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BOBBYCAST - Maury Povich on “You Are NOT The Father” + Covering Watergate & Martin Luther King Jr. Riots as a Journalist + Why He Still Loves Interviewing People + WWE Superstar Chelsea Green on Carrying Championship Belts Through Airports + The Misc...
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Bobby Bones
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Chelsea Green
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Maury Povich
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Bobby Bones
The exact same thing.
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Maury Povich
You are listening to me, which, let's.
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Bobby Bones
Be honest, is kind of flattering. But my point Is, ads on iHeartRadio actually get heard in the car, at.
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Maury Povich
The gym, on the couch, while people.
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Bobby Bones
Are walking their dogs. Who's a good boy? Who's a good boy?
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Maury Povich
You're a good boy. That's right, dude.
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Can we get a Thanksgiving first?
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Chelsea Green
I'm hungry. What's up, y'? All?
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Sophie Cunningham
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Chelsea Green
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Chelsea Green
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Sophie Cunningham
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Chelsea Green
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Sophie Cunningham
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Maury Povich
Bobby, in the case of your little baby, you are the father. Yes, yes, it's me.
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Bobby Bones
Episode 560. We're doubling up. Double up Maury Povich. We'll talk to him for half hour and then we'll get over to Chelsea Green after that. I can kind of tell you a bit about both, but I'll do Maury first. I mean, Maury was what would be on all the time if you happened to be at home in the daytime on a weekday when you were a kid.
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Maury Povich
Yeah, I was a kid.
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Bobby Bones
I didn't know what was going on.
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Maury Povich
But I watched it.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, for the most part, about 30% I had no clue. 20% I thought was kind of bad. I was like, oh, I shouldn't be watching this. And the other 50% I got. But yeah, it was interesting because he was one of those that was kind of like the heyday of daytime talk where it was obviously Oprah and then she kind of elevated and back in the day it was Phil Donahue way back in the day. Sally Jesse, Mari, Ricki Lake, like, there were like seven or eight of those guys. Jerry Springer ended up coming about. It was the golden age of those daytime sit down in a studio talk shows that ended up just getting big ratings because they would do things like, you're not the father. That's what Maury now is known most for because the clips are going viral again and then people are also like recreating them. And so I can read you a little bit about this because I really loved talking with Maury. I didn't know he was 80 years old. Yeah, he's with it. He's one of the most with it. 80 year olds I think I've ever talked to because we were talking with him and before we started I was like, oh, man, this is going to be cool. Because Maury is like a big part of like my television childhood viewing. And it's a pop culture. Big part of pop culture. But I was like, guy, he's kind of old, may have to like help him through it. Didn't have to help him through it at all. He was even dressed in golf gear as we were doing the interviews. So you knew he had been out on the course before that. So Maury Povich, the king of talk tv, is back. He's got on par with Maury Povich podcast season two. And you can check it out. He has such a history in.
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Journalism. His dad, and he talks about this, was at the Washington Post for 75 years. And then Maury ends up being really serious in journalism. He covered.
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From Martin Luther King that I had a dream speech to Nixon to. I mean, he had done it all before. He had just kind of backed into doing daytime television. And we talk about that story. But I really enjoyed this. So we're going to get to Maury, and then after that, we'll talk to Chelsea Green, who is. If you watch the Netflix series. What was that even called? Unreal. Yeah, it's where they showed you behind the scenes. I feel like that really made Chelsea Green look relatable and, and, like, normal. Right. That's where I became a fan. Yeah, because it was just somebody who worked hard, did everything they asked, never really got a look, kept getting injured. And kind of the fans were undeniable in their cheers for her, so they had to, like, elevate her. That would be my interpretation. What's yours? Yeah, she's also, like, very over the top. Makes her own gear. Oh, yeah. She's the one that made her own stuff, huh? Yeah. With her face on it. That was funny. She was like, I'm waiting for the perfect time in that series to wear this. And she had. Yeah, she plays a villain for the most part, but people like her so much. It's like back in the, like, the NWO days, like, they made it to be a bad group, but then they were just so cool that everybody liked them. Yeah. So Maury Povich first and then roll over to Chelsea Green. Thank you, guys, for listening. You can watch all these videos, too, up on the channel at Bobby Bones Channel. There'll be separate videos, but you can check those out. And here we go. Hey, Maury. Good to see you, Bobby.
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Maury Povich
Nice to be with you.
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Bobby Bones
Hey. I'm a massive fan for a long time, so this is really cool for me. So I just want to say that up front. Congratulations on the podcast. We were talking about you before you came on, and I, I, my assumption is everywhere you go, people yell at you, you are not the father. Or something like that. Everywhere you go.
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Maury Povich
Or they want me to give them an autograph to say they're not the father.
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Bobby Bones
Oh, you have to sign that.
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Maury Povich
Oh, of course. You know, hey, Jimmy, you are not the father or you are the father.
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Bobby Bones
That's funny. When you were doing those episodes specifically.
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Maury Povich
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
Could you tell culturally that was cutting through at the time.
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Maury Povich
You know, I, I never thought about it, but I, when I used to go to events, it's amazing. My wife, Connie Chung, you know, and so we go to these media parties and everybody would want to, you know, surround Connie and talk to Connie. And if I wanted to be noticed, I'd go to the kitchen.
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And then everybody in the kitchen knew who I was.
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Bobby Bones
That's funny.
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Maury Povich
And then I knew then I knew I was cutting through to the real people.
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Bobby Bones
Whenever I think about your history, you know, and I think something that a lot of people maybe don't appreciate now as much as they should is your history of covering like some, some major events before we knew you in daytime television. You know, I think about like Watergate and.
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Maury Povich
Sure.
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Bobby Bones
And not to jump off and something super serious now, but, you know, as Watergate was happening then. Do you, are there parallels to now, what's happening now with like Epstein, etc.
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Maury Povich
Absolutely. No question. What it's all about is, is the abuse back then. It was the abuse of Richard Nixon and all of the underlings under him, Robert Haldeman and John Ehrlichman, the chiefs of staff and the number one counselor. And all these people played a role in Watergate.
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And if you looked at those three people, Nixon, Ehrlichman and Haldeman, back then, they were all angry looking people. And my issue, one of my big issues is days so many people are angry. I mean, it doesn't matter where you are on the political spectrum. There's just a lot of anger around and a lot of cynicism and negativity and you know, it's just, it's just rough.
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Bobby Bones
Do you find that there are parallels between. And again, I wasn't there for like Watergate or for in the 70s, for the protests in Vietnam because to me this feels like the worst time ever. Now, as someone who covered it as closely as you did, you were in it. Are they similar? Is, is it worse? Is it more toxic now because of the ability to have social media and connect with people?
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Maury Povich
It's all about government abuse. All right? Now back then it was, you know, solely in the White House. That's, that's where the abuse came. Now you see it a lot of places. I mean a lot of agencies. I, I think when we all cut back on, on, on the, the budgets of all these agencies where, and people are hurting and, and the tariffs are hurting people, all kinds of, the, the, the deportation in a way is hating people. Hu.
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It's more widespread now. Before it Was kind of contained. I, I don't think it's contained these days.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, the political environment is something that I get exhausted just keeping up with.
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Maury Povich
It's just terrible. I mean.
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I mean, you feel that you're drained by noon.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah.
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Maury Povich
If you're, if you're looking on, you know, on not even social media, if you're, if you're reading newspapers online, if you're, if you're looking at CNN online, if you're looking at Fox online, it doesn't matter. You're right. You're exhausted by noon. And.
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I just. It's rough. I'll tell you one thing. With me and my wife, boy, we're not. We're glad we're not in that end of the business anymore. And that it's, it's, it's rough out there in media and, and it's rough not only trying to cover things, but, I mean, unfortunately, I think there, there's been a tilt in terms of opinion and news, and it's tough to separate what is actual news and what is opinion.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, I feel like there was a journalistic standard at some point that the word standard is that. That's not even in our vocabulary anymore. Now it's just, can we get clicks with sensational headlines, with opinions, or. I should say, it doesn't seem to me that there are standards of just presenting the news in an unbiased way.
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Maury Povich
It's very tough. Look, my father was the sports columnist of the Washington Post for 75 years. I mean, the Washington Post was like the bible to us. I read the Washington Post today, and I got to think, you know, that headline really wasn't, you know, objective, fair news. That story, that story should have been analysis. It should have been opinion. It shouldn't have been straight news, forward, straightforward news. So the New York Times, I question them as well. I question everybody these days. It's very tough. I'll tell you, Bobby, there's one area of news, and you'll understand this because you work in local stations around the country. Local journalism is treated by the community as a trustworthy enterprise.
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People trust local journalism. I don't care if it's on TV or in their local newspapers. People trust what is happening in local news as in terms of whether it was a fair coverage of a story.
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Bobby Bones
And I agree with that for the most part. Until you get to, like, when these local TV stations are all bought by the same company and then you see they're all being fed the same thing to say, that's true.
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Maury Povich
If the parent company has, has an axe to grind or the parent company has a, a particular formula that they want every station to enact. That's different. But I. Look, I worked at local stations all across the country in the 25 years before I ever did Current Affair in the talk show. And I've never ever had a news director tell me how to cover a story.
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Bobby Bones
I feel I shouldn't know who the FCC chairman is. And I feel like I shouldn't know that they're political.
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Maury Povich
Well, they are.
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Bobby Bones
I mean, it shouldn't be a thing that I should know about. It should be such an apolitical position.
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Maury Povich
Exactly. I mean, for the President of the United States to mention yesterday the fcc, the head of the fcc, when he was berating an ABC reporter for asking a question. I mean, really, I mean, the FCC, all my, I mean, in the 60 plus years I've been in this business, they never had any kind of presence the way they do now.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, I got fined a million bucks by the FCC once. And not only that, I, it wasn't political. I didn't even know who the chairman was. And you're right, whenever the FCC is like jumping in, in lockstep with any, with anyone, it just feels like it's systematically against someone at all times. And so it's a weird environment. And again, I just respect where you come from because with you, you know, Watergate, mlk, the assassination of mlk. How close were you to that?
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Maury Povich
Well, what I, what I was close to were the, the aftermath riots in Washington D.C. and the way I saw our town. I mean, look, I covered the anti Vietnam demonstrations in Washington and I've, I've covered a lot of demonstrations in Washington. Never saw riots, never saw whole blocks burned down. And that's what happened after the Martin Luther King assassination. And the interesting thing is.
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One of the first stories I ever did on radio when I was a radio reporter was his famous speech from the Lincoln Memorial. I was covering it for a local radio station and my job was to cover all the way down at the end of the Mall, as far away as you could. I had to cover the counter demonstration by George Lincoln Rockwell and his American Nazi Party, all of which there were 10 demonstrators and 50 cops. And I could just hear King's speech and the loudspeakers all the way down at the, at the Lincoln Memorial. But, but at the aftermath of his assassination. I mean, it, I mean, they came so, I mean, they came so quickly. I mean, King is assassinated in April, Bobby Kennedy is assassinated in June. I mean, you Know, that reminded me of Charlie Kirk. Same thing. I mean, it's. It's all of this political heat boiling over, and that's what happens.
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Bobby Bones
Do you feel like you've seen the cycle happen enough times? You can almost predict the cycle where it's a pendulum, and politically, somebody comes in, then the opposite, and then this happens. Because, again, I. I see similarities, but I don't. I wasn't there at any point to see any sort of cycle.
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Maury Povich
It's there that we're Talking about the 1960s and the 1970s, where there was a lot of upheaval, starting with the assassination of John Kennedy in 63, all the way through Watergate in 74. I mean, in Washington, you covered those events. I mean, that was a lifetime, a lot of coverage today. I mean, it's similar. You're right, Bobby. It's similar. There was an ebb and flow back then. In other words, there was this event, then it was over, then the riots were there, and that lasted for about a month, and then it was calm. And then some other event came. Today, it doesn't look like the meter ever goes down. Yeah, I mean, it's up all the time.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, it's always hot. You mentioned your dad earlier and 75 years, which means he was embedded into sports. Did you get to go to any iconic sporting events with your dad as a child?
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Maury Povich
Yeah, I mean, I. I kind of grew up at his knee. I was in every press box that he ever was in. I started as a sportscaster in 1962.
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On radio, and I. I couldn't get it. I wanted to write, but the Washington Post had a nepotism policy. You couldn't. If you were a member of the. If you're a member of the family, you couldn't get a job there. So I kind of gravitated early on, when I was 17, 18, into. Into radio and television, and then television. I. Yeah, we were at. We were at boxing. We were at Sugar Ray Leonard and Marvin Hagler fight, the championship fight in Vegas together. We were at the famous, maybe the greatest fight of all time. Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier in Madison Square Garden. And so there were several events we were at. What I did watch, I mean, he was really a great wordsmith. And his closest buddy in covering sports was Red Smith, the great columnist for the New York Times. And these two guys would be the last guys in the press box putting out their column for the next day. Every light was dark except the light in the press box. And they would. They would be there, and they're typing, you know, in their old typewriters. And, and it's, it's if they were bleeding, trying to get the right phraseology.
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Bobby Bones
Did your dad ever not want you to do what he did?
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Maury Povich
One time I did this show called A Current Affair. It was the first big tabloid journalism show. And Tom Shales was the media critic in the Washington Post and he was a Pulitzer prize winner. And so.
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He wrote a brutal review of me and my show. He used every s word in the world. Smarmy, sorted, snarky, you name it. So I called up my father and I said, you know, dad, don't show this to mom. You know, this is really brutal. He just really took, took me on. He said, oh, don't worry about son. Just go about your business. I said, well, you know. He says, well, you know, I, I helped to hire Tom Shales here at the Washington Post. I said, yeah, dad, but I'm your son. He says, yeah, son, but good writers are hard to find.
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That, I mean, that says it all about journalism and my father, that was the most important thing in his life. Let's take a quick pause for a.
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Bobby Bones
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Sophie Cunningham
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May 24, 1990. A pipe bomb explodes in the front seat of environmental activist Judy Berry's car.
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Podcast Narrator / Promo Voice
In season two of Rip Current, we ask who tried to kill Judy Berry and why? She received death threats before the bombing.
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Bobby Bones
She received more threats after the bombing.
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Maury Povich
The men and women who were heard had planned to lead a summer of militant protest against logging practices in Northern California. They were climbing trees and they were sabotaging logging equipment in the woods.
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Bobby Bones
The timber industry, I mean, it was the number one industry in the area. But more than it was the culture, it was the way of life.
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iHeart Podcast Announcer
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Podcast Narrator / Promo Voice
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Bobby Bones
Back on the Bobby cast But with your podcast, obviously you're talking to folks and getting their stories. If you were to look back at your career, who are some of those folks that you talk to that you, you would get super excited to talk to? Because it was, it was rare air to be with that person.
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Maury Povich
You know, Bobby, it's, it's very interesting. I always fashioned myself as a storyteller. It didn't matter at what role I was having in my life, whether I was a straight news reporter, news anchor, everything. I always felt myself as a storyteller and I learned that from my father. And as I moved through my career, I felt that every single story on my show was unique. Even though I did thousands of DNA tests and thousands of lie detector tests, I found that each story was unique. And so I treated it that way. And I feel that that was the connection that I was able to make. Look, I know when I started to do my talk show, until I ended these talk shows, that's 31 years later, there were 75 talk shows in the cemetery that didn't work. And I knew a talk show worked when a host or hostess, whatever, could make a connection with that audience. It was like, it was like an election. It was a campaign. You had to knock on a door, they had to open it, they had to invite you in, they, you had to become a member of their family. Only the successful talk show hosts were able to do that.
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Bobby Bones
To jump in front of the camera full time. Was it someone that gave you that push or was that just the next step?
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Maury Povich
Radio is a big part of your life. I will tell you that. In 1962, when I got out of college and I wanted to get into the business full time, I had been an assistant producer for the radio broadcast television broadcasters for the Washington Senators baseball team. I wanted to get into the business.
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You can't get a job in the business unless you have experience.
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And if you don't have experience, how do you get into the business? So I got into the business as an assistant publicity writer at a 5000 watt radio station. And I hung around the newsroom to the fact that the news director thought I was a pest and made me a reporter. And to get into television back then, there was no one in television back then who had not been in radio first think about that. I mean everyone, I don't care whether you're in the news business or you were in the. Everybody had to be in radio first in order to graduate to television. So for me, being in radio, the only first job I ever got in television was the sport doing the, being a sportscaster on the 10 o' clock news at the now Fox station in Washington D.C. and that's how it all started. And then within three months they wanted to do this big three hour a day talk show way before CNN, way before cable news. It was kind of the news of the day, three for three hours a day. And they, it was a three person anchor desk and I was the owner and they looked around and the only person who grew up in Washington was, was me. So I was hired for that. So I was a sportscaster and a talk show host within three months of 1966.
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Bobby Bones
Did it ever with your syndication and like your national reach, were there moments where like you thought it was over but miraculously something happened or was it just steady growth the whole time?
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Maury Povich
No, it was, it was serendipity. I'm, I'm look, I'm anchoring the local newscast in Washington D.C. for the now Fox station, the 10 o' clock news. All of a sudden this crazy Australian named Rupert Murdoch buys my station and the other Metromedia station and those become what are the Fox O and O's. This is before the Fox network, way before the Fox News channel. This is what he had. I get a call three a year later that he bought it. In 1986, I'm supposed to come to New York, see Mr. Murdoch and he wants to talk to me. I had never met the man. I go to New York, he looks at me and he says, I have this idea for a show. I said, yeah. He says, it's called A Current Affair. It's going to be all the stories that those, that the regular network news departments won't air. Those are the stories we're going to air. Rupert Murdoch had this great ability to see an undeserved public, a public that was underserved. And so he tapped into that and this tabloid news show became the biggest hit in prime time access between 7 o' clock and 8 o' clock in the country. And Murdoch and that, I mean, he told me, he says, well, if this show doesn't work out, you'll go back to Washington. And meanwhile, you just got married, you live in Washington, your wife lives in New York, maybe you'll find out if you can live together.
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Bobby Bones
It seems, though, that is a bit what he did again with this version of Fox News.
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Maury Povich
No question, Fox News. I mean, it was all Murdoch. He saw an undeserved huge amount of the public that, that he felt weren't getting what they wanted, and he gave it to them, and he's still giving it to them. And that's, you know, 25 years later.
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Bobby Bones
How do you still have an interest in people? I mean, I feel like you've talked with everybody about everything, and yet here you are, still doing it.
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Maury Povich
Well, I tell you, it's, it's very interesting. I, I, I. Everybody says, you know, you're well in your 80s. And I said, look, I'm still curious. I'm still curious. I have a curiosity. I want to know things. I want to find out things about people. I mean, we're starting this second season on this podcast. I had so much fun, Bobby. This is the stretch of the people I had. Elise Myers, this, this unbelievable content creator. Never heard of her in my life. Fascinating person who has all of these followers? I did. Leanne Morgan. Okay. You know Leanne Morgan?
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Bobby Bones
I do, yeah.
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Maury Povich
She's one of the biggest comedians going. She's 60 years old from this little town in Tennessee. You ever watch the show Billions?
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Bobby Bones
I know it well.
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Maury Povich
Wags of all the characters in Billions, Wags. This guy who's been playing these character actors in Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, David Constable. And so William H. Macy. Okay, anybody seen Fargo? Anybody seen Shameless? William H. Macy is a great story. I love this stuff. I love it.
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Bobby Bones
What do you find? The through line is of very successful.
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Maury Povich
People, I think more than anything else, when they lose, they bounce back. The greatest fear anybody in my business would ever have is being fired. I go to Los Angeles. I'm the second banana to my wife, who's the big star out in Los Angeles. At the CBS station, I'm hired by a guy. Six months later, he's gone. The new general manager fires me. Eight months into my job, I thought I was, I thought I would die. I mean, and then guess what? I still have, I still have all of my, my digits. I have my legs. I have my arms. I got my hands. You know, I lie down on the couch. I'm walking, watching newscasts, and I'm saying, you know, I think I'm just as, as good as these guys. I mean, I think so. And so I end up three months later getting a job in San Francisco at the ABC station. And so I think.
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With Actors. How about all the additions they lose? How about all the auditions that they go to and they don't get it, you know, and they keep going. They keep going. How about Al Pacino in the Godfather when the guy didn't even want him there or wanted to throw him out? Robert Evans, the head of Paramount, wanted to throw him out, didn't want Coppola to get him, and Coppola insisted.
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I just think.
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Even, even when others kind of bitch and moan about you and criticize you, I've always, for some reason, it's always kind of washed off my back.
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Bobby Bones
In season one, you did Pablo Torre, who I'm a big fan of, because he is. Yeah. And I thought the episode was great. And he is an investigative journalist. Like, he's old school, but young and new school. What did you like about him?
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Maury Povich
First of all, he's so smart. And I also feel honored because he said to me, he says, you've been in this business. What, what is going to happen? Because I'm getting a lot of blowback. And I said, well, here's what's going to happen, Pablo.
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The NFL is going to get on you.
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And the problem is that.
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The NBA is going to get on you. The NBA is going to get on you. And the problem is, are you going to lose your sources? And the key is, obviously you had sources who were executives, if not owners of NBA teams. You can't allow those sources to dry up just because you're being called out by a lot of people. And secondly, I know if the NBA is going to have an investigation, that law firm is going to be calling you and they're going to be asking you, you know what, as a journalist, they're going to want to know who your sources are. And you always have to protect your sources. So we've had a back and forth for many months now. I, I just, I have so much fun with him. Do you know what he and I did that you might not know about? You know who Nick Cannon is?
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Bobby Bones
I do know Nick Cannon, but I don't know what you're talking about.
- [35:04]
Maury Povich
Nick Cannon has a podcast. It's called We Play in Spades and we played Spades. Pablo Torre and I played spades against Nick Cannon and his co host and we beat the hell out of him.
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Bobby Bones
That's funny. You go to his house and take his. Yeah, that's good.
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Maury Povich
Yeah, it was great. And Pablo was great. Connie and I just did a, just did another episode of Pablo. I mean, I've, I've been on Pablo's podcast maybe two or three times now. And Connie loves him. Connie loves him because he's smart and he went to Harvard.
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Bobby Bones
I know a golfer when I see one. Mostly. I saw your foot joy. I see. I saw your fj. Yeah, yeah. As a golfer myself, I spit spotted a mile away.
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Maury Povich
Oh, really?
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Bobby Bones
Yeah.
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Chelsea Green
Yeah.
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Maury Povich
Oh, you're a big golfer.
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Bobby Bones
I am. Or did you play today?
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Maury Povich
How'd you know? You saw the sleep.
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Bobby Bones
I did. I saw the foot joy.
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Maury Povich
I walked in. I walked in to be with you on a half hour before. I just finished up.
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Bobby Bones
So what do you play? Do you play 9, 18 a day? Do you live on a course?
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Maury Povich
No, I don't live on a course, but I live like 20. I'm in Florida these days. I live 20 minutes away. My wife always says to me, I don't understand it, Maury, you go find a golf club and then we have to find a house. I mean, why is it that way? I mean, so we, we spend some of the winter in Florida, and I belong to a course here. We've been living in Montana for the last 26 years, 28 years, actually. I have two little courses there. I play. I have a course in New York because we still have a place in New York. So, I mean, I. I never played golf till I was 30. I never had a lesson till I was 50. My. My wife researched it at 50. As a birthday present, she gave me this coach teacher. His name is Peter Costas. He used to be on the CBS golf broadcast for 30 years. He's a great teacher. And my wife says, well, this guy is like the golf God. And so now for the last 36 years, I've been following Peter all around the country, and she calls him the golf devil.
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Bobby Bones
How many hole in ones?
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Maury Povich
I've had two.
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Bobby Bones
Oh, man.
- [37:27]
Maury Povich
And I never had one until I was maybe, oh, maybe 55 or 60.
- [37:33]
Bobby Bones
Tell me about the first one.
- [37:34]
Maury Povich
It was at Hollywood Golf Club in Deal, New Jersey, a great old course, the Walter Travis course. The signature hole is this short par three uphill, all surrounded by bunkers, and it's just 150 yards. And I was a member there for 25 years, and I just hit this shot. And the good news was we had a foursome. A foursome up on the green was letting us play through. So there were like eight or nine guys.
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Ye. And so I never saw the ball going the hole. And. And before that, I always said Ben Hogan never had a hole in one competitively. And his excuse was that he said he never aimed at the pin. And so I was using that excuse until, of course, I made a hole in one.
- [38:27]
Bobby Bones
What's your handicap?
- [38:30]
Maury Povich
Well, I'm very upset. My handicap now is 5.5. It was six months ago. It was 3.5. So now you see how upset I am about life. I mean, I've been. I've been scratched once in my life. I played. Costas got me so good that I played. I qualified for the United States Senior Amateur. I made match play in the United States Senior Amateur. I played in three British senior Amateurs. I was really good when I was about 55 to 60. Ever since then, it's just moving up a T. If you're.
- [39:12]
Bobby Bones
Keep moving five handicap more. That's pretty freaking good. That. That's. That's really awesome. Why? I don't want to keep you any longer, but I am a massive fan of, like.
- [39:23]
Maury Povich
Oh, I'm too nice.
- [39:24]
Bobby Bones
The different version, like, the different. I. I feel like you had different sections of your life that all were very instrumental in different ways, and I think that that's what I'm a fan of, of the different ways that you were able to a. Make a difference or be cut through and sometimes at the same time. But even like you're talking about. Even with, like, your. Your talk show, like, you were cutting through and you were doing. In my opinion, with that show, what you talked about was happening with the idea of A Current Affair or Fox News, like you were doing that. You were finding the underserved and actually giving them something they could relate to. Do you think that's. That's correct.
- [39:59]
Maury Povich
You know, I never thought of it that way, but you're right. I mean, and I. You know, I'm kind of proud of that. I mean, I. I mean, even today, it doesn't matter. I mean, I see a caddy. Oh, I grew up watching you. I mean, in fact, I have a great caddy story in terms of the show. So a friend of mine said that he was. He always hung out in the caddyshack with the caddies at the golf course, and there was always a TV on, and he's just listening, and one caddy saying to the other.
- [40:29]
You ever. You ever had that situation where somebody accused you of being the daddy of their kid? And the guy says, oh, yeah, yeah, all the time. He says, well, what do you say? He says, I tell them all the same thing. I ain't the daddy. Tomorrow. He tells me, I'm the dad.
- [40:44]
Okay, I'm gonna let you go, but.
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Bobby Bones
Oh, so I'm about to have my. My first child. My wife is pregnant.
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Maury Povich
Oh, wow. Oh, boy. Here we go.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I have to. I wasn't gonna do it, but I have to do it. So I am the father. So do you mind, Maureen?
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Maury Povich
Yeah, yeah, but. But do we have a name?
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Bobby Bones
We don't have a name or a gender yet.
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Maury Povich
Okay.
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Bobby, in the case of your little baby, you are the father. Yes. Yes, it's me.
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Bobby Bones
All right, every. Maury, I love your podcast again. I love the history of Maury, and I hope everybody checks out on par with Maury Povich. Season two's coming out, but go look. Go, go listen to season one. I know season two is coming out, but I want to encourage everybody. You had some really great guests in season one. I was especially Lewis Black and Pablo Tori were two that I really loved. And so thank you for your time and I hope.
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Maury Povich
Right.
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Bobby Bones
I hope you have a great rest.
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Maury Povich
By the way, Lewis. Lewis Black, addicted golfer.
- [41:40]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, addicted. You can always. You can tell. It's. It's a look we have, Maury. It's a look we have. Have a great rest of the day and hopefully we'll cross paths at some time. Bye, Maury.
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Maury Povich
Appreciate it. Bye. Bye.
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Bobby Bones
The Bobbycast. We'll be right back.
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Maury Povich
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Bobby Bones
Love within each other.
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Maury Povich
Thanksgiving isn't just about food. It's a day for us to show up for one another. I'm Eliot Khani, host of the podcast Family Therapy, a series where real families come together to heal and find hope. What would be a clue that would be like? I've gotten lots of text messages from him. This one's from a little bit better.
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Maury Povich
It's always a concern, like, are you eating well?
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iHeart Podcast Announcer
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Bobby Bones
There was this one time where we had neighbors and I saved their dog.
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Maury Povich
And I ended up inviting them over for food.
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Bobby Bones
And that was like one of my proudest moments.
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Maury Povich
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Podcast Narrator / Promo Voice
In season two of Rip Current, we ask who tried to kill Judy Berry and why she received death threats before the bombing.
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Bobby Bones
She received more threats after the bombing.
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Maury Povich
The men and women who were hurt had planned to lead a summer of militant protest against logging practices in Northern California. They were climbing trees and they were sabotaging logging equipment in the woods.
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Bobby Bones
The timber industry, I mean, it was the number one industry in the area. But more than it was the culture, it was the way of life.
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iHeart Podcast Announcer
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Maury Povich
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Bobby Bones
This is the Bobby cast. All right, we're gonna go now to WWE superstar Chelsea Green, which, if you watch the Netflix series on the wwe, which was kind of that docu series, that's where I really became a fan of her. I already knew her from wrestling, but I just knew her as somebody who had a big personality and was kind of the villain and was somebody who lost all the time. They kind of just set her up to be big and then to get beat up. And now not so much, because while we're talking to her, she's holding two massive championship belts. And I felt like they were a bit heavy. Yeah, I felt like she wanted to put them down, but she was like, I'm not putting these championship belts down. WrestleMania 42 tickets are up now. WrestleMania, Saturday, April 18th and 19th in Las Vegas and go over and get the tickets. They went on sale a few days ago, but you can get your tickets now. But here she is. Follow her. If you want to see what she looks like, just go to Instagram. Chelsea Green, but a big fan. Here she is. Chelsea Green. What belts are those? One of those. A tag team. Which one is that?
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Chelsea Green
Yep, this is. Oh, wait, no, this is a tag team. And this is the United States Women's Championship belt.
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Bobby Bones
Do you carry those with you everywhere you go?
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Chelsea Green
Of course.
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Bobby Bones
How do you get them through the air? I'd be afraid that, like, one of the screeners at the airport would be, like, wanting to wear it and take a picture with it or something.
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Chelsea Green
Yeah, they do. I love it.
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Bobby Bones
Like, do you. You don't check it, though, right? You take it. You carry it on.
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Chelsea Green
I carry it on because God forbid. Yeah, God forbid it goes missing.
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Bobby Bones
Can you imagine what's the rule on if you are the champion? And I've seen how they remove the names on the sides of the belts. Right. Like, it's like a ceremony.
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Chelsea Green
Yep. The name plates right here.
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Bobby Bones
So you don't get to ever keep the belt. Can you ask for a replica belt if you've been the champion and then it's gone?
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Chelsea Green
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. We've got all of our replica belts. Some of the replica belts will actually come from the WWE shop and are. They're sold and they are amazing. And then others, we actually get made from the belt maker, the original belt maker.
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Bobby Bones
I think that would be cool to have those. I have a belt. It's obviously. I didn't wrestle. I did the Major League Baseball Celebrity softball game, and I was mvp, and they gave me a WWE belt. And on the sides, it has the specific event, and so I have that up. I think that would be so cool to have, like, all the belts from all the championships that you've won.
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Chelsea Green
No, it's so cool. And I actually. So I just won this. Wait, this. Man, this is really screwing me up here, having two belts. I just won this one for the second time. And I texted my husband. I'm like, like, what's the rule here? Do I have to buy another bell? Or, like, how does this work?
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Bobby Bones
I don't know.
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Chelsea Green
I never expected this.
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Bobby Bones
Yes, I think you need a second one. So I'm a big fan for a lot of reasons. And I think, to me, what I thought was really cool about you was how much Netflix showed your work ethic whenever they did the series. Aside from your athleticism and your background or how great of a wrestler you are, I think it showed why people root for you. How did you feel about once you saw what they edited and how did you feel about what was aired?
- [49:18]
Chelsea Green
So when they called me, I'll never forget, I was in the Salt Lake City airport. They called me and asked me if I wanted to do it. And I was like, look, I will absolutely do it, but I'm not gonna edit myself. Like, you guys need to edit me. Because if you want me for the reasons I think you want me, which is my openness, my candidness, my willing to just, you know, talk about, like, whatever. I'm not afraid, as my fans know, like, I'm not afraid to say how I feel. I was like, you guys are going to have to edit me. They said, no problem. We're not going to hold anything against you. Whatever I film for months on end, and then I forget about it, and then it airs. And I was sitting on a plane next to Bron Breakker, and I saw him watching it, and I was like, oh, I just can't do it. Like, it's so cringy to watch myself. And I don't ever want to change who I am because I've seen myself. And I gave myself the ick because I've done that before. And it's the same reason why I don't watch myself wrestle. I don't watch myself do promos. Like, I just. I like how I am on camera and how people perceive me. I don't want to change myself because I'm judging myself.
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Maury Povich
And.
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Chelsea Green
And then I started doing media, and I realized really quick, if I don't watch this episode of myself, I'm not gonna know what I'm talking about. And so I watched it, and I was so pleasantly surprised. I felt like, besides the fact that it could have been so much longer, that, you know, we had months of footage and months of just, like, other stories that we could have put in that episode, I. I thought it was totally me. It was the relationships I have with everyone. It's everyone, you know, talking shit to each other and, like, nobody has to be serious around me. Everyone can say what they want. And my family was there and, you know, showing kind of the. I mean, a little bit of the trials and tribulations we go through as wrestlers. And my story, it was just. Yeah, it was really cool. They did a great job. It's like they know what they're doing.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, I know. I think the thing that made me like it for you the most was it made you likable because of the hard work that obviously you've put in, all the injuries, setbacks, and not only that, that, like, how your performance and the crowd reacting to it is really what put you over more so than it seemed like just a person going, I now deem you to be the one. It was like the people were able to do that for you.
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Chelsea Green
It's funny because.
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I. I worked so hard for the past almost 12 years to get to WWE. Now that I'm here, I realize, thank God I didn't get here in 2014. Thank God it took me this long, because that is why the fans are behind me. They know my story. They followed me. Getting fired multiple times. They followed me, you know, not winning tough enough. They followed me when I was on the independent scene and struggling and trying to come up with these characters or at TNA is the hot mess. And that is why they want so badly to see me climb this ladder. Because I'm not the chosen one, and it's very obvious I'm not the chosen one. And I like that for me. But for years, I wanted so badly for that to be me.
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Bobby Bones
I have friends that are massive country stars now, and they will talk about specifically shows where they played for six people. And it's crazy to even watch the videos because now they play to arenas or stadiums. When you were wrestling independent, are there any shows you can think of where there were, you know, seven, 10, 20 people in the crowd?
- [52:51]
Chelsea Green
Okay, there's a. There's a show in Calgary, Alberta, kind of in a rough part of town in Calgary. And my Calgarians will know it's in the Northeast, they know.
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And a guy, an old, old man was wrestling before me, and I was watching, and I saw his old wrinkly balls come out of his trunks. And that was a moment that I thought, what in the hell am I doing here? I don't belong here. I'm too good for this. Get me out of here. And that's something that I will, you know, take with me forever. When I go out there on, you know, on a WrestleMania stage or I fall off that ladder of money at the bank, I think about that man's. That man's old wrinkly balls.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, wrinkly scrotum will do it. It'll really change your perspective on where you are in life. So athletically, there are stories of, like, LeBron or even some guys that I work with that are athletes that invest a lot of money into their body because that's their tool. Like, so what are you doing, like, physically to make sure you stay healthy?
- [54:04]
Chelsea Green
So I've been really. I've been obsessed with personal training, diet, exercise, all that stuff since I was probably 14. And then I went to school at University of Calgary for kinesiology. So that's kind of ingrained in me. No matter what, I'm always going to be a somewhat healthy eater. I'm always going to work out for my mental health. It's second nature to me. But I think what I've learned, being on the road so much in the past three years, you know, I have not been home this month. I've been on the road, and as any WWE fan knows, we don't have an off season the way that the NFL, the mlb, you know, the NHL, whatever, have we don't have. That routine is really important, and I've learned to find that in traveling. I've learned to find, you know, a routine when I get to my hotel room, a good sleep pattern, if I can find one. And just those things, the comforts of home while I'm on the road, that make me feel grounded, well rested, and just keep me sane. Because it's tough, you know, being away from your own shower and your own bed and your family and your friends and still looking the way that people expect you to look. Performing at a very, very high level. It's hard. It is very hard.
- [55:36]
Bobby Bones
I'm in a walking boot now, and I've been on a scooter the last couple of weeks because I had ankle surgery. And a little bit of it's messed with my mind because I am a pretty active person. Like. Like, mentally, it starts to, like, affect me to the point where it's like, man, am I starting to get depressed because I can't do anything except lay in the bed. But you've been through so many injuries, and when that is your job, like, was it your mental health? Did you have to really, was that a struggle for you?
- [55:58]
Chelsea Green
I mean, yeah, of course, especially, especially when it comes to injuries. I mean, look, mental health is going to be a struggle no matter what, and then it's going to be a struggle when you're sleep deprived or when you haven't eaten enough or when the pressures of show business are put on you. But it's really tough as an athlete when the thing that you love the most is kind of ripped out from underneath you. And usually as a wrestler, it's not in this, in this amazing fashion. It's something really crazy like tripping and falling or like, you know, we fall on our butt and we break our wrist, which I've done three times. It's not in this glorious fashion of, you know, I fell off a 20 foot ladder through a flaming table and everyone was cheering and I broke something. That's not how it happens. It's always the simplest of things. When I had my first injury, it was in India and I broke my collarbone mid match and I actually had to get airlifted to a hospital in India and receive treatment there. I went through surgery in India. That was crazy, you know, but again, I was on the Indies. I was able to go home. It wasn't, it wasn't that tough on my mental health. It was tough when I had my first injury in WWE because it was on live tv. It happened. And then I was off live TV and my dream was kind of ripped away from me. And that happened again when I had my smackdown debut. I broke my wrist on live television just before I was about to qualify for Survivor Series. And, you know, seeing this amazing road in front of you, you know, I'm gonna do all these things. I'm debuting, I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna get a raise, I'm gonna be on WrestleMania, I'm gonna be the next one. John Cena. And then all of a sudden, you're stuck at home for six to 12 weeks and you're not doing anything. You're not going to work, you're not filling your cup with, you know, doing, doing media or getting hair and makeup done or doing any of those things that you have been doing every single day for weeks on end. It's really, really tough. But I learned with my last broken arm, that if you don't have hobbies and things outside of this that you love, whether you're injured or not, you're going to go insane. Because this doesn't last forever. This is show business. And show business is so cutthroat. You need to have other things that fill your cup and that make you whole and that keep you happy.
- [58:36]
Bobby Bones
You know, growing up and you're doing theater and you have training in dance and anything creative or anything athletic, like, not a lot of stability there. Even speaking for myself doing stand up or doing or whatever it is, there's just not stability. So what is like your family, your parents, what do they think when you say, hey, I want to pursue this career with no stability whatsoever?
- [59:01]
Chelsea Green
Well, first of all, my parents, my whole family is very, they're like very put together. Like, for lack of better words, posh. Like, you know, my, my dad is an investment advisor in Canada. My mom works at, or worked. She just retired at a very beautiful boarding school. My grandma is a posh British woman. They thought I was insane. They thought it was absolutely crazy. It was low brow, it was not what they ever expected me to do.
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But I think now they realize this is exactly what I was born to do. And you know, it was rough when I was on the independent scene wrestling for 10 people and not making money and struggling and all that. When I really did have all the options in the world and I was able to go to school and things like that. Now, of course, I'm 12 years into wrestling and, you know, I'm. I'm building my dream home and I'm married and I have all these dogs and cats and I'm able to, I'm able to treat them to things that they never expected I'd be able to treat them to. Like those are the moments where it's all worth it. But it took a while. It took a while. And my grandma admits all the time that she was so embarrassed to tell her friends at morning coffee that her granddaughter was a professional wrestler.
- [60:29]
Bobby Bones
That's funny.
- [60:31]
Maury Povich
Let's take a quick pause for a.
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Bobby Bones
Message from our sponsor.
- [60:42]
And we're back on the Bobby cast. Dancing with the Stars has crushed in ratings in the past. Like unprecedented. And you have a dance background. Would you ever do a show like that?
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Chelsea Green
I am so glad that you just asked me that. I am. I feel like maybe we're on the same wavelength today. And that's crazy because I have been for the past six months pestering the hell out of dancing with The Stars. And out of our talent relations team, they hear from me every single Friday, whether it's in person or by text. Did Dancing with the Stars call yet? Have you asked Dancing with the Stars?
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Sophie Cunningham
Have you?
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Chelsea Green
Oh, yeah. I know the producers of Dancing with the Stars. I've spoken to Nikki Bella. I've spoken to the Miz. I am planting those seeds. I am watering those seeds. I am fertilizing those seeds. I will be on Dancing with the Stars. It's just a matter of time.
- [61:34]
Bobby Bones
Okay, so if you really. So I won the show a few years ago. Like, I won the Mirror Ball. And I know Pete, if you want, I know the head of casting. I can literally. Dina. I can just text her. Yeah, I didn't.
- [61:45]
Chelsea Green
I didn't want to say her name, but. Oh, I know Dina.
- [61:48]
Bobby Bones
I will text her and just put in a good word and be like, hey, I was talking to Chelsea Green. Like, I think she would be awesome for the show. If you. If that's not, like, overstepping, would you mind if I did that?
- [61:57]
Chelsea Green
Would I mind? I would pay you. Let me. Give me your Zell. I'll Zell you money to do it.
- [62:02]
Bobby Bones
No, I'll. Seriously, I think you'd be so great on it, and there hasn't been a professional wrestler on it, and I think it would be the first. I think. I think it'd be fantastic because, again, you're so performative in your wrestling, and obviously you have a background. I think you would be so good on that show and before you came on, because that show is ending, and I've. It's been a little controversial for me this year, but I wanted a few years back, and I was like, I think she'd be great. So I will text her and just. Just put you from. From another side. I will say, I think Chelsea Green would be awesome.
- [62:32]
Chelsea Green
This is. I knew there was a reason I woke up early today. This was it.
- [62:37]
Bobby Bones
How. How physically. How are you feeling right now?
- [62:40]
Chelsea Green
Oh, exhausted. Absolutely exhausted. But, I mean, I dreamt of the day I was gonna be absolutely exhausted from wrestling. And so it's. It's a really good feeling to wake up being exhausted because I'm doing every single thing I ever dreamt of.
- [62:56]
Bobby Bones
When you talk about WrestleMania and we're talking about WrestleMania, before you came on, we were talking about tickets going on sale, and even behind you, it says WrestleMania Vegas. I mean, that's. That's super bowl type stuff, like, leading up to it, like, being there. Like, what. What's the vibe like at WrestleMania.
- [63:13]
Chelsea Green
I mean, I don't think there's anything like it. We always compare it to the super bowl and, you know, like the pinnacle of every other sports thing. But I don't think there's anything like WrestleMania because we've now, not only is it, you know, two days, obviously this year it's going to be April 18th and 19th, but it's a whole week of just everyone being engulfed in all things professional wrestling. And what I love about WrestleMania week is it's now transcended just WWE. The entire wrestling community bases their year around this week. And so I personally get to see all my friends from other companies and everyone. I mean, I don't get to see raw talent. I don't get to see Maxine Dupree all the time. So of course we get to spend the whole week together and we get to go to the Superstore. And now my hat is gonna be in the Superstore this year. And I get to meet all the fans that I've been kind of connecting with online through Twitter and, and through Instagram all year. And we get to, you know, just like have those one on one moments that I personally think make or break a fan's relationship with the sport of professional wrestling. Because they all just want. They just want to tell you how much they love this. And so to be able to stand in a meet and greet line or a photo op line and have them tell me that, it's just like the coolest thing ever. It really is. It's my favorite week of the year besides Christmas.
- [64:50]
Bobby Bones
I have three very quick, super cliche wrestling questions to ask because I'd be remiss if I didn't just ask these questions. Who's your favorite wrestler of all time?
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Chelsea Green
Kelly. Kelly.
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Maury Povich
Okay.
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Bobby Bones
Secondly, what's your favorite match that you lost?
- [65:06]
Chelsea Green
First of all, I don't know if you know me, but I've lost every match ever. I'm on basically a losing streak. I don't know how I hold these championships, but it's. Something has gone seriously wrong in the back for me to even have these titles.
- [65:19]
Bobby Bones
But.
- [65:19]
Chelsea Green
But I digress. I would say at the Money in the bank match where I knew Tiffy was winning, I knew how big that was gonna be for her. I love her. And I knew that besides her winning, me being pushed off that ladder was going to be the most viral thing on that show.
- [65:37]
Bobby Bones
So that was exciting to you because you knew even though you were losing, you coming off the ladder was gonna.
- [65:41]
Chelsea Green
Be what popped and it was gonna be in the most glorious fashion that Tiffy was gonna be able to grab that briefcase. After pushing me off the ladder, I knew that the crowd was going to be split between Tiffany and myself, and I had already decided I was going to do that stunt. I was dying on that hill. They tried to say, I don't think you should do it. It's unsafe. I said, I'm doing it. The producers were incredible about pushing and saying, like, she's going to do it. Whether you want her to or not, she's going to do it. And I made sure that that was the last thing that those fans saw before she got the briefcase, because, you know, when you're building a match, it has to go like.
- [66:24]
Like that, and if you don't have that, you've done something wrong. And so I knew that that was the best thing for right before the biggest pop of the night, which was Tiffany winning the briefcase.
- [66:37]
Bobby Bones
Final question, super cliche question. What do you think gen pop doesn't know about what you do?
- [66:45]
Chelsea Green
I just think that they don't understand. I think this whole F word, the word fake, has been thrown around since the early 2000s that they don't understand how real it is.
- [67:00]
I did stunts for movies. This is. I don't have padding. I'm not rigged up. I am doing these stunts on my own. I am landing on my spine, on my back, on my tailbone, on. You know, I'm. I'm doing. These are all real, real live stunts in front of 20,000 people every week, multiple times a week. And I wish that instead of saying, is it fake? They would ask me how bad it hurts.
- [67:31]
Bobby Bones
Well, big fan. Thank you for the time. And I will text Dena as soon as we're done, and that would be super cool. I would love to see you on the show because it's so much fun. And I had no.
- [67:41]
Chelsea Green
And then. Will you come and dance with me on the dance that you have? Oh, you don't want someone come back.
- [67:46]
Bobby Bones
You don't want that? I like. I want. I literally was, like, everybody's favorite, but I had no dance experience, so I love that if there's a time, if you're on and it's, hey, bring someone on, but if I don't make or break your dance, if I'm just, like, a part of it, I will do it. But I would not trust you in my hands because you'll hurt something again, and I would feel terrible for that reason. But I'll text you.
- [68:08]
Chelsea Green
Just know that my arm is now metal.
- [68:10]
Bobby Bones
Okay, Chelsea, thank you for the time. Have a great rest of the day and hopefully I'll see you soon.
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Bobby Bones
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