Our Obsession with Barney, The Comparison Game, & Were You A Water Only Family?

Summary

The Bobby Bones Show – "Our Obsession with Barney, The Comparison Game, & Were You A Water Only Family?"

Date: February 7, 2026
Hosts: Morgan & Scuba Steve
Podcast: The Bobby Bones Show (Premiere Networks)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Morgan and Scuba Steve take a nostalgic journey through childhood memories, discuss the generational divide in kids’ programming, and play “The Comparison Game,” pitting brands, TV networks, and family habits against each other. They also reflect on adulthood realities – from parking at Trader Joe’s to insurance woes – and tackle viral parenting and social media trends. The tone is lively, friendly, and peppered with humorous, candid insights.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Embracing Childhood Curiosity

(02:16–03:16)

• Morgan shares inspiration from the idea that adults rarely question like children do.
• The hosts decide to structure this episode around playful, child-like questioning.
• Quote: “We as adults stop asking questions and being inquisitive like kids are.” – Morgan (02:44)

Memorable Moment:
Scuba Steve imitates his son’s relentless questioning phase, highlighting the difference between adult and child curiosity.

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2. 90s Kids TV Nostalgia: Barney & More

(03:28–08:22)

• Discussion of favorite colors leads to a deep-dive into Barney the Dinosaur history.
• Scuba Steve recalls meeting the original, dark-purple Barney at a Target before the TV show launched.
• Costume evolution: Original Barney was “scary,” and became more kid-friendly as the series succeeded.
• Morgan’s childhood involved Barney as her dad’s go-to “nap show.”
• Other favorites: “Out of the Box” (Morgan loved the imaginative possibilities, though real boxes failed to meet her expectations).
• Both note how powerful these shows were for their generation.

Notable Quote:
“I still have the original dark purple, scary Barney.” – Scuba Steve (04:04)

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3. Will Today’s Kids Have Iconic Shows?

(08:22–10:05)

• The hosts wonder if today’s shows will have the same lasting impact.
• Scuba Steve notes most kids’ media are reboots or continuations (Pokémon, Jurassic World).
• Bluey is highlighted as the rare new original with broad appeal.
• Some skepticism about “internet celebrities” transitioning to TV (e.g., Ms. Rachel).

Notable Quote:
“I know the artist that put 10 years in... and someone puts a video on TikTok and the next morning... they didn’t earn it in their mind.” – Scuba Steve (10:05)

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4. The Comparison Game: Childhood Allegiances

(11:04–18:05) A fun back-and-forth debate on classic “this or that” family brands and products:

• Disney vs. Nickelodeon (11:57):
  • Scuba Steve: Nickelodeon (“Disney was a premium!”)
  • Morgan: Disney (“We just watched on cable.”)
• Pepsi vs. Coke (12:50):
  • Morgan: Pepsi, because her mom worked at Pepsi, but “as an adult, I’ve morphed into Coca-Cola... mostly because of Sprite.” (14:37)
  • Scuba Steve: “Coke. Pepsi sucks.” (12:50)
• Walmart vs. Target (15:21):
  • Scuba Steve: Walmart, for cost-effectiveness.
  • Morgan: Started Walmart, now prefers Target/Trader Joe’s, though everyone hates TJ’s parking lots.
  • Quote: “Why do all Trader Joe’s have terrible parking?” – Morgan (16:37)

Segment Highlight:
They joke about ingrained childhood habits informing adult brand loyalty (“My dad still shops at Walmart.”)

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5. More Brand & Family Comparisons

(21:09–24:00)

• Lowe’s vs. Home Depot: Both favor Lowe’s, a nod to family tradition and its “friendly blue” vibe.
• Childhood environments influenced where they shop and how they view options as adults.
• Discussion about retail employee helpfulness today vs. the past ("Now you ask someone and they just look it up on their phone." – Scuba Steve (24:31))

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6. Landscaping, Pride, and Childhood Jobs

(25:20–30:27)

• Scuba Steve details his landscaping crew days (worked hard, got high-dollar clients).
• Both discuss the satisfying feeling of mowing and yardwork, from perfect lines to the joys and frustrations of weed-whacker string.
• Relate these tasks to a sense of accomplishment and generational differences in work ethic.

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7. Nostalgia for Youthful Games & Schoolyard Culture

(49:27–54:39)

• Rhyme games like "Bubblegum, Bubblegum" and "Down by the Banks” (with regional lyric variations).
• Cat’s cradle string game and “stacking cups” competitions.
• The regional and generational uniqueness of these fads.

Notable Quote:
“Thank you for bringing that back in my brain.” – Morgan, after an old hand-rhyme (49:45)

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8. Family Dining Styles: Water Only vs. “Pop & Apps” Families

(37:47–43:39)

• Do you order just water, or go all-in with sodas and appetizers?
• Both agree: as kids, eating out was a luxury (“once a quarter”), so their families splurged on full meals, apps, and dessert.
• As adults/parents, both are now more likely to stick with water and main courses.
• Parenting tangent: Scuba Steve vents about parents who let kids use noisy tablets at restaurants, versus engaging them with crayons and conversation.
• Family traditions of respect at the table, no screens, and meaningful mealtime.

Memorable Quote:
“Turn the damn phone off. It’s also disrespectful. I come from a military family and…no one’s watching TV or anything… you’re fixated on the moment of the meal.” – Scuba Steve (40:32)

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9. Growing Up Fast Food: Happy Meals, Beanie Babies & Nostalgic Foods

(46:42–48:46)

• Collection habits: Happy Meal toys, Beanie Babies, Hot Wheels/Barbie deals.
• Fast food as a staple: “Had so many Happy Meals growing up.” – Morgan (46:55)
• Mourning discontinued favorites (Taco Bell’s Choco Taco).
• Dessert-first restaurant strategy (“Because dessert is what I wanted!” – Morgan (48:13))

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10. Rants & Realities of Adult Life

(34:54–37:22)

• Insurance is “a scam,” as are cable and streaming bundles that outpace cost savings.
• HOAs: hilarious but real frustration about rules and lack of service (“You’re mad about this, but not… the way this place looks.” – Scuba Steve (34:51))

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11. Social Media, Algorithm Angst & Platform Switching

(55:15–63:20)

• Brief rundown on the recent TikTok ownership change and audience skepticism.
• Discussion of cycles in social media popularity (Facebook, Snapchat, Instagram, Twitter/X).
• Scuba Steve rails against influencer advice videos, especially those made while driving (“You want to know why traffic sucks? There’s accidents – ’cause they’re on your damn phone!” – Scuba Steve (58:16))
• Advice: keep posting, adapt to platforms, don’t buy the hype about “dead” apps.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• On Barney:
  “I met Barney the first time... the original guy was scary in dark purple... I still have the original dark purple, scary Barney.”
  – Scuba Steve (04:04)

• On 90s Nostalgia:
  “It feels wild. I don’t know about you, but the 90s feel like just centuries ago.”
  – Morgan (07:50)

• On Brand Loyalty:
  “We were a Pepsi family. My mom worked at Pepsi.”
  – Morgan (12:50)

• On Adolescence Rituals:
  “Why do all Trader Joe’s have terrible parking?”
  – Morgan (16:37)

• On Parenting & Technology:
  “I'd rather them be kids and eventually acclimate to going out and doing things than to be a zombie... Turn the damn phone off.”
  – Scuba Steve (40:32)

• On Family Dining:
  “We were taking advantage of that time slot and eating it up as long as we could and doing everything because we weren’t going to be there again for another three or four months.”
  – Scuba Steve (38:02)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 02:16 – Show intro, curious kid questions
• 03:28 – Barney and kids’ TV shows
• 08:22 – TV generational nostalgia vs. today
• 11:04 – The Comparison Game (Disney/Nickelodeon, Coke/Pepsi, Walmart/Target)
• 21:09 – Lowe’s/Home Depot, childhood family brands
• 25:20 – Landscaping stories and work ethic
• 37:47 – Water only vs. “apps and pop” families at restaurants
• 40:32 – Parenting, restaurant phones & etiquette
• 46:42 – Fast food childhood, toys & food nostalgia
• 49:27 – Schoolyard games & regional variations
• 54:55 – Social media, TikTok transitions
• 58:16 – Rant on influencer advice & phone use while driving

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Summary

This episode is a genuine, laugh-filled romp through the quirks of growing up in the 90s and the sometimes-fraught realities of adulthood and parenting today. Morgan and Scuba Steve shine brightest when trading stories about childhood memories, confessing brand allegiances, and debating modern inconveniences, from Trader Joe’s parking to digital algorithm fatigue. Their candid, conversational style offers both nostalgia for millennial and Gen X listeners and thoughtful insight into parental, social, and consumer habits — all while keeping the tone electric and relatable.

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Transcript

[Morgan]

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[Scuba Steve]

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[Scuba Steve]

The Best bits of the week with Morgan part one. Behind the scenes with a member of the show.

[Morgan]

What's up, everybody? Happy weekend. Scuba Steve is joining me. What's up, Scuba?

[Scuba Steve]

Yo, what's up? Putting out fires like a fireman over here.

[Morgan]

Oh, you are a fireman. What? Mr. Fireman.

[Scuba Steve]

Fireman. Fireman for fireman.

[Morgan]

Is that Lil Wayne?

[Scuba Steve]

Lil Wayne.

[Morgan]

Ha ha. Yeah, baby, baby. Well, Scuba, how are you? I've decided that we may do this podcast in the form of a kid asking questions.

[Scuba Steve]

A kid asking questions? Okay. What do you mean?

[Morgan]

I saw a thing online and it Was interesting to me. Where it was like, we as adults stop asking questions and be inquisitive like kids are.

[Scuba Steve]

Oh, yeah. My son, who's seven right now, he is in the question asking phase. And then he doesn't even get to the answer of the first question. He just dives right into the next question. And then I start to answer the first question, he's already in the third question. The fourth question, I'm like, dude, slow down. I'm still on the first one.

[Morgan]

But they're so inquisitive and they learn so much. Whereas we, as adults stop asking questions.

[Scuba Steve]

And their brains are on fire. Yeah.

[Morgan]

Of learning things. So I've decided we're just gonna ask a lot of questions this episode.

[Scuba Steve]

Okay.

[Morgan]

All right, let's do it back and forth. If something comes to your mind, we're just gonna roll with it.

[Scuba Steve]

All right, I'm rolling.

[Morgan]

That's how we're vibing.

[Scuba Steve]

I'm rolling on Molly, and I'm rolling all these questions.

[Morgan]

First of all, what is your favorite third favorite color?

[Scuba Steve]

Third favorite color? My first favorite color is blue. Second favorite color is black. My third favorite color. Ooh, it's like a tie between purple and green.

[Morgan]

Okay, a little Barney action there.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. Oh, I love me some Barney.

[Morgan]

I loved Barney, too. Heck, yeah.

[Scuba Steve]

I love you, you love me.

[Morgan]

Oh, yeah. I sing that to my dog a lot.

[Scuba Steve]

I love you, you love me.

[Morgan]

We're a happy family with a great.

[Scuba Steve]

Big won't you say you love me too? Boom, boom. I met Barney the first time when he was. It hadn't even been. I think they hadn't even released the show. It was like a promo for, like, the preview of when it was going to come out, because there was two different Barneys. The original Barney was like a deep, dark purple. And then. And then after they got budget and the Barney became, like, it started doing well.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Scuba Steve]

Then they got a new Barney. Like the second or third season. He was more of, like, a lighter purple. And the costume got. Had more money involved. You could tell it had more of a budget budget because it started form into, like, this really cool costume. But the original guy was scary in dark purple. And we were at Target in Oviedo, Florida, which is outside of Orlando. And we were just there one day, just shopping in, like, the early 90s, like 92 or 93. And they're like, hey, you guys want to meet Barney? We didn't know who the heck Barney was. And it was like a meet and greet, Like a pop, like, almost like a radio Station pop up. Yeah. Had a bunch of Barney toys all around him. And he was. He was there, the real Barney. And they had the kids from the show. They were all there. It was pretty wild. I think Sandy Duncan or somebody was the mom, and she was there, and we met him and got the original Barneys. I still have the original dark purple, scary Barney.

[Morgan]

I was gonna say I was looking at photos, and you're right. I don't. I mean, I don't really remember it. It kind of reminds me of the. You know, when we all think that the Monopoly guy. Yeah. Has the monocle and then he didn't.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

This is probably one of those situations, because I definitely don't remember the original Barney, but I know I was watching Barney from beginning to.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Morgan]

My dad used to. He'd get home from work, and him and my mom would swap places. Like, he'd work third shift, and then my mom would go work. And that's how they watched us. It's how they raised us. So my dad would get really excited when he came home because if he put on Barney, it meant he could take a nap while we were watching it.

[Scuba Steve]

Oh, yeah. Parents have, like, their nap. Their nap shows the. Guaranteed, if I put this on, I have a solid 20, 30 minutes of they're going to. They're going to leave me alone for sure.

[Morgan]

And that was Barney for us, for my dad. And so I know we watched all of it. Heck, we even dressed up as Barney as kids like that. We loved Barney.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, yeah.

[Morgan]

But I definitely remember the pink one. I don't. I don't remember the scary one, but I'm seeing him now, and he sure is a little bit scarier than the, Like. It's almost like the first one looks like a male version and the second one is a female version.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. It's almost like they got. You know how whenever you do something and you. You like the pilot or the first of anything, you get feedback. And they probably had feedback from people like, hey, it's a little scary, and, you know, lighten it up a little bit. And then they could even put, like, eyelashes on it and everything. They really. And the budget, I'm sure, increased from season one to two and so on.

[Morgan]

Yeah, for sure did. That's crazy. I didn't realize he was different colors.

[Scuba Steve]

Oh, yeah. And that's before BJ and Baby Bop and all that. It was like just Barney.

[Morgan]

Did you ever watch. One of my other favorite shows that I really love was out of the Box. That was a Disney Show. And I don't know if that's a little bit too out of the box.

[Scuba Steve]

That may have been, like.

[Morgan]

So they would be like, they would build all these little cardboard boxes.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And then they'd all walk into it and it'd be like this giant, like, fort, if you will, that was full of all kinds of things.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. I don't remember watching this one. It did come out in 98, so, I mean, I. I had. My sister was three, but I was. At this point, I feel like I was not home very much. I was starting to work and get going in life.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. I don't think. I think. Oh, yeah, I've seen. Oh, you know, I've seen previews for it because I recognize the mom and dad in here.

[Morgan]

Yeah. There's a song. I was like, out of the box.

[Scuba Steve]

Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

[Morgan]

It was such a vibe, but I loved it. And I always thought for, like, the longest time that if you crawled into a cardboard box, it would turn into, like, a tree fort because of that show.

[Scuba Steve]

Well, it's supposed to be just your imagination, you know, but their imagination's screen, so they have to actually do it.

[Morgan]

Exactly. But see, my imagination, it did not work out with the cardboard boxes. I tried. I tried a few times, but that's what it also reminds me of.

[Scuba Steve]

Wow. It's crazy. Look at the lady who. You can't see us if you're listening, but the out of the box lady, Vivian, Bayou Bay, maybe she's Filipino.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Scuba Steve]

Wow. She, like, has gray hairs now and stuff. Whoa. This is crazy.

[Morgan]

It feel. It feels wild. I don't know about you, but the 90s feel like just centuries ago.

[Scuba Steve]

It does. Yeah. I mean, it kind of almost was.

[Morgan]

Decades ago, but centuries. It feels like it. It's like I feel truly like I'm 100 years from the 90s.

[Scuba Steve]

Oh, my gosh. She only has, like, 7,000 followers. You should reach out to her and, like, interview her for your podcast for. For. Take this personally. I don't know how. What the angle is on that, but. But I feel like. I feel like she's obtainable.

[Morgan]

Yeah, it could be cool. I mean, I just love, like, how impactful those shows were for us.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Do you think there's going to be any impactful ones like that for your kids?

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. You know, you think about that because there's so much recycled stuff where either they're. They're watching the original shows we watched, or they've been rebooted 45 million times and, like, original ideas are, like, Few far in between. So it's a great question because I'm trying to think of like anything original my son watches. It really isn't original. He watches Pokemon, which came out in the 90s. Yeah, they like Jurassic park, which came out in the 90s. And then they have Jurassic World, which is like a reboot, a new version of it. And what else do they watch?

[Morgan]

The only one that that comes to mind is Bluey.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, Bluey is the only one original. Ish one.

[Morgan]

Yeah. But I don't know that there's is Ms. Rachel technically, because I feel like we had Magic School Bus, which was a similar vibe to that.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, yeah. I don't know anything about Ms. Rachel. I mean, I know who she is. Yeah, but we don't. We don't do that.

[Morgan]

Yeah, I haven't. I haven't watched any of her stuff. I just see her.

[Scuba Steve]

So it's kind of weird if you watched Ms. Rachel as a grown ass woman.

[Morgan]

I'm not gonna lie, there's been a few times I've watched Bluey, but that was because I put it on for Remy.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, yeah, Bluey. Bluey. Actually, like, I mean, Ms. Rachel, not the crap on her, but she's like an Internet person that now is a TV show. And so I'm sure it's like, whatever.

[Morgan]

So it's not a true, like original TV show. Kind of like our 90s that we're talking about.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I know there's different ways to become something now, and the Internet is a way to become famous or make yourself go somewhere, but I don't know, I just feel like it's like, it's almost like dating websites. Like there was an ick. It was like, oh, you're on like back. My mom was single and dating guys were like, oh, you found them on the Internet. You're a loser mom. And so there's like an ick to me with. With Internet where they start an Internet and I'm like, oh, gross. You were on the Internet. You didn't have, like, you weren't properly trained or worked your whole life with professionals to get to this place. You were on the Internet and just someone picked you up. Like, gross.

[Morgan]

I didn't know there could be a professional ick, but here we are.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. I think if there's an egg. I think even like in the country music industry, they'll never ever say it out loud because it's so incestuous and everyone wants to. Don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. But I know the artist that put 10 years in and busted their ass and like a Lainey Wilson or a jelly roll. Not saying they've said this, but where they put in this long crap, this long, hard road to get to where they're at. And someone puts a video on Tick Tock and the next morning they wake up and it's got 10 million views and they get a record label and they get all these things and then there's no. Like, they didn't. They didn't earn it in their mind. So they're like, screw them as the. You know, they'll never say that, but I know they're like, screw that person for never. For not having to work the way I worked.

[Morgan]

And that's how you feel too?

[Scuba Steve]

That's how I feel.

[Morgan]

How.

[Scuba Steve]

You know, that's how I feel towards Internet fame. Yes, exactly.

[Morgan]

Got it.

[Scuba Steve]

I see.

[Morgan]

I'm following.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. Ye.

[Morgan]

The back on our TV thing. Paw Patrol.

[Scuba Steve]

Paw Patrol, that's another. Yeah. I feel like Nickelodeon has done a really good job of coming out with more because Nickelodeon's always pumped out content, you know.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Scuba Steve]

And I feel like that's a Nickelodeon Paramount property. Paw Patrol is unique. My kids used to love that. Not so much anymore. My daughter watches, which is funny because whenever Nickelodeon Universal comes out with something Disney, there's always this battle, whether it's at theme parks or it's their television shows or whatever. And so Disney has a show called Super Kitties. And so it's the Save the Paw Patrol, but they're cats. And my daughter, my youngest, who's three, loves Super Kitties.

[Morgan]

That's so funny. It's funny to me that that's always been a battle. It's like you have these two competitors of kid networks, basically, and Disney's evolved and obviously Nickelodeon's evolved to adult with Paramount.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So they've had their evolution. But it is funny to think about that they were just always these two competing and that was it.

[Scuba Steve]

Constantly. Pepsi and Coke, Walgreens and cvs, Home Depot and Lowe's. Disney and Universal.

[Morgan]

Okay. Okay. This. This will be fun. Okay, what we're gonna do, like, which side are you on?

[Scuba Steve]

Okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Morgan]

So Disney. Nickelodeon. Which one are you going?

[Scuba Steve]

Nickelodeon.

[Morgan]

I'm Disney.

[Scuba Steve]

See, I like Disney. I love Disney. But. But we were way more in our household because Disney was a premium. It cost more money to have Disney at the time. I felt like in the early 90s, it was almost like you have had to pay extra for it.

[Morgan]

It was on, like, cable.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

We just watch it on cable.

[Scuba Steve]

Well, yeah, I'm a little bit older than you. There was a time where on the box you were able. I forget the whole setup. But there was different levels of your cable package. And our basic level cable package carried Nickelodeon. But in order to get Disney, you had to pay a higher premium and we couldn't afford it. So we'd only watch Disney when we went to our aunt and uncle's house in Tampa because they had money and so we'd watch Disney.

[Nav Green]

There.

[Morgan]

Got it. So you're telling me monopolies have always been a thing?

[Scuba Steve]

Oh, my God. Yeah. Totally. Yeah.

[Morgan]

This is just the beginning.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're just way too deep now.

[Morgan]

Okay, so I got Disney, you got Nickelodeon.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, yeah.

[Morgan]

Pepsi or Coke?

[Scuba Steve]

Coke. Pepsi sucks.

[Morgan]

We were a Pepsi family grow up. My mom worked at Pepsi.

[Scuba Steve]

Oh, gross.

[Morgan]

So she. She. Like, my dad and I would drink Diet Mountain Dew liters all the time. And my mom and sister would drink Diet Pepsi Mountain Dew or Diet Pepsi liters all of the time. And that was, like, our go to for forever. I was talking to a friend about this because it was weird. We drank it every single day.

[Scuba Steve]

Pepsi.

[Morgan]

Growing up, I drank Diet Mountain Dew. And then my mom and sister drank Diet Pepsi. Oh, I know. Trust me, I know.

[Scuba Steve]

Like, when you taste it now, like, you taste the major difference with diet and reg, and they're both really bad for you, but diet's even worse. Artificial crap in it.

[Morgan]

It's all bad now. Like, I try it now, it's disgusting to me.

[Scuba Steve]

Yes. Yeah.

[Morgan]

But there was this one day where I just stopped drinking it.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And I don't know what day that was or what caused that, but it was a weird thing because I did it every day of my life for years, and just. And then all of a sudden, one day, it was just not a part of my life. And I try and look back on that because it was so ingrained into me what happened there.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. What turned off or what turned on?

[Morgan]

Yeah. Like, I don't know if it was a moment of the fake sugar that that was the turn. I don't know. But I was thinking about that the other day. Random tangent, but that is why we're a Pepsi family. I grew up on it.

[Scuba Steve]

We were all Coke and it was. Someone would bring over, like, RC Cola or Check or something. Like when we were like, ew, get that out of here, Loser. Because that's something about the Coke. There's the way it burns your throat going down. Like, it's especially Coke. At a theme park like Disney, they add extra sugar into their Coke and it's even better. Oh, my God, more sugar. It's awesome. I don't drink it as much as I used to when I was younger.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Scuba Steve]

But, but. And I. But I still. I'm not like, I don't cut it out completely. I'll probably once a week have a Coke and manage just something about it. Just.

[Morgan]

You are right. I will say, as an adult, I've probably morphed into the Coca Cola side more so. Because of Sprite.

[Scuba Steve]

Okay. Oh, Sprite's good too. Ooh, I love a Sprite.

[Morgan]

You give me a Starry, I will punch you in the face.

[Scuba Steve]

Yes.

[Morgan]

It is nowhere near the same thing.

[Scuba Steve]

No, by the way, used to be Mellow Yellow, and they rebranded it and it became so dumb. Like, you can change that name. It's lipstick on a pig. Man, that thing sucks.

[Morgan]

Oh, yeah, it's terrible. The whole time, I. Every time if you go to a restaurant and like, sometimes when I would be hungover, I really wanted to Sprite. That was like my ginger ale, if you will. And I would go to a place and be like, we have started saying, I'm going somewhere now.

[Scuba Steve]

We're good. Cancel the whole order. Is Pepsi okay? Actually, it's not. So I'll just take water. Or you can cash us out. We're done. We're done here.

[Morgan]

So I. You know what? I've morphed to your side as an adult.

[Scuba Steve]

Good. Okay, cool. Good.

[Morgan]

What's another Walmart? Or what's. What's Walmart's main competitor? Target. Yeah.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. I mean, it just depends because they're similar, but in the sense of it, I guess depends on what you're looking for and what you're going for. As a kid, my mom loved Target, but we also go to Walmart because it was close to the house. So we were. We were kind of like, not divided on that. But I think I've gone through seasons of my life. Like, right now I'm all about Walmart because it's much more affordable.

[Nav Green]

Yeah.

[Scuba Steve]

As far as when you go to. For the grocery side of things and all that. So I think we're a Walmart family now.

[Morgan]

This isn't that interesting. Like, you. You started there and swapped. Whereas, like, I started as a Walmart girl growing up, like, that's the only place we ever went. Mostly because we didn't have a lot of other options for grocery stores. Up until I was maybe in. It was like middle school, high school. Where we got a Dylan's, which is the Kroger brand.

[Scuba Steve]

Okay.

[Morgan]

And then we got a Super Target. And that was a huge deal. In my town.

[Scuba Steve]

Super Target things are massive.

[Morgan]

Oh, it was. It was the biggest deal. And they were right by each other. So it was competition for days, but so most of my life. And my dad still shops at Walmart for. For groceries. So Walmart. And then I morphed kind of into now more Target. But honestly, Trader Joe's is probably more of my. Between the three, I think I just choose.

[Scuba Steve]

I hate Trader Joe's because the parking lot is a pain in the butt.

[Morgan]

Yeah. Why do all Trader Joe's have terrible parking?

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. They pick a parking lot the size of a fast food spot. Like even anywhere, it doesn't matter where it's at. And at first I thought it was like, okay, because when I first got exposed to Trader Joe's, it was in California and it was in San Francisco, where there's a very limited parking, small lot, everything is all small. So I just figured, oh, it's just because I'm in the city. Of course it's a small parking lot. And then I went out further into the East Bay and it was still in a small parking lot where there's plenty of space. And then I was like. And then I went down to LA and I was in. Went to a Trader Joe's and it was over there somewhere, like in the Hollywood area. And the parking lot was behind the Trader Joe's and it was hella small. And I was like, maybe it's just. Okay, it's got to be a California thing.

[Morgan]

Like, you kept just trying to justify it.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. Yeah. Like, maybe it's just because of where I'm at geographically. But then they started moving out this way and I went to one here and I'm like, what the hell is happening? Why do they choose the smallest real estate to put a grocery store. And then the parking. Such a pain in the ass. I'm like, I don't even want to deal with this. I'm out. I don't go there anymore because of that.

[Morgan]

There is something with Trader Joe's and parking lots. And I'm sure there's a strategy behind it. Yeah, I don't know what it is.

[Scuba Steve]

Cheaper rent, maybe. I don't know.

[Morgan]

Maybe also maybe always looking like they're busy.

[Scuba Steve]

Oh, yeah.

[Morgan]

There has to be some strategy behind it. If they're all like that because it's.

[Scuba Steve]

A pain in the ass, I don't go there because of the parking.

[Morgan]

That's fair. But, man, they have such cool, like, fun. Different items from all over.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, it's not worth the stress for me. Oh.

[Morgan]

But I also go during the day. That helps.

[Scuba Steve]

Okay. Even during the day, I feel like it was a pain in the ass. Everywhere I went, I was like. I was like, it's a great. I. The place is great. Great food, but, man, the parking's a pain in the ass.

[Morgan]

That's funny.

[Scuba Steve]

I'm out.

[Morgan]

Okay. We have more. I want to do more of these. We're going to take a break. We'll be right back.

[Nav Green]

This show contains information subject to but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? This your boy N Green for from the Broken Play podcast. Look, it's the end of the season. The playoffs are here. But guess what? It ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play podcast with Nav Green on the Black Effect podcast network. Not a team who ain't going to the playoff. The Chiefs. What's a wrap? It's time to rebuild. Who your MVP right now.

[Scuba Steve]

Then Drake May up there. Josh Allen up there still. Oh, my boy Matthew Stafford. Where did. He ain't too far behind.

[Morgan]

He did all this talking.

[Scuba Steve]

What Matthew Stafford is doing statistically, bro, is crazy.

[Nav Green]

Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Stafford got better web Caleb Williams.

[Scuba Steve]

Hey, he should be in that conversation.

[Morgan]

And what conversation?

[Nav Green]

He should be in it. Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from the Black Effect podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or whatever, you get your podcast.

[Scuba Steve]

The Volkswagen Beetle started out as Hitler's dream car. It wound up as a beloved hippie icon and the best sell of all time. How did that happen? I'm Jacob Goldstein. And I'm Robert Smith. On business history, we tell the surprising stories behind the inventions and entrepreneurs that shaped our economy. And the story of the Beatle is truly surprising. It has so much in it. It has Nazis. It has the German economic miracle. And it features one of the most famous ads of all time. An ad that really redefined what advertising was in the United States. The calculation was that there was some number of Americans who were ready for something different, who were ready for something that was counter to the culture, if you will. Perfect timing in the decade of the 1960s. Listen to Business History on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and watch episodes on YouTube.

[Morgan]

Segregation in the day, integration at night. When segregation was the law, one mysterious black club owner had his own. We didn't worry about what went on outside. It was like stepping in another world. Inside Charlie's Place, black and white people danced together. But not everyone was happy about it. You saw the kkk. Yeah, they was dressed up in their uniform.

[Nav Green]

The KKK set out to raid Charlie, take him away from here.

[Scuba Steve]

Charlie was an example power they had to crush him.

[Morgan]

From Atlas Obscura, Rococo Punch and visit Myrtle beach comes Charlie's Place, a story that was nearly lost to time. Until now. Listen to Charlie's place on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. With VRBoCare. Help is always ready before, during, and after.

[Scuba Steve]

Plan for the plot twists, so support.

[Morgan]

Is always available because a great trip starts with peace of mind. We're gonna start off strong with our first comparison. Lowe's or Home Depot.

[Scuba Steve]

So as a kid, we were a Builder Square family. You ever heard of Builder Square?

[Morgan]

No.

[Scuba Steve]

So I don't know, I don't know where it. Maybe local, maybe maybe local, but it was a regional. Maybe it was. You never know where things. Things when you're a kid because you just know it from where you're at. But I felt like it was all over Florida and they closed down in the 90s. Builder's Square. We went to Builder Square and went to Scott's, which is another spot that isn't around anymore. And it was like a. A Scottish looking guy with a beard and like a fedora hat on top. And I remember we did not have these in Kansas. Okay, so this is maybe just more of a southern thing. Yeah, in the South Florida area. So we went to those a lot.

[Morgan]

And then were they like a Lowe's and Home Depot or were they more like an Ace Hardware?

[Scuba Steve]

Oh, you know what, from what I remember, it was like in between, they weren't as big as a Home Depot, but they weren't as small. Mom and Pop as an Ace. Okay, so they were like in the middle of it and they didn't last. So apparently they didn't do well or they got absorbed or bought out. I don't know the story behind it. Haven't taken the time to jump in that rabbit hole on the Internet. But between those two, I'd have to say, I know Home Depot, everyone loves it. And it's whatever, more saving, more doing, it's great. But I'm a Lowe's family.

[Morgan]

I'm the same. We finally found our common ground.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. And it's Blue. I like the color blue. My favorite color. And I just. I don't know. I just like Lowe's. Just. It seemed more inviting and clean and happier. I don't know. I just. I liked Lowe's.

[Morgan]

No, And I'm with you. But also, it was another one of those that I grew up on. That's where my dad went all the time. It's funny how. How much our childhood influences where we go. Just your choices.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

I mean, heck, even before moving to Nashville, I was like, there are no other choices. Those are.

[Scuba Steve]

That's it.

[Morgan]

You go to Walmart, you go to Lowe's, and. And that's where. And then you go home.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. Yeah. You go home here. You're done. Yeah.

[Morgan]

And have Costco. We had Sam's Club.

[Scuba Steve]

Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

[Morgan]

So, like, those are the. That's what you did. And then I come to Nashville. I'm like, there. Wait. I have choices. I can go to different places. What does that mean? Yeah, so I think. I think that's why. But, yeah, I still go to Lowe's. My fiance is a Home Depot guy, so it's kind of funny.

[Scuba Steve]

Okay, so you ever, like, have to, like, fight over it or you just. Or who wins or Lowe's closest to us?

[Morgan]

So Lowe's typically wins, but if we go somewhere and, like, Lowe's doesn't have it. Have a. Like, Home Depot would have had that.

[Scuba Steve]

The problem I've had with Home Depot lately is every time I've been there, I remember going there, like, 18 or 19. When I worked in landscaping. We'd have to go there a lot to pick up, because the company I worked for had a Home Depot credit card, so we had to go to Home Depot, but we pick up the sprinkler parts or whatever. But. And back then, you like, hey, where is the. Where's the screws? Or where's the bracket? D. Like, oh, let me. And they would take you to that aisle and show you. And then, like, here it is. Do you have any questions? And I was awesome. This is really cool. Now you go to Home Depot, and you ask somebody where something is. They all. Hold on one second. And they pull out their phone. I think it's on aisle seven. And then you. And then you're like, all right. And then the guy just stands there, and you're like, oh, so you're not gonna take me to aisle seven? Okay, so I'll go to aisle seven. I go to aisle seven, and guess what? They're not there. And now I'm. Now in aisle seven looking for something I can't find. And I'm looking for the other idiot to tell me where it's at and pull up the phone. And it's also not there either. It's like, take me to the frickin aisle, show me. Because if it's not there, then you can then take me to where you think. I don't know. It's just so frustrating.

[Morgan]

I think it's the same way at Lowe's though.

[Scuba Steve]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[Morgan]

I've had that same experience at Lowe's.

[Scuba Steve]

Or they just don't know anything is anymore.

[Morgan]

Yeah. I just don't think you have the same type of people that are employed as much anymore. When I get one of the older gentlemen.

[Scuba Steve]

Oh geez.

[Morgan]

Yeah, they're always very like helpful and stuff. But when you have one of the younger, I don't know that they are as equipped because it is everything on your phone versus knowledge. Before they had to know everything of everywhere in the store, things.

[Scuba Steve]

But you should still, like that's, that's part of like understanding where you work, that you should know where things are.

[Nav Green]

Yeah.

[Scuba Steve]

It shouldn't go away because technology is there and it, it took away your ability to remember things.

[Morgan]

Hey, I don't disagree with you.

[Scuba Steve]

Like when I was in my teens and twenties, I still worked as hard as the, the guy who had been there for 20, 30 years because I just had a little sense of pride in my work.

[Morgan]

I know, I know.

[Nav Green]

All right.

[Morgan]

I'm on the same path as you.

[Nav Green]

Okay.

[Scuba Steve]

All right.

[Morgan]

But you left a little nugget in there. You worked for a landscape company for a while?

[Scuba Steve]

Oh yeah, yeah. When I first got. Before I got. Before I got in the radio and how I got in the radio was because I was in the truck a lot listening to the radio. And I used to work, I ran a crew, a landscaping crew in Orlando. It was me and like five Guatemalans and we go out there every day and we cut grass and weed, eat and edge and do like big neighborhoods. My route was mostly like the really nice houses and like Winter Park, Windermere, because I actually gave a crap about my job. And so he gave me like the high dollar clients.

[Morgan]

Nice.

[Scuba Steve]

Because I took care of them and like went above and beyond. And he always got great feedb and so he kept giving me more of the high dollar clients, which was great because in the holidays they usually would tip.

[Morgan]

Okay. I was gonna say, did they tip you normally or just during the holidays?

[Scuba Steve]

I didn't get a lot of tips. Throughout the year, but mostly like the holidays I would get from. Not everyone, though, not everyone was generous to tip, but there were a decent amount where they'd be like, hey, here's a hundred bucks. And it always would split it with me and the guys, hey, let's go out to lunch and like, let's go hard. Let's get whatever we want at lunch. Because a hundred bucks went pretty far, you know, 20, 30 years ago. So yeah, I did that, ran the crew and then, so then every once in a while we had like big company, like big neighborhoods too, and we'd all, all the whole company would go like tag team of a hundred house, neighborhood and do all that. Or do we do installs and landscape design, sprinkler systems, all that kind of stuff.

[Morgan]

Nice.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, I did that for a few years.

[Morgan]

Do you like doing it at your house now?

[Scuba Steve]

No.

[Morgan]

Yeah. You like, know what all goes into it?

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I mean I, I do do it and I did do it for a long time of doing my own lawn, but man, it's alive. Like almost four acres. So it's more than just like a zero lot line edge, weedy blow and get out of there kind of scenario.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Scuba Steve]

But I do, I do like take pride in trimming my hedges and stuff because no one can do it as good as I can.

[Morgan]

Oh, okay. Do you have one of those automatic.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. Gas powered one. Yeah. Where it has the, the clipper. Yeah, yeah.

[Morgan]

I love watching those videos online. They're so satisfying.

[Scuba Steve]

Clean them up. Yeah, yeah.

[Morgan]

Well, I like like yard videos in general. There's actually a guy from Witch who has a massive account who goes around and just mows and cleans up yards for free.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, I've seen that before. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Morgan]

He's like S.B. mowing. Yeah, something like that. And he. I love watching his videos. I'll just sit there and watch him clean up a whole yard and before I know it, I'm, I'm like 10 lawn videos deep. I'm like, that was pretty cool. I don't know why Pretty cool.

[Scuba Steve]

And I'm not gonna do my lawn because. Do you cut your grass or anything?

[Morgan]

I did.

[Scuba Steve]

Oh, you did. Okay.

[Morgan]

And then I met my fiance and within like a few weeks I was like, you can take that over if you want.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, if you want. Which means you will.

[Morgan]

And he did. He was actually really excited. He loves plants, he loves all of that. Like, he loves being outside and doing things outside with his hands. So I was like, perfect, this is great. I'll Happily pass that over to you.

[Scuba Steve]

Yes. Okay.

[Morgan]

I did love mowing though. I felt really satisfied after I'd get done. I hated how I felt before, like the lead up of I have to do this.

[Scuba Steve]

Yes.

[Morgan]

And I don't. But then while I was doing and after, I loved it.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. Cause you can see the. If you watch those videos. Videos. Obviously you like the. The progress of, like seeing one side of it all disheveled and the other side with the nice lines and it's like short and looks really good. Okay. Motivation. Let's keep going.

[Morgan]

It was really funny because my family group chat. My dad and brother in law would always send their yards. And in Kansas you get a little bit more grass and we get here near the city in Nashville, so they would have these really pretty, like yards where they had all their lines and they did all the things.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

But I'd also always send my pictures in my yard and be like, here's mine. I did it too. Have my pretty lines, but it'd be like this, you know, 4x4 area.

[Scuba Steve]

Like that's. It took you what, 10 minutes to do that? He's like, we're still mowing ours right now.

[Morgan]

It's so true. But what's crazy is it takes my dad an hour. It takes me an hour also.

[Scuba Steve]

Really? Okay.

[Morgan]

I just. I got little arms, you know, and like that weed eater just really is huge compared to. It's bigger than me.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. Yeah. And it vibrates a lot. So like after a while your hands.

[Morgan]

Start to get jello. Like the first several times I did it, my arms would be jello.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. I hate weed eating. I would always have magna. There's a guy, my crew named Magno and he for some reason, like, love the weed eat. And I hated it because it was. You had always replaced the string and it was always vibrating and jiggling and hurting and crap was always spatting in your eyes. So I'd always love to just. My favorite was the hedges and edging. Oh, man, I loved edging up against the concrete or edging beds and like having that nice line. Oh, it just looks so good.

[Morgan]

See, it's something about the lines.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

I don't know why it's like the.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, it's the. The satisfaction of it looking clean and like, I don't know, just put together.

[Morgan]

Yes. And that was why it took me about two years. And then I realized that they had the automatic feeder where you could just put a string in and press a button and it does it.

[Scuba Steve]

But eventually, like, if we're doing commercial, so we're doing a lot. Eventually. Like, it constantly keeps going, you know, but. Yes. Yeah. If you're doing it, you're a small yard. That string could last forever.

[Morgan]

No, because you'd see me in the. When I didn't know this thing existed. You'd see me sitting in the driveway, and I'd be trying to put something together. I don't know how many YouTube videos I watch trying to figure out that string.

[Scuba Steve]

Yes.

[Morgan]

Oh, my gosh. I also had enough guys stop. That were driving by, was like, do you need help? And I'm like, I'm fine.

[Scuba Steve]

I don't need your help.

[Morgan]

I will figure this out.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, I do need your help, but I don't want your help.

[Morgan]

Exactly. I was more frustrated that they asked.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And I was frustrated. The stupid thing. I hated those.

[Scuba Steve]

But once you get it working, it's great because then you all have to do is just pop it and hit the ground and then it pops out. But it's a pain in the ass to get it going. Yeah, it really is.

[Morgan]

I don't know how we walked down that, but I liked it.

[Scuba Steve]

You asked. Oh, talking about landscaping.

[Morgan]

Yeah, landscaping.

[Scuba Steve]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Morgan]

Do you ever, like. This is a funny thing for me because I worked at Buffalo Wild Wings for five years or so.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

When that was like, my first job, and I just worked my way out. But now, either when I pass a buffalo or I go out to eat or anything like that, and I see people doing expo or takeout, I just have a lot of experiences where I'm like, oh, that's not how I would have done that. Or that's a weird way. Like, do you have those moments of that with landscaping?

[Scuba Steve]

Oh, my God. Yeah. When we lived in la, we had an hoa, so they took care of the grounds. We didn't have a lot of grass because it was like a bunch of townhomes, but there was. Were bushes to trim. And that's my specialty. And I would get so angry. I love trimming bushes. And I also. It's something about the satisfaction of trimming up a palm tree or a Robolini and, like, having that nice fountain look and cutting off all the dead fronds and just making it look nice and clean.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Scuba Steve]

And. And it was so frustrating because we paid money into the hoa, and the only thing really that the money was going towards was the landscaping because there wasn't a lot of maintenance in our. Our grounds in this place. So the majority of went to landscaping, and it was A scam, because the guys would come out there and all they would ever do is just pull out the blowers and just blow things off and never trim the bushes. And it was so frustrating because you walk around and everything looks like. Looks like an overgrown abandoned neighborhood. And so I got so annoyed one day that I went out and bought because I didn't have it at the time, because we're living in a townhome. I went and frickin went to Lowe's and I bought a hedge trimmer and I started trimming my own hedges because they kept getting overgrown. They were looking all crap. Crappy. And because they weren't maintaining them and growing them because they're relative. They were. It was a new space, so new plants and they need to be trimmed and kept so that way they can grow thick and grow in together. I was. This is annoying. It's been a year. They never cut these damn bushes. They're overgrown now. It's growing up against my house, which is going to create problems for leaks and that kinds of stuff and, and holding water and moisture. And I was like, I'm going to trim my own damn hedges. So then it started with me just trimming my own hedges. And then it morphed into me trimming my hedges and my neighbor's hedges because then his were getting long and growing over our walkway and looking like crap. And then it ended up being. I ended up trimming our entire street. And then it became a. I'm gonna do it on the day they come. And so I was out there trimming the hedges and they're like, hey, what are you doing? I was like, I'm doing what you're not doing, trimming the hedges.

[Morgan]

Wait, did you ever get in trouble by the hoa?

[Scuba Steve]

No, because I was doing. I was doing what needed to be done.

[Morgan]

I know, but sometimes HOAs are.

[Scuba Steve]

They're very weird.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Scuba Steve]

They could be, like, pissed. But I was like, you're. We're paying for something and they're not doing the job, so they're not going to do it. I'm going to do. Do it.

[Morgan]

Did they start paying or did they start having people do it?

[Scuba Steve]

No, they would. They would do it, but it'd be one of those things where it's like, they did it and then a month would go by and they stopped doing it and then become a problem again. So I was like, this is ridiculous. This is.

[Morgan]

Yeah, see, that's a crap thing about hoas.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

The cool thing about when I bought my house in Nashville, The. There was no HOA as far as the neighborhood. Yeah, but there was an HOA between me and the house next door. So I'm the president of our HOA and she's the secretary.

[Scuba Steve]

So you know what to do then.

[Morgan]

It's more like just a protection thing. Like, we just have to check with each other before doing something if we're like, it's going to impact somebody else, but both of us are friends and whatever, we don't really care. Yeah, but it's funny. I'm like, I'm the president of our hoa, but it's literally just our house. Like, it's our little strip of house.

[Scuba Steve]

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Morgan]

But HOA suck.

[Scuba Steve]

They do. And then you spend that money, and then we get mad about dumb crap, and you're like, wait a second. You're mad about the way I put my Christmas lights up, which looks nice, but, you know, you don't care about the fact that we pay money for a landscaping service and they don't do anything. It doesn't bother you. Like, it was so dumb. Or I parked my car in front of my. In front of my house just for a second to unload before I went to go park on the street parking. And they would. I would come back 10 minutes later, there'd be a sticker in my car or a note saying, hey, you're not supposed to park here. And so I knew the person was on my street or somewhere close enough by to do that. And I'm like, listen here, woman. Karen. Like, I know who you are. Like, so you're mad about this, but you're not mad about the way this place looks like. And you can control that by telling the landscaping company. Yes. Tell them to do their job, and if they don't, hire another one that will or pay me to do it.

[Morgan]

It's so true, though. Like, are. They're a special kind of something.

[Scuba Steve]

It's a scam.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Scuba Steve]

Such a scam.

[Morgan]

Most things are. You know, they usually have gotten older. I've really realized that most things are a scam. Like, we're worried about the people that are calling us trying to scam us. Not everything else is a scam.

[Scuba Steve]

Not really is. And like. Like all these apps. It's a scam. We basically have gone back to cable, and now it costs more than cable.

[Morgan]

Oh, my gosh. Don't get me started on that, because if my one of the prices rise one more time, I'm about to quit all of it.

[Scuba Steve]

Y. Yeah.

[Morgan]

And just be like, I'll I'll see you guys in the next century or something.

[Scuba Steve]

The whole point of doing these was because it was a stick it to the man Fu cable, and now we're going to do it in a more affordable way and give you access to everything whenever you want it. And now it's greed has taken over, like always. And now we're spending more money than it would have cost to have freaking cable. It's so stupid.

[Morgan]

It is.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Don't get me started on that. Because also insurance. Also, like, somebody had told me that you could get. Get money back because we went and stayed at a hotel when our power was out and was like, oh, home insurance should cover that. Yeah, yeah. Well, I called. They don't cover power outages. What I'm like, if you're not supposed to cover, like, they're like, well, it was still habitable, so you could stay there and you could get heat source from somewhere else. And I'm just like, have you ever stayed in a home that's 35 degrees and you want to tell me it's.

[Scuba Steve]

Habitable for a week?

[Morgan]

Yeah, like, don't know. So I didn't end up fighting that battle too hard because I was just. I was so annoyed that I pay for insurance. For what reason?

[Scuba Steve]

Oh, yeah, that happened to us in Florida during the hurricanes. And it was like we paid. My mom paid insurance, home insurance for like 20, 30 years and never took a claim. And then the first time we took a claim, it was like something to do with the roof, like a couple shingles missing and a little bit of leakage from the front door. And then they went around, several companies went around and canceled people's policies and left the state of Florida because they had to finally pay out. It's like they've. You've collected billions of dollars all these years and then weren't having to pay out. And then the one time you have to pay out, which, by the way, that's the point of insurance, is to eventually pay out at some point. So the one time you had to really pay out, they're like, oh, we're not. We're not. We're actually canceling and we're leaving Florida. You're like, that is so messed up. And for a while, a lot of them are gone and no one controlled it. No one, no one fought them. You couldn't fight them. The government didn't step in and the insurance companies won. I'm like, that's such a fricking scam. What? A scam to pay into a system. And then when you ask for it back, at some point, you can't get anything back out of it. Like what? That's the whole point of insurance.

[Morgan]

Yeah. And then you walk down the line of you have car insurance, homeowners insurance, and health insurance and you scam.

[Scuba Steve]

Scam. It's a frigging scam to.

[Morgan]

Being an adult is hard, you know, it really is. You learn a lot about the world. It makes you kind of sad.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, man. Scams and greed, it's whatever it comes down to. Down to.

[Morgan]

This is why we were going as children during this podcast. I was going back to some young days to give us some hope. But nope, it's okay. We're gonna take a break. We'll be right back. Speaking of our families, we're gonna get off of our scam topics because I think we could talk about that already. They're there. Were you guys a water only family or a pop and apps family?

[Scuba Steve]

Pop and apps, yeah.

[Morgan]

Like when you'd go out to eat, would you get water only? You get your meal, you'd go home. Or would you be able to order soda? We call it pop.

[Scuba Steve]

Okay.

[Morgan]

Or appetizers. And then you'd have your meal. Like, what kind of family were you? Because it's kind of the Internet has divided us into two people.

[Scuba Steve]

Well, we didn't go out much, but when we did, it was. I feel like it was like once a quarter and it was like it was the whole deal. Like we were going to Olive Garden or we were going to Chili's or somewhere. And it was the whole thing. It was like we're all getting sodas, we're all getting an appetizer or two and then ordering the meal and sitting there for a while, maybe get dessert, get to go and go home. Like it was. It was a full. We were taking advantage of that time slot and eating it up as long as we could and doing everything because we weren't going to be there again for another three or four months.

[Morgan]

Yeah. So, yeah, it's like a luxury that.

[Scuba Steve]

You have major luxury. And. And now. And now. Which is funny because now we can afford it and go to places. And now we're just more kind of like a water and food and we're out. We don't really do advertisers and we also don't eat as much too. I feel like when you go out.

[Morgan]

With your wife, though, are you a water only? Are you more apt?

[Scuba Steve]

We're everything. Okay. We dive back into. When it was like going out with my papa. And we did like. We like. It's like, okay, we're going out. We don't. We only go out once a month. Same kind of mindset. So let's. We're ordering drinks. We're ordering soda and water and appetizers and. And entrees and desserts. Like we were stuffing our faces because we're not gonna be back again for another month.

[Morgan]

Isn't that funny? Yeah, but with your kids, it's water only kids.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, it's like that. Water, food, and get the hell out of there as fast as possible.

[Morgan]

I was gonna say, is it more, though, because. Because of how young they are right now. And maybe at some point that might not be the case.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, they're ticking time bombs. You only have a certain window of them being good and patient, and then eventually you gotta get the hell out because then everyone's, like, looking at you and. And we're not. I mean, everyone does their own parenting, but we're not one of those families where it's like, shove a phone in front of their face so that way we can have a dinner. It's like, are our kids. This is how kids act. This is how kids are gonna be. And sorry, but they're not, like, running all up and down and, like, bothering people. But they're. You know, they're. They're. They're bothering us.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Scuba Steve]

We're having to constantly, like, go between three kids. But I'd rather them be kids and eventually acclimate to going out and doing things than to be a zombie and just being thrown something to get him to shut up. And then it's. For me, it's frustrating and annoying because then if I'm sitting down eating and trying to enjoy my dinner, I got some asshole or some. I got some guy next to me with his kid on an iPad and it's blaring on full blast. And how is everyone numb to that volume? And I'm over here trying to enjoy my dinner, and I'm hearing them listen to Bluey or Ms. Rachel, and I don't want to hear that. Turn it down or turn it off. Just parent your kids for a little bit. They're going to get rambunctious and crazy and they're like, oh, I don't have to deal with it. Deal with it. You had kids.

[Morgan]

It's a hot take. I like it, though.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, turn the damn phone off. It's also disrespectful. I come from a military family, and in my household growing up, it Was the whole, like, no hats at the table. You know, use your manners. No one's watching TV or anything. It's like you're fixated on the moment of the meal. And so, like, if my grandfather were alive and saw people with phones at the dinner table, he would lose his mind. And he would tell you. He would tell you, you're an awful parent. You just watch those damn kids. Quit having the technology. Watch your kids. And they'll give excuses. And he's like, you can give me all excuses in the world you want. And that's why you are who you are, because you're full of excuses. And I'm like, damn. All right.

[Morgan]

Grandpa came out hard.

[Nav Green]

He did.

[Scuba Steve]

If we were crying, he be like, I'll give you something to cry about. And he reached for the bell right up. We're fine. No, we're good. We're good.

[Morgan]

And he was in the military.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, he was a military guy. Yeah. So he came from an upbringing of just kind of, like, respect, discipline, and being kind to others. But also, you know, he was kind, but he was not afraid to. To speak his mind, because in his mind, he was the way what he thought was how society should act. Be decent, be kind, be respectful, be present, be in the moment. And in a world of phones, I know he would be like, this is stupid. Put your phone down. You're here for 30 minutes to an hour. Just know, don't be involved in that for a moment.

[Morgan]

Why can't you? Also, I mean, one of my favorite things as a kid when we went to restaurants was to play on the color things that they'd give us. Like, I loved those coloring.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. My kids do that. They get the we always ask for the kids menu, and they spend the first 10 minutes coloring. We guys, we play tic tac toe. That's how we occupy our time. Versus just shoving the phone in front of their face and ignoring them and then doing whatever it is you're doing. But the coloring is amazing. We do that constantly, and then it's entertaining them, and it's fun for the parents.

[Morgan]

I feel like my parents were always, like, involved with us when we were doing it. They were helping us.

[Scuba Steve]

Word search.

[Morgan]

Yeah. Do the word search of the puzzle or whatever was on there.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I mean, again, I don't want to, like, tell people what to do, but maybe open your mind a little bit, and maybe you're one of those parents that gives the kid the phone and just to shut them up. Up. And it's easy. Yeah. It is easier, but then it also then becomes a problem of you've now trained your kids to always want the phone and that's also difficult to rip from them. But I, I think it's worth giving it a shot and kind of taking things back to the 90s and doing the coloring and watching them and yeah, it's stressful, but that's part of being a parent, you know, it's a little bit stressful, it's chaotic. But you will fast forward 10 years from now and you're gonna be like, crap. I wish I would have been a little more involved or and like hung out my kids versus just shoving technology in their face.

[Morgan]

Well, and honestly, as a server, it was always fun when I got the tables where the kids were really interactive and I gotta have fun with them and bring em ice cream because they were excited and they were engaging with the conversation and I had plenty of tables that also they were giving them tablets and they were sitting there. You had. I had a mix of everything. Yeah, right. But I always loved the tables where the kids were involved. It was fun for me. And I know there's probably a lot of people out there that are servers that, that don't feel that way, but that's part of it. The whole point of being a server is to interact with people and you get to engage with kids and kids sometimes are the best part about the job. You know what I mean?

[Scuba Steve]

Like fun, right?

[Morgan]

Yeah, they're the fun. Those in regulars, those are typically your two fun moments or highlights of a day.

[Scuba Steve]

So. And I hate going to restaurants now. And they have that damn tablet on the table. Like you go to Olive Garden or whatever games. Yes. And so they'll walk in like, oh, can we play with that? And I go, nope. And I'll take it and I'll put it on the table next to us or I'll flip it upside down. And then when the server comes, they're like, oh, you can order. I'm like, no, I'm ordering with you. You're the server. I'm not ordering on a frickin tablet. You're here. I don't say these things.

[Morgan]

So then you probably hate it when it was the QR codes because oh.

[Scuba Steve]

My God, I can't stand it. I couldn't stand the QR codes.

[Morgan]

Those are pretty brutal. I don't mind the tablets as much because at least it's like a screen for it to order on. But the QR codes were pretty brutal.

[Scuba Steve]

That was brutal. Yeah, because then you're on your phone and looking at your phone and. And then. I don't know, it's a whole thing. Thing. But I hate the tablets. And then I'll put them on another table and then they still have to pay on them, which is fine. You can pay on that, like a register. But the kids are not playing on that, by the way. They're not touching it. It's gross. Everyone's touched. It's disgusting. And no, we used to have.

[Morgan]

There was a restaurant we used to go to called Players growing up.

[Scuba Steve]

Okay.

[Morgan]

And it was really funny because in each booth you had a teeny tiny TV. Do you remember the TVs that had the back. Obviously they weren't flat screen screens, but also that were just so little and they were like the size of your head kind of was there. Each booth had them. And we got so excited to go to that place because we didn't care what was on tv. It was just. We thought it was really cool and novel that you can have this little screen at your table. And now I think about now and how excited we were about that.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. And now there's, like, TV shows.

[Morgan]

They were playing, like, sports. Sports games were on it. It was like a sports bar.

[Scuba Steve]

Okay. So your personal TV of whatever's on.

[Morgan]

Yeah. And you'd get to watch it, but it was just this teeny, tiny TV that was there, there. And we loved going. I. But I didn't really watch sports. So, like, I was just excited that it was like a cool thing that not a lot of restaurants had.

[Scuba Steve]

Would have. Yeah. Because it's unique and different. Yeah.

[Morgan]

But now I think about all the restaurants now, and all of them have them that just like, gave me a flashback of, like, this is obviously, we're in the future.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. The evolution of it.

[Morgan]

Yeah. But back then I was so excited. There was this one restaurant that had. You had your own individual little TVs, and it was in the wall.

[Scuba Steve]

It's cool.

[Morgan]

And it was like.

[Scuba Steve]

This is so wild and so futuristic.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Scuba Steve]

But even, like, one thing that I missed, though. Remember, you know Johnny Rockets? They have the jukebox thing at your table.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Scuba Steve]

You can't. You can't do it anymore. It's just. It's a dummy. It just sits there.

[Morgan]

Does that actually work?

[Scuba Steve]

No. I went, though. I used to go to them, like back in 2001, two or whatever, when they were newish in my area. You used to, like, they would give you quarters or nickels, whatever it was. And you'd pick songs and you got to Play the songs off that thing now. I went to one a couple years ago at the Aubrey Mills Mall, and I was sitting down. My son's like, oh, what is that? Oh. I was like, oh, it's a jukebox. Hold on. I have some change. Change. Oh, let me get some from the server. I was like, hey, do you have, like, a. I have a dollar. Can I have some quarters or a nickel, whatever it is? She's, oh, that doesn't work anymore. I was like, oh, why? And she's like, oh. And then I was just like, okay, I don't want to hear it. Yeah.

[Morgan]

They took it away.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. Why, though? It was so much fun.

[Morgan]

I don't know. I don't know that it was. I know what you're talking about.

[Scuba Steve]

You have to pick the music. It was interact. And then you, like, waited around for your song. Oh, my God, there's my song. I picked it.

[Morgan]

Yep.

[Scuba Steve]

That's so cool.

[Morgan]

Yeah. Yeah. Johnny Rockets was good, too.

[Scuba Steve]

Hell, yeah, it was. Yeah.

[Morgan]

Well, we were. I mean, on your flip side, we were mostly an apps and pop family.

[Scuba Steve]

Okay.

[Morgan]

But that's also, like, you said, like, we'd eat fast food a lot. I had so many Happy Meals growing up.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

That was my. That was what? We had Happy Meals. Sometimes we go and eat Wendy's. This was back before I was a vegetarian. I'd get chicken nuggets from Wendy's all the time. Yeah, I loved that.

[Scuba Steve]

Did your mom ever chase the beanie babies at McDonald's when those came out?

[Morgan]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, in our storage room, we got Happy Meal toys, we got Beanie Babies, and we got. What was the other one? There's one other thing that we collected from, like, our fast food thing.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And we have bins of them.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. It's like my mom, she kept them all. Why would you keep these? I remember ever at the Christmas time, they'd always do boy or girl. Yeah. How many boys or girls you got in the car? Y. We got two boys and two girls. All right, cool. So there'd be, like, two Hot Wheels and two Barbies.

[Morgan]

Yep.

[Scuba Steve]

That was, like, a thing.

[Morgan]

We have those, too.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. Those were so much fun.

[Morgan]

Yep. There's still bins of them. They're still in the storage room.

[Scuba Steve]

That's crazy.

[Morgan]

Yeah. I. Wild. So we spent a lot of time going to those growing up, too. And Wichita, Kansas, when I grew up, like, the. We had Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, Olive Garden, and Applebee's and then a few, like, local restaurants.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

It wasn't really until I got to middle school, high school, where they really started adding different restaurants and different things. So, like, we. We had our few that we went to, but, man, those few that we went to when we. When we could go, we would go, and we'd have pop, and we'd have appetizers, and I'd always get dessert because I was a dessert girl.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. I love dessert.

[Morgan]

I used to even. I would eat dessert first when we go to Applebee's.

[Scuba Steve]

Oh, really?

[Morgan]

I would get dessert first. It became my thing.

[Scuba Steve]

Okay.

[Morgan]

Because I would always be full by the time dessert came, and I didn't want to be full because dessert is what I wanted.

[Scuba Steve]

So he didn't care about your meal?

[Morgan]

No.

[Scuba Steve]

So you're full for your meal.

[Morgan]

Exactly.

[Scuba Steve]

But not for dessert.

[Morgan]

Dessert always came first.

[Scuba Steve]

Remember when Taco Bell used to sell choco tacos?

[Morgan]

Oh, yes, I do.

[Scuba Steve]

What the hell? Why would you ever remove an item that was so good?

[Morgan]

I don't know.

[Scuba Steve]

I don't understand that.

[Morgan]

I don't know why they haven't brought that back either. They've brought back the Mexican pizza and a lot of their 90s.

[Scuba Steve]

Like, come on, guys.

[Morgan]

That one does shock me. They haven't brought that back.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, I do love.

[Morgan]

I still love the cinnamon twists.

[Scuba Steve]

Yes. Cinnamon twists are amazing. Those are really good.

[Morgan]

They were. There was a song when I. When I. When I went to cheer competition. Don't ask me why, but there was, like, a chant we learned that was like, guacamole, cinnamon twists. And now it's in my head, and it's literally from a cheer competition.

[Scuba Steve]

I've never. I didn't cheer, though, so.

[Morgan]

Right. But, like, it was about Taco Bell.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Morgan]

And it was at a cheer competition.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Or maybe a cheer camp. I don't know. But so now every time. Time I go to Taco Bell, I'm like, guacamole, cinnamon twist.

[Scuba Steve]

And they're like, yeah, okay, lady, what else do you want?

[Morgan]

I do it in the car. Don't worry.

[Scuba Steve]

Do you want any food or not?

[Morgan]

No, just guacamole, cinnamon twist. And I think there's even more to it. But, yeah, this. It was weird. I've just had, like, a weird thing where I've been remembering a whole lot of stuff. Maybe that means my memory is, like, getting sharper again.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, well, it's like, remember, I'm like, bubblegum, bubblegum, dish, dish. How many pieces do you wish? And you're like, ah, three. And you go, one, two, three. And then it hit you and it split two and then bubblegum. Bubblegum dish. And then if you basically went from the fists together to two fists and then down to one fist, and then if you got knocked again, then you were out and it was a whole thing going around the room. Remember that?

[Morgan]

Thank you for bringing that back in my brain.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

I didn't realize I knew that, but yes, I do.

[Scuba Steve]

Oh, yeah. And mash, mansion, apartment, studio, or house they picked. Like, who would you marry and what. What would you have? You go through things.

[Morgan]

I was going to marry Brad Pitt a lot. A lot. And I was going to live in a shack with him a lot of the time. Then there was the. Did you ever have the. Down by the banks of the hanky panky where the bullfrog. Okay, so.

[Scuba Steve]

Oh, you. Your mama's falls in and so do you.

[Morgan]

Okay, so everybody's is different. I did a video on this a while back because it was going viral and I was like, oh, I need to share mine. So this is how mine went.

[Scuba Steve]

Okay.

[Morgan]

Down by the banks of the hanky panky where the bullfrog jumps from bank to Banky, where the EEPs, IPS, OOPS, OPS and a hay flipper dilliana kerplop.

[Scuba Steve]

Well, I've never heard that one right. Ever.

[Morgan]

Right, Ever. And apparently all these different regions had different ones.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So what's yours?

[Scuba Steve]

So mine was down by the hams and the hanky panky with a bullfrogs jump. And then I think it was A, E, I, O, U. Your mother smells and so do you.

[Morgan]

That's funny.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, that was our E, I, O, U. Your mother smells and so do you. But we came from, like, an era where everyone was, like, dissing everyone. Like, it was like Florida was a mixture of, like, New Yorkers coming down and then transplanting because they like, they're like, oh, Disney's awesome. You mean we could live here and not be in that cold weather in the snow and go to the theme parks? So, like, we had like, a lot of hard hardcore kids that were like. Like this or like dissing was like, big in our area.

[Morgan]

Wasn't that show on MTV also at the time, the. Your mom battles.

[Scuba Steve]

Oh yo mama.

[Morgan]

Like, it was like rap battles. But most of it was like, your mom jokes.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. Yeah. I think it was even called your mama or. Or MTV Yo Raps was a. Tv, was a show. But then there was a. It was the battles with, like, Nick Cannon and all that.

[Morgan]

Yes, that's what I was.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Morgan]

I just remember a Lot of them.

[Scuba Steve]

I mean, you're wild now. Yes.

[Morgan]

That's what it was called.

[Scuba Steve]

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Morgan]

But, yeah, that's funny. Isn't that funny about down by the Banks?

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. I didn't realize there was different versions of that.

[Morgan]

I really thought, like, I was like, mine's the only one. I know this. And then there was. Everybody came out of the woodwork having different ones.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. I never heard of yours ever.

[Morgan]

Right.

[Scuba Steve]

You were. You were going. And I was like, what language is she speaking right now?

[Morgan]

I know. Did you ever do the cat's cradle thing, too? The.

[Scuba Steve]

The cat's in the cradle and a silver spoon and little bow.

[Morgan]

That's a song. But no, there was. It was like the strings. Strings?

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, like Eiffel Tower. Put your. Put your hand in here, you put it in there, and boom. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. We did that all the time. That was, like, really big in elementary school.

[Morgan]

What were those called?

[Scuba Steve]

I don't know. Because they just gave us a piece of yarn, like in third or fourth grade, and you, like, put it with your hands and do all kinds of stuff and make a spider web. Put it in there, and.

[Morgan]

Oh.

[Scuba Steve]

And it would come out. You're like, whoa. How'd you do that?

[Morgan]

So cool.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. It was so much fun.

[Morgan]

Did you guys also have cups at school where you did the stacking cups?

[Scuba Steve]

No, we didn't do the cups.

[Morgan]

That became a thing. I think it was, like, my freshman year, maybe eighth or eighth year, but. But they're stacking competitions of cups.

[Scuba Steve]

Oh. Cause that whole cup song.

[Morgan]

No, this was before Cups.

[Scuba Steve]

Okay.

[Morgan]

Like, this was like a. There was people who would nationally compete in stacking competitions.

[Scuba Steve]

Wow. Oh, my God.

[Morgan]

This is a sport for, like, a hot minute. I don't know when what time frame that was, but you had, like, it was like, four cups on the bottom three, you'd make a pyramid, and you'd have to stack them the fastest, and you'd have to restack them, and you would buy. Like, you'd have your own stack of cups that you'd bring.

[Scuba Steve]

Really? This is the thing. I never heard of this.

[Morgan]

You've never heard of this?

[Scuba Steve]

What grade were you you in?

[Morgan]

Gosh. I want to say maybe it was when I was in middle school.

[Scuba Steve]

Okay. So I was already probably like, like an adult at that point.

[Morgan]

Yeah. Let me bring up a stacking cup challenge because. And I even, like, pitches for the show because I wanted us to have a stacking cup challenges. I thought it'd be fun. But this is what Used to be I'm showing Scuba on the Internet because this used to be so popular.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. We didn't stack cups.

[Morgan]

You then like they would glow in the dark. You get different colors. You could have like your own. It was like a basketball, but like you had stacking cups.

[Scuba Steve]

I think at that age we had. We had cups but we were playing like beer pong.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Well, we played beer pong too, but this is like a different grade.

[Scuba Steve]

You're playing beer pong in eighth grade?

[Morgan]

Yes, I was. I lived in Kansas.

[Scuba Steve]

You guys were bored?

[Morgan]

Yeah, we didn't have a lot going on. Okay. So like they even decorated because he had decorate and it was like you would time it.

[Scuba Steve]

Oh, wow. So like these people are stacking them fast and unstacking them and re. Stacking them and putting them in things.

[Morgan]

Yeah, you put them in different periods and you have to go the fastest. Like the whole point is to be the fastest, fastest. And there's different levels.

[Scuba Steve]

Holy crap. This guy is like moving those cups so fast. Yeah, we did. And he. It's like he has his own like a basketball. You said like he has his own football or basketball or his whole like baseball setup with his bat and his glove and everything. Yeah, we didn't have that at all. I don't even know what that is.

[Morgan]

That's funny. I wonder if it was also a regional thing. I swear people are competing nationally. Like there'd be people going to these competitions.

[Scuba Steve]

Damn. Okay. Never heard of it.

[Morgan]

Stacking cups.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

I bet I could find them at my parents house somewhere.

[Scuba Steve]

Like your, your original set. Yeah.

[Morgan]

That glue in the dark. Yeah. They were like a white, like the lime green kind of color. Because then at night they'd be like bright yellow.

[Scuba Steve]

Okay.

[Morgan]

Or like when it was dark, you know?

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. That color, whatever color that was neon, yellowish.

[Morgan]

And I think my sister had a pink one. A hot pink one.

[Scuba Steve]

Okay.

[Morgan]

This is a thing for several years.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. You guys were bored.

[Morgan]

Okay. You know, we found ways to entertain ourselves.

[Scuba Steve]

I just messing.

[Morgan]

It's not wrong. All right, well, Scuba, thanks for joining me and hanging out.

[Scuba Steve]

Thanks for having me.

[Morgan]

It's fun walking down memory lane with you.

[Scuba Steve]

It was. Yeah, it was a great time.

[Morgan]

Are you happy with our. How our child questions?

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Panned out.

[Scuba Steve]

That was good. Yeah. Yeah.

[Morgan]

I just really let us go whatever, wherever the wind took us.

[Scuba Steve]

I like how they had a whole thing set up. We did it for a little bit and then it became a comparison for a little bit.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Scuba Steve]

And it was like. I liked it. It was Good.

[Morgan]

Yeah. We got bounce around. That's how we got to start being more inquisitive in life.

[Scuba Steve]

Exactly. The bounce is ball.

[Morgan]

Be a little ping pong ball. Tell people where they can find you.

[Scuba Steve]

You can find me on Instagram and reluctantly on Tik Tok, which you're doing great on there. Yeah. But the thing I've noticed about Tick Tock, though, is people are, like, all butthurt about it now, and they're like, I'm not doing Tick Tock anymore. I've deleted my app. Because. Because, like, the US Owns it now, or owns a portion of it.

[Morgan]

The US does own it. And there was a period of transition where when the US Owned it, it was just kind of a dumpster fire. A lot. Like when there was a transition from Twitter to Fit X. Yeah. X still is quite a dumpster fire. So I'm hop. Sorry. I basically died there.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, I know. I saw you.

[Morgan]

I had a moment. I was like, it was not happening. Not well. I smoke about cigarettes. Listen, that cold air just doesn't work with my lungs.

[Scuba Steve]

I hate it, too. And my skin, it dries all up, all the things.

[Morgan]

What was I saying? I was talking about Tik Tok.

[Scuba Steve]

Tik Tok and how it's transformed.

[Morgan]

Yes.

[Scuba Steve]

Is this recent? Like. Like within the last couple weeks or so?

[Morgan]

Yeah. Yeah. So they transitioned ownership in the last. Last. I want to say it was like the last month.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And within that, you've seen people, like, complain online about having zero views and nobody's seeing their stuff. I think a lot of what happens when transition and algorithm happens, it's like the transition of ownership.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

The algorithm changes and they decide whoever the new ownership is, is like, I want to do it my way. And they change everything. Yeah, Kind of the whole thing. So I don't know if that's what's happening with TikTok right now.

[Scuba Steve]

Okay.

[Morgan]

We don't know, like, a whole lot about who bought it. We just know that it got.

[Scuba Steve]

Got.

[Morgan]

It has American ties now.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Whatever that means. So I think it'll be interesting to see over the next six months what actually transpires. But people are still on it. You have a lot of people who leave apps. There's a lot of people who left Instagram when it was making all of its changes. And then people still go back. So still do it. But it'll be. It'll be interesting to see if TikTok holds its same value now that the US owns it, because the algorithm's different. It's going to Be a different, different company that owns it. Much like what we saw happen with Twitter.

[Scuba Steve]

So they don't. You can't buy the algorithm. They don't sell that. They just sell you the rights to the name of what it is. Because I remember for a while there they're like, we're getting rid of Tick Tock. It's going away completely.

[Nav Green]

Yeah.

[Scuba Steve]

And then they're. And then they were like, no, we're not. We love Tick Tock. It's like, what do you want to do with this thing? Or you want it or you don't want it. And then now they do want it and they got in well.

[Morgan]

And that's what's hard is we don't quite know what they bought. Right. Like, did they just buy. So our data is in, in the US now, did they buy multiple shares that allow them to have impact over the algorithm? Did they buy what our geolocations can be like? We don't really know. At least I haven't done like a deep dive to find out what that all was. I haven't seen a lot of stories on it yet either. It was more just like us. TikTok good is kind of like what I saw. And then everybody experienced a lot of things with the app. So it'll be interesting. Interesting. It'll be interesting to see what happens over the next year or so and if it really changes or if it just was like a momentary. Where we're, we're fixing this and we're, we're trying to make sure all the data is now in the US and okay, back to normal.

[Scuba Steve]

I have noticed though, like I don't really use it much. Like look at other people's stuff. I just post mine and move on. But I did notice for a while there. I mean it was getting to the point where it was so annoying. And it was all these videos of people coming on that there in their car, by the way, which I don't know what the whole deal is, of people shooting videos in their freaking car, especially while they're driving. Like, good lord, get off your effing phone. You're driving a. You're driving a freaking car. Like drive the damn car. You want to know why traffic sucks? There's accidents. Cuz they're on your damn phone just for 30 minutes. Don't use the damn thing and just drive. But everyone wants to shoot videos while they're driving. It's the dumbest thing ever. And I'll go through it sometimes I comment and like, hey, how about you Just drive. And everyone's like, oh, you're a loser. I'm like, no, you're a loser. Loser. You're on your phone looking down instead of at the road. You're gonna hit and kill somebody. You're the idiot. And by you supporting that idiot, you're an idiot. Yeah, but my algorithm was full of people driving in their cars going like, you gotta post on tick tock three times a day. I post on tick tock three times a Day. I got 100,000 followers. Here's how you do it. It was all these videos that people be like, you gotta post every day. Gotta post every day. You gotta post every day, Get a post every day. Post three times a day. Post three times a day. And I was like, why is my algorithm telling me to post every three times a day? I don't have time to post three times a day.

[Morgan]

No. And again, that's the algorithm, like, wigging out. It's having a moment. Because you shouldn't. You. You should be getting a bunch of things that are similar. Like if you interacted with one.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Then of course it'll pop up more. But once you interact with something else.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Then it, like, bounces back. And that's why I say, I don't know quite what's happening on the.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, it's all over the place. And then I commented on one Kane Brown video, and now I get a bunch of Kane Brown stuff. And then. And then I come in on something else and I get all of that. It's like, why can't I get a mixture of. Of like, everything? Why do I get. Just because I can interact with one thing one time, it becomes inundated with that crap.

[Morgan]

Well, and there's a big question of, are we going to get content from other places? Because that was a big part of why people love TikTok. Because you're seeing things from other countries you were interacting with internationally, if you will. And now that's a big question of, are we going to seed some of that same content? Is the content going to change? There's just a lot. There's a lot more questions than there are answers right now with TikTok. And the same thing happened with Twitter. I mean, there's a lot of questions. Twitter, what's happening? So. Oh, yeah, who knows?

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Welcome to my. My digital talk with Scuba.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, you can find me on Instagram and TikTok. It is scuba, Steve Radio. All one word. S, C U B A S T, V R A D I O.

[Morgan]

But to that point, Keep posting.

[Scuba Steve]

Okay.

[Morgan]

Just you. You should always post until it decides to die. Right. Like, you never know. Transition is always hard. Change is always hard with anything, but particularly with social media apps. So don't stop posting just because of people being like, I'm not going to be on it anymore. There's still people on it. There's millions of people on it. So there's still millions of people you can reach. You're always going to have that when change happens and people are going to be like, I'm not doing this and I'm going to do this and I'm going to this app and I'm going here. Whatever you're comfortable with, go and do those other ones, but still stay on those because you have. There's nothing that hurts you to keep posting on those until TikTok one day decides to be completely irrelevant. Relevant.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

That's just the truth of anything. Because everybody tried to say that about Facebook. When Instagram came into the picture, when Twitter came in the picture and Snapchat, I was like, facebook's irrelevant. Facebook is still the biggest social media.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

That exists because you have multiple generations on it.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah, totally. Yeah.

[Morgan]

And that's just how it is. But you have a lot of people who like to say, like, don't use that, or we're not. We shouldn't be doing that. But Facebook is literally still the biggest monster that exists out there.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah. I don't even touch Facebook. I just don't.

[Morgan]

Like, I have a. I have a Facebook page, like my. My personal one, like a business one, and it's got almost 40, 000 followers.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And you would think, like, okay, my generation isn't on there. There's people that would be on Facebook. No, they're there.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

You just have to be willing to use something that you're not used to to try it. And that's what social media is all about.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So that's why I say keep using TikTok.

[Scuba Steve]

Okay.

[Morgan]

Till it's dead in the ground. Ground.

[Scuba Steve]

Okay.

[Morgan]

And then once it's dead, you bounce off, be like, hey, moving on.

[Scuba Steve]

Next one, next one. Yeah.

[Morgan]

It's no different than Snapchat. Had that same thing happen, too. Snapchat has kind of found its way back, but it's really only found its way back with the younger generations. You still have some older people using it just for their friends. Not really for content, if you will.

[Scuba Steve]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

But people make a lot of money off Snapchat content.

[Scuba Steve]

Really? Yeah. Okay. I've never. I've never touched Snapchat. Because that one originally started as a way to cheat, because it was the way to send stuff back and forth. And then if you were to screenshot it or do something with it, it would alert them, like, oh, sorry, I can't cheat with that person anymore. So I was like, I really can't get behind an app or a product that had the basis of, you know, cheating. Cheating. I'm like, f. That's stupid.

[Morgan]

I was the same way. Snapchat really burned me in a lot of ways. So I, like, in college, I quit using it. But I do know that a lot of people use Snapchat. Like, there's. Snapchat has its own for you page now. It has its own content that people specifically put on Snapch Snapchat, and people still use it to communicate. So it's still there. It's just not as functioning as it used to be. And that's. That's what will happen. And that when you actually see that full divide is when you can decide, like, I want to do it anymore. I will. But we're not there with Tick tock yet.

[Scuba Steve]

Okay. All right. Yeah. I was like, you could just text me that or just text me the video. You don't have to, like, put it through an app.

[Morgan]

Yeah, but people like disappearing. There's something about fantasy of disappearing messages.

[Scuba Steve]

So dumb, you know?

[Morgan]

But you can also do that in text messages.

[Scuba Steve]

Make him disappear. Yeah, totally. Yeah. Yeah. So we can just do it there.

[Morgan]

Unsend it, like it never happened.

[Scuba Steve]

Exactly. Yeah. So what are we doing here?

[Morgan]

All right, we're getting out of here. You can also go follow the show obbyboneshow and goodbye, everybody. Have a good weekend.

[Scuba Steve]

That's the best bits of the week with Morgan. Thanks for listening. Be sure to check out the other two parts this weekend. Go follow the show on all social platforms obbyboneshow and follow ebgirlmorgan to submit your listener questions for next week's episode.

[Morgan]

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