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The Bonfire with Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly
Corey's World Part 2 with Marcie Hume
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The guys loved this documentary so much, they are giving you part two of their interview with Marcie Hume, director of the new documentary "Corey Feldman vs The World." One reviewer said "It's an absolute masterpiece, hysterical and fascinating, he's a loon that needs to be cherished." That reviewer is Jacob Battat. | Bobby compares his time on a tour bus with Dane Cook to the struggles Corey had with his band. | Marcie remained nonjudgmental as she witnessed Corey trying to orchestrate threesome's with groupies and his girlfriends. "Corey Feldman vs The World" is streaming now on Apple TV or go to Coreyfilm.com! *To hear the full show to go www.siriusxm.com/bonfire to learn more! FOLLOW THE CREW ON SOCIAL MEDIA: @thebonfiresxm @louisjohnson @christinemevans @bigjayoakerson @robertkellylive @louwitzkee @jjbwolf
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Marcy Hume
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Bobby Kelly
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Marcy Hume
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Bobby Kelly
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Robert Kelly
Okerson and Robert Kelly. What's up? We're back. We're back. This is. This is great. You know, you have to watch this more than twice because there's stuff that you're not wrong. There's so many things that you miss because you're so into this one scene and then stuff happens so fast and there's so much packed into it, you know, Was there any. I have a question.
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Bobby Kelly
One hour and 37 short minutes.
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Robert Kelly
It goes by like 20 minutes. But was indeed, was there ever a time where. Because I know when you know, I.
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Marcy Hume
Already know the answer is going to be yes. Whatever you're about to say, I can't wait.
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Robert Kelly
Was there ever a time he asked.
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Bobby Kelly
You to get with me forever?
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Robert Kelly
Was there?
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Marcy Hume
You're a monster.
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Robert Kelly
Because we were talking off air about like the fame thing because, like, he does come from that where he was a little king, a little prince. Yeah, but fame is such a weird thing. I was saying, like, I had a. I shot. I went to LA for pilot season. I got a pilot and it was called Adrenaline Run. And it was Frank Lupa who. The guy who invented a team and Hunter years after.
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Bobby Kelly
And you always said you were the next Fred Dreier, but that's who played TV's Hunter.
- [02:05]
Robert Kelly
But here's. I know great facts.
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Marcy Hume
Thank you.
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Robert Kelly
He's full of them. But the thing, what happens with fame is that you go from a nobody to a somebody. I sat, I booked a gig. I remember they were giving me the numbers. It was like $9,000. Then it went to 15. I'm like, I don't Even understand this. And then I. I showed up on the day and I sat out on the curb because I. I didn't. And the. The lady was like, is there something wrong with your trailer? I was like, what? She was, that's your trailer. They had my.
- [02:37]
Marcy Hume
You didn't know what was going on.
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Robert Kelly
They had my name from the show in it. I didn't. I thought it was some guy named Gary or whatever my name was. So I was like, no, no. I was just smoking a cigarette. I went in and I was like, magical. But three days into having fame, I. In my brain, I went to. I remember we had a day off. I was walking in the mall, we're shooting a pilot, and I literally pulled my cap down cause I didn't want people to recognize me.
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Marcy Hume
It's a pilot no one has still ever seen.
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Robert Kelly
The only people that would have recognized me was the key grip, right? But. Hey, dude, it's Bobby Kelly.
- [03:07]
Bobby Kelly
We did a show together. It didn't get picked up. Hey, Bobby.
- [03:11]
Marcy Hume
Another pilot that's just in the trash can.
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Robert Kelly
So. I couldn't imagine having hit movie after hit movie being. Having that much fame and then to let that go, you know what I mean? Like that type of fame with you in a different way. You're different than other people. Even walking to the mall, I'm like, people are going, I had to walk incognito. I wasn't even. And I still haven't made it.
- [03:34]
Bobby Kelly
But isn't. What a Corey Feldman have, though, is like, he will never lose the. I mean, he's not going to have the. The girl screaming, teenage excitement of it. But all through his 20s, 30s, 40s, even 50, he goes to a mall, people know who he is. Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. And he might get some. I mean, he'll probably get more positive than negative even like. Like in regards to being that kind of famous. But when. What I think is interesting also we didn't talk about this yet is when your pockets aren't matching that. Because that was the other thing too. He's presenting a lifestyle. And this was. I didn't know this until I guess, really watching the documentary and seeing more even he's given inside of his home a little bit when they did the wife swap. I don't know if it was the same place. Jezebel told us they were evicted from places within the time that they were like doing the Angels project from places. But the house, while I know it's in the hills, it's pretty modest for what it is. I Mean, they're practicing in his living room. That's like a regular. Do you know what I mean? Because I said he doesn't have that Goonies money anymore. I'm sure that's a lot of. That's him being fucked over. Him spending frivolously, I'm sure, but. And also thinking maybe it's never going to end and then business dries up.
- [04:38]
Marcy Hume
But I think that, I mean, you know, I'm so with you. That's why, you know, really early on in the movie we talk about that or, you know, we put in him talking about being famous from the age of three. Cause I just don't think we could possibly wrap our heads around that and establishing your relationship with the world based on that. But I don't know, how do you learn to satisfy yourself and what you need then from the world to feel like, I'm good. I got this. You see him getting so much love, and I agree with you. I think he will always have tremendous love from people. You just see his face and you have this connection. I think people all over the world have this deep connection.
- [05:17]
Bobby Kelly
With Lost Boys is still in my top, like 10 movies legitimately. I watched it so much that I love it. I still think it's great. I think. And everything that he's in as a kid up into a teenager, he's great in.
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Marcy Hume
Yeah.
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Bobby Kelly
Like, he particularly is good.
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Robert Kelly
So I think is generational.
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Marcy Hume
Yeah. And Stand By Me. I just think there's a difference. There are different layers here. There's the emotional feedback from, you know, from a faceless, sort of essentially faceless audience. And then there's monetizing that and staying alive, which I don't. You know, that's another. That's kind of a classic mystery. Right? Like, people that go through a zenith of fame and then are in the no man's land.
- [05:57]
Robert Kelly
I mean, when I did that tour, we were on G5S. And then the end of the tour, I was in zone five and it hurt. Not having luggage space.
- [06:09]
Bobby Kelly
Have had that line. That's a great line.
- [06:12]
Robert Kelly
You know what I mean? Like, it. It hurt. Like, I remember waiting in this and like I was just walking on planes. I could have had a bag of heroin. I mean. And then I'm just waiting for get on this plane. And then I got like, my back. There wasn't room my. My overhead. And they had to check it at the gate. And yeah, I was just standing there and then I was just holding my tits, trying, you know, it was like, fuck, what a.
- [06:36]
Marcy Hume
At Least somebody was.
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Bobby Kelly
Listen, that does. That's a genuine thing, too. Like, it's like a bitchiness in yourself that you have to kind of fight. Because I've done that. Like, listen, now. Now, if I go to, like, a game or something, I want to go like a Sixers game or something. I'll take my daughter Christine or something, and we'll go and, like, I'll get good seats to the thing. And now if someone's like, hey, want to go to the game with me? And you go, and it's like, if we're in, like, the seats that they get afford, you're kind of like, no, it's great. You can't help but kind of have the thing. And you're like, but who the fuck am I? 85 to 90% of my life, I was in those same shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But then you kind of a thing like, we don't have to be here now. So, you know the things you thought were, like, the good upgrades when you were young, so. But he's. I said I didn't understand first class until I could afford it, you know, I mean, like, first class flying or anything. Yeah, he had that. That's just a life. Since he was a kid, he's never been different. So to go back to a thing where it's exactly. Now he's, like, waiting with, like, four girls in angel costumes to get on, like, zone one, like you said.
- [07:39]
Marcy Hume
I think we just learn what satiates us, and maybe we don't figure it out until the end of life, but you figure out, like, what do I actually need to feel like people love me enough or, you know, like, I'm good and, you know, I think we've learned from other people that it's not gonna be first class scenes. Like, we're not at the end of life, gonna be like, this is what I need to feel that I'm okay. But I. I do think it's. It's different for everybody, you know, But. But feeling like you're. You have that foundation in life that you're okay and seen and loved, whatever that is. But I do think fame messes with that in profound ways that you have to then work through as a different layer to really get to people that are.
- [08:20]
Robert Kelly
Or for real, or chase it, keep chasing it in any form. And I think I feel like that's what he's doing. He's trying to get back to where he was instead of kind of being where he is, you know, because if.
- [08:34]
Bobby Kelly
If he sat on money for a while, too. I feel like. Well, like you kind of like. I think he took. He was not acting for a pretty good chunk. Well, yeah.
- [08:42]
Marcy Hume
You're just making that up. It's so funny. Like, I think he sat on a pile of cash.
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Bobby Kelly
No, no, I'm sorry. Not sitting on a pile. But I'm saying I think. I think whatever he made, I think he made a decent amount of money. Is those. They're huge movies when he was a kid.
- [08:53]
Marcy Hume
Yeah, but remember how. Remember how he got emancipated and how that was all pretty messed up?
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Bobby Kelly
Yeah, but so. Exactly. Also, he starts. Have to spend tons of money, like, very young. So I'm saying. I think he put it probably like in his late teens, early 20s. He was probably kind of like, we're coasting, though. We're good. If you sit there, a couple million dollars left, even, like. But that goes.
- [09:12]
Marcy Hume
Yeah, I think I keep saying this, but I just think it was such a different time and such a life that we just can't, you know, we can't even begin to. I mean, there's so many different. I mean, I do think, you know, there have been shows out recently, too, about, you know, child stars and child actors that I think go a little bit around the more cliche story that's, you know, the kind of boring one that we all know. I think there's so many other corners to get into with that kind of stuff that we just, you know, we haven't even begun to.
- [09:41]
Robert Kelly
Well, the fact that, like, when you saw him, there's no ac. His shirt is dirty. He's got a dirty thumbnail.
- [09:49]
Bobby Kelly
That really stayed with Bobby. I don't know why. His fingernails were a lot.
- [09:52]
Robert Kelly
His fingernails. Like, dude, clean your fingernail. You're on camera. But it's like. But he's just a regular.
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Marcy Hume
He's just a regular dude on a bus. But. Yes, I hear you on.
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Robert Kelly
He's like a regular.
- [10:02]
Bobby Kelly
Well, you see him become like a regular, regular person dealing a regular thing, you know, the. The tires, but whatever. The thing is, on the bus, the. The ACs out and stuff.
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Marcy Hume
Yeah, that bus was tough. A star, man. If any. Oh, the bus driver, Wade is an absolute star. That scene just really.
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Bobby Kelly
While he's fixing something, he's like, I'm out of here pretty soon.
- [10:20]
Marcy Hume
Oh, I'm only here.
- [10:21]
Bobby Kelly
His girls beg me to stay. Like they didn't want him to leave, right?
- [10:25]
Marcy Hume
Oh, yeah. He. He developed a really close friendship with. With most of the girls.
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Robert Kelly
Well, that's The Mutiny I was talking about, like, I used to sit up the front with the bus driver all the time and he, he would just, he was like this and that. He would just be like, fuck this, I don't need to.
- [10:41]
Bobby Kelly
And I was being a smoker. I had the same thing when I was on tour with the rock bands. Comedy smoke.
- [10:46]
Robert Kelly
I was smoking.
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Bobby Kelly
I'd go up the front and just smoke with the driver all night.
- [10:49]
Marcy Hume
Nice.
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Bobby Kelly
And he'll tell you, it's like, yeah, that pyro guy that's back there for, you know, whatever band is like, what a piece of shit.
- [10:56]
Marcy Hume
Think about the behavior that they see. Like they have their own, they have their own realm of behavior that they see, which is like people that are on the road and have the fantasy of the bus. Which I have to say, you know, I've been lucky through documentary making to be in a lot of realms, you know, a lot of like bluefin tuna fishermen and ranchers. This was like, there is no fantasy for me ever of a rock tour bus. I was like, this is not.
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Robert Kelly
Well, with the stall, you'd have a good time.
- [11:24]
Marcy Hume
All right, I'm sure that's. Yeah, let that fantasy live.
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Robert Kelly
You're going to bed by 11:30. He's going to be on the bus by yourself.
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Marcy Hume
I was like dumping footage and like transcoding footage because back then that was something you had to do.
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Robert Kelly
Our post driver got mad because we weren't dirty enough. He's a rock and roll. He's like, you guys get on, have tuna fish sandwiches and play video games. You fucking pussy.
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Marcy Hume
Tuna fish sandwiches. That's. That is inappropriate.
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Robert Kelly
It wasn't my thing. Jay Davis had to make Dane's tuna fish every night. He was the, he was the number one danger.
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Bobby Kelly
Swear to God. That's true.
- [11:58]
Robert Kelly
I swear to God.
- [11:59]
Bobby Kelly
Swear to God that.
- [12:00]
Robert Kelly
Swear to God. On the bus, Davis, you had egg salad. I didn't, I didn't anything. I, I would sit there and be like, you're making his. I fucked with him. I felt bad about this after.
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Bobby Kelly
You should have felt.
- [12:11]
Robert Kelly
I go, you're making his tuna.
- [12:13]
Bobby Kelly
He should have gotten some self respect and be like, I'm not making your tune.
- [12:16]
Robert Kelly
But Jay was, Jay was so into. He was the new guy. So he was. He drank the Kool Aid. He was like, this is, I'm this.
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Bobby Kelly
Beginning of the beginning.
- [12:25]
Robert Kelly
You know me. Gary had just come off of. Of last comic stand. He didn't want to do the fucking thing. He was sick of being on this tour type shit. I was Just like they sold me a bill of goods. Like, this is our tour. Your name's on the. This is four of us equally. And then I realized, oh, this is. This is not. I am. I'm in a bunk.
- [12:45]
Bobby Kelly
You're dangerous.
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Robert Kelly
I remember the back. The back room was supposed to be like a hangout for all of us. And then last minute, it just turned to his suite. It was a lot of things that happened.
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Marcy Hume
I think people have. All of us have a fantasy about what something is going to be. And I think sometimes people believe that.
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Bobby Kelly
You being on a bus now, you can see. It's funny. I got. I lucked out. My first bus thing ever. Ever. It was just like a week or a week and a half. Davitel. It was me, Davitel. Joe Derosa, tour manager, bus driver. That's it. And the second one, I did the whole summer with the rock tour. First one was a small venue tour with Korn. So that was four of us on a bus. That's great. Yeah. Then I went on the Mayhem Fest with all the bands, and I was on a 12 person bus. And that's when you see where bus living. Like, oh, no, this sucks. Actually pretty bad. It's the sleeping.
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Robert Kelly
I actually went to the crew bus one time. I was like, I'm just going over there because it was too much. There was too much going on, you know, I was like, I'll just. The crew was like, come stay with us. We'll, you know.
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Bobby Kelly
No. If you could pick your exact perfect, like, situation for tour busing would be unbelievable. But it's never that.
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Robert Kelly
But every day that we would wake up to cameras, go to bed to, you know, there was cameras on us all the time, which was there a moment. I know there was moments on ours that were edited out. There was a lot of edited out.
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Marcy Hume
As opposed to just streaming it live.
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Robert Kelly
What do you mean? Well, because it was. It was meant to prop him up. So whatever. Whatever stuff looked bad.
- [14:09]
Bobby Kelly
Difficult and yet still, like, moments, though, like I said, he allowed himself. He did. If he had full cover.
- [14:13]
Robert Kelly
No, he did.
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Bobby Kelly
He let himself. Like, he showed Dane Cook on that show. Does show us. I mean, we have drops because it makes us late. Like, he's. He has bitchy, like, moments where he's the star and it's kind of like.
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Marcy Hume
So he has.
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Bobby Kelly
You guys are ruining my fun.
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Marcy Hume
Is that what you're saying? He had creative control over it.
- [14:24]
Robert Kelly
100.
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Marcy Hume
I mean, that's so boring. I mean, I just think that's what is.
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Bobby Kelly
You make it then you make like a fluff piece. Yeah, right.
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Marcy Hume
Well, I just don't know who wants to see? I mean, I'm sure it's. I'm sorry, I haven't seen it. I don't know if it's great. I'm saying just in Prince, in principle, the idea, like, imagine if we made something about ourselves. It just feels like.
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Robert Kelly
Well, the original thing was supposed to be a documentary and then they made into a night, so they had to add a story arc. They had to make me the antagonize. You know, this guy's that. Dane's the leader. They give us names.
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Bobby Kelly
It was weird.
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Robert Kelly
But what you did, the thing is, is like there was moments where the camera guys, J. Davis, Tuna maker, the.
- [15:01]
Bobby Kelly
The general, the cat, Bobby, tuna eater.
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Robert Kelly
He sounds really. I couldn't, I couldn't have. Danes, you couldn't touch Dane's tuna. Yeah, but did you touch my tuna? But the question, the question is, is like, did you ever have moments where he confronted you where you had. Whether not in the documentary where he was like, what do you like, were you maybe on the Angels too much or you get. You're making. It wasn't about him where you had to have like he kind of snapped at you because he, he's yelling at people on the phone like he's famous back in the day. He's screaming. And I learned, you know, you can't talk to people that way. Cause they will tell you to go fuck yourself at some point even if they're making something for you. And there was, there was moments where camera guys were like, what the fuck? You know, and people had to be talked to. Were there moments where he was like, get out of my face. Or where you had like an altercation with him creatively?
- [15:51]
Marcy Hume
I didn't have any altercations. I mean, I went with what, you know, if he said stop filming, I stopped filming. I didn't push back. And I remember a documentary friend of mine saying like, why don't you, why don't you push back more?
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Bobby Kelly
Right?
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Marcy Hume
And I was like. Because he would have probably booted me off. Like, I wasn't trying to be, you know, I don't know, I just wasn't trying to be rude or confrontational. I was just, I was just trying to be there and be as, you know, non obtrusive, like a fly on the wall as possible. Yeah.
- [16:21]
Robert Kelly
So you had no, There was no things with you that you had with him where he. Cause he seems to go after everybody every. You know, people like that to Me always have a. They'll go from you to you. Now you're my friend. I'm mad at them. And then I'll talk to you about that one. It seems they go, this person has this and that. And, you know, like, was there ever. You never had a problem with him at all?
- [16:41]
Marcy Hume
I mean, I. I think there were times if I wanted to, you know, leave and go off, I think, you know, he would say, like, can you stay so that we are all together? And, you know, you don't set an example of just taking off. Because I was doing my own thing. I mean, I would, you know, come into tour and stay for a week or whatever and then. And then go off, right? I wasn't there 100% of the time.
- [17:02]
Bobby Kelly
He just throws a halo on your head and goes, I'll see you in two hours. That's his apple tag.
- [17:08]
Robert Kelly
There's a base.
- [17:09]
Bobby Kelly
That's his air tag. All right, Marcy, before you go, put that on your head real quick. Get out of here.
- [17:15]
Marcy Hume
But no, I mean, he was actually tremendously, I would say, respectful of what I was doing. So I don't know if that's, you know, because he saw me as, you know, he revered what I was doing or if, I don't know, it went well, I think from that point of view. And I was really grateful for, you know, he would stay in communication with me about, you know, what was happening or where I needed to be. And that was especially really great when things were happening in New York. Cause he was genuinely, really scared sometimes. You know, I mean, he was you know, really, really in a state where he was not. He was feeling self protective. And so I felt really, I guess, honored in a way to still be there and be along for that ride.
- [18:02]
Bobby Kelly
Well, he says. And that's the time when he almost says, like, that's why we have to do this now. Because, like. But the documentary, he says, like, in it, he's like, this is why it's important to do this now, because all these things are coming out. But I mean, there is definitely. I mean, like, you know, and you show it and it's gonna be. But, like, he doesn't have a great. He doesn't really have a great rebuttal to, like, either say the names or not and then asking for the money. That's what I thought was. I'm surprised he thought that would fly, because I remember the first. And I think Matt Lauer makes the same mistake that I made, that everybody made. You go, oh, wow. He's trying to get money together to make this document.
- [18:38]
Robert Kelly
Oh, I thought you were gonna say you had a button that locked the door in your office.
- [18:41]
Bobby Kelly
No, no, no. But we did both say at the time. He goes, I would like to have that. It's nothing to do with attacking women. It would just be like, wouldn't it be easier not to get up? Oh, thank God. But now it's like, it's the most evil when someone says. He goes, it locks women in the room. I go, oh, it does sound evil when you say it like that. I thought it was just lazy. I'm just too lazy to lock a door. But I guess I'm also imprisoning people in my office, I suppose. But yeah, he says Matt Lauer when he kind of calls him on it, I think, like, you know, why would you say. And then he says, it's a documentary. He's like, no, I want to make a feature film. So it's like. And he ended up, they didn't make a feature film. They made the Lifetime movie, and then he made the documentary, I guess. But, like, I don't think he sees, like, two steps ahead of, like, what you're asking for. No, it's why it has to be a feature film. He goes, so you're saying some of this $10 million is to hire the right casting director to sit down? And it's like, tell me why you're the raped Corey Haim. Some actor has to be like, I'm so and so with caa and like, that process, being involved in something that seems like it's pretty important to get the news if you have the information and you're willing to say. You whistleblow to say, like, but you have to let me make it a coloring book. It's like, always some, like, weird, like, project $10 million, do a Instagram live video and be like, this guy did this to me inappropriately. And I know it's not as maybe simple as that, but, I mean, it certainly isn't a. You know, we have to. Where's our location scout on the Corey Haim Lucas rape? It's like, it doesn't. It seems like a crazy thing to bring up such a serious subject. You make it laughable.
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Robert Kelly
$10 million is a lot of money for a documentary, too.
- [20:23]
Bobby Kelly
But it wasn't documentary.
- [20:24]
Robert Kelly
I think Mission Impossible 2 was only $10 million, I'm pretty sure. So he needed that number to be hit to make. Were you gonna be part of that? Does he talk to you about being part of that film that he Was making.
- [20:37]
Marcy Hume
No, I was not part of it. The only thing I did was I did a favor for him. I went and filmed a little bit. He was genuinely scared, I think. And I went and did a little bit of filming for him just so that he could have a little bit of footage from that time, which I, you know, gave him a couple of clips for him to have and that I think he used in his documentary.
- [21:06]
Bobby Kelly
You were a fly on the wall, by the way, because as somebody who lived here in New York as long as you did, I mean, we all watched him eat some pretty bunk ass pizza through New York. The pizza. I'm like, where the did they go? Yeah, that looks a terrible cardboard pizza.
- [21:22]
Robert Kelly
Well, it's all day pizza.
- [21:24]
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [21:25]
Marcy Hume
In the hotel room.
- [21:26]
Bobby Kelly
Well, don't know when they went to the pizza place.
- [21:28]
Marcy Hume
Oh, yeah, the pizza place.
- [21:29]
Bobby Kelly
I'm like, that looks like a bad piece of pizza for New York City.
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Marcy Hume
Oh, I thought it was. It looked good.
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Bobby Kelly
Yeah.
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Marcy Hume
You thought it looked bad.
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Bobby Kelly
It was so flat and hard.
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Marcy Hume
I love that. I thought it was such a great, iconic New York thing. Like, what else are you gonna do.
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Bobby Kelly
Except get pizza while you try to.
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Marcy Hume
Plan how to survive in New York? I think it was a great documentary. Like, you know, you're planning like the core moment of your life and you're in a New York. What else are you going to do?
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Robert Kelly
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Marcy Hume
I don't remember what I mean, you know, he definitely was. Because he was. He was freaked out. He definitely got that, you know, arranged so that he would feel safe. I don't remember when the. What the boundaries were, you know, what the. What the terms were. But you know, that was part of the deal. So he would feel. Feel safe to do it and talk about it.
- [26:43]
Bobby Kelly
Well, that's also. I'm gonna ask because the editing we have the.
- [26:46]
Robert Kelly
The director and filmmaker of Corey Feldman's new documentary on. We should probably tell people who just absolutely got it.
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Bobby Kelly
Make sure you check it out. Corey film.
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Robert Kelly
Yeah. Is here. Graced us.
- [26:58]
Bobby Kelly
I bought it twice by the way.
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Robert Kelly
I mean.
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Marcy Hume
You bought it twice?
- [27:01]
Bobby Kelly
Twice.
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Robert Kelly
Yeah. You should. You should. You need to watch it more. You need to own it because you need to go back through it.
- [27:07]
Bobby Kelly
Don't rent it.
- [27:08]
Robert Kelly
Do not rent. You need to own it and you need to go back through it because you'll watch this over and over again. Because I missed so much. Thank God I watched it with him. Who's the ultimate guy to watch this stuff with because he was. I was missing so much stuff. And he'd go, go back, go back, back. And then he put the closed caption on which the greatest. The greatest part was when he. The guy with the.
- [27:28]
Bobby Kelly
The comic con book.
- [27:29]
Robert Kelly
The comic con book was. I missed it completely when he's walking.
- [27:33]
Bobby Kelly
Because you said what it sort of looks like. Which is interesting in talking to you. You're not sure yourself but like because he walks up and it looks like he stops almost to sign something for a guy asking to sign something. And then he doesn't. And Bobby had the reaction everyone had at first two where it was. I didn't hear it at first either, but it was on closed caption. I just didn't happen to see it. And it was caught And I was like. And you said it. You go, ah, it's fucked up. He's walking away, like, just, you won't sign the guy's book. And then it's like, no, go back and watch the thing. He says, buy my Comic Con book.
- [28:03]
Robert Kelly
Right?
- [28:03]
Bobby Kelly
You gotta buy my Comic Con book. That's so funny.
- [28:06]
Robert Kelly
I thought it was that he wouldn't sign it because he was too popular.
- [28:09]
Bobby Kelly
He stops.
- [28:10]
Marcy Hume
That is the moment where the doctor tells him, you know, you have all these people asking for a piece of you and they need something from you and you've got to focus on yourself. And it is probably my greatest lament of this movie that our editor had this cover of man in the Mirror in there. Like a rock cover of man in the Mirror that was so incredible. And of course, in scraping this all together, we could not afford anything like that whatsoever. So we really lost something in that moment. But that's the moment where the doctor says that to him and he's, you know. So it's kind of this moment of like, all right, you know, this kind of self reflection moment as dictated by the medical community. So I think that moment just reflects it really well. And then the shot, one of the shots after that where, you know, he's. The angels are kind of together behind him and he's standing outside the circle and thinking about how to move forward. I. I think that little sequence is.
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Bobby Kelly
No, that's all. I was surprised by how much. I think it's when he's singing Cry little sister. And like, so you see Jezebel. And I think he. Men are both just kind of looking at each other with like a. Like, they always kind of laugh at the thing I said before. It's like there's. There's like an enjoyment to it that could be had that he could be taking part in.
- [29:28]
Marcy Hume
Yeah.
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Bobby Kelly
Instead of like, I think he's finding that joy on stage. And then it's like he spends his lifetime listening to people like, tell him he's ridiculous versus, like, if he was a little more like tongue in cheek about, like I said, not even the point to go. Don't just pull the microphone away every time and act like that's what you're. That's the vocal motion you're supposed to do when you're trying to hit a note you can't hit. It's like point A. Hey, guys, I need a lot of you. How much? Again, it's not knowing how to ingratiate to be like, guys, I'm thinking on a pretty Big one here. Cry little sister. He goes, I'm gonna need your help on this one. You know, throw it out to them like. And they'll play along because they're really. You can make the thing. You're there to see the spectacle of Corey Feldman and also child movie star, who you love from things. Corey Feldman. And this is this thing he does. I don't think anybody goes to like, you know, man, Keanu Reeves, like, sure, the Matrix is good, man, but have you seen Dog Star or whatever? His dumb. Like, his dumb, you know, I mean, it's like no one really gives a shit about that band either. Because he doesn't. He doesn't make it. Like we're out there making music that's going to like change things. He's just like, no, it's fun. I like playing guitar and I'm going to go out there and play guitar. He's not like, we're stars. We need to. We're looking for a record deal. He goes, it's fun. We get to play at the Viper Room three times a year and go out there and I would 100% see.
- [30:40]
Robert Kelly
Steven Seagal play anything and put on a southern accent.
- [30:47]
Marcy Hume
But of course you also draw more attention. I mean, you know, just to state the absolute. Like, you know, 13 year olds logic. Obvious. You draw more attention to something if somebody's making fun of you or whatever and you're like mad about it or whatever, you just put attention on them.
- [31:01]
Bobby Kelly
Right, Right.
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Marcy Hume
And I'm just so with you on this. Cause I want him to embrace everything that's going on. And in one sense, I think he does. In the sense that he always is just going and going and moving forward. But I think embracing it on all levels, right? Embracing the fact that there are people that, you know, I do think you guys are a great example. Like you love him so much and you're always gonna, you know, make fun of him a little bit and laugh and whatever. But at the core, like you, I see the sparkle in your eyes sitting in front of me that you just love him and would just. Just be so happy if he were here.
- [31:38]
Bobby Kelly
Do you know, was it a line in the movie or did we just say it? Christine, we were watching with Bobby having dinner the other night. I think I said the words. I go, he's an icon, undeniably. Oh yeah, you can't even change that. That's a. That is good use of the term. Better, good, bad or worse. He's an icon, without a doubt. I mean, the guy like defy he spreads over generations of people who know he is. He certainly is.
- [32:01]
Robert Kelly
If he could embrace it a little bit, he would sell so many tickets. If he could just embrace what we see and be honest with us and have those moments of, you know, well.
- [32:13]
Bobby Kelly
Bobby, you're looking over the fact that he hasn't done the overseas part of the tour yet and then where he's gonna swing back through the US and then do a much bigger US Tour. It you see, we only got to the. We only got to the local stateside part. We went overseas to bring it back around.
- [32:30]
Robert Kelly
How many years has it been?
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Bobby Kelly
It's been a while. It's been a little bit. He's done several tours since we have a such great like merch from him. We've bought albums. And I said, we've given like we give to the cause for sure. We're here for it. And I said, I really do. Like I said, I do believe he is an icon. And I said, what's interesting, why I feel that way too is. And we've said this from the get go we started talking about on the show 10 years ago, was that always if he comes in the room, undeniably with any phase of him, the stupid lock on the front, who am I to judge? I wear fingerless gloves. He wears gloveless fingers. You loved it. He just wears the fingers. If he walked into a room and I was there, if he came onto the radio show or anything else, I would just be like, whoa, man, that's cool. Still have that star feeling of like, whoa, dude, that's Corey Feldman's here. Goonies and Gremlins and everything.
- [33:30]
Robert Kelly
When we saw him at Loserville, we watched him and, and then we watched Limp Bizkit and we left when he was done.
- [33:38]
Bobby Kelly
We hung out, we milled around.
- [33:41]
Robert Kelly
He and, and he brought it and it was so fun and exciting and such a good time. And we, we tried to hang in with the other bands, but we were like, let's get out of here. They would, you know, it was just. It wasn't the same thing. And then of course when Limp Biscuit came out, but I would have just saw him and left. Oh yeah, they were so they. I feel like Corey gave a better, more entertaining performance.
- [34:04]
Bobby Kelly
If the band saw something funny even, you know what I mean? Like just some kind of tongue in cheek thing. He'd get the same gigs, more people would show up. Some people would come see my new.
- [34:14]
Robert Kelly
Band, Fruit Loops, just whatever.
- [34:16]
Bobby Kelly
But I'm saying, yeah, something like that. You notice the idea, it's like, you know, our new single, like, trying to figure it out, what genre. Almost like a weird owl, like, take on it. You know what I mean? Like, just have something. It's like, I'm gonna come because the songs are covers.
- [34:29]
Robert Kelly
Yeah.
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Bobby Kelly
I mean, but I said, that lady, you captured her, she's such an underlying, like, star of the thing for me, because she's the. Again, where you do want him to get, like, at least a little, like, nudge of, like, come on, man. Like, the world doesn't hate your guts and they don't.
- [34:45]
Marcy Hume
Oh, the family.
- [34:46]
Bobby Kelly
And they don't. And they don't love you the way you want to be loved. Do you know what I mean? It's like they don't hate you can.
- [34:52]
Marcy Hume
Be true at once. And I think that is what is really. I think some people, you know, I've noticed this with. Especially with this movie, because this movie holds a lot of things at once, right? There are a lot of, you know, some. Some things in this world are very black and white and some things are not. And some things coexist. Right. And you know, that particular.
- [35:13]
Bobby Kelly
Well, Lou just happens to be black, but we don't call him Black Lou anymore.
- [35:16]
Robert Kelly
No, he's formally black.
- [35:20]
Bobby Kelly
But that's why Jacob's here.
- [35:21]
Robert Kelly
Yeah, that's the widest. Jacob, like being back on the Johnny's Paco DJ loop.
- [35:28]
Marcy Hume
But I, you know. Madam, do you. You guys have your own special, special bus like, environment here?
- [35:33]
Bobby Kelly
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Can I ask. Because I didn't get to. I didn't watch any of the Q&As. There were some of them on YouTube. What's the state of mind of the. The angels with eight years of reflection now?
- [35:45]
Marcy Hume
I think it's different for everybody. I mean, it was. It was very exciting to show the movie to them. They didn' until the premiere. And so that was very trusting of them. And they were very tough and brave to trust us to do that. So most of them came to the premiere and they've all been really positive about it. I think this movie is really different. It's not in any way, like, I was just about the sort of middle ground of things. You know, you have a very funny romp and you kind of understand all this about what Cory has dealt with in life and what he's trying to do. And then you also hear from the perspectives of some of the folks that were on the tour and you get their views of some things that are very dark and all of that is there. It's all there. And it's. The film does not make a decree of what is going on. And it leaves it there for you to reconcile and figure out what you think is going on and what's happening with the power dynamics and where fame plays into things, what else might be going on. There's terminology that the women use in the film that you sort of figure out what you think, what your determination is based on, what you see. The women that were there at the Q A said that they felt like it was a good representation of the tour, even though obviously not, you know, it's not near to everything could be included in an hour and 37.
- [37:21]
Robert Kelly
Because people who love Corey are going to watch this and be like, oh, what a hard thing he went through. Everybody gets to watch this in their own perspective because you did not put a. This is what it is. You let it all hang out. So if they love Corey, they'd be like, wow, what a hard tour. That sucks for him. Oh, my God, he's going through this. That's so you can have your own, you know, view of what this was. Yes to how you see Corey.
- [37:47]
Marcy Hume
Right.
- [37:48]
Robert Kelly
You know, and the haters are going to hate it, whatever, and think it's. But the people like us, I think, like, you see it the way we see it, where it's like, this stuff is, you know, crazy stuff. Here it is. And, you know, we love it. You know, you can't not love this movie. You can't not watch it and be like, that was 100% entertaining in. In all its, you know, whatever you think of him, you're gonna watch this and. And be entertained by it, you know.
- [38:14]
Bobby Kelly
Oh, yeah, you could draw a different bunch of different conclusions from it, for sure. They said it definitely gets like, you know, I've been curious. Are you curious even? And if you're in touch with Courtney at all, like, is she gonna come out with something? Because they said, you know, I heard him interviewed with his new, I guess we'll say, girlfriend Adrian Sky. And they were on Tori Spelling's podcast. Tori Spelling did no research. She just interviews. Pretty funny how she goes. But they're like. He tried to get her to talk because he goes, well, I'm going through a pretty messy divorce right now. And Tori Spelling, she's like, yeah, yeah. So when this girl. And it was just like, he want. You can see, he kind of wanted to say maybe take a shot at her or something. I don't know how good that's going at all. But, like, you know, for her, like, where the documentary ended. I know it says, like, they make the phone call, and you hear he tells Darcy that they split, but they, like, you know, she seems, like, pretty down for it, like, the whole time. You know, I mean, like, she seems like she's there for it until she's not. So did you know her in the time, Like, I mean, where she. Like, when she left, did you, like, speak to her ever, like, beyond that?
- [39:23]
Marcy Hume
I did not. No. I. You know, when Corey kind of stopped being in touch with me, I decided to kind of not be in touch with anybody from that world. It just felt like the right thing to do, to sort of, I don't know, just make a break from that whole world. So that when the movie was done, you know, it was just kind of done for everybody. It just felt like the fair thing to do. And. But, you know, it was obviously very fascinating to know that she. You know, when I got that news that she left, I was very surprised because they were incredibly enmeshed, and they seemed incredibly, you know, in love and tied together. And, you know, obviously, we've all watched people go through relationship changes, but that one, definitely, I was surprised.
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Bobby Kelly
Well, I think they show some breaks. Or the documentary. You show some breaks in it. I don't even know if it's on purpose. The coffee got me. What was that? You kept the lid on. How am I supposed to drink this next week? Yeah, well, I mean, she would stick up for herself in those moments, it seemed like. But it's not just that. Just like, more like she's got a point. Yeah, it wasn't wrong there. No, but she seemed like, again, it's that very, like, you know, like, the people, like, the swingers and stuff like that, like, the lifestyle people, like, he has that, like, pitch of it, which it comes off, like, so, you know, I'm not a. A prude about anything like that at all, but just, like, it seems like she's standing there a little bit while he's like, wait here. God, you're so beautiful. You should come with us on the bus for a little bit. Well, it's only two hours away. We'll send you. I mean, we could probably get you an Uber home if you. Now you're spending two days on a. But just these weird things that she's probably, like. And I just have to know from, like, you know, even, like, years with Christine, that there's something that would be Christine over my shoulder going like, no, no, no. Like, we're gonna hang for. We can hang For a couple hours now. But you're not taking a weekend trip with us. What the. Christine's ain't even proved about it, but it's like saying like, she would be like, yeah, we could hang with this girl for a little bit. We're not going to a fucking. We're not going to a fucking. Taking her on tour with us for two days. That's crazy.
- [41:32]
Marcy Hume
It was funny, though, watching that and just like the judgment on it as you're watching and going like, I don't think there's any way to do this and not be creepy. I was like, I think anytime anybody looking in at a couple trying to have sex with a woman, like, it's going to come off as kind of creepy.
- [41:44]
Bobby Kelly
No, Christine, not when you were drinking and you were the scout. That was the best. Once you stop drinking, I can't scout because then you're that guy doing that. Oh, you two girls would look so pretty. I'm like, nah, dude, there's no way. I don't have it in me. I don't have it in me.
- [41:58]
Marcy Hume
I didn't. You're gonna think I'm nuts when I say this, but I didn't have really any judgment about that at the time. I mean, I probably because I was. And had just.
- [42:08]
Bobby Kelly
He got you.
- [42:09]
Marcy Hume
Stop it. No, but I just been filming every day. I'd been getting some wings. I'd been. I'd been at a tuna salad sandwich stack. This room is very small.
- [42:22]
Bobby Kelly
It's getting to make her tuna salad sandwiches, though.
- [42:25]
Marcy Hume
You know, when I. I'd been filming all day, every day, and then I'd film the shows, which, you know, is probably unnecessary because, as you know, there's not very much in there. But I just was. Was filming and filming and he had a lot of fans that would. Would come up to him and people that would talk. So it's not like I didn't, you know, I thought it was entertaining as I was filming and I thought it was compelling and I thought, you know. But I didn't see it through the same lens as I did after the fact and as I had, you know, interviewed more, you know, done more talking with the women and, you know, on camera and all that kind of stuff. So it, you know, this stuff transforms as you see it, you know, as your own experience with it progressed through.
- [43:05]
Bobby Kelly
So any kind of argument, like, when someone's having something and, like, you only know a person, you know, it's the blind belief in is the person you're with. So exactly when he's like this person said these terrible things, but you, you're going to have an immediate kind of thing, like, well, I'm with you. So, like, what's. You're saying this person's wrong. What are you saying about, you know, you kind of get wrapped up in it, too.
- [43:23]
Robert Kelly
Yeah.
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Bobby Kelly
I could talk to you for three more hours. Yeah, I mean, we have to.
- [43:28]
Robert Kelly
You got to go see the document. You got to buy it, watch it, and spread the word.
- [43:32]
Marcy Hume
Thanks, guys.
- [43:32]
Robert Kelly
About this doc. Marcy Hume is here. Corey Feldman, Verse the World, available now@coreyfilm.com make sure you check it out.
- [43:40]
Bobby Kelly
See it again for the first time. It's like E.T. yeah, it's timeless. It's gonna be my Christmas story.
- [43:47]
Marcy Hume
I wanted to read Jacob's text to the group after he saw it. Please. I say this with absolutely no hyperbole. Corey Feldman versus the World is an absolute masterpiece. It's one of the best films I've seen in the last 20 years. Every scene is hysterical and fascinating at the same time. There isn't a single dull moment to be had. He's a loon. That should be cherished.
- [44:06]
Robert Kelly
You should use that.
- [44:07]
Marcy Hume
That's beautiful.
- [44:08]
Robert Kelly
You should put that into the documentary.
- [44:10]
Bobby Kelly
Truer words.
- [44:11]
Marcy Hume
We'll update the film.
- [44:12]
Bobby Kelly
Truer words. Marcy, thank you so much for being with us.
- [44:15]
Marcy Hume
Thanks, guys.
- [44:15]
Bobby Kelly
That was our whole show, everybody. We will be not. We're off tomorrow because we're filming our holiday show. We have a holiday show.
- [44:22]
Robert Kelly
Village Underground. Sold out, right?
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Marcy Hume
Yeah. Well, Liz opened up a couple more tickets because I got rid of some guest lists that I was holding. So there are some available right now.
- [44:30]
Robert Kelly
There you go. If you want to come down, get those tickets right now.
- [44:33]
Bobby Kelly
Couple extra tickets available. I'll be in Irvine weekend, Milwaukee, New Year's Eve. Bobby's gonna be on the road out in Sarasota in January.
- [44:40]
Robert Kelly
January ain't doing nothing. Going to Costa Rica. So you guys.
- [44:44]
Bobby Kelly
Hell, yeah, film that pilot and. Oh, bye.
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Robert Kelly
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