THURS PT 2: Amy Brings In Her Gynecologist For Eddie + How Can Eddie Fix His Low T? + Pros And Cons About Billionaires

Summary

The Bobby Bones Show | May 21, 2026 Episode: THURS PT 2: Amy Brings In Her Gynecologist For Eddie + How Can Eddie Fix His Low T? + Pros And Cons About Billionaires

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Episode Overview

In this spirited and insightful episode of The Bobby Bones Show, the team dives deep into several hot topics: billionaire tax responsibility and public image, viral internet stories about the rich and powerful, viral video skepticism, environmental issues surrounding big tech, unusual car stories, and classic slap-fighting etiquette. The main segment features Amy bringing in her gynecologist, Dr. Pascal, and her nurse practitioner, Megan, to review Eddie's shockingly low testosterone levels and offer practical advice for hormone health, vitamin D deficiency, and lifestyle change—covering both science and the emotional aspects of these health journeys.

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Key Segment Summaries & Timestamps

1. Billionaires, Taxes, and PR (02:00–13:10)

• Discussion kicked off by Amy's reference to Jeff Bezos’ “no taxes for the bottom 50%” statement.

  • Amy questions the sincerity of billionaires who advocate for lower taxes for the working class but don’t commit to higher taxes themselves.
  • Bobby is skeptical: “It's very easy to say this because you know it's not going to happen…they’re never held accountable to their words because they don’t have to be.” (02:27)
  • The team discusses Bezos’ evolving public image and the optics of him softening his look for public relations.

• Pros and cons of billionaire influence

  • Amy: “At what point is enough enough? Why still skirt around and pay as little as you can?” (04:36)
  • Bobby explains it’s more about power than pure money, pointing out only Mackenzie Scott (Bezos’ ex-wife) has notably given away billions ($26B+) to charity. (05:10)
  • They touch on economic justifications given by the ultra-wealthy for tax breaks, like “job creation,” but remain cynical about the real motives.

  "If you're in the bottom 50%, you should not pay taxes. But he also did not commit to all billionaires paying even more." – Bobby Bones (02:17)

• Brief tangent: Elon Musk, Sam Altman (OpenAI), and public perceptions of tech billionaires (08:03–09:03).

  • Bobby: “Sam Altman... people say that is a bad dude... It’s all power.”
  • Amy and Bobby agree that philanthropy and wealth can coexist, but accountability is lacking.
  • Warren Buffett is mentioned as an example of a more “reasonable” billionaire. (10:48)

2. Viral Videos, Data Centers, and Environmental Impact (11:29–13:19)

• Amy shares a viral story of two Utah campaigners falsely accused of being “Chinese operatives” by investor Kevin O’Leary.

  • The group laughs about public misperception and the manipulation of narratives by those in power.
  • Discussion shifts to the environmental and political issues surrounding massive proposed data centers in Utah.

• Bobby: “There’s so much corruption. It’s never been more corrupt, I don't think, than right now.” (12:47)

3. Cybertruck Mishap and Show-and-Tell (13:36–16:21)

• Eddie tells the story of a 70-year-old man who drove his Tesla Cybertruck into a lake to show off the “Wade Mode” and totaled it.
  • Discussion about the vehicle’s limits and insurance woes.
  • Bobby: “I'm very thankful...I’m glad I didn’t buy a Cybertruck.” (15:11)

4. Sports Drama: Golfer Fires Caddy (16:22–18:34)

• Lunchbox updates on a pro golfer who was penalized for being late, initially owned up to it, but later blamed and fired his caddy.
  • Bobby and the team discuss scapegoating and emotional decision-making after a bad sports outcome.

5. Joey Chestnut Slap Story & Slap Ethics (18:34–23:54)

• Morgan reports that competitive eater Joey Chestnut was arrested for slapping a fan in a bar.
  • The group debates whether slapping is “tough,” “demeaning,” or just odd.
  • Bobby: “If you slap me, that means you think so little of me… If you punch me, it means, well, you thought I was strong enough to take a punch.” (20:53)
  • Group share stories of childhood and adolescent fights—mix of humor and some (unexpected) dark turns.

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Main Segment:

Amy’s Gynecologist & Eddie’s Low Testosterone
(27:16–56:41)

Introductions & Why They’re Here (27:16–28:41)

• Amy brings in Dr. Pascal (gynecologist with experience in men’s hormone health) and nurse practitioner Megan.

• Review and discussion of Eddie’s “extremely low” testosterone and possible vitamin D deficiency.

  Dr. Pascal: “Absolutely. I’m wondering, who is this guy? Where is he? Is he walking?” (29:12)

Analysis of Eddie’s Results & Symptom Explanations (29:31–33:09)

• Eddie's numbers “extremely low” for testosterone, “little D” for vitamin D (D=20, normal is 30–100).

• Typical symptoms—fatigue, pseudo-depression, lack of focus—align with low T and low vitamin D.

• Dr. Pascal: “We are misdiagnosing so many patients and not getting to the root of it, which is low T.” (32:09)

  Megan: “Just wondering how you’re living your day-to-day life and still upbeat and happy.” (30:33)

• Eddie is surprised, says libido is fine; Dr. Pascal acknowledges libido can be independent of T due to multiple influencers.

Vitamin D: Why It Matters & Fixes (33:09–37:59)

• Importance of checking and supplementing vitamin D—sunshine helps, but modern lifestyles and sunscreen block absorption.

• “Most people in America are vitamin D deficient.” (35:16)

• Multivitamins usually don’t have enough D; Dr. Pascal recommends direct supplementation and monitoring.

  Amy: “You can do everything you want to build the testosterone… but if you don’t have vitamin D, it’s not going to happen.” (52:25)

Pellets for Hormone Replacement: How They Work (42:00–49:00)

• Amy’s experience with plant-based (yam-derived), bioidentical hormone pellets.

• Pellets are calculated precisely, monitored by blood, and typically last 4–8 months depending on sex.

• Dr. Pascal: “The more you can mimic exactly what’s coming out of your organs, your body does not know that it’s a synthetic because it’s not. It’s isomolecular. It is the same.” (46:25)

  • Women: Less risk than old hormone therapies; not about growing beards.
  • Men: Same concept, with testosterone adjusted to male needs.
  • Megan: “With the pellet, [the dose is] a lot more consistent.” (47:49)

• Eddie warms up to the idea but wants to try lifestyle changes first.

Practical Steps for Boosting T & D Naturally (39:44–56:24)

• Diet & lifestyle:

  • Eat more: Protein. “Protein is your best friend.” – Megan (40:13)
  • Eat less: Processed foods. “Processed foods…change the microbiome…affecting your natural innate bacteria.” – Dr. Pascal (40:39)
  • Get outside for sunshine (vitamin D), avoid easy junk food.
  • Exercise and relaxation (to lower cortisol) can contribute.

• Change is hard but necessary:

  • “What you’ve been doing for the last life—yes, forever—you have to change.” – Megan (56:01)
  • Up to Eddie to be consistent and follow through.

• Broader implications:

  • Dr. Pascal: Low T is common, even in men as young as 25. “Check the fundamentals before jumping to conclusions like depression.”

Notable/Funny Moment: Amy’s “Tailbone” (50:40–51:57)

• Show-and-tell as Amy has Dr. Pascal feel her unusually protruding tailbone, which turns into a moment of show camaraderie.

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Memorable Quotes

• “If, like, you put 10 pellets in Amy on accident, oh Lord…But no, it would not be an accident." – Dr. Pascal (49:28)
• “You punch me, it means, well, you thought I was strong enough to take a punch. But also by the slapper, if you slap like this, that also looks bad. But if you’re like, what are you even doing?...That slap makes them look like a little punk.” – Bobby Bones (20:53)
• “It’s not about getting through it. It’s about moving forward together.” – Bobby Bones, on autoimmune disease community (23:54)
• “I want a better quality of life. Right. Like, I do want to wake up and feel like I’m getting ready to take on the day. Right. I want to feel that way, but I don’t want to necessarily put things in my body yet. I want to see what I can do naturally first.” – Eddie (39:48)

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Actionable Takeaways

• For listeners: If you’re struggling with fatigue, mood, or motivation, check your vitamin D and testosterone levels—could be an undiagnosed hormonal imbalance.
• Lifestyle changes: Prioritize protein, cut processed foods, get moderate sun, and take targeted supplements as needed.
• Hormone pellet therapy (in this clinic’s model) uses plant-based, bioidentical compounds timed to individual need—less risky than old synthetic hormones.
• Accountability and incremental change are crucial: habits add up over years.

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Timeline of Major Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:00–13:10| Billionaires, Taxes, PR motives | | 13:36–16:21| Cybertruck disaster, car feature talk | | 16:22–18:34| Golfer blames caddy for missed cut | | 18:34–23:54| Joey Chestnut slap, the art and meaning of slapping | | 27:16–56:41| Amy’s gynecologist & nurse = Eddie’s Low T and vitamin D intervention | | 50:40 | Amy’s tailbone show-and-tell |

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Original Tone Maintained:

• Playful, candid, occasionally cheeky, but informative and supportive regarding health topics.

End of Summary This summary delivers a comprehensive, timestamped breakdown of the episode’s main themes, discussions, and practical takeaways, preserving the fun, candid tone of The Bobby Bones Show.

Transcript

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[Geico Gecko]

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[Eddie]

It feels good to get good news. It feels good to Geico

[Dr. Pascal]

Bobby Bones.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, hope everybody's having a good Thursday. Let's just start by going around the room. Amy, what do you have?

[Amy]

Well, I saw this yesterday and I thought it was cool at first. I was like, is this AI? Am I being tricked? But it really did look like Jeff Bezos. And did you see him saying that if people make like he used a nurse as an example, a nurse making $75,000 a year shouldn't pay taxes.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, his thing was if you're in the bottom 50%, you should not pay taxes. But he also did not commit to all billionaires paying even more taxes.

[Amy]

That's what I found to be a little like. I'm like, okay, well step up.

[Bobby Bones]

Also, it's very easy to say this because you know it's not going to happen. And I think a lot of these billionaires that aren't using their money in positive ways or finding ways to not pay taxes are now a bit on a promo tour to go, no, we want to. But they're never held accountable to their words because they don't have to be.

[Amy]

Oh, see, you don't think it's gonna happen.

[Bobby Bones]

I do not. I don't think. I don't even think he wants it to happen.

[Amy]

Gosh, he sure acted like it was a no brainer.

[Bobby Bones]

It could be a no brainer, but yeah, you can just say that. It's like when Eddie goes, I want to give a kidney to somebody.

[Lunchbox]

No, I really do like somebody.

[Bobby Bones]

And Jeff Bezos wants the lower half of people and I have to pay taxes. Oh, I did see it though, and there were some great points made. But however, the points will never be enforced, nor do I think he really wants them enforced. This is just my opinion.

[Amy]

Yeah, it was a clip on cnbc.

[Bobby Bones]

He looked pretty good too. He had like hair, like facial hair and stuff.

[Lunchbox]

He looked good.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, he just looked like not evil villain Jeff Bezos. And maybe that was part of. He wanted to look a little softer because he's going the bottom half. All this is. Everything's manicured with these folks, like not even just physically, but what they're saying, they have so many people telling them.

[Lunchbox]

But you know what's interesting about him too is that he remains bald even though he has so much money. He could probably like create the perfect

[Bobby Bones]

hairdo, I think when you're bald for so long, like completely bald. Yeah. If you were to kind of hard to have hair.

[Amy]

Yeah, that would be weird.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh yeah, you can't really launch back in because on this yesterday he had a little bit of the side hair,

[Amy]

which I thought was interesting. But to your point, maybe he did it to soften himself because it wasn't as like tight and shiny and. Yeah, like evil villain.

[Bobby Bones]

It was not Lex Luthor evil villain.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And he had a little bit of a goatee beard and and so when I saw him saying this, my mind automatically goes to why is he saying this? Because I know he doesn't believe it or he could have done something already with his money. The only person who donates that I know from all of his money outwardly and openly is his ex wife.

[Lunchbox]

That's awesome.

[Bobby Bones]

Who donates millions and millions at a time. And so I don't think he wants to be seen as like a bad Guy. So if you don't want to be seen as a bad guy, say good guy stuff, especially when you're never held accountable.

[Amy]

Yeah, I guess it's just I don't know if they ever asked themselves this question or if anybody asks it of them, like directly, but that's what I would be curious about. I just want to say, like, why, when you have $270 billion, which is what he's worth, which, okay, yeah, you created this company, whatever. But like, at what point enough is enough? Like, why not? Why still skirt around things and figure out how to pay as least as you can or as little as you can?

[Bobby Bones]

I have a few answers to that that I think is what they would answer. Number one, I do just want to say Mackenzie Scott, formerly Mackenzie Bezos, has donated over $26 billion to more than 2,000 nonprofit organizations since her 2019 pledge to give away the majority of her wealth. Wild.

[Lunchbox]

Amazing.

[Eddie]

That's crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

Now, to answer your question, I don't think with these billionaires it's about I could give away all this and it still not affect me. I think it's, I need to have more than the other billionaires. And the more I have, the more power I have. If I'm number one, two or three, imagine the newspapers and Bezos has a newspaper. Imagine the things that you can buy on a large scale that influences people in a way that you want people influenced. It's a power thing more than it is just having money and not spending it.

[Amy]

I understand that, but if all the billionaires are held to the same standard of paying the same percentage towards, they're

[Bobby Bones]

not going to be.

[Amy]

Yeah, well, why are we?

[Bobby Bones]

Because we don't have enough power. We don't have enough money to pay people like a lobbyist.

[Amy]

All right, I get it. I get caught now. I know.

[Bobby Bones]

Or a politician return to create a tax code that says A, B and C. And if you do this, you don't have to pay your taxes because you're create.

[Amy]

No, I mean, I get it. I'm not above little like, oh, wow, if you do this little loop de loo, like you don't have to pay this extra $5,000 or you're going to get this money back. Like, okay, I guess just for them, just so much of the burden or so many things wouldn't have to be canceled or money shifted from one program to the next. If they would just like. And it would mean nothing to them, they would still have power and it

[Bobby Bones]

still means nothing to them because they don't really know and understand it because they never had to experience it. Elon Musk has almost a trillion dollars. He has over $850 billion.

[Amy]

Speaking of, what's up with his baby mama?

[Bobby Bones]

One of them. He has many kids. I know the one you met Ashley St. Clair.

[Amy]

Yes. So many people.

[Bobby Bones]

She's now online kind of just giving

[Amy]

all the secrets, claiming some stuff about him. And so many people, I see them, they're like, man, I want to believe her. And like, I feel like she's telling the truth. It just sucks that she was doing a get ready with me while she was telling all this, like, serious information. She's like putting on concealer and it's like, oh, you know, there might be a little more validity here if we weren't putting on makeup while we were talking about it.

[Bobby Bones]

But I believe no one ever until they prove they should be believed. So.

[Amy]

Well, so you didn't even believe? Like, I believe maybe his, his, his, his hair and softness got to me. Maybe that's why I thought it was AI But I believed, like, oh, wow. He really wants to try to figure out a way to implement this for the people that are earning a certain amount.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, that would be nice. But there would be no reason for him to change what he's been doing for the last 20 years unless there was a real reason for him to change, which is something that would benefit him. Like, there are certain of these guys that have notoriously bad reputations or being bad people, like Sam Altman. People say that is a bad dude.

[Amy]

Yeah. I just don't think he has any,

[Bobby Bones]

like, he has no interest of any humanity at all. It's all power. He's open AI guys.

[Amy]

He's chat. GPT.

[Eddie]

God, I had a good.

[Lunchbox]

I didn't know who that was.

[Bobby Bones]

He's the one that's trying to create portals, supposedly. I don't know him. I don't know him, but. And I don't believe anybody. But if like 14 people independent say the same thing, I go, well, maybe there's something to it. Or the guy could just be so awesome, everybody hates him. Who knows? I know nothing. But I would also say my other point to that it's not the same. God, it's not the same, but I'm gonna say it. It's all relative. People could say that about me. I feel like I try to give and I try to help, but do I have some nice stuff? People will be like, well, if you really cared, you wouldn't even have the nice stuff.

[Amy]

Absolutely. I'm not trying to take away their billions or their nice things.

[Bobby Bones]

But you are. You want them to give their billions and I do too.

[Amy]

I want them to be held accountable to the same standards that we're held to when it comes to paying our taxes.

[Bobby Bones]

Fair. However, I hate playing devil's advocate for these people. However, they are creating a ton of business in certain areas for people to have jobs, for people to. If they don't build these factories and warehouses and have. In California and that.

[Amy]

Yeah, you create jobs for all of us here and you pay taxes.

[Bobby Bones]

No, no, no, I don't. It's different.

[Amy]

I know it's different.

[Bobby Bones]

I just, I don't want to even advocate for them because I do think they find so many legal ways to avoid taxes. Sometimes they make deals and not pay taxes. Movies do that at times. Baseball teams do that at times. We will build a stadium in your city. Billionaire owner. We want to come to your city. We're going to build a stadium. Taxes. You guys got to pay for it because we don't want to. People are like, why? Why, why? Why don't you pay for it? You have billions. Oh, do you understand all the jobs it's going to bring to the city? Do you understand what it's going to do economically for the city? That's why you should pay for this stadium for my team. So they avoid, again, paying money out the same way they avoid paying money out. If you're a billionaire and you have these Amazon. I saw two Amazon trucks this morning just crushing it. And I was like, thumbs up.

[Lunchbox]

What do you mean crushing it?

[Bobby Bones]

Like working, deliver, grinding early, grinding away. But I, I agree with you.

[Amy]

I know, it's just.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. I'm just presenting the perspective of someone who does not have an understanding of what the real world is like. They just know what legally they can get away with and what their goals are and why they can justify not paying taxes because they have created all these jobs for all these people. And that's part of the reason I have to pay taxes.

[Amy]

I think Warren Buffett is the only really rich guy that I kind of think has a little bit of a normal head on his shoulder.

[Bobby Bones]

Could have also been before it was an arms race to have the most money ever to make it high on the list.

[Amy]

And by rich, I mean like these incredibly wealthy.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, yeah, he's very much a give back guy. He's very much a guy who's like, I'm gonna die and not leave my kids any money. But he also said, I gave my kids ton of resources while they're alive to make their own money.

[Amy]

Yeah. Okay. I get it.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, I agree with you, for the record.

[Amy]

Mm.

[Bobby Bones]

But I also saw the video and thought, ah, PR made him grow his hair out a little bit in his face.

[Amy]

Yeah. I didn't. That's why. It's probably why for a second I was like, is this AI?

[Bobby Bones]

He's like, he's back. He's good. He turned good on us.

[Amy]

Yeah. This is like, not him. There's these. This just made me think another video I saw, and this is very much real. But these two girls out of Utah, I don't even know much more than these videos that I saw. But the data centers that Kevin o' Leary is wanting to put up in Utah, and there's these two girls, and

[Dr. Pascal]

they

[Amy]

work for Democratic campaigns.

[Bobby Bones]

You can hire them, but they're normal people.

[Amy]

Normal people.

[Bobby Bones]

Chinese nationals.

[Dr. Pascal]

No.

[Amy]

And what was so hilarious is they put together a reel where Kevin o' Leary is doing an interview and he's calling them out by name. It would be like if he was like, Morgan Massengill and Amy Brown, these two girls in Utah, but they are Chinese operatives. And then it would cut to them, and they're sitting at, like, a desk at their office, and they're like, more normal people.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

We're Amy and Morgan.

[Amy]

I'm Amy. I'm Morgan. And we're not Chinese operatives. We've just lived in Utah our entire lives. And we're very passionate about the fact that this data center.

[Bobby Bones]

That data center. 40,000 acres in Utah, larger than Manhattan in New York. Wow.

[Amy]

Yeah. And then they start pointing out all the. The. The politicians there that are like, hey, fun fact. And they've got post it notes to like, build their case. And they're like, fun fact. This person that voted this. They own this much land right near the data center. Could be a coincidence.

[Bobby Bones]

There's so much corruption. It's never been more corrupt, I don't think, than right now.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

But these data centers, why people are upset about them is. Could affect water, could affect the air taking up a lot of land. Obviously, that there is no bigger one that I believe than the one they're wanting to put in Utah. I think it's the biggest one. But there's a lot of towns, small towns that are agreeing to it because of the financial.

[Lunchbox]

Sure.

[Bobby Bones]

The positive financial impact without really knowing what's going to happen environmentally.

[Lunchbox]

What's the paper that Bezos owns?

[Bobby Bones]

Washington Post.

[Lunchbox]

Oh, didn't know that because you kind of said that you're like, yeah, he has his own paper.

[Bobby Bones]

What if I said, like, the Arkansas Democrat Gazette?

[Lunchbox]

I'm like, wow, he owns that, huh?

[Eddie]

You'd be like, I don't know that one either.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. Lunchbox man.

[Eddie]

There's a guy in Grapevine, Texas, and he has a cyber truck. And he. There were some people over visiting his neighbors. Like, hey, you guys want to go for a ride in it? He takes him for a ride and he goes, you want to see the. The Wade mode, I guess it can go across creeks and bodies of water. So he drove it out into the lake, and he went too far, and water got into the charging port, shut down the cybertruck, and they had to be rescued.

[Bobby Bones]

So it's a Wade mode, maybe not a swim mode. Is there a mo. Like a level of water where it does not work anymore?

[Eddie]

Yeah, I guess because the water got in the charging port, made it short circuit.

[Bobby Bones]

So three feet maybe. Like, there's gotta be a level.

[Lunchbox]

But it is promoted to have a waiting mode.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

That's crazy.

[Eddie]

I had no idea. I was like, what? I thought he was just being crazy, but then I read about it, and it's like, it's a real thing where you can go across creeks and bodies of water.

[Bobby Bones]

There is a suspension lift where it lifts the car up a little bit. The truck, I guess, to very high to clear obstacles and keep the cabin out of the water. It uses an internal system to pressurize the battery, often referred to as a scuba pack, and creating internal pressure to prevent water from seeping into sensitive electronic components. But again, it drives slowly, one to three miles an hour. And there's a maximum weight depth of 32 inches. So not quite three feet, but yeah, but.

[Eddie]

So my question is, so he gets arrested, right, for going in the water at this beach, at this lake. Now, when he files an insurance claim, are they going to deny that?

[Bobby Bones]

I would think so.

[Eddie]

So he has. I don't know how a cybertruck is expensive, right?

[Bobby Bones]

100 grand slot, probably cheaper now. 80 grand if I'm guessing.

[Eddie]

So he just wasted $80,000 showing off.

[Bobby Bones]

The Tesla Cybertruck starts at 70 grand for the base model.

[Eddie]

Oh, my God.

[Bobby Bones]

And models that add more, around $100,000, but all wheel drive, 81 to $99,000. You know, I'm very thankful. I'd like to have a moment of thankfulness here. I'm glad I didn't buy a cyber truck.

[Amy]

Were you thinking about it when it first came out?

[Bobby Bones]

I flirted with it because I thought, man, Tesla's they, they charge so easy in so many places. And I kind of love the electric vehicle thing. And then it got real douchey real quick and I didn't. But yeah, I did think about it.

[Amy]

Yeah, I guess for a minute.

[Eddie]

It's so cool, let me tell you. Oh, still you see a cyber truck.

[Amy]

Wow, this is.

[Eddie]

It is really cool.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

And my kids freak out too.

[Bobby Bones]

I think for kids it'll be cool. I don't think it's cold all anymore. You do though.

[Eddie]

I still, I mean, that's cool. I will say that.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm not judging you.

[Eddie]

No, no, no. Elon kind of ruins it sometimes. When I hear him I'm like, okay, I don't want to buy that. But just the way it looks, it's like, man, it looks like a tank almost. And it's so cool. And you know how old the guy was that drove it on the lake? You think like a 20 year old, 70 year old dude.

[Lunchbox]

70.

[Bobby Bones]

You know what, I kind of feel like that makes sense though. Yeah. Yeah.

[Eddie]

I figured It'd be a 20 year old trying to show off to the Neighbors. It's a 70 year old dude or

[Bobby Bones]

an old dude that didn't quite know where he was.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, Eddie.

[Lunchbox]

So remember I told you guys about that golfer that was late to the big tournament and so when you're late there's two stroke penalty or whatever. Well, he came out right after all that happened. Said, man, I was barely late, but I understand the rules. Like I wasn't there on time, whatever. I'm a laid back kind of person. Well, now he's blaming it on the caddy and he fired the caddy. He said the caddy told me that, you know, he told me the wrong time. He didn't get me there when he was supposed to, when I was supposed to get there, so. So he fired him.

[Amy]

Dang.

[Bobby Bones]

Let me think about how I feel about this.

[Lunchbox]

Have you seen the guy? Do you know what he looks like?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I watched the whole thing and he was only a minute late. He was there on the practice screen.

[Lunchbox]

Correct.

[Bobby Bones]

But if you're one second late, you're one second late. Right? So, dude, your caddy, caddy is an extension of you.

[Amy]

Right? That's why I fired him.

[Bobby Bones]

But people were there, people, there's an extension of him. It's his fault. Oh, it's his fault.

[Lunchbox]

People there said the caddy was on the green yelling at him, say, hey, let's go.

[Amy]

So he's blaming the.

[Lunchbox]

Like he fired him. Straight up.

[Amy]

Fired Him. I mean, I get it, but, like, really? Has the caddy been like, no, dude, I told you.

[Bobby Bones]

Doesn't matter. He probably is looking. Little scapegoat. Little scapegoaty situation here.

[Amy]

Oh, that sucks.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Where did he finish in the tournament?

[Lunchbox]

He got cut.

[Bobby Bones]

He didn't make the cut one stroke. Because after the first day, he was only two back from the lead. That was the two that he got. I know he didn't make the cut,

[Lunchbox]

so this is crazy. So he didn't make the cut, which

[Bobby Bones]

means that he's embarrassed now. That's what it is.

[Eddie]

Yeah. Because it was plus. He was plus five after two rounds. The cut line was plus four.

[Amy]

Oh, so he fired the caddy after he got cut. Because if he hadn't gotten cut, he maybe wouldn't have fired caddy. Okay. So, yeah, he's just butt hurt. Making decisions based off his emotions.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I didn't know he didn't make the cut.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah, he barely made. He barely missed the cut. And I found out, too, that when you miss the cut at these big major tournaments, they give you 45, $4,500, and that's kind of like your thank you for coming.

[Bobby Bones]

For a long time, it was nothing, but whenever Liv came and they had to make some new rules, they were like, okay, anybody that just is in the tournament, we'll make sure they get paid too.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah. So, I mean, he came out with a little bit of money, I guess.

[Bobby Bones]

Didn't pay for his trip.

[Lunchbox]

No. Or the caddy. Really?

[Bobby Bones]

You got to pay for all that yourself? It's a bad move.

[Morgan]

Okay, Morgan, so Joey Chestnut, he's famous for eating all the foods, doing all the things. Well, he has now also been arrested because he slapped somebody.

[Bobby Bones]

What the person do. They got slapped.

[Morgan]

So he was in a bar in Indiana. It was about 2am and it looks like, based on the security footage, that a fan walked up to him, they shook hands, and then the fan said something, and Chestnut's, like, demeanor changed, and that's when he slapped the guy across the face.

[Bobby Bones]

I need to know what the fan said.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah, it's interesting. He slapped him.

[Bobby Bones]

Didn't punch him.

[Lunchbox]

Didn't punch him.

[Bobby Bones]

Maybe you don't want to hurt your hand. Yeah, because I've thought about that too.

[Lunchbox]

Really?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Like, if some. If I. I don't know that I would slap, I think I would go elbow. It's a quick elbow or knee to the nut.

[Lunchbox]

Mm.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't want to hurt my knuckles.

[Lunchbox]

Slap just seems a weird. I wouldn't even call a slap a fight. Really?

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, let me slap you.

[Lunchbox]

Well, but that wouldn't be like we wouldn't.

[Bobby Bones]

You ever watch slap fights?

[Eddie]

Oh my gosh.

[Bobby Bones]

I hate watching those clips. I can't watch those clips. Thermal face goes. So what's any. What else? Anything else.

[Morgan]

So he did admit he was very drunk and he didn't remember the altercation. But when police showed him the surveillance footage, he acknowledged that he thinks he took offense to something that that person said. So he pled guilty to a class B misdemeanor battery and he's on probation for 180 days.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah, probation. Does that mean that can he still compete?

[Eddie]

Yeah, he has no travel restrictions of the rules are. Yeah, like they said that you can still travel. You just stay out of trouble for a dog. Yeah.

[Lunchbox]

Okay. All right, cool.

[Bobby Bones]

You know, it does kind of make

[Lunchbox]

you like tough to slap someone, anybody

[Bobby Bones]

in a bar if somebody messes with you and you pop them one Slapping

[Eddie]

doesn't make you look tough.

[Lunchbox]

I don't think so.

[Eddie]

Slapping makes you look like a bee.

[Bobby Bones]

It depends how you slap. If you slap like this, would you say. Because slapping also is very demeaning towards that person. If it's a good slap. Like if you slap me, that means you think so little of me. You think that a slap like I'm just a little bee and you just slapped. You just slapped a bee? Uh huh. You punch me, it means, well, you thought I was strong enough to take a punch. But also by the slapper, if you slap like this, that also looks bad. But if you're like, what are you even doing? Why you like that? That slap makes them look like a little punk.

[Lunchbox]

You like that?

[Bobby Bones]

Like think about that.

[Amy]

You mean like a, like a puppy?

[Bobby Bones]

No, I'm talking about. Let's. I'm not going to hit you. But let's say it's Eddie. Eddie's like saying something. I'm like, say it again. I'm going to pop you one.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah, you pump.

[Amy]

It's like a pop.

[Lunchbox]

You heard me, you pump.

[Bobby Bones]

Say it again. Boom. Point right at them.

[Amy]

Oh, wow.

[Bobby Bones]

Like that right there. They look like the little Bee. Cuz they didn't even deserve a punch. They got a slap and they shut up.

[Lunchbox]

And so did the guy fight back or he just take the slap?

[Eddie]

I think he just took the slap.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

There wasn't a fight exactly.

[Lunchbox]

Little B. Yeah, he is a b. I will say the one time I got into a fight, it wasn't a slap really, but it was like a back hand. You know what I mean? Like, I hit him with the back of my fist because you're right, I didn't really want to punch. I never punched anyone in my life. And so I didn't really. I was like, man, I really don't want to punch this guy. So I kind of went backwards, hit him with the back of my fist.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, that's why, too, whenever those UFC guys and someone's on the ground, they don't punch with their fist down. They punch. Hammer.

[Lunchbox]

Yes, the hammer punch.

[Bobby Bones]

Because, again, to punch like this, your hand is at risk. You. You are going to break your knuckles. So. And it does look kind of feminine when they do it. But that's why when they're going, like, when they're down on the ground. But that's why. Because this doesn't bend or break. Yeah, this. This. Nothing can bend backward or break this frontward way. Knuckles can break. Fingers can break.

[Lunchbox]

You ever punch someone?

[Bobby Bones]

No, I slapped a couple people.

[Eddie]

Really? What's worse? If you backhand them, dude.

[Bobby Bones]

Or like, I don't want to backhand because it's going to hurt my hand.

[Eddie]

That's true. I didn't think about it.

[Bobby Bones]

And also, it's not going to be as strong. It's not going to be as quick.

[Lunchbox]

I don't know, man. The guy hit. He cried. Seventh grade.

[Amy]

Wow.

[Lunchbox]

And then. And then he cried, and he didn't say anything about it. He just, like, just was quiet in class, didn't say anything. And then the next day, the next class, the principal came and, like, Eddie, you talk to you? He told on me to the next teacher, got slapped. And then. He's dead.

[Eddie]

What?

[Lunchbox]

He died?

[Bobby Bones]

No, I think complications of the slap.

[Lunchbox]

He had cancer. I know. I was really sad when I found out, but, I mean, it must have been like 10 years ago.

[Amy]

Oh, I've never hit anything in the face, anybody or anything in the face.

[Lunchbox]

Lunchbox. Have you?

[Eddie]

Yeah, I got in a fight, seventh grade. This kid in sixth grade, day before, he walked by as I was walking out of school and like, kind of kicked the back of me, and I turned around, he ran off. So that next morning, I went up to his locker, shoved in the locker and went at it. And then just, like, little fights with my brother and friends in the neighborhood, like Aaron and Forrest and classic Aaron, Always Aaron. Let me say, you guys are, like,

[Bobby Bones]

fighting and make up, right? And then.

[Eddie]

Well, yeah, no, no, we wouldn't kiss. But you want to know who like to fight? Aaron and Forrest, they could fight. They got in a lot of fights and they each other. They're each other or just people?

[Lunchbox]

Like, I mean, why would they fight each other? They're friends.

[Eddie]

I know, but dude, I'm telling you. Taco Cabana. Freaking Jim's Taco Cabana at night. Oh, it got rowdy.

[Bobby Bones]

You're always one spot away from a fight.

[Eddie]

Definitely some good fights.

[Bobby Bones]

Great Queso. Love the tacos. But man, don't be talking to anybody because after about 11 o' clock at Taco Cabana, there could be a fight at any moment. You could be in it.

[Eddie]

100%, dude.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, let's take a break. We'll take a break. Come back in a second. Bones Living with a rare autoimmune condition can bring a lot of uncertainty, but it can also bring people together in powerful ways. Tune in for Season six of Untold Life with a Severe Autoimmune Condition, a Ruby Studio production in partnership with Argenics. This season, host Martine Hackett brings you fresh stories from people living with MG and CIDP and expands the conversation of people living with other rare conditions like Myositis and igan. Through their stories, you'll learn what it's like to participate in clinical trials seeking new treatments, how connection fuels hope, and how people can support one another along the way. Because living with a rare disease isn't about getting through it. It's about moving forward together. Listen to untold life with a Severe Autoimmune condition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Amy]

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[Eddie]

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[Amy]

So my gynecologist coming in and also her nurse practitioner who has worked very closely with me. She's the one that draws my blood and has given me all my results. And I went ahead and printed off Eddie's blood work, all the results.

[Lunchbox]

Is that legal?

[Bobby Bones]

You can't do that.

[Amy]

Well, you had sent it to me.

[Bobby Bones]

Here they come now. Have a seat over here. So. So, Amy, you gave them.

[Amy]

Well, they're holding it. They've got Eddie's paperwork in their hands and they've reviewed it and they know what's going on. And. Yeah, so this is my team. They've helped me get my hormones on track.

[Bobby Bones]

There's a microphone right over there beside you, doctor.

[Amy]

Great.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. And is it doctor, how do you say your last name?

[Amy]

Pascal.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. Dr. Pascal.

[Dr. Pascal]

Pascal like Pascal from Hot Springs, Arkansas.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. And then you are. Megan.

[H]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Do I call you.

[H]

Megan's fine.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. I just want to make sure everybody gets their, you know, their due. What they've. And Megan, you are a physician assistant. Okay, Amy, now you gave them Eddie's. Is that legal?

[Amy]

I'm really not quite sure if. But. But since Eddie had forwarded.

[Bobby Bones]

We did this all in the air. Everything was public paperwork.

[Lunchbox]

Whoa. Like all that was.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you not want your help?

[Lunchbox]

Yeah, but what was that called? My complete blood work Results or.

[Amy]

Yeah, your total. Like y' all would know what it's.

[Dr. Pascal]

Metabolic profile.

[Lunchbox]

This is everything.

[Bobby Bones]

You're complete metabolic everything.

[Dr. Pascal]

But it's. It's pretty much a lot.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Dr. Pascal, so have you ever worked on a man before?

[Dr. Pascal]

Absolutely.

[Lunchbox]

Oh, now, doctor, why would you work on a man as a gynecologist?

[Dr. Pascal]

Well, we have training in all fields. I was actually. I had my early years. I was a pharmacist. I was also an internal medicine doctor, so I did everything. Prostate exams, cardiac.

[Bobby Bones]

Can we get four of those right now while you're here?

[Dr. Pascal]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. So, doctor, you saw Eddie's numbers, right? Low, huh?

[Dr. Pascal]

Absolutely. I'm wondering. I'm wondering, who is this guy? Where is he? Is he walking?

[Lunchbox]

Would you say low or extremely low, as they've said?

[Dr. Pascal]

Extremely low.

[Eddie]

Oh, even a doctor said it.

[Dr. Pascal]

Extremely low.

[Eddie]

Could he be a chick?

[Amy]

She's wondering how he's walking.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. What do you mean? Like, when someone has testosterone this low, what's happening in their body?

[Dr. Pascal]

There's a lot that's happening. I'm looking at these other labs to see is there anything metabolic going on? Is there diabetes? Does he have hypertension? Is he a heavy drinker? Are his liver enzymes, you know, are they out of whack and they're not. So his liver looks good.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, that's good.

[Lunchbox]

I'm not a heavy drinker, so that's good.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. And what about diabetes?

[Lunchbox]

I have history, family history of diabetes. But I'm.

[Dr. Pascal]

I'm a little suspicious here because I'd like to know when the sugars came back. I don't. I don't know if you were fasting or not.

[Lunchbox]

I was not. And here's what the. The guy that took my sample said. He's like, hey, when you get these back, don't look at the glucose numbers

[Dr. Pascal]

because, well, depends on when you ate too.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah, I had just eaten a bar,

[Dr. Pascal]

so the sugar is. That's appropriate if you've just eaten.

[Bobby Bones]

Ding, there's two.

[Lunchbox]

Love it.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, so, Megan, what did you think? You saw the numbers. What do you say?

[H]

I am in the same boat with Dr. Pascal. Just wondering, like, how you're living your day to day life and still upbeat and happy.

[Bobby Bones]

That's what he said. He said he would wake up, guys, and he would be like, dreading going in because he was so exhausted from the moment that he opened his eyes.

[Dr. Pascal]

I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised at all.

[Lunchbox]

Lunchbox. This isn't funny, man.

[Bobby Bones]

It has nothing to do with four kids. It Mostly has to do with tapping into body.

[Dr. Pascal]

Well, see, that's what most people think. And it's interesting. Meg and I were having this conversation. I take care and has no implications of Eddie whatsoever. But I've been able to see a lot of men in the last 10 years because I was working with addicted women, pregnant women, and so their significant others, they brought their significant others in. And so I've continued to see men also throughout the years. And here's the crazy thing that I've noticed is across the board, men and women, they have the same symptoms when their hormones are up. Obviously, men were dealing with testosterone alone, but decreased energy, fatigue, pseudo depression, focusing ability. I've had psychiatrists now that are sending patients to see me, which is hilarious, because the antidepressants, anti anxiety, ADHD medications, they're like. Well, I don't like the side effects. It's not treating them. They're bottoming out. They're not getting the results. And I thought, wait a minute. These guys are just like my hormonal patients. Why don't we just check their labs and see what's going on?

[Bobby Bones]

And it turns out low T. Low

[Dr. Pascal]

T. So I started thinking, wait a minute. We are misdiagnosing so many patients and not got getting to the bottom of

[Bobby Bones]

the root of it, which is low

[Dr. Pascal]

T. But then also, Meg, what else? What else do we look coupled with the low vitamin D. Low vitamin D. Sunshine.

[Lunchbox]

That's the sun.

[Dr. Pascal]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Or do we need to supplement sunshine with, like, actual.

[Amy]

No.

[Dr. Pascal]

Well, that's what I do. I end up supplementing patients. His D is 20.

[Bobby Bones]

His D is 20?

[H]

Yeah.

[Dr. Pascal]

What do you think it should be?

[Bobby Bones]

Your D is 20. Your D is 20.

[Eddie]

And you said your libido was high.

[Bobby Bones]

That's a little D. That's a little

[Amy]

D. Okay, wait, I'm glad. Wait, somebody just said, like, we've been talking about this. Like, Eddie swears with his numbers that his libido's still high.

[Bobby Bones]

Is that possible? He's like, it's through the roof. He brags about it.

[Amy]

Is that possible?

[Lunchbox]

Doctor, I'm not lying.

[Bobby Bones]

With his little D, is there any way his libido.

[Dr. Pascal]

You know, it just depends. And a lot of things control libido, not just testosterone. So he could be very well.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Lunchbox]

Thank you, Doc.

[Bobby Bones]

So if he had.

[Dr. Pascal]

There's so many other benefits, though. I mean, you've just told me you no energy.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah, it's like peaks and valleys. Right? Like early in the morning, like you can't get out of bed. I Don't think I'm gonna make it through the day. Once I get to work, I feel good for about two hours then.

[Dr. Pascal]

How much coffee did you have before you get to work?

[Lunchbox]

I only do one cup. I don't do more than a cup. But it's every day, all day. It's up and down. So I hear what you're saying and I mean it makes sense now. My question for you though is what can I do on my everyday just activities to get this up? Like my vitamin D. I drive a jeep. Can I just keep the top down, take my shirt off and just get some sun on the way home?

[Dr. Pascal]

Sure you can.

[Bobby Bones]

Is that effective though? In a short term at all?

[Dr. Pascal]

It is. But long standing, no. You have to have direct sunlight.

[Lunchbox]

You have to take my shirt off.

[Bobby Bones]

Can I ask you a weird question? And I mean this, and I promise you it's gonna be a funny question, but I mean it. There was this thing going around where people would get naked and they would do their butthole in the sun.

[Amy]

Oh, perennial.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes. Is that a real thing? And does it work? And why the butthole?

[Dr. Pascal]

You know what, I'm not aware of that. I'm honest. So I really don't. I can't comment either way on that.

[Bobby Bones]

I feel you, I just.

[Dr. Pascal]

Have you heard of that?

[H]

I haven't heard of it. Yeah, but just the full body sun exposure, I feel like that's definitely helpful as opposed to being clothed, but.

[Bobby Bones]

But generally speaking, like you don't need the perineum.

[Dr. Pascal]

I don't know about that.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, white area, it's going to burn quickly too.

[Amy]

That area is called perineum.

[Dr. Pascal]

Perineum. Uh huh. It's actual word. Vaginal health is actually a word. If I can say that on YouTube. You can say that because it's all female anatomy.

[Amy]

Well, so should Eddie be on the protocol you gave me, which Megan is the one that put the pellet in my hip. Dr. Pascal figured out what the pellet needed to be composed of and then it was inserted. And then also I'm on a vitamin D weekly, so Eddie, you can just

[Dr. Pascal]

like vitamin D, especially as you're coming off the winter months. We don't get direct sun rays here. We're always inside. We're on our computer and I think more so almost everyone in America is vitamin D deficient. Why? Because we're indoor. More we're not getting direct rays. And then we're also sun blocking, which has its benefits. But you know, it takes a toll on you long term.

[Bobby Bones]

You would say Then for most people even listening that aren't like little D. Eddie, that you need to have vitamin D more. But we probably like, we don't drink enough water and we probably don't have enough vitamin D. Correct.

[Dr. Pascal]

But see you also need to have it monitored because you can get vitamin D toxicity also. So you really want to, you don't want to be 20. The lower limits of normal is 30, 30 to 100.

[Eddie]

Oh my goodness.

[Bobby Bones]

Dang, dude, you're below D. You're a

[Eddie]

little D and low key.

[Amy]

So what about going, what about going

[Lunchbox]

to the store and getting vitamin D vitamins?

[Dr. Pascal]

Well, that's another question. Mean. That's another concern because there are lots of supplements. They're not getting absorbed. So it mean like I've had tons of patients. Well, I'm taking D, I'm doing. And how many times that we had to prescribe like the mega dose and over every week, 50,000 units. One of the problems that we've seen is a lot of the supplements are not what it says. And D is a fat soluble vitamin, which means it doesn't absorb easily. The thing that I've seen in our American diet is we have so many what's called pro inflammatory foods that binds up to the D and you pass it on your stool so you're not getting it. Some people will swear I'm taking it every day for the last year. We check the levels and it's low. So it really needs to be paired with kids. And preferably vitamin A also increase the absorption. Or you can do a sublingual and bypass the gut totally. And that's really coming out from our diet is what we've seen.

[Bobby Bones]

What about like a multivitamin?

[Dr. Pascal]

Not enough. Not enough is usually like 200 IU units in there. It's measured in international units daily. We usually would recommend 5,000 to 10,000. What would it, Amy?

[Amy]

I'm on 50,000 once a week. I use once a week.

[Dr. Pascal]

Once a week.

[Bobby Bones]

But what is that? Are you taking a pill?

[Dr. Pascal]

I am taking a mega dose.

[Amy]

So I'm on a mega dose every Thursday. I take it same time Thursday morning. But then also I try to get outside with my limbs showing my arms, my legs for just five to 10 minutes during a peak. I don't want to stay longer than that because all my skin is, I don't want to damage my skin. But that's enough to.

[Dr. Pascal]

And that's, that's one of the concerns we see. You know, we know that sunlight and aging and the whole aging process.

[Bobby Bones]

Thanks you Said aging quietly. We appreciate that. We appreciate that.

[H]

Maturing.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, we appreciate that.

[Dr. Pascal]

Maturing, yes.

[Bobby Bones]

So what can Eddie do today?

[Eddie]

Squats.

[Lunchbox]

Can I do squats?

[Dr. Pascal]

Yeah, you can if you want. Yeah.

[Lunchbox]

Does that help with the testosterone?

[Dr. Pascal]

I don't think so. Now, if squats reduce your cortisol in an indirect way, it probably can. So, you know, to say straight out, no, squats is not. It's not going to do it well if it relaxes you. Because we do know there's a connection with cortisol and affecting the hypothalamic pituitary axis, which is causing releasing chemicals to make time. Testosterone. If I down easily.

[Bobby Bones]

So if someone relaxes.

[Dr. Pascal]

Too technical.

[Bobby Bones]

If someone relaxes more, yeah, that can help their testosterone.

[Amy]

Eddie always says he's stressed because of all the kids.

[Bobby Bones]

So should he get rid of the kids?

[Lunchbox]

That's it. Tell me, doctor.

[Dr. Pascal]

Not advisable. Not advisable. But if going to the gym and doing squats for, you know, 30 minutes a day, that might release it because he's by himself, relaxing, not necessarily going to the gym.

[Amy]

So, Megan, were you going to say something about the squats?

[H]

I mean, any kind of large muscle group activation like squats is going to increase your natural boost of testosterone, but I would say that it probably would not get you more into like an optimal level where you're going to notice that kind of difference.

[Dr. Pascal]

Correct.

[Bobby Bones]

So what does he do? What does Eddie do when he leaves this room that he can do to improve my life, to improve his testosterone?

[Dr. Pascal]

What is he willing to do?

[Bobby Bones]

No, that's the exact question he do you do?

[Dr. Pascal]

Yeah.

[Lunchbox]

I don't know.

[Dr. Pascal]

What is he willing to do? What's his time? What can he do?

[Lunchbox]

Honestly, what I want to do is I want a better quality of life. Right. Like, I do want to wake up and feel like I'm getting ready to take on the day. Right. I want to feel that way, but I don't want to necessarily put things in my body yet. I want to see what I can do naturally first.

[Bobby Bones]

So what would you say to him?

[Dr. Pascal]

Well, look at your diet.

[Lunchbox]

Pizza last night.

[Bobby Bones]

Eat more. What?

[H]

Protein is your best friend, okay. Always. It's not only cleaner, but it's making sure that you're diverting some protein to your muscle so that we're engaging in that testosterone boosting activity. But it's also like just keeping your overall skin healthier, your hair healthier. Protein is your best friend.

[Bobby Bones]

Eat less. What?

[Dr. Pascal]

Processed food. Okay, yes. This is the culprit is we're seeing more and more. It's the processed food that is changing the microbiome. Big long word in the gut that's affecting your natural innate bacteria that, you know, provides all the good, healthy stuff that you want.

[Lunchbox]

Dang. Yeah, that speaks loud. I mean, chips, right? Chips. Yeah, yeah, get rid of that stuff.

[Bobby Bones]

Chips. Pretty processed, man.

[Dr. Pascal]

Yeah, that's right.

[Lunchbox]

That's right.

[Dr. Pascal]

All the toxins on there, it's a

[Lunchbox]

part of my life. You know, I get home, hadn't eaten all day, I'm like, just give me a bag of chips and let me snack on that. It's part of my life.

[H]

And it's, it's easy. It's not like we're back in caveman days where we used to go hunt and find our food and eat it right? Then, like the process of processed foods just makes life easier, more convenient. So it's hard to get away from that.

[Dr. Pascal]

So the ultra processed food, also a lot of the foods have been lading with tons of sugars. I'm sure you guys have now seen we are zero sugar. Well, we have been inundated with so much sugar. And that's one of the reasons for the massive obesity and the GLPs. That's what they're doing. They're trying to give you back that bacteria that you once we're making. So it all connects. The gut, the hormones, the brain, it all connects.

[Bobby Bones]

When he says he doesn't want anything in his body, I feel like he's talking about testosterone replacement. And I don't feel like that's what you're doing at all with Amy. Like, you put a pellet in her, right? Like what's in the pellet.

[Dr. Pascal]

100% plant based, bioidentical. Or the other word would be isomolecular, the same chemical that's coming out of her ovary. Okay. Which was one of the big confusions the FDA had on hormone replacement. And what we've learned in the last 22, four years, when they put that warning that estrogen caused breast cancer, as doctors, we all, we were like, well, the study was flawed to begin with, but yet you had this overwhelming publication that went out everywhere, I think prematurely, but did not explain that there are many different kinds of estrogen. They ran that study on a synthetic estrogen. What we found out now, in the last 20 something years, women avoided estrogen eight times more likely to have Alzheimer's, Parkinson's and dementia. Increased risk for cardiac events and increase not only broken bones, but more hip replacement, more knee replacement.

[Amy]

Right. So I know a Lot of women had fear of breast cancer by doing any type of hormonal replacement. But the. When you said plant based for what's in my pellet, that's.

[Dr. Pascal]

It's 100 yam.

[Amy]

Yam.

[Bobby Bones]

Where is her pellet?

[Dr. Pascal]

Well, Amy will have to let you know that.

[Bobby Bones]

Amy, where is your pellet?

[Lunchbox]

Are you going to show us?

[Amy]

Well, Megan put it in.

[Bobby Bones]

No, you can just tell us.

[Amy]

I'm pretty sure it's right here.

[H]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

So do you have to do it like cut, slide it in?

[Dr. Pascal]

It's a little nick that we place it under. There are other ways to do the hormones. There are patches, there are creams. What we have found is the patches and creams, depending on metabolism, you may not get optimal doses. But yet some women prefer that. It's a more economical. Insurance pays for it. So you make a little slit, just a little nick. And we calculate precisely what Amy needs based on her weight. We have a big AI sort of which runs algorithm. Algorithm. It runs all the calculations for us. Looks at her weight, her height, bmi, her metabolism and look at some key numbers, how they would affect her. And then we come up with what she needs. We'll check her blood in six weeks after we place it and see where she peaks. And then that will slowly release for about four or five months.

[Amy]

And so I'll have to go back and get another pellet.

[Bobby Bones]

Could you put a pellet in Eddie? Yes, but not the same pellet. That's an Amy.

[Dr. Pascal]

Well, Eddie's going to be more testosterone and a higher level because men require more.

[Bobby Bones]

Would you do that?

[Lunchbox]

Is that still a yam?

[Dr. Pascal]

It's still a yam. 100% yam.

[Bobby Bones]

Why would you not do that?

[Amy]

Yeah, why would you not join me? We could go together.

[Lunchbox]

It's interesting.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, because it's not. I understand your fear.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Because you don't want to inject yourself with some testosterone replacement.

[Dr. Pascal]

We've talked and I understand that. And here's what you know. You have to look at how much has the cell phone advanced in 20 years? Well, just think about how much we have learned in 20 years while we practice misinformation or a misinterpreted data. So a lot has evolved with these yams, technology, processing all of this. I used to be a pharmacist and it hit me because I was so against them. The earlier pellets, we had tons of problems with them because they were bounded with a steroid. And we now know the steroid, synthetic steroid changes everything. And that was one of the big confusions. And when you read anything, you're listening. And people are just using this one word. Estrogen or testosterone. They're not telling you they're like five or six different synthetics, which changes what you're putting in your body. And so I understand. No, I don't want to do anything synthetic. What we're learning, the more you can mimic exactly what's coming out of your organs. Your body does not know that it's a synthetic because it's not. It's. The word I use is isomolecular. It is the same.

[Amy]

So you said. Mine mimics what's coming out of my ovaries, which Eddie doesn't have ovaries.

[Bobby Bones]

Debatable at this point. Debatable.

[Dr. Pascal]

He has a little estrogen going on here.

[Amy]

Okay, what's it mimicking coming from where?

[Dr. Pascal]

It'll be his is his gonads. His testes.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So, okay, I'll just use me. Since we're making fun of Eddie. If I. If I were to come in and get a pellet put in me.

[Dr. Pascal]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

That would be basically my body reacting to what it feels is natural inside of me.

[Dr. Pascal]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

And it would naturally produce whatever I was deficient in, which could be testosterone.

[Dr. Pascal]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Which is way different than, like, a TRT or any sort of replacement that someone.

[Dr. Pascal]

Well, a lot of the replacements that they may be using something. And I can't comment. Right. Megan. But we've seen that there's some of the. Some of the side effects that we take care of are due to a synthetic. And the pharmacy background is what? Automatically I went, wait a minute. People are really confused when they say the word T or testosterone. They're not realizing that there's so many. Cypionate, decanoate, enanthenate. They're all synthetic.

[Lunchbox]

Again, fake.

[Dr. Pascal]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Dumb guy term for me. Fake.

[Dr. Pascal]

It's fake. Yes, it's fake. Just like that study was done on Premarin, was on the urine of pregnant mares. Okay. You don't want another animal product.

[H]

Right.

[Dr. Pascal]

And that's why the body reacts differently.

[H]

Which is great with the pellets, though, because the pellets, not only are they bioidentical with the injections, they are synthetic. So you're having to do those once or twice a week just to maintain levels. But with the pellet, it's compressed powder, so they eventually dissolve over time. So with those, they're uptaken by the blood vessels that pass over the pellets over time. So it's cardiac output that is actually Helping to absorb those. And it's just a lot more consistent of a dose.

[Dr. Pascal]

What's interesting, imagine, like wet sand on a beach. Okay. So the powder is compressed. There's nothing holding it together. But think about wet sand. Eventually that wet sand washes off with the waves, gets into the ocean. And that's. That's a good analogy of how it gets into your bloodstream.

[Bobby Bones]

Would you do the pellet?

[Lunchbox]

Think about it.

[Bobby Bones]

You think about everything. I'm not even saying. I'm not making you commit. I'm saying, would you consider doing the pellet?

[Lunchbox]

It sounds like something I would definitely consider more than, you know, an injection. Injection, sure.

[Dr. Pascal]

Yeah. And this is the misconception a lot of folks have, because when you use that word, t, most folks are thinking, because that's what you're reading, all of the synthetic side effects. And that's one of the things we have to tell women also. No, you're not going to grow a beard. You're not going to.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, I thought that, like, if women got testosterone, they're going to grow a beard. I literally thought that.

[H]

Well, women don't get the degree of testosterone that men are getting. If they did that, we want a little bit. Yes, if we did.

[Bobby Bones]

If, like, you put 10 pellets in Amy on accident.

[Dr. Pascal]

Oh, Lord. That'd be a big accident. But no, it would not be an accident.

[Amy]

But that's why y' all wanted to. Six weeks after you monitor my blood. Yes. If it was too high, I. I could get facial hair. Correct. So it could happen. If she did.

[Dr. Pascal]

I. I know what to do and how to bring it down.

[Bobby Bones]

You guys make me want to pellet.

[Dr. Pascal]

Yeah, I know. Come on, Come on.

[Bobby Bones]

So it's just a small incision and it goes in.

[Dr. Pascal]

It's a tiny incision. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Did you bring any with you?

[Dr. Pascal]

You know, we should have, but it looks like a little tic tac.

[Lunchbox]

And how long does it last? You may have said this already, but

[Dr. Pascal]

how long does it for women, four or five months. For men, six even eight months longer.

[Eddie]

So four months for you, Eddie.

[Bobby Bones]

And aside from men are getting like

[H]

a bigger, like, diameter size of testosterone.

[Amy]

So like a big tic tac.

[Bobby Bones]

Like an acorn.

[H]

So, yeah, like a big tic tac.

[Amy]

Big tic tac. Yeah.

[Dr. Pascal]

Extra large.

[Lunchbox]

Amy, can you feel it, like, if you touch your.

[Amy]

No. Honestly, I try to. It freaked me out at first, so I really tried not to touch it. And now I can go back there a little bit and feel. But for the first couple weeks, I was so scared. I, like, didn't want to. I mean, I had to wear a band aid over it. I mean, it bled like. It's a real. Like, y'.

[Morgan]

All.

[Amy]

They had to numb me. It's a procedure, but I don't feel it now. And now I'm not scared to touch back there.

[Bobby Bones]

Did you guys ever see Amy's tail?

[H]

Her tail?

[Eddie]

She has a tail.

[Lunchbox]

She has a real tail.

[Amy]

Do you want to see it?

[Bobby Bones]

She has a. She's told us many times.

[Amy]

Well, Dr. P has seen everything.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, she can't say, though. She's locked up.

[Amy]

She's like, I can't.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, she's hipaed up.

[Dr. Pascal]

Amy can.

[Bobby Bones]

Amy claims she has a tail. Like, her bone goes down.

[Amy]

No, I don't. I. We call it a tail now, jokingly, but it's my tail bone. But it protrudes and it feel. Feels really weird.

[Bobby Bones]

Does that.

[Amy]

Have y' all ever noticed variation?

[Dr. Pascal]

Everyone has.

[Amy]

Do you want to feel it?

[Dr. Pascal]

Sure.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Wait. Has she not.

[Amy]

Well, she. She's not.

[Bobby Bones]

What do you want?

[Amy]

Part of a past.

[Bobby Bones]

What do you want from. What do you want from this, though?

[Dr. Pascal]

Well, just.

[Amy]

Has she. Is it normal?

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Dr. Pascal]

All right.

[Bobby Bones]

Come on, Amy. Bring your butt over there. Amy's gonna get her tail.

[Eddie]

So weird.

[Lunchbox]

All right, interesting.

[Bobby Bones]

The doctor is now feeling.

[Dr. Pascal]

It's a little sharp, Amy. Yeah. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So what does that mean for her?

[H]

I do.

[Bobby Bones]

Everybody's feeling. She's doing show and tell right now.

[Dr. Pascal]

Yeah, just a variation, right? It says variation. It's normal. There's.

[Amy]

You said it's a little sharp, like.

[Dr. Pascal]

Yeah, it's a little sharp. Variation. But that's not abnormal.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, why would it.

[H]

Because it's not bothering you?

[Amy]

I mean, sometimes when I sit too long, it does get a little. I'm like. I have to reposition or squish my cheeks together to give it some batting.

[Bobby Bones]

Sometimes when she gets excited, you see it wiggle.

[Amy]

Oh, my gosh. Stop.

[Bobby Bones]

No. Okay. Okay, Eddie, so what have you learned?

[Lunchbox]

A lot.

[Bobby Bones]

What have you learned, though, that you're gonna take from this room?

[Lunchbox]

I think one of the biggest things, the big takeaways, is that me and Amy have the same problem. Like, that's crazy to me, that Amy both. And we both have low T, and we're both deficient in vitamin D. Crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, but one.

[Morgan]

Well, that's a lot of people.

[Bobby Bones]

One leads.

[Dr. Pascal]

That's a lot of people.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. One leads to the other a bit, right?

[Amy]

Well, yeah. From what I understood from my recall when you first told me, you said you can do everything you want to build the testosterone to get it back, but if you don't have vitamin D, it's not going to happen. So, like, that has to happen in order for the testosterone to happen. But maybe to help Eddie feel a little bit more comfortable. You said you've worked with men, but you've inserted pellets into men.

[Dr. Pascal]

Yes. Okay. Yes, I have.

[Bobby Bones]

So you're going to.

[Dr. Pascal]

We've done quite a few, actually.

[Bobby Bones]

You're gonna get more sun.

[Lunchbox]

More sun. We're gonna work on more sun.

[Dr. Pascal]

Okay.

[Lunchbox]

And then we're gonna work on that diet. Yep. This is what I'm going to do. The work on the diet's very important because, yes, the gut seems like it's a problem. Work on that diet. Stay away from processed foods, get more sun. And then if we're not where I want to be, which is where do I want to be if I have a physical coming up in, like, two months?

[Dr. Pascal]

Eh.

[Lunchbox]

Is that not enough time?

[Dr. Pascal]

It's enough time. I don't know if your D usually will recheck it in three months to see.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah, maybe I push back, but we'll

[H]

still see some improvement at that point.

[Bobby Bones]

If there's no improvement, you think about the pellet.

[Lunchbox]

I'm gonna think about the pellet.

[Amy]

How consistent does he have to be with this, though?

[Bobby Bones]

Because he's not. He's Mr. Inconsistent.

[Lunchbox]

No, but now that I know it's serious.

[Bobby Bones]

You've said this a hundred times. About 100 things.

[Dr. Pascal]

But see that. You know, the thing about Eddie, what's going on now, this is not unusual, and I don't want to mention your age, but this is.

[Bobby Bones]

It's okay. He says it.

[Lunchbox]

I'm 47.

[Dr. Pascal]

Okay. This is very common. And I've men as young as 25 with low T. Whoa. Yes.

[Eddie]

Oh, that sucks.

[Dr. Pascal]

Yes, that sucks. Yeah. And this young man, the mother. Well, see, how these men come is their moms or their wives feel incredible. Then they start learning, and they recognize, like, can I bring my son in? He's being treated for depression right now, and I can't figure out what's going on. And he's not responding to any of the medications. Sure enough, his tea was like, 100.

[Bobby Bones]

So you're saying that a lot of people may not even think it's their t. It could be many other reasons, but in reality, like, they should check this fundamentally.

[Dr. Pascal]

They should check.

[Bobby Bones]

It could be their testosterone load that's affecting everything else about them.

[Dr. Pascal]

Correct.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, well, this has been good.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah. Very eye opening, for sure. It definitely explains too how I've been feeling and definitely now have a better understanding of why that's happening.

[Dr. Pascal]

And traditionally, you know, as women came in and one of the comments that I, you know, patients come in and unfortunately my gynecologist tells me that I'm not in menopause, I'm 35, and they just roll their eyes and send me out the room. And I thought, well, no, no, no, we need to look at all of it. No one was looking at testosterone for women. Sure enough, for women, it's like legs of a table. You need to have your testosterone in a normal range, your estrogen, progesterone. And for women also, we look at a little thyroid. Okay. Which can be affected by diet iron. And so when that's not, when that's not in line, you feel sort of wonky. The table's not balanced. And so even women that are still having periods, they could be off. And a lot of the reasons the vitamin D is off, the T's off, or if their iron's low, their thyroid might be borderline low and they're struggling with all the similar symptoms of menopause.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, you have some action items and you're gonna, for a couple days, say you're doing them, and then we're gonna check in again and you're gonna go like, oh, I kind of forgot. But if you want it to be better, you have got to do the work.

[H]

It's really like a whole lifestyle again. And that's hard to say. Like what you've been doing for the last life.

[Lunchbox]

Yes, Forever.

[H]

You have to change. You have to put all of this down and completely pick up.

[Dr. Pascal]

And if you want your life in the next, you've got kids, you're gonna have grandkids. One day you want to be able to not only be around, but active and mobile. We have 70 something year old women come in. I just want to have energy and be able to move and play with my grandkids.

[Amy]

Yeah, but you could do that now.

[Dr. Pascal]

You can do that now. So what you do now, you're gonna, you know, reap or you're gonna pay for it in the next five to ten years.

[H]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, Megan, thank you. Thank you, Dr. Paschal. Thank you very much.

[Dr. Pascal]

Thank you guys for having us on here.

[Bobby Bones]

I think this has been educational not just for Eddie, which was the reason we'll say acutely you came in. But I do think for a lot of listeners too, they are able to learn that there's much more to it than just I feel bad because of whatever simple solution they've been fed when it really is possibly something as fundamental as you're just not getting enough vitamin D. Like that could be one of the reasons. So we really appreciate you guys coming in. I think a lot of people learned a lot of things. And Amy, thanks for bringing your folks in and thanks for having me vulnerable with your tailbone.

[Lunchbox]

That meant a lot to us.

[Bobby Bones]

That'll do it for today's podcast. Thank you so much for listening. If you got a minute, go check out the Bear Grylls interview over on the Bobbycast, which you can watch on Netflix or you can listen on podcast wherever you get them. Alright, that's it. We will see you guys on Friday. Bye everybody. Living with a rare autoimmune condition brings uncertainty, but it can also create community in season six of Untold Stories Life with a severe autoimmune condition, they go beyond MG and cidp as host Martine Hackett welcomed stories from other conditions like myositis and IgAN into the conversation. Untold Stories is produced by Ruby Studio in partnership with Argenics. Listen to Untold Stories Life with a severe autoimmune condition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[H]

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[Lunchbox]

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