
When Jay was young, he thought that Boy George was a misunderstood cute girl. He also didn't realize that the black guys in their video were wearing blackface. | Jay tries to teach Bobby about Edward Sharpe and The Magnetic Zeros who had a hit song called "home." | Bobby tries to show that he can rap by spitting some rhymes off the top of his dome. | The Bonfire crew go around the room and tell how they are spending their holidays. *To hear the full show to go www.siriusxm.com/bonfire to learn more! FOLLOW THE CREW ON SOCIAL MEDIA: @thebonfiresxm @louisjohnson @christinemevans @bigjayoakerson @robertkellylive @louwitzkee @jjbwolf
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Robert Kelly
And now the bonfire with Big J.
Christine
Okerson and Robert Kelly. I. I never. I never put it together, man.
Robert Kelly
What?
Christine
That Boy George was your idol, and that's why you dress like him.
Robert Kelly
It's not my idol.
Christine
Well, I mean, you. You emulated. How's that, Boy George?
Robert Kelly
I don't want to wear big hats.
Jacob
You.
Christine
You. You would have.
Robert Kelly
I thought Boy George, despite the name that I never really paid much attention to, was a misunderstood, cute girl who had an interesting taste in makeup and that I would understand.
Christine
Boy George and Billy. Billy Bob dressed the same.
Robert Kelly
Meanwhile, turns out Boy George was a boy getting his asshole fucking blooming onion by everybody else in the band. Didn't culture cup keep falling apart because he kept sucking and fucking everybody in the band?
Christine
What is it now? They had to introduce this. The. The health club.
Robert Kelly
The.
Christine
The dolphin. What this? Is that like a gay. Why did they introduce that in the video?
Robert Kelly
What are they?
Isabel
Dalton Health Club, 1957.
Christine
Yeah. What is that? Is that like a gay health club? Maybe these little. Are these little gay Easter eggs that we missed.
Robert Kelly
Are they kicking him? Are they taking him to court? Whoa. Blackface in that video.
Isabel
I remember that.
Robert Kelly
Go back to that. That was crazy.
Isabel
Yeah, it's like a bunch of people in black and he's.
Christine
He's wearing a Jewish. Jewish shirt. Says a bunch of stuff in Jewish is so cool. What does it say?
Robert Kelly
He's wearing a Jewish shirt.
Christine
Jewish shirt.
Robert Kelly
And then shows people wearing blackface.
Christine
Jacob, what does that say?
Robert Kelly
Buy low, sell high. Damn, dude, he just had nothing but shirtless guys around. Them and I didn't see any of. I was like, oh, these guys all must want to shot at this cute. They must see what I see.
Christine
Were they going to throw him out and then he disappeared? Is that what happened?
Robert Kelly
Yeah. You can't get your hands on Boy George. He's an enigma.
Christine
That is. That is 100 blackface.
Robert Kelly
That's blackface all right. But they don't give Boy George. You know why?
Christine
Why?
Robert Kelly
Turns out he's not a misunderstood chick who needs me to save her and have sex with her. It's a boy.
Jacob
Yeah, it says culture.
Robert Kelly
The name's Boy George.
Christine
You didn't get. Yeah. Oh, my God. That is like, holy. That's like old time, 1800s blackface.
Robert Kelly
Yeah, they're really the fun one.
Christine
Yeah. Where they did the lips. White.
Robert Kelly
Yeah. Yeah. Ye. Wow.
Christine
I never.
Robert Kelly
Sal Jolson blackface.
Isabel
Very beginning too. Somewhere.
Robert Kelly
What's happened?
Isabel
You see it in the beginning too.
Robert Kelly
Can you look up if there's been any backlash? No. Over the blackface and the do you really want to hurt me video? Or is it the gay people that still watch this video, myself included, just go like, ooh, blackface. So tawdry. Ooh, that's tawdry right there.
Christine
A little video. Damn.
Robert Kelly
That blackface is brought to you by.
Christine
Terms and conditions apply. God, I don't even use my hands anymore.
Robert Kelly
Wow, you're getting great.
Christine
I mean, not even a one gesture. Just I use my finger. Did you know I just used my finger during. I'm down to my finger. I'm pointing it all in that little finger. My index.
Robert Kelly
Yeah, I do a lot of like internal hand motions, for sure. Oh, what's this? Yes, there was backlash and controversy over the use of blackface imagery in the original music video for Culture Club's hit song do you really want to hurt me? Particularly in the United States where there's black people. They could just put black people in it.
Christine
Why was it blackface? Was that a thing right here?
Robert Kelly
It's director's intention was the use of blackface was an artistic decision meant to stand up. Sorry. Send up bigotry and point out hypocrisy. The intention was to draw a parallel between racial prejudice and the homophobia and anti gay legislation that Boy George faced in the UK at the time. The actors under the makeup were reportedly black themselves. Lies. A choice intended to reinforce the state of the absurdity of judging others. That's not true. That's a good backpedal though, if you look at it. No, they are black.
Isabel
If you look at the people, though I did think that before. So I was like, is everybody black? Because it's like the dances are.
Christine
What do you call that? You call that double black face?
Robert Kelly
Double black face. Chocolate chocolate chip.
Isabel
So it was.
Robert Kelly
Chocolate chocolate chip.
Isabel
It was all removed in America. I don't remember it.
Christine
Oh, that's it. That's the.
Isabel
It was removed for MTV in the usa.
Robert Kelly
Well, I would have. I wouldn't have remembered. Anyway. It doesn't. Those are the things.
Christine
Are you too focused on his hair?
Robert Kelly
Yeah.
Christine
And his outfits.
Robert Kelly
I just wanted to take care of her. The thought of her. The thought of Boy George is still a her to me. I just wanted to take care of her and let her know that it's okay. You dress weird and silly and goofy hair. I get it.
Christine
I get it. Look at these gloves.
Robert Kelly
I know, Bobby. I was seven.
Christine
Dude, that picture of you and that. That Boy George outfit was pretty sassy. But remember that blouse you were wearing?
Robert Kelly
Oh, somebody. My friend John Amen from high school sent me a picture today of. I mean, when the was I born. It looks like it's a black and white photo. It is a black and white photo. Oh. Probably from a yearbook or something. This is a bowling. This is the intramural bowling teams. We didn't have sports.
Christine
Oh, my God.
Robert Kelly
I'll tell you what, though. The bowling teams, like, they brought at every white kid in the school, but there were still some black people on it, which I sent you to you. Christine.
Christine
How did you know that was not. How did you think that was a girl? Looks like John Cusack.
Robert Kelly
What?
Christine
That's a guy.
Robert Kelly
Look at that soft face.
Christine
It's not. It's a lot of makeup.
Robert Kelly
No, don't. Don't say that.
Christine
Are there any photos where he looks like a girl?
Robert Kelly
Yes, Everyone.
Christine
Maybe that hat. Maybe the hat one.
Robert Kelly
Then he became like an old bald guy with a goatee. But, I mean, come on. All right, that's not. That's not the Boy George that I thought I was gonna save.
Christine
That was your ultimate goal, that photo?
Robert Kelly
No, it's my goal picture.
Christine
Yeah, you should dress as Boy George.
Robert Kelly
No. Young Boy George. Look up. Young Boy George.
Isabel
I got it. I got the picture. Yeah.
Christine
Old Boy George looks like Paul Versey.
Robert Kelly
Yeah. Come on. Look at that showstopper. Look at that fucking showstopper of a face. Come on. Look at that picture in the middle.
Christine
Yeah, she does. Look at an Italian girl.
Robert Kelly
Come on. Right? You would, dude. You would. It'd be too late. You'd have in your mouth before you realized you'd fucking zig when you should have zagged.
Christine
I'm not saying this to be.
Robert Kelly
I'm not saying pouty face looks like Sinead o'. Garner.
Christine
It looks like you.
Robert Kelly
Stop it.
Christine
That photo. Go back to that photo that. Bring up the photo of Jay. Remember the one?
Robert Kelly
My sad face.
Christine
Just remember the sad. Remember the one with the kids? He was holding the baby.
Robert Kelly
I was putting on Boy George face.
Christine
Dude, you look exactly.
Robert Kelly
Oh, I thought. I didn't know you meant that. I thought you were talking about our pictures we took for serious. Where I have sad face.
Christine
No, your photo with your pink blouse on with the kids. Wow.
Robert Kelly
It's a pink. It's purple.
Christine
Okay.
Robert Kelly
You only got me say pink. It's a purple and yellow.
Christine
Okay.
Robert Kelly
Pimp colors.
Christine
That is your face.
Robert Kelly
Short sleeve.
Christine
That's your face in that photo.
Robert Kelly
Short sleeve thing.
Christine
You guys had so much in common.
Robert Kelly
Mean.
Christine
God, you put feathers in your hair. Wouldn't you?
Robert Kelly
Why is there a picture of nipples next to this on Facebook?
Christine
Because we were fucking searching up all kinds of shit.
Isabel
It says poshmark covers.
Robert Kelly
I think it's nipple covers of nipples.
Isabel
Yeah. See, they're like rhinestone.
Christine
Those are hot. You should get those, Christine.
Robert Kelly
I'll get them.
Christine
I meant for you.
Robert Kelly
You know, I like. You know, I like accessories. What would Boy George do? Can somebody give me a bracelet that says what would wwbg. Bgd. What would Boy George do?
Isabel
Where'd that picture just go?
Robert Kelly
Really? What'd you do? Why'd you rid of it? God, you hate Boy Jordan. Yeah.
Christine
Where was it?
Robert Kelly
Who's that? Is that Gina Brown?
Jacob
There it is.
Robert Kelly
There it is.
Christine
There, there's. There.
Robert Kelly
There's Jay on my shoulder. I should put more stuff.
Christine
Buddy, you got to put those on social media.
Robert Kelly
Why? You both that beautiful blue eyes.
Christine
You look exactly like. You look like bigger Boy George.
Robert Kelly
You got to take my. Take my siblings out of the picture.
Christine
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Lou
Lou's gone. You could kill him.
Robert Kelly
I'm a man.
Christine
Were you listening to Culture Club while you took that photo? That's why you're so sad.
Robert Kelly
Well, I wasn't listening close enough or else I would have heard Boy George tell me 15 song times in the song. I'm a man. I'm a man. I just went right in one ear out the other. I was deaf with love I was deaf with lust I'll come and go.
Christine
What was it? I thought they only had like three hit songs, but they had a lot.
Robert Kelly
Like five. Probably hits. Probably five.
Christine
Five hits.
Robert Kelly
As culture Club and then he had the Crying Game. Was it hit? Did he ever have like a real hit solo? I don't think so.
Christine
That was a big hit, didn't. It wasn't enough for an Oscar.
Robert Kelly
The Crying. Well, the movie.
Christine
I think the movie was. But wasn't the song too.
Robert Kelly
Song stinks.
Christine
No, I like that song.
Robert Kelly
I like putting lyrics to it. It's a very fun song to put lyrics to yourself. Oh, yeah. Jacob had sex with a guy because the Crying Game.
Christine
Talk about Paco's dad.
Robert Kelly
Paco's dad has poi and cock in the Crying Game. A palm tree up his shitter in the Crying Game first there are coconuts Banana in your butt. About the crying.
Christine
Talk about Lou.
Robert Kelly
I'm sorry, Paco. My butthole's full in the Crying Game.
Christine
Damn.
Robert Kelly
Boy George was a hot chick.
Christine
I always like to. You know the bands like that. I always like to hear one of their not hits. How bad? They must had like trash. Just trash. Right.
Robert Kelly
Sometimes SiriusXM will play a fucking deep cut like a Culture Club. It's never good.
Christine
Yeah. I've never heard any of their. I never got an album of theirs. I only heard their hits.
Robert Kelly
I will say there are people where it's like, the songs that I love the most are like, the SiriusXM is good for that. Sometimes they pull out one where you're like, oh, yeah. Like if I was going through the catalog of songs I had to pick for my favorite Tom Petty song. And I don't know what my favorite Tom Petty song is, but I forgot until not long ago. Woman in Love by Tom Petty. Because it just never comes up. You have to go find that song.
Christine
Yeah.
Robert Kelly
And serious success. I played it one day. Woman in Love. You gotta bring it on. I can't hit that one.
Christine
No, she crazy. Oh, yeah.
Robert Kelly
Okay.
Christine
No, that's a good song.
Robert Kelly
I like that.
Christine
But I. I wonder what.
Robert Kelly
Yeah, that chorus. Go back before the chorus kicks in when he lets you know. She's a woman in love.
Christine
Yeah, it's a great song.
Robert Kelly
Keep. Could somebody back up this?
Christine
Probably. This is his best song.
Robert Kelly
It's a great, great song.
Christine
Yeah, he really.
Robert Kelly
But you don't hear it a lot.
Jacob
This isn't.
Robert Kelly
This would never be considered one of it. This will play Free Falling. A thousand times before you'd hear this.
Jacob
Lot of.
Christine
A lot of passion in his voice on this one. When he hits that turkey.
Isabel
Yeah.
Christine
A lot of his songs are this.
Robert Kelly
Crazy.
Christine
One of the ugliest singers ever.
Robert Kelly
Oh, yeah. The guy looked dead for 40 years.
Christine
Yeah, Stevie Nick.
Robert Kelly
Still him.
Christine
Yeah.
Robert Kelly
Damn.
Christine
Stevie Nick's everybody. I know she's a climber.
Robert Kelly
I know what.
Isabel
She's fine.
Robert Kelly
Turn it up, Lou.
Isabel
She didn't need a.
Christine
She need a climb.
Robert Kelly
Oh, that's a good song.
Christine
Yeah. Stevie Nicks, these were her peers. Stevie was hoeing it up.
Robert Kelly
Yeah. She really was a pin cushion of celebrity.
Isabel
I know they said something about, I think, like, Lindsay coming to the house and her having to, like, hide in Tom Petty's house because. Yeah, she was there.
Robert Kelly
Him or something. Yeah, she had to hide. I think it was Jimmy Iovine or something. Went to Tom Petty's house and she was hiding in the closet or something like that.
Christine
The climbing hoe.
Robert Kelly
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Listen, I'll always tell you the most telling thing of her. Why that band broke up 55 times. Isn't just they all fucked each other and blah, blah, blah. When you. That video we always watched. 1977, Japan, Fleetwood Mac, full force. Lindsey Buckingham still has beard and afro. And then they start doing the. Go your own way. That's the end of the song. They just jam it out. Stevie Nicks goes right over, starts playing in her flowy dress, looking hot as ever. This is 70s Steven. Nick's gorgeous. Standing right in front of that fucking dyke face, Christy McVie, and just playing. I mean, right in front. I mean, stealing the thunder from her completely. She's playing tambourine. Christy McVie is over there wailing on that piano, really contributing to the song.
Christine
Because when she was young, she had to learn an instrument because of her face.
Robert Kelly
Right? And just look at Stevie Nicks. Just never leaves right in front of her, blocking her with her fucking sexy back in her negligee.
Isabel
She's standing behind her. Maybe she's trying to draw attention.
Robert Kelly
She's dominating her.
Christine
She's probably trying look. No, she probably had to talk. Nobody looks at me. I do a lot of the work. And she goes, I'll come stand by you. So at least the audience will know you're here.
Isabel
They're gonna look at you now because I'm behind you.
Robert Kelly
Yeah. They're gonna be like, oh, I thought that was a guy.
Christine
Yeah. Most people, like, who's that dude on the organ? He's really.
Robert Kelly
Now she's drawing so much. It's got the thing draped across her arm. She's stealing attention from her. Look at that.
Isabel
She's Stevie fucking Nicks, right?
Robert Kelly
And she's booing. Lindsay Buckingham's over there, fucking air fucking his guitar. He's having a ball. But she had to go over there and steal the other girl's moment. It's a real. It's. I'm telling you, I think it's a psychological thing.
Christine
I think it's a more of a. I think it's more of a. Hey, look at her for a minute. She's. She's nice too. If she never went over there, nobody would know that fucking muppet face was existed.
Robert Kelly
No, you would. Your eyes would go across the whole stage and eventually you'd see Lindsey Buckingham, him losing this.
Isabel
You see Mick Fleetwood from Lindsay.
Robert Kelly
You see MC Fleetwood killing it over there. Look at her, she's gorgeous. So hot. That side tips enough to smack it too.
Christine
Yeah, she's hot.
Robert Kelly
She had. She could have went in the back and drank a cup of coffee for the last seven minutes of this song. She's unnecessary in this song. At the end she plays tambourine and dominates. Christy McVeigh.
Christine
I think you got it backwards, dude. I think she's just trying to get a little love up there to that dude.
Robert Kelly
Oh, yeah, yeah. And then she. Her husband. Good call.
Christine
That's.
Robert Kelly
She's probably looking out for right before she sucked and her husband.
Christine
Didn't you go. Who else did she go? She went with. Who's the. What's his name?
Lou
Don Henley.
Christine
Don Henley. And she went with the other songwriter too.
Lou
Everybody she's ever worked with.
Robert Kelly
What was.
Christine
The guy's bald, but he was good looking. He was young. What's his name?
Lou
Jimmy Iovine.
Christine
No, the other guy.
Lou
That's another one you'll know.
Isabel
Joe Walsh, Don Henley.
Robert Kelly
Wed. Yeah, we're looking at drummers. Phil Collins.
Christine
Singer, songwriter, guy, solo dude.
Robert Kelly
James Taylor.
Christine
James Taylor. She. James Taylor too.
Robert Kelly
Yeah. She's a piece of.
Christine
She's a piece of.
Robert Kelly
Do you know this band? Edward Sharpen, the Magnetic Zeros. Do the song Home. I'm pretty sure this is relationships illegal. I think this. This guy, this hippie guy started a cult and he makes a retarded girl sing with him. However, I've recently followed some of this guy's on his own music. It's like a whole different. I don't know if it's a different vibe, but he's like cool by himself. This seems like culty weird, this song. But I've always loved this performance because this girl might be retard. She's a shaved head nimrod. And he just. When they talk, it almost sounds like he's talking to someone who's slow. Look at her face. Too facey to be normal. No, no one's that expressive?
Christine
Maybe she's deaf.
Robert Kelly
It's the opposite of Jacob.
Christine
She might be deaf. You know, deaf people are very facey, expressive. Whistle's good.
Robert Kelly
Of course, dude. Retarded people whistling.
Christine
Oh, they're all whistling together. It's more than one.
Robert Kelly
Yeah. That guy's got feathers in his hair also.
Christine
That's not his hair.
Robert Kelly
It might be his hair, actually.
Christine
Is he jizz in his hair? Like, what about Mary?
Isabel
I mean, he looks more slow than her.
Robert Kelly
He does until you see him. I think I played it for you.
Christine
He's touching her face like retarded people do.
Robert Kelly
Yeah, he's trying to see what she looks like. But there's a video of him doing, like, a song that I like of his by himself.
Isabel
I know I forget the name of the song.
Robert Kelly
Truth. Truth. But he seems so cool. It's in Philly at, like, a major festival or. It's so good.
Christine
She's getting a little crazy with her.
Robert Kelly
Oh, get to the part where they talk, please. Me and Josh always do this at Comedy Jam. And then I talk to him. I go, hey, dumb, dumb.
Christine
I saw a cooking show with all retarded guys. It was the most adorable thing I've ever seen on the Internet. They were just cutting bacon, complimenting each other. Oh, you do it good.
Robert Kelly
See, the way talk, it's too much. Here we go. Hey, stupid. It's like when they let, like, handicapped people out in, like, a yard to interact with each other.
Jacob
Wait, who is this?
Robert Kelly
Edward Sharp and the Magnetic Zeroes? By the way, his name's not Edward Sharp. No, his name is Alex Ebert. Ebert.
Christine
And George Boy wasn't a girl.
Robert Kelly
Can I tell you what you won't like? Can I tell you what you won't like? His name is Alex Ebert, and I've seen him listed as that, and I've liked this stuff. Sometimes, though, he just chooses to go by Alexander. Yick, Yick.
Isabel
That song Truth is 14 years old. Okay, it's like the same time.
Robert Kelly
No, no, I'm saying something about I don't think it's different than this.
Isabel
I'm saying I thought that was, like, what he was doing right now.
Robert Kelly
He looks like a cult. He looks like a cult figure in this and in that, he just seems like the coolest white dude. Like, this guy seems like a guy is, like, a problem. Like, he's like, the government's gonna get involved at some point.
Isabel
It does. The other. Yeah, the music videos, too.
Christine
I hate the way she's dancing.
Robert Kelly
The other thing, how much they're Enjoying this? No, it's in Phil. Oh, is it?
Isabel
Because this is.
Robert Kelly
No, it's in Philly.
Isabel
He looks like. I mean, he's wearing, like, a pirate.
Robert Kelly
That's not it. No, it's in Philly.
Christine
Isn't that the shirt in Seinfeld?
Robert Kelly
It might be. Yeah. It's right there. That's it.
Isabel
So it's listed as Edward's shirt.
Robert Kelly
Yeah, because it's probably their concert. But I think he does a solo song. Maybe just cut ahead to it a little bit. I mean, he's so cool here.
Isabel
I mean, he still looks like a cult leader. He has, like, a.
Robert Kelly
No, but he looks like a man bun. I know, but he looks like a young, like, guy who's just into this kind of. I don't know. It reads cooler.
Christine
He definitely smells 100.
Robert Kelly
Well, yeah.
Christine
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Robert Kelly
Don't really judge this song by this. I do love this song, but it's not.
Christine
You like this song?
Robert Kelly
It's not the song. This is. I do.
Christine
Is this the same.
Isabel
I do like this song.
Robert Kelly
Turn it up. Wait. It all kicks in. Truth.
Christine
Nope, don't like it. Is that Jamaica? What is he doing?
Robert Kelly
He's rapping, dude.
Christine
I don't like it. Why are these other people leaving?
Jacob
No way. He uses dc.
Robert Kelly
No one's leaving. No, no one's. No one's leaving.
Christine
First of all, he went on the crowd and nobody reached out.
Robert Kelly
Not only do they all start reaching out, he smokes weed with him. And then he gives the mic to a black guy who raps. It's awesome.
Christine
Dude, he had to have weed. He has to have a presence for them to touch him.
Robert Kelly
You hate. Bobby's full of haterade today.
Christine
No, I'm not. I just don't like. I don't think this guy is good.
Isabel
This is. I think he looks cool here.
Robert Kelly
Get away from that and let me get this black guy rapping.
Christine
Oh, God, this is so boring. I'd rather listen to Jacob sing Jingle Bells.
Isabel
Well, we all would rather.
Robert Kelly
Gary goes over to the black guy. Anybody here know how to rap? He says. And then it's just one black guy he gives the microphone to. There's one black guy. This folk festival, he found them. Anybody here know how to rap?
Christine
You don't use a plant, all right? You go out, you can go back.
Robert Kelly
It's so. Do you know how to rap? Hey, I found the one black person here. I mean, that is the whitest event. He found a black guy.
Christine
Just one.
Robert Kelly
Yeah. Philly supports their black people.
Christine
There's a bunch of other black people around him.
Robert Kelly
Yeah. Now he started rapping. It's like a beacon. Yo, is that black rap? Let's find him.
Christine
There's a black guy.
Robert Kelly
He's security.
Christine
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Robert Kelly
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Christine
I mean, it's a bunch of white people. They're gonna love it.
Robert Kelly
Exactly. Let me tell you something, my friend.
Christine
If that was black people, he'd get booed.
Robert Kelly
My rapping friend Dave, when we were growing up, Christine, you met him once, Armani Dave, man, he was. That's almost like the story of him. It's a little bit sad to some degree. Was like, he was really talented at rap. Very.
Christine
Yeah.
Robert Kelly
But he was surrounded almost at all times by a bunch of white dudes when we lived in South Jersey. And like it. You could see it, like, wearing it. I think it killed his confidence to go dominate in a very black world. Does that make sense? He was that good. So he became like a drum and bass. He became basically like an MC for, like, sort of a white for weddings. No, it's like EDM type like music that he would like MC over that, but it's a very white thing. So it was like an easier. He's great. He was so good. But like, yeah, I had him make an opportunity over when. Remember when Kevin was doing the Paper Soldiers? The Patrice's action to begin with. That movie? The Jay Z movie? There were Jay Z produced movie. Yeah, that when he first came up here, he was doing. I had Damon Dash that he was going to like. He would let. He would let me. Brought him up to like rap for him. And I told him to come and he was like, I can't. I got to work.
Jacob
Really?
Robert Kelly
I was like that. You take off work. And our friend was his boss and he was like, you could take off work. And he was like, ah, it's not right. I gotta make money and stuff, buddy. This might change your whole life.
Christine
Jesus.
Robert Kelly
And he didn't come. I stopped pushing it. I pushed for an hour. And then I was just. We were playing basketball. I remember going like, okay, man. I guess I'm like, all right.
Christine
You should have called me. I would have come up and just pretended I was him. Just play.
Robert Kelly
Just play his tapes and stare at him with your white face. Yeah, it's me. To all the kills in the 100 bar bills.
Jacob
Dude.
Christine
Yo, dude.
Robert Kelly
For real homies who ain't got no feelings. Dude.
Christine
They always do this too, at the beginning. Let me think of something.
Isabel
Yeah, yeah.
Christine
I need more minute. One more minute. Yeah, yeah, there it is. Play it a little louder. Yeah.
Isabel
Yeah.
Christine
I haven't. I don't got it yet. I'm rhyming it in my head. You don't know that it's coming. Hang on. One more minute. Yeah, one more second. I don't got it yet. That doesn't rhyme with orange. I can't think of something. Hang on. All right, here it is. We're getting it.
Robert Kelly
Any black people here? Anybody want to rap? Any black people here?
Christine
Yo, yo, Damon, what's up? We're almost there. Not there yet. I'm Bobby K and I'm on the mic. You think I mess around with dykes? I don't. I like the ho yos. I like the bolos. I like the bing bong toyos. I'm incorporated Katona, licking my own feet. That's why you don't get sleep. Cause you're thinking on me all day long. That's why I got a big song surrounded by fat and you can't see it. That's why you want to be it. I'm on the bonfire with Big J. That's why he dressed really gay when he was a kid. He loved Boy George. Thought it was a girl. Didn't know was a gorge. Had a big penis between that leg, and he wanted to suck it and beg for that dick in his mouth. I'm here to say that's why Big J's gay, huh?
Robert Kelly
Perfect. Smash your pass.
Christine
I would have passed. I mean, that is the greatest observation I've ever made in my life.
Robert Kelly
That's a good one. Smash your pass. We only have smash. Smash your pass. We only have 15 minutes left.
Christine
I can't wait to show Max. Uncle. Uncle Jay.
Robert Kelly
I want to know what's everybody doing for the holidays. What are your plans, Lou? Look at this white Lou.
Lou
I'm going to Atlantic City with my lady love.
Robert Kelly
Why? Are you guys gonna get toothless hooker or something?
Christine
No, I gotta say, last night, his brother came up to me. It's probably one of the greatest moments of my life. Last night, after the show, amazing show, he came up to me, and I. I forget he has a twin. I'm not around twins. So when he walked up, I was like, dude, great show. And he's like, no, no, no, no. I'm his bro. And I'm like, oh. I forget what twins look like. They're actually.
Robert Kelly
Well, how much they look like, particularly. He was outside getting it from, like, fans. Yeah. All day.
Isabel
It's.
Christine
It's fucking. It's magical.
Robert Kelly
Yeah.
Christine
How much he looks like his brother. It was I almost a joint with.
Robert Kelly
Will before the show.
Christine
He came up to me last night and said, you know, he was like, man, I just want to, you know, whatever. It was like, thank you. You know. You know, my brother's life has changed, and he's worked so hard, and he's a different person now, and he's made such great choices in life, and he was almost tearing up, like, so that's fun.
Robert Kelly
Smoked a joint with me.
Lou
Yeah.
Christine
Yeah.
Lou
But he was so definitely drunk from three sheets.
Christine
He was so proud of Lou. Yeah, he was. It was like, you know, when somebody means something, somebody says something. It's one thing, but somebody means it.
Robert Kelly
Yeah.
Christine
He was so proud of you, man. He was so, like, happy for you, man. It lit me up inside. It was, like, one of the best things, man.
Robert Kelly
So it must have killed him that you got hammered last night. Oh, it must have killed him.
Christine
No, he said. He goes, lou, you left. You took off with your girl last night. Yeah. Right. Because you would have been funneling with Jacob, calling him A. Oh, certainly.
Robert Kelly
You just should have had a beer bong. Right?
Lou
I know.
Robert Kelly
You're just going to Atlantic City. You get a gamble, you see some shows or something. What's the name?
Isabel
Shows.
Lou
Because of the holiday. She likes to gamble and she doesn't like the holidays, so.
Robert Kelly
Oh, so it's a good. Get the. Away from the holidays. That's right. Order a bunch of shitty food and just veg out.
Lou
Yep.
Robert Kelly
Yeah. Dude, how many days you going?
Isabel
2.
Lou
New Day Before Christmas Eve and Christmas.
Christine
Eve, where you stand. Borgata. Oh, nice.
Robert Kelly
So what are you doing on Christmas? Nothing.
Lou
I'm gonna go to my family and take her and drop her off. And next year we're going to the Sphere to see no Doubt.
Robert Kelly
You are? Yeah. For New Year's Eve?
Lou
No, for next year. That's just plans for Christmas for the.
Robert Kelly
Next year at some point.
Lou
Yeah. They're playing early spring.
Robert Kelly
Yeah. Not for actual Christmas.
Lou
No.
Robert Kelly
You're gonna see no Doubt the Sphere. They're playing a Sphere?
Christine
Yeah.
Robert Kelly
Why? Well, my concern about them is they don't have a catalog enough to really make you look that forward to the show.
Christine
Probably stack up the show with a bunch of people. Right.
Robert Kelly
Well, they just stopped. She stopped doing no Doubt pretty quick. Weirdly enough.
Lou
Has a bunch of hits.
Christine
Yeah, they have.
Isabel
I mean, Saturn, Tragic kingdom. After that, I kind of. But those two are like big.
Lou
Then there's the Asian. When she hung out with the Asians.
Christine
For a little while.
Robert Kelly
No, but some say. What's she gonna do her own stuff too? I don't think. I think it's no Doubt if it's just no Doubt. They still. I mean, I'm not saying they don't have enough music to fill a concert. I'm saying enough to like to make screens that people are gonna be super excited about for songs no one gives a fuck about. They're gonna get to some songs no one gives a fuck about.
Christine
That's probably gonna be good for them because you can just look up when they're singing those shit songs.
Robert Kelly
It's true.
Christine
And see all the magical stuff.
Robert Kelly
Metallica's gonna do it. I'll go see that tool. I go see that in a heartbeat, those two.
Christine
Did you see the video I sent? The Youngblood singing with your boy?
Lou
Youngblood singing with Eddie Vedder?
Robert Kelly
Yeah, Eddie Vedder. Giving him sucking his dick too. Young blood. You can see his going to his belly button.
Lou
Young blood sure does love to pose. I. I think I like him now because he's with Eddie Vedder, but he's.
Christine
A bit of a try. If I had that torso.
Robert Kelly
I think I'm liking him less. He does. He does a lot of Corey Feldman. Like legs together, like. Like evil tree poses or something.
Christine
I don't get it.
Robert Kelly
I don't like it. Stop making me look at your dick hair coming out of the top of your pants.
Christine
I would do that in five seconds.
Robert Kelly
I know you would. You love young blood.
Christine
I do love him. Look at him. I want to talk about if I.
Robert Kelly
Wish he was getting DSLs. Dude. Yeah, really get them DSLs to scroll your face.
Isabel
It's crazy.
Christine
Jacob, what are you doing?
Robert Kelly
I'm a Takashi 69 guy.
Christine
Jacob, what are you doing for Christmas? You going home?
Jacob
I'm going to Florida tomorrow.
Christine
You're going tomorrow? How long you staying? Two weeks.
Jacob
The whole. Until we have to come back.
Robert Kelly
Pull you from your mother's arms, pull you.
Christine
From that doll bed.
Robert Kelly
Jacob, you have to leave your mom. I don't want to.
Christine
What are you going to do while you're away? You're going to do some fishing?
Jacob
Yeah, going to fish. I'm going to try and kill some iguana and I got to try and get. Find my mom a dog.
Robert Kelly
You kill an iguana?
Christine
I saw a fun thing they on dog adoptions now. You know what they're doing? They put everybody in a room and whatever dog the person goes up to, that's their dog.
Robert Kelly
Wait, you mean whatever the person the dog goes up to?
Christine
Whatever person the dog goes up to.
Robert Kelly
Okay, I was going to say it's just like anything.
Christine
Is that what I said?
Robert Kelly
No, you said whatever person. You said whatever dog the person goes up to.
Christine
Whatever. Yeah, whatever. Whatever person the dog goes up to. So. Yeah, so you'll see this dog run out and go up to just one guy and just start loving him and licking his face and that's your dog.
Robert Kelly
Jacob, can I make a suggestion? I can make it easy for you. I have a friend who pulls, what do you call them, pit bulls out of fighting rings. They're very, very aggressive. But I think they're okay now. Like, they're probably happy. They're not doing dog food anymore. Would your mother like one of those dogs?
Jacob
Probably not gonna be good for.
Robert Kelly
Why? As long as she doesn't. If she doesn't. If she doesn't make like a fast move with her hand, she should be fine. Yeah.
Christine
Get a dog. Get. Get a little tiny teacup.
Jacob
I was gonna. I was trying to adopt a mini pinchers, which the dog we just lost.
Christine
Don't get that you can't get the same dog that she had.
Jacob
She wants the same breed.
Christine
My sister did the same thing. And it's the sucky part about that is you think it's gonna have the same personality and it doesn't. It's just a shit dog that looks like the old dog.
Robert Kelly
Piece of shit.
Isabel
Dogs are really cute, though.
Christine
I don't like them.
Jacob
I'm trying to.
Christine
That one's not bad.
Jacob
We have, yeah, T. Rex. We have one other dog who we took from my sister. And you know, T. Rex had his eyeballs removed.
Christine
So that one's still alive.
Jacob
Yeah, but he doesn't do well without another dog because he doesn't have any, like, circadian rhythm because he doesn't know if it's 3am or 3pm so he just starts barking at 4 in the morning.
Robert Kelly
Well, if it's 3am, he must be lonely. We'll catch you guys next year.
Jacob
It's a problem.
Christine
So you're gonna get a dog. You try to adopt a dog. You're going to buy it or adopt it?
Jacob
We've always adopted. But I can't find a mini pincher rescue.
Robert Kelly
Now I have another idea. I have a decommissioned bomb dog. Now, would you mother like to have this decommissioned BOB dog? It never smiles. It doesn't understand love. But it will tell your mother if there is explosives in or around the house.
Christine
Yeah, there. There it is right there.
Isabel
Lou says this is AI.
Christine
Is it? No. How do you know it's AI?
Jacob
This is like high school.
Robert Kelly
That is AI.
Jacob
When you're the girl goes to everyone but you.
Christine
That would suck if you were the only one that didn't get a dog.
Jacob
That's what I'm saying.
Christine
How. This is not AI.
Jacob
This would crush me.
Christine
It's not AI. That's not AI. How do you say that's AI?
Robert Kelly
I don't know. One of them looks AI.
Christine
I don't know.
Lou
I heard it on the Bennington Show.
Christine
Oh, dogs.
Robert Kelly
The dogs kind of look a little.
Lou
Dogs choose their owner. It's AI.
Christine
Oh, really?
Lou
Yeah.
Christine
You know, that's wild because I just.
Lou
That's.
Christine
I just.
Lou
That looks pretty AI.
Robert Kelly
Oh, this guy. This dog must want to inherit a house soon. Who the. What kind of dog would walk up to a decrepit old man?
Christine
Yeah.
Robert Kelly
Hey, you can't walk me.
Isabel
When you look it up, it comes up like how to spot AI videos.
Christine
Oh, really? Oh, that sucks. I thought that was the most heartwarming thing I saw today. That actually made me feel better.
Robert Kelly
Oh, people in the background did you see the.
Christine
The new. I'm telling you right now, actors are going to be gone.
Jacob
Yeah.
Christine
They just did the. AI Darth Vader. It's the best Darth Vader I've ever seen.
Robert Kelly
It's not that there's a whole bunch and I gotta say, I've watched a few because they're doing cool moments. They have like a Darth Vader finding out Luke Skywalker is his son from the emperor. And it's like all AI but it's like. Like they start the scene off. No, like everything you'd want to see. It's Darth Vader's chewed up fucking head. And then getting. But it's. It's Hayden Christensen, like, all chewed up.
Christine
They clean his body and they. He rips the. They're scrubbing his body.
Isabel
It.
Christine
It's so good. I will hope they make a movie like this, but it's gonna put actors out of business because you.
Jacob
You.
Christine
If you can make a whole movie where you. You. You can't. You can kind of tell, but not really. And it's awesome.
Robert Kelly
It's wild.
Christine
It's better than any Star wars movies they put out in the last 20 years. This little clip.
Robert Kelly
My Christmas. Thanks. No, no, no, no, no, no.
Christine
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What about OG Lou?
Robert Kelly
Oh, g. Lou's gone.
Christine
He's gone. All right, well, what about Christine? Yeah, this is.
Robert Kelly
Oh, it's not.
Christine
No, that's not it. That's not it.
Robert Kelly
That's what I saw, though.
Christine
No, no, no. Go to AI Darth Vader. It's young Darth Vader when he became Darth Vader. Right after. It's right after he was in the fucking volcano fire. No.
Robert Kelly
Go get it again. No, that's what I was thinking right there. That's what I saw. That's Darth Vader learns that Luke is a son. Look at that. How cool they did that.
Christine
No, it's young. It's how Darth Vader after the. Is that. That's it right there, I think. No, that. Is that it, Jacob? No, that's not it.
Jacob
I don't know, but these are all way better than any Disney put out.
Christine
Yeah, right there. Right there. The bottom one. The white one right there. This. Look at this. And it's. That looks real, man.
Robert Kelly
It does look. It's like pretty amazing.
Christine
Watch when his voice becomes Darth Vader. The only part I don't like about the AI is this thing coming up.
Robert Kelly
What's that?
Christine
I'll show you.
Robert Kelly
That little Chinese girl comes out and giggles in the corner or something. They always got to do put something stupid Japanese in it.
Christine
They go to clean his. Clean his scars like a fucking. They're cleaning his scars off with like a. Like a metal brush.
Robert Kelly
I love it.
Christine
This is the part he uses an old USB port. That's the part that got me. I was like, this isn't real. He used a. Us.
Robert Kelly
An old USB.
Christine
Yeah, like a. I am an iPhone 4.
Robert Kelly
Yeah.
Christine
It's like, you couldn't have been USB.
Jacob
C.
Robert Kelly
At least you could suspend this belief and go, maybe we never go from usbc. Maybe this is the last one officially. But nope.
Jacob
If you had a.
Christine
That looks real.
Robert Kelly
Or we're gonna find out that eventually in the future in a galaxy far away, we go back to regular usb. It was better.
Jacob
I never thought about. He has a charred penis.
Christine
Yeah, it's charred.
Robert Kelly
He has no.
Christine
He has no charred everything.
Robert Kelly
Yeah, that's why he's so pissed off. All you can do at that point is take over the space, the galaxy. Yeah, that's what's left. You can't even whack off.
Christine
How do you think you're gonna go to the dark side with a penis? You need a charred penis.
Robert Kelly
So cool. Yeah, they do.
Isabel
I think I should like, watch Star wars at some point now.
Robert Kelly
Bore the.
Christine
It would bore the. Out of you. But if they start making them like this. This is one guy on a computer, by the way.
Robert Kelly
You know?
Christine
Yeah.
Robert Kelly
Fred, you know what's funny? Yeah. You said it. I looked over you and you went, I don't know. I didn't even ask you yet. This is one guy on a computer. Really?
Christine
Well, it's not like what. My point is that it's a company. No, that's not a company. That's a dude who made that.
Jacob
You just prompt it. What the.
Christine
Yeah, just. He just prompts it.
Robert Kelly
But it's not that easy. I promise you. There's somebody.
Christine
Look, it's not. It's not. Not the stuff we are able to do with an app, but it's a guy on a computer who knows how to do this type of shit. You know what I mean? But it's not a. Think about the factory, the big. How many people and how much shit they did to make the last few Star wars. So many people.
Robert Kelly
25 minutes of credits.
Christine
It sucked and. It sucked. It wasn't even that good. This is amazing.
Robert Kelly
Well, here's the thing. You know what AI is going to do? It's going to say there's going. To a regular person not A regular person, but a person who understands the computer can make things. You want it so. Exactly. Before Hollywood has a chance to iron out the idea to how are we going to make a Spider man and Wolverine movie? Someone will just do it.
Christine
Yeah, but if you just.
Robert Kelly
That's what you don't have to wait for.
Christine
If you have a fan fan who knows how to do it, let him make it. It's going to be the best Star wars ever. But if you got a bunch of people you got to run by and make sure that you know this.
Robert Kelly
You know, I just want full on. I always want remakes, shot for shot remakes.
Christine
Remo, my dream. What's your dream?
Jacob
Was it the sequel to Aliens that I've always wanted? I will make.
Robert Kelly
That's called Alien 3.
Jacob
Yeah. And it's.
Robert Kelly
It already exists.
Jacob
Trash.
Robert Kelly
How dare you? Isn't Winona Ryder in that?
Jacob
No, that's four.
Christine
Oh, that one was good.
Jacob
I actually liked that one.
Robert Kelly
The Winona Ryder one.
Christine
That was all right. Jay, what are you doing for Christmas break, my friend? Besides working?
Robert Kelly
Yeah. I don't have Christmas break. Oh, off the. Off the bonfire. Yeah. Yeah. Go to my mom's.
Christine
Yeah.
Robert Kelly
Christmas Eve and that's it.
Christine
Are you gonna. You're gonna be home for Christmas day?
Robert Kelly
Yeah. Yeah.
Christine
What do you and Christine do on Christmas day? Do you guys wake up whenever. Do you have like. Like we.
Robert Kelly
We wanna wake up and ever give presents to each other. I mean, that's really it.
Isabel
Yeah.
Christine
Do you have breakfast? Like, is it scheduled a little bit or is it just.
Isabel
No. We used to, when Isabel was like, still little, we would go to Carla's Christmas morning and do that.
Christine
Like a tradition.
Isabel
Yeah. And now we. We do Christmas Eve.
Robert Kelly
Isabella goes. Isabelle will go with us to my mom's Christmas Eve. And then Christmas Day, she'll go to her mom's house and then have. Not Jewish Christmas.
Christine
Not Jewish. What's Jewish Christmas?
Isabel
I guess what we do.
Robert Kelly
Yeah, that's what I do. Jewish Christmas, it's better.
Isabel
But Christmas Eve is like, you know, it's the whole family. So it's a big. It's a big thing.
Christine
Yeah.
Robert Kelly
Yeah. My mom and everybody's like, it's all me at my mom's house.
Isabel
Right.
Robert Kelly
It'll be fun.
Isabel
We were thinking about having a Christmas party and she didn't get together.
Robert Kelly
She told me today that it's going to be catered by Shoprite Pastas and such. I just want you guys know where I come from. And by the way, I unironically went that sounds great. She was just like, pastas and Shoprite just has meatballs and everything. I went, yeah. Huh?
Jacob
I'll bet it'll be good.
Robert Kelly
I'm sure it's gonna be really good. Bobby Kelly is gonna be really good when you see him in Florida at McCurdy's.
Christine
Oh, no, no. It's okay. Let's end the show. Oh, no, it's all right.
Robert Kelly
You're going to Costa Rica to get your boy's penis cut off. I know what you're doing for Christmas. Merry Christmas, everybody. Bobby's gonna be at McCurdy's Comedy Theater in Sarasota, January 16th and 17th. After that, he's going to be in Poughkeepsie, New York. Comedy works south in Colorado and Batavia, Illinois. So much more on deck. For tickets and all those tour dates, go to punch up.live. robert Kelly. Make sure you check out his YouTube page. YouTube.com Robert Kelly comedy. And make sure you check him out every Tuesday night. 7pm The Fat Black Pussycat.
Christine
I won't be there for the next two week. It'll be Keith. So don't get disappointed.
Robert Kelly
So don't go see Keith. You don't want that.
Christine
I don't. Don't go see Keith.
Robert Kelly
For what?
Christine
I brought him up as Martin Lawrence a couple weeks ago.
Robert Kelly
Nice.
Christine
Oh, the crowd was. I heard what happened.
Robert Kelly
The sad thing about Martin Lawrence is it took him 25 minutes of Keith said to realize it wasn't Martin Lawrence. I don't think this is Martin. This is not Martin Lawrence. Right.
Christine
Jay's gonna be at the Irvine Improv this weekend through the 20th. Milwaukee Improv New Year's Eve for the whole weekend, and then he's. For all other tickets and tour dates, go to bigj comedy.com YouTube.com bigj okison he is my friend and I'm gonna miss you.
Robert Kelly
I'm gonna miss you, too. We'll see you guys in two weeks. Have a happy new year. Enjoy the Christmas show tomorrow. The holiday show. We saw it. Holiday show. Because I'm Jewish and black. Lou's black.
Christine
It's the Christmas show.
Robert Kelly
I mean, he's OG it's the Christmas show. It's the holiday show.
Christine
Christmas holiday. It's Jesus's birthday.
Robert Kelly
He was Jewish, though. Free Palestine. Go Birds.
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Episode: Boy George Face & The Magnetic Zeros
Date: December 25, 2025
In this lively and irreverent holiday episode, Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly (joined by regulars Christine, Isabel, Jacob, and Lou) riff on everything from Boy George’s androgynous image and 80s music video controversies to the quirky dynamics of Fleetwood Mac, the cultish energy of Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeros, and the state of modern AI in entertainment. Their trademark blend of sharp wit, nostalgia, and unfiltered honesty powers a loose, hilarious conversation that veers from guilty pleasures to personal stories of family, fandom, and failed musical ambitions.
On Boy George’s Androgyny:
Robert Kelly: “I thought Boy George was a misunderstood, cute girl who had an interesting taste in makeup and that I would understand.” (01:23)
On Culture Club’s Music Video:
Christine: “That is 100 blackface.”
Robert Kelly: “That's blackface all right. But they don't give Boy George—you know why? Turns out he's not a misunderstood chick who needs me to save her and have sex with her. It’s a boy.” (02:55–03:00)
On Fleetwood Mac Dynamics:
Robert Kelly: “Stevie Nicks… just playing tambourine...stealing the thunder from her [Christine McVie] completely.” (13:09)
On Edward Sharpe’s Cultish Vibe:
Robert Kelly: “He just chooses to go by Alexander. Yick, Yick.” (18:25)
Big Jay’s Realization:
Robert Kelly: “All you can do at that point is take over the space, the galaxy. Yeah, that's what's left. You can't even whack off.” (40:10)
The hosts and guests are blunt, sarcastic, often self-deprecating, and unafraid to cross into controversial or crass humor. Despite the raucousness, moments of genuine nostalgia and sentimentality peek through, especially around family traditions and friendships.
This episode is a prime entry point for listeners who enjoy comedy that is rapid-fire, topical, and unconcerned with polite boundaries, yet comforted by candid reflections on art, family, and the oddities of fame.