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Christopher
Welcome back. It's another Bob and Tom extra. This is Christopher. Not only is the Bob and Tom show live every weekday morning, but every afternoon. We'll give you a little extra in case you missed anything. On today's big show, Greg Warren with the Warren Report. Today on the history of pies. It's coming up in just a minute.
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Singer/Storyteller
I was walking down the street, went to my local bar. But that door was locked. Inside the place was dark. There was a sign on the door, it said, lookie here. We had to shut down. We're out of beer. Everywhere I went, far near, it was the same sad story. We're out of beer. I'm talking no more Bud, no more Miller Light. No fat women getting lucky tonight.
Singer/Backup
Whatcha gonna do when the beer runs out? Whatcha gonna do when the beer runs out? Get me a gun. There is no doubt.
Singer/Storyteller
You might as well shoot me when the beer runs out. Everywhere I went found there just was not no more beer anywhere around. There was no more strolls, no more cores. They were putting churches in my liquor stores. So I went on down to my favorite bar. I knew I'd find at least some pbr. And then my favorite waitress said, lookie here, we gotta shut down. Down. We're out of beer.
Singer/Backup
Whatcha gonna do when the beer runs out? What you gonna do when the beer runs out? Get me a gun. There is no doubt you're gonna have.
Singer/Storyteller
To shoot me when the beer runs out. Now wait a minute, bartender. You telling me you got no Wiedeman? How about a fl? No Wisconsin Club? Black Label Hello. Kiss Mabel for A black label, Drew Ries Slits rolling rocker, golden go.
Singer/Backup
Mark.
Singer/Storyteller
Five old style Red, white and blue. At this rate I might wake up on Sunday morning and feel good Hell, I might wake up on Monday and still have cash. Nobody's gonna be better looking in clothing time. All of a sudden I wake up in my own Seems it was a dream made up in my head look at my watch, it's Sunday night Figured a beer will make me feel all right I open up my fridge oh, no, not here. The whole thing is real I'm out of beer.
Singer/Backup
What I gonna do when the beer runs out? What sh to do when the beer runs out?
Singer/Storyteller
Oh, yeah.
Singer/Backup
Get me a gun There is no doubt you're going to have.
Singer/Storyteller
To shoot me when the beer runs.
Singer/Backup
Out What y' all going to do when the beer runs out? What y' all going to do when the beer runs out? Get me a gun. There is no doubt you're going to.
Singer/Storyteller
Have to shoot Shoot me when the beer runs out.
Greg Warren
Here's some extra. This is Bob and Tom.
Bob Kevoian
Extra. Here's Tom with a special. No, it's Greg Warren.
Josh Arnold
It's not a special guest.
Tom Griswold
There we go.
Bob Kevoian
There he is.
Tom Griswold
Look at that handsome man. It's what we call the Warren Report.
Bob Kevoian
Is that Warren Cromartie?
Greg Warren
That is Warren Cromartie, Chick.
Bob Kevoian
One of my favorite ball players ever. I love his name.
Greg Warren
Did you. Did you know that he played? So he played and then he took eight years off from MLB and came back and. And a half a season and hit 316.
Josh Arnold
Yep.
Bob Kevoian
It was an amazing ball player. Played for the Expos and he was just the best. Warren Cromarty.
Tom Griswold
What did he do during his time off?
Greg Warren
He was in Japan playing, I think, most of that time.
Bob Kevoian
Oh, okay. And I think he was a gardener, actually. He raised peonies there.
Greg Warren
Is that right?
Bob Kevoian
Have I made you happy, Warren? Peony king.
Tom Griswold
Greg. Warren always has a photograph, or typically behind him, of someone also named Warren.
Bob Kevoian
Doesn't it look like he's. He's broadcasting this morning from a small cell.
Tom Griswold
It does look like you're gonna be winking in Morse code. I've been tortured like your Lloyd Booker.
Bob Kevoian
There it is.
Tom Griswold
Read your history, kids.
Greg Warren
Now, someone got mad at us.
Bob Kevoian
Well, that's because Lloyd Bucher and the Pueblo, and they're. Never mind. Greg, what's your topic today, buddy?
Greg Warren
Well, thanks for asking, Chick. I wanted to talk today about the history of pie.
Bob Kevoian
Oh, the number or the pastry?
Greg Warren
The pastry. Thank you.
Josh Arnold
It's my birthday.
Greg Warren
Yeah. Happy birthday, Josh.
Josh Arnold
Thank you, Greg. This is a topic near and dear to my heart.
Greg Warren
Yeah, it's probably started with the Egyptians, then the Greeks, then the Romans. The Romans were the first ones to put a cover on the pie, a top crust. And they had the first recorded recipe for pie. It was rye crusted goat cheese with honey.
Josh Arnold
Doesn't that sound like something?
Greg Warren
Now, back in the day, guys, pies were more. The crust was more of a Ziploc bag, if you will. They didn't eat the crust. It was made to preserve things like for the winter or for sea voyages, things like that. Yeah. So people didn't really eat the crust. And the crusts were. There was a lot more crust, often more crust than pie.
Josh Arnold
Greg, back then, didn't they eat a lot of rabbit or Hassen fever, if you will.
Greg Warren
Yes.
Josh Arnold
Widely known as hair pie.
Greg Warren
See what he did.
Bob Kevoian
Yeah, I know. I share your dismay.
Greg Warren
I mean, chick, chick. I work on these things.
Bob Kevoian
I know, I know. You get up, you want to.
Greg Warren
You want to contribute and research of trying to educate people out there. And this idiot, just because it's his birthday asking.
Josh Arnold
I thought it was a fair question.
Greg Warren
All right, so by. By definition, the Oxford English Dictionary, to be a pie, you do have to have a top crust. So most of what we eat in the US Is technically a tart. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Tom Griswold
You're reading a chart I have.
Singer/Backup
Why would you.
Greg Warren
I think you're. You're referring to the word tart that describes a woman. And I was curious about that, Tom. I looked it up. A tart is a woman that dresses or behaves in a way that is considered inappropriate. Often she is younger and more attractive than. Than the woman that feels she dresses or behaves in a way that is. Back in the day. I know Josh was leading to a horrible joke, but back in the day, it was mostly meat pies, often birds. And again, remember, they didn't eat the crust. These were just sort of preservatives or, you know, Tupperware. Often the. The legs of the birds hung out the sides and they used those legs for hand to carry the pie.
Josh Arnold
That's amazing.
Greg Warren
Yes, yes. Now get this. You know that nursery rhyme, 4 and 20 black birds baked in a pie. When the pie was opened, the birds begin to sing. Wasn't it a dainty dish to set before the king? That's real. Back in the day, the upper class entertained their guests by having a pie open and birds flying out, or frogs or turtles or rabbits. They put live animals in the pie. And that was a way to Sort of entertain the guests.
Bob Kevoian
No, no, that rabbit pie.
Greg Warren
Yeah.
Bob Kevoian
Josh, didn't you have something?
Greg Warren
He did.
Singer/Backup
No.
Greg Warren
Yeah, I did, Chick. Thanks for bringing that up.
Tom Griswold
I'm sorry. They put the birds. I get from the rhyme, but they put, like, rabbits and furry animals.
Greg Warren
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then. And then the pie would open and the rabbits would hop out and the guests would be delighted.
Tom Griswold
I bet they'd be a fur pie.
Greg Warren
Delighted. That would be a fur pie. You got your hair pie.
Tom Griswold
Your fur pie sometimes turned into a burger. The fur burger.
Josh Arnold
Now, in the late 20th century, I believe eagles were starting to be used. The bald pie became very popular.
Tom Griswold
Made a big comeback recently.
Josh Arnold
That's a shaven vagina.
Greg Warren
Yeah. Well, thank you for painting the picture.
Josh Arnold
Greg looked confused.
Greg Warren
Oh, okay.
Tom Griswold
Sort of ashamed, I think is the word you're looking for.
Bob Kevoian
I'm sorry.
Greg Warren
I. I knew where this was going a long time ago.
Josh Arnold
Oh, yeah.
Greg Warren
I brought this on myself. If you thought. If you thought the birds and the rabbits flying out of the pie was disturbing. Charles the first. Charles the first.
Josh Arnold
Chucky one.
Greg Warren
Chucky won Charlemagne. He put. He put a young boy with dwarfism in a pie. Oh, my God. Yes.
Bob Kevoian
They put Dinklage in a pie. Yes.
Greg Warren
He was 7 years old at the time. She was 18 inches. And he dressed him up in armor, and he got out and recited poetry and marched around to entertain the guests. This kid eventually became, like, a pretty famous King's Court entertainer. Really.
Bob Kevoian
I was going to say. Now, that is a hell of an act.
Greg Warren
Yeah, that's an act.
Bob Kevoian
That's an act.
Josh Arnold
They made a guy.
Greg Warren
You're one of these. You're one of these Hollywood childhood store stars. This kid doesn't want to hear you whining about your, you know, your lost childhood.
Josh Arnold
Oh.
Greg Warren
Oh, really, Corey Feldman, you had to work late hours. Let me ask you this. Did they happen to bake you? Did they put you in a pastry? Yeah, and it gets crazy. Now.
Josh Arnold
This.
Greg Warren
And I. I read this in a couple of places, so I guess it happened at one point. There were 28 musicians in a pod. Oh, my. 28 music. That's. That's like half of earth, wind and fire. Yeah.
Josh Arnold
There aren't that many musicians in humble pie.
Bob Kevoian
That's either a really big pie or really small. Musicians.
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Greg Warren
Yeah. It could be another. Yeah, could be that. Yeah.
Josh Arnold
And their instruments.
Greg Warren
And their instruments, I believe.
Tom Griswold
What kind of oven did they have that they could bake a pie that big?
Singer/Storyteller
I don't know.
Greg Warren
I don't. I don't know. It's pretty impressive, I think. I wonder if there's one guy, you know, at the party that didn't get what was going. I was like, hey, we still get to eat the dwarf, though, right? No, man, it's just. It's just musicians.
Josh Arnold
We're just letting it go to waste.
Greg Warren
No, man, it's not for eating. It's. Yeah, yeah, that was the thing, man. I guess you just. This pie came out. You didn't know what was going to be in it, man. I swear, I can tell by that pie. That's going to be REO Speedwagon, man.
Josh Arnold
Greg, you think this was the beginning of the woman jumping out of a cake?
Greg Warren
No, that was the beginning of. That was the movie with Under Siege with Steven Seagal and Eric Oleniak.
Bob Kevoian
I think we all remember that.
Greg Warren
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, chick in that movie, you know, she did. They hired her as a stripper, jump out of that cake. She wound up helping Seagal take over that submarine.
Bob Kevoian
Damn right she did.
Greg Warren
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She was kind of part of it. Just a.
Bob Kevoian
Nothing more than a cook.
Tom Griswold
So when did. When did PI become what we know as a pie?
Greg Warren
Which. Well, 1500s were the first times. Was the first time there was a fruit piece. And then 1621, of course, was the first Thanksgiving. And we were all lied to in grade school. There was no pumpkin pie at that affair.
Bob Kevoian
Yeah, because pumpkin is hideous and there.
Josh Arnold
Shouldn'T be a pumpkin.
Tom Griswold
I love pumpkin pies. You shut up, Tom.
Greg Warren
I can bake a good pumpkin pie. I'll make you one.
Bob Kevoian
I can't wait for this Thanksgiving. Just for that.
Greg Warren
Yeah, you know, there's. There's. Now. This is a comedy show, and allegedly, occasionally, sometimes.
Tom Griswold
We'll get back to that about 10 minutes.
Bob Kevoian
We'll get back to that in about 10 minutes. You're doing great, buddy.
Josh Arnold
You had that thing about the ship goes down.
Greg Warren
I had very little to do with it. So.
Singer/Storyteller
What.
Josh Arnold
What pie was that?
Bob Kevoian
Thanksgiving pumpkin.
Greg Warren
I was. No, he just said pies.
Tom Griswold
Oh, meat pie.
Greg Warren
Okay. Meat pies. Yeah. You know, there was no pumpkin back then. Now, the first movie with a pie in the face. Josh, what was it?
Josh Arnold
Oh, my gosh, I don't know. What was it?
Greg Warren
Well, there's some. A little bit of controversy. 1909, Ben Turpin starred in Mr. Flip. There's no copy of that movie, so people argue whether it happened or not. But definitely 1913, a Mac Senate production. A noise from the deep. Mabel Norman threw a pie in Fatty Arbuckle's face.
Bob Kevoian
Wow.
Greg Warren
Yeah, that was the first time. Now, the biggest pie movie. Tom, do you know this?
Bob Kevoian
The Great Race, right?
Greg Warren
American Pie. No, Great Race. Had a lot of Pies, but 1927, Battle of the century. That there were. It was a Laurel and Hardy film. 4000 pies were thrown at each other in that. Yeah. And. And then the. The Stooges had 1941 in the Sweet Pie and Pie.
Josh Arnold
Oh, sure.
Bob Kevoian
Oh, man, those guys could really write comedy, couldn't they?
Greg Warren
Yeah. Yeah, they could.
Bob Kevoian
Let's throw a pie. Let's throw a pie at him or hit him in the face with a hammer. Man, oh, man.
Josh Arnold
A lot of. A lot of fun word play in those.
Bob Kevoian
Funny. Funny stuff. Well, yeah, Sweet pie and pie. I just heard.
Greg Warren
So. The. The first cherry pie. Elizabeth. Elizabeth, the first.
Josh Arnold
Actually, as a joke.
Bob Kevoian
Here you go, you old horn dog.
Tom Griswold
Yeah, they use. They use maraschino cherries.
Greg Warren
It didn't taste real good. I tried to get. I could not get a read on what the rankings of the pies are. It just wasn't out there. There's a lot of. I don't know, a lot of competing ideas, but from what I can tell, apple is the number one piece. Yeah. Then pumpkin, and then it gets a little hazy after that. Some say chocolate followed by lemon meringue followed by cherry.
Josh Arnold
Greg, where do you fall on the Boston cream pie debate? More of a cake.
Greg Warren
There's this. It's not. No, it's. It's not a debate. It's a cake. Yeah, well, it's not. It's not a pie.
Josh Arnold
They say pie, don't they?
Singer/Storyteller
Wonder why they call it a pie?
Greg Warren
Josh, the Internet says it's a cake. Okay. Yeah.
Tom Griswold
Okay. Your favorite.
Dan Bongino
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Tom Griswold
What is your favorite pie, Mr. Greg Warren?
Greg Warren
Well, to bake, I would say probably a sweet potato pie.
Josh Arnold
All right, now, how about to eat?
Greg Warren
Nancy, I didn't know you were such a baker. Yeah, you know, I know I can bake. Can you bake?
Josh Arnold
Old Grandma Warren around here?
Greg Warren
You're trying to make fun of me and I don't care.
Tom Griswold
When Grandma Warren makes you a delicious cake, Josh, you're not gonna turn it down?
Josh Arnold
Well, Grandma Warren hasn't made me anything.
Bob Kevoian
You care a little bit.
Greg Warren
I don't care. I don't care, Chick. I'm a good baker. I know to eat. Josh. I'd say probably a French silk pie. Oh, that's a fine choice, that is.
Tom Griswold
Chick.
Bob Kevoian
Biggie, your favorite pie, Pecan pie. Begins and ends with pecan.
Josh Arnold
Josh, favorite pie. Apple.
Greg Warren
Dumb.
Bob Kevoian
Real dumb.
Greg Warren
Yeah, stupid. You Know what a shoo fly pie is, guys? Yeah, we talked about that.
Josh Arnold
We have talked about it.
Greg Warren
It's a, it's a wet bottom pie.
Tom Griswold
Dredge up that audio turd.
Greg Warren
And then that's the second Queen song he's had a problem with in the last.
Bob Kevoian
You should. You weren't, you weren't here for the major lance hour.
Tom Griswold
Okay. Much better artist than the Queen.
Greg Warren
Yeah. Shoo fly pie is. It's a molasses wet bottom pie and they baked it. They, they would put it out in an area to attract the flies to get them out of the kitchen.
Josh Arnold
Wasn't molasses wet bottom one of the finest blues musicians of the 1920s.
Greg Warren
Oh, he's good. Real good. Tenor sax. Todd Berg, everything you knew.
Tom Griswold
Every year for Christmas, I get everybody pies from our pie lady.
Bob Kevoian
Yeah, we hear and, oh, this. I think this. You're setting a record. May is the earliest. This is absolutely, absolutely the earliest. You've held it over our head.
Tom Griswold
I have to survey yes, everybody.
Bob Kevoian
Like you.
Singer/Storyteller
Don't do it.
Josh Arnold
You have people a major survey. He sends out one email saying what he doesn't send.
Greg Warren
Amy sends it out.
Bob Kevoian
Yeah. And if she doesn't send it out, there's hell to pay.
Josh Arnold
Oh, yeah.
Tom Griswold
Oh, yeah.
Greg Warren
That peanut butter pie is my favorite place.
Bob Kevoian
That's.
Tom Griswold
That's where I'm going with this. That peanut butter pie that she makes is the best.
Bob Kevoian
Does it have a roof? I don't think it has a roof.
Greg Warren
No roof on it. That's a tart. It's a tart.
Bob Kevoian
It's a peanut butter tart. So every Christmas you do tarts.
Greg Warren
Chase the tart lady. You know what I found out during quarantine? I was making pie filling. You don't even need to put it in a pie. You can just put it in a jar and eat pie filling with the.
Bob Kevoian
Soup right now at home. Absolutely.
Josh Arnold
What you got there is jelly.
Tom Griswold
Now, do you.
Bob Kevoian
I believe I'm gonna make a message. A message.
Tom Griswold
Do you get pie when you go out to eat, Greg?
Greg Warren
Rarely. Rarely. I did. I did eat a whole pie at Perkins one time.
Josh Arnold
What? Oh, good.
Bob Kevoian
Tell us about it. Don't leave out anything. What flavor was it?
Greg Warren
It was a French silk pie. It was after a show at Go Bananas back about, I don't know, 25 years ago. And I had just met the comedian Eddie Ifttt, very funny guy. We did a show together and it was about one in the morning. I think I could eat a whole pie tonight. And he's like, no, you can't. And I ate an entire French silk pie.
Tom Griswold
Ift I'm not mistaken, your bowels bound up a little bit.
Greg Warren
Did they? Yeah, man. There was about a 10 year period after wrestling that I rebelled against all the weight cutting that I was gonna say.
Tom Griswold
Man, that's.
Greg Warren
Yeah. Yes. It wasn't good, but man, it was fun.
Tom Griswold
Now, if I'm looking at the schedule correctly here, it looks like you're gonna be at the loony bin in Little Rock. Coming up Wednesday, June 1st, through Saturday, June 4th.
Josh Arnold
All right.
Greg Warren
Yeah. Tom, you don't care for some of these names, right?
Tom Griswold
I think naming a business after a men illness is hilarious.
Bob Kevoian
What about bipolars? Does that open up any?
Tom Griswold
We're schizos.
Christopher
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Date: January 22, 2026
Featuring: Greg Warren, Tom Griswold, Bob Kevoian, Josh Arnold, Chick McGee
This episode of The BOB & TOM Show’s “B&T Extra” segment features comedian Greg Warren with another installment of "The Warren Report." The focus is the unexpectedly rich, humorous, and sometimes bizarre history of pies—from ancient Egyptian beginnings and medieval meat pies to pop culture pie-throwing and unsettling Royal banquet practices. The segment is loaded with jokes, wordplay, personal anecdotes, and plenty of off-beat historical facts, all seasoned with The BOB & TOM Show’s signature humor.
Bob Kevoian [06:16]: “I think he was a gardener, actually. He raised peonies there.” Greg Warren [06:22]: “Have I made you happy, Warren? Peony king.”
Greg Warren [07:15]: “The Romans were the first ones to put a cover on the pie, a top crust. And they had the first recorded recipe for pie. It was rye-crusted goat cheese with honey.” Greg Warren [08:36]: “By definition, the Oxford English Dictionary, to be a pie, you do have to have a top crust. So most of what we eat in the US is technically a tart.”
Greg Warren [09:54]: “The upper class entertained their guests by having a pie open and birds flying out, or frogs or turtles or rabbits... That was a way to entertain the guests.” Greg Warren [11:35]: “Charles the First... put a young boy with dwarfism in a pie... dressed him up in armor, and he got out and recited poetry and marched around.”
Greg Warren [14:30]: “1500s were the first times there was a fruit pie. And then 1621, of course, was the first Thanksgiving. And we were all lied to in grade school. There was no pumpkin pie at that affair.” Tom Griswold [14:48]: “I love pumpkin pies. You shut up, Tom.”
Greg Warren [16:09]: “1927, Battle of the Century... a Laurel and Hardy film. 4000 pies were thrown at each other in that.” Bob Kevoian [16:32]: “Oh man, those guys could really write comedy, couldn’t they?”
Greg Warren [17:06]: “Apple is the number one pie. Then pumpkin, and then it gets a little hazy after that.” Greg Warren [17:34]: “It’s not a debate. It’s a cake. Yeah, well, it’s not... not a pie.”
Greg Warren [17:52]: “Well, to bake, I would say probably a sweet potato pie.”
Greg Warren [18:22]: “To eat, Josh, I’d say probably a French silk pie. Oh, that’s a fine choice, that is.” Bob Kevoian [18:32]: “Pecan pie. Begins and ends with pecan.”
Greg Warren [19:12]: “Shoo fly pie is... a molasses wet bottom pie and they baked it. They would put it out in an area to attract the flies to get them out of the kitchen.”
Greg Warren [20:55]: “It was a French silk pie… and I ate an entire French silk pie.” Greg Warren [21:18]: “There was about a 10-year period after wrestling that I rebelled against all the weight cutting... Yes. It wasn’t good, but man, it was fun.”
On early pies:
“The crust was more of a Ziploc bag; they didn’t eat the crust. It was made to preserve things for the winter or for sea voyages.” — Greg Warren [07:36]
On elaborate feasts:
“They put live animals in the pie. And that was a way to sort of entertain the guests.” — Greg Warren [09:54]
On Charles I’s unique ‘entertainment’:
“He put a young boy with dwarfism in a pie…he got out and recited poetry and marched around to entertain the guests.” — Greg Warren [11:47]
On Boston cream pie:
“It’s not a debate. It’s a cake…The Internet says it’s a cake.” — Greg Warren [17:34]
On devouring a whole pie:
“I think I could eat a whole pie tonight. And he’s like, no, you can’t. And I ate an entire French silk pie.” — Greg Warren [20:55]
The segment is a lively, irreverent, and joke-heavy riff on the history of pies. Greg Warren’s meticulous (if weird) research gets continually sidetracked by the cast’s wordplay, pop culture references, and self-deprecating humor. Even the most educational moments are played for maximum comedic effect, fitting with the show’s legacy of blending trivia and goofiness.
For a fun, chaotic exploration of why, how, and what we call a “pie,” plus about as many jokes about “tarts” as you’ll hear in one broadcast, this episode is a treat—if you don’t mind your history raucously offbeat.