BOBBYCAST - #568 - Bobby on Movies You Didn't Know Were Stephen King Stories! +  An Artist We Loved Until We Saw Them Live + Easiest Way to Ruin a Concert

Summary

BOBBYCAST Ep. 568: “Bobby on Movies You Didn't Know Were Stephen King Stories! + An Artist We Loved Until We Saw Them Live + Easiest Way to Ruin a Concert”

Date: January 13, 2026
Host: Bobby Bones (A), with Eddie (C), Brandon Ray (D), Mike (E)
Podcast: The Bobby Bones Show

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Overview

This episode of the BobbyCast centers around surprising Stephen King movie adaptations, reflections on concerts—including best and worst live experiences—and the subtle art (and etiquette) of concert-going. Bobby, Eddie, and Brandon Ray delve into movies you likely didn’t know originated with Stephen King, discuss significant book-to-movie adaptations, then shift to a lively and honest conversation about memorable concerts and audience behavior.

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Stephen King: More Than Just Horror

[00:41 – 13:38]

King’s Surprising Adaptations

• Bobby reveals he watched “Life of Chuck,” a Stephen King adaptation that’s not horror. This sparks a conversation on King’s vast range of stories that aren’t all scary.
  • Bobby: “I think of Stephen King as someone who writes scary movies. Horror.” [01:11]
  • Eddie: “Yeah. Horror movies.”
  • Bobby: “...He does, but not.” [01:19]

Unexpected King-Based Movies

• Shawshank Redemption – Written by King (originally a short story, not under this title).
• Stand By Me – Also King.
• The Green Mile – Shocking to the group, as it’s not horror.
• The Long Walk, Christine, 1408, Dolores Claiborne, Carrie—all King’s work.
• Running Man – Remake with Glen Powell came out last year, originally an Arnold Schwarzenegger film, and written by King.

Memorable Quote:

“Stephen King has written so many friggin’ things that aren’t horror.” – Bobby, [03:22]

More on King’s Writing Persona

• King wrote as Richard Bachman to avoid market oversaturation and to see if books sold without his brand.
  • Bobby: “In the 70s, publishers believed an author should put out one book per year. So...he was like, fine, I’ll just create somebody else.” [11:00]
  • Fun fact: The name Bachman was inspired by Bachman-Turner Overdrive.

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Top Book-to-Movie Adaptations

[04:27 – 13:38]

• The group discusses the highest-grossing and most notable book-to-movie franchises:
  • Harry Potter (over $1.3 billion)
  • The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit
  • Jurassic Park (Michael Crichton)
  • Alice in Wonderland (Lewis Carroll)
  • The Da Vinci Code (Dan Brown)
  • Stephen King ($719 million)
  • The Hunger Games (Suzanne Collins)
  • Chronicles of Narnia, Gone with the Wind, The Fault in Our Stars, Life of Pi, The Godfather, Jaws

“It’s the biggest horror adaptation ever. That—the clown? Yeah.” – Bobby, on 'It' [06:31]

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Movie Consumership & Short Stories

[08:02 – 09:44]

• The group muses on the short story-to-film pipeline, discussing how short stories or novellas become long, impactful films like “Shawshank Redemption.”
• Discussion on the Oscar’s short film category and how it’s evolved thanks to new platforms like YouTube.
  • Mike: “A lot of new directors now will just put out their short film on YouTube, and then that’s how they get a full-feature film.” [09:12]

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Stephen King & Movie Recommendations

[12:25 – 14:43]

• Bobby reflects on the emotional depth and layers in “Life of Chuck”:

  “There is something in it that you have to understand. Oh, it’s not just a movie. You watch and you take it all for what is being presented...There’s a deeper meaning to it.” [12:48]

• The group chats about Hulu’s interface for finding movies (“Hulu kind of blows”), Netflix’s “Top 10” being more useful, and upcoming plans for the podcast’s distribution.

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Counting Crows Documentary & Band Talk

[16:54 – 19:57]

• Eddie watched the Counting Crows HBO documentary “Have You Seen Me Lately?” and found lead singer Adam Duritz “a little whiny” in person, though remains a big fan of the music.
  • Eddie: “I got some stories that I’d never heard of before...But he just got a little whiny for me.” [17:11]
• Conversation about dreads, identity, and cultural appropriation, sparked by Duritz’s look.

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Concert Questionnaire: Best, Worst & Wish List

[20:40 – 39:32]

Most Memorable Concerts (Relive One)

• Eddie: Pearl Jam opening for U2 at Hawaii’s Aloha Stadium [21:00]
• Brandon Ray: 2004 Crossroads Guitar Festival at the Cotton Bowl—front row for Eric Clapton, B.B. King, Buddy Guy, Carlos Santana, John Mayer [21:40]
• Bobby: John Mayer at ACL in the rain—would just “wear different clothes” next time [22:20]

Concerts That Inspired

• Brandon: Collective Soul opening for Creed—his formative moment wanting to be a guitarist [23:19]

Wish List: Never-Seen Artists (Alive)

• Eddie: “Taylor Swift. I’d love to see that show...” [24:26]
• Bobby & Brandon: Paul McCartney. “He plays a lot of Beatles stuff.” [24:49]
• Family Story: Brandon’s father-in-law saw the Beatles at Mets Stadium. [25:26]

Older Rockers Still Got It

• John Fogerty (CCR): Still delivers at age 80. “I would say he sounds eight out of ten...Not three out of ten doing an impression...” – Bobby [26:06]
• Rolling Stones: Still “rock” in person. “So shocked they were still so good.” – Eddie [39:22]
• AC/DC & Guns N’ Roses: Not quite the same live anymore due to aging voices.

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Artists Who Disappointed Live

[28:14 – 37:07]

• Everclear (Art Alexakis): Bobby and Brandon both agree he “couldn’t sing” live, even before his MS diagnosis, though Bobby insists the studio records still hold up. [28:51]
• Bob Dylan: Eddie still loves him as a songwriter but calls his live show “inaudible”—“I don’t recommend that for anyone” [32:03]
  • Eddie: “He sings...for five or six songs, like, it’s inaudible. You can’t...it’s like music trivia.” [33:14]
  • The crowd famously left, with Dylan only addressing the remaining diehards before “Like a Rolling Stone”: “Welcome, Bob Dylan fans.” [33:49]
• Guns N’ Roses (recent tour): Brandon: “There were parts of the show that were great...other songs it was like, what is happening?...His voice couldn’t keep up.” [37:08]

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Artist “Changing Things Up” Live – To Hate or To Love?

[34:30 – 36:49]

• Counting Crows: Discussion about Adam Duritz altering songs live—a divisive move.
  • Bobby: “He did 80 to 90% all the right way [last show]. And we were shocked.” [36:02]
  • For diehard fans, it’s expected and sometimes appreciated, but casual fans get frustrated.

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What Ruins a Concert?

[40:47 – 48:05]

• Bobby: Bad sound (e.g., at Tom Petty) and crowd yelling can ruin it. He’s also irked by yelling during ballads. [41:47]
  • “When those slow down moments happen, I like it when everybody slows down and lets the guy do the thing because it’s a vulnerable point.” [42:03]
• Brandon: People talking loudly, drunkenness. [42:18]
• Eddie: Crowd etiquette—he loves to stand and jump, but acknowledges “read the room” is important. “If everybody around me sits down, I’m not going to be the one guy...” [44:04]
• Cell Phones & Singing: Panel agrees that singing along, using phones, and movement depends on the moment and genre. Excessive out-of-place shouting or FaceTiming mid-show—definite no-gos. [46:10]
• Brandon (as performer): Big pet peeve is talking/interruptions during comedy sets, as timing is crucial. “The silence is as much a part of the act as the talking.” – Bobby [48:38]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “Big shout out, Stephen King. That’s all. I just want to start this. Big shout out to Stephen King.” – Bobby [03:40]
• “Is that like a Rolling Stone?...Because of the sound or because of his...the way he’s singing? ...Like, you can’t. You’re really playing music trivia with his music.” – Eddie [33:14]
• “I loved Everclear...but...he couldn’t sing.” – Bobby [28:51]
• “You probably could [do dreads], though, because I think the less white you get, the more you can do dreads generally. I have seen white guys with dreads, but I think dreads are so cool.” – Bobby [19:45]
• “If you could see any artist you’ve never seen that’s alive and be front row, who would it be? Taylor Swift...” – Eddie [24:26]
• “I hate that people don’t really get into the shows...like as much as I think they should.” – Eddie [43:38]
• “What is your biggest pet peeve about an audience? ...If I’m telling jokes and people are talking. None. Shut it down. Because it’s all timing.” – Bobby [48:33]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:41 – Bobby introduces the theme: Stephen King movie adaptations
• 01:24 – Surprising King stories: Stand By Me, Shawshank, The Green Mile (non-horror)
• 04:45 – The biggest book-to-movie adaptations
• 12:25 – Bobby on the nuance of “Life of Chuck” and audience reactions
• 17:00 – Counting Crows HBO documentary—band identity and fan impressions
• 20:40 – Concert questionnaire starts: “Relive one concert” roundtable
• 28:14 – “Artists You Loved Until You Saw Them Live”: Everclear, Bob Dylan, Guns N’ Roses
• 34:30 – Counting Crows and live song “remix” debate
• 40:47 – What ruins a concert? Sound, crowd, etiquette
• 46:52 – Fan singing, etiquette, and performer pet peeves

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Closing

The episode closes with big “shout outs” to Stephen King and Richard Bachman. Bobby teases exciting news—the podcast will soon be available on Netflix. The team reflects on the importance of etiquette, emotional intelligence, and reading the room at concerts—reminding listeners that everyone enjoys live music differently and that awareness makes all the difference.

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Bottom Line:
This episode is a lively, memory-rich journey through unexpected Stephen King stories, the highs and lows of live music, and the quirks of concert behavior. It’s as much about appreciating the unexpected as it is about embracing the communal moment—if you’re listening, you’re part of the show too.

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

Hey, welcome to episode 568. We're gonna talk about concerts in a second. We'll do a concert questionnaire. I got Eddie and Brandon Ray here, but I wanted to start because I watched that movie, Life of Chuck. You haven't seen it yet?

[C]

I've not seen it yet.

[D]

I haven't. I saw your post and I looked it up. It looks super interesting.

[A]

You haven't seen it?

[B]

I haven't.

[A]

Okay. I'm not even telling you anything about it, but Stephen King wrote the original, which is a short story. And so I looked up all of the Stephen King movie adaptations, and I think of Stephen King as someone who writes scary movies. Horror.

[C]

Yeah. Horror movies.

[A]

He does, but not.

[C]

No, dude. I've seen lists like this too, where I'm like, wow, he wrote that.

[A]

So. And I can roll down some of these here. Stephen King wrote. And I'm just gonna go in order. He wrote Shawshank Redemption.

[C]

Yep. That was the one I was shocked at.

[A]

And I think the original. The name of it isn't Shawshank Redemption. It's like the Shawshank Redemption of some woman.

[C]

Yes. Another short story, I believe.

[A]

Yeah, it is a short. Yeah. The Shawshank Redemption is at number one. Stand By Me is at number two.

[C]

Crazy.

[D]

One of my favorites.

[A]

Highest rated. I just don't think of Stephen King as someone who writes Stand By Me or Shawshank Redemption type things, because it's always Cujo, Children of the Corn, it. And so. But he did write the. It's as well.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

The Green Mile, which is not horror. Did you know?

[D]

I. I didn't know that.

[A]

I think I had heard that, but I don't know I would have listed it. I don't. I couldn't recall that. The Shining and Misery are at four and five.

[C]

Those are horror movies.

[A]

It at six. Doctor Sleep. I don't know what that is. Mike saw that.

[E]

The sequel to the Shining.

[A]

Oh, so it's also scary. Carrie. Is it a. That's scary. 1408, that's from a short story. Dolores Claiborne.

[D]

That movie was crazy.

[A]

What?

[C]

1408.

[D]

John. John Cusack.

[A]

Dolores Claiborne.

[D]

Oh, 1408. I'm sorry.

[A]

Oh, I don't know. We moved on past that one. What's 1408?

[D]

It's with John Cusack. Basically. He's. He's in this hotel room. It's a haunted hotel room. And all this crazy stuff happens in it. I'm sorry, I thought we were still on.

[A]

No, but keep going. Is it, is it scary?

[C]

I've never heard of it.

[D]

Yeah, it's scary, but it's like the. One of the wildest movies I've ever seen.

[A]

Dolores Claiborne.

[C]

That sounds like the singer of the Cranberries.

[A]

Oh, Dolores o' Rourke or whatever her name is.

[C]

That's what I was thinking.

[A]

I was thinking Dolores from oh, Silence of the Lambs. But he didn't write that, Clarice. Oh, that's not what it is.

[C]

Not Dolores. Ah, that's the. That's the Spanish version.

[A]

So. Stephen King has written so many friggin things that aren't horror.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Including the life of Chuck.

[C]

Yes. Oh yeah, he wrote that too.

[A]

He wrote the Long Walk, which also came out last year. Is great. It was a movie where they have to keep walking. If they stop walking, they get shot.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's cool.

[A]

Big shout out, Stephen King. That's all. I just want to start this. Big shout out to Stephen King.

[C]

Do you remember the movie about the old car?

[A]

Herbie the Lovebug?

[C]

No, no, I think it was. It's like an old 50s car.

[D]

Oh, Christine.

[C]

Christine. Dude, that's an awesome movie. Like the car turns to life, you know, and every time it like wakes up, it plays 50s music.

[D]

Creepy, man.

[A]

Does it kill?

[C]

It runs over people.

[A]

It does kill.

[C]

It kills. Yeah.

[A]

That feels like that's not gonna get a high rating though. Like if any car that ever like turns human, I feel like they really don't get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to ratings.

[C]

Like the radio turns on and it's playing like Rockin Robin.

[A]

Tweet, tweet. And then it murders.

[C]

Killing people. Yeah, dude, it's awesome.

[A]

I also looked up because I was kind of surprised about how many things Stephen King wrote that turned into movies that I've seen that I didn't realize were Stephen King. Because I just associate all horror with him. What do you think? Now remove Stephen King all authors adaptations from books to movies. What do you think? The biggest of all time is my.

[C]

The first that comes to my mind is John Grisham.

[A]

John Grisham.

[D]

That's the one I was gonna say.

[C]

Yeah. Like he did the Firm. He did Pelican Brief. I don't know a lot of those 90s lawyer movies, Mike, you know?

[E]

Nah, I don't put money on Stephen King.

[A]

Harry Potter.

[C]

Oh, dang.

[A]

Makes sense.

[C]

Yeah, it does make sense.

[A]

$1.34 billion. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows are number one. Number two.

[C]

Stephen King.

[A]

No book adaptations. The Lord of the Rings, of course, made over a billion dollars.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Number three.

[C]

Okay, I got this one. Hunger Games.

[A]

Jurassic Park.

[C]

Dang it. Whoa.

[A]

Michael Crichton made over a billion dollars. Harry Potter at 4, the Hobbit at 5. And the Hobbit is Lord of the Rings.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

At number six. You're not guessing. It's not. It's not Tim King. So this is.

[C]

I'm out of guess.

[A]

Something that's very, very, very old. I would have thought like 1800s, but apparently, I don't know.

[C]

Maybe it is something very. Oh, the Shakespeare.

[A]

Alice in Wonderland. I'm not sure when Alice in Wonderland came out, but Lewis Carroll wrote it. It's made over a billion dollars. Wow.

[C]

Yeah. I would guess Alice in Wonderland is probably this.

[A]

You don't have to guess. You have a computer over there.

[E]

Yeah, but 1865.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

What? I would have guessed the 1800s.

[C]

I was going to guess 1960.

[A]

Oh, you didn't miss that. By 100.

[C]

By a lot.

[A]

The Da Vinci Code at seven.

[C]

Yeah. Who wrote that?

[A]

Dan Brown.

[C]

Dan Brown.

[A]

760 million. Now, finally, where to your boy, Stephen King.

[C]

Stephen King, really? And he beat John Grisham.

[A]

I don't see John Grisham yet, but Stephen King's. It has made $719 million.

[C]

Dang.

[A]

It's the biggest horror adaptation ever. That the clown? Yeah.

[C]

Does he also do the other clown spin off ones? Like what's the clown's name? Pennywise.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, don't they have other Pennywise movies?

[E]

They have the, like the remakes of it and then they have the TV show.

[A]

But those aren't all from a book. Those are just movies spun off of the book.

[C]

Right?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. These are absolute books that were written that then turn into movies. Adaptations. The hunger games at 9, from Suzanne Collins. 865 million. Did you read those?

[C]

Nah. Wow.

[A]

Awesome. I think you would like those.

[C]

You read those?

[A]

I read them before they were movies. Way before they were movies.

[C]

How many books are there?

[A]

Three, I believe Books. And I think they made four movies of those three books, and they split the last one.

[E]

And then they have the newer prequels I didn't like.

[A]

They split the last one.

[E]

I hate it when they do that.

[A]

Me, too.

[E]

Harry Potter started that.

[A]

The Chronicles of Narnia at 10.

[C]

That's the lion, Witch and the Wardrobe, right?

[A]

Yeah. You read that one?

[C]

No, I mean, in school, I think. Tried to.

[A]

Gone with the Wind makes the list.

[D]

Wow.

[A]

It's actually. If adjusted for inflation, which we didn't do. We just did the money coming in, it would have been number one. But Margaret Mitchell, Gone with the Wind in the book.

[C]

You ever seen that movie? No. It's a great movie. It's long, though. It's really long.

[A]

The Fault of Our Stars. Is that Mandy Moore or is that a long walk to remember?

[E]

You need a walk to remember.

[C]

That's a good one.

[D]

Great movie.

[A]

Harry Connick Jr. Well, I'm getting them all confused.

[C]

I think it's Mandy Morin.

[A]

The Green Mile, Life of PI, the Godfather at $250 million. Jaws was a book.

[C]

Wow. I didn't realize that.

[A]

Shawshank Redemption, which. When they say short story, though, how short and how do we read a short story?

[C]

And how do you turn that into a long movie?

[A]

Well, how do you read a short. How do you buy a short story back in the day?

[D]

Is it a novella? Is that what they call it?

[E]

I just remember reading them in school that it'd be in a textbook and they'd only be a few pages long. But I don't know, if you go out and buy a short story, I.

[C]

Bet you can Amazon Shawshank.

[A]

But you couldn't then, is my point. There was no Amazon when it came out.

[C]

Like, so why would they even write those?

[A]

Well, who's seeing it?

[C]

But you know what's interesting, too, are, like, those short movies, you know, I'm talking about, like, there's a whole category in the Oscars where it's like, short films.

[A]

Best short film.

[C]

Best short film.

[A]

Who watches that? How would you ever get those back in the day?

[C]

Right?

[A]

Like, Blockbuster didn't have that.

[D]

Gotta go to the library.

[A]

Mark. Mark. Mike, what'd you think about short films?

[E]

Sometimes they would just play them at movie theaters, like before other movies. So you'd go watch a short film or they do big compilation days where, like, it's a short film day and you just go watch.

[A]

Who would go to short film day?

[E]

I almost went to one last year.

[A]

It looked fun, but I could see now, watching a short Film because you have access to get pretty much everything. Yes, but in 1998, how were they having that? Who was seeing it?

[E]

A lot of new directors now will just put out their short film on YouTube, and then that's how they get a full feature film. Like, they see their short film, that gets their attention and they get the money to make the fool.

[D]

Oh, that makes sense.

[A]

And I hear you on that. Now I'm talking about that. That's been an award for 25, 30 years, forever.

[C]

And every time they would list the movies, I'd never heard of any of them.

[A]

I just wanted to shine a light on Stephen King.

[C]

Hey, that's cool, bro.

[A]

Know what he's doing?

[C]

Did you. Did you know that because of the trailer? Because in the trailer it says from.

[A]

The author that also written by Stephen King. Yeah, I saw that on the image on the front page.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

And so it said Stephen King. And I thought, oh, is this going to be a horror movie? And then I started watching it. It's not a horror movie at all. And then I thought, what else have I watched of his that I didn't even associate with him because I just associate with him. Horror movies.

[E]

I think you would also like the Running man, which is a remake that came out last year with Glen Powell. He also wrote that.

[C]

Originally Arnold.

[E]

Originally Arnold and then Glen Powell did it.

[A]

Was Glenn Powell good, though? I didn't see good reviews on it.

[E]

It was pretty good. It's about, like, him. Him going on a TV show where he has to stay alive. And if he does, he wins, like, millions of dollars.

[C]

And everyone's trying to kill him, right?

[E]

Yeah. Everybody in the world is, like, recording him, chasing him down. Anybody can kill him.

[A]

What? I like it.

[E]

I think you would.

[A]

Stephen King has written over 80 books. He's written 65 novels and includes seven written as Richard Bachman.

[B]

Right.

[D]

I remember hearing about that.

[A]

Why did he write as Richard Bachman?

[E]

What was it like when he first started out? Like, the Long Walk was his first ever book that he wrote under that name.

[A]

Why? So is that his real name? Because.

[D]

No, it was like an alter ego that he made up. Like, he wrote thinner.

[A]

Have you ever read a Stephen King book? Because I have not read. I've never again. I just wouldn't think to grab one. He wrote under Richard Bachmann for a few reasons. He was publishing too much. In the 70s, publishers believed an author should put out one book per year. So he. They thought that would hurt sales if he kept putting out more books. So then he was like, Fine, I'll just create somebody else. And he created Richard Bachman.

[C]

Attaboy.

[A]

And then he also wanted to know if people would still buy his books if Stephen King wasn't on the COVID because he already had success. So he wondered, could books stand on their own?

[C]

And the answer was no.

[A]

No, I think they sold.

[C]

Really?

[A]

Some of them did.

[C]

Steven Bachmann's. Whatever.

[A]

Yeah. What? Richard Bachman?

[C]

I think Richard Bachman. Overdrive.

[A]

And the Bachmann books are a little more cynical, less supernatural.

[C]

But how do you market the Long.

[A]

Walk and the man and Thinner were all written by Stephen bachman. In the 80s, a bookstore clerk noticed similarities of the two and blew the COVID And then matched copyright records and publicly exposed Bachman as King. King killed off Bachman with a fake obituary that read, richard Bachman died of pseudonym cancer.

[D]

That's funny. This also says Bachmann was inspired by Bachman. Turner Overdrive.

[C]

No way.

[A]

Stephen king Canadian. Because BTO's Canadian.

[C]

Are they Canadian?

[A]

Yeah, they did. Taking care of business every day. Taking care of business every way. Yeah. There you go.

[D]

He's born in Maine.

[A]

Hey, close enough.

[C]

It's really close up there.

[A]

He'd throw a rock over to Canada. Big shout out to Stephen King. If you haven't seen that movie. I sent Eddie a screenshot. Ronnie Dunn text me at Brooks and Dunn. I was like, what's that movie you're talking about? The Dancing Man. And I said, no, there's a Dancing man in it, but it's a walk to remember. I pictured it, not a walk to remember. I sent him the wrong movie. No, no, no, no. It was Life of Chuck.

[C]

Yeah, Life of Chuck.

[A]

And I said, hey, Because I was getting some feedback from listeners. They were like, I don't get it. And I don't want to tell you what there is to get or not get, but there is something in it that you have to understand. Oh, it's not just a movie. You watch and you take it all for what is being presented to you. There's a deeper meaning to it, and I can understand if it's not your thing or if you're not focused on it. It could be. Maybe you don't catch it. And they're like, I didn't get it. Thought it was stupid. Totally get it. He hit me up, and I was like, hey, watch this. But it depends what kind of mood you're in. You may not like it. And like, four hours later, hit me back. He was like, we really like that.

[C]

Oh, that's awesome.

[D]

Nice.

[A]

He said, what else you Got. I said, have you watched the Long Walk? Yeah. He said, already watched it. It's good. I said, okay, I'm done. I'm tapped out. That's about all I got as far as movie recommendations.

[C]

When you send me the text, I pictured Ronnie, you know, just like, on his couch on Netflix, you know, on the Search. Oh, let me text Bobby what it is.

[A]

Running Man. He watches the other one, so. Yeah, big shout out. Stephen King. Anything. Anything guys want to add to that?

[C]

No, I'm just. I'm looking forward to that movie. Only because.

[A]

Don't. Because it won't be as good as the High.

[C]

No, no. But. But the. There are so many crime movies. There are so many just movies about, like, you know, bad things happening, like crime or whatever, or, like, a murderer. And I see this trailer, and I'm like, okay, this is one movie that looks so different than everything else that's out there.

[A]

The thing is, I never saw a.

[C]

Trailer for it because I watched the trailer.

[A]

Oh, you did? Okay. So you sought it out. I didn't even know of the movie.

[C]

No. After you told me about it, I watched the trailer yesterday.

[A]

I stumbled upon the screen capture when I was just going through, and I thought, I'm drawn to that. The colors.

[C]

Yeah, it's pretty blue.

[A]

Tom Hiddleston. Huddleston.

[E]

Hiddleston.

[A]

Hiddleston.

[C]

And I told Mike, too. I'm like, man, it's. He's told me I was on Hulu, and I said, that's crazy, because I'm always on Hulu because that's where I get my life, my live tv. And I never saw that movie pop up.

[A]

Hulu kind of blows for finding new stuff because they do populate it with a lot of, like, Dateline, current stuff. So the first few roads are, like, all the normal TV stuff in series. So you don't really know unless you search it out for Hulu on that. Where Netflix. But Hulu also sucks in what you watched recently. That's like the 11th tab down, too. Yeah, you got to go way down. Where Netflix is, like, Tab 2. You're already watching this. You want to keep watching. And here's our top 10 shows of the week.

[C]

I like the top 10.

[A]

Me too.

[C]

Yes. And Hulu does not have that.

[A]

We're a couple weeks out, by the way, for this podcast. Being on Netflix.

[C]

Cool.

[A]

Coupled a few weeks.

[C]

That's amazing.

[A]

Yeah. So I wasn't actually fighting for Netflix there. I really feel that way. But then halfway through, I thought to myself, that's what. Yeah, let Me? Just say it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Hey, speaking of Bobby recommendations, I started watching paradise on Hulu. I don't know if you.

[A]

I have.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You ever heard of Hulu? Okay.

[B]

Hulu.

[D]

Dude, it's blowing my mind.

[C]

Yeah, it's different.

[D]

Great recommendation.

[A]

I loved it. I did not see the. The twist has been so talked about, but I still don't want to talk about it.

[D]

I didn't even know.

[A]

I didn't see that coming. It just looked by the previews to be an awesome show based on what they showed. And then there's another twist in it and you go, oh, that's. This is not the show I'm watching at all. I love it. And it comes back in February. Wow.

[D]

Fun fact. Long, long time ago, James Marsden hit on my wife at a bar.

[A]

Nice.

[D]

And she turned him down. I was like, what? Why would you do that?

[C]

James Marsden, he's the. He's the president.

[D]

She turned down the president of the United States.

[A]

Man. He's a really good looking older guy.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I think he's in his 50s now. And he still looks way young.

[C]

You know what's funny is he's known Mike to my kids from the Sonic and Sonic the Hedgehog.

[A]

Oh, that's right. Yeah, I know. I'm mostly from Jerry duty.

[D]

Such a good show, that show.

[A]

Nailed it. Did you ever watch it? Yeah, they've made another one. It's not out yet, but it's not a jury. I think it's. I bet Mike could search what it is. There's a different premise.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Because I think everybody then going up for joy. Dudes looking around like, is this a joke? Am I being. Yeah. Where's James Marsden?

[E]

It's a corporate retreat.

[C]

Oh, that's cool.

[D]

Going to be good.

[C]

That sounds. That sounds fun.

[A]

They go on a corporate retreat.

[C]

Did I finally saw Counting Crows or the documentary? I did.

[A]

Thoughts?

[C]

Learned a few things.

[A]

Did you enjoy watching it?

[C]

I did. I mean, I'm such a fan that.

[A]

I loved watching it. Yeah.

[C]

But overall I was ready for it to end.

[A]

Really?

[C]

Yeah. I mean, I loved the stories. I got some stories that I'd never heard of before. There were some stories.

[A]

Cool.

[C]

That he's. That he's told here, you know, in the studio. And I was like, that's crazy. He told it here the exact way he told in the documentary. Love that. But he just got a little. He got a little whiny for me.

[A]

After my wife says about his music.

[C]

But I don't see that in the music. Like, and maybe the music is like, oh, that's art.

[D]

Cool.

[C]

That's whiny and everything, whatever. But in person, like, I was like, all right, dude. I'm kind of like, I'm done. It. I feel for him that he had to go through things like that and maybe still goes through things like that. But I was kind of done hearing about it.

[A]

The documentary is on hbo, Max. It's part of the Music Box series, and it's called Counting Crows. Have you seen me lately?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I loved it, but I'm a massive Counting Crows fan, as is Eddie. It's my favorite band. My favorite band, Counting Crows. And I thought it was fantastic. And I'd never heard of the disorder he had, the disassociative disorder.

[C]

Never heard of that. And I felt bad for him. I did. But after watching the whole documentary, I'm like, oh, I'm ready for this to be over.

[A]

You don't want to hear about it anymore.

[C]

I'm kind of done. But you know what, though? I think the cool, cool stories in that is. I didn't know the Viper Room situation.

[A]

When he went and just, like, tended bar for a while because he could feel normal.

[C]

Yeah. And the band's like, are we still a band or are we not a band?

[A]

Because he'd been gone. Yeah.

[C]

But it really helped him out to become him. And the dread story, too.

[A]

Mm. I always thought he was black because of the dreads. Yep.

[D]

I could see that.

[A]

Or at least.

[C]

But he's very white.

[A]

But at least.

[C]

Or part.

[A]

I still am not convinced he's not some black.

[C]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. What is he like? You know what I am. I did the 23andMe. I think that's the one I did.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And I got, like, a little Irish, some German, some. But it's all as Caucasian as you could possibly be.

[C]

I mean, you're a white dude.

[A]

The white.

[D]

He's Jewish.

[C]

Durance.

[A]

Interesting. Yeah. So did people hate on him for having dreads where they say he was, like, appropriating?

[C]

Oh, I don't know.

[A]

Is that even a thing, then? Yeah, I always thought. I always thought Fergie was black, too, for the record.

[C]

Yeah, I'm with you on that. Where I'm still convinced she could be.

[D]

I thought that until the national anthem.

[A]

Mmm. You know, that was a bad one. Yeah. I guess I never thought about it until I heard the dreads thing. And I was like, wait, why would people care that he had dreads?

[C]

Yeah. I don't know. I thought it was interesting that he kind of had never really felt like Himself until he got dreads, and then.

[A]

He'S like, maybe I need dreads, dude.

[C]

You come in tomorrow with dreads.

[A]

I'm so white, though. It just wouldn't work. It'd be for sure appropriation.

[C]

I know for sure. If I had hair, I would definitely try to do dreads.

[A]

You probably could, though, because I think the less white you get, the more you can do dreads generally. I have seen white guys with dreads, but I think dreads are so cool.

[C]

I think they're so cool.

[A]

Like, I have black friends that have dreads, and they look so cool. And then I've known a couple of white guys. They just look dirty.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

They don't look good on white guys.

[C]

Like, my wife, if she doesn't wash her hair in, like, a couple of weeks, she start.

[A]

They start dreading.

[C]

Yeah, Right up a little bit.

[A]

Yeah. Music box. Counting Crows. Have you seen me lately? Really liked it. And you watched the other one?

[C]

I loved it. What's the other one?

[A]

Hallelujah. Jeff Buckley.

[C]

Jeff Buckley. Hallelujah. Loved it. Is it called Hallelujah? No.

[A]

That's what I think you have on hand.

[C]

I don't think that's what it's called.

[A]

The Jeff Buckley win.

[C]

I love that one.

[A]

I know. We talked about that.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor, And we're back.

[A]

On the Bobby cast. Let's do a concert questionnaire, and all three of us can answer these. You can relive one concert you've already seen. So you had to go to this concert, but you get to go back to this concert and relive it. Which concert do you go back to, Eddie?

[C]

Dang.

[A]

Do you do Hawaii?

[C]

I mean, that's the first one that comes to my mind, but I'm trying to think, like, early. Early on, you know, you start thinking like, your first few concerts are so impressionable to just this young. You going to a concert for the first time, seeing someone perform on stage. But my first two were, like, Clint Black and George Strait, and they were awesome, and I'll never forget them.

[A]

But, like, respect. Like, different.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

They weren't together. Got it.

[C]

But I'm happy with that experience. I wouldn't care to go back. Pearl Jam opening up for U2 in Hawaii at. What's the stadium called? Aloha Stadium.

[A]

Brandon, you get to go back to one concert that you've already seen. What is it?

[D]

Probably 2004, the Cotton Bowl. It was the very first Crossroads Guitar Festival. We got there at, like, 7am and got front row. We're on the DVD. It's Eric Clapton, B.B. king, Buddy Guy, Carlos Santana, Joe Walsh, John Mayer.

[A]

Who was there with you?

[D]

Me, my brother, and our best friend Chad. And we drove like five hours.

[C]

Chad made it.

[D]

Chad. Chad was there.

[A]

I'm gonna be that dude, though. I don't think you can call a festival on every arts the festival. I think you can go one. You can go one because mine's at a festival. I didn't do the who festival. I did the one artist.

[D]

Okay, okay, okay.

[A]

You just picked the greatest hits album. Sorry. As far as, like, what's the best album ever?

[D]

You're right.

[A]

You did that thing. I'm gonna go. So I'm not doing all of acl, but I saw John Mayer play ACL in the rain. And I. What I would do different is I would just wear different clothes because I got so wet, like, all cotton. But it was super cool.

[C]

That was when it got real muddy, right?

[A]

Yeah, the vibe was awesome. It was like one of the first times I'd seen John Mayer do a full length show because he's been, you know, my favorite solo artist forever. So that's what I would do.

[C]

What was the. The rain situation for him? Like, did he just play?

[A]

And that's why it was cool.

[C]

That's really awesome.

[D]

Okay, I. I have one. And this is.

[A]

That counts, by the way. I hate to be that guy.

[D]

No, no, I. I agree. That's. That's a good point. When I was about 12 years old, this is like, right before I'm. Before I start playing guitar. I was a big Creed fan. Sorry, Eddie, but Creed's playing United Spirit arena in Lubbock, Texas. But it wasn't Creed that I, like, freaked out about.

[C]

There we go.

[D]

Dude. Collective Soul was their. Their main support. It was another band, Collective Soul. And then Creed. And that night, that moment was when I was like, I want to play guitar.

[A]

Like, this made you want to play guitar, dude.

[D]

Everything about that band, like. And, dude, he called somebody out up in the. Up in the boxes. Like, people are watching TV in their boxes, and he stops the show. He's like, this is what I'm talking about.

[A]

You know, we're charging as the main support, not even as the headliner.

[D]

He's like, going off. He's like, we have to charge, like, all this money for concert tickets, and people can barely afford it. And look at this jackass up here. He's. He's watching TV during the concert. Like, f you, man.

[C]

We're like, yeah, the guy probably has no idea you're talking about him. He's like.

[A]

And it's just a feed of the concert. He's like, it's on television. He's getting yelled at because he's watching the feed. It's like, no, no, I didn't even turn this on. My neck hurts. And it's you guys. If you could see any artist you've never seen that's alive and be front row, who would it be?

[C]

Yeah, Taylor Swift. Yeah, I'd love. I'd love to see that show. I just. When that show came around, I couldn't. I mean, there. You can't get a hookup, quote, unquote hookup for that. And it's too expensive.

[A]

So this is a harder question for me because I feel like anybody that's alive that I've really wanted to see, I have been able to see. Unless I go back to living, because then I would probably go like, Paul McCartney.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

That'd be cool, too, if he plays. And he does play a lot of the Beatles stuff.

[C]

He just finished his tour, I think, American tour.

[A]

So I have to go to that older spot. Because I've seen anybody that's making current music relevant, super relevant. I think I've been. If I wanted to go. But I think it'd be really cool to go front row. Paul McCartney, that'd be mine.

[C]

That'd be awesome. And my mom just went to go see him, and it was so special to her because she, you know, she's been a fan of the Beatles since she was a little girl. She was like, I've never, ever seen. I never got to see the Beatles. Never have seen Paul McCartney in concert. And here she is at like, you know, 78 years old, watching Paul McCartney play. It was really cool.

[D]

She said, brandon, I have to agree with the Paul McCartney thing. I've never, I've never seen him. All of my family, like, my. My father in law has seen him. My father in law saw the Beatles at Mets Stadium.

[C]

Wow. That was like the. Where it got crazy, right?

[D]

Oh, it was insane. And so just. Just hearing all of his stories and like reading Paul's books and just following that would just be incredible.

[A]

I think I would have possibly picked John Fogerty because I was a massive CCR fan. Still am. But we saw him at iHeartRadio music festival.

[C]

We've seen him, man.

[A]

He's 80 and can still go.

[C]

Awesome.

[A]

Yeah. Can still. I would say he sounds eight out of ten.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

To what you would think. Not three out of ten doing an impression of John Fogarty.

[C]

Eight out of ten. And he is older.

[A]

He's 80 plus.

[C]

80 plus where like your voice just can't do stuff like that. And his music requires high singing, high and intense.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And he slowly walks out there and then he's like, hit a me. He kills it. I watched the documentary of Chevy Chase and mentioned this on the show. It's called I'm Chevy Chase and you're not. And the whole documentary is basically showing how hard he was to work with, but also showing his life. And he's in his 80s now and he moves slow and still makes little jokes and stuff. But then I was thinking of that, like when Fogarty came in, moved a little slow but went hard.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Chevy Chase moves a little slow. And I think he just is the normal 83 year old at this point. Yeah. Have you watched that?

[D]

Dude, I've seen clips. It's. It's crazy.

[A]

It doesn't make me like him less.

[D]

Really.

[C]

Because you kind of expected that from him anyway.

[A]

Yeah, the expectation was he's difficult to work with, but then you understand why it was difficult to work with. And like the abuse he went through as a kid that made him like he is. Oh, they kind of do that. Let's show the villain why the villain's the villain. And it, it doesn't justify how at times he treated people. But like all of his friends that came on this, or people, some people didn't want to come on, but they were like, yeah, man, he's a dick. But you just always knew he was a dick. But he was so funny. And a lot of people interpreted him being a dick for he was just doing his comedy even with people that weren't comedy people. So I can see why people did not like him. But I also can see why he was so famous and funny. And it's a good documentary.

[C]

His movies were just funny. I loved so many of his movies.

[A]

I don't think I can be friends with them.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Oh, no, I don't think he wants to be friends with anyone.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Is that the vibe?

[A]

But I could definitely understand how. Why he made it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's also. He was really good looking too. Super funny. Really good looking back in the day. But it's. It's on CNN right now. But I watched it on demand on YouTube TV, like cable? Because. But then it comes out on HBO Max in a few weeks.

[C]

Okay, good. Because I saw it exclusively on something else that I. Cnn.

[A]

But you can find it On Demand on CNN on Demand on if you have hulu live or YouTube live. What artist did you love until you saw them live? I'll go first. I didn't read these questions ahead of time either, but I'll go first because I have an answer. And I don't think it's that I love them less, but I just realized they are not good live because I can still love their music. And what is unfortunate now is this person is sick and he's still out performing and go for it, and it's still fun to see him. But this is before he was sick. He still wasn't good live. It was Everclear.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Art Alexis.

[C]

We saw him when he wasn't sick, and it still wasn't.

[A]

I love Everclear. I love so much of the afterglow before that. I love Sparkle and Fade, I think is what the album was massive. I even love the story, like, he was older when they hit and he was trading, like, work for studio time in a garage. He's like 30 years old. Everclear was a massive part of my college life. Saw them play live. Saw him play live at, like, a winery. Did you. We go to that together?

[D]

No, I went with you there.

[A]

Yeah. It was one of you. Yeah, one of yous. I went with one of you.

[C]

So he played solo?

[A]

Yep. It was him. Marcy Playground. Lead singer.

[D]

Yeah. And who sings this? Oh, it's all about pride.

[A]

Eve 6. They were all the lead singers. One more.

[C]

Dude, Was it Jim Blossom's guy?

[A]

No, Fountains of Wayne. Fountains of Wayne. Sexy's mom.

[D]

Oh, dude, the guy. And he passed away. The singer did during COVID Oh, I didn't hear that. Yeah, the. The main songwriter of Fountains of Wayne. There was two guys there, but the singer passed away. The. The guitar player that was with him.

[A]

But not the singer.

[D]

I don't think so.

[A]

Got it.

[D]

He also wrote that thing.

[A]

No, I'm just kidding. I have no idea. I just.

[C]

I just thought that he was talking about the singer.

[A]

We went, yeah, me.

[C]

That sounds awesome.

[A]

Brandon. We went to, and it was those four lead singers and the Marshall.

[C]

I must have been sick then. For sure. Yeah. Like, why didn't I go with you? That sounds like something we would 100 go to.

[A]

Because I think we all talked about it and Brandon and I went because you would have gone for sure.

[C]

I must have had Covid. I think I had Covet.

[A]

It was pre Covid.

[D]

29, 2018, maybe.

[C]

I don't know.

[D]

Yeah, you probably did.

[C]

Don't understand why I wasn't There.

[A]

The Marcy Playground guy came out first and played like three songs because that's. And they have one. He hasn't. But they played two other ones too. It was good. And then Eve said, yeah, and I think Art Alexis closed.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

He headlined, but it was. He couldn't sing.

[C]

Do you remember that, Brandon?

[D]

I do, yeah. It was. It was great. I mean, it was fun.

[A]

Even him singing bad because we sang with him and it was in a winery.

[C]

So we. We saw him a while back and he couldn't sing. So did you.

[A]

Full concert?

[C]

Yes. So when you went to this one, did you kind of expect, like, oh, it was probably a bad night. Let's see how he does.

[A]

Today is a bit different because when we saw him, we went to legit. Like a. Like an. It wasn't an arena, but a small was.

[C]

It was ACL Live. Right.

[A]

So it was an ACL Live.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Is that an arena? It's. It's not really a theater. It's bigger than a theater. Regardless.

[C]

Modern day theater we went.

[A]

But they had instruments.

[D]

Oh.

[A]

Because Gin Blossoms open.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Marcy Playground was there. Their full band opened. Sugar Ray played.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Everclear play. As you can see. You see the kind of concerts we go to. It was so awesome because they had so much music and there were drums and guitars. I didn't feel like Art Alexis was so bad. That show, I think they masked it with music. When Brandon and I went to the winery to watch it, it was just him and an acoustic guitar and it was just him playing sitting up there. So it was more. He was more vulnerable.

[C]

Yeah, for sure.

[A]

Yeah. And he's out playing now and he's sick. I think he has. You know, I don't want to guess his ailment.

[C]

I was about to guess. I'm like, it's not a fun game. Let's see.

[D]

Let's see what he got.

[A]

And I'm rooting for him.

[D]

Oh, he's got Ms.

[A]

Okay. And he's still playing and awesome. But yeah, I would say that that was not a good one for me.

[C]

I'm gonna go Bob Dylan. But I still.

[A]

Oh, yeah, good one.

[C]

I still love Bob Dylan and I love his music. I love his. His albums and I love listening to him still. But, man, live, I don't recommend that for anyone.

[A]

So I went and saw him at ACL Festival, and I'm not a fan. I'm more of a fan now of his story and what he means to songwriting. After watching the movie, reading the book first, then watching the book he wrote. I forget. Yeah, I think so.

[C]

That was a good book.

[A]

I think so. I read it so long ago and it was kind of boring to me. But I still, like, understood why the people that I like like him.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But his music, except for the hits, was not something I was drawn to. Right. So he was just playing at acl and I walked over. Now he was doing songs I never even heard of either.

[C]

But no, no, they probably were.

[A]

That's.

[C]

They were probably the hits. You just can't understand them.

[A]

I don't. I'm not even a hater.

[C]

I'm not hating either. Because I love Bob Dylan.

[A]

I didn't love him enough for it to affect me in a negative way. I just walked off, dude.

[C]

The crazy one was, I saw him. It was a dual tour of Willie Nelson and Bob Dylan. And they were playing baseball stadiums. And I went and I think Willie Nelson played first. It was awesome. It was great. Willie's amazing. Then Bob Dylan comes out, and for the first five or six songs, like, it's inaudible. Like, you can't.

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

You're really playing music trivia with his music. Like, is that like a rolling Stone.

[A]

Because of the sound or because of his.

[C]

The way he's singing, it kind of sings like that. And you don't really understand. So people started leaving. Like, I'm talking. I would say 60% of the crowd just left. Wow. And that's why. And 40% of us were there. And I stayed. I'm like, I'm such a fan. I've never really seen him before, so I'm gonna stay. And he sings. He finishes whatever song he's singing. Then he had a hat on. I remember the hat was really low. And he kind of picks the hat up, looks up and goes, welcome, Bob Dylan fans.

[A]

Oh.

[C]

And then he goes into like a Rolling Stone, and it was crystal clear. And I'm like, did he do that on purpose to weed out the non fans?

[A]

Just test it all, you guys.

[C]

I feel like he's that kind of dude where, like, I feel like he's.

[A]

Like Chevy Chase too, like, difficult, probably very difficult. Knows exactly who he is as an artist, is kind of a dick.

[C]

I've heard the opposite. I've heard multiple people that have met him, hung out with him, and he's like, he is the nicest person you'll ever meet. Wow. Because I thought the same thing. I'm like, oh, I wouldn't want to meet Bob Dylan.

[A]

Because I feel like somebody that would do that to run people off to test them.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

I feel like that was just a fun game to him. Like, let's see how many.

[A]

That feels like what a dick would do. Sure.

[E]

But.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

I have a question for the Counting Crows fans in the room.

[A]

We're Die Hards.

[D]

I know.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

You hate when he changes the songs up.

[D]

And I'm.

[A]

They talk about that in the documentary, too.

[D]

Well, that's what I was going to ask you guys about, like, you know, Die Hard. Bob Dylan fans. They don't care because they just love Bob Dylan. But do you guys a. Do you notice that whenever you see them, Counting Crows?

[C]

Oh, yeah, we noticed that.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

We know it's coming, too.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

You do?

[D]

Do you care? Does it bother you? Like, do you wish he would stay?

[A]

So the last show that Eddie and I went to together, he actually played them 85 to 90%. Right on. And we were surprised by that. I think I would compare it to. I went and I went to the. And saw the Mona Lisa, right? So I go to the Louvre, and I've never seen the Mona Lisa before. And I'd heard by so many people that it's so. You're going to be so shocked at how small it is. In my head, it was a postage stamp. So when I finally saw. Wasn't a postage stamp. It was like a TV screen, I was like, this thing's bigger than I thought. Because I had the expectation that it was so small. I didn't go to a bunch of Counting Crows shows.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

So I just heard Forever. They suck live. They don't play songs like they're supposed to. So I go to a show the first time we're in Austin, and I love Counting Curls, but I've never been to a show. I'm going, these are going to be all songs that I know the words to, but every one of them is going to be completely out of sync. And so I go with the attitude of I'm just going because I like them. And they played, like, half of the songs, and I was like, oh, that's not a postage stamp at all. Yeah, that's like dv. And so. Because my expectation was they change every song. The fact that they did half the songs, it didn't land on me negatively. There were people around me, they're like, this sucks. Because they didn't know that he gets bored like Bob Dylan does and just changes songs up. The show that Eddie and I went to recently, because I've probably seen them now four or five times. Like, I said, he did 80 to 90% all the right way. And we were shocked.

[D]

Wow.

[A]

Because our expectation was he's going to change up all these songs. And when he played Mr. Jones Normally, it was abnormal to us.

[C]

Yeah. Like, wait, why, why isn't he changing.

[A]

This up good enough to get an original version? But if you watch on TikTok, people will get upset when they play songs differently because they don't know that's what he does a lot.

[C]

And they've been doing that forever. Yep, forever. So, yeah, it doesn't bother me. I like it.

[A]

Awesome. I like it because I know he's gonna do it. And when he doesn't do it, I like it even more when he does it. Originally, the original version. Good question, man. I want your answer to that. That question. Who did you see? This is tough for you as an artist. You've opened for a lot of people. You're in the biz. This person may hit you up and want to beat you up.

[D]

Yeah, maybe I need to go back.

[C]

No.

[D]

And maybe I saw them on, on and off night, but it was Guns N Roses, man.

[A]

Were they old?

[C]

Recent?

[A]

Was it a comeback?

[D]

It was recent. Yeah, it might have been, actually. Might have been like four years ago. There were parts of the show that were great. Oh, this is like welcome to the Jungle was spot on.

[A]

Did he sound like old Axl on.

[D]

Some songs and then. And then other songs? It was like, what. What is happening? Like, this is like, this is horrible.

[C]

Was he changing the, the, the song structure or was it just his voice? Couldn't keep up with it?

[D]

Was his voice like, you know, he's got that low, low thing and then he goes. And he couldn't like regulate it.

[A]

Also, he was having trouble keeping it. It wasn't that he was consciously going, I'm just not going to sing this song the same way.

[D]

Yeah, exactly. And that whole diva mentality, like you, you saw it start to come out, you know, like he was like yelling at his crew and then he would say things like the crowd wasn't into it enough and is like, dude, this is a sold out Bridgestone arena show. Like, people are giving it all they got. It was just. It just left. It made me understand what people were talking about.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Even though I'm still. I'm a huge Guns N Roses fan. Whatever. But it was just like, would I go see them again? I don't know.

[A]

And after you guys walked off, he goes the real fans again now.

[D]

Welcome.

[C]

He learned it from Bob.

[A]

I. I saw clips. I didn't go. But similarly, and I Think it's just if people come back in their old. And they had a distinct way of singing, they can't do it. You feel bad for them. But when I. When I watch clips of AC dc.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

It made me feel bad. I'd still like to go to the show.

[D]

Me too.

[A]

But it's that register man, Brian Johnson and then also even Angus playing guitar there. They have to be 80 years old too.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And he runs around a lot. He's not really able to. That's hard, dude.

[C]

Do you know who still. Well, it's been. It's been probably seven or eight years that I've seen him, but the Rolling Stones. I know they had to cancel a tour or whatever been. And I know when I saw them about eight years ago, they rocked.

[D]

Did you see them at Nissan?

[C]

At Nissan.

[D]

Me too, man. I was there.

[C]

And that's one of those where I was just like so shocked that they were still so good.

[A]

So a question, and this maybe not be a fair question I had heard, could be completely false here, that they have a band Back behind playing as well. No, Back Behind Underneath. If you pay attention to Keith Richards, he's off a lot. You can hear it. But it's like. But they have a band setting all the fundamentals up for them and they kind of play over the top of that band. Not tracks, but a band you can't see. Do you think that's true?

[C]

I think that it's probably true. But I did hear Mess Ups, Keith.

[A]

Richards and that's probably the old guys having their instruments still on the sound.

[C]

Guys like, oh, crap.

[D]

Oh, man.

[C]

You know? But like. Yeah. Do you remember Keith Richards guitar? Like you can hear it where it's like, oh, that. Which sounds like Guitar Hero, you know.

[A]

When you hit the wrong button.

[D]

Yeah, which. Which. That's the Keith Richard. It's that sloppy jangly thing. But I don't think that's true.

[A]

That's what I have when I play a sloppy jangly thing. It's my actual thing. It's my actual slop. All jangle.

[C]

But dude, Mick Jagger was just like. He moved a lot up and down the stage. His hair looked great and he sounded awesome.

[D]

The Bobby cast, We'll be right back.

[A]

This is the Bobby cast. I have two questions left. What ruins a concert for you? I'll go first in that it wasn't the fault, but I went to see Tom Petty once and they couldn't get the sound right. And the crowd the whole time yelling, turn it up, Turn it up. And Tom Petty's playing and only the first part can hear it. And the crowd in the back, like, turn it up. We can't hear. And like, three songs went through and then finally there was like a button that was pushed full sound. So that was bad. I don't mind.

[C]

So is it the sound or the crowd?

[A]

That was a sound issue. Okay, but the sound. But if the crowd wouldn't have yelled, they wouldn't have got it ever. All of it was annoying.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But that. Very much an outlier. Like, I don't think that that happens a whole lot. I don't mind phones. Some people be like, man, a phone. It doesn't hurt me if you're holding the phone up. Like, I don't mind phones. I don't like when people talk or yell during slow. During ballads. At the. At the singer. Like, let's say somebody sitting down at a piano.

[C]

I love you.

[A]

And he's like, yeah, well, I just heard I love you.

[B]

Great.

[A]

It's like, bro, bro, we're here.

[C]

And everyone hears them. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Like when those slow down moments happen. I like it when everybody slows down and lets the guy do the thing because it's a vulnerable point.

[C]

I agree with that.

[A]

That's. That ruins it for me. Or when someone's just trying to, like, yell a joke, get a joke in when someone's playing something slow. Or it's a. I hate that. That one off person who's trying to get the spotlight when it's not their spotlight to have. Brandon.

[D]

Yeah, I mean, there's all of that. I mean, I guess depending on where you're sitting, just. Just people talking constantly or getting drunk. Just like, just. Just go somewhere else, man.

[A]

Like, yeah, drunk's tough, you know, but talking, like having a full blown loud conversation during a ballad.

[C]

Yeah. Quiet song.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, you can. They're doing higher. We're going to creed all the time. Talk to your buddy. But when they're doing arms wide open and you want to hear the. The heartbeat.

[C]

Shush.

[A]

Shut up.

[D]

Come on.

[A]

Okay, Eddie.

[C]

Yeah, I'm gonna stick with the crowd. I think the crowd's usually what ruins it for me. But specifically, I like to stand up at concerts. I don't like to sit down and watch the show. And I've had multiple moments where crowd members have been like, can you please sit down? Or like, oh, stand up the whole show. And you see them kind of move because I'm standing up and jumping and enjoying the concert.

[D]

You're what they hate about the show.

[C]

So I Think like yeah, you're their.

[A]

Crowd that they hate.

[C]

I hate that people don't really get into the shows, you know, like as much as I think they should.

[A]

A little bit, isn't it Read the room in those situations like I get universally. You bought a ticket. You can stand up. But again if you're at a Nora Jones concert, I don't know why I didn't and you're standing up and that's a sit down show.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

That happened at. Who's the one that has the music with the. The puppies that are McLaughlin.

[A]

It was a Sarah McLachlan show in the arms.

[D]

You're standing up and we're standing up, man.

[A]

But see, I think that's rude of you. You fairly can't. You're legally can. Right, but it's rude. It's also kind of rude at a show if you're standing up the whole time. If everybody around you. What I'll do if everybody around me standing up. I stand up and say up. If everybody around me sits down. I'm not going to be the one guy in an Aqua Lung concert that's standing up. Because everybody behind me is like wanting to just sit and enjoy the show.

[C]

Aqualung. I feel you gotta get up and jump.

[A]

No, Aqualung was a piano concert.

[C]

Not brighter than Sunshine.

[A]

It was a piano concert.

[C]

Dude. I just think to me is like you can do whatever you want and if you're bothering people, which I wasn't bothering anyone.

[A]

You can stand up, but you are bothering someone. If it's again, I'm not.

[C]

Look, I wasn't in front of the wheelchair aisle. Dude. They can stand up too with me.

[A]

I hear you. You're not wrong. You're not wrong. I just say I read the room and just like I don't like to talk loud during a slow song. If the everybody around me is not standing up. And it's one of those sit down moments where you really focus. I. I sit down?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

You ever see those South American shows of like rock bands going to South America and the whole freaking.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

It's like arena is jumping.

[A]

You're trying to do that Sarah McLaughlin. And you know what? That's annoying.

[C]

I'm just saying I think in America we need to get into our concerts here, man. They wanted the artist wants us to.

[A]

People get into concerts differently.

[D]

Yeah, right.

[A]

Different songs are meant to be gotten into different ways.

[C]

I remember I was at a Band of Horses concert and I was just jumping up and down and the people around me after Two or three songs started jumping with me and they're like, we love your energy. I'm like, thank you. Let's go.

[A]

That's awesome. I like that. I like that for you.

[D]

That's really cool.

[C]

I don't think you would have been that guy.

[A]

However, if we're to Ray Lamontagne show, that's beautiful. And you're jumping around when it's supposed to be accepted and beautiful. It's just the room. It's read the room.

[D]

Yeah, there's concert etiquette for sure. And it's on all sides, man. Just, you know, we were, we were at Bryan Adams at Bridgestone.

[C]

That's a stand up show for me.

[D]

Oh my God.

[A]

Like, yeah, if there's like momentum and yeah.

[C]

But even everything I do, I do it for you.

[A]

I'm still everybody standing up for sure.

[D]

But there's a, there's a woman and I mean, he's got an older crowd. She's literally talking on her cell phone.

[A]

Oh, man.

[D]

Speaker phone face timing with. With the person, you know, watching the show and she's like so good.

[E]

Right?

[D]

And you can hear, you can hear the person on the speakerphone trying to sing the song. Oh my. Dude. It was just like, somebody get her out of here. Like, this is awful.

[C]

Okay, okay. See, that's a question for you guys. Singing along. I've had people where I've sat around them and they're singing so loud that I can't hear the artists that I'm there to see.

[A]

I think it's a read the room type thing again. I think it's a understand the etiquette based on what everybody else is doing as well. Yeah, if.

[C]

But you know, you're not a good singer and you could ruin what the person, the people around you are hearing.

[A]

By everybody's singing along. You can be the worst thing in the world. Sing as loud and proud as you can because it's a sing along song. Again, If Alanis is up there doing Unforgiven, is that one of her songs?

[C]

That's Metallica.

[A]

No, but wait, what's the one that goes. She's uninvited. Thank you. There you go. Nobody even said that in my ear.

[C]

I just get that. Thank you.

[A]

Thank you me for getting there. If she's doing uninvited and you're singing so loud when it's one of those moments again that it's supposed to be her moment, then you need to shut up. I don't care if you sing really good. It's just I don't. People that don't have the. We'll call it emotional intelligence to understand why you should act a certain way when you should act a certain way based on the emotion of what's coming from the stage. I get irritated at that.

[D]

Here's a question for you as a performer.

[A]

Like, you're not a performer times ten, but. No, no, no.

[C]

Like, we'd love to know this from you.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Well, no, no, no.

[A]

Like, Brandon is a far greater performer than any of us ever.

[C]

You've been on a stage.

[A]

So you've been on a stage. Riddle me this. You know what it's like.

[D]

Yes. Well, both. Both of you guys. And I'm specifically talking about your. Your fan base. Like, raging idiots, comedy fan base.

[A]

All that stuff.

[D]

All that stuff. What is your biggest, biggest pet peeve about an audience?

[A]

Like, oh, if I'm telling jokes and people are talking. None. Shut it down. Because it's all timing.

[C]

But what about talking to you?

[A]

I don't care.

[C]

That's what I'm.

[A]

Yeah, don't care. Don't talk.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

If I'm playing music and you're singing along, that's okay. I love it because there's music. If I'm talking, the silence is as much a part of the act as the talking is. So you're stepping on words I'm saying that are getting laughs or gaps. I'm leaving to get a laugh based on the next word that I'm saying, even. And it's hard to not scold an audience if they're, like, lovingly talking to you, but it still interrupts everything. Like, I'm like, hey, so went out yesterday, did it? I love you. It's hard to be angry at someone that's telling you they love you, but what they're doing is ruining that for everybody else.

[D]

So true.

[A]

What I've had to do in those situations is if you just don't pay any attention to it, even though it's so obviously out there presented to you that if it's bothersome or if it's loving or whatever it is, it's. It's ruining the product. You cannot let the audience in, or they're all gonna think they can get in by acknowledging. You can't acknowledge it at all. Good, bad, indifferent. You just have to go. And if they keep doing it, then you have to stop the show. And I've done that before and go, man, it's weird to have to get onto somebody for being so loving. Yeah, and I love you back. But all these People paid for a ticket, right?

[C]

Yeah, he's done that before.

[D]

Yeah, you have. You definitely have.

[A]

The.

[D]

The last time you guys played at the Opry, what I loved was when you guys were asking people to clap, and then they got off, and you're like, stop clapping.

[A]

You're running across. We can't keep up.

[C]

I feel like we never learn on that one.

[A]

Yeah. Normal clapping, so. But you're doing a good job. Crowd, but we can't keep up.

[D]

They loved every second of it. It's so funny.

[A]

And in music, that's a lot easier to do.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Because there's music and you can't. But if you're just talking and someone's talking, it would be that comparable to if we're playing music and someone brings out a guitar from the crowd and starts playing a guitar in the middle of it.

[C]

Yeah. What the.

[A]

It's the same way as talking during talking.

[D]

Okay. How do you feel about doing Q and A's after your comedy shows?

[A]

After.

[C]

Why are you laughing?

[A]

Well, they're nightmares.

[D]

Oh, dude. This guy. This drunk guy, like, went off on Bobby in this beautiful theater, and his. And his. His wife is just hiding because he's just.

[A]

He's just yelling at Bob, yelling for no reason. Yeah. And it's like, you don't want to, like, have somebody removed because they're obviously a fan or. Yeah, that's. That's tough. The weirdest part about Q and A is. The weirdest part about any of that is. Or even meet and greets is when people want to, like, kiss you or touch you, and we're like, oh, I just want to give you. And, like, I appreciate you being here, but I don't. I don't want your germs.

[D]

So I'm sorry about that, by the way.

[A]

Yeah, no, that's how Brandon got it.

[D]

I hadn't seen you in a while.

[A]

All right, that's it. Thank you, boys, for hopping in.

[C]

Thank you, man. That's fun.

[A]

Thank you, everybody, for listening. If you got to this end, at the end of this Bobby cast, we appreciate it. And Eddie, chill out.

[C]

I.

[A]

When life out hanging by a moment, you don't need to stand up and do the wave.

[E]

Just take it in.

[C]

Long December. Dude, I'm standing up, man.

[A]

Thank you, guys, for listening. Soon. As of right now, we're not able to say yet. We know. But this show will be on Netflix. We have a lot of great artists lined up for those first few episodes, but for now, we'll just keep talking ourselves. Big shout out to Stephen King, Richard Bachman.

[C]

Shout Out.

[A]

Yeah. And you guys. All right, that's it. Thank you, guys. We'll see you guys next week.

[D]

Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.

[B]

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[C]

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[B]

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