Amy’s Weird Money Hack, Sleep Tricks, and One Question That Changes Everything

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Bobby Bones Show Episode: Amy’s Weird Money Hack, Sleep Tricks, and One Question That Changes Everything
Release Date: June 8, 2025

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1. Building Community Through Listener Support

[02:06] – [05:36] Amy and Kat open the episode by highlighting the importance of community and support among listeners. They discuss an email from Autumn, a listener who resonated with a previous episode about McKenzie's feelings surrounding pregnancy. Autumn shares a powerful quote:

"What's the best that could happen?"
– Autumn [05:18]

This quote serves as a reminder to shift focus from worst-case scenarios to positive possibilities, fostering a supportive environment for listeners facing similar challenges.

2. Acceptance and Personal Growth in Therapy

[05:36] – [11:04] Amy delves into her experiences as a therapist, emphasizing the significance of acceptance in personal growth. She recounts a transformative moment with a young client who struggled with negativity and depression. By changing her approach from asking what’s wrong to exploring what’s going well, Amy facilitates a breakthrough for her client. This shift not only aids the client but also changes Amy’s perspective on therapeutic interactions.

"I have never asked her once what she liked about her life. I only focused on the things that weren't going well. And a lot of those things were out of her control."
– Amy [09:03]

3. Shifting Mindsets: From Worst to Best Outcomes

[11:04] – [13:53] Kat shares a personal story about managing her boyfriend’s negative outlook during travel hassles. By encouraging him to identify positive aspects, she helps reset the conversation dynamics. This section underscores the impact of the questions we ask in relationships and how they shape our interactions.

"Let's focus on just tell me something that's going right for you right now."
– Kat [12:40]

4. Introducing "Finesse" and Language in Relationships

[13:53] – [23:35] Amy and Kat introduce the word "finesse" into their vocabulary, exploring its meaning and how to incorporate it into daily conversations. They discuss the importance of subtlety and smoothness in interactions, sharing anecdotes about attempting to use new words and phrases in social settings.

"Finesse means to do something in a subtle and delicate manner, intricate and refined delicacy."
– Amy [22:37]

5. Sleep Techniques: Mantras and Elevated Sleeping

[23:35] – [35:21] The conversation transitions to sleep strategies, where Amy introduces a list of calming mantras to aid in falling asleep. Kat adds her personal experiences with elevated sleeping positions, discussing the benefits for circulation and reducing morning puffiness.

Sleep Mantras:

• "I release the day with gratitude."
• "I don't need all the answers tonight."
• "I am proud of how far I've come."
• "I forgive myself and others."
• "I am safe."
• "I will wake up with greater clarity."

"I release the day with gratitude. I don't need all the answers tonight."
– Amy [29:28]

6. Exploring Subliminals for Personal Development

[35:21] – [33:11] Kat discusses her use of subliminal messages to improve her financial mindset. She explains how listening to subliminals before sleep and upon waking can influence subconscious beliefs, sharing both successes and the humorous side effects of misunderstood messages.

"You are a money magnet. You handle money with ease."
– Kat [31:15]

7. Managing Forgetfulness: Birthdays and ADHD Strategies

[35:21] – [42:59] Amy and Kat address the challenges of remembering important dates, particularly for those with ADHD. They share personal stories about forgetting birthdays and implementing strategies like scheduling texts and using calendars to stay organized, emphasizing the importance of understanding and compassion in friendships.

"Don't take it personally. It’s not a reflection on how much I care about you."
– Amy [41:37]

8. Historical Anecdote: Benjamin Franklin's Air Bathing

[42:59] – [49:26] The hosts explore an intriguing historical practice attributed to Benjamin Franklin—air bathing. They debate its benefits and practicality, comparing it to modern wellness trends like cold plunges and discussing its potential mental and physical health advantages.

"Benjamin Franklin preferred airbaths to actual water baths, believing they were a more effective and agreeable way to cleanse the body."
– Amy [44:40]

9. Addressing Unusual Health Concerns

[49:26] – [50:31] Kat brings up a curious case from a listener, Cryo Cat, who wakes up smelling like Indian food without any dietary changes. They speculate on possible causes, such as supplements or stress, and invite listeners to share similar experiences, fostering an open dialogue about unexplained health phenomena.

"Has anybody else had an issue where they wake up suddenly out of nowhere smelling like Indian food?"
– Kat [49:53]

10. Closing Remarks and Community Engagement

[50:31] – [53:09] Amy and Kat wrap up the episode by encouraging listeners to connect via social media and email. They reiterate the importance of pausing to feel and address both emotional and physical well-being, tying back to the episode’s themes of acceptance, mindset shifts, and personal growth.

"We hope that you will email us at [e-mail] and you can call and leave us a voicemail."
– Kat [50:41]

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Notable Quotes:

• "What's the best that could happen?"
  – Autumn [05:18]

• "I release the day with gratitude. I don't need all the answers tonight."
  – Amy [29:28]

• "Finesse means to do something in a subtle and delicate manner, intricate and refined delicacy."
  – Amy [22:37]

• "You are a money magnet. You handle money with ease."
  – Kat [31:15]

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Key Topics Covered:

• Building and nurturing a supportive community
• Acceptance and its role in personal growth and therapy
• The impact of language and mindset on relationships
• Practical sleep techniques and the benefits of elevated sleeping
• The use of subliminal messages for financial and personal development
• Strategies for managing forgetfulness, especially related to ADHD
• Exploration of historical wellness practices and their modern relevance
• Addressing unusual and unexplained health concerns

This episode provides a blend of personal anecdotes, practical advice, and engaging discussions, offering listeners valuable insights into managing emotions, relationships, and personal well-being.

Transcript

[Amy]

This is an I Heart podcast.

[Kat]

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[Narrator]

Presents 15 Seconds of Strength. Here we go. Steve's got a trunk full of groceries and no one to help him. Oh, that's tough. Jim looks like a five trip load at least. He grabs the first bag the second bob. It looks like he's trying to do it all in one trip. He shimmies the door open, steps over the dog. Oh, and he stumbles. Oh, right into the kitchen without missing a beat. Jim. Now that's a man who eats his protein packed Oikos. With 15 grams of complete protein in each cup. Oikos Triple Zero can help build strength for every day. Oikos stronger makes everything better.

[Kat]

1, 2, 3.

[Amy]

Hey.

[Kat]

Alright, break it down.

[Amy]

If you ever have feelings and you.

[Kat]

Just want some, maybe a cat got.

[Amy]

You covered like a nun on brother. Ladies and fellas, we just follow in the spirit where it tell us.

[Kat]

From the real stuff to the chill stuff and the in between, sometimes the best thing you can do is just stop and feel things.

[Amy]

This is Feeling Things with Amy and Kat.

[Kat]

Happy Tuesday. Welcome to Feeling Things. I'm Amy.

[Amy]

I'm Kat.

[Kat]

And we have a little something special for everybody today. Never done this before.

[Amy]

Never.

[Kat]

Never.

[Amy]

First time?

[Kat]

No. We have a hybrid situation.

[Amy]

Fusion.

[Kat]

Ah yeah. We don't really know what we're calling it, but it's when it's like if feeling of the day and email of the day had a baby.

[Amy]

That's what we're doing.

[Kat]

And we don't know how to combine the song, so we're just gonna sing them both. So get ready for our feeling of the day mixed with our email of the day. Okay. The reason why our feeling of the day and our email of the day had a little baby is because we got this email from Autumn and she is responding to a Couch talks that was sent in. We already aired it from McKenzie. She's pregnant and she's just feeling a little, like, not as excited as she thought she would feel. And she was feeling a little weird about that. And this has happened before, too. It's not just with Autumn and MacKenzie, but other people have emailed in to give advice or feedback or thoughts to other Couch Talks things. Which Couch Talks airs on Thursday. This is feeling things. We do this. It's our big show. Welcome to the big show on Tuesdays. And I love the emails that we get that are supporting our other listeners. And that for Kat and myself, just helps it feel more like a community, which is what we're trying to build. We want y' all to all feel connected, even though you're listening in different places all over the world.

[Amy]

All over the world.

[Kat]

I was going to say country, but then I feel like we do have one listener in Nigeria.

[Amy]

Really?

[Kat]

Yeah, I think I saw that.

[Amy]

Probably have one in the UK or Canada.

[Kat]

We had. Yeah, we have Canada. We have uk. We have more obvious countries. But when I saw a listener in Nigeria, I was like, interesting.

[Amy]

Wait, could that just be, like, a listener from Oklahoma that traveled to Nigeria?

[Kat]

Yes. Likely 100. Yes. Maybe they were just there on a trip and they downloaded it. Or this. They moved there on a. They're a missionary or they're deployed somewhere in Africa.

[Amy]

Worldwide.

[Kat]

Mr. 305 waiting for that. All right, so the feeling of the day is supported, and it's because of this email we got from Autumn. So do you see how we just had a.

[Amy]

A baby.

[Kat]

We merged. Here's the email that Autumn sent in. Hey, Amy and Kat. I listened to the Couch talks about McKenzie navigating feelings around a new pregnancy. I related to many of those feelings and her circumstances. I'm also a military family and a mom with a busy career. Something that helped me get through my fears early in pregnancy was the following quote, what's the best that could happen? My brain often jumps straight to the worst case scenarios and all the things that could go wrong. That quote, which I guess is also a question Is a nice reminder that things can also go right. Love y' all. So what's the best that could happen?

[Amy]

I love it.

[Kat]

And I love that she sent that in for mackenzie, and I love that we get to share it here on the big show and that we're all feeling supported. Hopefully Mackenzie hears that, and she feels supported. I feel supported.

[Amy]

I feel supported.

[Kat]

Yeah, we all. We all feel supported.

[Amy]

And this reminds me, it made me think about how even in training as a therapist, we're taught to ask, what's the worst that can happen? When somebody's struggling with something, we help them, well, what's the worst that can happen? Like, let's go through that. Versus framing their mind more towards the things that could go right. And that's something that I've had to work on as a therapist. Maybe in, like, 2017. I had a client who she was younger, maybe like 16, 17. And she would come in every single week and would. She had a hard life. She had a really rough home situation, Struggling in school with some things, struggling with some body image stuff. And every week when she would come in, I would ask her, like, how are these things going that she was struggling with? And it would always be really negative, and she would always be really, like, solemn and very depressed. And I noticed myself getting frustrated as a therapist, which for me was a red flag of I'm supposed to have this positive regard for my clients, and I shouldn't have this dread when I see a client on my schedule because she's not getting better, or I'm, like, not getting sick of hearing what she's saying, But I'm just like, oh, frustrated. So I was like, okay, what are you doing? Over and over again, that's not working. And kind of, how can you shift that? So one day she came in, and before I asked her, like, how are things going? We did our thing where I was like, how are things with your dad? And she was like, I hate him. I said, I'm not going to ask you about any of those things. I have a different question. She said, okay. I said, is anything going well for you? Is there anything about your life that you like? And she kind of just, like, looked at me funny, and I was like, shoot, okay. And she goes, actually, yes. And I said, okay. And she did a lot of art. She was an artist. And a lot of things that we talked about, she would ask to draw them or paint them. And so she said, can I show you instead of tell you? And I said, okay. So she got out my butcher paper and all, like, the art supplies. And she had me turn my back so I couldn't see it until she was done. So I couldn't, like, be peeking. So I turned my back for, like, 20 minutes. Then she said, okay, I'm done. And I turned around, and I still have this. I kept it, this, like, mural. It was on, like, big butcher paper. It was this mural of this girl. And then all of these things around her that she liked about herself. And I just kind of draw. My jaw kind of just dropped. I was like, what is this? And then she started telling me about all these things. If I like this and I like this, and this is going really well, and this is part of even think even. There are even parts of her body which she was struggling with body image, and she had an eating disorder, and there are parts of her own body that I had no idea that she really liked. And so she told me all about it. And then I looked at her and I said, why have you never told me about any of this stuff in your life? And she kind of paused. I wish I knew more about what she was thinking, but she just paused and she said, well, because you've never asked me. Oh. And I was like, wow. Yeah. I said, okay, you are right. I have never asked you about what you like about. That was eye opening for me as a therapist.

[Kat]

Probably changed how you.

[Amy]

Yes.

[Kat]

Do things.

[Amy]

I've. I never asked her once what she liked about her life. I only focused on the things that weren't going well. And a lot of those things were out of her control. Like, she can't control her mom, she can't control her dad, she can't control people at school versus what do you like? And what would happen if we started focusing on those things? And it made me think, yeah, the questions we ask are going to impact how we view things and where we go. So rather than always asking, well, what's the worst that can happen? Well, what's the best that could happen in this situation?

[Kat]

And also, just a reminder, too, of how we're interacting with people. Of, like, the questions we're asking them. Because, like, yeah, whatever y' all were focusing on in therapy, that was the version of her you were getting. And you were starting to be like, oh, yeah, I'm kind of dreading this. So even in our relationships, because not all of us are therapists. Right. Most of us aren't. But in our friendships or our partnerships or our work relationships, like, what are we doing to kind of lead conversation and things we may be frustrated with when it comes to other people, it's like, oh, wait, how have we contributed to that by the questions we're asking?

[Amy]

Yeah, we get stuck in the same routine, the same stuff. And I still have to. I love that that story is embedded in my brain forever, because that still happens where I get stuck in kind of a cycle with a client or a friend or somebody. Like, wait a second. I keep doing the same thing. So part of this is on me. If I keep asking somebody the same question about the same thing that they don't have control over, I'm probably gonna keep getting the same answer. So if we shift our vision a little bit, this might still be going on, but other things are happening, too. And it's not to, like. Cause I think sometimes bad. Yes, bad things are happening. And it's fair to be able to process that and feel that, but it's being able to hold both of those things. I didn't change her relationship with her dad, but we did spend more time focusing on the relationships in her life that were really good, and that shifted the way she felt walking around.

[Kat]

Yeah, it reminds me of a conversation I just had with my boyfriend. It's a little different, but it reminds me of it. So he was traveling and going to the airport, and I was on the phone with him, and right when he got to where he parks and, like, takes the shuttle, he was like, ugh, the shuttle isn't here. And then once the shuttle got there and he got to the airport, he was like, oh, my gosh, Remind me to never travel on this day at this time again, because it is just crazy. And then he's like, oh, my God. Like, it was, like, four things in a row. And he's not a negative person, but I happen to be in a very, like, positive mood. And so I just. I didn't want to be impacted by his negativeness, which I can do that, too. I mean, I can rattle off four things that I'm annoyed about in a row. So it wasn't about me being better. It's just like, in that moment, I realized, like, whoa, you're being that way. And I don't. I don't want to soak up any of that type of energy. So let's reset. I was like, so tell me, is there anything that's going right this morning, like, before you're traveling? And he was like, oh, well, I didn't feel like that stuff was really bad. I said, I know it doesn't seem that way, but I'm over here with this different energy, and you're just like, ping, ping, ping, ping. Which I know you're getting ready to leave the country, and this is a lot, and it can be overwhelming. But let's. Can we focus on, like, just tell me something that's going right for you right now, and then that helps sort of reset us. And I would want him to do the same thing for me. Like, if I was the one noticing negative things around me, like, could he pause and say, okay, can you tell me something that's going right.

[Amy]

Is anything. And there's a finesse to it, right?

[Kat]

It's a finesse.

[Amy]

A finesse.

[Kat]

Oh, I like that word. I don't know that.

[Amy]

I mean, because remember how.

[Kat]

I don't know that I've ever used finesse other than, like, isn't that a hairspray? Finesse.

[Amy]

Is it tresemme?

[Kat]

Tresemme. Finesse.

[Amy]

Is that different?

[Kat]

Maybe it's a part of a tagline.

[Amy]

Finesse means. Do you know what finesse means?

[Kat]

No. Finesse.

[Amy]

Well, it's a finesse to it. Like a. Yeah, like a smoothness to it. There's a dance to it. There's a way to do it.

[Kat]

It's gotta be a tagline for a hair product.

[Amy]

I don't know.

[Kat]

Okay, but there's a finesse. I like it. I'm gonna start using it. It's our word of the day.

[Amy]

Shannon will find us the definition.

[Kat]

Also, I want to know what commercial it's been in it.

[Amy]

But this. But this is reminding me how I think it. Was it your kids or who. Who Was it Adeline that told you that? You asked the question, what does this make possible? Too fast.

[Kat]

Oh, Adeline and Stashira, both of them together. Yeah.

[Amy]

Okay, so this is where the finesse comes in, where we have space for the frustration and we have space for the things that are going wrong. And we are mindful to not let somebody linger there too long. We're helping them see the other side versus saying, don't look at that. Okay, I'm gonna help you see both versus don't look at that.

[Kat]

Guess what? Finesse finish and strengthen extra hold hairspray 9.99 on Amazon is a brand Finesse finish. I don't know. Yeah, it is finesse. Also. Is that how you spell finesse? Because it looks like finis.

[Amy]

Yeah, but they used to say finesse in, like, soccer when, like. Oh, they had a finesse to it. Like, when you did, like, a really cool move, like, and it was, like, smooth. It's like, oh, finesse.

[Kat]

Oh, this is gonna be my new word. You know how dates are my new food.

[Amy]

Like those dates had a finesse to them in my salad.

[Kat]

Yeah, I'm just gonna start using it all the time. Like dates. I want dates and everything. I love dates. And now I feel like I'm gonna fall in love with the word finesse.

[Amy]

I have a challenge for you, okay. On the Bobby Bones show, you should have to work in finesse once.

[Kat]

No problem.

[Amy]

In the next. Twice in the next week. How about that?

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

See if somebody picks up of like. You've said that twice.

[Kat]

So my boyfriend's son gave me that challenge on the Bobby Bone show once, cuz he listens on his way to school and he's 12 and he was like, I need you to say the word donut. And I was like, okay, well, we'll see. Because Bobby was doing the news and so I'm like, how am I going to work donut into the news? And I feel like maybe he. Then Bobby brought up some story about UFOs or some identif. Unidentified objects, aliens, like something with the government. And I'm like, how in the world am I gonna work in donut? And I just remember saying something like, well, do we have the. The whole picture? Like the whole, like the whole shebang? The whole donut? Because, you know, you know, there's the full donut and then you have the cutout donut and that's how you get the donut hole.

[Amy]

We just have the donut hole or do we have the whole donut?

[Kat]

Yeah, the whole shebang. I think I go, do we have the whole donut? Is this the whole donut? The whole shebang? The way that I worked in it. And he thought it was the coolest thing ever. Like, he's on his way to school and he's like, she just said donut. Like, this is crazy. We talk so much on this show about how the most powerful thing you can do is pause and feel things. But I've been thinking a lot lately. What if some of those things affect how you feel in your own body? I'm talking about sensitive issues that we often shy away from. Discussing reoccurring BV UTIs, yeast infections, or simply feeling uncomfortable and off balance down there. Or simply feeling that something is off. These are all signs of a disrupted vaginal microbiome. That's why restoring and then maintaining its delicate balance is so important. Introducing Bioma Feminine Health Symbiotic. This novel supplement contains everything you need for a Healthy and Thriving Vaginal Microbiome with every serving you get nine essential ingredients that are all science backed and third party tested so you can feel in control of your feminine health. Simply take two tiny flavorless bioma capsules every morning before breakfast. That's all you need to experience all the benefits of a healthy and thriving vaginal microbiome. Visit byomafeminine.com and use code AMY to get 15% off your first order. That's byomafeminine.com, code AMY for 15% off. If you've listened to the Four Things podcast for a while, you know how important acceptance is when it comes to personal growth. And you know who else is big on acceptance? Discover. Yeah, you see, Discover is accepted at 99% of places that take credit cards nationwide. That's a whole lot of places and a whole lot of acceptance. Which is great for Discover, but even better for you. Based on the February 2024 Nielsen report. Learn more at discover.com Credit Card Oikos.

[Narrator]

Presents 15 Seconds of Strength Here we go. Steve's got a trunk full of groceries and no one to help him. Oh, that's tough. Jim looks like a five trip load.

[Amy]

At least.

[Narrator]

He grabs the first bag, the second bob. It looks like he's trying to do it all one trip. He shimmies the door open, steps over the dog. Oh, and he stumbles. Oh, right into the kitchen without missing a beat.

[Kat]

Jim.

[Narrator]

Now that's a man who eats his protein packed Oikos with 15 grams of complete protein in each cup. Oikos Triple Zero can help build strength for every day. Oos stronger makes everything better.

[Kat]

Which speaking of my boyfriend, you know how that reminds me because Autumn was talking about the couch Talks email from McKenzie and it was on that episode that I called my boyfriend my husband.

[Amy]

How could we forget?

[Kat]

Yeah, and that was cool. It's just a little fruity. Fruity and slip. Fre, fre.

[Amy]

Freudian, Freudian. It sound like you're saying fruity.

[Kat]

Freudian, Freudian, Freudian, Freudian slip.

[Amy]

Yep.

[Kat]

And it has been haunting me ever since. So we made a funny you know real about it that we put on social at Feeling Things podcast. If you're not already following, Follow Tik Tok Instagram all the things subscribe like subscribe Follow reshare Save Comment Save save save our posts apparently saving posts helps engagement.

[Amy]

That means people really like this. I want to come back to it.

[Kat]

Saving and sharing. Like if you share it to your.

[Amy]

Stories, share it to a friend, share.

[Kat]

It to yeah that's what I started doing. You know, that did that. I. I went in, I posted something, and I started sending it out to everybody we know. And I was like my sister. But it worked because my sister went to our feeling things and she commented. And I don't know that she comments that often, but because I put it straight into her DMs, she was like, ah, yeah, I'm gonna go leave a comment. I sent it to.

[Amy]

But you didn't say anything to people when you did it, because I know.

[Kat]

I just fired it off.

[Amy]

Okay? I did that this morning. I sent it to one of my friends and I texted her, you can ignore that DM I sent you. And she goes, oh, dang it. I thought I was special. And you were setting. I should have just let her. Just let it be, okay?

[Kat]

Just start firing it off to all your people. I sent it to your husband. I sent it to my boyfriend. Like, haha, look at this real. When I called you my husband. Because then the. The caption on it was, what was.

[Amy]

You soft launch your husband?

[Kat]

Yeah, soft launch my marriage.

[Amy]

He doesn't know it yet, so what did he think of it?

[Kat]

He thought it was hilarious.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

He thought it was funny. Thank goodness. But when I say it is haunting me, it's like his dad sent me a text and he was like, your quote, unquote, husband just sent me the video. Because, you know, also in the video, we talked about, wait to worry wtw, which was an acronym or a saying from his dad. And so he thought sharing with his dad would be special. And of course his dad loved it. But his dad wasn't like, oh, Alex sent me this. He was like, your husband sent it. And then you saw some guy at the gym that also said something and then. Which you can tell that story.

[Amy]

So I've been going to the gym with this guy for probably nine months, and we've said hi and stuff to each other, but never introduce each other. So thank you. I. You helped me make a friend. He came up to me, he was like, oh my gosh, you came up on my Instagram and I wanted to tell you. He was like, I don't know Amy, but I know her husband. He goes, he's a great guy. And I was like, yeah, yeah.

[Kat]

So it turns out, yes, they do know each other. Their kids know each other. And then my boyfriend got a text from one of his neighbors that said, are you getting married?

[Amy]

Stop it.

[Kat]

Yes. And I was like, make it stop.

[Amy]

Stop, stop.

[Kat]

So he really thought, who knows what the neighbor saw or what they. Because sometimes you're just scrolling real quick and it. They be like, my face off launch of my marriage. Like, he doesn't know yet. And maybe they. I don't know. Did they not understand what really happened? And then they're texting him, are you getting married? Are you getting engaged? And I said, well, what did you reply? He goes, I just sent back no. And I was like, what do you mean by no?

[Amy]

We're not engaged.

[Kat]

Right. I know. It was a very normal answer, but somehow I was offended by it.

[Amy]

You wanted him to be like, not yet.

[Kat]

Right? Yeah.

[Amy]

Yeah, that makes sense. Do you remember. You might not remember this. When early. When Patrick and I were dating, he posted. It was like, maybe the first picture he posted of me, I think it was. And I had a ring on my ring finger. And he posted it, and he got multiple people, including his cousin, called him and asked, are you engaged? I was like, first of all, if that was our engagement post, we would have some issues. I think we're at house of cards or something.

[Kat]

Yes, I remember this.

[Amy]

You do? I'm like, oh, my gosh. Never will wear. I never wore a ring on that finger.

[Kat]

What did he just reply? No.

[Amy]

I think he just like, heck, no. No. He said. He said. He said no, but we're looking into it. I'm just kidding. I was dating for like, three months, maybe.

[Kat]

Okay, well, I. Look, it's fine. He just answered no. Straight to the point.

[Amy]

God, Alex.

[Kat]

No finesse about him at all. The definition of finesse? To do something in a subtle and delicate manner, intricate and refined delicacy. Finesse.

[Amy]

So if somebody does something really smooth, be like, oh, I like that. Finesse.

[Kat]

Yeah, Straight. We did that with, like, it's, you know, like, straight fire. That's. You know, how we made sick a thing.

[Amy]

What if we make finesse?

[Kat]

Finesse.

[Amy]

So I wonder if we start saying finesse and you start saying around your boyfriend's kids. I almost just said your husband's kids. You say it around your boyfriend's kids. If they'll be like, oh, that sounds kind of cool. They bring it to school. We get the whole town saying it.

[Kat]

Okay. Oh, actually, yeah. The whole town.

[Amy]

The whole world.

[Kat]

Country. The whole world.

[Amy]

Have you ever said it had a saying that you started saying and then you heard other people started saying it and you're like, wait, I think I started that.

[Kat]

No, no. Have you?

[Amy]

Yeah, but I don't think I did. Like, I think I probably heard it, honestly.

[Kat]

I'm gonna put money on that. You didn't.

[Amy]

Yeah. How rude.

[Kat]

Sorry, I had no finesse with that. But what was this saying?

[Amy]

I don't know. There's been multiple things that I'm like, wait, I said that? Now everybody's saying it.

[Kat]

Well, you got me saying sick.

[Amy]

Yeah, but I know I didn't start that.

[Kat]

I know you didn't.

[Amy]

I'll think of it, because I know there happens.

[Kat]

If you don't even remember what it.

[Amy]

Was, then I'm nervous right now. I feel like I'm put on the spot.

[Kat]

Okay, well, you think of it and get back circle. Because I definitely want to know.

[Amy]

Okay, but. Okay. Also, I want people to hear me saying, I don't think I really did start it. Just.

[Kat]

But you haven't even said what it is, so you don't have to clarify. It's not like you're taking credit for anything. You said what it is. You're like, for the record, I just don't wanna, you know, act like I'm taking credit for this thing that I haven't even said yet because I don't remember what it is.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

I think you're good.

[Amy]

Wanna be misunderstood?

[Kat]

Yeah, yeah, don't worry. Was it. What are some sayings?

[Amy]

Like, I don't even know things that I say is a problem.

[Kat]

Like, no, Cap.

[Amy]

Okay. I didn't start that, nor do I say it.

[Kat]

Dope.

[Amy]

Don't say that. Fire, fire, flame. I say fire flame.

[Kat]

What is that?

[Amy]

Like, if something's sick, sometimes I'll say, that's fire flame.

[Kat]

Who says that?

[Amy]

I think only I say that. Well, two of my friends started saying it, too. And then we made it our group chat name.

[Kat]

But because. Is that the emoji, you know, when.

[Amy]

People send a fire flame?

[Kat]

Yeah. Well, I just call it fire. But.

[Amy]

Well, so then I started saying, oh, fire flame. Because that's the emoji is the fire flame. So there's fire. What if we say, like, please start saying firefly.

[Kat]

Like a match. Cool.

[Amy]

Because that's like, strike a match, call it fire.

[Kat]

Yeah, that's straight.

[Amy]

Strike a match. Because it's about to be straight fire in here.

[Kat]

That's a lighter.

[Amy]

Lit.

[Kat]

A lit. Lit. Lit was one.

[Amy]

I know, but I didn't start that.

[Kat]

Yeah. Okay. I don't have anything. I'm just, like, trying to think of more cool things, and I've got nothing.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

I had, like, you know, back in the day, we would say, like, psych. Like when I was in junior high.

[Amy]

That cycles through. Because that started. We started saying that when I was in high school.

[Kat]

Did you ever do eh. Anyways.

[Amy]

You can do that.

[Kat]

Yes. You have to do that. Eh. People who know, know somebody. Girls who get it, get it and girls who don't, don't.

[Amy]

I don't get that.

[Kat]

Not in the club, anyway.

[Amy]

That feels mean. Girlish.

[Kat]

It probably was. It's like.

[Amy]

And you did it as you like, curled your hair.

[Kat]

You go, anyways, that feels mean.

[Amy]

I don't like it.

[Kat]

I don't. I don't know that I. I don't. I think I had it done to me a lot. It was when I went to. It was in sixth grade. I went to full more.

[Amy]

Did you say that when like, somebody, you were tired of what they were saying and you're like, anyways?

[Kat]

No, I just said. I didn't really say it.

[Amy]

Okay, next.

[Kat]

You're just popular at my school. Okay. We had no finesse back then anyways. Okay, I have a little something something. And then I know you have a little something something. Like I'm gonna share things we can say to ourselves to feel calm before we go to sleep.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

And then I'm very, very, very, very, very, very excited about you telling your thing because we have had air baths on our schedule on our Google Doc for weeks now, and we haven't gotten to it for whatever reason. I don't know why. We just haven't gotten to it. And I want to know all about air baths. I love baths. I love forest baths. You know, I love cold plunge baths.

[Amy]

You like warm plunge baths.

[Kat]

I like hot baths, cold baths.

[Amy]

So stay tuned. Don't stop listening now because we're going.

[Kat]

To save that a sound baths. I love a sound bath.

[Amy]

Yeah, but have you heard of air baths?

[Kat]

I haven't. That's why I'm eager for you to tell me about it. So I'm going to knock mine out real quick so we can get to yours. So these are things that we should be saying to ourselves before we sleep. I saw this list, thought it could be helpful if you're having trouble falling asleep. Okay, so you lay down. Picture it. You lay down.

[Amy]

First step is to lay down.

[Kat]

First up, lay down. Although, can I share something about how I've been sleeping sitting up, elevated?

[Amy]

How elevated?

[Kat]

Okay, well, I have a thing that I got through work from Mattress Firm at like, Like a hospital bed. So is it very thankful to the.

[Amy]

Sides so your partner could be a different.

[Kat]

No. Oh, it's the whole we're all together. I think way back when Ben and I, we had the whole we had the two different sides. He maybe got that in the divorces. So anyways, I just had the regular. However, like if you don't have that or you go to a hotel and you. But you can stack your pillows and kind of just sleep a little bit elevated. And I feel like my face. I've been waking up less puffy when I'm sleeping. Elevated.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

And something. It's like, better about circulation. Even if you can raise your feet up a little bit, like, it's like good for the. The blood from your feet to go towards your abs and the blood from your head to go down towards your abs, you know? So you're almost like at this. It's like zero gravity. Whatever they call zero. Google it.

[Amy]

I thought zero gravity was like when you're in space.

[Kat]

No, but it's what they call. It's like an elevated state of like your hips are at 120 degree angle or something.

[Amy]

This is getting too complicated.

[Kat]

Well, sorry.

[Amy]

These are supposed to be easy.

[Kat]

This is. I. I've. I've. I've gone on a journey now.

[Amy]

We have to be 120 degrees elevated in zero gravity. We have to go to space. Sleep now.

[Kat]

Okay, well, I was originally telling you that, and then my ADHD brain took us on a journey to zero gravity sleeping, which is a thing. Okay, so don't hate.

[Amy]

I'm not hating you. I just feel.

[Kat]

I feel like you've been taken down a rabbit hole.

[Amy]

I feel overwhelmed now. I want to feel underwhelmed with my. My sleep. I want to feel whelmed.

[Kat]

Okay, well, that was just a side note.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

Like, whatever. Sleep elevated. Don't sleep elevated. No pressure.

[Amy]

Sleep under your bed.

[Kat]

Yeah. Okay, back to the original feeling of calm. This is what you're going to say to yourself. Okay.

[Amy]

Is this one long mantra or different things?

[Kat]

Pick which ones you need.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

Or write them all down.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

I release the day with gratitude. I don't need all the answers tonight. I am proud of how far I've come. I did my best today and that's enough. I forgive myself and others. Asterisk. Because, like you maybe haven't forgiven the others. I am safe.

[Amy]

You can choose your own adventure. There.

[Kat]

I added the asterisk.

[Amy]

You're like, I forgive myself but not them.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Yet.

[Kat]

Yet I am safe to let go. I will wake up with greater clarity. I can start again tomorrow. I am ready to drift into peace now. I don't want to throw you. I know. I just went over that list. I'm going to detour Real quick, because I just thought of something else that I used to do that I stopped doing. And I don't know why I stopped about sleeping. I used to listen to, like, sleep talk down audio on YouTube from Jason Stevenson. Do you remember me telling you about him? He has an accent. I don't know where he's from. Maybe Australia.

[Amy]

Is this the guy that says the money one?

[Kat]

I know that's something.

[Amy]

That's a. Oh, that's vibrations.

[Kat]

That's subliminal that I listen to. I can't really hear the person saying it, but I'm listening to, like, bees buzzing and then underneath they're going. You are good with money. Circulating money brings you joy. You are responsible for large sums of money and you know what to do with it. You handle money with ease. Yeah, I handle money with E. That's.

[Amy]

That's different.

[Kat]

Those are my subliminals that help me with my finances because money used to always stress me out. So that's what I do to stay calm with. You're a money magnet.

[Amy]

That's the one that I need.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Give me 500 right now.

[Kat]

Well, no, you're not. I mean, you're not talking to anybody else.

[Amy]

I know, but maybe it would help me ask for it better.

[Kat]

But it's like, imagine you're just. But I don't hear that. I mean, it's under there because towards the end, you can kind of hear it because the. Maybe the ocean's crashing or the bees buzzing or the birds chirping, they sort of die out. And then you hear the. But they're talking really, really fast. It's like you recorded. It's on fast feeding. It's like you are a money magnet. You're really good with money. When you attract money and money is. Comes to you easily and people just want to give you money, it's like that, but you're hearing it under.

[Amy]

Who gave you this idea?

[Kat]

I came across it on Instagram. Cryo Cat came across some posts that she saw. And then my cousin has talked to me about subliminals before. And then I went to this one link that the person posted about, and then I clicked on the link and I was like, okay, I'll get that app. So I get the app and then I just listen to it.

[Amy]

Wait a second. Did you have to pay for a subscription?

[Kat]

I pay for it. Not a lot, though.

[Amy]

You're good with money. You will pay 29.99amonth to have this subliminal message you.

[Kat]

The BL that there's a. That's the money one I can listen to.

[Amy]

I know, but isn't that kind of funny?

[Kat]

It is hilarious.

[Amy]

You're like.

[Kat]

So funny. I know, I know. I'm a sucker. Who knows if these even work? Maybe we should make our own. Like, I do it. Yes. I do it morning. I do at night. I try to do it when I'm going to sleep, when I'm waking up. Because your. Your brain is in like, I don't know, the state Delta maybe or something. Which is good at receiving subliminals because you have different wavelengths where you're more susceptible to absorb. Okay, okay, okay. So because on a subconscious level, like, I had convinced myself that I was horrible with money, and now on a subconscious level, I'm. I'm subliminally telling myself, or whoever this lady is that recorded these things really fast, she's like, totally throw them. You're really good with money. Or money.

[Amy]

What if in it you don't know? But they're like, you will give me all of your money.

[Kat]

But I'm not. I haven't given her anything else. Like, I'm not giving any other money. Like, I also listen to the. You're creative genius. There's a creative genius. Thank you. Pause. I almost didn't accept that compliment. But I am working on that. So she'd be like, you know, you. You have ideas. They are flowing out of you. Or an idea. I'm an idea magnet. Okay, so subliminals back to that. But Jason Stevenson is different. He does sleep talk down videos where.

[Amy]

How much did you pay for his?

[Kat]

Free. On YouTube.

[Amy]

Jason.

[Kat]

And he's got like millions of listens. Sort of like us. We're like the millions of views on YouTube. We're the same. So Jason Stevenson, and he just talks down. It's like asleep. It's like a talking that's talking you down to go to sleep. So I think they're called Sleep talk down.

[Amy]

Okay. You stopped doing it because you didn't need it.

[Kat]

Don't know. I guess I was getting better, but I was really into it for a while. Probably because I replaced it with my subliminals, you know?

[Amy]

Yeah. But this is nice. You can just say these instead of have your sleep talk down.

[Kat]

Yeah. You could just say this to yourself. I. I release the day with gratitude. I don't need all the answers right now.

[Amy]

That's my favorite one.

[Kat]

I know that one's good for me because, you know, one thing I was working on therapy for sure. Late last year was trying to figure everything out. And my therapist kept saying, what if there's nothing to figure out? And I'm like, are you kidding me?

[Amy]

Who do you think you are?

[Kat]

There's so much to figure out I have to figure out. Like what?

[Amy]

Yeah, I, I, how are you doing with that now?

[Kat]

Better.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

I got better with that after my ketamine sort of released some of that. I mean, obviously, and then talking through it with her afterwards and then, you know, that helps the weight to worry. Also helps that in my relationship, like there's nothing to, to figure out. Wtw? Yeah, I don't need all the answers tonight.

[Amy]

Tomorrow, that's a different story.

[Kat]

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[Amy]

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[Kat]

Okay, real quick. Before we get into air bathing, Shannon found us some things about sleeping elevated. Sleeping with an elevated head, such as using an extra pillow or a wedge, can be beneficial for your face, particularly in reducing puffiness and improving skin health. Elevating your head helps reduce fluid buildup, which can lead to morning puffiness, especially around the eyes. Boom.

[Amy]

Sick.

[Kat]

Take it. And subliminals. You're generally more susceptible to subliminal messages when your brain isn't actively engaged in demanding tasks, allowing it to filter and process subliminal stimuli more easily.

[Amy]

Wait, so you shouldn't be doing things when you listen to your subliminals? You should, like, be lying down.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Well, you don't. You can do that.

[Kat]

Cat. What I just told you when I listen to my subliminals. When do I listen to my subliminals?

[Amy]

I thought you did it while you were, like, doing dishes or something.

[Kat]

No.

[Amy]

Oh. Were you lying down?

[Kat]

I just said I listen to it before I go to bed and when I wake up because my brain is still in, like, I'm sorry, Delta.

[Amy]

It's not that I wasn't listening, it's just that I wasn't paying attention.

[Kat]

I have compassion for your kind of brain because I too have the brain that you have, which I could easily do that same exact thing to you, which is, I think one of the beautiful things about our friendship is because we. We have similar brains. So I'm not even offended.

[Amy]

It's also, you've given me a lot of grace. I've forgotten what day your birthday is from the past five years. Yeah, it's in my calendar. It's just in my calendar as the wrong day. And you think after the first year that I said happy birthday on the wrong day? I would have changed it, but guess what? Still been there the wrong day.

[Kat]

Yours is December 4th. It's fine.

[Amy]

Yours is the 19th.

[Kat]

18Th.

[Amy]

It's in my calendar on the 17th, so I knew it wasn't the 17th.

[Kat]

It's okay. My best friend from high school. From high school. So I've been friends with her since we were 13 and I still get the days flipped.

[Amy]

Oh, really? Why can you remember mine then?

[Kat]

I don't know.

[Amy]

Because it's Jay Z's birthday too, probably.

[Kat]

And Cryo Cats is December 10th. I don't know. Yeah. And Taylor Swift, us at 13 of December.

[Amy]

Yeah. Oh, you don't like her. Shannon's birthday is right after my birthday. No, after your birthday. It's after yours.

[Kat]

Right, for mine.

[Amy]

Okay, I knew that.

[Kat]

Yeah. Hers 17th. Okay. So, yeah, now we've got everybody in the room. Birthdays are covered. Listeners are informed. They know. But I will say this because I have had friends where I have missed their birthday. And I don't even think I understood how my brain worked around birthdays. And I would carry a lot of shame and guilt, and I felt terrible, but I was like, how did I just go this whole day? Now I have had to try to implement things like calendar. Shannon helps me. Like, I. All the things, like. And I still will mess up and get things wrong, but as an adult, I try. Now, now that I'm an aware adult, I've been an adult for a while, but with my adhd, part of my awareness is, like, making sure that we've got our tools in place. That said, I still will mess up. But before, I had a calendar, which was not that long ago, I did not like calendars. I hated calendars.

[Amy]

They're overwhelming sometimes.

[Kat]

Let's say this was probably 2018. I forgot a friend's birthday, and I felt terrible. And I also did not understand my brain, nor did she. And it just did not go well. And it's something that came up even later.

[Amy]

Did you remember later in the day?

[Kat]

Yeah, in the evening. And then I immediately sent a gift.

[Amy]

And you had already talked to her that day? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Kat]

Some form of communication. And it just was. I. When I was in bed and I sat up and realized it, like, I was like, oh, oh, my God, I'm. I'm a horrible human. I don't think we can use our.

[Amy]

People.

[Kat]

We can't just use it as an excuse. But also, I think that, like, if you have a friend that has ADHD and that were to happen, like. Like, don't take it personally, because, yeah.

[Amy]

It'S not an excuse, but it's not.

[Kat]

A reason to question your friendship.

[Amy]

Right. That's not a reflection on how much I care about you.

[Kat]

Exactly.

[Amy]

It just is part of my brain, and I need to work on that better. I did that to my mom in college. I. I'll never forget this. I called her because I really needed a pair of new shoes because I had formal that night. I called her and I said, mom, I can't find any shoes to wear with my dress. Also I don't have any money. And my mom was probably, I'm sure she said, like, you can go get some. I'll put some money on your account. She was so nice. And then maybe four hours later I was like, it's my mom's birthday, April 23rd. I knew when her birthday was. I just didn't know it was April 23rd. And so I called her and I said, mom, I'm so sorry, Happy birthday. And she said, it's okay, you were just worried about your shoes. I was like, yeah, I was. I also forgot my dad's birthday, I think last year in it.

[Kat]

But it's. But I guess every 20th. It's not a self absorbed thing.

[Amy]

Well, it's like, I'll tell her happy birthday later. And then you, because you like see it too early in the morning and then you forget and you put it later and then it's too late.

[Kat]

And then like, well, now you can schedule texts. What?

[Amy]

Did I do this? Did you already tell me this?

[Kat]

I don't think so.

[Amy]

I know you could schedule emails.

[Kat]

You can schedule texts now.

[Amy]

Okay. I'm about to schedule text for all the birthdays the next year.

[Kat]

Sick. Sick. Fire.

[Amy]

Flame.

[Kat]

Finesse.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

Or something like that. Yeah. So, you know, we did. Went down a few rabbit holes there.

[Amy]

Okay. So I was reading an article about, I think was talking about embracing your uniqueness or your quirks. I didn't get through much of the article because I was stopped in my tracks when they brought up Benjamin Franklin and his quirks. Do you know much about him?

[Kat]

I mean he found electricity and bifocals.

[Amy]

Pretty sure. Apparently he was a really quirky, interesting guy and which makes sense because if he did all these like inventions, he had to be a little. He was a progressive thinker, I guess, like us, just like us.

[Kat]

We invent words, sayings, phrases, they go viral.

[Amy]

And he did something called air bathing. And I was like, what is air bathing? So I, I looked. They just like mentioned his Airbus as if like everybody knew that Benjamin Franklin took air baths and what they were. So obviously you think of them and you're like, he's probably basking in the air. Well, no, what he would do is he. For like an hour and a half or so in the morning, the first thing he would do or one of the first things he would do is go into a room, open the windows, get completely nude and bathe in the air. And he thought it was literally cleansing. He said it was more cleansing than actual baths.

[Kat]

Okay. Benjamin. He said air bathing is not, he said, cleaner than a bath. He said, I mean, maybe back then.

[Amy]

He would advocate for airbaths, a practice where he would sit naked in a room with open windows to expose his body to fresh air. He believed this practice, which he referred to as bracing or a tonic bath, was beneficial for his health and helped him maintain good health. He liked to practice with cool morning air to energize himself and love the warm afternoon sun to relax.

[Kat]

Okay, so I get that. I mean, so he was a little bit of a. Ahead of his time.

[Amy]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Kat]

Because we do stuff like.

[Amy]

Well, because it's kind of like a cold plunge. Right. There are probably benefits to it. But the Ben. The thing that got me is he said it says Franklin preferred airbaths to actual water baths, believing they were a more effective and agreeable way to cleanse the body.

[Kat]

That's where I would like, yeah, you need some soap. Like, maybe cleansing mentally because you can get still and clear and calm.

[Amy]

But like, but what was the, like, hygiene back then? You know, I don't think they had the best hygiene. Yeah, right. So maybe they just weren't up on the times of soap and water was probably more of a harder resource to get.

[Kat]

I think about that when I, like when I was watching Gilded Age, you know. Did you watch that?

[Amy]

No. You've talked about it before, so good.

[Kat]

You somewhat watched it.

[Amy]

But when is the Gilded Age?

[Kat]

Late 1800s.

[Amy]

When was Benjamin Franklin alive?

[Kat]

Shannon.

[Amy]

That'S one of those things.

[Kat]

I know that Thomas Edison was in the Gilded Age. Like he invented the light bulb around then. So I don't know if the light bulb and electricity came at the same ish.

[Amy]

Because Benjamin was the kite with the lightning. Yes, right.

[Kat]

And the bifocal.

[Amy]

And bifocals. So we'll figure out 1700s.

[Kat]

Oh, wow. So he's. Wow. He lived till 84, so maybe he's onto something.

[Amy]

Oh, my God.

[Kat]

I feel like that's old for back then.

[Amy]

Maybe he was Lucky Thorpe.

[Kat]

No, I mean, maybe he's his air baths. Like, he probably did his life better care.

[Amy]

He probably was doing things that were really good for your men going outside. Oh, well, I was going to say he probably was doing things that were really good for his mental health that impact his overall health. And he didn't even know it, like, if he went outside. And I mean, now it's like, duh, the sun helps our health but he was. And that's hard for us to do now.

[Kat]

He was getting.

[Amy]

He was doing. Yeah, he was. He was getting air baths. The wind was just cleansing his whole body.

[Kat]

Well, in. In the. So the Gilded age was about 100 years after he died. And they had these beautiful dresses, you know, and they're like corsets, and they're all. What's under the dress. The, like, frilly. The. The white stuff that, like, makes a tool. Oh, thank you. Cryo tool. The tool.

[Amy]

Just say it like you would say a hammer. Tool.

[Kat]

Tool.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

Okay. So that stuff under the dress that's white and fluffy. All that I'm trying to say is when it comes to hygiene. And they would. It would be so hot out. And they have on these dresses, like, what did they do to smell like? Did they have deodorant? I mean, I use all natural deodorants. Maybe that's what they were doing. Did they do coconut oil and, you know, vanilla? What's that stuff? Essential oil with a little baking.

[Amy]

Wait a second.

[Kat]

Or soda.

[Amy]

I never thought about that.

[Kat]

Well, we were.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

I don't. I did when I watched the show. I'm like, they've got to be so hot, and I wonder if they smell. And then they'll start, like, making out and then do it. And I'm like, oh, what are they doing?

[Amy]

Also, if it was normal, then they probably would be like, oh, it's the smell. That's what people smell like.

[Kat]

Oh, they would use. Okay. Shannon to the rescue. In the 17th centuries, people used a variety of fragrant materials to smell good. Floral scents like roses, orange blossoms, jasmine, as well as musky scents. Potpourri was also popular for homes and. Oh, they had gum back then. Perfumed gloves.

[Amy]

Interesting.

[Kat]

Do you put gloves on and then just stick your gloves under your arms?

[Amy]

But also, I see here Shannon's helping us out in multiple different ways. Bats were refer. The rich. Bathing was for the. So the availability of water depended on your social standing. So I don't know what Benjamin's social standing was. I would assume it would have been high. He could have been bathing. Maybe he was saving the bath for the other people.

[Kat]

Well, that would have been sweet. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. They used to bathe maybe once a week. We're bathing too much. That's what my boyfriend says. I shower too much.

[Amy]

I don't. I think he.

[Kat]

No. He's probably bad for my skin.

[Amy]

Well, on my microbiome, I like to feel clean.

[Kat]

Yeah, same.

[Amy]

I'll incorporate an air bath into My routine. But also like depending on where can you. I can't just open all the windows in my home and get naked. People can see through my windows.

[Kat]

I don't know. I picture Benjamin. He's probably on like a little like house on a hill. No one's bothering him. Like you literally have. Right next door.

[Amy]

That's Benjamin. He's air bathing. Don't mind him.

[Kat]

Yeah, well, air baths.

[Amy]

We did it the morning.

[Kat]

Got it. Now we cross that off every. I'll try it out.

[Amy]

Let us know.

[Kat]

But don't get busted for like indecent exports that call them indecent exposure.

[Amy]

You could just sit in a bathing suit.

[Kat]

No, it has to be air, baby.

[Amy]

You got to get it all through the orifices.

[Kat]

Some of this is making me think of a story about cryo Cat, which we need to get her a mic so that she could speak on it. So she doesn't have it. I'm just going to throw this out there for listeners in case any of them have had this experience and they know like maybe what could be going on. But she's waking up smelling weird. Like this has never happened her before. Like she could take a shower and go to bed and in the morning she'll wake up and she smells like Indian food.

[Amy]

Not even Bo.

[Kat]

Indian. Indian food.

[Amy]

Is there Indian food in her body?

[Kat]

No. That's what I said. Or like maybe in her water shower. Like her neighbors. Are they cooking? No.

[Amy]

Does it have to do with some of the supplements you're taking?

[Kat]

She thinks maybe, but I don't know if anybody else has had this experience. Just let us know. She thinks it could potentially be too much testosterone or stress or stress. Like is any. Just. Has anybody else had an issue where they wake up suddenly out of nowhere smelling like Indian food and they haven't eaten Indian food. Same diet all the time. But okay, maybe it could be certain Pepsi. Maybe she's on. We don't know.

[Amy]

I wish she was still having this problem because then we could have her air bathe and see if it helped.

[Kat]

Yeah, because she would do that.

[Amy]

Too much soap.

[Kat]

No problem. All right, Cat, where can people find.

[Amy]

Us on Instagram at. You need it not. You need therapy. I keep doing that.

[Kat]

That's okay.

[Amy]

On Instagram at Feeling Things Podcast.

[Kat]

Yes. And on YouTube. Tick tock all the things. And we hope that you will email us hey there. At feeling things podcast.com and you can call and leave us a voicemail. 877-207-2077. All this stuff is in the show notes as well. And lastly, have the day you need to have. Bye Bye. We often say that the most powerful thing you can do is pause and feel things. But what if some of those things feel off, like recurring bv utis, yeast infections, or simply feeling uncomfortable and off balance down there? These are all signs of a disrupted vaginal microbiome. Introducing Bioma Feminine Health Symbiotic this novel supplement contains everything you need for a healthy and thriving vaginal microbiome. Simply take two tiny flavorless bioma capsules before breakfast. That's all you need to feel in control of your feminine health. Visit byomafeminine.com and use code AMY to get 15% off your first order. That's byomafeminine.com use code AMY 15% off hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway this spring. Stock up on all your personal care favorites and earn 4 times points. Now through June 17th. Shop in store online for deals on all your favorite personal care items like Pantene Shampoo, Native Body Spray Deodorant, Secret Body Spray, Venus Razors, Always Pads, Head and Shoulder Shampoo and Native deodorant and earn 4 times points. Then use those points for discounts on groceries or fuel. You don't want to miss these deals. Offer ends June 17th. Promotions may vary. Restrictions apply. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details. With grocery prices and rent skyrocketing, money stress is real right now. That's why you need the Smart Money Happy Hour podcast. It's like this show, just two friends talking about everything that you're talking about, except they happen to be money experts. Rachel Cruz and George Camel are hilarious and they cover stuff like things that scream I'm pretending to be upper class. Why 175k earners say they're poor or financial faux pas dividing your friend group Search Smart Money Happy Hour and listen wherever you get your podcasts.

[Amy]

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