25W: Bobby Hurt Himself While Preparing for MLB All-Star Weekend + Least Attractive Hobbies for Men + Why Bobby Thinks LeBron is the GOAT Over MJ

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Podcast Summary: The Bobby Bones Show Episode Title: 25W: Bobby Hurt Himself While Preparing for MLB All-Star Weekend + Least Attractive Hobbies for Men + Why Bobby Thinks LeBron is the GOAT Over MJ Release Date: July 1, 2025

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1. Bobby's Preparation for MLB All-Star Weekend

Bobby's Batting Cage Experience ([02:07] - [05:00]): In this segment, Bobby shares his recent experience at the batting cages as he gears up for the upcoming MLB All-Star Weekend in Atlanta. He humorously recounts how he injured his neck while practicing with a friend:

"I'm a little bit sore. I'm here. But I'm going to try not to embarrass myself coming up" ([04:30]).

Bobby emphasizes the significance of this event for him, noting his participation in hitting baseballs after a decade-long hiatus:

"I've never hit baseballs in many years... I'm just trying to get to a place where I don't embarrass myself" ([02:45]).

He reminisces about his past involvement in recreational softball and the MLB celebrity softball game, where he was honored as MVP:

"I played in the MLB celebrity softball game last year and that was fun. Heck, I was MVP. That was awesome" ([04:15]).

Injury and Recovery Concerns ([05:00] - [07:00]): Bobby discusses the physical toll of his preparation, mentioning soreness in his neck and back from intense practice sessions:

"Left side of my neck is killing me. My back's a little tweaked" ([03:50]).

Despite the discomfort, he remains optimistic and focused on performing well during the All-Star Weekend.

2. Least Attractive Hobbies for Men

Introduction to the Topic ([08:00] - [08:30]): Transitioning from sports, Bobby introduces a segment on the "Least Attractive Hobbies for Men," reflecting on personal preferences and societal perceptions. He humorously alludes to his own hobby of spending time in batting cages:

"Probably at a purpose, though, right? But here we go" ([07:15]).

Top Least Attractive Hobbies:

1. Comic Books ([09:00] - [12:00]): Bobby lists comic books as the least attractive hobby, citing their stereotypical association with nerdiness:

   "Women think comic books are really nerdy. It's number one at 33% here on the list" ([09:45]).

   He acknowledges the value in collecting and saving rare comics but maintains his stance on their unappealing image.

2. Cosplay ([12:30] - [15:00]): Moving to cosplay, Bobby shares a humorous anecdote about costume swaps at cosplay fairs:

   "I've seen them do this on a few. So it's not like I came across this one time" ([13:10]).

   While he doesn't personally partake, he respects others' enthusiasm for the hobby.

3. Debating ([15:30] - [20:00]): Debating is highlighted as another unattractive hobby, with Bobby questioning its appeal beyond being argumentative:

   "Debating as a hobby, I don't know debating as a hobby, I don't know anyone that does that" ([16:00]).

   He shares personal experiences from his quiz bowl days, reflecting on the stereotypical nerd image.

4. Drinking ([20:30] - [23:00]): Despite abstaining, Bobby mentions drinking as the fourth least attractive hobby, recognizing its social allure:

   "I don't drink at all, but it does seem fun" ([21:15]).

5. Magic: The Gathering (MTG) ([23:30] - [27:00]): Bobby humorously admits his lack of knowledge about MTG, only discovering it postulatedly when reviewing the list:

   "What is MTG as a hobby? Confused as what that means" ([25:00]).

6. Anime ([27:30] - [31:00]): Ranking anime sixth, Bobby acknowledges its global popularity but remains personally indifferent:

   "Dragon Ball is the only anime that I can think of. I'm sure there's more" ([29:15]).

7. Makeup ([31:30] - [33:00]): Bobby is puzzled by makeup as a hobby, questioning its categorization unless it's performance-related.

8. Cryptocurrency ([33:30] - [37:00]): He touches on crypto, sharing his limited experience and skepticism:

   "I've made some money off crypto, except I've never cashed it out" ([36:00]).

9. Cigars ([37:30] - [39:00]): Discussing cigar enthusiasts, Bobby expresses his distaste for smoking:

   "Smoking anything just seems gross to me" ([38:00]).

10. Clubbing ([39:30] - [42:00]): Bobby critiques clubbing, especially for older demographics, associating it with dwindling "coolness":

    "If you're over like 26 and you're still going to the club, there's a mark" ([40:30]).

11. Weed ([42:30] - [44:00]): Acknowledging that weed can be a significant part of some men's identities, Bobby places it on the list due to perceived overemphasis.

12. Funko Pop Collecting ([44:30] - [46:00]): Bobby references Funko Pop collecting, sharing his own minimal involvement and questioning its community:

    "I have a Dan Marino funko pop. But is that a culture?" ([45:00]).

13. Pornography ([46:30] - [49:00]): Listing porn as a least attractive hobby, Bobby speculates that its private nature keeps it low on the list:

    "Most dudes who are into it don't share. They're into it" ([48:00]).

14. Gambling ([49:30] - [54:00]): Reflecting on his own history with gambling and poker, Bobby discusses its placement due to potential secrecy and addiction risks:

    "I have a fun relationship with gambling that I don't bet anything that I know I can't lose" ([52:00]).

15. Manosphere ([54:30] - [56:00]): Finally, Bobby delves into the manosphere, examining its toxic elements and questioning its categorization as a hobby:

    "A lot of conspiracy theories too... It's just dudes trying to be more dude" ([55:45]).

3. Why Bobby Thinks LeBron is the GOAT Over Michael Jordan

NBA All-Time Great Debate ([57:00] - [59:00]): In a poll segment, Bobby addresses why he considers LeBron James the greatest NBA player of all time, surpassing Michael Jordan. He emphasizes LeBron's longevity and versatility:

"LeBron's like 83 now. I was 40. But he has played for so long at such a high level" ([58:37]).

Bobby also points out LeBron's ability to play multiple positions and his continued high-level performance into his 40s:

"He can play point... and he is so large. He's Magic size, but more versatile than Magic was" ([59:05]).

Comparing career achievements and adaptability, Bobby concludes that LeBron's extended dominance in the league gives him the edge over Jordan's legendary status.

4. Additional Polls and Discussions

NFL and MLB Insights ([59:30] - [62:00]): Bobby extends the debate to other sports, discussing the greatest NFL quarterback—favoring Tom Brady—and the most exciting World Series he’s watched, highlighting the 2016 Chicago Cubs victory:

"I'm a Cubs fan my whole life... When the rain delay hit and then the Cubs won. It was awesome" ([61:45]).

He reflects on his deep-rooted fandom and the emotional significance of the Cubs' historic win in 2016.

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Conclusion

In this episode of The Bobby Bones Show, Bobby intertwines his passion for sports with personal anecdotes and candid opinions on societal perceptions of men's hobbies. From preparing for a major sporting event and enduring physical setbacks to engaging in cultural critiques and championing LeBron James as the greatest basketball player, Bobby offers listeners an engaging mix of humor, introspection, and spirited discussions. His authentic reflections not only entertain but also invite listeners to contemplate their own views on similar topics.

Notable Quotes:

• On Preparing for All-Star Weekend:
  "I'm a little bit sore. I'm here. But I'm going to try not to embarrass myself coming up." ([04:30])

• On Comic Books Being Unattractive:
  "Women think comic books are really nerdy. It's number one at 33% here on the list." ([09:45])

• On LeBron as the GOAT:
  "LeBron's like 83 now. I was 40. But he has played for so long at such a high level." ([58:37])

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This is a podcast called 25 Whistles. Talking sports. And they all wear a whistle. Yeah, it's stupid, but what did you expect? It's a podcast called 25 Whistles. 25 Whistles. Hey guys. Me solo. My neck hurts on my left side especially. I was at the batting cages yesterday and hitting baseballs too, by the way, which I haven't hit baseballs in many years. And so I go with a buddy of mine and we get there and there's like 2510 year olds that showed up five minutes before us. And so they have completely taken over the cages with the pitching machines and rightfully so. The batting cages aren't really for adult men. Whatever. There are some softball guys out there sometimes, but mostly, yeah, it's kids who are playing baseball. And so we get there. So we decided we're going to get in one of these rooms, one of these areas where you can actually throw batting practice. And so it's him and I, we borrowed a bat and we got a bucket of balls and so we're throwing and swinging two things our bodies don't normally do. And so yeah, left side of my neck is killing me. My back's a little tweaked but. And I'll say it now, maybe I won't be so specific, but the All Star weekend is in Atlanta. Not this weekend, but next weekend. And I will be participating in something where I have to hit baseball as far. So that is what I'm practicing for. And I guess more than practicing, I'm just trying to get to a place where I don't get there and embarrass myself. So it's kind of the goal. But we did that yesterday. I'm a little bit sore. And again, I played rec softball last year. I played in the MLB celebrity softball game last year and that was fun. Heck, I was mvp. That was awesome. Really, really fun night. But I haven't hit a baseball 10 years. Like a fast pitch baseball. So finally after we threw a bunch of batting practice to each other, we got into a machine because I guess the kids left and we put it on 60 miles an hour and and just swung away. Regardless, I'm sore as crap. I'm here. But I'm going to try not to embarrass myself coming up. And I can give you more details soon, I'm sure. I don't even think I'm supposed to say that, but it's in like a week and a half, so I really don't think they care what I say. But it will be in Atlanta, if anybody's listening to this in Atlanta. And it's going to be that weekend, it's actually going to be this Sunday. I can tell you that. Of All Star Weekend. And you want to come out, would love to see you, would love to meet you, that type of thing. So yeah, that's where we are as of right now. I Also was looking at this least attractive hobbies for men to have. And I think the reason that it popped up in my feed is because I was probably doing a very unattractive hobby for an adult man, which was I was in a batting cage when there were kids all around. So probably at a purpose, though, right? But here we go. The top 15 least attractive hobbies to women that men do. Number one is comic books. And I don't have any comic books. I have friends that have comic books. And I don't want to be terribly judgmental about any of these because I'm sure I have some of these. I read, like five or six, and I stopped and thought I would just read them as I did this segment and reacted them. But women think comic books are really nerdy. It's number one at 33% here on the list. Think about comic books is much like baseball cards. And that may pop up later. There's some real value. If you get a good one, you get an old one, you save. Like, there's some value in that. But also, it's like comic books are hurting anybody. And also nerds. I'll say that because I think I am a nerd. Also, nerds end up being everybody's bosses in school. Oh, you're a nerd. Oh, you're a dork. You're by yourself. You're reading your books. Yeah, they end up being everybody's bosses. But I hear you. Comic books, number one. And number two, cosplay. Now, I watched a TikTok video, I think it was last night, where there's this creator, and he goes to these, I'll call them cosplay fairs, where all these people are dressed up like video game characters. And I've seen them do this on a few. So it's not like I came across this one time, but there was a dude dressed up like Wreck It Ralph from the cartoon. And he goes and he has this huge tent, and he's with this dude who's dressed up like Wreck It Ralph. And the guy's fooling in character, and he says, wreck It Ralph, will you switch your costumes with whatever's in the tent? And the guy's like, I don't know. I've been Wreck It Ralph for, like, the past 12 years. Do I want to switch? And the guy's like, it's up to you, but once you switch, you don't get your other costume back. And so the guy's like, okay, let's do it. It's kind of a fun video because the guy goes in the tent and I don't even know who he came out as. It was like some dog and he had a spot over his eye and he was in, it looked like a Ghostbusters uniform. I didn't know the cartoon, but I thought the content was really fun. And you know, I'm not going to hate on anybody going to any cosplay stuff because if I wear a jersey to a game, like a little bit that's cosplay, just like a tiny fraction. Number three, debating. Yeah. I don't know a single person who would say their hobby is debating. I know people who are challenging and argumentative. I think I'm one of them and I kind of do it on the air. But debating as a hobby, I don't know debating as a hobby, I don't know anyone that does that. And number three, I did see last night my wife and I went to dinner and we were driving by the sign that said trivia every Thursday night at Corky's at like 7:30pm and Corky's is a barbecue chain. And I told my wife, I was like, I'll go if you'll go. And I'd probably go anyway. But she was like, no, thank you. No thank you. I don't want to do trivia night. So I don't know if trivia pops up on this, but trivia night and debating, I'm going to put those in the same kind of category. I love trivia. And not to super flex on Everybody, but in seventh grade, I was the captain of the 12th grade quiz bowl team. That's right. And again, I know trivia and debating are not the same thing, but I think for this they kind of are. I think they fit in that same category. At least I'm gonna put them in that category. But it was like the one thing in my life that I was good at where I naturally would just show up. And people knew that guy was good at that because I was a seventh grader. I was 12 years old competing against 17 year olds. And when I was in seventh grade, it wasn't like I was dominating 17 year olds, but I can mix it up. I was like A rookie batting about 265 his rookie year. 265, 270. Hit about 24 home runs. Enough to where you go, man, respect and bright future. And boy, was it a bright future. I was awesome at Quiz bowl, but that's the only thing in my life really that I've been able to do and do so well that My reputation preceded me, and I would show up to Quiz bowl tournaments and people would be like, oh, that's the kid. That's pretty cool. Thinking back. Yeah, that's nerdy too, though. Next up is drinking. Fourth on the list, 29%. I don't drink at all, but it does seem fun. And I've said this many times that it sure does seem fun, that all my friends can just relax and have a drink now. I'm not saying that. And then I'm gonna start drinking tomorrow. I don't think at this point I'll ever drink. Mostly because now it's like I got a really long streak of never having a drink, but drinking at number four as part of a hobby. Number five, mtg. Now, this is where I stopped reading the list because I wanted to do it live and get my reaction. I don't know what MTG is, so I'm going to type it into Google. What is MTG as a hobby? Confused as what that means. Here we go. MTG stands for Magic the Gathering. Got it. Which is the collectible trading card game. As a hobby, it can mean a few different things depending on how someone is into it. It's a strategy card game where players build decks and battle each other using spells, creatures, and magical abilities. It was created in 1993. It was the first ever trading card game and is still wildly popular. It has fantasy themes. Think wizards, dragons, and elves. Ah, mtg. Magic the Gathering. Some rare magic cards are worth thousands of dollars. One Black Lotus card, the holy grail of MTG, sold for over $500,000. That's keeping people out of trouble. I got no problem with it. Nerdy. Yeah. But again, I'm pro nerd. So when I say something's nerdy, that's okay. I'm pro nerd. But yeah, nerdy as crap. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. We're at number six on the list where 27% of women say this is the least attractive. It's anime. There are certain things that I realize are probably really good. I've just never gotten into them because I don't have the interest. But. But I also respect the fact that they're probably really good. Based on its worldwide popularity, I'd like to walk through some of them. Soccer. Everybody loves soccer. That has had soccer exposure from an early age. It is the biggest sport in the world, right? Not for me. Didn't play it growing up. I grew up in rural Arkansas. We didn't have soccer. We didn't have a soccer team. We had a football team, we had a basketball team, we had a baseball team, but we did not have our home baseball field. We had to go play our home games at a school called Jesseville's Field, and they made fun of us for it because we were too poor to have our own field. But we did have those three sports. We did have a track team, except we did not have a track. And mostly it was off season football. And Coach Gandalf made us run track. And if we didn't run on the track team, we did play baseball. We did have to do district because baseball is usually over by district, but we didn't have track team, so we didn't have soccer for sure. But I do understand that soccer is amazing, even though to me it is not amazing. Another one of those. The Sopranos. Never seen an episode. I know how it ends, but I've never seen an episode. But you know what? It's probably awesome. If you start from the beginning and watch it, I'm sure that back then and probably even today, it is awesome. So many people love it that I trust and swear by it. The same thing with the Godfather. Similar vibe, right? That it's probably awesome and I just don't understand it. And I'm gonna put anime in that category. Wildly popular. I'd put it in the category with comic books, cosplay. Mostly these women are finding nerds unattractive, which kind of sucks because I'll say it again, nerds end up being the boss. But anime comes in at number six on the list. Dragon Ball is the only anime that I can think of. I'm sure there's more. Is Power Rangers Anime? No, that's not. That's humans. Is there a Power Rangers anime? Again, If I go to Google and I say, what are the most popular anime series of all time? Let's learn something together here. Here we go. Dragon Ball. Dragon Ball Z at number one. They say that's the gateway anime for millions. I'm going to say this wrong, guys. So if you're an anime freak, respect. But to. Sorry, Naruto. It's the Coming of Age Ninja Saga Number three, One Piece. It's a pirate adventure. Still going strong with over 1000 episodes. Oh, Pokemon was the one. That's the one that I probably should have known. Yeah, I know what that is. And then number five, Attack on Titan. So those are the biggest anime of all time. Or animes or anime show. However you say that. Number seven, makeup. I don't know what that means. As a hobby, how would makeup be A hobby unless you were dressing like a woman. But that's is. I don't know if that's a hobby. I don't know. I want to get that one. Next up is crypto. Totally understand how women could be annoyed with crypto Bros. By the way, I don't know anybody that's made any real money off crypto. Like I've made some money off crypto, except I've never cashed it out. And the only reason I made money off crypto was six years ago I put a couple thousand dollars in because it was the thing and I forgot about it and I put it in an account and I just forgot. And then I opened it up a year and a half or so ago and it had times six or seven. But if I had been involved in it the whole time, I would have sold it at some point. So I know nothing about crypto except what I've learned in the past few years. And I've been very fortunate that I bought it and forgot it. Next up is cigars. Guys that are obsessed with cigars. Smoking anything just seems gross to me. And no judgment on the moral part of smoking anything. I really have. I don't care what you do in your own time, as long as you're not hurting animals or kids and you're generally nice to other people. All good. Just smoking stuff. Gross. And with a cigar. I could be wrong here. I've never smoked a cigar. I've never smoked a cigarette. I've never smoked anything. But you don't like inhale it, right? Don't you just go? Isn't that what it is? My cigar culture is very weak. Alright, next up, clubbing. So what I'd say to this is, I think it's number 11. I think if you're over like 26 and you're still going to the club, there's a mark of like 24. Anything past that, you start to go back down the mountain of coolness. But I think going to the club's cool. 20. Some clubs can't get until 21, probably most. But 21, 22, 23, 24 still cool. 25 is fine, but I'm saying it then stops going climbing up the mountain to that yodel is coming back down the other side of the mountain. So I would say clubbing at 25 starts to get less cool. 26 more so less 27. If you're like 33 and you're in the club, I get why women are not attracted to that. Weed is next. And I think that's probably if that is your identity. There are people that we know that make weed a massive part of their identity. That's what they're known for. So I would say weed, funko makes the list. I don't know what that is. I have Funko pops. I have a few of them. I have six behind me right now. Three signed by Chris Stapleton, three signed by Dolly Parton. They were both very nice to sign them because I used them to auction off or give as part of any sort of charity initiative that I do. Not any, but some. But I bought them on ebay. The Chris Stapleton or the Dolly Parton. And then I just went to them and were like, hey, will you sign this? And blindly they were like, yeah, sure. So I get the funkos. I have a Dan Marino funko pop. But is that a culture? Is funko a culture? If so, I don't know anyone in funko culture. I just know people who have the occasional funko pop. I've actually got a couple of myself too. There are four left arguing online at 12.3%. My assumption is that means people that are weirdos and freakos on Reddit and just get on and troll people. Porn. Yeah. The thing about porn as a least attractive hobby is most dudes who are into it don't share. They're into it. Which I think is why it's not higher on the list. I think it'd be number one if more dudes are like, yeah, I'm gonna be honest, this is how much I'm into it. But because most dudes are kind of ashamed of it, it's way down the list. Gambling. And I'm not sure what number we're on. Let's see. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14. And number 15. It's gambling. And again, I think this is one too, that for the most part, people who gamble a lot don't often share how much they actually gamble. I feel like I have a very healthy relationship with it. You know, one of the major sponsors over the past couple years of 25 whistles has been DraftKings, and I have been. I know that if I get too wrapped up in it, I will become completely consumed with it, just like anything else. Not even that it's just gambling, but I feel like I have a fun relationship with gambling that I don't bet anything that I know I can't lose. That doesn't mean I like losing. It also doesn't mean I'm like, well, I said how fun was that? Yeah, you still get pissed, but it never ruins my day. And I think at a time, I can tell you, back in the day, for me, 2003 to 2008, I played so much poker, like hold em and this is right in the boom as well. I was reading books. I was so consumed with poker. Now poker can be anything else that I often get myself into. I was so consumed with poker that if I wasn't reading a book on how to figure out the pot odds, or if I wasn't reading a book on watching tells on other players you're playing against, I was reading books on the biography of Doyle Brunson. You know, so I was really obsessed. And I was living in Austin, Texas at the time, and there were these home games. And so you would go and at the front door you would buy your chips, they'd give you your chips. And it was mostly tournament play. They weren't cash games. I rarely played in any cash games. I like tournament play because everybody started off equal and once you were out, you were out. It wasn't just somebody could show up with a bunch of money and either lose a bunch of money or if you play with in cash games, why I don't like them for the most part is people with more cash can just bully other people. And if you're a good enough player, that doesn't matter. But I wasn't a good enough player. I was a pretty good player. I wasn't a good enough player. So I like tournament play. Everybody was equal. There'd be 24 people, 18 people. We'd go in, we'd give them 250 bucks or something, and then we'd play our tournament. They'd give you a little deal. And sometimes down in the basement, sometimes you're playing like in a really wasn't. There weren't many basements in Texas in different parts of the house. But you'd be playing in different rooms. And so there were a couple instances where we were playing in a basement or like a shed area, but people would be in all these different rooms. And I probably played nine to 12 of those. Go to somebody's house, you never know the person. It's always you're in this small group. So word got around, you know, next Tuesday we're going to be at this house. The next Wednesday after that we'll be at this house. And it was almost never, I think only once or twice did ever play at the same house twice because people didn't want to get busted for doing it. And why it was illegal is because the house took a cut. Just like Vegas, the house took a cut and that's what made it illegal. You can play poker with your buddies and gamble if the house isn't taking a cut. So we play. And I played a bunch. And I probably broke even maybe what came ahead a little bit. I didn't keep a spreadsheet really, but I remember there was a game I was going to one night, I ended up not going and that game got robbed and they made everybody take off all their clothes. So I think everybody's butt naked and they robbed the place. Nobody got shot. But that's when I was like, I'm not doing house games anymore. So I started flying to Las Vegas and that was Lunchbox and I on a Southwest flight about two times a month. And we'd finish the show on a Friday morning and we'd fly to Vegas. And since we got that time back, flying over, for the most part, we'd get there around 2pm I play poker until Sunday, mid afternoon, sleep on the plane, fly back home, go back to work on Monday. And I did okay. I don't think I lost a whole bunch to where I was like, ah. I also don't think I won a whole bunch. I did win an entire tournament one time for tens of thousands of dollars, like won the whole freaking thing. Which, by the way, if you're a poker player, you know the goal is always to win the tournament, but it's really just to get in the money and go as far as you can. Because you do need some very fortunate things to happen, even if you're playing awesome. But that's what happened. I played a whole tournament at Treasure island, which they may have torn that casino down. Now is one big boat in front of it. Yeah, I'm not sure, but I remember Lunchbox coming over and it was like noon when I started and him being there at like 10:30pm because he was going into the club and then him at the end of the night at like 4am coming out and I'm still playing. I was down to like three people. I won the whole freaking thing. It was awesome. But I got a little too obsessed with poker. It wasn't so much the gambling part of, was the competition part of it. And I will bet on college football. I feel like a much better college football, but I never bet so much that it will absolutely ruin my day. Now sports will ruin my day. If Arkansas loses a game they're supposed to win, it will for sure ruin my day. That sucks. But yeah, gambling's way down. But I'm going to say for the same reason that porn is way down, I would imagine that most dudes that are gambling aren't telling their ladies how much they're actually gambling, or not even their ladies, but the lady they may be dating a little bit, they're not actually sharing how much they're dating. Or I think women would be a lot more disgusted with them. But also women can gamble too. And I'm just going from this and the last one is Manosphere. I don't know what that is, so I'm going to have to Google that. What is manosphere as far as a hobby is concerned? All right, Google says the manosphere isn't a hobby in the traditional sense like woodworking or Magic the Gathering. It's more of a loose network of online communities focused on men's issues, masculinity and gender dynamics. That said, some people treat it like a hobby and how deeply they engage. Oh, is this like Andrew Tate, like, I'll teach you how to be a real man. I'll teach you how to be an alpha. Those dudes are so lame. People treat this and by this videos, reading forums, joining podcasts, debating topics regularly like a religion. That's funny. I would have never known that's what the manosphere is. People spend hours consuming and discussing manosphere content. They follow thought leaders, Andrew Tate, Jordan Peterson, et cetera. Some see it as part of a self improvement lifestyle, others engage in it for entertainment, debate or community subgenres. Red Pill focuses on power dynamics and dating MGTOW men going their own way, rejecting romantic relationships entirely. PUA or pua pickup artist dating strategies and then men's self help, confidence, money lifting, life skills. See, I have no problem if it's about health and wellness. It's just this is me speaking here, not me reading from Google. It's just some of these are so toxic and a lot of these guys that try to prove how masculine they are and they want to prove to you how they can get any woman they're actually gay and this is how they're making up for it or trying to prove they're not. And there's so much misogyny in this. And I'm not somebody who's going to scream toxic masculinity all the time, but there is a such thing and a lot of that happens here. A lot of conspiracy theories too. So I didn't know what this was, but I think I'm kind of passionate about it now. It is important to separate the constructive parts, like self improvement from the darker corners. So as a hobby, I guess it's just dudes trying to be more dude. Like dude, that's wild. That's called Manosphere. That's a pretty lame name for something. But the whole point is not to be lame, right? Manosphere. That's funny.

[Danielle Roubais]

Just like great shoes, Great books take you places through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters you'll never forget.

[Jay Shetty]

I think any good romance, it gives me this feeling of like butterflies.

[Danielle Roubais]

I'm Danielle Roubais and this is bookmarked by Reese's Book Club, the new podcast from hello Sunshine and I Heart Podcasts. Every week I sit down with your favorite book lovers, authors, celebrities, book talkers and more to explore the stories that shape us on the page and off. I've been reading every Reese's Book Club pick, deep diving book talk theories and obsessing over book to screen casts for years. And now I get to talk to the people making the magic. So if you've ever fallen in love with a fictional character or cried at the last chapter, or passed a book to a friend saying you have to read this, this podcast is for you. Listen to Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Ebony]

Welcome to Pretty Private with ebony, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm Ebony and every Tuesday I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. On Pretty Private, we'll explore the untold experiences of women of color who faced it all childhood trauma, addiction, abuse, incarceration, grief, mental health struggles and more and found the strength to make it to the other side.

[Unnamed Guest]

My dad was shot and killed in his house. Yes, he was a drug dealer. Yes, he was a confidential informant. But he wasn't shot on a street corner. He wasn't shot in the middle of a drug deal. He was shot in his house, unarmed.

[Ebony]

Pretty Private isn't just a podcast, it's your personal guide for turning storylines into lifelines. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast Network. Tune in on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

[Unnamed Host]

For my Heart podcasts and Rococo Punch, this is the turning river road.

[Jay Shetty]

I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life what that meant.

[Unnamed Host]

In the woods of Minnesota, a cult leader married himself to 10 girls and forced them into a secret life of abuse.

[Jay Shetty]

Why did I think that way? Why did I allow myself to get so sucked in by this man and thinking to the point that if I died for him, that would be the greatest honor?

[Unnamed Host]

But in 2014, the youngest of the girls escaped and sparked an international manhunt.

[Jay Shetty]

For all those years, you know, he was the predator and I was the prey. And then he became the prey.

[Unnamed Host]

Listen to the Turning river road, starting on July 8th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm gonna answer this poll here. I had this sent to me. In basketball, who is the greatest NBA player of all time? My answer is LeBron James. Even though I saw Michael Jordan, why LeBron? And I had no time to go through and put answers on this. I'm gonna answer them off, just whatever comes to mind. I think people don't credit longevity, and I don't think it should only be credited by itself, but people don't credit longevity. LeBron's like 83 now. I was 40. But he has played for so long at such a high level. I think he was second team all NBA this last season. Second team or third team at 40 years old. Also, he can play point. He can also play the five. Also, his competition is better. Now. I'm not somebody who's going to say, you're so wrong if you pick Michael Jordan, because I understand most people feel that way. I do think if I were getting to draft one player of all time, I would go LeBron first, because again, he can play all positions. He plays point. Go. He is so large. He's Magic size, but more versatile than Magic was. So I'm going to go LeBron first, Michael Jordan second. I know Kobe is the answer for three, but I may go Steph at three, Kobe at four, Kareem at five. A lot of freaking Lakers there. Number two. Oh, this is interesting. Steph Curry or Magic Johnson? Who's the better point guard? I'm gonna go Steph, because I think Magic wasn't really a traditional point guard. He did a lot of great, awesome point guard things, and he was so large as a point guard, which made it really hard to put another point guard on him, guarding him because he could then just post them up. But I'm gonna go Steph. I've watched more Steph. I think that's probably the real reason. I think recency bias, because Steph is still playing right now. Magic changed the game for sure. But Steph completely changed the NBA. Everybody's upset at the NBA because everybody shoots threes all the time. That's Steph. If you could build a team around one NBA player today, who are you picking? Great question. Probably Giannis Jokic, one of those two. One of those non Americans. They're young enough. You're going to get another decade out of them, probably. And they're so dominant. I'm probably going to go Jokic. I don't know. Okay, I'll go Jokic, then Giannis. In that order. Best dunker in NBA history. This is my last basketball one. A friend sent me these, and there's four in four different categories. So I'm going to read these here. I'm on vacation. There's no content coming out right now. I'm going to be honest with you. I sat down to do this podcast because as I was looking through the podcast that I was listening to, that I always listen to, because I definitely have a series and a formula of what I listen to on what days. If it's Bill Simmons or Rossillo or mostly sports or pardon my take, like, I know what days they come out. Or macrodosing. Like, I love those podcasts. I know what days they come out. And now that it's the 4th of July week and everybody's like, off and doing best of, it's really thrown me for a loop. So I came down here to the microphone and I was just going to do that one segment and maybe attach it to something in a show next week. But as I was doing it, I started to realize maybe people are listening to this who are also upset they're not getting new content. So I'll just go ahead and do an episode here. I don't know if it's going to be an hour. I think we're 30 minutes in now. But I'll answer these questions. Foreign football. Who is the greatest NFL quarterback of all time? The answer has to be Tom Brady, I feel, because of the rings. So I think that's the answer, and I think that's a bit unfair to say because I didn't do that with Michael Jordan, LeBron, so it's a bit hypocritical, but I'm still going to say Tom Brady. If you were to say in a vacuum, you pick a single quarterback and they're your quarterback, I'm picking Peyton Manning. But Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback of all time. Tom Brady won with a different set of characters. Like, he made people great. I think it was 1991, Michael Jordan won his first title and it wasn't until Scottie Pippen got there. Like, I don't think he ever won a title without Pippen, where Brady did win a championship without insert whomever. But again, it's hypocritical me to say that, but, yeah, I'm gonna go. I'll go. Brady. The best college football program of all time. Alabama sucks. It sucks being an Arkansas fan right now. Not that it's been the greatest Easter basket ever, because we don't win. I've never seen a football national championship. I've seen us get close 99. Had we not fumbled, we would have beat Tennessee. Been undefeated going into the last game of the year, won that, we'd have been playing for national championship. Yeah, but I've not seen a whole lot of awesome Arkansas seasons. When Bobby Petrino was our head coach, we had a few really, really great seasons in a row. And that was the greatest time to be an Arkansas fan. And it was amazing. And then the whole motorcycle wreck. So it's tough for me to pick a different program, especially one that's close in proximity, especially one that has the same letter A. Especially one that is close to being the same color. But Alabama's Bear Bryant is an Arkansas native, born and raised in Arkansas. Gotta love that. So I'm go Alabama, because being from the south, they are the greatest traditional Southern college football powerhouse. And I think probably you have to look like Michigan, these other schools, but I'm going to go with Alabama as the greatest college football program of all time. And I think a lot of that is geography bias, at least some of it. Who's the greatest running back ever? Man, the Barry Sanders stuff is so legit. But he never played on a winning team and he was having to survive. It was like he was swimming to save his life every time he got the ball. I wonder how good he would have been because I didn't watch him play at Oklahoma State. Think about that. Him and Thurman Thomas on the same team. I didn't get to watch him play with, like, a functioning offensive line. Also, I was young even when he was awesome. All I got to watch him do was scatter and try to get yards. I wonder how good he would have been if he could just run pretty much downhill, or at least kind of downhill and not left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right. Now go forward. So I'll probably go Barry Sanders, but I think ladanian Tomlinson's in the mix. I'm not going to put Emmett Smith in. Although statistically he does have a lot of the records. But man, I think that was just a great team with a great offensive line. But it's hard. You're comparing decades. But I'll go Barry Sanders and L.T. by the way, I have the right to change my mind in any of this because I don't even read these questions until I pulled this up. Finally, in football, if you had to pick one NFL quarterback to win a game today, who is it? It's Patrick Mahomes. No doubt about it. That's possibly the easiest question. It's Patrick Mahomes. Although I did just watch sped up the AFC Championship game between Mahomes and Brady when Brady ends up beating Mahomes and Mahomes scores a touchdown with like, I don't know, a minute left and Brady ends up driving down. And it's pretty awesome to watch those two guys go at it. But yeah, it's easily Mahomes now. All right, four baseball and then four pop culture. Best hitter in Major League Baseball history. I'm going to go with Tony Gwynn only because the hitters that I like the most like Tony Gwynn the most. He's my favorite hitter's favorite hitter. And I think he was the last guy to really give.400 a look. He didn't hit it, but was really the last guy to give.400 the.400 batting, which by the way, hadn't been done and still hasn't been done since Ted Williams did it way back in the day. And I think Ted Williams. And again, I'm going from memory, no research here. I'm pretty certain Ted Williams could have set out the last game and had.400 but he decided to go in bad anyway. So I'm going to go Tony Gwynn as the greatest hitter of all time. Should steroid era players be allowed in the hall of Fame? Yes, because you've allowed some, but you're going to not allow others. For me, I think that's probably the most problematic thing about not allowing some in. There are some hall of famers from that McGuire Sosa, Barry Bonds era, Roger Clemens, like you're talking about pitchers were using them as well. And when I say steroids, I'm talking about performance enhancing drugs. Not just drugs that make you look jacked, but drugs that allow you to heal faster from an injury. Right. Any of that's performing or performance enhancing. So I think players should be compared against other players. Also, you've let players in that were on steroids probably without even knowing they were on steroids. So unless you did a steroid check on every player, I think players should be compared to the other players they played against. And does that suck for the players that didn't do steroids? Yeah, for sure. But do I think they should be allowed in the hall of Fame? Yeah, I do.

[Danielle Roubais]

Just like Great shoes, Great books take you places through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters you'll never forget.

[Jay Shetty]

I think any good romance, it gives me this feeling of like butterflies.

[Danielle Roubais]

I'm Danielle Roubais and this is bookmarked by Reese's Book Club, the new podcast from hello Sunshine and I Heart Podcasts. Every week I sit down with your favorite book lovers, authors, celebrities, book talkers and more to explore the stories that shape us on the page and off. I've been reading every Reese's Book Club pick, deep diving book talk theories and obsessing over book to screen casts for years. And now I get to talk to the people making the magic. So if you've ever fallen in love with a fictional character, or cried at the last chapter, or passed a book to a friend saying you have to read this, this podcast is for you. Listen to Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Ebony]

Welcome to Pretty Private with ebony, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm Ebony and every Tuesday I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. On Pretty Private, we'll explore the untold experiences of women of color who faced it all childhood trauma, addiction, abuse, incarceration, grief, mental health struggles and more and found the strength to make it to the other side.

[Unnamed Guest]

My dad was shot and killed in his house. Yes, he was a drug dealer. Yes, he was a confidential informant. But he wasn't shot on street corner. He wasn't shot in the middle of a drug deal. He was shot in his house, unarmed.

[Ebony]

Pretty Private isn't just a podcast, it's your personal guide for turning storylines into into lifelines. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast Network. Tune in on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

[Unnamed Host]

For my heart podcasts and Rococo Punch, this is the turning river road.

[Jay Shetty]

I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life what that meant.

[Unnamed Host]

In the woods of Minnesota, a cult leader married himself to 10 girls and forced them into a secret life of abuse.

[Jay Shetty]

Why did I think that way? Why did I allow myself to get so sucked in by this man and thinking to the point that if I died for him, that would be the greatest honor?

[Unnamed Host]

But in 2014, the youngest of the girls escaped and sparked an international manhunt.

[Jay Shetty]

For all those years, you know, he was the predator and I was the prey. And then he became the prey.

[Unnamed Host]

Listen to the Turning river road starting on July 8th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Bobby Bones]

If you had to pick one DH for a game. Ortiz, Bonds, a rod or somewhere else or someone else. I think Barry Bonds is the most dominant player I've ever seen in a sport. Now. I think Ohtani is probably creeping up now. Ohtani threw 102 the other day. I think he pitched two innings. I think he did three pitches over 100 miles an hour. So Ohtani is doing what we've never seen before. I don't think Ohtani is quite the hitter Barry Bonds is, because Barry Bonds, to me, is the greatest hitter of all time as far as hitting home runs with average. I think Tony Gwynn's the greatest hitter of all time because you just didn't strike him out and his average was way up there. But if we're also saying power slugging, base hits, walks, they walked Bonds as much as they threw to him. But I think Ohtani could end up taking over Bonds. I do think Bonds is the most dominant player I've ever seen in his sport. I think Bonds, and I've said it before, it was controversial, nobody agreed with me. But I think Bonds was a better baseball player than Michael Jordan was a basketball player. Boom. Final baseball 1. What's the most exciting World Series you remember watching? That's easy. Is 2016 Chicago Cubs Cubs fan my whole life, Arkansas Keith diehard Cubs fan I was a Cubs fan from 8 years old, and I used to watch every game. I think one year I watched like 153 of 162 games. I never won all 162. I don't think they ever showed all 162, even though WGN did show most, if not all. And they had a bunch of games in the day. They used to not have night games at Wrigley Field, which was crazy. They didn't have lights there. Like in my lifetime, they didn't have lights at Wrigley. And I remember the game that the first ever night game. I remember watching it. I remember Steve Young Singing Steve Young, the announcer, singing like he had like a tuxedo on. He was singing on WGN because it was the night game. It was like, just like the freaking Grammys. But I'm a Cubs fan my whole life, right from the days of Damon, Barry Hill, Joe Girardi catching, Mark Grace at first, Ryan Sandberg is second, Shawn Dunstan at shortstop. I mean, third baseman. Go all the way back to Vance Law and the outfield, Dawson and Wright. I mean, you could do Palmeiro and left if you want, or you could do even like the center fielder when they had the Rookie of the year and the second place to rookie of the year, which was Jerome Walton and Dwight Smith, all the guys from Zebrano. My favorite player ever was Mark Grace. So all that said, I was very invested in The Cubs and 2016 went to the World Series, and I went to game two and watched the Cubs lose to Cleveland. And when it was game seven, and again, you don't know a game seven is going to happen. But the CMAs had invited me to present for the first time, and I believe that was on cbs. I may be getting my networks wrong, but I don't think I am. No, Maybe it was abc. I don't know. It's changed, so it doesn't matter, the network. But the CMA's had finally asked me to be a part of their broadcast, to come present an award. And for me, I'd been in town four years and my television curb really hadn't started to the point where it got. And so I was super honored. And I was like, for sure, it was a big deal for me to get on the CMAs and to go up on national television and present an award. And. And they asked me, like, weeks and weeks out, and I had to, a few days before the show, say, I'm really sorry, I am not going to be able to be there. And they were like, why? I was like, because the Cubs are in the World Series, Game 7. And my whole life I've been a Chicago Cubs fan. I'm not going to miss it. And people looked at me like I had two heads, but I was not going to miss it. Like there were people. Just take a half step back. The Cubs hadn't won a world series since 1908. Before that, that I've been to a world series since 1945. Right. So you're talking about history. History that there were people who lived an entire life and lived to be old and died and never saw the Cubs win a World Series or, heck, even Go. If you were born in 46, but you had died before 16, you never even got to see them be in a World Series. So I felt like, as a real fan, for me, that was the most important thing to do was to watch that game. And then the rain delay hit and then the Cubs won. It was awesome. It was awesome. So for me, that's the greatest World Series ever, because that one was so personal to me. But what I really hope, too, is that I don't end up being that Cubs fan that never got to see a championship with Arkansas football, because I don't feel like now we have the ability to win a national championship. I don't feel like from athletic director down, I don't feel like we're there because we don't have money pouring in. That sucks. All right, four final questions here. These are pop culture debate style questions. Here we go. What's the best sports video game athlete ever? Oh, okay. I thought it's a video game ever. But athlete man, Bo Jackson and Christian Okoye were pretty tough in Tecmo bowl back in the day. And now I never actually had Tecmo Bowl. Scotty, my neighbor, had a Nintendo. We couldn't afford a Nintendo, but he had a Nintendo. And so I'll try to go over to his house and play Tecmo bowl. Or I would get on his Commodore 64 and play Yahoo Chess. But if you could get the Raiders with Bo Jackson or the Chiefs with Christian Okoye, pretty tough to stop. Mike Tyson was pretty strong and punch out as well. Shaq and NBA Jam. Pretty tough, but Shaq was on Orlando. If I'm correct again, I just opened these questions so I could be wrong. I think it was maybe Shaq and Penny. I don't know. Next up, most likable athlete of all time. Three questions left. Probably Steph. Especially in the era of when we know about people because of their social media and because there are phones everywhere. I think there were very likable athletes back in the day because we didn't know enough about them except for what the magazines or the newspapers or the television shows. Like, I think the Bash Brothers were super cool as a kid. Jose canseco and Mark McGwire. I didn't like the A's, but I thought they were cool because they could hit home runs. They had gigantic arms. They're very likable because you only saw what they wanted you to see. But in the age of knowing about an athlete, I think it's probably going to be Steph. If you don't like Steph, you just don't like yourself as a person. Now you can not like what he's done to the NBA because it's all threes all the time. But that's not like a Steph problem. Like Steph seems like the nice. I've never met Steph but Steph seems like the nicest guy. So I'm going to go Steph Curry most knowing fan base in sports. I actually just did this on the episode last week where I have it number one, Kentucky basketball. Yeah, so I'll do that. And then finally, if you could bring one athlete back in their prime to play today, who is it? I think it's probably. And again this could be super recency bias because I just talked about them. I remember Bo Jackson playing as a kid and I remember the whole Bo knows and Bo Diddley the guitar player and Bo knows this, Bo knows that. And there's the card where in the poster where Bo has on shoulder pads and he has the bat over his shoulders at the same time. And Bo Jackson was in the home run Derby, Major league Baseball which was super cool. Like he was that dude and he was dominant at two sports baseball. And there's a really cool video of him. I think Bo Jackson's like coaching with the White Sox and there's another player and his son and Bo Jackson was like yeah, I was pretty good back in the day. And the kid has no idea because the kid's like 10 years old. It's a cool video on TikTok but Bo Jackson was so dominant and I believe they were playing the Bengals when he blew his hip out and then he was never the same after that. I would love to see Bo Jackson back in his prime uninjured because I think he's probably one of the greatest athletes ever. But again that's a lot of me talking from what I've been able to see in my life. I think if you were to ask somebody who was like 60, they might say Mickey Mantle because he was so friggin dominant at playing baseball now he didn't play both sports and I think Deion Sanders is another example of somebody but I think Deion was way ahead of his time. I think there are other guys like Deion now that are extremely athletic that could probably, it's tough to say play two sports but if they would have focused on that probably. I mean not that Deion wasn't like the.00001% of professional athletes. Like Bo Jackson was different because he was that Fast, but he was so much bigger and thicker and stronger yet he was still running. 4 2. There are reports of a 41940 bo Jackson. And again, that's all handheld timer, no laser timers. So I'm probably gonna go Bo Jackson on that. And that's it. I was watching this video though. I'll end on this of all of these, either police officers or people in the military who are getting tased because you can't officially have a taser if you don't know what one feels like. And so it's just one person after another. And a lot of them, they're in their fatigues or they're in their police uniform and two people are holding them, one on each side. And it's like 15 of these in a row. And it's them just getting tased because they have to feel it before they can use it. That's always what I was told. That's always why people had to do the pepper spray for my friends that were in law enforcement was that if they're going to hold and spray somebody pepper spray, they have to know what it feels like before they can actually put it on other people. So I'm going to play you some of this video. People just getting tased. That's military. I'm interrupting how many?

[Jay Shetty]

Sheriff's office.

[Bobby Bones]

There's a bad word there. Sorry about that. That's police. Here's military.

[Jay Shetty]

That's a big dude too.

[Bobby Bones]

That dude's like six foot five. Military, Military. She is taking it like a no sound, no sound. She's looking at it. She took that taser and she just looked and she just stared and she's like, is that all you got? Is that all you got now? When it was over, she was like, whoa. But man, she crushed it. I'll give you a few more. Here's police.

[Danielle Roubais]

Oh my God.

I said, oh.

[Bobby Bones]

Please. Taser, taser, taser. Please. I be peeing all over myself. Please. Oh, he looks like he ate a sour lemon. Please. Oh, damn. I'm not doing that. Military dude. I'll watch this. It's like a two minute video. I watch that thing. Taste it, taste it, taste. And they just got popped. All right, that's it. Thank you, guys. If you made it this far, you're a 50 minute clubber. We're gonna put this up on whistles. I know that a lot of the Bob's show and the Bobbykats audience doesn't come over to whistles because it's mostly just sports. But if you made it here. Maybe send me a message over on Instagram, say, Hey, 50 minute club whistles during the break. Because I'm gonna tell you why I did this. There's nobody here with me. Had to push all the buttons myself, had to record it, had to send it off, had to do all the stuff. But I did it because I know what it's like to be looking for my podcast and they're not there because of a holiday schedule. And I hate that. And I hate it so much that I wanted to, for you guys that listen to us, wanted you to have something to listen to. All right, you guys may pop back, may not. If I do it, it'll probably be a Bobby cast or something. But you guys hope you have a great holiday week and we'll be sure to see you next week. All right, bye, everybody. Theme song written by Bobby Bones. That's me. And performed by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on socials at brandonraymusic. You can follow the show on Instagram at Bobby Bonesports. Thanks to our crew, co host, Produce Ready, segment producer at KickOffKevin and executive producer ikeistro. But most importantly, thank you for listening, Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next time here on 25 Whistles.

[Ebony]

Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebony, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm Ebony and every Tuesday I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect podcast network. Tune in on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

[Jay Shetty]

I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life what that.

[Unnamed Host]

Meant for my heart. Podcasts and Rococo Punch. This is the Turning River Road. In the woods of Minnesota, a cult leader married himself to 10 girls and forced them into a secret life of abuse. But in 2014, the youngest escaped. Listen to the Turning river road starting on July 8th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jay Shetty]

Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, the host of the number one health and wellness podcast in the world. On Purpose. On On Purpose, I sit down with some of the most fascinating minds, from world class athletes to wellness experts and thought leaders to uncover their secrets to living a happier, more meaningful life. If you're looking for inspiration, tools for growth, and real conversations that challenge you to think differently, listen to on purpose on the iHeartRadio app. Amazon Music or wherever you listen to podcasts.

[Ebony]

This is an iHeart podcast.