FEELING THINGS: Kat’s Creating Joy & Amy’s Revisiting Old Wounds

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Bobby Bones Show — “FEELING THINGS: Kat’s Creating Joy & Amy’s Revisiting Old Wounds”

Date: November 16, 2025
Hosts: Amy & Kat
Theme: Exploring everyday joy, holiday cheer, emotional recovery, and the reality that personal progress isn’t always linear.

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Episode Overview

This episode of the “Feeling Things” segment with Amy and Kat focuses on embracing merriness and joy during the holiday season, creative ways to infuse excitement into everyday life, and candid conversations about returning emotional struggles. The hosts also swap stories about funny life moments, recovery, grief, and even surviving household emergencies—in their signature honest (and often hilarious) style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. “Feeling Merry and Joyful”—Ushering in Holiday Spirit

[03:13–05:10]

• Both hosts share that they’re feeling particularly festive—Amy at an “8 out of 10,” Kat at a “9.”
• Discussion kicks off with Christmas movies and traditions:
  • Kat watched "The Christmas Contract" with her boyfriend and his family, a heartwarming seasonal ritual.
  • Debates whether to show her boyfriend the Christmas movie where she had a cameo (“Holiday Harmony”).
  • Amy and Kat banter about how to introduce the subject to his family.

"So now that we're, like, all a lot closer, what do I say? If we're all gathered around the TV and they're like, what are we gonna watch tonight? And I'm like, how about the movie I'm in?"
— Kat ([05:28])

2. Creating Cozy Vibes at Home

[06:41–08:18]

• Kat and Amy rave about “Stovetop Smelly Christmas Stuff” (homemade potpourri) as a festive home hack.
• They read out the recipe (cranberries, cinnamon sticks, cloves, orange, rosemary) and joke about the best terminology for it.
• The importance of little rituals—like stovetop simmering or holiday newsletters—to generate joy.

"You're creating a vibe...It's Christmas in a pot."
— Amy and Kat ([07:08–07:22])

3. Newsletter Gems and Merch Launch

[08:47–09:06]

• Kat mentions their newsletter, which includes recipes, life hacks, reading recommendations, and news (like their new podcast merch and the stovetop scent recipe).
• Plug for listeners to sign up for their newsletter and check out new merch: sweatsuits (“sweatsets”), hats, and T-shirts.

4. The Recurring Nature of Emotional Challenges

[11:52–20:30]

• Kat gets candid about old financial anxieties cropping up as she manages paperwork. Despite working on her money mindset for years, the old gut feelings resurface.
• The hosts discuss how progress with emotional wounds is rarely linear—feelings and anxieties can reappear even after significant healing.
• Recovery is framed as ongoing, not finished—a theme applicable to both mental health (like eating disorders, addiction) and grief.

"That's why they call it recovery instead of 'I'm recovered.' You're never recovered—it's always there."
— Amy ([25:09])

5. Pro-Tips for Creating Joy in Uncertain Times

[13:08–14:49]

• Amy shares details of her intentional staycation: exploring local spots, going to a nearby vineyard, and treating “normal” activities with fresh eyes.
• Advice: Take time off (if possible), even for a weekend; be intentionally unplugged and create shared experiences.
• They recount the story of Amy’s mom being the MVP “Uber” driver for their trip, complete with snacks.

"I highly recommend doing that, especially if you have lived somewhere for a while and there are so many things that feel normal because you live there, but you've just never done them because you live there."
— Amy ([13:07])

6. Funny Life Moments: Accidental Accents & Classic Movies

[09:16–11:38]

• Kat recounts unconsciously mimicking a stranger’s accent on the phone, prompting an inside joke about how we adapt in awkward moments.
• They laugh about classic Christmas movies Amy hasn’t seen, discovering personal preferences and quirks.

7. The Non-Linear Growth of Grief

[28:44–34:46]

• Kat discusses the anniversary of her mother’s death—how some years it’s overwhelming, and other years it’s not.
• The hosts introduce alternative terms (Remembrance Day, Commemoration, Angelversary, Heavenly Birthday) and gently poke fun at which ones they’d actually use.
• They reflect on grief’s transformation: it may never disappear, but its weight and manifestation change over time.

“The grief feels different. It's more integrated. Yeah. So you see that and the feeling is still there, but it's a different kind of feeling.”
— Amy ([29:57])

8. Tuck and Roll: Fire Escape Planning

[36:31–46:54]

• Kat and Amy talk through how to safely escape from a second-story window in a fire (inspired by their broken smoke alarm).
• Entertaining exploration of emergency ladders, makeshift sheet ropes, and “tuck and roll” landings—with lots of laughter about practicing such a move.
• Intention: Add practical links or tips to their newsletter for listeners.

“So, Patrick, if we had to jump out of our windows, how do you land?... He goes, ‘Tuck and roll.’”
— Amy ([42:15])

9. Listener Mail and “It Depends” Merch

[47:00–53:04]

• “Dave,” a new male listener, writes in about giving feedback to partners and shares his own experience with burnout and detaching from email.
• Amy and Kat riff appreciatively on the wisdom of not expecting partners to read minds.
• Light-hearted plug for their “It Depends” hat—a symbol for life’s gray areas—which emerges organically from Dave’s advice and their ongoing podcast themes.

“This hat is an exhale. It’s a deep breath and an exhale to be like, you know what? It depends.”
— Kat ([52:01])

10. Dopamine Hits, Pilates Princesses, and Early Careers

[59:43–66:47]

• Kat recounts how the high from a good Pilates class (and a congratulatory note calling her a “Pilates Princess”) led her to impulsively buy a year-long membership.
• Amy shares her own experience as a reluctant gym membership salesperson, reinforcing how endorphins drive purchases.
• The segment meanders into both hosts’ first jobs at gym front desks, early professional embarrassments, and Kat’s unique living arrangement in “the shed” (complete with peeing in a vase), showing how humble beginnings lead to unexpected places.

"I slept in this shed and I peed in a vase."
— Kat ([68:05])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On revisiting old wounds:
  “I felt this, like, uneasiness in my stomach…all those old feelings came back…I thought I dealt with this.”
  — Kat ([18:02])

• On emotional progress:
  “You working through something and processing something doesn’t mean feelings go away. It means you learn how to cope with those feelings better.”
  — Amy ([27:38])

• On grief’s shape-shifting:
  “We've used the backpack example before…Some days that backpack may feel really heavy, and other days you're like, okay, the backpack's still here, but I can live my life with the backpack.”
  — Kat ([28:44])

• On joy in little rituals:
  “I feel a lot of marrying from my Christmas, but joyful from these things. We went to places in this city that I grew up in that I never have done before.”
  — Amy ([13:19])

• On life’s gray areas:
  "Life is gray. This hat is an exhale... It's a deep breath and an exhale to be like, you know what? It depends."
  — Kat ([52:01])

• On surviving two-story emergencies:
  “Which led me to: how would you jump out of the window? …Do you know how to do this?”
  — Amy ([36:20])

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Important Timestamps for Segments

• Holiday Movie Chat & Joyful Vibes: [03:13–05:10]
• Stovetop Smelly Christmas Stuff/Newsletter: [06:41–08:18]
• Staycation & Creating Joy: [13:08–14:49]
• Recovery & Revisiting Wounds: [18:02, 25:09, 26:57]
• Listener Email (Dave): [47:00–53:04]
• Dopamine & Pilates Princess: [59:43–66:47]
• Funny Story: Life in the Shed: [67:07–70:15]

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Summary

This episode of “Feeling Things” blends humor, vulnerability, and practical inspiration. Through personal anecdotes, Amy and Kat champion the pursuit of everyday joy—even in uncertain times—or when old anxieties and grief resurface. They encourage listeners to cultivate small rituals, give themselves grace for non-linear healing, ask for what they need (from partners or themselves), and remember that “it depends” is often the wisest answer. Along the way, their banter and honest storytelling create a feeling as cozy (and real) as their Christmas stovetop simmers and matching sweatsets.

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Find more:

• Newsletter sign-up and merch: [Show Notes / Instagram Bio]
• Favorite Christmas movies and stovetop potpourri recipe: [Newsletter]
• Tuck-and-roll window ladder and other tips: [Upcoming Newsletter]

Closing Words:
“We hope y’all are having the day you need to have.”
— Kat & Amy

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Transcript

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If you ever have feelings that you just want some. Maybe a cat got you covered like a number. Ladies and fellas, we just follow in the spirit where it tell us from the real stuff to the chill stuff and the in between. Sometimes the best thing you can do is just stop and feel things. This is Feeling Things with Amy and Kat. Happy Tuesday. Welcome to Feeling Things. I'm Amy.

[Amy]

And I'm Kat. And I'm coming in hot with my feeling of the day because I'm feeling it at a level eight.

[Kat]

Ooh. Eight out of ten. Okay. I'm at nine. I'm not trying.

[Amy]

You're just trying to one up.

[Kat]

I'm not trying to one up you. I promise. I just really. I'm feeling. I'm feeling it. I'm feeling it.

[Amy]

Okay, well, I'm feeling merry and joyful.

[Kat]

Same. Me too.

[Amy]

The same feelings.

[Kat]

Same.

[Amy]

It's like I gave you these feelings.

[Kat]

I also have a little bit of anxiety, but not about this topic at all. It's totally, totally separate. But it was like old feelings that came up. But we can get to that later because I don't want to kill the merry and joyful vibe because I'm with you. I watched my first Christmas movie of the season.

[Amy]

What was it?

[Kat]

It was on Netflix. It was an old one. It's not even new. So it was called the Count. The Christmas Contract.

[Amy]

Wait, what was that one about?

[Kat]

Contract with. She took a boy to her hometown because her ex boyfriend was bringing a girl and she didn't want to show up alone. So she took her best friend's brother and they had a contract to do it.

[Amy]

Did. Did they fall in love?

[Kat]

You have to watch to find out.

[Amy]

I think I've seen that. But, you know, they all run together. It would be really funny if you're like, I watched. Shoot. What. What's the one you were in?

[Kat]

Oh, Holiday.

[Amy]

I watched Holiday Harmony and I was like, oh, you watch your Christmas?

[Kat]

No, But I did wonder, should my boyfriend see that scene? I don't know. I want him to watch the whole movie because I think the whole movie is cute and adorable and awesome. And he does love Christmas movies because he started watching him with his daughter. I think she really enjoyed them. She liked watching with their mom. And then when their mom died, it's like, he's like, well, I guess I have to step in now as the Hallmark Christmas movie lover. And now it's Something they love to do, which we all watched it last night. The Christmas contract. We watched it her. The brothers watched the daughter. Yeah. So it was a bit. It was a family affair, and it was feeling good. And, like, in my kitchen right now, I have my Stovetop smelly Christmas stuff. We need a better name.

[Amy]

Stovetop Smelly Christmas stuff. So I want to get to that. But can I answer your question that. Yeah.

[Kat]

What was the question?

[Amy]

Should your boyfriend watch? Oh, yeah, I already forgot 100%. I feel like the whole family should watch. If Patrick's seen it, then your boyfriend should definitely have seen the movie that you're in. Your acting debut.

[Kat]

That's a big word to be like, hey, guys. So now that it's Christmas, this is, like, the first Christmas we've celebrated together. We're really close. I mean, I was with them last Christmas, but we were still new. So now that we're, like, all a lot closer, what do I say?

[Amy]

Like, if.

[Kat]

If we're all gathered around the TV and they're like, what are we gonna watch tonight? And I'm like, how about the movie I'm in?

[Amy]

No, you should decide what about holiday harmony? And you say, like, what it's about? And then you play it, and then it's a surprise.

[Kat]

Oh, like, they don't. They don't know that I'm in it. And then my bathroom scene comes up. Okay, well, maybe we'll do that, and I'll report back how it plays out.

[Amy]

Please do that. If they don't know already or if they wouldn't. Like, maybe they know you've been in a Christmas movie, but they don't know what it's called. That would be so good. And then you should, like, film his reaction when he sees you on the big screen.

[Kat]

Okay, I'll report back if I do that. But the merriness and the joyfulness is alive and well because I think tis the season.

[Amy]

Tis the season.

[Kat]

Even though there's other feelings happening, I just. Those are dominating. So that's why I'm a nine. It's not just because you're an eight?

[Amy]

Feels like it. So what's the Stovetop smelly stuff?

[Kat]

Well, we. You know about it, Kat, because we. We put it in our newsletter. But thank you for asking. Just for podcast listeners, it is something that was in our newsletter that went out last Friday with our merch stuff.

[Amy]

No way.

[Cal Penn]

Yeah.

[Amy]

I wonder who puts the newsletter together. You do.

[Kat]

Which is cute for you to act like you didn't know what it was. It smells so good. It's like Christmas in a pot.

[Amy]

I actually made it last year, the year before. I remember I went to the store and got all the stuff and Patrick was like, why don't you just light a candle?

[Kat]

Because. And I was like, it's different.

[Amy]

Not the same thing. And it's. You're creating a vibe.

[Kat]

Yeah. It's cranberries. It's cinnamon sticks, it's cloves. It's a sliced up orange. It's rosemary. It's water in a pot on the stove. And you light it. We had all of this in our newsletter, so this is why you need to sign up for the newsletter. Not only do we have little nuggets like this, which the week before, you send out your potato soup recipe. Oh, hello. So you just, like, never know what you're gonna get. We have things that Kat and I are reading, things we're loving.

[Amy]

The week before you put your Q tips.

[Kat]

Yes.

[Amy]

You never know what you're gonna get.

[Kat]

Well, those Q tips, to be fair or clutch, are a game changer. Before I found those Q tips, I only bought Q tips where it was round on both sides.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

I did not know people made a Q tip. Round on one side, pointy on the other. It's good for if you're trying to clean up your nails. It's good if you're trying to clean up makeup around your nose. In your nose. In your eyes, your eyebrows. Yeah. Under your lip.

[Amy]

Don't put it in your ear.

[Kat]

Yeah. The pointy part in your ear is a little rough. But don't sleep on those special Q tips. So I stand by that addition to the newsletter, I'm saying. So you never know what you're gonna get. And then on Friday in our newsletter, we also had our merch, which is so exciting. We'll link everything in the bio. If you are not on our newsletter yet, you can go sign up in the. Not the bio, the show notes.

[Amy]

Show notes. It's also in our Instagram bio.

[Kat]

Yeah. Which is Feeling Things podcast. But sign up for our newsletter. But we'll also link to our merch in the show notes. And I'll link to. Or I'll copy and paste the Christmas on the stove smelly stuff recipe. Stovetop Christmas, Stovetop simmers.

[Amy]

Stovetop potpourri.

[Kat]

I just don't like the word. I don't. I don't really like the word potpourri. And it reminds you of poop. I don't know. Potpourri. Potpourri.

[Amy]

Potpourri. Speaking of, can I tell that Story?

[Kat]

What story?

[Amy]

You on the phone?

[Kat]

Sure.

[Amy]

Amy just had a phone call on speakerphone, so I could hear the person she was talking to. And she answered the phone normal. She said, hello. And the lady was like, is this Amy? That wasn't her accent, but she had an accent. And she said something. And then Amy changed her accent to.

[Kat]

Mimic the lady, but I didn't even know I was doing that.

[Amy]

All of a sudden, we heard you go, hello.

[Kat]

I don't know why I did that. I really don't. I didn't even know why y' all were laughing at me. And then I thought, okay, well, that tracks. Like, sometimes I just, you know, conform to my environment because I. I don't.

[Amy]

Know, it's just like, switch. All of a sudden I was like, that was funny.

[Kat]

I mean, I know it drug out a little bit. I was like, hello? Hello? But, I mean, I didn't do it with other words, right?

[Amy]

No, you. Then you went back to normal.

[Kat]

But I was. That would be awkward. Yeah. I think just right away, I. I don't know. It's my first time talking to that person. I was a little nervous, so I think I just was like, oh, hello.

[Amy]

That's how you did it.

[Kat]

Yeah. That reminds me of Mrs. Doubtfire. Hello.

[Amy]

Can I shock you?

[Kat]

Have you never watched that movie?

[Amy]

Never seen it.

[Kat]

Yeah. You. Oh, my God, there are so many movies you've never seen. It blows my mind. Like, have you seen Elf?

[Amy]

Yes.

[Kat]

Oh, don't act like that's a crazy question, because that's, like, more recent quintessential Christmas movie. Like, you have to watch it. And then there's more, like, low key type Christmas movies, like while you were sleeping.

[Amy]

That sounds scary.

[Kat]

No, it's with Sandra Bullock.

[Amy]

Oh, never seen.

[Kat]

And he gets hit by the train. And then. Oh, you need to watch that. You would love it. It was my mom's favorite Christmas movie. So.

[Amy]

Okay. Put it on our list this year. Yeah.

[Kat]

Add it to the list with all the other movies we're supposed to be watching. I think there was something else we were supposed to watch, and I had two weeks to watch it, and I think, yeah, I'm not watching it. I'm just. Sorry. I don't want to.

[Amy]

I mean, I get it. I don't think you. I get, you know, I don't want to watch it again right now. Currently, where I am in my life. Yes, there is a. There's a cat cryo. Cat's asking if there's a live action. There was I love Mulan, probably one of my favorite Disney movies. I don't want to go see the live action.

[Kat]

Live action doesn't make me want to watch it anymore. Or less. I thought it would help. No, I just thought not. Not my thing. So. Okay. You're feeling the joy and the.

[Amy]

Okay, okay.

[Kat]

So the. The merry.

[Amy]

The Mary Joyful. The Mary Joyful. So I feel like I'm telling myself this, so I'll check it out with my actual therapist soon, but I feel like I've still. I've been in this stage for a while, which I've talked about, where I'm just like, there's a lot of things that are not in my control and I'm. There's nothing I can do at all. I'm just in, like, a waiting stage. And it is not just waiting for the thing, but it's also like, I can't do a lot of things that I normally would be doing right now. I. E. Go on trips, plan things, fun things like that. And because I can't do that, I can't distract myself. My favorite way to distract myself is planning a trip. Even if I'm not going on a trip, even if it's in the future, I can't do that right now. So I have been trying to find little ways to create joy and excitement in my life while this other thing is happening in the background. And so I won. What am I? Staycation. I'm on a couple weeks ago, and it was amazing. And I highly recommend doing that, especially if you have lived somewhere for a while and there are so many things that feel normal to you because you live there, but you've just never done them because you live there. You know what I mean?

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

And then so I went on vacation, and then I decorated for Christmas. Full decorated for Christmas. The day after Halloween, two days after Halloween, November 2nd.

[Kat]

And you're on it, man.

[Amy]

Yes. And so I. I feel a lot of marrying from my Christmas, but joyful from, like, these things. We went to places in this city that I grew up in that I never have done before. And.

[Kat]

And I will say some advice, like, if people are able, you may just have to do it on a weekend. You may have to work the full work week, and then you can do a staycation on the weekend.

[Amy]

And.

[Kat]

But you and Patrick, y', all, you took time off. Like, we. We even altered our podcast schedule because you're like, hey, I'm really trying to have off, as if I was actually on vacation. And in another town, it was almost like you were leaving, but you Weren't. And then y' all even had your mom, like, drive you around.

[Amy]

Okay, so we went to.

[Kat]

But. So. But I'm. I'm. I'm giving people pro tips of, like, how can you make it feel like.

[Amy]

Save money.

[Kat]

You're saving, but doing more.

[Amy]

Okay. And.

[Kat]

And you took off work, and, like, you. You still got your work done.

[Amy]

Took off work and you called your mom.

[Kat]

Yeah. So I know not everybody has that option, but I'm just make. I'm painting a picture that it wasn't, like, just, you know, a Saturday or a Sunday. Like, y' all really were intentional about it and made it a whole thing. And I think that helped make the experience like, you got your work done because Patrick also has responsibilities. But since you planned ahead, you're like, oh, let's look at the calendar and let's figure out how we can make this work, just in case anybody else has the flexibility to do that. I feel like that helped make the experience 100%, because much more.

[Amy]

Yeah, we were at home, but we also weren't doing a lot of things with other people. So we were just spending a lot of time together, as if we were on vacation. And my mom didn't just drive us.

[Kat]

We should just like your Uber.

[Amy]

So we went to Arrington Vineyards, which is a vineyard maybe 25 minutes from our house. I'd only been once 10 years ago, and Patrick had never been. And it's close by. Why wouldn't we do that? So on Friday, that's what we did all day, is we packed a picnic, and then he went on a run with me outside. He has never done that before. And then we packed a picnic and went. We Ubered there, and it was like $20, maybe 15. $20. We looked for Ubers when we were. We were getting ready to leave. Just guess how much an Uber was at that time. It was like four o'. Clock.

[Kat]

60 bucks.

[Amy]

$80.

[Kat]

Oh, my God. I mean, I was guessing high on the 60 just because you.

[Amy]

80.

[Kat]

Acted like it was gonna be a lot.

[Amy]

So I texted my mom when I was like, hey, mom, what are you doing? So she was. Yeah, she was. Well, she lives right there too. I guess. You live over there too. And she picked us up. It was five stars. Best Uber ride she showed up with. She had made mummy dogs, which are hot dogs wrapped in sourdough bread. She made them for my nephew, and she was bringing them to him. So she brought us to. It was literally like we were in. On vacation. We get into her car, our Uber, and She's like, I brought you guys waters, and I have two mummy dogs for you. She even packaged up individual mustard and ketchup packets.

[Kat]

So cute.

[Amy]

So we had a snack on the way home, so free Uber with snacks from my mother. Thank you, Jody.

[Kat]

I mean, that would make me Mary and Joyful. And then also, I will say, ever since we've gotten the merch, like, you're a vibe. I know you had this whole experience, so you're like, you know, got this energy about you, but you've been living in our sweatset for four days. So it's a hoodie and sweatpants and cats living in it. And I feel like your energy around it is so good.

[Amy]

As soon as I picked it up, I texted you, I will say if you're looking for something, I love a comfy anything. And I've been looking for a lot more comfy sets, and I've been ordering them from different places. Half of them I've sent back. I've not taken this off for. I took it off to wash. I will say that. And it still fits perfecto after I wash it.

[Kat]

And it's a matching hoodie with sweatpants. And it has, like, a feeling. Things like circle on the hoodie. And then it also has it on the pants, too, which people can go look. They might be. If you're watching on YouTube, you can see it. But if you're listening on the podcast, then go check it out. But I feel like a sweatset has made you happy. Your staycation has made you happy. And then I think the excitement of what you have, that you're talking, You're. You're. You have going on in the background. Like, Cat and I both have things happening in our life that we're not talking about really publicly. And. But I think your. Your situation is rounding a corner where it's kind of getting exciting. It's.

[Amy]

We're getting good news and we're getting closer, versus we're just like, we don't know what's gonna happen kind of thing.

[Kat]

Whereas my situation is bringing up, like, it's good. It's a good reminder of how two things can be true at the same time. Because I do feel this excitement and merry and joy towards this season. I love this time of year, and I want to go all in on that, especially since I have my kids and then I have now this other family that I get to celebrate with. But side by side with that, I have this other thing going on that is a lot, but it's not as overwhelming I think as it would be if I hadn't experienced something similar before. So it's sort of great because it's not my first rodeo, you know. However, today, literally I had to do something with regarding, like, finances and logging into stuff, and I didn't want to do it. And I felt this, like, uneasiness in my stomach and I used to get this thing in my throat with my finances, like anytime I had to address it or look at a spreadsheet or numbers or anything. And I felt some of that stuff come up again and I was like, oh, I thought I dealt with this. Like we had graduated and I now know how to log into stuff and I don't get queasy about it. And I had to go log in and it really was to check something. Normally I maybe would be excited about it, but all those old feelings came back that I just had to power through and I didn't let it overwhelm me or stop me. Well, I didn't really have a choice, but I think back in the day I would have found a way to escape it or delegate it or figure out, but I was like, nope, just log in, get the information, figure it out and move on. And so to anybody else, if, like, something comes up that you haven't felt in a couple of years and you think, well, shoot, I've done all this work and I was feeling empowered and I've even talked about how much more confident I feel about it and how I don't get that lump in my throat anymore and then it comes back. So then you feel like, oh, does this mean I'm going backwards? And I guess maybe it could, depending on your situation. Like, it makes me think of eating disorders and even, you know, alcoholics and if they're in recovery or whatnot. And you said something about recovery when we were talking about eating disorders and you were like, that's why they call it recovery.

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[Matt]

Hey y', all, it's Joel and Matt from how to Money. Joel, you were just out in Seattle recently, weren't you?

[Joel]

Yeah, man, it was amazing. I went for one of the most glorious runs of my life. Along the Waterfront. It had everything you could ask for. Crisp air, mountain views, fairies gliding across the water. Beautiful.

[Matt]

I love it, man. Yeah. For us, our road trip through Charlottesville was a highlight. We actually splurged on a custom built Airbnb and it was well worth it. The house had these unique touches like a poured concrete counter there in the kitchen with a built in drying rack. Super functional. It even inspired some ideas for our house.

[Cal Penn]

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[Joel]

Plus with a kitchen like that, you save money eating out.

[Matt]

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[Joel]

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[Amy]

Recovery instead of I'm recovered.

[Kat]

You're never recovered. It's always there. And so looking at my financial situation, kind of like how I look at eating disorder recovery, I was like, oh, that makes sense. Like there is some sort of thing that's in me and it may pop up next year, it may pop up next month, it might go away and pop up in five years. Like it may be something that is always within me, but it was also cool to see that I just take the next move and do the next thing and the next thing and then voila, it was done and the pain was minimal. Whereas I, if I had, I don't know, the word that's coming to my mind is succumb. Like, if I had given in to the, all the anxiety that was coming up, then I could have prolonged that whole process and it would have made it more dreadful.

[Amy]

Yeah, well, I think that.

[Kat]

So that's growth.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

Even though it felt like backwards, it's like, right, yeah, it was like backwards, but growth.

[Amy]

This is good that you're saying this because a lot of people, this happens all the Time where I thought I got over this, I thought I worked through this. I thought this was an issue for me anymore. And life happens. And like you said, that's always a part of me. It's why people say I'm in recovery or I'm recovering versus I am recovered, that you won't. You won't really hear somebody say, I'm a recovered addict or I'm a recovered. Whatever I'm in recovery from or. And what you demonstrated is I still had these feelings, and I'm still a human that is affected by things and can feel things. And now I have better tools and I know more and I'm better equipped to deal with them. So even like me, I'll have days. I've talked to you about them. I'll have days where I. My body image is, like, killing me, it feels like. And what do I always say?

[Kat]

Oh, I have my coping skills.

[Amy]

I. I have to use my skills today. I'm using my skills. I'm using my skills because I still am a. I'm a female living in this world where stress and things affect me, but I know how to deal with those things better. Sometimes I need some extra help. I know how to ask for that help now, or I know what to do when I'm in that place. And it sounds like you had an experience where this came up again. And instead of shutting my computer and going to. And going and ask somebody. Somebody else to do this for me, I worked through this, even though it was hard. You working through something and processing something doesn't mean feelings go away. It means you. You learn how to cope with those feelings better.

[Kat]

Yeah. Nor does it mean that I've lost any progress that I made. I do see how those thoughts could enter, though, and someone may feel that way. But I just wanted to send encouragement to anybody else because we had a question recently on the Bobby Bones show. I do a best bits or Morgan does the best bits every weekend, and she rotates people on the show. And a couple weeks ago was my week, and a question that came in was about eating disorder and someone said, are you ever fully recovered? And I wish I would have had what you said about, well, that's why it's called I'm in recovery. I'm not recovered. Well, I did answer it in that way. I just didn't have that language. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's such a easy way to put it. Like, it's sort of similar to grief. Like, it's always there. You always carry it. But The. The load doesn't feel as heavy. Like, we've used the backpack example before. Like, if grief is in a backpack and you're carrying it around, like, some days that backpack may feel really heavy, and other days you're like, okay, the backpack's still here, but I can live my life with the backpack. Yeah, I'm walking around fine. I'm walking around with ease. Like, it will always be. Like, there's not a day that goes by that. I mean, honestly, there's days go by that I don't think of my mom and my dad. That can't be true. I'm sure there's days where, like, they don't cross my mind. I'm just saying there's days. If they do cross my mind, I always miss them. But of all the days, is that weird to say. I feel like you gave me a weird look. Like, you don't think of your mom and dad every day.

[Amy]

I think you do. You don't realize it.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

I think you see, like, even looking in your backyard, you see the.

[Kat]

Oh, the bird chair.

[Amy]

Or the birds. I was thinking of your.

[Kat]

My rocking chair. My mom's rocking chair. Oh, I sold that on Facebook. Marketplace.

[Amy]

Okay, so you don't do that. You sold it.

[Kat]

Update. I know we discussed me doing it, and I thought that ultimately we decided on here that I was going to sell.

[Amy]

Oh, I thought we were going to refurbish it, but, like. Great. I'm glad you sold it. Great, great, great, great. Good for you. That was the right thing to do.

[Kat]

Hello.

[Amy]

Hello.

[Kat]

See, I thought.

[Amy]

I think you probably think of your parents more than you realize. It's just integrated into you. You.

[Kat]

Yeah, Like, I have my mom's. I don't have it on right now, but, like, I normally. I don't have on my pinky ring for my mom right now because it's a little teeny, tiny diamond fell out and I'm getting it fixed. So it's the only reason. But I always have that on. So you're right. Like, I probably look at that every day and think of her, but I just don't.

[Amy]

The grief feels different. It's more integrated. Yeah. So you see that and the feeling is still there, but it's a different kind of feeling.

[Kat]

Like, my mom, what are we, like, almost mid November now. So my mom, her. What do you call it? Death anniversary. Death anniversary. Her heaven birthday. What is it called? Anniversary of her birthday. The day she got her wings.

[Amy]

That sounds like a country, but I.

[Kat]

Feel like people call her. Yeah. Her birthday is coming up in December. I don't know how I feel about it, like, come December, but her death. A day.

[Amy]

What do people call the anniversary of her death?

[Kat]

I know, but I feel like there's a better way to say that the.

[Amy]

Day she got her wings.

[Kat]

Let's call it her heavenly birthday. Okay. The day she got her wings was October 27th. And then my sister's birthday is right after that, October 28th. And those two days are always kind of weird because my sister's birthday. My sister just texted me a red balloon because we associate red balloon with. My mom died, and I texted the red balloon back. And then my sister was traveling. She was in Austin, and she was doing family things there. So we didn't even really talk that day. And then it was weird because some. Some anniversaries of that have been really, really hard. And this year, it wasn't at all like, I sent the red balloon and of course I missed her, but I didn't. I wasn't overwhelmed. And I think normally when I feel overwhelmed, I'll do something like, okay, well, now we need to do something special, or, let's go on her mom so that I can have, like, more peace come over me. But I didn't. I didn't do that. And it was weird that I didn't even talk to my sister that day. I tried to call her. She didn't answer. Busy. But she was.

[Amy]

You also had a lot going on that day. I will say that. Like, that was a.

[Kat]

It's a good point. I think maybe also this team. This team this time of year. Not every year. This time of year. But what I have going on right now. You're right. Okay. I. I will say I felt it, but it wasn't like, as hard. Like, I didn't have a. A breakdown. Maybe I need to.

[Amy]

What? So why do you think you have to have a breakdown to miss somebody?

[Kat]

I don't know. Good question. Because then if you don't break down, do you even really miss them?

[Amy]

Look, do you miss your mom?

[Kat]

Yes.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

I was joking. I don't think you have to have a breakdown.

[Amy]

But I think what I'm hearing too, is usually it feels heavier, but also too.

[Kat]

You're right. Other things were heavier.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

So it's like I only have so much capacity to feel. And so the mom stuff actually seemed manageable.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

But that's okay. I. I feel like it's so It'll be. Every year is different.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

This is an example of that.

[Amy]

And I think to Speak on what you were saying before this year, you. It felt like it was manageable. It didn't feel as heavy. That doesn't mean next year you won't be in a place where, like, you do cry. That doesn't mean that, like, you're bad at grieving. That means that grief is not linear. Right. And. And growth oftentimes is not linear. Like, we, in our heads, think it's supposed to be. But things are going to affect us at different times in different ways based on what else is going on within our environment. And you have a lot going on within your environment that's probably taking up a lot of space from these other things.

[Kat]

Yeah. Shannon sent us other ways to say anniversary of her death. You ready for them? Remembrance Day.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

Commemoration.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

And Angelversary. Could you imagine if I was, like, texted you, today's my mom's angel bursary.

[Amy]

I know that I wouldn't say anything negative because I don't want to judge somebody who. If that's how they cope with that.

[Kat]

That's true.

[Amy]

I can't see you saying that, and I can't see. See myself using that. I think I would just say anniversary of her death. But I agree. I don't really like that. It's kind of a mouthful. And it's like, dun, dun, dun, like.

[Kat]

Anniversary of her death. The day she died.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

The day the music died.

[Amy]

I think heaven birthday is cute.

[Kat]

Her heavenly birthday.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

I think it's sweet.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

Let's hope she's there. I'm joking.

[Amy]

This is getting too heavy.

[Kat]

Obviously. Just kidding, right?

[Amy]

Yeah, for sure.

[Kat]

Yes, yes, yes. I know.

[Amy]

Obviously.

[Kat]

Duh.

[Amy]

Of course.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Question that doesn't come up.

[Kat]

What?

[Amy]

So I have a update.

[Kat]

Okay. About.

[Amy]

Well, I have two updates, kind of. One for anybody who's wondering. My treadmill is working.

[Kat]

Oh, yeah. You know, people were wondering.

[Amy]

And I will say somebody came and fixed it. I. Last week I was talking about, like, I have to take it down the stairs. This is gonna suck. They sent somebody to fix it for free. He was very nice. And he also told me it might have just been because I plugged it in wrong. But he waited to tell me that until after he. We. We wired. Rewired.

[Kat]

Rewired. You know, Rs and W's are hard for me. Yeah.

[Amy]

He rewired the whole thing. And then he was like, could have been just you plugged it in wrong. And I was like, okay, thanks for being kind about that. That brings me to upstairs, which brings me to my fire alarm, which Brings.

[Kat]

You to the question that doesn't come up. Yes. Okay.

[Amy]

So after I had the issue with my smoke detector that I talked about last week and I had the lady talking to me.

[Kat]

Yeah, that was weird.

[Amy]

So we now have. We haven't fixed it, we just took it off. So I started kind of panicking. Not super seriously, but like a little bit thinking in the back of my head, well, if there is a fire in our bedroom and we have to escape and we cannot get out of our bedroom, we're going to have to jump out our window. Which led me to. How would you jump out of the window? It's a two story building. Do you know how to do this?

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[Cal Penn]

Ed Helms here and hi, I'm Cal Penn and we're the hosts of Irsay, The Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club.

[Ed Helms]

This week on the podcast, I am sitting down with Jenny Garth, host of the iHeart podcast. I choose me to discuss the new Audible adaptation of the timeless Jane Austen classic Pride and Prejudice. This is not a trick question. There's no wrong answer. What role would I play?

[Kat]

You know what? I can see you as mistake, Mr. Darcy. You got a little Colin Firth.

[Ed Helms]

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[Matt]

Hey, y', all, it's Joel and Matt from how to Money. Joel, you were just out in Seattle recently, weren't you?

[Joel]

Yeah, man, it was amazing. I went for one of the most glorious runs of my life. Along the waterfront. It had everything you could ask for. Crisp air, mountain views, fairies gliding across the water. Beautiful.

[Matt]

I love it, man. Yeah, for us, our road trip through Charlottesville was a highlight. We actually splurged on a custom built Airbnb and it was well worth it. The house had these unique touches, like a poured concrete counter there in the kitchen with a built in drying rack. Super functional. It even inspired some ideas for our house.

[Cal Penn]

Ooh.

[Joel]

Plus, with a kitchen like that, you save money eating out.

[Matt]

Yes, exactly. That's what struck me. What seems normal to a homeowner owner. It can be the thing that makes a guest trip really special.

[Joel]

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Big things are happening at your local CVS Extra Big. So hurry on over because extra big deals are here. These are deals so extra that they absolutely cannot be missed. And every two weeks there's going to be more. So you've got to keep coming back so that you can keep on saving on all the brands and products that you and your family use every day. And Speaking of saving, ExtraCare is the way to save at CVS. So use your ExtraCare card to unlock savings every time you shop. And if you're not a member yet, now is the time to join. And the best part? It's completely free. Just sign up online or in store and you'll start saving instantly. And always be sure to check the CVS Health app for deals and savings. Visit your local CVS store or cvs.com extra big deals to shop this week's deals and stock up on your favorite products. I have thought about ordering one of those throwdown letters from Amazon. Oh, so I just haven't Ever done it.

[Amy]

Wait, what?

[Kat]

It's like a little, you know, rope with, like, little wooden. You know, it's not very sturdy at all, but it'll work in an emergency, and you throw it out and then you, like, climb down. So you can order those on Amazon.

[Amy]

Okay, I will be ordering that because. Carry on. Do you know how to jump out of a window, though?

[Kat]

I'm thinking. I'm thinking what I would do probably is I would get a sheet. My sheets.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

And make my own rope. Okay. Like, because I'm not jumping out.

[Amy]

You're not jumping out.

[Kat]

What, do you have some special way to jump and land and not hurt yourself? Like, I would. I would have. My sheet won't go all the way down, but I could maybe get down enough. Enough.

[Amy]

What are you connecting the sheet to so it doesn't fall?

[Kat]

Good question. Don't know yet. Maybe my curtain rod, because it's screwed into the wall.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

Could I tie it and then. Yeah, hang down. I'm still gonna have to jump, but just maybe not as far.

[Amy]

Okay. I'm thinking, like, the door, it's burning. You have 10 seconds to get out of here. The smoke is coming. Get out. Okay, so you're thinking, I have some time to make a contraption.

[Kat]

I guess I'm just gonna have to jump.

[Amy]

Okay. Do you know how to drive?

[Kat]

Oh, do you?

[Amy]

Okay, so.

[Kat]

Okay.

[Amy]

Okay. I do now. But I'm glad I'm talking about this, because I asked Patrick this, and he acted like it was like, well, everybody knows this. I said, patrick, if we had to jump out of our windows, how. How do you land? Because you don't want to land on your bottom because your whole. Your tailbone will completely shatter. If you land just on your feet, your. Your legs are going to shatter, and then, like, you can't land on your hands. You can't let it. Like, how do you land where you might be able to walk again? Because two stories is kind of high.

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

And we have concrete underneath of ours. So he go. I said, patrick, how would you jump out of this window? And he goes, tuck and roll.

[Kat]

What?

[Amy]

He just said tuck and roll. What are you talking about?

[Kat]

Stop, drop, and roll.

[Amy]

Like, a little different tuck and roll.

[Kat]

I'm not tucking. I can't tuck and roll out of a window. Like, what?

[Amy]

No, he means when you. So I looked it up. I actually, like, googled this, because I was like, how do you. He was like, everybody knows this. And I was like, I'm part of everybody, and I don't know.

[Kat]

Oh, oh, so you jump out of the window, and right before you hit the ground, you tuck and roll.

[Amy]

So, like, I'm sure you would just hit the ground as a roll because.

[Kat]

I'm picturing he's like, in the window and he's like, cannonball. He's like rolling out of the window. Like, how does it.

[Amy]

How, how you just do a front flip out of the window. Okay, so basically it says, the Internet says. And this is what he was saying is when you land, you land. And as soon as you land, you. You roll. So you're smoothing the impact so the impact doesn't all go through your legs.

[Kat]

I mean, I just don't know how I'm gonna.

[Amy]

I think I need to practice.

[Kat]

I do need to practice.

[Amy]

I need to practice, but not through the two story window. But I also was thinking maybe this is more. This is going to sound a little bit sexist, but I don't mean it that way. Maybe this is more natural for men because they're like football. He was like, in football, if you're gonna whatever, you, you roll. So you, you don't hurt yourself as much or you slide or you do whatever. So they're like taught how to. And he played rugby, so I'm assuming there's a lot of tucking and rolling where nobody ever told me.

[Kat]

Classic, classic rugby move.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

He's so manly. Patrick is so. Patrick, you're so manly.

[Amy]

I will say every time that he's done something recently, he'll be like, was that masculine?

[Kat]

Oh, just. So does he know I showed him.

[Amy]

Because I didn't want him to find out about that.

[Kat]

Yeah. If y' all don't know what we're talking about, listen to last week's episode.

[Amy]

Yeah, he. He knew exactly what I meant when I said it. But then now he's like, was that masculine enough for you? And I'm like, yes.

[Joel]

Anywho.

[Amy]

Anywho. Tuck and roll. So if you live in a two story building and there might be a fire if you have to jump out, which we hope that you have the time to make the sheet ladder. We should put the ladder in our newsletter. Can you give me that?

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Oh, Shannon already has it.

[Kat]

It'll be on our next upcoming newsletter. So make sure you sign up because you probably can't Google it yourself. We just make it easy for you.

[Amy]

You never know.

[Kat]

Oh, yeah. Okay, well, so now we know how. Questions don't come up. I. I didn't know how to do that, and now I know. So thank you for teaching me. I Feel like you saved my life. Honestly, potentially might.

[Amy]

We will net. We won't know until we know.

[Kat]

But I'm, like, trying to figure out how I'm going to practice because I would be scared to, like, jump from my kitchen counter.

[Amy]

You know, I think we need to go jump off stuff.

[Kat]

Yeah. But I'm nervous. I need to stretch more before. Or, like. Because I've got to build up, like, muscles and. And then form and. What you could do if you had time, honestly. I know the fire is coming. The fire is coming. But could you go in your closet and put on, like, Joey from Friends and put on, like, every clothing item that you have, like, every sweatshirt, jacket, and then jump out?

[Amy]

That's actually really. If there's a way to tie, like, a pillow around your bottom.

[Kat]

Yes.

[Amy]

Or on your knees.

[Kat]

Can you, like.

[Amy]

And can you jump with a pillow and then roll into the pillow? Okay. So we can add some stuff to the tuck and roll. But I do think maybe we should go to a park and jump off practicing.

[Kat]

Okay. Practicing our tuck and roll.

[Amy]

So if you see us tucking and rolling in a park nearby, just.

[Kat]

We could go to, like, a gymnastics place and practice, like, tucking and rolling into the foam pit.

[Amy]

Okay. Oh, we could just. I was gonna say, what do we say to the gymnastics people when we book a session? Like, hey, we just want to practice.

[Kat]

You can do adult sessions.

[Amy]

Yeah, but they're gonna be like, what do you want to come do? And we're like, free.

[Kat]

Free form.

[Amy]

We would like to practice jumping out of our window in case there's a fire.

[Kat]

I don't think they ask, like, what are you. What are you training for? Or whatever. You just say, like, I'm. I'm an athlete. Like, I want to practice.

[Amy]

Like, I'm an athlete. What do you mean, what am I here for? I'm here to do athletic things.

[Kat]

And then you just sign up. Yeah.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

Tuck and roll. All right. I have an email from a new listener named Dave. Hey, Dave. You don't know what that's from.

[Amy]

Do you know what it's from?

[Kat]

No.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

But I was hoping you did, because whenever I saw that his name was Dave, I had in my mind, hey, Dave. So if anybody listening right now knows what that's from, like, do you know what was up?

[Amy]

That's not a commercial.

[Kat]

Yeah. Budweiser.

[Amy]

So do you think Dave is, like, a beer commercial?

[Kat]

I don't know. It could be a movie, a TV show, a commercial, a meme. Nothing. It could just be from, like. I know. It could Be from nothing. It just could be from my brain.

[Amy]

You could have had a conversation with somebody named Dave in your head, and that's what you remember.

[Kat]

Like, I don't know. But I'm gonna. I'm gonna just. I'm gonna read his note and I just want to give a shout out because not only is he a new listener and he's already emailing. Yeah. But he is also offering some advice.

[Amy]

Okay, Dave.

[Kat]

Hey, Dave. Let's go, new listener. Give me that emailing. Because we've gotten some really good emails lately. Lately from listeners that have been listening a long time. And, like, you don't have to email right away at all because these listeners had not. They were like, I've been listening for years. This is my first time emailing. And I've. Or I've thought about emailing for two or three years now, and I'm finally sitting down to do it. And, like, that's really special. Like, if you take the time to sit down and email us, that's not lost on us. But he just started listening on October 14, so he hasn't even listening a full month.

[Amy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Kat]

Hey, Dave. Hey there, Amy and Kat. I just listened to your podcast on burnout October 14th and enjoyed the whole show. Good to hear the male caller who listens as a way to learn more about being a good partner with his wife. Us guys can always use some help in that category. Amy, you mentioned the meh massages from your boyfriend. My question to you is, do you ask him to do anything differently or just receive what he gives, feel unsatisfied, and not give feedback? Oh, you found a good knot. Can you dig into that area a little more? That feels good. Like, thanks. So Dave is saying, like, speak up. Tell him what you need. Don't hope he guesses right, and then feel disappointed when he doesn't guess right. Y' all know we are not mind readers, so lay it out there for us to digest and act on.

[Amy]

Let's go, Dave.

[Kat]

Hey, Dave. And why I listened in the first place. The burnout is real. I finally learned to let go and not be 100% attached to my email and phone when my dad was in his last days. Oh, his dad has a. Maybe he's a. Has an angel versary or a heaven birthday. What did we decide? Heavenly birthday.

[Amy]

Yeah, we didn't say angelversary.

[Kat]

Dave, tell us what you say. A coworker mentor encouraged me to go a day without looking at email and see if the world continued. It did not blow up. Since then, I have learned that I can go for larger blocks of time without staying connected. It has really helped me. A new and happy listener and probably soon to be a subscriber.

[Amy]

Dave. Dave.

[Kat]

By this point, he probably has subscribed in the newsletter. So he's emailed, offered advice, and subscribed for the newsletter.

[Amy]

Subscribe.

[Kat]

He probably is walking around. Well, they haven't shipped out yet. But I wonder if he's ordered a hoodie or a hat. Oh, here's our hats. But also he could have for people on YouTube. Sick. What does it say, Cat?

[Amy]

It depends.

[Kat]

It says it depends. This makes me think of this time I tried to do this viral video with Kat where I was like, hey, you know, like if you therapists rank their coping. Coping skills.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

So it's like journaling. And Kat's like, well, it depends. It's like going for a walk. Oh, it depends. And it's like, just say if you think it's a one or a ten. But Kat couldn't do it because it depends. She has integrity and it really depends. She can't just say something's a 10, which when for somebody else it might be a one.

[Amy]

Right.

[Kat]

So it depends. And then with the let them theory and Mel Robbins, it's sort of like, okay, yeah, let them works at times. But also it depends. So there's so many things in life where it's not black and white. This is a representation. Even though the hat is sort of off white and brown, life is gray. It's not.

[Amy]

Life is an opportunity to make a gray hat that says it depends.

[Kat]

It's fine. I kind of like this color combo better. But our sweatsuit is gray.

[Amy]

We couldn't make everything gray.

[Kat]

Charcoal. Yeah. And our T shirt is sort of gray. And it says half the day you need to have. But it depends represents the gray area in life where if you're feeling like it has to be this one way or another because sometimes we've been conditioned that way to be more black and white with our thinking. This hat is an exhale. It's a deep breath and an exhale to be like, you know what? It depends.

[Amy]

Right. Yes. I think that was the best natural commercial for that hat that anybody could have ever.

[Kat]

Except for. We gotta tell you.

[Amy]

Oh, yeah.

[Kat]

The hat arrives flat brimmed. It's not a flat brimmed hat. It is a you. You. You have to mold it with your hands yourself, which I didn't know. I'm sure Dave probably knows how to do this with a hat because Sort of like Patrick with tuck and roll. Like, guys probably just know how to do hats better than girls, but Cat's like, oh, no, this hat is flat. And I mean, it looked so ridiculous. But then finally, Camille, who's doing our merch, she's like. Like, hey, guys, I've never had any trouble bending the brim, so if you're having any trouble, just keep messing with it. Like, keep. You can't.

[Amy]

She sent. She said it really kindly, like, hello. Yeah, you don't want to, like, break it in half, but.

[Kat]

But, like, you just, like, fold from the. And, like, do, like, a scoop. Just feel like a scoop. So it depends a lot in life. Depends. Thanks, Dave, for your email. Also, I was gonna say your advice.

[Amy]

Subscriber. He could have been our a thousandth YouTube subscriber, maybe.

[Kat]

Do you think? I took that as he was subscribing to the newsletter.

[Amy]

I subscriber to anything. You could subscribe and be a follower of the podcast and subscribe to the podcast. Yeah.

[Kat]

We finally got a thousand subscribers on YouTube. And I found out, because I got an email, because I don't. I didn't go to the YouTube. I got an email from YouTube and they were like, congratulations, you hit a thousand. And I opened it up, and it was all these falling bananas. It was like a little dopamine hit. I don't know. I mean, YouTube has to know what they're doing.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

Like something was rewarding about the falling bananas, and you want to get more. They were like, let's.

[Amy]

Bananas.

[Kat]

Like, go bananas. You just hit a thousand subscribers or something. So I thought it was cute.

[Amy]

I think when you get a hundred thousand, they send you a plaque.

[Kat]

Sweet.

[Amy]

So road to 100,000.

[Kat]

Yeah, here we go. Except for you and I are the. We're not big on, like, the best at promoting it.

[Amy]

The YouTube.

[Kat]

The YouTube. Yeah, the YouTube.

[Amy]

But it will happen naturally.

[Kat]

It is happening naturally.

[Amy]

If you're listening and you have a Internet.

[Kat]

If you have.

[Amy]

Subscribe to us on YouTube.

[Kat]

Phone.

[Amy]

Yeah, subscribe to us on YouTube. Just throw us a little. That's. That's like giving us a thank you. You just subscribe.

[Kat]

Yeah. Even if you don't watch it over there, you can just.

[Amy]

You don't even have to. We'd love if you did watch it.

[Kat]

I don't really know what that does for us. Like, I. I'm sort of old school with this, like, podcasting. Like, I like that we just have listeners that listen on podcast.

[Amy]

Well, they can listen on the podcast and subscribe to our YouTube.

[Kat]

I know. I still just haven't figured out what that's doing for us yet.

[Amy]

It's making us get banana emails.

[Kat]

Yeah, I wonder what they send you at 2000. That that dopamine hit, though, is real. Like when I did Pilates the other day. Did I tell you.

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[Kat]

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[Kat]

You know what? I can see you as Mr. Darcy.

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[Amy]

I love that you called them beds. Did they call it?

[Kat]

I'm calling it that because I love that because I lay on it sometimes and do nothing. Like say I have bed number seven or machine machine number seven workout Nap. Then that means I'm locker seven and I can go put my stuff in locker seven. When I got out of my first class and I sign, I went to this class on a code. My friend had a code, so I went for free. Cost me nothing. I go to my locker, and they put a card in my locker that said, like, congratulations, Amy, you're a Pilates princess. You just finished your first class. Guess what I did. Guess what I did. Because you bought a package. Now I'm a Pilates princess.

[Amy]

You bought a package?

[Kat]

I bought a year.

[Amy]

Stop it. Yeah, they know what they're doing.

[Kat]

My dopamine hit was so high. But. But here's the thing. I. They gave me a code. The code was 20 off.

[Amy]

Well, they know how to get you.

[Kat]

So 20% off for a pack of five. Okay. But now. Now I'm a Pilates princess, so I have to show up way more. Yeah, Like, I'm in. The class was so good, too. Like, I really loved it. Guess what? I've been every day since I signed up. Every single day.

[Amy]

Let's go.

[Kat]

That's why sometimes I just lay there like, it's a bed, but I've been there.

[Amy]

Can I tell you some insider baseball of the gym atmosphere of selling?

[Kat]

Yeah. So they got me. Well, no, it was.

[Amy]

But it was a. Like, it is.

[Kat]

I was fresh off of a dopamine hit from a good workout.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

Ding, ding, ding. Then I opened the locker, and I have a card congratulating me, calling me a Pilates princess, and giving me a discount code.

[Amy]

I mean, that's probably.

[Kat]

And then I purchased something.

[Amy]

Did you get. So you bought that? Did you get any merch, too? Were they, like, if you buy merch. Well, you have to have those.

[Kat]

Yeah, but I already have plenty of socks. But I needed.

[Amy]

Did you get a discount on their socks and bought them that? Oh, you're like, well, I'm gonna buy these socks for you since you gave me this discount.

[Kat]

Yeah, you helped me out, but the discount was sick. It was good. 20 off.

[Amy]

Of a year?

[Kat]

Yeah, of the year. So that was where I say, I did the math. I saved the most money, and now I'm a Pilates princess, so I have to show up.

[Amy]

And because you might be a queen eventually, maybe. Here's the thing. To get your money's worth of that, you have to go the whole year.

[Kat]

That's why I'm going.

[Amy]

But you don't need to go every day. Like, you just go.

[Kat]

I know, a couple times. But now. But I'm but right now, I'm motivated, and I'm in, and I'm feeling stronger. Like, I already. On the bands. Like, I was having to do, you know, the different resistance levels. Like, say I was having to always go down from the recommended. They're like, just so you know, for this move, it's recommended red, red, red. But, you know, if you need to go red, red, blue, you're good. And I was always having to. I was like, shoot, I can do red. I got to go red, red, yellow.

[Amy]

Like, that's.

[Kat]

And so. And now red, red, blue, which, you know what's around the corner.

[Amy]

Red, red.

[Kat]

I know. So I'm getting stronger. Also. I feel better. Maybe my Mary and joyfulness is from, like.

[Amy]

Because you're a Pilates princess.

[Kat]

Yes. And I'm moving my body. Like, endorphins are legit.

[Amy]

Endorphins make you happy, and happy people.

[Kat]

Don'T kill their husbands.

[Amy]

Boom. Just saying.

[Kat]

So name that movie.

[Amy]

Legally Blonde. Okay, I've seen that one. Wouldn't be crazy if I hadn't seen Legally Blonde.

[Kat]

Not really. You haven't seen, like, a lot of classics.

[Amy]

Okay. I worked over 10 years ago at this gym, and my job was front desk, but I had to do sales, so I had to sell the memberships. And I wasn't very good at it because it gave me too much. I don't like selling things to people. I'm like, if you want it, here it is. But they were what Their motto was, you take the. You go to every class. The first class is free to get people in. And, like, I don't remember the percentages of it, but because people are, like, so hopped up on the endorphins after a workout, they are most. If they're gonna buy it, they're gonna buy it. Then they're not gonna. Like, I mean, sometimes I do go home and think about it and buy it, but, like, that's when you, like, wanted to lock it in. And they put so much pressure on us to put pressure on them. And I knew I was the annoying salesperson. You know that feeling? Do you know that feeling?

[Kat]

Oh, yeah.

[Amy]

Like, I know you don't want to buy this, but I have to give you the spiel anyway. Anyway, if you didn't buy it, then what they did is, we'll give you another class for free. But if you don't end up buying a membership, you have to pay for that class. So people would come back in, and they would be on endorphins again, and then I would get them so that's how they do it now. We didn't do. We didn't do the cards and we didn't call people like kicks, kickboxing queens. Yeah, we should have because that would have been a little extra. Umph. But I think what your studio is doing, they're doing it, right?

[Kat]

Oh, yeah. No, I mean, props to them. So anybody, if you own a fitness studio, you stick a card in somebody's locker, call them a princess. Like they're depending on their. I'm sure Dave probably wouldn't want to be. Maybe, Maybe Dave would. I don't know Dave's preference, but whatever.

[Amy]

You just. It's cute.

[Kat]

It's. It was good. You know what? Something I just learned about both of us is I used to work front desk at a gym. Ah. You know, we find our similarities like the same. We're the same except kind of.

[Amy]

Gym.

[Kat]

Yeah, Gold's Gym. I worked the front desk. I didn't have to sell any memberships though. But it was right after I got out of college and I was living with my sister and I needed to get a job because I didn't have a job, my job yet. I got into sales after that, but it was because I ran into a friend when she came in to work out there and she was like, oh, yeah, I'm working at Luke over with Luke over at agm. And I'm like, what? So then I call Luke and she was like, yeah, I think we might be hiring. And I'm like, luke, what up? He was my BFF in high school. And I was like, are y' all hiring? And he was like, yeah, let me set you up an interview. So it was all that, like, you never know. Like, I did not want to go work the front desk at Gold's, but it's like that is what led me to my next job. So sometimes you just got to do what you got to do. Like, I was working, I had to get there at 5am and I was working with some 18 year old kid and here I am.

[Amy]

You're like 21?

[Kat]

No, I was like 22. But I. He was like, I was out of college and he was in high school.

[Amy]

Yes.

[Kat]

And then my, my classmates that are starting their professional careers, careers were coming in to work out. And I'm like, do you need a towel? You know, but no shame. Like I, I think at the time I wouldn't have a problem with it now because it's like, whatever. Like, I understand life better. But I think at the time I was embarrassed.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

Because I was like, I'm like, don't forget to beep your car. Excuse me? Your carton skin. You need to check in. Because they were, they were sticklers about beeping the card and making sure people had a towel.

[Amy]

What if they were late on their payments? Did you have to like be like.

[Kat]

You know, I wasn't even that high level. Like, I was like literally bottom of the.

[Amy]

Like, I, I was started from the bottom.

[Kat]

I was with the 18 year old punk kid from like that just had finished high school.

[Amy]

And he's, he's like, you went to college for this?

[Kat]

And I was like, yeah, yep, yep, I did.

[Amy]

Could you fold the towels really well?

[Kat]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

You know, skills, I have skills, you.

[Amy]

Know, but did your gym have a.

[Kat]

I had to wake up so early. Oh, remind me. My sister's husband would talk about this. Like, I had to wake up so early. This is before I got into radio, which then I learned what early, early was doing. But I had to be at Gold's at 5am and I would go to bed at night and I would be so I'm dreading waking up. But I would sleep in my uniform and then.

[Amy]

Huh.

[Kat]

And then I would wake up and just get in my car and go to work.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

I'd sleep and it was like a black. Like the material was horrible, but black with like gold stripes. Oh. And I would just sleep in it. And that was when I was living with my sister's little. It was more like a shed, but we painted it and it didn't have a bathroom. Well, it was the only space and it was either that or go like live with my mom.

[Amy]

Did I have air conditioning?

[Kat]

No.

[Amy]

You lived outside.

[Kat]

I lived outside and it didn't have a bathroom. And I was too scared to walk into their house at night. I would pee in a vase. Yeah.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

I've come a long way.

[Amy]

You were working at Gold's gym and you lived outside and you peed in a base?

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[Kat]

Oh, my gosh. This is like the story, you know, you hear those people where they're like, you know, like Jewel was like, before I was famous, I slept in my car.

[Amy]

You're like, I slept in this shed and I peed in a vase.

[Kat]

Yeah. I mean, but I thought. But, but we painted the inside purple and then the outside we painted to match their house.

[Amy]

Could she not let you sleep on the couch inside?

[Kat]

I was excited about living in the shed. It was like my own space. Okay. We had a little makeshift closet.

[Amy]

Are you sure you have electricity?

[Kat]

Yeah. We had. I'm sure. Yeah, we had a light. Yeah, I had a light. Like a. You know, in the ceiling where you pull that string down.

[Amy]

Do you have any pictures of this, you think? Did you ever invite anybody over to your shed?

[Kat]

I know the vase looked like bamboo. Yeah, I did. Go on. Did you bring a date? A guy, A girl? So. So while I was.

[Amy]

I have my own place. You want to come over?

[Kat]

Yeah. So while I was working at Gold's Gym, I got to work out there for free. And so one day, after a workout. Actually, I think I had already. Did I move up to my sales job yet? No, because once I got my sales job, I got an apartment with roommates because I could afford it. But I must have just been working out one day because when I was going to the parking lot, this guy that was also working out, I did work there at the time, because I would check him in and be like, do you need a towel?

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Kat]

Okay. Have I told you with a guy where. I went on a couple dates with him, and then we went to the lake for one of our dates, and I realized he shaved his legs. And I was like, no.

[Amy]

Oh, yeah.

[Kat]

I can't. That was him.

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[Amy]

But he. It wasn't a deal breaker that you lived outside.

[Kat]

I don't think he realized that, because when he picked me up for my date, I had him meet me at my sister's front door, so he probably thought that was my house.

[Cal Penn]

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[Amy]

I was like, baller. She must own Gold's Gym.

[Kat]

No, my sister wasn't rocking that way back then, but.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Kat]

They were newly married with a baby. I mean, it was super cute house.

[Amy]

But, like, maybe she's the manager of Gold's Gym.

[Kat]

Maybe. Yeah, like, the manager.

[Amy]

But he never. You never brought anybody to your quarters. Okay. That would be hilarious.

[Kat]

Hilarious. All right, so, yeah, it's fun. All right, so fun. Fun thing. We used to both work at the gym. Good times.

[Amy]

I used to pee in a vase.

[Kat]

Yeah, I'm surprised I never told you that story.

[Amy]

No, you didn't. I'm glad we're doing this podcast because I'm learning more about you. Things that don't come up.

[Kat]

That's right. Things that don't come up. All right, well, we hope y' all are having the day you need to have. Right?

[Amy]

Can I say half of it?

[Kat]

Yeah, but you could say, like, check out our merch.

[Amy]

Okay. We didn't pre plan this.

[Kat]

We never do.

[Amy]

You say your thing again, and I'll say mine.

[Kat]

Okay. We hope y' all are having the day you need to have.

[Amy]

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[Kat]

Is that where they can shop the merch? We're linking in the show notes, but.

[Amy]

Feeling things podcast.com it's hard on the.

[Kat]

Video to see the pants. I think people should just go check it out because Kat ordered an extra large sweatshirt so it covers the pants.

[Amy]

I like to be overflowed in my sweat attire. My loungewear. Better way. I don't think you can really see them, but it says Feeling Things. Feeling Things. Feeling Things. Matching set. Cute.

[Kat]

And then have the day you need to have on a T shirt. Cute.

[Amy]

Cute.

[Kat]

It depends on a hat.

[Amy]

Cute.

[Kat]

All right, bye. We can do it together now.

[Amy]

Okay. Oh, now we can say it.

[Kat]

Now let's say, okay, so have the.

[Amy]

Day you need to have.

[Kat]

Bye.

[Amy]

Bye.

[Cal Penn]

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[Cal Penn]

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[Kat]

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[Amy]

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