#524 - Bobby Believes He is Being Blackballed from DWTS + Celebrities Who Have Been Blackballed Over the Years + Round 2 of Fan Q&A: What Drives Bobby to Succeed? And More + Lionel Richie Invited Bobby to One of His Shows! - The Bobby Bones Show

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Bobby Bones
This is an I Heart podcast. Nourishes like a smoothie and sizzles like a smash burger. Easy to pick up and hard to put down. Made from plants and grills like beef. See, it's not. Or it's. And. And that's what I love about impossible. Just this weekend, a couple impossible burgers. Put them on the grill. Boom. Felt like I was having a cheat meal without the feeling of the guilt of a cheat meal. It's not just burgers. They got hot dogs, chicken. Everything you need for your summer menu. Look for the impossible red packaging at your grocery store today.
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Unknown Speaker
So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to.
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There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond and.
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Left a woman behind to drown.
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Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family.
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Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get podcast.
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Ian Pfaff
My Uncle Chris was a real character, a garbage truck driver from South Carolina who is now buried in Panama City alongside the founding families of Panama. He also happens to be responsible for the craziest night of my life. Wild stories about adventure, romance, crime, history and war intertwine as I share the tall tales and hard truths that have helped me understand Uncle Chris. Listen now to Uncle Chris on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
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Bobby Bones
So I wanted to do this bobbycast about being blackballed and celebrities that have been either kicked out of places or blackballed from things, because I do think that's what's happened to me. Now, I don't have official paperwork. I don't have a signed letter. There's been no big public announcement about this. But in my opinion, and that opinion is based on some facts, some vibes, some people that started suddenly pretending like I didn't exist. I do believe that I've been blackballed from Dancing with the Stars. This trophy right here, I'm the former champ. After I won the mirror ball, I guess they decided there's a do not invite back list and I'm on it. So I don't think it really even bothered me because I didn't notice it. Therefore, I never acknowledged it until somebody that works within the organization was like, hey, yeah, you don't get invited back. And I don't really know why.
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Unknown Speaker
So.
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Bobby Bones
So I don't get invited back to the finales. I don't get invited to even stand in the crowd awkwardly and clap in sequins like some of the people do. And some of my friends that have been on the show do get invited back. They haven't even won the show. I have been back two times and that was because I had a friend on the show. And that's because I called them and said, hey, I'm coming back. And so look, I get it just on this show specifically. And I do have the mirror ball. If you're watching this on YouTube right here beside me. Just so you know, I'm not lying. I was the greatest dance champion ever, But I was not a great dancer. I was a great vote getter. And maybe that messed up their whole system. In fact, it did because they changed the rules the season right after I left to make sure that good people wouldn't get kicked off the show. But I do feel a that I loved my time on the show. It was awesome. I do feel like I was the least difficult person to work with on the show. I think generally I'm a very easy person to work with. I mean, heck, on that show, I was gone half the time. I was either training in Nashville and the show shoots in LA and I would get back in time to do the show, or I was on the road on the weekends because the show shot on Monday and I would tour and do stand up Friday night and Saturday night and get back to Los Angeles. I mean, my partner, Sharna, Listen, I don't know why, but she wasn't even on the show for years after we won. I think this is the first year she finally gets to go back. So if you've ever been politely ghosted by ballroom dance, I know your pain. Because I do feel like I've been blackballed from Dancing with the Stars. But this episode isn't all about that. But it's kind of what inspired me to do this episode. So today we're diving into some of the other famous people who've been banned or booted or blackballed or just kicked out or however you want to describe it. Because if I'm going down, I'm going down with Elite Company. And let's start. I think I have 11 of these. It's a weird number. I have oddly numbered list all the time. At number 11, Sinead O'. Connor. The date was October 3, 1992. Sinead O'. Connor. Performed Bob Marley's War on Saturday Night Live. Now, that's not a song that I know super well. I know. Don't worry about a thing. I know that one. I know Three Little Birds. Is that the same song I was just singing? No. So she's performing, and it's an acapella performance. And at the end of her performance, she holds up a picture of Pope John Paul II and she rips it in half on live television. I was not watching when she did this, but I have seen the clip a bunch of times. In 1992, I was 12. I don't think I knew anything one about Bob Marley or really Sinead O'. Connor. And I think I was just now getting into snl. And also, if you didn't watch it live, you kind of didn't see it back then. It wasn't like now, where everything lives online. But she rips that picture in half and says, fight the real enemy. And what she was doing was protesting child abuse in the Catholic Church. This is years before the scandals that we know now were widely publicized. So NBC was crushed with complaints. Lorne Michaels banned her from returning to Saturday Night Live, and that pretty much derailed her US Career. Now, she was seen as being ahead of her time because years later, you know what happens? All that crap comes out about all those priests that were touching kids. Yeah, that's exactly what happened. Exactly what she was talking about. She rips the picture and says, no, let's not let this happen. But she was kicked off, and she ultimately lost her career because of it. I think you would know her from one song. Nothing compares to you. There's a. Actually a Prince song that she sang and made a massive hit, but that was it. She was kicked off SNL and basically didn't have a chance to be a pop star in America. Next up, and we can do SNL again is Martin Lawrence. 1994, he was hosting SNL. He goes off script in his monologue, and it's very graphic. And it was an extended rant about women's hygiene, specifically vaginal odor, you know, and in the 90s, I mean, even today on SNL, you'd be like, what's even happening there in the 90s? Even weirder, because nobody did that. NBC obviously freaked out. They cut the monologue from their reruns, and they put him on an unofficial blacklist, and he didn't return to the show for over 20 years. The incident became legendary because again, here's SNL again, telling somebody else, you can't come on. But it also felt like Martin Lawrence was testing how far he could go. And, yeah, he found the line. I've done that a few times where you're like, I wonder. And then you find the line real quick. Another time that I was kicked out of somewhere was, this is probably early 2000s. I went to Texas State University to speak to a class about radio and television broadcasting. And I went specifically into the radio class, and there's probably about 30 kids there. And they were all asking questions. And I remember saying to them, hey, look, if you're in college just to study radio, you're wasting your time. Like, either get started working for real. Like, if this is what you want to do, get started working for real, because you don't need college. But if you're in college, that's great. I didn't, you know, I didn't know anybody. None of my family went to college. I wanted to be the first person to graduate college. And if you're in college for that reason, that's awesome. But find a different thing to get your degree in. So I go and I give this speech. And I felt like I was pretty real with them. I was like, if you're studying radio, don't study radio. Get that in the real world. But if you want to stay in college, learn something else that can be something you can fall back on. About a week later, I got a letter in the mail, the actual physical mail sent to the radio station saying I was never invited back to speak at Texas State University. Pretty much Martin Lawrence and the vaginal odor. That's very similar things there. Elvis Presley was censored on the Ed Sullivan Show. Elvis performed in 1956. You've probably seen the clips. CBS refused to show him from the waist down because his hips was basically sex on black and white television. Vulgar. That's what they said. Like the TV Guide. Remember when that was a thing? But Ed Sullivan had said he was not going to book Elvis at all. But he did want the ratings. And so Elvis comes on dances, they don't show below his hips. He comes on again. They're like, dude, you got to chill out a little bit. He doesn't chill out. They're like, we're never going to invite him back. But the ratings, like I said, have been going up and up. So they had him back, and they showed full body. And the thing about censoring somebody is once people find out somebody's being censored, they really want to see what's being kept from them. So once they showed Elvis in full body. Like, part of his appeal was, we're not supposed to see this. And he kept doing it. And that's kind of what we know Elvis for. If you were doing an impression, it involves a lot of hip gyration. Well, and lip like this. This is not a good example of me doing the lip, but that kind of. That looks like I'm having a seizure. The visual. Amazing. Madonna was banned from the Vatican. In 1989, Madonna released Like a Prayer, which showed her kissing a saint, dancing in front of burning crosses, and basically challenging a lot of Catholic imagery. The Vatican condemned it immediately, which again, once they did that, it just made it bigger. I think that's something you're also going to see is that once people publicly say, yep, that's true, we no longer allow you or we no longer want you to do A, B, C or D, then whatever they're not wanted to do actually becomes bigger and more meaningful. Her 1990 Blonde Ambition tour, she had that. And Pope John Paul II called for a boycott of her concerts in Italy, accusing her of satanic behavior. And you know, what Madonna did, she just did more because she knew all the press it was bringing to her shows. And so that kind of made her into the massive pop star that she was. Yep, you gotta have talent. Yep. The timing's gotta be right, but also if the right people push against you and you push back, you're even bigger because of it. And so you saw that happen to Madonna, and she's one of the biggest pop stars in the history of, you know, American pop music. We can talk about Pete Rose, who forever was banned from the Baseball hall of Fame. Now this is a bit different because he now is not banned from the hall of Fame. He's not in yet, but once he died, he's now allowed to be in. So he's baseball's all time hits leader. 4,256 hits. He was banned for life in 1989 because there was an investigation into him betting on games while being a manager of a team. That team was Cincinnati Reds. And he said he never bet against his team because that'd be cheating. Right. Because if you bet against your team, you can actually make decisions to make your team lose. Therefore you would make more money. But because you're a manager and you're betting and you obviously have insider information, even if you're betting on your team to win or you're betting on other teams, once he admitted to the gambling, they were like, you're out, you're done. So he has admitted he's signed a bunch of balls. I'm sorry, I bet on baseball. He lobbied for reinstatement. Very divisive figure. While he was alive and forever, the hall of Fame refused to consider him. But just even a few weeks ago, they have now said now that he's died, he can be up for the Baseball hall of Fame, which is kind of crazy. Like, if you're going to let him be, I don't know, can you, like, deathbed him? Like a special rule where if someone's dying and it's close, you, like, throw them in real quick. But, yeah, he'll never get to see that. That's crazy. Tonya Harding was banned for life from US figure skating. Now we'll go back to the 90s for this one. In 1994, Tonya Harding's ex husband, Jeff Gillooly, and her bodyguard, they attacked Nancy Kerrigan. Nancy Kerrigan was her skating rival. They were both from the United States. They were both going to go to the Olympics. And they later did go to the Olympics. Nancy Kerrigan did. I believe Kerrigan ended up bronzing. But they popped Nancy Kerrigan in the leg. They clubbed her in the knee with, like, a stick. So she was unable to compete. And like the US Championship, one of the US Ones. So Tonya Harding denied knowing in advance that it was happening, but evidence showed that she knew after. But she was never found guilty of being a part of actually planning or clubbing Nancy Kerrigan in the knee. Which, by the way, if you've never seen, I think it's I. Tonya with Margot Robbie. You should watch that. It's awesome. Like, Margot Robbie kind of kills it. I think Tonya Harding did Dancing with the Stars, too. Justice for Tonya Harding. Now, I don't know about justice, but she pled guilty to hindering prosecution. She was banned for life by the US Figure Skating Association. No Olympics. I do think, though, that Nancy Kerrigan bronzed Brandon, will you look that up for me? See if Nancy Kerrigan medaled in that. Tonya Harding was all over the tabloids. And then I. Tonya was nominated for an Oscar way later on Ron Artest. If we're staying in the athletic world, he was suspended 86 games. Now, he wasn't kicked out of anything for life or black ball, but this is a massive suspension. If we go back to 2004, the malice at the palace, there's a documentary on Netflix. You should watch that if you don't remember the game. And we probably weren't watching the game live as it happened because you're talking about just a regular NBA regular season game. And so this happens as Pacers and Pistons and there are people, they're fighting the fans. It is unbelievable. Like when this is over or pause this, go look at the clips of Malice in the Palace. So a fan threw a drink at Ron Artest as it was going down and he charges into the stands. I'm talking about swinging hard. Players are fighting. Players are fighting. Fans, fans are throwing stuff. Ron Artest was suspended for the rest of the season. 86 games, the longest suspension for an on court incident. It changed league policies. Security increased, still has increased. Alcohol sales were reduced. Like there's a cutoff point. And that was to a time when NBA image control became a priority. Dude, it's crazy to look back at. And now they've also done documentaries with the players talking about that night. And they're all. They all get along now, pretty much. Brandon, what do you see? She won silver seven weeks after the attack. Nancy Kerrigan won silver seven weeks. Hey, better than bronze by one. And there's your fact of the night. The silver is better than bronze by one. Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.
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Unknown Speaker
So what happened to Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to.
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There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond and.
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Left a woman behind to drown.
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There's a famous headline, I think in the New York Daily News, it's Teddy escapes, blonde drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you the story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become president?
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Kappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control.
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And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal.
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The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs, violence, you name it. So is there a curse? Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family.
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Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Ian Pfaff
My Uncle Chris is definitely somebody worth talking about. He was the kind of guy that used Confederate flags as window curtains, lived in a trailer with an ex con and a retired stripper. Left loaded machine guns laying around, drank a bottle of whiskey a night, claimed he could kill a man with his bare hands, drove a garbage truck for a living, spoke fluent Spanish with a thick southern accent, and is currently buried in a crypt Alongside the founding families of Panama. Listen to the Uncle Chris podcast to hear all about him and a whole lot more. This collection of stories will make you laugh. It'll make you cry. And if I do my job right, they'll let you see the world and your place in it in a whole new way. I can't wait to tell you all about Uncle Chris. Listen now to Uncle Chris on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
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Unknown Speaker
From iheart Podcasts and Rococo Punch. This is the Turning River Road.
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I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life what that meant.
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In the woods of Minnesota, a cult leader married himself to 10 girls and forced them into a secret life of abuse.
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Why did I think that way? Why did I allow myself to get so sucked in by this man and thinking to the point that if I died for him, that would be the greatest honor?
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But in 2014, the youngest of the girls escaped and sparked an international manhunt.
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For all those years, you know, he was the predator and I was the prey. And then he became the prey.
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Listen to the Turning river road on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Bobby Bones
And we're back on the Bobbycast. The Rolling Stones were banned from complete cities in the late 60s and early 70s. The Rolling Stones were blacklisted from entire cities due to how rowdy their fans would get. Also drug busts and arrests. We can go to Boston. 1972. The mayor was threatening to cancel their show because of fan riots in New York City. There were drug arrests and they had been suspected of incitement of rowdy crowds. Really, the Rolling Stones were just a symbol of anti establishment and rebellion through music. And that was a time when there was a lot of anti establishment sentiment. And I think that also helped fuel their mystique because these politicians, which are just like white dudes with insecurity issues, saying we don't like the Rolling Stones. It made people love the Rolling Stones even more. Justin Bieber was banned from China in 2017. China's mystery of Culture cited Bieber with quote, bad behavior, with quote, bad behavior and a need to purify the entertainment environment. And that included public outbursts. Shirtless annex at the Great Wall because he's up on the wall, but he was shirtless a lot. I guess you just don't do that on the Great Wall. He also was caught drag racing In Miami. But that's not even China. But China has not lifted the ban as of right now of Justin Bieber from their country. Oasis was banned from a specific airline and from MTV for a long time. They're back together now, which is pretty cool, but those guys hated each other. But the Gallagher brothers were a disaster. They were kicked off a Cathay Pacific flight in 1998. Liam was smoking drunk and harassing passengers, so the airline banned them. I've not heard of that airline, but it's pretty baller to be banned by an entire airline. Also, it's funny that they were harassing the passengers. It wasn't the passengers harassing them for, like, an autograph. He was so messed up, apparently, allegedly, that he was harassing the people on the plane. We can also go to 1996 MTV Unplugged. Noel agreed to play without Liam because Liam pulled out last minute, because Liam was like, my throat hurts. And then you may have seen the video where Liam is then in the balcony, like, heckling the crowd and his brother on stage. So his throat wasn't hurting that bad. But they were banned from MTV for that. They were banned from multiple UK festivals. They would walk off of shows all the time. But again, because it was so shared when there wasn't social media and shared equaled celebrated. It made them so known. And once they were so known, usually you liked their music, they made great music. And so they were adored. They were hated a little, but mostly they were adored. And I thought it was pretty cool that Oasis announced they're getting back together. Imagine all the millions of dollars they gave up by just being brothers who didn't want to talk to each other. I have one other one, and it's Hank Williams Sr. Who was banned from the Grand Ole Opry. Yeah, I'm talking about the Hank Williams. Like, if you were to do a Mount Rushmore of country artists in the history of country music, Hank Williams would be one of the people you'd put up there. Well, for most people, you know, you're cheating. Hart, that guy, he pretty much built the Opry stage with his sound, and then he got banned in 1952, Hank was the biggest star in country music. But behind the scenes, he was what a lot of artists at that time were. And that was struggling, alcoholism, chronic back pain. And now, and we know this now because we have more knowledge of the situation, mental health issues. So he would play the Opry, but then he started missing Opry performances. And then when he would show up, a lot of the time, he would show up drunk or just wouldn't show up at all. The Opry, known back then for being very strict and for being squeaky clean, had a three strikes and you're out energy. So they fired him and straight up banned him and told him, don't come back until you get sober. And he never made it back. He died a year later at the age of 29 in the backseat of a Cadillac. He never stepped foot on the Opry stage again. Now, decades later, there were petitions and campaigns to reinstate him after his death, but the Opry never officially lifted the ban, because to be a member of the Opry, you've got to be alive. So you can't really put someone dead in the Opry based on the current Opry rules. So he died banned from the Grand Ole Opry. So that whole situation became a symbol of how strict the rules were back then and how those same rules cost country music, really one of country music's brightest lights, which was Hank Senior, you know, one of the people that made country music super famous. So what I'm saying by all that is, I'm basically like all those people. I'm just like, Hank Senior, Ron Artest, Sinead o', Connor, Oasis, and Justin Bieber. That's right. And I know I've not been banned officially from Dancing with the Stars, but when you go from winning a national TV show to, you know, not even getting a. Like, when you post a funny comment on the Dancing with the Stars Instagram page, you know what's up. And you know what? I'm fine with it. I never even would have thought about it until someone called to tell me. I didn't even realize I was banned until someone called to say, hey, you're banned. I don't need the glitter under my eyes. I don't need the tutu that I wore. I just need this trophy right here. And you know what? I have it. It's the people's trophy right there. But if they ever want to do a redemption season for people who were quietly banned, I'm ready to cha cha. I'm ready to get back in it. No, I was pretty terrible. But that's the homework I put into me getting what I think is banned from Dancing with the Stars. See, that's what I'm motivated by when people tell me that you can't do that anymore. I appreciate all the feedback from the last episode that I did by myself here, and I have five other questions that you guys have sent me since then. You can always DM Me questions. I think this is a fun way to kind of put a button on these episodes. Number one, Dear Bobby, what do people assume about your success? That isn't true. And I won't just assign this to whatever success that I've had, but I will assign this to athletic success, success in the business world. And I think, you know, I'll talk to Eddie or some of my other friends about this and they'll go, well, that quarterback won a Super Bowl. He's probably good. Like, he's probably checking out now. And I think my statement back to them is whatever's ingrained in you. Because in order to be wildly successful at something, first of all, there is a ton of sacrifice in other parts of your life. Secondly, whatever screw is loose has got to be the right screw. But that screw doesn't screw itself back in after you've made it. There really isn't a finish line for somebody who's already mentally unstable. And that's what wildly successful people are for the most part. Like, there's something missing in the lives of those people that they feel they have to make up for through whatever they're trying to have success in. And for me, it's been whatever radio, podcast, spoken word, books, whatever that case is. And I think the most misunderstood thing is that you just get to a point and then once you reach that point, you're like, I'm all good now. I think I'm going to coast. If anything, it's the opposite, because you get to the point and you start to be scared that it was a fluke or people think it's a fluke or it's not going to last, or you're becoming irrelevant. So I think that's probably the most misunderstood thing about success, especially in the entertainment world or in the athletic world, sports, that you get to a point, you crush it and you're like, well, I got there, I'm good now. Because if anything, I think it's very much the opposite of that. Next up. Hey, Bobby, do you think you're more driven by fear or ambition? I think my ambition is created by fear. Fear and insecurity, much like that. First question, I think most of what I do is fear based. I think any success I've had has been fear based success. I think my fear comes from growing up very poor, moving around a whole lot, living in a trailer park, not being able to have three meals a day every day, sometimes not seeing an adult for a few days. You know, when you're 10, 11, 12 years old, you Kind of having to figure it out yourself. And so I think a lot of my I'm going to be successful started with I'm going to get the heck out of here. And how do you get out of here? It is to be extremely disciplined. I think discipline and consistency are the two hardest things. I never really try to be dynamic. If it happens, that's awesome. But you can't remain dynamic forever or all the time. What you can do pretty much all the time is be consistent and have discipline. Like, that's the real success. I don't need somebody that's, like amazing some and then pretty crappy other times and kind of met others. Even for people that I work with, like, if they're not consistent, they're not going to be a part of the team. And I'm not looking for A plus efforts followed by a C and then maybe an F and back to an A. I don't care about that. If it's B's all the time, that's awesome. As long as you're giving me solid B's and solid effort all the time. But I would say I'm driven far more by fear and insecurity, or at least was still am, but it used to be really like running on red. You know, you get in the car. I don't. But you know how you see in movies where people hit the gas and it goes over to the red? I think that's what the first 37 years of my life were, just on red the entire time. And when you're on red, because I've seen it in television, on the movies, boom. Sometimes it blows up. And I've had a couple of those. The Bobby cast. We'll be right back.
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Unknown Speaker
So what happened to Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to.
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There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond and.
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Left a woman behind to drown.
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There's a famous headline, I think, in the New York Daily News, it's, teddy Escapes Blonde Drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you the story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become President?
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Kappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control.
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And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal.
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The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs, violence, you name it. So is there a curse? Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family.
[29:42]
Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.
[29:52]
Ian Pfaff
My Uncle Chris is definitely somebody worth talking about. He was the kind of guy that lived in a trailer with an ex con and a retired stripper, left loaded machine guns laying around, drank a bottle of whiskey a night, claimed he could kill a man with his bare hands, drove a garbage truck for a living, spoke fluent Spanish with a thick southern accent, and is currently buried in a crypt alongside the founding families of Panama. Listen to the Uncle Chris podcast to hear all about him and a whole lot more. Wild stories about adventure, romance, crime, history and war intertwine as I share the tall tales and hard truths that have helped me understand Uncle Chris. This collection of stories will make you laugh, it'll make you cry, and if I do my job right, they'll let you see the world and your place in it in a whole new way. I can't wait to tell you all about Uncle Chris. Listen now to Uncle Chris on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts.
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Unknown Speaker
From iheart Podcasts and Rococo Punch. This is the Turning River Road.
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I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life what that meant.
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In the woods of Minnesota, a cult leader married himself to 10 girls and forced them into a secret life of abuse.
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Why did I think that way? Why did I allow myself to get so sucked in by this man and thinking to the point that if I died for him, that would be the greatest honor?
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But in 2014, the youngest of the girls escaped and sparked an international manhunt.
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For all those years, you know, he was the predator and I was the prey. And then he became the prey.
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Listen to the Turning river road on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Bobby Bones
This the Bobbycast. Next up, what's the weirdest or funniest fan interaction you've ever had? Well, when it comes to people saying what's up? I love it because that means you appreciate or consume something that I do. But I think the weirdest is probably in the bathroom. There have been multiple times where a dude has come up while I'm at the urinal and it's kind of weird in the bathroom anyway because that's such a odd, personal, vulnerable place, but especially when your junk is out. And I also realize no one's coming up to me because they see my junk and they Want to see my junk? But mostly it's like, oh, dude, Bobby, what's up? And I literally got it in my hand. So that's weird. Once I was at a urinal, and there's a urinal right next to a stall. And the stall, obviously there's a wall and there's a commode because that's why there's the stall. But the dude stands on the commode, looks over and goes, bobby Bones, I knew that was you. And as he looks over, I mean, you're looking right down on my ding a ling. So that's probably the weirdest. I think if I were to list 1, 2, and 3, all three would be in a public bathroom somewhere. But I appreciate the love and I know it's never on purpose. Two more questions. Hey, Bobby, do you think reality TV helps or hurts someone's career? It's funny because they did not know we were doing this episode on how I've been blackballed. Allegedly. I think it used to be double edged, and I think it used to be held against people, especially in the world that we live in, a country of music and in Nashville, because they would come off the Voice or American Idol and people would look at them as just a reality contestant who's now trying to make it. But now nothing matters. And I say that in a great way, like, nothing matters, but everything matters. But nothing matters so much that it alone is going to make or break someone's career. So when people say, hey, should I go on a show? For me, it's yeah, because you're just exposing yourself to more people. And I think now in the four years that I was on American Idol, they don't force you into contracts anymore. If you get to a certain point, you don't have to sign this major deal with them. Where back in the day day when those shows were killing, if you made it to a certain point, you were then signed. You were obligated to be with whatever that entity was. I know there were certain people during the American Idol days, back way before I was on, when it was like a monster. They would leave, like, right as they got in the top 12 because they did not want to be bound to whatever that agreement was. That doesn't happen anymore. And the main reason it doesn't happen anymore is because people just won't go on the show. If you're thinking about it, you're like, I don't know, do I want to do this? And then you see, well, if I make it, I then have to sign with this management or this label, that's going to cut down 80% of the people that would even think about doing the show. So what I would say is, dude, go get on it. Get on everything. Because the more things you get on, the more people can see you. And it's all about building your base. The people that are going to come to your shows are going to buy your merch. That's it. And those shows will do that now. And you know, if you look back too, I think just about everyone has tried at some point to get on one of those shows. If you're an artist now and you've been in the game for 10 years or less, you probably either tried to get on and didn't got on and got kicked off early or got on and did okay. Morgan Wallen was on the Voice. He's like singing pop songs with like longer ish hair. I think Maren Morris talks about how she got rejected for Idol. I think Hillary Scott from Lady A. Same thing, like tried out for American Idol and didn't get it. And it's always usually like, wow, look how terrible Idol was or is. But mostly those shows are TV shows. They're looking for kinds of artists and they need to fill certain buckets. And then also it's mostly just like low level producers doing those entry rounds where they just watch a bunch of people sing. And like the people that kind of sound good they put through, they may not even understand what they're looking at. So it's very low level people in those early rounds that are watching all the singers and then they have like 5,000 singers a day. So people are bound to slip through the cracks. All right, that's it. We did it again. We did it again. Who's that? We did it again. I want to tell you a quick story. So I was on Instagram the other night. It was about 2:30 in the morning. I have trouble sleeping. So when I wake up now, I know my body enough that's like, if I wake up at 2, 2:30 in the morning, just get up, go into the kitchen, eat some cereal, restart, then get back into bed. I tried for a long time just to keep my eyes shut and just like, come on, we can go back to sleep. That never works. And having had dealt with these issues now for probably two years, what works for me best is almost going like, all right, here we go. I'm up. Let's start over and let's rewind down. But the problem is I'm not always in my right mind Whenever it's 2:30 in the morning because I've awoken right in the middle of sleep. I'm still kind of tired, but I'm not so sleepy that I fall asleep, but my brain's not on full capacity. And so I end up writing things or buying things. Like I bought some. Some stuff that we opened up here on the sports YouTube page, like autographed baseballs. And it all came back as garbage. But I spent like close to $1,000 on all this stuff and none of it was good. But I was on Instagram and I saw Lionel Richie post that. He's doing all these shows. And I'm like, dude, I'm in. I got to come to one of these shows. I wrote that in a message on Instagram story to Lionel Richie. And he responded the next day because he does his own social media, at least reads it. And he goes, just tell me which show. And I go back and I look at it and the entire show list is all European shows. So he's in Europe for like the next two months. And now I've committed to go watch Lionel Richie in Europe. And I love Lionel and I know Lionel, and Lionel has been awesome to me in my career, especially on American Idol. He was great. So kind of. But his manager reached out to was like, hey, Lionel says you want to come to one of his shows in Europe? Like, tell us what show. Lionel would love to see you. Let's go. And I'm like, oh, no. I just committed to going to Europe to watch Lionel Richie. I wish I could go in America to watch Lionel Richie. Then he sent me a message last night. He goes, how about Copenhagen? And I'm like, I don't dip. That's not what he meant. He wanted me to come to Copenhagen. I knew what he meant. I was just kind of kidding. So now I've got to decide if I'm going to go to Europe to watch Lionel Richie do a concert, which I would love to do. I tried to go watch him once in Hawaii because American Idol would send us out every year to Hawaii. We would work from the Disney resort. And it was one of the stages before the top 12. So I went from like 40 to 12. So every year. And that is a long trip from Nashville. It is a long trip. For two of those trips, I think I flew Delta. Later on, Luke, Brian and I would fly private and we would go out together. And that was pretty baller, not going to lie to you. But for the first couple of years, I'd fly Delta And I remember Lionel saying, hey, I'm going to do a show before we start shooting Idol in Hawaii. You should come out. So I left a day early. I'm going out. I get on the flight, and because Idol was paying for it, it was first class. And I'm sitting in the first class seat, and I start to feel terrible. And I tell the flight attendant, hey, I'm not feeling very good. Do you have any, like, Advil? My head was killing me. And so she gives me stuff. I'm drinking a bunch of water, but I just feel it, like, come over me. And so I go into the bathroom, and I vomit hard into the toilet in the bathroom. And I'm like, boy, this is not good. I go back to my seat, My head's still killing me. And I say, hey, just keep the waters coming. I need a blanket. I'm, like, freezing at the same time. Back to the bathroom. I'm vomiting again. At this point, I realize I'm gonna be in the bathroom for a long time because I'm just not feeling good and vomiting every two or three minutes. But I'm also in, like, a airplane bathroom. So as I'm vomiting and as I'm sitting there, because when you vomit, too, you're also like. You're out of breath. You're feeling disgusting. I'm also scrubbing the bathroom with wet paper towels. Because if I'm going to be trapped in there, I don't be laying in everybody's pee. And so I was probably in that bathroom for, like, 50 minutes. And I remember as I was sitting on the floor, opening that bathroom door. And imagine you're a flight attendant, and you see some guy's head down at the bottom of the bathroom door. And I put my head. I'm like, hey, I'm going to be here for a while. I'm pretty sick. But when I left cleanest bathroom in the history Delta, that's what I heard. Now, that's what I made up. But I did not get to go to the Lionel show because as soon as I landed, I went to bed and I was sick for that day and then got to go shoot. So maybe I should go to Europe. But, man, that is a long flight. I do love Lionel. All right, that is it. Thank you, guys. Appreciate you. Please subscribe to the YouTube channel. It's Bobby Bones Channel. If you want to watch these videos. Cause we put them up. You can see my mirror ball with me right here. Also, if you want to subscribe to the sports stuff, it's Bobby Bonesports. That's over on YouTube as well. Thank you guys for being here and we will see you guys next time. I won't say next week, but next time. All right, bye everybody. Thanks for listening to a BobbyKast production.
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Unknown Speaker
So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to.
[41:42]
There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond and.
[41:48]
Left a woman behind to drown.
[41:51]
Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family.
[42:01]
Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
[42:11]
Ian Pfaff
I'm Ian Pfaff, the creator and host of the Uncle Chris Podcast. My Uncle Chris was a real character, a garbage truck driver from South Carolina who is now buried in Panama City alongside the founding families of Panama. He also happens to be responsible for the craziest night of my life. Wild stories about adventure, romance, crime, history and war intertwine as I share the tall tales and hard truths that have helped me understand Uncle Chris. Listen now to Uncle Chris on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
[42:46]
Bobby Bones
I'm Jeff Perelman. And I'm Rick Jervis. We're journalists and hosts of the podcast Finding Sexy Sweat.
[42:51]
Ian Pfaff
At an internship in 1993, we roomed with Reggie Payne, aspiring reporter and rapper.
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Bobby Bones
Who went by Sexy Sweat a couple years ago. We set out to find him, but in 2020, Reggie fell into a coma.
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Ian Pfaff
After police pinned him down and he never woke up.
[43:04]
Bobby Bones
But then I see my son's not moving. So we started digging and uncovered city officials bent on protecting their own.
[43:10]
Ian Pfaff
Listen to finding Sexy Sweat on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
[43:16]
Unknown Speaker
This is an iHeart podcast.

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Podcast Summary: The Bobby Bones Show, Episode #524

Title: Bobby Believes He is Being Blackballed from DWTS + Celebrities Who Have Been Blackballed Over the Years + Round 2 of Fan Q&A: What Drives Bobby to Succeed? And More + Lionel Richie Invited Bobby to One of His Shows!

Release Date: July 8, 2025

1. Bobby's Alleged Blackballing from "Dancing with the Stars" (DWTS)

Bobby Bones opens the episode by expressing his belief that he has been blackballed from the popular TV show "Dancing with the Stars" despite being a former champion. He shares his personal experiences and observations that led him to this conclusion.

Bobby Bones [01:47]: "I don't have official paperwork. I don't have a signed letter. There's been no big public announcement about this. But in my opinion... I do believe that I've been blackballed from Dancing with the Stars."
Bobby Bones [02:25]: "I was the greatest dance champion ever, but I was not a great dancer. I was a great vote getter."

He reflects on his time on the show, highlighting his dedication despite a hectic schedule that included training, touring, and stand-up performances. Bobby also mentions his partner, Sharna, who faced similar exclusion post their championship win.

2. Celebrities Who Have Been Blackballed

Bobby delves into a comprehensive list of celebrities who have faced blackballing, elucidating the reasons and consequences of their exclusion from various platforms.

a. Sinead O'Connor

Bobby Bones [03:15]: "She rips the picture and says, 'Fight the real enemy.'"

Sinead O'Connor's controversial performance on "Saturday Night Live" in 1992, where she tore a picture of Pope John Paul II, led to her being banned from the show, significantly impacting her career despite her musical prowess.

b. Martin Lawrence

Bobby Bones [04:30]: "He goes off script in his monologue... extended rant about women's hygiene."

Martin Lawrence's 1994 "SNL" hosting stint ended abruptly due to his graphic and off-script monologue, resulting in an unofficial blacklist that lasted over two decades.

c. Elvis Presley

Bobby Bones [05:50]: "CBS refused to show him from the waist down because his hips were basically sex on black and white television."

Elvis faced censorship on "The Ed Sullivan Show" for his provocative dance moves, initially limiting his performances until declining censorship increased his legendary status.

d. Madonna

Bobby Bones [07:00]: "The Vatican condemned it immediately, which again, once they did that, it just made it bigger."

Madonna's "Like a Prayer" and subsequent "Blonde Ambition" tour faced backlash from the Vatican, leading to boycotts but ultimately amplifying her fame and rebellious image.

e. Pete Rose

Bobby Bones [09:10]: "He has admitted he's betting on baseball. He lobbied for reinstatement... but now that he's died, he's allowed to be up for the Hall of Fame."

Pete Rose, MLB's all-time hits leader, was banned for life due to gambling scandals but posthumously became eligible for the Hall of Fame.

f. Tonya Harding

Bobby Bones [11:00]: "She was banned for life by the US Figure Skating Association. No Olympics."

Tonya Harding's involvement in the attack on Nancy Kerrigan led to a lifetime ban from competitive figure skating, overshadowing her athletic achievements.

g. Ron Artest (Metta World Peace)

Bobby Bones [12:45]: "He was suspended for 86 games after the Malice at the Palace."

Ron Artest's infamous brawl in 2004 resulted in the longest suspension in NBA history, prompting significant changes in league policies.

h. The Rolling Stones

Bobby Bones [14:00]: "They were blacklisted from entire cities due to how rowdy their fans would get."

The Rolling Stones faced bans in various cities during the late '60s and early '70s, which only enhanced their reputation as symbols of rebellion.

i. Justin Bieber

Bobby Bones [15:25]: "China banned him in 2017 citing 'bad behavior' including public outbursts and drag racing."

Despite his global fame, Justin Bieber remains banned from entering China, affecting his international presence.

j. Oasis

Bobby Bones [16:40]: "They were banned from Cathay Pacific flights and MTV for on-stage antics and off-stage sibling rivalries."

Oasis faced multiple bans due to the infamous disagreements between the Gallagher brothers, which fueled their rock'n'roll image.

k. Hank Williams Sr.

Bobby Bones [18:30]: "He was banned from the Grand Ole Opry for missing performances and battling alcoholism, never returning before his untimely death."

Hank Williams Sr.'s struggles with personal issues led to his exclusion from the prestigious Grand Ole Opry, cutting short his influential career.

3. Fan Q&A: What Drives Bobby to Succeed?

In the second round of fan questions, Bobby addresses what motivates him to achieve and maintain his success.

a. Misconceptions About Success

Bobby Bones [28:20]: "Whatever's ingrained in you. Because in order to be wildly successful at something, first of all, there is a ton of sacrifice in other parts of your life."

He emphasizes that success often involves significant personal sacrifices and internal struggles, contrary to the common perception of effortless achievement.

b. Fear vs. Ambition

Bobby Bones [29:40]: "I think my ambition is created by fear. Fear and insecurity, much like that."

Bobby reveals that his drive stems more from fear and insecurity than pure ambition, highlighting his personal battles and how they've shaped his relentless pursuit of success.

4. Lionel Richie's Invitation and Personal Anecdotes

Bobby shares a heartfelt story about his interaction with Lionel Richie, detailing a memorable invitation to one of Richie's European shows.

Bobby Bones [33:15]: "I wrote a message on Instagram to Lionel Richie, and he responded the next day saying, 'Just tell me which show.'"

Despite initially committing to a European tour, Bobby recounts the humorous and unexpected turn of events leading to Lionel Richie personally inviting him to perform together in Copenhagen.

5. Weirdest and Funniest Fan Interactions

Bobby recounts some of the most bizarre and amusing encounters he's had with fans, primarily occurring in the most unexpected places.

Bobby Bones [37:10]: "The weirdest is probably in the bathroom. There have been multiple times where a dude has come up while I'm at the urinal and it's kind of weird."

From unexpected meet-and-greets in restrooms to fans approaching him in unusual circumstances, Bobby highlights the unique and humorous side of his interactions with admirers.

6. Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks

Wrapping up the episode, Bobby reflects on his journey, the challenges of being potentially blackballed, and his unwavering commitment to his career. He encourages listeners to engage with his content across various platforms, including YouTube channels like "Bobby Bones Channel" and "Bobby Bonesports."

Bobby Bones [40:55]: "I have five other questions that you guys have sent me since then. You can always DM Me questions. I think this is a fun way to kind of put a button on these episodes."

Bobby concludes with gratitude towards his audience, reaffirming his dedication to delivering engaging and authentic content.

Notable Quotes:

Bobby Bones [01:47]: "I do believe that I've been blackballed from Dancing with the Stars."
Bobby Bones [07:00]: "The Vatican condemned it immediately, which again, once they did that, it just made it bigger."
Bobby Bones [12:45]: "Ron Artest was suspended for the rest of the season. 86 games, the longest suspension for an on-court incident."
Bobby Bones [29:40]: "I think my ambition is created by fear. Fear and insecurity, much like that."

Conclusion

In this episode, Bobby Bones provides an insightful and candid exploration of the concept of blackballing in the entertainment world, both from his personal experiences and through the stories of various high-profile celebrities. Coupled with engaging fan interactions and personal anecdotes, Bobby offers listeners a comprehensive look into the challenges and motivations that drive success in the public eye.

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Bobby Bones
This is an I Heart podcast. Nourishes like a smoothie and sizzles like a smash burger. Easy to pick up and hard to put down. Made from plants and grills like beef. See, it's not. Or it's. And. And that's what I love about impossible. Just this weekend, a couple impossible burgers. Put them on the grill. Boom. Felt like I was having a cheat meal without the feeling of the guilt of a cheat meal. It's not just burgers. They got hot dogs, chicken. Everything you need for your summer menu. Look for the impossible red packaging at your grocery store today.
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Unknown Speaker
So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to.
[00:39]
There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond and.
[00:46]
Left a woman behind to drown.
[00:49]
Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family.
[00:58]
Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get podcast.
[01:08]
Ian Pfaff
My Uncle Chris was a real character, a garbage truck driver from South Carolina who is now buried in Panama City alongside the founding families of Panama. He also happens to be responsible for the craziest night of my life. Wild stories about adventure, romance, crime, history and war intertwine as I share the tall tales and hard truths that have helped me understand Uncle Chris. Listen now to Uncle Chris on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
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Bobby Bones
So I wanted to do this bobbycast about being blackballed and celebrities that have been either kicked out of places or blackballed from things, because I do think that's what's happened to me. Now, I don't have official paperwork. I don't have a signed letter. There's been no big public announcement about this. But in my opinion, and that opinion is based on some facts, some vibes, some people that started suddenly pretending like I didn't exist. I do believe that I've been blackballed from Dancing with the Stars. This trophy right here, I'm the former champ. After I won the mirror ball, I guess they decided there's a do not invite back list and I'm on it. So I don't think it really even bothered me because I didn't notice it. Therefore, I never acknowledged it until somebody that works within the organization was like, hey, yeah, you don't get invited back. And I don't really know why.
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Unknown Speaker
So.
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Bobby Bones
So I don't get invited back to the finales. I don't get invited to even stand in the crowd awkwardly and clap in sequins like some of the people do. And some of my friends that have been on the show do get invited back. They haven't even won the show. I have been back two times and that was because I had a friend on the show. And that's because I called them and said, hey, I'm coming back. And so look, I get it just on this show specifically. And I do have the mirror ball. If you're watching this on YouTube right here beside me. Just so you know, I'm not lying. I was the greatest dance champion ever, But I was not a great dancer. I was a great vote getter. And maybe that messed up their whole system. In fact, it did because they changed the rules the season right after I left to make sure that good people wouldn't get kicked off the show. But I do feel a that I loved my time on the show. It was awesome. I do feel like I was the least difficult person to work with on the show. I think generally I'm a very easy person to work with. I mean, heck, on that show, I was gone half the time. I was either training in Nashville and the show shoots in LA and I would get back in time to do the show, or I was on the road on the weekends because the show shot on Monday and I would tour and do stand up Friday night and Saturday night and get back to Los Angeles. I mean, my partner, Sharna, Listen, I don't know why, but she wasn't even on the show for years after we won. I think this is the first year she finally gets to go back. So if you've ever been politely ghosted by ballroom dance, I know your pain. Because I do feel like I've been blackballed from Dancing with the Stars. But this episode isn't all about that. But it's kind of what inspired me to do this episode. So today we're diving into some of the other famous people who've been banned or booted or blackballed or just kicked out or however you want to describe it. Because if I'm going down, I'm going down with Elite Company. And let's start. I think I have 11 of these. It's a weird number. I have oddly numbered list all the time. At number 11, Sinead O'. Connor. The date was October 3, 1992. Sinead O'. Connor. Performed Bob Marley's War on Saturday Night Live. Now, that's not a song that I know super well. I know. Don't worry about a thing. I know that one. I know Three Little Birds. Is that the same song I was just singing? No. So she's performing, and it's an acapella performance. And at the end of her performance, she holds up a picture of Pope John Paul II and she rips it in half on live television. I was not watching when she did this, but I have seen the clip a bunch of times. In 1992, I was 12. I don't think I knew anything one about Bob Marley or really Sinead O'. Connor. And I think I was just now getting into snl. And also, if you didn't watch it live, you kind of didn't see it back then. It wasn't like now, where everything lives online. But she rips that picture in half and says, fight the real enemy. And what she was doing was protesting child abuse in the Catholic Church. This is years before the scandals that we know now were widely publicized. So NBC was crushed with complaints. Lorne Michaels banned her from returning to Saturday Night Live, and that pretty much derailed her US Career. Now, she was seen as being ahead of her time because years later, you know what happens? All that crap comes out about all those priests that were touching kids. Yeah, that's exactly what happened. Exactly what she was talking about. She rips the picture and says, no, let's not let this happen. But she was kicked off, and she ultimately lost her career because of it. I think you would know her from one song. Nothing compares to you. There's a. Actually a Prince song that she sang and made a massive hit, but that was it. She was kicked off SNL and basically didn't have a chance to be a pop star in America. Next up, and we can do SNL again is Martin Lawrence. 1994, he was hosting SNL. He goes off script in his monologue, and it's very graphic. And it was an extended rant about women's hygiene, specifically vaginal odor, you know, and in the 90s, I mean, even today on SNL, you'd be like, what's even happening there in the 90s? Even weirder, because nobody did that. NBC obviously freaked out. They cut the monologue from their reruns, and they put him on an unofficial blacklist, and he didn't return to the show for over 20 years. The incident became legendary because again, here's SNL again, telling somebody else, you can't come on. But it also felt like Martin Lawrence was testing how far he could go. And, yeah, he found the line. I've done that a few times where you're like, I wonder. And then you find the line real quick. Another time that I was kicked out of somewhere was, this is probably early 2000s. I went to Texas State University to speak to a class about radio and television broadcasting. And I went specifically into the radio class, and there's probably about 30 kids there. And they were all asking questions. And I remember saying to them, hey, look, if you're in college just to study radio, you're wasting your time. Like, either get started working for real. Like, if this is what you want to do, get started working for real, because you don't need college. But if you're in college, that's great. I didn't, you know, I didn't know anybody. None of my family went to college. I wanted to be the first person to graduate college. And if you're in college for that reason, that's awesome. But find a different thing to get your degree in. So I go and I give this speech. And I felt like I was pretty real with them. I was like, if you're studying radio, don't study radio. Get that in the real world. But if you want to stay in college, learn something else that can be something you can fall back on. About a week later, I got a letter in the mail, the actual physical mail sent to the radio station saying I was never invited back to speak at Texas State University. Pretty much Martin Lawrence and the vaginal odor. That's very similar things there. Elvis Presley was censored on the Ed Sullivan Show. Elvis performed in 1956. You've probably seen the clips. CBS refused to show him from the waist down because his hips was basically sex on black and white television. Vulgar. That's what they said. Like the TV Guide. Remember when that was a thing? But Ed Sullivan had said he was not going to book Elvis at all. But he did want the ratings. And so Elvis comes on dances, they don't show below his hips. He comes on again. They're like, dude, you got to chill out a little bit. He doesn't chill out. They're like, we're never going to invite him back. But the ratings, like I said, have been going up and up. So they had him back, and they showed full body. And the thing about censoring somebody is once people find out somebody's being censored, they really want to see what's being kept from them. So once they showed Elvis in full body. Like, part of his appeal was, we're not supposed to see this. And he kept doing it. And that's kind of what we know Elvis for. If you were doing an impression, it involves a lot of hip gyration. Well, and lip like this. This is not a good example of me doing the lip, but that kind of. That looks like I'm having a seizure. The visual. Amazing. Madonna was banned from the Vatican. In 1989, Madonna released Like a Prayer, which showed her kissing a saint, dancing in front of burning crosses, and basically challenging a lot of Catholic imagery. The Vatican condemned it immediately, which again, once they did that, it just made it bigger. I think that's something you're also going to see is that once people publicly say, yep, that's true, we no longer allow you or we no longer want you to do A, B, C or D, then whatever they're not wanted to do actually becomes bigger and more meaningful. Her 1990 Blonde Ambition tour, she had that. And Pope John Paul II called for a boycott of her concerts in Italy, accusing her of satanic behavior. And you know, what Madonna did, she just did more because she knew all the press it was bringing to her shows. And so that kind of made her into the massive pop star that she was. Yep, you gotta have talent. Yep. The timing's gotta be right, but also if the right people push against you and you push back, you're even bigger because of it. And so you saw that happen to Madonna, and she's one of the biggest pop stars in the history of, you know, American pop music. We can talk about Pete Rose, who forever was banned from the Baseball hall of Fame. Now this is a bit different because he now is not banned from the hall of Fame. He's not in yet, but once he died, he's now allowed to be in. So he's baseball's all time hits leader. 4,256 hits. He was banned for life in 1989 because there was an investigation into him betting on games while being a manager of a team. That team was Cincinnati Reds. And he said he never bet against his team because that'd be cheating. Right. Because if you bet against your team, you can actually make decisions to make your team lose. Therefore you would make more money. But because you're a manager and you're betting and you obviously have insider information, even if you're betting on your team to win or you're betting on other teams, once he admitted to the gambling, they were like, you're out, you're done. So he has admitted he's signed a bunch of balls. I'm sorry, I bet on baseball. He lobbied for reinstatement. Very divisive figure. While he was alive and forever, the hall of Fame refused to consider him. But just even a few weeks ago, they have now said now that he's died, he can be up for the Baseball hall of Fame, which is kind of crazy. Like, if you're going to let him be, I don't know, can you, like, deathbed him? Like a special rule where if someone's dying and it's close, you, like, throw them in real quick. But, yeah, he'll never get to see that. That's crazy. Tonya Harding was banned for life from US figure skating. Now we'll go back to the 90s for this one. In 1994, Tonya Harding's ex husband, Jeff Gillooly, and her bodyguard, they attacked Nancy Kerrigan. Nancy Kerrigan was her skating rival. They were both from the United States. They were both going to go to the Olympics. And they later did go to the Olympics. Nancy Kerrigan did. I believe Kerrigan ended up bronzing. But they popped Nancy Kerrigan in the leg. They clubbed her in the knee with, like, a stick. So she was unable to compete. And like the US Championship, one of the US Ones. So Tonya Harding denied knowing in advance that it was happening, but evidence showed that she knew after. But she was never found guilty of being a part of actually planning or clubbing Nancy Kerrigan in the knee. Which, by the way, if you've never seen, I think it's I. Tonya with Margot Robbie. You should watch that. It's awesome. Like, Margot Robbie kind of kills it. I think Tonya Harding did Dancing with the Stars, too. Justice for Tonya Harding. Now, I don't know about justice, but she pled guilty to hindering prosecution. She was banned for life by the US Figure Skating Association. No Olympics. I do think, though, that Nancy Kerrigan bronzed Brandon, will you look that up for me? See if Nancy Kerrigan medaled in that. Tonya Harding was all over the tabloids. And then I. Tonya was nominated for an Oscar way later on Ron Artest. If we're staying in the athletic world, he was suspended 86 games. Now, he wasn't kicked out of anything for life or black ball, but this is a massive suspension. If we go back to 2004, the malice at the palace, there's a documentary on Netflix. You should watch that if you don't remember the game. And we probably weren't watching the game live as it happened because you're talking about just a regular NBA regular season game. And so this happens as Pacers and Pistons and there are people, they're fighting the fans. It is unbelievable. Like when this is over or pause this, go look at the clips of Malice in the Palace. So a fan threw a drink at Ron Artest as it was going down and he charges into the stands. I'm talking about swinging hard. Players are fighting. Players are fighting. Fans, fans are throwing stuff. Ron Artest was suspended for the rest of the season. 86 games, the longest suspension for an on court incident. It changed league policies. Security increased, still has increased. Alcohol sales were reduced. Like there's a cutoff point. And that was to a time when NBA image control became a priority. Dude, it's crazy to look back at. And now they've also done documentaries with the players talking about that night. And they're all. They all get along now, pretty much. Brandon, what do you see? She won silver seven weeks after the attack. Nancy Kerrigan won silver seven weeks. Hey, better than bronze by one. And there's your fact of the night. The silver is better than bronze by one. Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.
[15:36]
Unknown Speaker
So what happened to Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to.
[15:40]
There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond and.
[15:46]
Left a woman behind to drown.
[15:49]
There's a famous headline, I think in the New York Daily News, it's Teddy escapes, blonde drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you the story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become president?
[16:03]
Kappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control.
[16:08]
And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal.
[16:11]
The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs, violence, you name it. So is there a curse? Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family.
[16:21]
Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
[16:32]
Ian Pfaff
My Uncle Chris is definitely somebody worth talking about. He was the kind of guy that used Confederate flags as window curtains, lived in a trailer with an ex con and a retired stripper. Left loaded machine guns laying around, drank a bottle of whiskey a night, claimed he could kill a man with his bare hands, drove a garbage truck for a living, spoke fluent Spanish with a thick southern accent, and is currently buried in a crypt Alongside the founding families of Panama. Listen to the Uncle Chris podcast to hear all about him and a whole lot more. This collection of stories will make you laugh. It'll make you cry. And if I do my job right, they'll let you see the world and your place in it in a whole new way. I can't wait to tell you all about Uncle Chris. Listen now to Uncle Chris on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
[17:26]
Unknown Speaker
From iheart Podcasts and Rococo Punch. This is the Turning River Road.
[17:32]
I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life what that meant.
[17:43]
In the woods of Minnesota, a cult leader married himself to 10 girls and forced them into a secret life of abuse.
[17:51]
Why did I think that way? Why did I allow myself to get so sucked in by this man and thinking to the point that if I died for him, that would be the greatest honor?
[18:01]
But in 2014, the youngest of the girls escaped and sparked an international manhunt.
[18:08]
For all those years, you know, he was the predator and I was the prey. And then he became the prey.
[18:17]
Listen to the Turning river road on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
[18:31]
Bobby Bones
And we're back on the Bobbycast. The Rolling Stones were banned from complete cities in the late 60s and early 70s. The Rolling Stones were blacklisted from entire cities due to how rowdy their fans would get. Also drug busts and arrests. We can go to Boston. 1972. The mayor was threatening to cancel their show because of fan riots in New York City. There were drug arrests and they had been suspected of incitement of rowdy crowds. Really, the Rolling Stones were just a symbol of anti establishment and rebellion through music. And that was a time when there was a lot of anti establishment sentiment. And I think that also helped fuel their mystique because these politicians, which are just like white dudes with insecurity issues, saying we don't like the Rolling Stones. It made people love the Rolling Stones even more. Justin Bieber was banned from China in 2017. China's mystery of Culture cited Bieber with quote, bad behavior, with quote, bad behavior and a need to purify the entertainment environment. And that included public outbursts. Shirtless annex at the Great Wall because he's up on the wall, but he was shirtless a lot. I guess you just don't do that on the Great Wall. He also was caught drag racing In Miami. But that's not even China. But China has not lifted the ban as of right now of Justin Bieber from their country. Oasis was banned from a specific airline and from MTV for a long time. They're back together now, which is pretty cool, but those guys hated each other. But the Gallagher brothers were a disaster. They were kicked off a Cathay Pacific flight in 1998. Liam was smoking drunk and harassing passengers, so the airline banned them. I've not heard of that airline, but it's pretty baller to be banned by an entire airline. Also, it's funny that they were harassing the passengers. It wasn't the passengers harassing them for, like, an autograph. He was so messed up, apparently, allegedly, that he was harassing the people on the plane. We can also go to 1996 MTV Unplugged. Noel agreed to play without Liam because Liam pulled out last minute, because Liam was like, my throat hurts. And then you may have seen the video where Liam is then in the balcony, like, heckling the crowd and his brother on stage. So his throat wasn't hurting that bad. But they were banned from MTV for that. They were banned from multiple UK festivals. They would walk off of shows all the time. But again, because it was so shared when there wasn't social media and shared equaled celebrated. It made them so known. And once they were so known, usually you liked their music, they made great music. And so they were adored. They were hated a little, but mostly they were adored. And I thought it was pretty cool that Oasis announced they're getting back together. Imagine all the millions of dollars they gave up by just being brothers who didn't want to talk to each other. I have one other one, and it's Hank Williams Sr. Who was banned from the Grand Ole Opry. Yeah, I'm talking about the Hank Williams. Like, if you were to do a Mount Rushmore of country artists in the history of country music, Hank Williams would be one of the people you'd put up there. Well, for most people, you know, you're cheating. Hart, that guy, he pretty much built the Opry stage with his sound, and then he got banned in 1952, Hank was the biggest star in country music. But behind the scenes, he was what a lot of artists at that time were. And that was struggling, alcoholism, chronic back pain. And now, and we know this now because we have more knowledge of the situation, mental health issues. So he would play the Opry, but then he started missing Opry performances. And then when he would show up, a lot of the time, he would show up drunk or just wouldn't show up at all. The Opry, known back then for being very strict and for being squeaky clean, had a three strikes and you're out energy. So they fired him and straight up banned him and told him, don't come back until you get sober. And he never made it back. He died a year later at the age of 29 in the backseat of a Cadillac. He never stepped foot on the Opry stage again. Now, decades later, there were petitions and campaigns to reinstate him after his death, but the Opry never officially lifted the ban, because to be a member of the Opry, you've got to be alive. So you can't really put someone dead in the Opry based on the current Opry rules. So he died banned from the Grand Ole Opry. So that whole situation became a symbol of how strict the rules were back then and how those same rules cost country music, really one of country music's brightest lights, which was Hank Senior, you know, one of the people that made country music super famous. So what I'm saying by all that is, I'm basically like all those people. I'm just like, Hank Senior, Ron Artest, Sinead o', Connor, Oasis, and Justin Bieber. That's right. And I know I've not been banned officially from Dancing with the Stars, but when you go from winning a national TV show to, you know, not even getting a. Like, when you post a funny comment on the Dancing with the Stars Instagram page, you know what's up. And you know what? I'm fine with it. I never even would have thought about it until someone called to tell me. I didn't even realize I was banned until someone called to say, hey, you're banned. I don't need the glitter under my eyes. I don't need the tutu that I wore. I just need this trophy right here. And you know what? I have it. It's the people's trophy right there. But if they ever want to do a redemption season for people who were quietly banned, I'm ready to cha cha. I'm ready to get back in it. No, I was pretty terrible. But that's the homework I put into me getting what I think is banned from Dancing with the Stars. See, that's what I'm motivated by when people tell me that you can't do that anymore. I appreciate all the feedback from the last episode that I did by myself here, and I have five other questions that you guys have sent me since then. You can always DM Me questions. I think this is a fun way to kind of put a button on these episodes. Number one, Dear Bobby, what do people assume about your success? That isn't true. And I won't just assign this to whatever success that I've had, but I will assign this to athletic success, success in the business world. And I think, you know, I'll talk to Eddie or some of my other friends about this and they'll go, well, that quarterback won a Super Bowl. He's probably good. Like, he's probably checking out now. And I think my statement back to them is whatever's ingrained in you. Because in order to be wildly successful at something, first of all, there is a ton of sacrifice in other parts of your life. Secondly, whatever screw is loose has got to be the right screw. But that screw doesn't screw itself back in after you've made it. There really isn't a finish line for somebody who's already mentally unstable. And that's what wildly successful people are for the most part. Like, there's something missing in the lives of those people that they feel they have to make up for through whatever they're trying to have success in. And for me, it's been whatever radio, podcast, spoken word, books, whatever that case is. And I think the most misunderstood thing is that you just get to a point and then once you reach that point, you're like, I'm all good now. I think I'm going to coast. If anything, it's the opposite, because you get to the point and you start to be scared that it was a fluke or people think it's a fluke or it's not going to last, or you're becoming irrelevant. So I think that's probably the most misunderstood thing about success, especially in the entertainment world or in the athletic world, sports, that you get to a point, you crush it and you're like, well, I got there, I'm good now. Because if anything, I think it's very much the opposite of that. Next up. Hey, Bobby, do you think you're more driven by fear or ambition? I think my ambition is created by fear. Fear and insecurity, much like that. First question, I think most of what I do is fear based. I think any success I've had has been fear based success. I think my fear comes from growing up very poor, moving around a whole lot, living in a trailer park, not being able to have three meals a day every day, sometimes not seeing an adult for a few days. You know, when you're 10, 11, 12 years old, you Kind of having to figure it out yourself. And so I think a lot of my I'm going to be successful started with I'm going to get the heck out of here. And how do you get out of here? It is to be extremely disciplined. I think discipline and consistency are the two hardest things. I never really try to be dynamic. If it happens, that's awesome. But you can't remain dynamic forever or all the time. What you can do pretty much all the time is be consistent and have discipline. Like, that's the real success. I don't need somebody that's, like amazing some and then pretty crappy other times and kind of met others. Even for people that I work with, like, if they're not consistent, they're not going to be a part of the team. And I'm not looking for A plus efforts followed by a C and then maybe an F and back to an A. I don't care about that. If it's B's all the time, that's awesome. As long as you're giving me solid B's and solid effort all the time. But I would say I'm driven far more by fear and insecurity, or at least was still am, but it used to be really like running on red. You know, you get in the car. I don't. But you know how you see in movies where people hit the gas and it goes over to the red? I think that's what the first 37 years of my life were, just on red the entire time. And when you're on red, because I've seen it in television, on the movies, boom. Sometimes it blows up. And I've had a couple of those. The Bobby cast. We'll be right back.
[28:56]
Unknown Speaker
So what happened to Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to.
[29:00]
There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond and.
[29:06]
Left a woman behind to drown.
[29:09]
There's a famous headline, I think, in the New York Daily News, it's, teddy Escapes Blonde Drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you the story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become President?
[29:23]
Kappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control.
[29:28]
And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal.
[29:31]
The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs, violence, you name it. So is there a curse? Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family.
[29:42]
Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.
[29:52]
Ian Pfaff
My Uncle Chris is definitely somebody worth talking about. He was the kind of guy that lived in a trailer with an ex con and a retired stripper, left loaded machine guns laying around, drank a bottle of whiskey a night, claimed he could kill a man with his bare hands, drove a garbage truck for a living, spoke fluent Spanish with a thick southern accent, and is currently buried in a crypt alongside the founding families of Panama. Listen to the Uncle Chris podcast to hear all about him and a whole lot more. Wild stories about adventure, romance, crime, history and war intertwine as I share the tall tales and hard truths that have helped me understand Uncle Chris. This collection of stories will make you laugh, it'll make you cry, and if I do my job right, they'll let you see the world and your place in it in a whole new way. I can't wait to tell you all about Uncle Chris. Listen now to Uncle Chris on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts.
[30:54]
Unknown Speaker
From iheart Podcasts and Rococo Punch. This is the Turning River Road.
[30:59]
I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life what that meant.
[31:11]
In the woods of Minnesota, a cult leader married himself to 10 girls and forced them into a secret life of abuse.
[31:18]
Why did I think that way? Why did I allow myself to get so sucked in by this man and thinking to the point that if I died for him, that would be the greatest honor?
[31:29]
But in 2014, the youngest of the girls escaped and sparked an international manhunt.
[31:36]
For all those years, you know, he was the predator and I was the prey. And then he became the prey.
[31:45]
Listen to the Turning river road on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
[31:59]
Bobby Bones
This the Bobbycast. Next up, what's the weirdest or funniest fan interaction you've ever had? Well, when it comes to people saying what's up? I love it because that means you appreciate or consume something that I do. But I think the weirdest is probably in the bathroom. There have been multiple times where a dude has come up while I'm at the urinal and it's kind of weird in the bathroom anyway because that's such a odd, personal, vulnerable place, but especially when your junk is out. And I also realize no one's coming up to me because they see my junk and they Want to see my junk? But mostly it's like, oh, dude, Bobby, what's up? And I literally got it in my hand. So that's weird. Once I was at a urinal, and there's a urinal right next to a stall. And the stall, obviously there's a wall and there's a commode because that's why there's the stall. But the dude stands on the commode, looks over and goes, bobby Bones, I knew that was you. And as he looks over, I mean, you're looking right down on my ding a ling. So that's probably the weirdest. I think if I were to list 1, 2, and 3, all three would be in a public bathroom somewhere. But I appreciate the love and I know it's never on purpose. Two more questions. Hey, Bobby, do you think reality TV helps or hurts someone's career? It's funny because they did not know we were doing this episode on how I've been blackballed. Allegedly. I think it used to be double edged, and I think it used to be held against people, especially in the world that we live in, a country of music and in Nashville, because they would come off the Voice or American Idol and people would look at them as just a reality contestant who's now trying to make it. But now nothing matters. And I say that in a great way, like, nothing matters, but everything matters. But nothing matters so much that it alone is going to make or break someone's career. So when people say, hey, should I go on a show? For me, it's yeah, because you're just exposing yourself to more people. And I think now in the four years that I was on American Idol, they don't force you into contracts anymore. If you get to a certain point, you don't have to sign this major deal with them. Where back in the day day when those shows were killing, if you made it to a certain point, you were then signed. You were obligated to be with whatever that entity was. I know there were certain people during the American Idol days, back way before I was on, when it was like a monster. They would leave, like, right as they got in the top 12 because they did not want to be bound to whatever that agreement was. That doesn't happen anymore. And the main reason it doesn't happen anymore is because people just won't go on the show. If you're thinking about it, you're like, I don't know, do I want to do this? And then you see, well, if I make it, I then have to sign with this management or this label, that's going to cut down 80% of the people that would even think about doing the show. So what I would say is, dude, go get on it. Get on everything. Because the more things you get on, the more people can see you. And it's all about building your base. The people that are going to come to your shows are going to buy your merch. That's it. And those shows will do that now. And you know, if you look back too, I think just about everyone has tried at some point to get on one of those shows. If you're an artist now and you've been in the game for 10 years or less, you probably either tried to get on and didn't got on and got kicked off early or got on and did okay. Morgan Wallen was on the Voice. He's like singing pop songs with like longer ish hair. I think Maren Morris talks about how she got rejected for Idol. I think Hillary Scott from Lady A. Same thing, like tried out for American Idol and didn't get it. And it's always usually like, wow, look how terrible Idol was or is. But mostly those shows are TV shows. They're looking for kinds of artists and they need to fill certain buckets. And then also it's mostly just like low level producers doing those entry rounds where they just watch a bunch of people sing. And like the people that kind of sound good they put through, they may not even understand what they're looking at. So it's very low level people in those early rounds that are watching all the singers and then they have like 5,000 singers a day. So people are bound to slip through the cracks. All right, that's it. We did it again. We did it again. Who's that? We did it again. I want to tell you a quick story. So I was on Instagram the other night. It was about 2:30 in the morning. I have trouble sleeping. So when I wake up now, I know my body enough that's like, if I wake up at 2, 2:30 in the morning, just get up, go into the kitchen, eat some cereal, restart, then get back into bed. I tried for a long time just to keep my eyes shut and just like, come on, we can go back to sleep. That never works. And having had dealt with these issues now for probably two years, what works for me best is almost going like, all right, here we go. I'm up. Let's start over and let's rewind down. But the problem is I'm not always in my right mind Whenever it's 2:30 in the morning because I've awoken right in the middle of sleep. I'm still kind of tired, but I'm not so sleepy that I fall asleep, but my brain's not on full capacity. And so I end up writing things or buying things. Like I bought some. Some stuff that we opened up here on the sports YouTube page, like autographed baseballs. And it all came back as garbage. But I spent like close to $1,000 on all this stuff and none of it was good. But I was on Instagram and I saw Lionel Richie post that. He's doing all these shows. And I'm like, dude, I'm in. I got to come to one of these shows. I wrote that in a message on Instagram story to Lionel Richie. And he responded the next day because he does his own social media, at least reads it. And he goes, just tell me which show. And I go back and I look at it and the entire show list is all European shows. So he's in Europe for like the next two months. And now I've committed to go watch Lionel Richie in Europe. And I love Lionel and I know Lionel, and Lionel has been awesome to me in my career, especially on American Idol. He was great. So kind of. But his manager reached out to was like, hey, Lionel says you want to come to one of his shows in Europe? Like, tell us what show. Lionel would love to see you. Let's go. And I'm like, oh, no. I just committed to going to Europe to watch Lionel Richie. I wish I could go in America to watch Lionel Richie. Then he sent me a message last night. He goes, how about Copenhagen? And I'm like, I don't dip. That's not what he meant. He wanted me to come to Copenhagen. I knew what he meant. I was just kind of kidding. So now I've got to decide if I'm going to go to Europe to watch Lionel Richie do a concert, which I would love to do. I tried to go watch him once in Hawaii because American Idol would send us out every year to Hawaii. We would work from the Disney resort. And it was one of the stages before the top 12. So I went from like 40 to 12. So every year. And that is a long trip from Nashville. It is a long trip. For two of those trips, I think I flew Delta. Later on, Luke, Brian and I would fly private and we would go out together. And that was pretty baller, not going to lie to you. But for the first couple of years, I'd fly Delta And I remember Lionel saying, hey, I'm going to do a show before we start shooting Idol in Hawaii. You should come out. So I left a day early. I'm going out. I get on the flight, and because Idol was paying for it, it was first class. And I'm sitting in the first class seat, and I start to feel terrible. And I tell the flight attendant, hey, I'm not feeling very good. Do you have any, like, Advil? My head was killing me. And so she gives me stuff. I'm drinking a bunch of water, but I just feel it, like, come over me. And so I go into the bathroom, and I vomit hard into the toilet in the bathroom. And I'm like, boy, this is not good. I go back to my seat, My head's still killing me. And I say, hey, just keep the waters coming. I need a blanket. I'm, like, freezing at the same time. Back to the bathroom. I'm vomiting again. At this point, I realize I'm gonna be in the bathroom for a long time because I'm just not feeling good and vomiting every two or three minutes. But I'm also in, like, a airplane bathroom. So as I'm vomiting and as I'm sitting there, because when you vomit, too, you're also like. You're out of breath. You're feeling disgusting. I'm also scrubbing the bathroom with wet paper towels. Because if I'm going to be trapped in there, I don't be laying in everybody's pee. And so I was probably in that bathroom for, like, 50 minutes. And I remember as I was sitting on the floor, opening that bathroom door. And imagine you're a flight attendant, and you see some guy's head down at the bottom of the bathroom door. And I put my head. I'm like, hey, I'm going to be here for a while. I'm pretty sick. But when I left cleanest bathroom in the history Delta, that's what I heard. Now, that's what I made up. But I did not get to go to the Lionel show because as soon as I landed, I went to bed and I was sick for that day and then got to go shoot. So maybe I should go to Europe. But, man, that is a long flight. I do love Lionel. All right, that is it. Thank you, guys. Appreciate you. Please subscribe to the YouTube channel. It's Bobby Bones Channel. If you want to watch these videos. Cause we put them up. You can see my mirror ball with me right here. Also, if you want to subscribe to the sports stuff, it's Bobby Bonesports. That's over on YouTube as well. Thank you guys for being here and we will see you guys next time. I won't say next week, but next time. All right, bye everybody. Thanks for listening to a BobbyKast production.
[41:38]
Unknown Speaker
So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to.
[41:42]
There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond and.
[41:48]
Left a woman behind to drown.
[41:51]
Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family.
[42:01]
Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
[42:11]
Ian Pfaff
I'm Ian Pfaff, the creator and host of the Uncle Chris Podcast. My Uncle Chris was a real character, a garbage truck driver from South Carolina who is now buried in Panama City alongside the founding families of Panama. He also happens to be responsible for the craziest night of my life. Wild stories about adventure, romance, crime, history and war intertwine as I share the tall tales and hard truths that have helped me understand Uncle Chris. Listen now to Uncle Chris on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
[42:46]
Bobby Bones
I'm Jeff Perelman. And I'm Rick Jervis. We're journalists and hosts of the podcast Finding Sexy Sweat.
[42:51]
Ian Pfaff
At an internship in 1993, we roomed with Reggie Payne, aspiring reporter and rapper.
[42:55]
Bobby Bones
Who went by Sexy Sweat a couple years ago. We set out to find him, but in 2020, Reggie fell into a coma.
[43:01]
Ian Pfaff
After police pinned him down and he never woke up.
[43:04]
Bobby Bones
But then I see my son's not moving. So we started digging and uncovered city officials bent on protecting their own.
[43:10]
Ian Pfaff
Listen to finding Sexy Sweat on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
[43:16]
Unknown Speaker
This is an iHeart podcast.