Corey's World with Marcie Hume

Summary

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The Bonfire w/ Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly

Episode: “Corey’s World” with Marcie Hume

Date: December 23, 2025

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Podcast Overview

In this episode, Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly dive deep into the new documentary Corey Feldman vs. The World with its director, Marcie Hume. The conversation explores celebrity culture, the complexities of Corey Feldman’s self-made universe, and the behind-the-scenes realities of chronicling one of pop culture’s most idiosyncratic figures. With Hume’s insight and the hosts’ comedic candor, the episode offers both levity and genuine reflection on fame, fandom, and the ambiguous boundary between admiration and mockery.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Origins of the Documentary and Hume’s Approach

[12:12–14:58]

• Marcie Hume shares how she became fascinated by Corey Feldman, initially through his viral Ascension Millennium video and the “Cory’s Angels” concept.
  • “There is a visceral feeling that you get in seeing Corey perform and do his thing. I’d give it a 10 out of 10.” — Marcie Hume [15:43]
• Hume started by making a TV sizzle reel, which Feldman loved, but could not sell it as a show. Persistence led to documentary access, starting at Feldman’s wedding.

2. The Paradox of Feldman's Public Persona

[13:31–19:50]

• The hosts and Hume analyze Feldman’s need for control and theatricality—directing every moment of his life, even at his wedding.
  • “He seems like he’s conducting every second of his life.” — Robert Kelly [13:31]
• The group grapples with Feldman’s sensitivity to mockery and his struggle to transition from protected 1980s/90s fame to today’s unfiltered social media landscape.
  • “He takes all the shit and soaks that in. That makes him even crazier to somehow prove people wrong.” — Kelly [24:16]
  • “I think there is a way to come together in those worlds, even though there may be no room for nuance.” — Hume [15:19]

3. Fandom & the Attraction to Feldman’s Shows

[19:08–21:35]

• Hume and the hosts distinguish between irony-driven fans, genuine supporters, and those who arrive to hate, but end up enthralled.
  • “There are true Corey fans… people that love the irony of it… and tons who come to hate and get shifted.” — Hume [20:42]
• The authentic, chaotic experience of a live Feldman show is likened to a spectrum—from touching to laugh-out-loud absurd.

4. Exploring the ‘Corey’s Angels’ Dynamic

[32:03–38:52]

• Discussion of the all-female band/joined lifestyle concept, challenges faced by the women, and the power dynamics in Feldman’s world.
  • “He’s always kind of going, ‘Now I need you to go skittiddly bitty bally white’… It’s a crazy thing.” — Oakerson [33:13]
  • Riffs on comparisons to Michael Jackson’s creative process, except Feldman’s “musicians” are often inexperienced newcomers.
• The directors (and the hosts) voice sympathy for “the Angels,” who often see the arrangement as an opportunity but quickly realize the strains.

5. Child Star Trauma and Hollywood Abuse

[40:46–43:48]

• Candid discussion about Feldman’s prolific storytelling regarding victimization in Hollywood, and the way the documentary portrays both real trauma and Feldman’s approach to that narrative.
  • “He keeps telling every detail of Corey Haim's stuff. He gives nothing about himself.” — Oakerson [41:43]
  • Hume: “That whole realm is infinitely complex… extraordinary deep emotion that none of us are ever going to understand or get to.” [42:31]

6. Fame Then vs. Now

[44:48–45:52]

• The group laughs and laments over how fame used to shelter its stars, creating an alternate reality—one Feldman seems stuck in even as culture moves on.
  • “When you have that for so long, you’ll try to find it on a smaller scale… and he was finding it with these girls.” — Kelly [44:12]

7. Documentary Technique & Narrative Decisions

[39:04–40:46; 51:43–54:00]

• Hume reflects on her role as a documentarian, capturing not just the farcical, but also the raw, fraught humanity of Feldman and those in his orbit.
  • “Every moment of it… just has all of these things in it… depth, absurdity, something funny and sad in every moment.” — Hume [40:04]
• Acknowledges selective camera presence and how her choices as editor and director shaped the audience’s understanding.

8. Favorite Moments & Revelations

[51:28–56:28]

• Hume and guests recall personal favorites from the film and production:
  • The revelatory experience of the women (“Angels”) looking back; the empowering journeys of participants like Darcy; the emergence of talent in figures like Ximena Jimenez being “a shredder.”
  • “Jimena just shreds. She’s just incredible. Still out there doing her thing.” — Hume [56:00]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "I think you have a deep…appreciation. And so, I believe there is a way to come together in those worlds, even though there may be no room for nuance." — Marcie Hume [15:19]
• "You want to see him play guitar knowing he doesn’t know how to play the guitar." — Oakerson [20:40]
• "He just takes all the shit and soaks that in. That makes him even crazier to somehow prove people wrong." — Robert Kelly [24:16]
• “If you change anything, he’s not him.” — Oakerson [21:32]
• “Every moment of it… depth, absurdity, something funny and sad in every moment.” — Hume [40:04]

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Noteworthy Episode Segments & Timestamps

• [03:46] — Introduction: Landing Marcie Hume as the episode’s main guest
• [11:20] — First impressions of the documentary; Jay and Bobby's personal reactions
• [13:31] — Feldman’s need for control at his own wedding
• [15:43] — Marcie Hume describes her emotional draw to Feldman
• [20:42] — Breakdown of Feldman’s diverse fanbase
• [21:32] — The paradox of wanting to “fix” Feldman while realizing his quirks make him unique
• [32:03] — The on-tour reality for Feldman’s “Angels”
• [40:46] — Analysis of Feldman’s Hollywood abuse disclosures
• [44:12] — Discussion of “lost” fame and building a new reality
• [56:00] — Highlights from the closing moments, focusing on transformation, talent, and growth among “the Angels”

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Tone & Language

Throughout, the episode maintains The Bonfire’s signature blend of blunt, playful humor and directness, with frequent roasts and affectionate ribbing, but also moments of surprising empathy, especially in Hume’s measured insights. The show oscillates rapidly between laughter, behind-the-scenes revelations, and sharp, sometimes poignant observations about fractured fame and survival in show business.

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Summary Takeaways

• Corey Feldman vs. The World is a documentary that blurs the line between mockery and fascination, holding a mirror to both Feldman and the culture that made—and continues to scrutinize—him.
• Marcie Hume’s approach gives space for both absurdity and empathy: her view is sometimes critical but never cruel.
• Feldman’s celebrity is described as equal parts performance art, psychological car crash, and a microcosm of celebrity obsession—making for a roller-coaster subject that the hosts and guest dissect with humor and curiosity.
• The stories of Feldman’s band and “Angels” serve as a potent micro-study for how charisma, hope, opportunism, and cult-of-personality culture play out on a human scale.

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For those who missed it, this episode is a fascinating (and very funny) long-form conversation that peels back the layers of Corey Feldman and the documentary chronicling his “world,” all while keeping the laughs coming and asking: is this tragedy, comedy, or both?

Transcript

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I want you to respond to it, though.

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Welcome to Bone to Pick podcast with.

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Me and Big Jay Ogazon, the Bone to Pick. Man, do we have a day today, huh? Oh, my God, this is big. We didn't even know this was gonna happen. This kind of fell into our laps, so to speak.

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It's the universe.

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Thank God. When we knew that the now released and epic Corey Feldman doc, it was Corey Feldman versus the World, came out on Thursday. When we saw the trailer, we thought to call our friend Jezebel Sweet and ask her if she would call the show. She did. And then she's been doing the Q and A's and going around with the director, Marcy Hume, doing, like, the screenings and the Q and A's with the girls. The girls that are coming out. The Angels. The Angels. And Jezebel reached out to Christine, I believe.

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No, I reached out to Jezebel, actually on Jacob's call. He was like, why don't you see if Jezebel will put you in touch with Marcy? And she did.

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And she did.

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And then Marcy went and watched our interview with Jezebel and was like, oh, this is great.

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Nice.

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I love it.

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Beautiful. Yeah, Beautiful. So we have lucked out and landed for today's show. She's gonna be joining us in a few minutes here for the whole show. The director.

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I mean, that's great.

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Yeah. I mean, she'll say, as long as we want her to stay, I think. Yeah, boot her out.

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She's actually really funny.

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Just start talking about other things with her.

[C]

Hey, what do you think about what Trump wrote today about Rob Reiner?

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Yeah, I don't understand. He's like. He said basically he brought it on himself by hating Trump.

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Yeah, dude, he's. I mean, listen, I don't care if you voted for Trump or not. You gotta be. You gotta take a step back right now and go, this guy's fucking nuts.

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It's wild. It's definitely real.

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It's not. He him and Corey have the same thing.

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May they rest in peace. He didn't like me. That's always going to usually end you in a casket, but good. But I like Misery. Misery is a good movie.

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Nobody. He always goes through the digios. He made a lot of movies. Good movies. A long time ago.

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He made some. Yeah, he was. He was a good director at some point. At one point. I have no idea what Rob Reiner's interest or not in fucking Trump shit is, but, I mean, how do you make anything about this other than just like, probably say nothing?

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But as the president, I mean, if you were just a podcast or a vlogger, okay, you'd say some weird shit. But you're the president of the free world.

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You should have bigger fish to fry.

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He does.

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Don't worry about taking a fucking shot at Rob Reiner. Yeah, dude killed by his son.

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There's a lot of shit that went on this weekend. My God, there was a lot of. A lot of shootings this weekend.

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Maybe.

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Maybe back out of the Rob Reiner fucking post.

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No, but those. The shooters didn't hate Trump. Rob Reiner did. Those other things aren't really his issue. Yeah, can't be bothered with it.

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There's a lot on his plate. It's not like it was a slow news weekend.

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No, there was plenty going on. I don't know if you guys heard, but the Corey Feldman documentary dropped and then also Jewish people got killed. And. And then Brown University.

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We had a good time watching it at your house, too.

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Brown University shooting.

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We watched that. No, not that. The documentary.

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Oh, yeah. I was gonna be like, oh, my God, you thought that was fun. Now look at this guy go.

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That wasn't even the biggest shooting. There was another one in Australia.

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That's the Jews.

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That's the. Yeah, and here's the thing. A Muslim saved the Jews.

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Really?

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The guy that went and grabbed the gun out of the other guy's hand and saved a bunch of people. Muslim, dude. And then he got shot twice.

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Nah, dude, it's a straw, man. Whatever that means.

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It means he's not made of a lot of stuff. That is solid.

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That's a straw. It's a red herring. That means something too.

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Yeah, that means there's a red herring. Bunch of fish up the river.

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I think what you're saying is just a fucking red herring or something. You need yourself. You be the bap. This is going to be such an exciting talk here. A red herring is a misleading clue or piece of information designed to distract from the Real issue. Was it a red herring? It's been a red herring.

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But why a red herring? I want to know how they came up with it, the origins of it.

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Of the origin of red herrings.

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What's a red herring? What is that? Why a red herring? And what is a red herring?

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I think it's a bird.

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Is it a bird? Sounds like a fish.

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Well, herring is a fish.

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I think it's a fish. Maybe it's a fish. That is not real.

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It originates from a pungent smoked fish.

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Bingo.

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Used to train hunting dogs by dragging it across a trail to teach them to ignore distractions and follow the true scent, later popularized. We have a director coming in here. I can't talk like that. Popularized by journalist William Corbett in 1807 as a metaphor for misleading news, it signifies a deliberate diversion, a false clue. Oh, so. Okay, I gotcha.

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So it's not the actual thing that the dogs are chasing.

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Not the thing. It's the smell that they were doing. They put all over it to see if they would ignore that smell, to see if they're idiots and go, keep going for the thing.

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Right. Red herring. And that.

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Now I forget how we were using it in our own conversation. I don't remember what the hell we were even talking about.

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I don't know if it was plural. I think it was singular.

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Don't think I didn't treat Max nice yesterday.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. I think we learned this weekend in a couple different situations. It's a busy weekend for being home this weekend. We learned a lot of things. I think we learned that when you start showing a little more respect to our workmate, Louis.

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Well, I think some of us have slid in respect over the last year.

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I didn't know I was giving a great term of disrespect. I still don't feel like it was ever, but I've seen how this can go. So now I'd like to say, Louis, happy holidays. I hope you had a great weekend.

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Hey, Louis. It's good to see you, my friend.

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Good to see you guys as well. Hey, hey. Don't let them try to make you.

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Feel that black is a bad word, my brother. I don't know if it was.

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I didn't think it was. But there are repercussions, apparently, for calling somebody at work black. Whatever.

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Well, I got the greatest Christmas card. I get a Lot of funny Christmas cards. But let me tell you something right now. Now, I opened up Lewis, respectfully, Lewis's Christmas card, and it. It really made me chuckle. It's one of the funniest cards I've ever got in my life. I'm not gonna say what it said. I don't think I can.

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Probably. Legally.

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Legally. And I'd lose my job.

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And fiscally, it's a bad idea.

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Wow.

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Did it make me. My knees bent with laughter. Well, I was expecting, you know, hey, happy holidays, love you, blah, blah, blah. And it went on. It went somewhere totally different. It punched me in the stomach with laughter. Wow, Lou, that was a great one, buddy. I'm saving that forever. It's on my tree. You can't open it.

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We're getting this probably another day.

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Okay.

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Unless you just want to play the opening sentence so we can just find.

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YouTube's down, but I found on Facebook.

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Really?

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You're so smart, Christine.

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So Jerry went crazy and started murdering everybody at the construction site.

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Yeah.

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Best reason I have is they called him Black Jerry. So I. The black. The Black. Fill in the blank. Game days are over.

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Yeah. I'm actually gonna carry his card with me. So if he does, I'm like, what about this? Remember these days?

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What about this? Dude, go back and you have Lugo. Yeah. I guess we were okay at some point. I guess we were okay. I think we shouldn't wait anymore. We should get Marcy.

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Get her in.

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Get her in here. I've got 700,000 questions, and you should know that this is brought to you. Admit one thing, and I know this is tough because you're sober and sobriety means the world to you.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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Sobriety means everything to you.

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It does.

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It does. Don't you wish we were able to knock a few back while you were watching that documentary out in the backyard? Just knock a few back maybe.

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I actually really wish I could have grabbed one of those joints you were smoking.

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Yeah, Yeah. I was gonna say maybe rip a bone and really have some good laughs. Laughing at Feldog.

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I get. I get violent when I drink. I don't want to do that. I don't want to kick over some furniture and start crying in your backyard in the snow. But if I smoke some weed, we would have just. I would have fell asleep out there. You would have wake me up the next day.

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We could have watched just me and you giggling, laughing at Corey doing the craziest shit. This documentary watching. I mean, it didn't only live up to the hype, it far exceeded. Shit's so good.

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It is such an insight, compelling to what he is and what his world is. It was pretty incredible, man.

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It was incredible. That was one of the best things I've seen in like 20 years. I'm not exaggerating, though. Corey Feldman versus the world. I was saying I felt nothing since the Dark Knight Inside Me until. Sorry you came. Our top films of all time, Godfather 1 and 2. I count that as one. Corey Feldman versus the world.

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Is that what you call Black Lou the Dark Knight?

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Joining us right now, her film, Corey Feldman vs. The World, available right now at coreyfilm.com make sure you check it out. It is absolutely fantastic. The director, she is here with us right now. Marcy Hume. Thank you so much for hanging out with us.

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Thank you.

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Big get. A big, big get.

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It's a big get. Especially for us to be able to watch this Saturday night and sit there, me and him at his house, watch this and just go over it and over and just talk about it. And then to have you here today.

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Well, I'd already seen it already at that point, too, so I was able to go through and like John Madden, like, football play, break it down for him. I go. Cause there was, especially the second time around, there was subtle things I missed. Just like a little like the wording of something, I think I told you right away, Bobby opens up on his wedding in Vegas. And one right away, like, true to form, yelling at people involved. Let's start the wedding march, you know? And then also the wording of the vow, saying that this is right out of the gates. He goes, and I promise to love you for the rest of your life. Sounds threatening. I think you're supposed to say our lives or my life. He puts it out where he goes, as long as you're alive, I'll love you.

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Well, I thought it was incredible that the music. There's something so piercing about it that the music just doesn't start. And he's like, what is going on? It's like perfect Corey moment to kick it off at his own wedding. The music doesn't start.

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He seems like he's conducting every second of his life. Yeah, he's like directing, producing every single second of every moment of his life.

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Right?

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He's in. What is going on? He doesn't. He lets nothing go.

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Well, who also would have known that 10 years ago, Marcy, that our lives were kind of were intersecting in a spot we didn't even know. We've already been in the same building. Together.

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That's beautiful.

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You and I and many of us in this room, because we were at. I believe you were at the. That's the tour. So we were at the Highland Ballroom.

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You don't remember seeing me run around with a camera? I'm insulted that you don't remember seeing a lady. We were with a camera on a stick.

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We were entranced with what was happening on stage. We couldn't believe we were there. We were told, jezebel, Angel Jackie.

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I'm sure she wants to be called.

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Angel Jackie in the documentary Jezebel. Our fans know her as Jezebel, but, yeah, she said that. There was, like. They were told, like, at the front, like, with pictures of us, like, don't let us in. Which every time he tries to keep us out of something, I go, what a mistake we are. We bring the energy. We know the words of the songs. Yeah, we're there. We encourage people to go. We tell people always from the get go, do not interrupt the show. Don't be a dick. Like, he's a performer. No, you let him do his thing. The funny is like, watch a guy give 1000% effort, 0% talent. It's hilarious. You don't have to interrupt him or like. Or insult or heckle him. I'm like, he's gonna just do it and let him do it.

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Who would heckle him? It's terrible. You guys are. I'm sorry. I see you're about to say something. I've got to say, I think you guys are mega fans, and I want. I. I have a dream, you know, I. I never ever wanted to or had any intention of. Of mocking him whatsoever. And even though you guys are comedians, and I do think mocking people, I guess maybe is part of the jam.

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Sure.

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I think you have a deep. I see a deep appreciation. And so I believe there is a way to come together in those worlds, even though there may be no room for nuance.

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Entertainment is entertainment.

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No, I think I completely agree. There's things I said and I'm curious. I don't want to get too much into this yet, because I want to start almost from the beginning of. What made you become, like. What made you get you interested in the subject of.

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Yeah, well, I mean, maybe it is the same thing. I mean, I. I think there is a visceral feeling that you get in seeing Corey perform and do his thing. I mean, I would say it's. I give it a 10 out of 10. You know, it's like, there it is.

[C]

You didn't get Involved to it. Like the person that did a documentary on Led Zeppelin, like, this is going to be. This is. No, I mean, it had to be a thing of like, I have to capture this guy.

[A]

Yeah, I just was. I was taken.

[B]

But what did you see? Did you see like a particular.

[A]

Like, I did. I remember sitting and watching Ascension Millennium. Oh, my God, this is amazing. And I think it is, you know, that has continued through this whole thing. There is a whole spectrum of feelings that you get that in a perfect world. I think Corey does have the capacity to embrace. I think he is smart and with it. And I've seen him embrace lots of different things. So we can get to that. So, yeah, I saw that. And the first thing we did was I talked with his management, a different management than the ones you see in the movie, but made a TV sizzle that he really liked. You know, it was a four or five minute tape about Cory's Angels. So very different than what you see in the doc. And he. He really dug it and it was. It went great. And then I was like, you know, I did not sell it. I failed to sell it as a TV show. But then I was like, I really, really want to do a doc. And it took a little while to get in there and make that happen. But the wedding was the first time I had access.

[C]

Was there any bit of you, though, like, is because of the craziness and how he is that had to be in it though, right?

[B]

Did you feel he was misunderstood a little bit at all or were you, like, who knows?

[A]

Of course. I mean, I think he puts the. Being misunderstood out as part of his character in a very intense way also. And I think that is palpable. And, you know, you feel for him and you almost want to help him in some way. You know, I think the whole gamut is there. You know, he's doing it, he's doing his thing and he's going forward and he's like, I'm gonna keep going no matter what. And he feels, I think, very vulnerable. And I don't know, I still feel all these things at once. You know, I always want to. Yeah. Kind of support and help him through things, but I, you know, or give him advice or something. I don't think he wants that from me or maybe you guys, but, you know.

[B]

Well, yeah, for sure. Well, it's. I said I feel like he's always like a hair off of like the spin where it could be perfect. You know, you. You put somebody that I thought was very interesting in this Documentary as a fan. And she's. And she's. She's a fan of his that says. She goes, no, man. He goes out there and does his thing, whatever. He's doing what he loves. She goes, yeah, look. She goes, I'm a fan of me. I listen to this song, half the songs, and I'm like, the. Is this shit? She goes. She goes. But. She goes, but fuck you, you're a hater. If, like, you're just coming at him like they hate his guts. And I was like, that's exactly. But if he tapped into that, like, if his music was like, I don't know. I just love it. I love Michael Jackson. I love the thing, you know, I love performing. It's just. It's fun for me. He's. The problem is he's grandiose. So everything's the biggest project in the world. It's important, you know? I mean, everything's important versus, like. Yeah. And then people would kind of go see. It's like, oh, yeah, we're gonna see, like, the chaos. It's a Corey Feldman show versus he's trying to go. This is like Beatles level. Like, important to the world.

[A]

And even that, I think, is part of what's enticing about it. So I don't know that you wanna take anything away from it. Right. Like, all the layers are part of it. And what makes him, I think, amazing to watch. So if you took any part of it away, I think it becomes a little doozy. Absolutely. But I have to tell you, I was thinking about this the other day, about the first time I was standing in this RV with my camera on a stick, as per my mention. And I said, what do you see when you look out there? What do you see when you look at the crowd? And he said, the first thing I see is people mocking me or people making fun of me or something. And I did not know that he saw me.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

Yeah. And it broke my heart. And it was a revelation. And it was. It kind of like opened up a new world to me because we don't know what other people are thinking feeling. But I didn't know that he saw that. And it kind of gave me a new level of. I don't know, it just opened up a new world to me of what might be going on there and a new hope for what he could embrace and kind of make.

[C]

Well, don't you think that people were showing up to this at the beginning where, oh, this is going to be great. Do you think that there were people like, this is going to be great. And then they. When it was live, it was. It was like, what the is going on?

[A]

I think everybody was. I think there are people.

[C]

And I think now, like, it's come full circle where people go to see. We went to see him at Loserville and people were there to see him do his thing. Now we get him.

[A]

Yeah, people understand.

[B]

You want to see him play guitar knowing he doesn't know how to play the guitar.

[A]

I think everything is represented. That's my interpretation. I think there are people that go. I think there are true Cory fans, for sure, that really are just into it no matter what. I think there are people that love the irony of it. And I also think there are tons of people that go to hate it and get shifted around and are enjoying it in a way that they didn't know that they would.

[C]

When I went and saw him at. In my brain, I'm like, this is gonna suck. By the end of it, he was touching people in the crowd over there. And I ran something. I ran to go over and touch Corey. Yeah, he. I was like, I want security stunk.

[B]

Because you could touch him. That shouldn't have been the case. You shouldn't have been able to touch him. But he. Yeah, it's. Again, it's. It's. You're right. If you change anything, he's not him.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But I'm almost talking about, like, the human being that you feel is, like, fractured in there. Like, you do feel like if he just, like, got it a little bit more, it would almost like, save his own psyche. Because again, I think by the end of the documentary, you start hearing like. Like a psychosis almost of, like, paranoia. I mean, again, one of my hardest laughs. I don't know. They're not dismissive maybe supposed. I mean, they are those to some degree. It's. He's on the phone at one point, I think, before the Today show, and he's kind of pacing around. He's on the phone talking to someone he's given, like, well, I gotta do a tour. We got eight days left and my band's all leaving. I got this problem. And I got this problem over there. He goes. And then, you know, I'm doing the Today show and they're asking, oh, and also, I almost got murdered twice today.

[C]

I was hit by two trucks.

[B]

Yeah, that's concept. That's one. That's. First thing on the list is a phone call. Every phone call you're on, he's, like, vaping and he's like, I don't know. We still have to figure out where we're gonna get dinner. And I was almost murdered twice.

[A]

There's always that layer going on. But I think to take away a layer definitely would detract, but I don't know. I definitely think that the layer people mocking him is harmful. Like, I don't think anybody wants to be mocked in this world. It's just. It's this weird depersonalization.

[C]

But you can't have more of a. Get away from it.

[A]

You're right. You can't get away from it.

[C]

He was famous back when fame was protected and sheltered and publicists had the narrative and they. They did all that. That's gone. You're getting attacked. Anything you do, no matter how great you are, you. Tom Hardy gets attacked. You know, even the people you think.

[B]

Would have you love Tom Hardy.

[C]

I fucking love him so much.

[A]

I wouldn't have come here if I'd known we were talking about Tom Hardy.

[C]

You don't like Tom Hardy?

[A]

I don't even really know what you're talking about.

[B]

Next document, Tom Hardy vs.

[A]

The World.

[B]

What do you see? What a monster he is, you know?

[C]

Bring up Kelly Cox. I'll jump over the stage.

[A]

There's a brief shot of Kelly Clarkson in the movie. There's a little Easter egg for you.

[C]

Shut your mouth.

[A]

Oh, boy. Now you have to watch it again.

[C]

When I'm not gonna tell you.

[A]

You can go find it.

[C]

She's got to be at the table.

[A]

I'm saying nothing more about it anyway. To what you were.

[B]

Go back to look away when she came on. Cuz I didn't want you to get excited at my house.

[C]

Why would you hide that from me?

[B]

Cuz I don't want you to get hard in front of my dog.

[C]

Again. I already got reprimanded for that before I said it.

[A]

Now, Bobby, back to your astute.

[C]

Thank you for using the word astute, by the way.

[A]

Twice. Yeah, that's right.

[C]

And I. Three times with me. But no, but I think he's from this fame where he. That's the way fame was. And he never made the transition into new fame.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Where it's out there and you can't. If you don't like it, don't look at it. You can't be. You can't have both. You. You're not going to be able to read the. Get all the accolades and think your shit's not going to be in there. You can't get the accolades and not the. The horseshit too. And He. He takes it so personal. Yeah. And he just. He doesn't forget all the accolades, forget the people that actually showing up at these gigs that do love him. Right. He just takes all the shit and soaks that in. And that actually, I think, makes him even crazier to somehow prove people wrong. It's like, you're not.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You can never do that. You can never prove everybody wrong or any of that.

[C]

I've been trying to do it here for two and a half years.

[A]

I bet. Yeah. No, I think. And you see, I mean, I really love the scene that I remember when I worked very closely with our editor, Adam Franklin. But sometimes he would just kind of bring me the skeleton of a scene. And he put together the scene in Omaha at this pub called Maloney's, which I just. That scene really kills me. But you see his. His fans and part of what his fans mean to him. And there is so much love out there. You know, there's. There's so much. And. And. But it's always gonna come with the other side of things. It's always gonna be this flip side.

[C]

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[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So, you know, and he was telling us, like, it's interesting to hear the thing because the documentary shows this a lot, and it's really sort of a side you definitely didn't see in the two Coreys or a lot of the stuff he does. And he was just like, it's unchecked, child star, like, thing. It's like that. And he. He said he watched him do it. He doesn't even realize he's doing. He said, they came out and you were there for this. They brought him a birthday cake. Remember the. Very well, we waited for him downstairs, came out with a birthday cake for him, and they sang. Then we blew out the candles. And then someone started cutting the cake. And he, like, pitched a fit almost. He was just kind of like, got mad. He's like, what? No, we're not supposed to cut. It's like this, you know, And I think the documentary shows a lot of that. You're not going to the hotel without me. You know, no one can go to the hotel without me. What do you. And it's just, you know, I said. But also to give. Like I said, when I watch things like that, especially performing, because we travel and perform a lot, too, and sometimes you got to keep people kind of organized and stuff. Like, I did feel that thing where, like, you know, he feels it's so important and Someone's like, yeah, I went to go get lunch, and it's like, but we have a meeting now, you know, So I see both sides, but I also see. It's like, hey, man, relax.

[A]

I hear you. I felt that on the road. I mean, he has a lot of people around him that really want to be there, really love him, you know, want to be in his world and kind of support the structure of that world, you know, and we'll kind of do anything to be there. But, you know, I hear you. When. If something's sort of unreasonable or whatnot, I don't. You know, I don't think there's a lot of room to negotiate there. If somebody. You know how it is. If somebody has an idea of how they want their world to be and you're on their trajectory, then that's it. So.

[B]

But to show being like, the girl being like, I'm gonna go to the bathroom. He's like, that's not. We're having a meeting right now. And she's like, yeah, I just have to pee, though.

[A]

Oh, I love that moment so much.

[B]

And it's like, but you. Yeah, well, I gotta say my new favorite. And I like that it's been. It's directly from the movie, which is. So I could say it is the clip pulled I showed our friend last night. It's him doing. I'm like, could you imagine if you already really don't know your instrument well, right. You're picked up basically because you're a girl who's willing to go along with this goofy thing. And also, you get, like, the novelty of it. And, you know, we've talked to Jezebel. She's like, yeah, you're gonna go hang with Corey Feldman for a while. Why not? But, you know Margot, the first girl to kind of come out negatively against him afterwards. She's a musician. She plays music really well. And having to sit there and, like, take seriously when he's going to a girl who doesn't know how to play the guitar, and he's going like, come on. He goes, now I need you at this point to go skittiddly bitty bally white. And then they go. And then you come in with squeeed, like, yeah. It's like, that's a crazy thing. And then she's, like, trying to do it. He's like, now you're getting it. You know?

[C]

You know, you used to do that. You know where he got that from? Michael Jackson used to do that, right?

[B]

Because you know how to play music.

[C]

He didn't know how to play music. But when Michael did it, it was.

[B]

Like he's working with trained mega musicians that have been provided to him by a company, you know, the best people in the world.

[C]

And this girl learned the bass a week ago.

[B]

Yeah, he sang it to George Harris.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

He's saying it to, like, a girl who's like. And I always thought the one. The quantifying the thing is like, this project, the thing versus having hot girls and underwear around him was always kind of ridiculous. And again, that's where I started getting the things like, where does he believe and what does he not believe? Because I said, I've heard enough things that he's got a childlike thing to him still. He never kind of grew out of that. But just like they show him on Sway in the Morning here, and he's like, it's just beautiful women walking around half naked. And they also are beautiful inside. Like, wow. Why do people not get it? Why do they keep saying they're like, fuck orgies? Like, because everyone's naked and three way kissing. What is it? The. The mounting evidence? What is the thing everyone's saying this for? And again, like, if he was just like. And that's why I think the documentary, if there's anything exposes, which I didn't know as much outside of the wife swap thing, that kind of came, you know, a thing at the time. But we were more like fans of all the goofy shit he was doing, so we paid attention to that. I think I was thinking, I thought we also know enough about TV to know it is massaged by producers and what it is you have to do. But he was willing to let himself be seen as the guy. And then seeing that in real life, he was trying to, like, quietly live like a Hugh Hefner life on this thing because he's, like, providing it, but he doesn't provide the service of Playboy.

[C]

Yeah, he doesn't have the grotto at all.

[B]

He doesn't have a fucking pools. When we met at the Playboy Mansion, I had no idea. God damn it, man. Don't leave that out. Not one person who you proofread that it was like, maybe you could just say, when we met, it was fine.

[C]

I think that's his problem too. He doesn't have anybody around him going, hey, dude, fucking stop that.

[B]

I think he gets rid of them right away. Or his brother. I know his brother and them that we followed when they went on the celebrity boot camp, which I believe was after the tours and everything.

[A]

It Was.

[B]

And the same thing. He doesn't seem as tortured by the history.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, he had a different trajectory, for sure. Eden. And I think he's great in the film. I mean, he has more. There were more deleted scenes that are not in there, but he was fantastic. He was just, you know, another person along for the ride. I mean, a lot of, you know, a lot of these folks were just along for the ride.

[B]

I think he's a lot of sympathy for his brother in a weird way. He really seems to, at least.

[A]

Yeah, I think he just had a different. You know, he had a different trajectory where he didn't. He chose not to do as much, obviously, as much acting. You know, I think he did some commercials and things, you know, when he was younger and then was like, I don't think I want to, you know, pursue this as much so. But I think his reflections are so important and, you know, carry a lot of weight because he was there, you know, he obviously. I mean, they have an age difference, but obviously he's trying.

[C]

Even when he was at. You know, he's yelling at him to put a laser up on the. Hang it for. He's like, we can't. He's like, we need it. You're at Mahoney's camp. You're at Mahoney's pubs. They're not gonna hang something from the ceiling, man.

[B]

House rules. My man.

[A]

He is very direct. Whereas, you know, the other folks, I think, don't feel that they can go up against the boss, you know, which is how, I think how we all are in those circumstances. We're not gonna fight.

[C]

Well, I was telling Jay that I was watching this in a different perspective because I've been on. I've been on this to a.

[B]

He was Dain's Angels.

[C]

I was a Dangel.

[B]

Dane Cook's Angels.

[C]

I was a day. I did a. A bus tour.

[B]

You remember Dane Cook from the early aughts?

[A]

I think we all do.

[C]

But there was. When you're the guy and your name is. I remember even the dude, we're doing a bus tour. Our names are gonna be on the bus. And we were like. I remember we were all in the parking lot waiting for the bus to show up, and when it pulled up, it just said, Dane Cooks Torgasm. And it was huge. It was massive. And I said, where's our names? Because that was. It was supposed to be this thing for all us. And then three days into the tour, he goes, guys, I got something to show you. And we. I remember we Had a blind. We're all like. It's like me, Gary Goman and Jason.

[B]

The exhaust pipes.

[C]

He goes, come on. We had a blindfold. Like, close our eyes. We're walking about, well, what, dude, we're tired. And then we get to the back of the bus and just small letters. It said his name again. And then Bob Kelly, Bobby Kelly, Gary Goman and Jay Davis. On the back of the bus, in the smallest letter bus should have been.

[B]

A picture of him holding the three of you in his hand. I love that Angels.

[C]

But he was like, see guys, your name's on the bus. You're like, yeah, but it's on the fucking. You know what I mean? But you can't say that. You're kind of stuck in this now.

[B]

Bobby, play bass guitar. I don't know how to play bass guitar, dude.

[A]

They did play. I mean, he gave the girls stage time. It's just, you know, in a film like this, it gets very boring very quick watching, you know, a bunch of songs being played. But like the girl you were talking about, Brittany Paige, actually is a guitarist and she's gotten a lot better. So, you know, we'll.

[B]

Oh, no, we'll check her out. I'm even saying for her, like, if you played guitar. Yeah, unless you're Jimi Hendrix.

[A]

Oh, totally.

[B]

At the age. She's in her early 20s, this girl. And he goes, go swiggly, squiggly squaw.

[A]

I'm with you.

[B]

She's like, I don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

[A]

Totally.

[B]

Like a crooked head dog.

[A]

She's like, what are we doing?

[C]

So funny. When you see the concert, she doesn't do it.

[B]

I don't blame the angels for any of the things they've done at all.

[A]

Like, I hear you.

[B]

Even down to like, you know, whatever they, you know, people can say all kinds of things that's going on. I thought that was an interesting thing to see because you were. I assume you're always behind the camera.

[A]

I am, yeah. There is my producer and kind of partner on this Star Rosencrantz filmed a couple of really important scenes when I wasn't in town. But other than that, it is me.

[B]

I was wondering who was back there for particularly I thought another interesting thing. Ixnay on the camera.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

But no, but I thought it was a very personality indicative thing too. And you left it in there was like him stealing the moment from her father coming. Her father comes. She's hyper emotional about it. They're trying to have a conversation about it. And he's just like, tell a little bit my childhood. He's just like. And he's almost, like, talking to speak over them while they're, like, having a real thing about. I'm like, can you just let them have their moment? He's like, my dad would have showed up on tour to give me a punch in the cock. And, you know. And they tell me that I'm a loser. You're like, all right, man. Just let them have their moment.

[A]

It is. That moment is incredible. I think that, to me, that speaks so much of something where you. You know, it's about. The story is about him. And he was. You know, he's taking a moment to tell you the story that's about him. But I think to the outside eye, you know, you're like, okay, you're jumping in here to tell your narrative, and it's all of these things at once, you know? Like, I think this. The thing I am proudest about, honestly, about this movie, is that it is, you know, every moment of it, to me, just has all of these things in it where you're just like. I get the depth of what's going on here with this person. And also, it's absurd. And also there's something funny and sad in every moment of the story.

[B]

Oh, yeah. If I had to go to the core of him, I mean, again, all you could work on is theory. But just, like, by the core, all the evidence he's given of it, what I find interesting about. And you go through him, like the time where he's saying, all right, I'm gonna come forward and tell these names. I think a lot of the hate he gets in that, too, is. And I've said this a thousand different ways, he keeps going, like, me and Corey Haim were molested and raped and whatever in Hollywood by these people. And you go, wow. I think most people go, I'm listening. Okay, what the hell happened? And he goes, so Corey Haim got raped by this guy and fucked by this guy. And then I think the most he's ever given on his own thing is, I go, what about. You know, if I goes, hey, do you have anything about you? Or you're just telling the stories of a guy who's gone now. And then he'll be like, yeah, I think a guy tried to suck my dick once. Maybe. I don't know. And he kind of like, so. It's like he's so happy. Not happy, even, but, like, willing to just keep telling every detail of, like, Corey Haim stuff. He gives nothing about himself, which I think is very like, you'd have more people on your team if you would tell yourself. You just keep telling somebody else's stories. And then that's. And his mother, I'm sure, you know, is like, Corey Haim's mother is like, this guy's kid's awful.

[C]

It was weird when he said, he said, and you put the guy's photo in there when he was like, hey, man, just get me a guy. And he was like, I know this one guy, he's kind of not that good looking.

[B]

In the movie he made, not the documentary he made, the Tale of Two.

[C]

Corns, you had the photo of the guy. This, this. It just shows a quick photo of this guy, like, just looks like a pedophile.

[B]

He's like, it was a chaperone, party wise.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, that's him.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

And it just goes to him and then it goes. Bring him over. Who cares?

[A]

Dominic Raja. Yeah. I think that whole realm is infinitely complex and I think that's the most we get to here, is that you see that it is just full of extraordinarily deep emotion that I think none of us are ever going to understand or get to. It's a time, I mean, there's footage in there where Corey Haim is being photographed in the, you know, decades and decades ago in this way that feels like, I don't know, would we do this now? Maybe we would. Like a young person being photographed and objectified in this way where you're like, what?

[C]

I had my girlfriend's mother one time photograph me in a hard hat and a half shirt and sweatpants.

[A]

Sounds cool.

[B]

For what? I don't know.

[C]

I didn't show you those photos.

[B]

8Th grade calendar my mother got.

[C]

So she bought me all these outfits and she was like, I want to take photos. And it's me in front of all, like, Scott Baio, Matt Dillon and just me with a hard hat.

[A]

Very hard. Yeah.

[C]

I think her mom wanted to ban me.

[B]

Well, yeah, but you're right, though. I remember those magazines when I was younger, like Tiger Beat and stuff and bop.

[C]

It was okay.

[B]

It's funny, they didn't really do so much girls. It seemed like it was teeny bopper enough that it would be like Alyssa Milano and like, you know, like a jean jacket and like, you know, smiling. But it would be like a wet Corey Haim, like, you know, with a shirt off or like a thing like.

[A]

To Bobby's point of the way that fame operated then. I mean, the amount of attention I gotta say, Justine Bateman writes about fame in this time. Because she was, you know, mega famous. You know, when there were three TV channels. And I think it's just impossible to freaking imagine what that would be like when you have this machine behind you that we don't have. We just don't have it now because everybody's, you know, doing their own thing.

[C]

And those people.

[B]

What?

[C]

I remember seeing things like, just like treating a limo guy shitty, you know. I was in the car one night. It's like, hey, can you turn the AC on? It's too hot. It's too cold. Make it a little warmer. A little. No, make it a little hotter. Can you change the radio station? Not that one. This one. Change it back. Just. And this guy's like, what the fuck is happening right now? It's like, you know, like, I've got no limo. I just sit there and I get to where I'm going, I say thank you, I hand the guy, and then not even tip the guy. And, like, you know, go through all this. But it's almost like that's what fame is. When you're that famous, you get to control other people and how they do it. And when you have that for so long to let that go, you'll try to find it on a smaller scale. And I think kind of that's what he. He was finding it on this smaller scale with these girls, you know, and he didn't have all the house or the fame or the car. He had it. And he got them to start this band just to keep that I am the star, I'm the guy type thing.

[B]

But isn't that level of fame, like, what he has? Corey Feldman is kind of like that. Someone will. Someone's gonna take care of it. You know what I mean? It's almost like he never had to overthink about tipping. Cause he wasn't really the guy laying down. It's like, you know, some big guy was supposed to watch him, like, make sure he's whatever. Or they just do. They just take care of it for him so he doesn't have a bad name around town. And then when you lose that, they seem like, you know, I mean, like, they're not. They don't even know how the world works. Like, they're so lost in the world. I mean, to have to not see, like, you know, it's the wife swap thing I always go back to too. Cause, like, I know he was. Did it, you know, and it's massaged by things. But he's he's willing to let himself be seen in that light. Like, he doesn't see why it looks ridiculous to yell at four girls wearing angel wings and see through lingerie.

[A]

I don't know. And I feel like I should know a certain answer at this point, but I don't think we can say that he doesn't know. I mean, I think he understands the idea of building a narrative around himself and the idea of controlling a narrative. And, you know, I mean, I certainly know that he understands the image of having, you know, beautiful women around. I mean, he's not, you know, but.

[B]

Do you think he gets like the. I feel like he thinks he's getting like the. A tough life, dude, for him when he's going like, oh, my God, trying to control these four half naked girls. I mean, could you imagine? He thinks the world's going like, sounds like a nightmare, dude. Good luck with that. You know what I mean? I don't think he has like the.

[A]

I don't know exactly what he's thinking for sure, but I do think. I think there's more depth there for sure in the awareness. But I hear you. I don't. You know, it's. Maybe we're not on the exact same page together and there could be an expansion of understanding that would benefit him. Like, you know, I'm just. I'm always rooting for that. Like, I'm just always rooting for.

[B]

Well, he did it. He did. He gave a glance and I think somebody might have said on the, on the one thing, I was like, did this guy listen to me for, like, the first time ever? He listened because he did one interview, and it was after, I think somebody in his world got to him, was like, hey, man, Fred Durst is making fun of you. He's not like, you know what I mean? It's like, this isn't just like a gift of like, I love Corey Feldman. I want to hang out with Corey Feldman. He gets the joke of this. You know what I mean? And he's putting out there. And so when he was doing the guitar solo, if you remember this thing that was happening.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, of course.

[B]

The ridiculous guitar solo. He finally did an interview and he mentioned it. He brought it up almost to get to the subject. He was like, yeah, it's like everybody with that guitar solo, like, I can't play the guitar. I don't know what I'm doing. It's the worst guitar solo in the world. He goes, of course. That's what's funny. He's like, isn't that what?

[C]

But that's all he has to do.

[B]

No, that's all he could have to do across the board with everything. And the thing is, he doesn't. Because I feel like someone in that one got to him and goes, goes, corey, it's just obvious you don't know how to play the guitar. And he goes, ah. To me, I think it's more like he spun it to that.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Versus it really being that if it was like, to me, if you were like, buddy, I'm famous enough that I'm gonna go out there and just punch a guitar, and then people are gonna go, yeah, like, he's not doing. He's like, something in him that's actually where. I wonder where, like, the character and the human being, like, starts and stops. Because, like, you do know, going in, I don't understand how the guitar works. And then going for it and just strumming and just doing anything with your hands. Going crazy with it is kind of funny. I can make noise with it and whatever. But he's like, maybe I can make them think. I know. That's what I'm saying. It's hard to guess.

[A]

Absolutely. And then I think there's an element where this is like high, high art, where I think the fact that we are talking about this forever and honestly, in my mind right now, I have the Today show dance moves, and I'm like, there's just nothing like that in the world.

[B]

You know, starts with ball.

[A]

And then that video, you know, at the beginning of his shows, where it says original dance moves. And, you know, all that stuff. I mean, like, it is so good and so incredible, and you just think, we will be in this spin of asking these questions forever. And that is extraordinary. I don't have the answers.

[C]

There's a moment in the Tonight show when they're saying they're gonna bring up Charlie Sheen's name. And there's a moment on the Today show and there's a moment where he's like, well, that's gonna cost you more money. Money. Where I'm like, well, that's pretty business of you.

[B]

You know, like, I kind of missed that the first time around when I watched it with you sometime. And, Christine, you said you recognized the first time, but I didn't notice that where it was like, I mean, if you're gonna make me risk my life, you gotta come off a little more spread. It seems like something you're pretty defined on. Like, that's pretty cool.

[C]

Coherent, like, I'm in. Okay, you want Me to go, that if you're gonna do that, that's gonna cost you more money.

[B]

And then, and then, and then the wife going, like, well, just take it over to just like such a hardball move. It's like, like the subject is so much bigger than just him. So it's like to make it about like, are you gonna be a little more money? That. That's. That was a bad look. The wife, Courtney, I have such mixed. Because we watched him on the celebrity boot camp show. Again, reality show doesn't mean much of anything. But on the thing, I mean, I mean, you do like in the comedy sense of the show. You have a couple moments of her really looking silly of doing a couple things that are. I mean, I mean, they're world class goodies. I mean, no, I don't know what a Lolita is. I mean, it's the headline of the trailer. And then her. That was when she's reading. Is it Mara's letter? And he goes, I can't even read. I don't even want to read this anymore. And then she goes, we don't ask her to party. And he goes, did not enjoy the things I was being asked to be a party to party to. She's like, whatever. Just goes back to like clanking her bowl or whatever.

[C]

Not for nothing, I probably would have.

[B]

Made the same mistake. Yeah, I'm not judging her. I'm just saying it is. Those are great moments. Oh, listen, a lot of the comedy on the show is Bobby doing that exact thing there.

[A]

You know, one of my favorite moments is Mara Moon and her, you know, this hard cut in the movie and she says, I've never played electric bass in my life. And her face is so amazing. And you know, Courtney has not been able to. To come to any screenings or anything like that. But you know, Mara and Britney and Margo, Marissa, you know, Jackie have come to screenings. How about Darcy? Darcy has come along and seen the women. She hasn't. And she did come actually. Sorry. She did come to the premiere and she didn't come up for the Q and A, which is totally fine for.

[B]

Anyone who didn't see it yet. Darcy is. And again, this. For all the things I know about Corey. I didn't know there was like a third girlfriend thing. That's why it kind of got me on the Hugh Hefner, like, he wants to have multiple girlfriends. I thought she was one of the most, like, to him at least, like punishing reveals of at the end of it.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, she's extraordinary. And, you know, thankfully, she's gotten so much support and love. I mean, she just went through such a transformation. You know, you just see it in her face. She just went through something in her life, and you can just really see it in her. I think all these women had, you know, so young. Oh, yeah, a lot of them were very young. Did something that was, you know, they. They embarked on something that was gonna be an adventure and something interesting in their lives and all went through something really different. And they have all embraced this experience and even the really, you know, funny moments that, you know, I feel like we all have to embrace in life. When I think about these moments of myself doing this thing, like making this movie all the time, you know, that life is just like that. That life is. It just has these moments constantly. They actually help me live through life honestly. Like looking at myself from above and being like, oh, my God, this is so unreal and ridiculous. It just. It's like everything is a Charlie Kaufman movie or something. It just helps me.

[B]

Well, I give, you know, the girl. I said the girls in the idea. I understand why they would join the band. I understand the opportunity. You know, you're working with a former, like, child stars names out there already, so there's going to be people at the shows for a reason. I understand them doing it, though. I do think it was funny, though. But I do feel like. Do you feel like at the beginning of it more like they were drinking the Kool Aid? The more because, like, they're defensive of him at a time in the beginning. And then when they kind of get some perspective when they leave, which, you know, again, is an age thing, that's. It doesn't not make sense that Margot was the. She's the oldest one by far. She said that she was the first one to be like, yeah, this is.

[C]

Well, there's always. There's always a tour. Like, even on the thing I did, there's always a. Or when I was a dangel. There's always angels. There's always a. A kind of mutiny thing that starts to happen. I mean, being on the road is tough. Being in this on a bus is tough. Doing all that stuff is tough. And there starts the gossip happens the. And you're seeing all this. It's not in the. A lot of. In the documentary, but was there a moment where you realized, oh, this is kind of going. This is getting fucked up a little bit? Like, they're talking behind his back, they're trying to figure things out. Everybody goes into it with this let's go. Rock and roll. And then a couple days in, or three or four days in a weekend, you're like, what the fuck is going on here?

[A]

You know, there's never any one moment at all. But to your point, I mean, obviously this is way easier to look back on, right? And you can see in their faces, I think. I mean, you see a difference with everybody, you know, how they kind of change and transformed. But yeah, I do think you see them. I mean, there are things they say in the beginning or they're very hopeful and they're kind of just making the best of. And then you just see the trajectory of it. I mean, that is it. You see how different people change their minds on things and realize maybe it's not something they want to be doing or that whatever, however they go through it, everybody in their own way. So, you know, just try to put all of those, you know, as many of those kind of voices in there and different perspectives and journeys as possible that I was able to capture anyway.

[C]

Were the angels allowed to be in the meet and greet line or was it just chords?

[A]

The meet and greet line was just Corey, but I think that is because the fans wanted to meet Corey. I mean, I think people came out to see Corey. I don't think so.

[C]

The angels didn't have like a thing of their own, like promoting their own thing or were they allowed, like, you know what I mean?

[A]

It wasn't that they.

[C]

I don't.

[A]

I don't think that it was that they weren't allowed to. I think they very much had. I mean, they. They would play their own songs and they did their own thing. So I don't think it was like they. They were somehow prohibited from doing, you know, from. From doing that. But. But yeah, I think, you know, he.

[B]

One of the things we always said from the first time we went to the show at the Highline Ballroom, because by then, I don't know if that was across the whole tour, but the girl that came in late in the game, Jimenez, Jimena Jimenez, she's a mega town. She opened the show like a solo performance. She played like 20 minutes by herself. And she. She was so good.

[A]

Yeah, she's insane.

[B]

Oh, is this what we post? Yeah, she was.

[A]

Oh, that's Koena.

[B]

Oh, it's a different person.

[A]

That's a. Yeah, that's a different person.

[B]

But it was open. Oh, I thought that was the same. Because she could play.

[A]

Yeah, that.

[B]

And she's now in the Iron Maidens, which.

[A]

Yeah, Ximena was a Guitarist who replaced Britney, who you see get removed from the band, and then Ximena replaces her, and Ximena just shreds. I love that opening Jimena, where you just, like, on stage with her and. Yeah, she's just incredible. And she's still out there doing her thing. I mean, she was professional then. She's professional now. Look, we have her. Her solo.

[B]

This is her right, which is her soul. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

You were so impressed by the band.

[B]

We're almost like. It's like at a time that he has courteous was. You know, he's trying to get her a gig.

[A]

We have to take a break.

[B]

Do you have to go anywhere at all? Can you hang out for a bit? Okay, good. We have to take a commercial break. They make us do that here. Bobby, where you gonna be this weekend? Let's just do this weekend.

[C]

I'm. Dude, I'm not gonna be anywhere until I'm in Sarasota in January. I'm not working until January, so just go to punch up live Robert Kelly for my dates for the rest of the year. Starting in January, I'll be at McCurdy's in Sarasota.

[B]

I'm gonna be in. I'm in Irvine, California this Thursday through Saturday at the Improv. Yeah, Irvine Improv and then Milwaukee Improv. New Year's Eve through New Year's Eve weekend. And of course, can you bring up our guest plugs, please? I know the name of the documentary, but I want to make sure I have the thing right. Coreyfilm.com Correct. Marc Humes. Corey Feldman vs. The World. Available right now. Corey Film will come back and talk more of the doc. So many more questions. So many more questions With Venmo.

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