Judgement Night with Jeremy Piven

Summary

The Bonfire w/ Big Jay Oakerson & Robert Kelly

Episode: Judgment Night with Jeremy Piven
Date: October 2, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Bonfire, hosted by Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly, features Emmy-winning actor and stand-up comedian Jeremy Piven as a special guest. The trio—true to the show's ethos—blend sharp comedy, industry stories, and personal confessions. They riff on Piven’s stand-up pivot, reflect on cult films and television, roast each other over past humiliations, and dig deep into the mechanics of stand-up, Hollywood, and the perils of crossing into new creative lanes. The tone is brash, fast, confessional, and full of signature Bonfire banter.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Legend of the Jeremy "Piven" Flyer

• [02:18–07:44]
  • The show starts with hilarious banter about "Piven" flyers—promotional materials Piven once left behind, some inadvertently edited to look like he's in blackface, which turned into an inside Bonfire game ("pivens" became rewards for guests).
  • Piven shares the awkwardness about physically handing out these flyers and how people's confusion often turns into genuine curiosity:

    "They want to punch you in the face, and then they look up and see it's me... Why are you doing this? And then it leads to a conversation." – Jeremy Piven [05:11]

  • The hosts detail how limited edition “pivens” became like bitcoin in their community—coveted and numerically tracked.

2. The Trials of Transitioning from Acting to Stand-Up

• [06:24–09:13]
  • Piven candidly discusses the difficulty of starting stand-up as a known actor, lacking the ability to "fail in the dark” and having to catch up on hard-won stagecraft:

    "I dare you to even name, beside Robin Williams, a prolific…" "No matter… Even though I've been on stage since I was eight, if you don't get those reps, you don't have a shot." – Jeremy Piven [21:17, 21:47]

  • He recounts bombing at clean charity gigs and being oblivious to the expected tone:

    "No one said do clean… My closing bit was… have you had so much cum squirted in your face... and everyone goes, literally a fucking room filled with people that have had their…" "It was beyond a disaster… The next day in the papers it was just like they were horrified." – Jeremy Piven [26:35]

3. Dancing with the Stars & Celebrity Reality TV

• [09:17–18:24]
  • The guys unpack the latest in Dancing with the Stars, riffing on Corey Feldman's elimination and low-effort celebrity dance moves.

    "All the other performers… first of all, are killing it for the most part. Andy Richter, who doesn't even dance… is still in the contest." – Big Jay Oakerson [12:59]

  • They act out what it would be like to be asked to join such a show:

    “Would you go on? Let's act it out... Yes!” – Robert Kelly [11:24]

  • Piven praises authenticity, regardless of skill:

    "The highest vibration in this life is authenticity… and that's his authentic self." – Jeremy Piven [14:28]

4. The Pain and Humor of Comic Gigs & Humiliation

• [18:24–38:41]
  • Kelly describes the pain of bombing at corporate gigs and the humiliation of dressing as Cupid for Cameo videos at his wife's suggestion:

    “My wife one year… You should dress up… as Cupid, and you can do it for your fans…” – Bobby Kelly [34:02]

  • The hosts mercilessly roast him, with Piven laughing at Kelly's $50 price for a full Cupid act:

    "What did you make for that particular cameo?" – Jeremy Piven [35:02] "Was it $50? $50 you got in a goddamn Cupid outfit." – Jeremy Piven [35:19]

5. Jeremy Piven’s Film and TV Retrospective

• [41:44–47:55]
  • Jay and Bobby catalog Piven’s cult filmography, especially films like PCU, Smoking Aces, and Judgment Night:

    "PCU was one of the first things I ever saw you in… I saw it 700 times as a kid and loved it." – Big Jay Oakerson [42:12] "Smoking Aces is up there with True Romance as far as cast..." – Bobby Kelly [42:58]

  • Piven reflects on movies’ rewatchability and notes how younger fans are rediscovering Entourage:

    "I got kids coming up to me, late teens, early 20s, screaming, 'Ari!'… during the pandemic, they’ve been binging it." – Jeremy Piven [45:18]

  • He shares backstories, like being mistaken for actually using drugs in Smoking Aces due to authentic acting.

6. Hollywood, Controversial Roles, and Method Acting

• [47:55–62:18]
  • They discuss the possibility of Entourage-style shows in today's world, the persistent draw of old-school storytelling, and working with controversial material.
  • Piven jokes about being a "grower, not a shower" during nude scenes [51:03], and recounts filming the infamous Very Bad Things with a porn star, not knowing her background.
  • Reflects on shooting Judgment Night in Chicago; confronts anti-Semitism on set (swastika on his mark), and discusses "method" acting gone wrong:

    "Everlast and these dudes… Bro, we were in character… That's not method, that's anti-Semitism." – Jeremy Piven [58:33]

  • Praise for Andrew Dice Clay both as a comic and actor.

7. Closing Out: Tour Announcements and More Roasting

• [63:34–End]
  • Jeremy plugs upcoming stand-up dates; Jay and Bobby shout their own dates and mock each other’s promotional tactics.
  • The hosts threaten more friendly humiliations and suggest explanations for any future Cupid sightings ("just say it was Jeff Ross" – Jeremy Piven [64:11]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Confusing Flyers:
  "I looked down and I was in blackface on a flyer… so I apologize for being honest with whatever was going on with my face."
  – Jeremy Piven [02:44]

• On Standup:
  "If you don't get those reps, you don't have a shot."
  – Jeremy Piven [21:47]

• On Corporate/Charity Gigs:
  "I've said yes to performing… at my friend's stepfather’s memorial. They wanted a comedian… they all know each other and don't pay attention."
  – Big Jay Oakerson [30:05]

• On Movie Rewatchability:
  "People watched Old School 70 times… that doesn't happen anymore."
  – Big Jay Oakerson [42:39]

• On Younger Fans:
  "I'm going, bro, I got moisturizer on my face that’s older than you are."
  – Jeremy Piven [45:48]

• On Controversial Set Experiences:
  "It’s not method, that's anti-Semitism."
  – Jeremy Piven, referring to finding a swastika on his mark [58:33]

• On Humiliation for Low Pay:
  "Was it $50? You got in a goddamn Cupid outfit."
  – Jeremy Piven [35:19]

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Timestamped Highlights

| Timestamp | Segment | |------------|---------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:18–07:44| Piven flyer origin story, “pivens” as Bonfire currency | | 09:17–18:24| Dancing with the Stars, Corey Feldman’s exit, TV schmoozing | | 21:17–26:35| Piven’s first stand-up gig, learning curve, and bombing stories| | 34:02–39:01| Bobby’s humiliating Cameo Cupid story | | 41:44–47:55| Filmography, cult classics, Entourage’s ongoing appeal | | 56:03–59:04| Judgment Night, filming in Chicago, encountering bigotry | | 62:18–End | Dice, method acting, tour plugs, final roasts |

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Tone, Flow, and Takeaways

The episode is a rollicking, sometimes chaotic ride through Jeremy Piven’s recent comedy career, Hollywood anecdotes, and the unglamorous realities of the business. The hosts and their guest are brutally honest and endlessly self-deprecating, drawing big laughs from cringe-inducing moments—whether on stage, on set, or dressed as Cupid for $50. Through it all, the episode celebrates the highs, lows, awkwardness, and inside jokes that come with being in entertainment, from every angle.

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For Fans and New Listeners:
This episode is a masterclass in comedic self-reflection, back-room stories, and how to keep pushing—and laughing—no matter where you start or end up in show business. Expect plenty of honesty, rapid-fire jokes, and the special chemistry only a couple of road-seasoned comedians and a game celebrity guest can deliver.

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Transcript

[Bobby Kelly]

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[Jeremy Piven]

He has arisen.

[Bobby Kelly]

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[Big J Okerson]

What?

[Bobby Kelly]

What? With a star studded premiere including Jenna Elfman, Nancy Travis and. Hey, buddy. A big home improvement reunion welcome.

[Jeremy Piven]

Oh, boy, that guy's a tool.

[Bobby Kelly]

Shifting gears. New Wednesdays, 8, 7 Central on AB and stream on Hulu.

[Jeremy Piven]

And now the bonfire with big J. Okerson and Robert Kelly.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, I'll give you a little taste of the Cypress Hill and brand new heavies.

[Bobby Kelly]

Sonic Youth.

[Big J Okerson]

Almost.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

It's one of my favorite songs from one of my favorite soundtracks. It's one of my favorite movies. Judgment Night. That's right.

[Bobby Kelly]

Judgment night with my dear friend who lives in my town, Dennis Leary.

[Big J Okerson]

You son of a bitch.

[Bobby Kelly]

Dennis Leary, my close friend. We had lunch two weeks ago.

[Big J Okerson]

Did you?

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah, we did brag.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah. I'll tell you what.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

You haven't mentioned it till this moment right now.

[Bobby Kelly]

Well, I don't talk about. You know what I mean. Those.

[Big J Okerson]

I don't like lunches with Leary.

[Bobby Kelly]

I don't. Yeah, but lunches with Larry, I don't. It used to be lunches with Lenny Marcus and now, now it's lunches with Leary.

[Big J Okerson]

What a downgrade.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, we went to the Blue Dolphin. Very nice place.

[Big J Okerson]

It's the bonfire faction talk series XM103. I'm Big J Okerson. That is the great Robert Kelly. We are joined in studio with a guest right out of the gates. He's going to be at Sony hall in New York City October 19th. After that, Irvine, California. Addison, Texas. It is a legend to me. Mr. Jeremy Piven in the house.

[Jeremy Piven]

Perfect.

[Bobby Kelly]

Pause.

[Jeremy Piven]

It's an honor to be here. By the way. I love you guys.

[Big J Okerson]

Perfect.

[Jeremy Piven]

From afar. But now we're very close.

[Big J Okerson]

Very, very, very exciting to have you here. We. What you call. We said when we were in the hallway, Jacob said Jeremy came to the studio earlier and saw the flyers.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah, Jimmy Pippin flyers.

[Big J Okerson]

And he thought you were upset with them.

[Jeremy Piven]

I don't know if I read it wrong or not. No, your energy makes me upset. I had nothing to do with the flyers.

[Big J Okerson]

You know why?

[Jeremy Piven]

No.

[Big J Okerson]

I'm such a fan.

[Jeremy Piven]

I was like, did he get upset? No, no. I was just confused. I. I looked down and I was in blackface on a flyer, and you know what I mean? So it was kind. The idea of, you know. Yeah. I. You know, the having to explain yourself for a flyer didn't make. You know. So I apologize for being honest with whatever was going on with my face.

[Big J Okerson]

No, that's his face.

[Bobby Kelly]

Every day. Puts us in that movie.

[Big J Okerson]

Yes.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

Because, you know, he's always that face.

[Jeremy Piven]

Okay.

[Big J Okerson]

I forgot about these. Yeah, these were great. So what happened to explain the story?

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

Is that a year ago, I forgot about. I forgot the blackface ones. Black History Month a year ago or so, you had done, I guess, an interview in here in this very studio with somebody and had a stack of flyers for your show. You were doing that year West Nyack, I believe.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah. And I hate to brag, but I do the gigs, guys. I'll be there in December.

[Big J Okerson]

I'm there in December.

[Bobby Kelly]

Okay. They won't use me.

[Big J Okerson]

Bobby can't even get in there. So they were sitting in here, and I said that I was. I said on the show, we made a bit that I'll put. I'm gonna make value to these, that when people just do well on the show. I'm a whip, you a piven. You're getting a pivin sent your way. And people would start to cherish these. Just a piece of paper with Jeremy Piven's face on.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's a pivot.

[Big J Okerson]

It's a piven. I believe I've been on the road where somebody got the. Not the blackface one. Yeah, but are they all the blackface ones, guys? There we go. Yeah. Thank you.

[Jeremy Piven]

But not only is it blackface, but I got the kid and play kind of sit situation going on with the hair. So it's a full disrespect to the black community.

[Big J Okerson]

It's beyond black face, and it goes more into just overall. We just blacked you. We just completely blacked you.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's a full disrespect to them, but it's a respect to you.

[Jeremy Piven]

It's a respect to my hairline. That's an upgrade. Are you kidding me?

[Big J Okerson]

A full respect. But these things got so popular that people were yelling at shows. They want a piven. Somebody got a tattoo of the flyer with the. With those dates. From West Nia. I swear to God.

[Bobby Kelly]

Here's the thing. Because Jay, the genius that Jay is, he made them like bitcoin.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

There's only a certain amount of pivots.

[Big J Okerson]

They were number. Oh, yes.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah. You can't. You can't just get a pit.

[Big J Okerson]

The pivots were also numbered.

[Bobby Kelly]

We did a live show where we gave. Where the audience would get a pivot and some. But we have to give them back. That's the rule at the end of every show.

[Big J Okerson]

Always have to account for all the pivots.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, for the pivots.

[Jeremy Piven]

So here. You know, what's so interesting is the reality of those flyers is I hand them out on the streets for real. So, you know, you're never too old to walk around and hand out flyers, because what happens is, as you guys know, if you approach someone with a flyer, they're horrified. They want to punch you in the face, and then they look up and they see it's me, and they go, why? What's. Why are you doing this? And then it's confusion, and then it leads to a conversation. Why are you in town? I didn't know you did stand up. And then suddenly everybody wins.

[Big J Okerson]

That is grassroots.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah, it's grassroots.

[Big J Okerson]

It's really getting in there.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah. It's either really tragic or admirable. I don't know which it is.

[Bobby Kelly]

It can be both.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah, it can be both at the same time.

[Bobby Kelly]

It can be admiral during the day, and then late at night, back in your hotel room. Tragic.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

It would be dope if you were walking around the West Nyack Mall and Jeremy Piven offered you a flyer to his show. He'd be like, we have to go.

[Bobby Kelly]

I used to get stickers made with all my stuff on it. And I remember I g. I would sit there at the end of the show, and I gave them all out, and as I was walking to my car, I was just walking by all my stickers like. Like a trail. So as the people go to the car, they're just throwing my stickers out. It was one of the saddest nights of my life. I just picked up my stickers, almost all of them.

[Jeremy Piven]

But that's part of why. And I'm hoping you guys are honest with me. It's so interesting, because speaking of Piven's pivot. There we go. That's. That's what pivins pivot into. Stand up.

[Big J Okerson]

You just got yourself a pivot, my man.

[Jeremy Piven]

I love it. Thank you, sir. Well done.

[Big J Okerson]

That's the kind of Wordplay that gets you a pivot in this room.

[Bobby Kelly]

I'm gonn this, too. The first Piven is the best pivot.

[Big J Okerson]

It is.

[Bobby Kelly]

That's a good pivot to get.

[Jeremy Piven]

Okay. I like it. I'm honored.

[Bobby Kelly]

You got to give it back, though. You can't.

[Jeremy Piven]

You know, because the reality is, as you guys know how hard standup is, and there I. I dare you to even name beside Robin Williams, a prolific. By the way, my microphone has been drooping since the moment. Can we just get some.

[Big J Okerson]

Damn it, Jacob.

[Jeremy Piven]

No, it's all good. I just want the black guy to help me, please.

[Big J Okerson]

Black blue. Not twice. If you're okay with the Black Piven posters, Jay.

[Bobby Kelly]

I'm not in charge. I'm not in charge of the Pivens, but I think that deserves a black Piven.

[Big J Okerson]

A black Piven. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You know what? I was slipping. Damn. Yes. The black Pivens, by the way, how you slipping? Black history? Black History Month came up, and then we did a game where the. The Pivens were the prize and Black Lou. Black Lou made the black Piven, so it's okay.

[Jeremy Piven]

That's. That's crazy. I can't tell if I'm just being absolutely made fun of or celebrated, but that's the way life is.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, it's definitely not made fun of at all. That's guarantee. It was pure chance that this was in here. We just decided to do the thing the one day. It could have been a po. It could have been a flyer of anything.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, we're trying to just fill top.

[Big J Okerson]

We had a stack of them, so. Yeah. So I was like, hey, everyone, you could get a pivot if you do well. No, no Making fun of it all.

[Bobby Kelly]

Here's the problem with the Pivens. They became so valuable in here. I mean, I'm literally.

[Big J Okerson]

I.

[Bobby Kelly]

Everybody wanted a pivot. Christine never. She actually got negative pivots.

[Big J Okerson]

She was in pivot deficit, which is pretty funny. She would have had to win 10 pivens to just be neutral.

[Jeremy Piven]

What the hell?

[Paco]

For some reason, the negatives would stay.

[Bobby Kelly]

With you after the show. It didn't end, so I would come.

[Paco]

In like negative 2 pivens.

[Bobby Kelly]

It was really a.

[Jeremy Piven]

This is the sound of people at home going, what if the. Are these people?

[Big J Okerson]

No, they have. They know exactly what we're talking about. If we were offering Piv right now over the phone, the phone lines would light up.

[Jeremy Piven]

Do you know what? I'm Ukrainian, by the way. The name Piven is And I'm not making this up. It means singing cock.

[Big J Okerson]

Really?

[Jeremy Piven]

Yes. It means rooster. Okay. And I am as you look at me. I'm identical to Zelensky. We're both Jewish. We're both actors. Stand up, comics. Men of incredible courage. He's fighting an evil tyrant. I'm fighting hair loss and wrinkles. Good night, everyone. Thank you for coming. You didn't know that I was going to start doing bits?

[Big J Okerson]

Bobby was planning on it.

[Jeremy Piven]

We were hoping. Hoping for bits.

[Big J Okerson]

We have a thousand things. I know everybody in this room wants to talk to you about or ask you. Hopefully you haven't been asked a thousand times. But before we dive all the way in, I do have to say, because people are going to wonder. It's the end of the week for us here. It's our last show, so Corey Feldman let us all down yesterday. We tried to start a movement to make sure that he stayed into Dancing with the Stars. And all we needed from him was a moderately decent performance, and we could have made that happen, but we could get nothing out of him. He has officially been kicked off the show. The first elimination.

[Bobby Kelly]

A positive attitude.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah. Wait, Turn it up if you're gonna show it.

[Bobby Kelly]

Wow.

[Big J Okerson]

He comes out to baby got back.

[Jeremy Piven]

Okay. It's a good.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, man. He can't even get up.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, the outfit.

[Big J Okerson]

The. The. The hip hold was my favorite. That's where he lost me.

[Bobby Kelly]

Okay.

[Big J Okerson]

It's the arm he does. He's very stiff. Everything's very stiff. I had so many plans for this season of Dancing with the Stars of every week. The new wonderment he was going to bring into my life with the next crazy dance he tried.

[Bobby Kelly]

Do you know the Robots at Boston Dynamic Dance better than Corey. That's nuts.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, oh, oh.

[Jeremy Piven]

I think the variable should have been. Someone should have slipped him some ayahuasca, you know what I mean? Just so he could have been, you know, just really let loose. How great would that have been?

[Bobby Kelly]

Either way, it would have been good.

[Big J Okerson]

Pause it.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

Pause it.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

Look how serious he is.

[Big J Okerson]

No, no, that's exactly what I want to point out here. Yeah, this is great, because I watched the whole episode again. The only two episodes of Turns Out I'm ever gonna watch Dancing with the Stars. But the. Everybody else, actually.

[Bobby Kelly]

I'm hooked.

[Big J Okerson]

I know you are.

[Bobby Kelly]

I'm in.

[Jeremy Piven]

What would you guys honestly say if your. Your agents and your bookers and everyone came to you and said, look, we got an offer for Dancing with the Stars.

[Bobby Kelly]

Let's act it out. You're an actor. Let's do a little scene. Good. You're my agent. Ask me.

[Jeremy Piven]

Okay, listen, you're probably gonna say no and this is gonna be awkward, but we got something here. Yes.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yes.

[Jeremy Piven]

Let's go in. Let's do it. Okay, great. You start at 7:30 in the morning.

[Bobby Kelly]

So you're saying I have an agent.

[Big J Okerson]

Right? Bobby. Bobby. Be dancing on TV in two seconds. What am I doing?

[Bobby Kelly]

Seconds.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh my God.

[Bobby Kelly]

I do magic.

[Big J Okerson]

There's things I would do. I know I could be talked into many things. Any kind of celebrity. I'd go get my ass kicked on Celebrity Jeopardy. Or a Wheel of Fortune or a Family Feud. I would. Could be talked into the Masked Singer, which I believe I am at the. The level of. It is fun when someone keeps pointing out that the people they guess it's going to be on the Masked Singer and who it ends up being is so funny. Like when they're always like, I know. That is. Yeah, it's Robert De Niro. Yeah, I know De Niro's voice anywhere.

[Jeremy Piven]

It's Drake.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, because.

[Jeremy Piven]

Because they really need to do this.

[Bobby Kelly]

Van Dyke dying in a costume.

[Big J Okerson]

It's not even that.

[Jeremy Piven]

Someone who has 11 minutes to live. That's who it is.

[Big J Okerson]

It's Guillermo from Kimmel. Oh, I swore that was Pacino. Damn, dude, I gotta get my voice recognition better. But I would do math. Singer. Dancing with the Stars. The risk to reward ratio of not looking like a buffoon to everybody, you know, is the thing when he does this. What was amazing is all the other performers on the show, first of all, are killing it for the most part. Andy Richter, who doesn't even dance, he just stands there kind of while a girl dances. We'll show his dance too. He's still in the contest.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

He didn't get booted because he's, he's.

[Bobby Kelly]

He'S chubby and he's adorable.

[Big J Okerson]

He's trying.

[Bobby Kelly]

People like him. He likes. He know and he's self deprecating. I'm gonna be out.

[Big J Okerson]

They got rid of Alec Baldwin's wife. And I have a real feeling that's got to do with him being floating around the back all day that they're.

[Bobby Kelly]

Just like, all right, it's not the nine kids. She has screaming and yelling.

[Big J Okerson]

Also probably the nine kids screaming and yelling. But she. Because she's a good dancer. Yeah, undeniably. Andy Richter's not dancing and she's a good dancer. And they booted her off. That's definitely a. We just need to get you out of Here kind of thing. Corey Feldman scored fives across the board, but when everyone else is done dancing, immediately their faces are, like, smiling. Even Topanga from Boy Meets World, she flubs her last thing and comes back like. Like, she's smiling right away. She's, like, laughing about it. Like, ah, shit. You know, I fucking. Whatever. And good energy. When he's done, when he holds his move, they're gonna do a zoom in close up of his face. He's still, like, everybody else has, like, the. Oh, my God, we did it. Energy. He goes. He's holding his thing still going. He's still keeping his Michael Jackson face of seriousness back up five seconds and you'll see. I want you to see the approach.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah. Smiling is dancing. You have to smile. That's, like, part of it.

[Big J Okerson]

Why is he this intense? He just danced to Baby Got Back. He just danced like the. That's crazy. Holy.

[Paco]

He just realized he sucks.

[Jeremy Piven]

No, I think that's, you know, that's who he is, and I appreciate that. You know, the highest vibration in this life is authenticity. You know what I mean? And that's his authentic self. You know what I mean?

[Big J Okerson]

Sure.

[Jeremy Piven]

He's doubling down on absolutely nothing.

[Big J Okerson]

Absolutely nothing.

[Jeremy Piven]

And I love it.

[Big J Okerson]

That's what I say. Why I'm intrigued by him because I do mean. And I'm not talking about acting. I'm talking about all of his music and now dancing. Let's jump over to. I said it's a thousand percent effort. Zero percent talent is maybe my favorite thing to watch. It's so great.

[Jeremy Piven]

My next special, by the way, that's amazing. But it does work for a lot of people.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Just maximum effort. Just keep showing up. It has sort of worked for him because he gives all the effort. So people now come to watch, like, the shit show when he does music.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

No one's ever there. Like, I hope he plays whatever tonight. I hope he does more of his early stuff. No one knows the.

[Bobby Kelly]

There's got to be a couple people that are like. Like, I can't wait to see him. He has to have a couple real fans that. You know what I mean?

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

I mean, there has to be even. There's certain comics, like that fan who everybody gives to. He has a couple fans that are.

[Big J Okerson]

Like, he's got a billion fans.

[Bobby Kelly]

No, he does a show in his basement in Jersey.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh. For a while, he went over, like, to.

[Bobby Kelly]

I'm gonna do it. If you want to do Asia, you're.

[Big J Okerson]

Doing that fans podcast.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah. No, it's his Show. He does a comedy show.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, it's a stand up show on Zoom.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

Is this true?

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, I'm doing it. We should do it.

[Big J Okerson]

We should all stop by basement somewhere.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah, there's nothing stop by. There's nothing better than those Zoom comedy shows. You're right, man. Let's circle back to that.

[Big J Okerson]

We're gonna put a pin in it. I'm gonna say tentative yes.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

A tentative, tentative yes. But needless to say, he got last place in the voting. Please show Andy Richter. Show the no effort he gave.

[Jeremy Piven]

I don't remember a time in my entire life when we weren't talking about Dancing with the Stars.

[Big J Okerson]

I know.

[Jeremy Piven]

You know what I mean? Time is taking on a new meaning. There's a new timeline.

[Big J Okerson]

It's always coming up. It always comes up somehow. Dinners, events.

[Jeremy Piven]

Okay.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, Christina's just reminded me it probably is gonna rain. I brought both umbrellas, but I didn't bring either of them with me.

[Bobby Kelly]

But here's it. Can I stop for a second? They're giving certain people a lot more production than they're giving our boy. I mean, Irwin got a jeep and a jungle safari theme. This guy. I mean, this is like a little scene. They're, they're, they're making it more entertaining for certain people.

[Big J Okerson]

Well, he picked Baby Got Back and they're doing It's Raining Men. It's a funner song.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's a better song.

[Jeremy Piven]

I think he knows how to schmooze people and I think you should take note.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Jeremy Piven]

You know what I mean?

[Big J Okerson]

You gotta do the schmooze.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, I'm not good at schmoozing.

[Big J Okerson]

I'm the worst schmoozer.

[Bobby Kelly]

I'm a bad schmooze.

[Jeremy Piven]

I'm a late bloomer to it.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bobby, you're good at schmoozing.

[Bobby Kelly]

I'm good at schmoozing, but not with, not with the. I'm good at schmoozing with regular people. I'm. As soon as I get around famous people, you know, I'm done.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, I, I'm shut off.

[Bobby Kelly]

I shut off.

[Big J Okerson]

I'm the worst. Yeah, let's watch Raining Men.

[Bobby Kelly]

Let's do it.

[Big J Okerson]

Andy Rich.

[Bobby Kelly]

He gets two dancers.

[Big J Okerson]

Well, no, they always have like a group around them.

[Bobby Kelly]

But they're playing to his thing, his cuteness.

[Big J Okerson]

Yes. They're also having her flashing gash a little bit, which ain't hurting. Now Andy Richter is walking in a circle and a lot of it.

[Bobby Kelly]

He just kissed her. Give a wink.

[Big J Okerson]

Gave a little wink. No, it's all personality.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's all personality.

[Big J Okerson]

He's still in.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

Corey Feldman sent home.

[Bobby Kelly]

This is like when I used to a stool on stage, it would murder. Oh, yeah, yeah, the old stool.

[Jeremy Piven]

Man, what a great bit that was.

[Bobby Kelly]

It was.

[Jeremy Piven]

No, it's not done enough.

[Bobby Kelly]

It is. No, it is now.

[Big J Okerson]

Did you do stand up, like early in your career too?

[Jeremy Piven]

I. I started at Second city in the 90s with Chris Farley back in the day.

[Big J Okerson]

So nothing. So improv.

[Jeremy Piven]

Improv and sketch comedy. And then this is A funny Story. The first time I ever got up, my agent said, what about the Aspen? I mean, the comedy festival in. In Montreal. Montreal. Thank you. The biggest comedy festival in the world. Montreal.

[Bobby Kelly]

Not anymore.

[Jeremy Piven]

Well, it was, it was back in the day. I'm 200 years old, so back in the day. So I said, you know, and I trusted him and he goes, yeah. And I had no background as a stand up, you know, way back in the day. Anyway, smash cut to I show up, what is needed of me. And I'm not making this up because this is literally the standups nightmare. They said, here's the deal. And I go to the. It's about, you know, 3,500 seat theater. And they're like, well, it's going to be tomorrow and it's live TV and you're hosting and you're going to do a quick 20. I swear to you. You'll do a quick 20. 20 what? 20 minutes of what? Stand up quick. I said, oh, I've never done stand up. They go, no, you'll be fine, you'll be fine. Live television, 20, 20 minutes of stand up. And so. And then they said, here's the deal, we got six, seven comics. You'll do a quick five minute wraparound each one of them. Now do the math on this.

[Big J Okerson]

And now you're up to 40, 50 minutes.

[Jeremy Piven]

50 minutes. And so I sat there and we started brainstorming and they go, look, here's the deal. Just give us a funny story right now. Something weird that happened to you in your life. And I told the story about being with my mom and we went to the Golden Globes and she literally froze. And it just madness. I go, fine, whatever, Whatever that story is. Your through line as an actor is you're gonna get up on stage on live television, you're gonna begin to tell that story and then plant various people in the audience and then so start to do some awkward crowd work, you know what I mean? So that story is your through line. And we're gonna interrupt you for 20 minutes now. I've never seen the bit. I don. Want to look at it because no, it's terrifying. And I was too dumb then to know. Now I've been on the road since whatever. And so I understand how ridiculous and insane what I did was. So I can't ever look at it. So I somehow did it and we navigated the whole thing. But it's one of those things where, you know, the less you know, the better.

[Big J Okerson]

Well, sort of. But though there definitely is to that. But almost to what Bobby said when he was talking about the stool fucking. So it's interesting starting comedy like later and already having a name. The expectation holds where it's like you, you're not allowed. You're almost like not afforded the ability to have all the early comedy mistake. Like they expect you to be passed a lot because you have life experience ones. There's plenty to talk about, which is good. But you don't have the experience in presenting like stories like that.

[Jeremy Piven]

Well, what I understood very quickly after navigating that and then going and doing all the, you know, the Dime Bar, you know, in front of three people that are waiting to see the dj, you know, and all the. The stuff. So people are like, you're not a real comic. You haven't gone through the open mics and blah, blah. But I put myself in these terrible situations. Five to eight shows a week, couple hundred shows a year. And the reality is, no matter. Even though I've been on stage since I was eight, if I. If you don't get those reps, you don't have a shot.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Jeremy Piven]

At all. And by the way, as you guys know more than anyone, after a few minutes, you know, if you don't have it, you're.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Jeremy Piven]

Completely.

[Bobby Kelly]

On those galas, my first gala that I did for them, they told, you're gonna be crystal clean. You gotta be clean. You can't. And I'm not a. I. I need to say I. It's just in my thing.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

And when you take that out of me, it's very hard to have me. I'm somebody else. And I remember I was bombing so bad at that gala. I had to do this bit where I have to. I do a walk away from the crowd and it's supposed to be. I'm supposed to be getting huge laughs as I'm walking away. So then the walk back, I'm kind of walking back on the end of the laughs. That's what happened. I did the bit. There's no Laughs I'm just walking away from the crowd in silence.

[Big J Okerson]

You hear the step, footsteps.

[Bobby Kelly]

And then I had to walk back to them and go, anyways.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, Christ.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, that's when you know you're bad. When your agent went, you look good.

[Big J Okerson]

I always follow at a gal. I always follow someone who's so TV clean. Awesome. Like destroy. The last one was the Sklar brothers just murdered.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

And then like, get out there.

[Bobby Kelly]

You know, when I. I figured it out, Bob Marley came in one night. You know Bob Marley from Maine? He came in late, after everybody was killing, and he just went up and did his. He just went up, put his hat on the thing, blah, blah, blah, blah. Lost his mind. I was like, I'm never listening to any of these people ever again. I'm never listening to what a manager can go, agent can off. I'm going out and just doing what I do. If they tell me I'm a piece of, fine. If they don't laugh, fine. But at least you do it your. And I've. After that, I've never. I've had great galas after that, but.

[Big J Okerson]

Could you imagine what was. How much time did you do on stage first time you went on stage? I did three minutes.

[Bobby Kelly]

The first time I went on stage. Yeah, it was. It was a five minute set of Catch A Rising Star at Harvard Square that was run by David Cross, Marc Maron. It was all alternative comics.

[Big J Okerson]

Those guys hate you.

[Bobby Kelly]

They hated my family. They hated my mom.

[Jeremy Piven]

Why did they hate you?

[Bobby Kelly]

Because I was the other side.

[Big J Okerson]

I was the silly, not thought provoking.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, I was very silly and goofy. I remember the outro was Robert Kelly. People are so different than me. And I heard my mom go, what the fuck does that mean?

[Big J Okerson]

They actually told me, great, dude, if your mom beat up David Cross.

[Bobby Kelly]

They told me to go up to my family beforehand. They're like, hey, I don't let. Because I had like 15 people. Like, hey, tell them to keep it down. I don't want them laughing just at you. Hysterically. I was like. And I'm such new. I walked up, I was like, hey, guys, could you not, you know, go crazy when I'm up there? Like, what? I don't understand it either.

[Big J Okerson]

I love you. Just did it. Yeah, that's almost what I'm saying. For 20 minutes the first time to be. You have to go up there and do 20 minutes. I would.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, but he's also. You would have cried, but he also. You. You are a great storyteller.

[Jeremy Piven]

Thank you.

[Bobby Kelly]

You can go on, you know, like, going on the panel on tv, doing all that stuff is. Is Stan. You know you have that thing in you, right?

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

We're starting behind the eight ball.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah. The stage. It's definitely a place where I'm very real quick. Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

A piven behind the eight ball. That was fantastic. Oh, you didn't get a black pivot. That's a white piven. I know the eight ball, but I get it. But no.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah, I mean, I'm very comfortable up there. And. And I've been taking direction since I was a kid. So literally that direction to me was like, oh, I'll just do that. And they were like. They were kind of shocked that I could pull that off. But again, I. It just. You have to embrace it and have a good time now. It's funny about the clean comedy that I didn't have a reference for. And I did this charity event because I have the hugest heart in Hollywood ever. And I did.

[Bobby Kelly]

And not the humblest.

[Jeremy Piven]

No, no, I'm very humble. Very fucking humble, bro. Don't worry about number one.

[Big J Okerson]

Number one.

[Jeremy Piven]

Number one most humble motherfucker.

[Bobby Kelly]

I'm gonna have to take your humble button back.

[Jeremy Piven]

So they basically. I didn't understand that the evening was to raise money for. And I'm not making this up. People who have been scalded in the face, they raise money to get plastic surgery to change their face. And my closing bit, and no one said, do clean. And you were supposed to do clean. I didn't know my closing bit was. I say, you know, I do lines with my mom. I mean, I run lines. Sorry, don't do lines with your mom. And I do act out. Me doing cocaine with my mom. And then I say, my mom, because she's been my acting teacher since I was a kid. I run lines with her. And. And then I said. I even did, you know, Ari Gold with her. And I acted. It's an act out. And she goes, action. And I go, lloyd, have you had so much cum squirted in your face? And everyone goes, literally a fucking room filled with people that have had their.

[Bobby Kelly]

So beyond raw clean. I was talking about doing a duty joke.

[Jeremy Piven]

No, I was just talking about getting cum scored in, you know, because these are lines from the show. And it was. I mean, it was beyond a disaster. Like, I've never seen, like, in real time. The next day they were just like, you know. You know, you.

[Bobby Kelly]

You.

[Jeremy Piven]

You make jokes about, like, oh, the papers are gonna say bombs. Like, the next day in the papers, it was Just like they were horrified. You know what I mean? Screaming like, you know, come in your face.

[Bobby Kelly]

Here's the thing in comedy world that's legend for us to hear that. It's like fucking good for you. But it's like when Patrice did a. Patrice. Louis CK, Nick DePaolo and Greg Geraldo. Battered woman's batter already.

[Jeremy Piven]

It's a disaster.

[Bobby Kelly]

Patrice did a joke. He goes, he was doing these jokes at the time about what college boys jokes. And he said, yeah, you ever do the. The angry pirate? He's like, that's when you, you come in a girl's eye, kick her in the shin, and she hops around going, argh.

[Jeremy Piven]

Argh.

[Bobby Kelly]

I mean, dude. The next day in the paper, they went and got the worst photo of him. It looked like he just raped five girls and ran away.

[Big J Okerson]

It was just like he didn't think he ran away.

[Bobby Kelly]

True.

[Big J Okerson]

He found him sitting out of breath right next to them. He was a larger man.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, he is.

[Jeremy Piven]

Believe me, I know exactly who that is.

[Bobby Kelly]

Legendary. So here's the thing. They retold the joke in the paper.

[Jeremy Piven]

Oh, yeah, that always works.

[Bobby Kelly]

But here's the thing, it did work. It did work because she wrote, she put arg. So you're reading it and then you kick him in the shin, come in her eye, kick her in the shin. She hops around going, arg. And as soon as you read, you're like, arg. Everybody laughed at the joke in the paper because the dummy put arg.

[Jeremy Piven]

That's amazing.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, it was. He was on Fox with that. He did the joke on Fox and some lady was complaining about it and. But he did, he.

[Big J Okerson]

She said it to her again.

[Bobby Kelly]

She told the joke wrong. And he goes, not. You see, that's why you don't know funny. It's because of blah, blah, blah. And it says, oh. And you hear the camera guys going, he goes, they know funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

He went on. Patrice defended Imus in the nappy headed hose thing.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

He was like, if I. If he can't say navigated hoes, how can I say corny ass crack or something? I'm like, yeah, I guess he's right.

[Bobby Kelly]

Bombing at a charity event. Charity events in general for comedians. It's a hard thing because a lot of times they want to pay you. And it's like, I. I did one, they were giving me 1500 hauls and it was for two kids that passed away. And then it's like, I did this.

[Big J Okerson]

They don't need the money.

[Bobby Kelly]

Well, I did this the parents. It was for the parents. So. So I did this whole thing. I did like an hour. I. I had a blast. And then the guy went up at the end and did this tribute with the kids and everybody's crying. And then I just walked up and I handed him my check. I'm like, here. I can't. How do you walk out and take the money?

[Big J Okerson]

You should have walked yourself as a silhouette in front of the projector that was showing the walkthrough and be like, hey, can I get my money? I'm kind of parked in a weird spot. Just come through and fuck up the chair. I've been. I've said yes to performing. And my friends, Very close friend, but I didn't know her stepfather's like, memorial thing. They wanted a comedian to come through. Yeah, Any corporate thing I've ever. I've never gotten, like, the corporate, like, bargazi, where you're like, you're performing for Google in Vietnam, where it's like, everyone's there to, like, have a good time.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

My corporates are like, hey, they're getting one of those boats that goes around the water for three hours and they want you to come tell jokes while they all know each other and don't really pay attention.

[Bobby Kelly]

Corporates are the worst. For our. Our style of comics, you have to be clean. You have to have that ability to do that. Like Tonight show jokes like, Colin. Colin Quinn, he'll go and write a new hour on the company. I, you know, yeah, I'm showing up with what I got. I did one a year and a half ago. God damn it. Did I bomb 200 people? Did not. Like, we're talking and then four people sat. And there was like, like 20 chairs. Four people sat in it. I started to make fun of one of the guys jackets because I was just panicking. And he goes, not me. Go to somebody else. And it was the owner of the fucking faucet company. Like, the biggest kitchen, bathroom faucet company in the world.

[Big J Okerson]

It's also when they ask you to be clean, like, it's not that I can't. I always go, can you be clean? I go, I mean, I cannot curse, but I'm gonna be coming to you the whole time with questions like, can I say semen instead of come?

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

And then they're like, no. Like, whatever. The context is not gonna. Is gonna matter.

[Bobby Kelly]

Probably they see comics at a club and they're like, we should get one like a pet. Oh, and there is a. There is. There is a. A number for all of us to be a pet. To go and do a corporate and just be like, you know.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, but the problem is the number fluctuates through your life. Like, what that's worth. I did. I mean, I wouldn't do this again, but for like 150. Once I sat in a hotel room with 20 women while they. It was a bachelorette party and they wanted to have a comic come to the hotel room. I just sat in chairs with them and, like, talked to them, you know, I just was funny, like, like with them in a conversation. I said. I told him. I go, you guys, don't you think. You want me to stand up here and, like, tell jokes in the center of you? You don't want that. It's like a weird scenario. Yeah. Like, you guys want. You guys just want, like, bullshit. So I just kind of got them, like, making fun of them to each other.

[Bobby Kelly]

And I stood up on a table at Minetta Tavern after hours, and for some rich guy, for 200 bucks, I did 10 minutes.

[Big J Okerson]

God damn, we are pathetic. Jeremy, have you ever acted on a dime for somebody at a diner?

[Jeremy Piven]

I had a guy. I was just at the Wilbur Theater, and. And I was caught in one of these horrible moments where I was taking a selfie of myself outside in front of the thing, you know, and you're like, you feel like a f. But you got to get the word out. And I'm this guy, and I'm a fucking caveman. And I hear, yo, man, let me. Let me ask you a question. And it says, brother, and by the way, black guys. And this is going to get you. I just got your attention. Yeah, they. For whatever reason in Boston, they never get. Have you ever met about a black. I'm from Boston with a Boston accent.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's the best.

[Jeremy Piven]

It's in, but I've never heard it. It's shocking. Yeah, so. But this dude was like, yo, man, me and my girl love Rush Hour, man. And I was like, oh, thank you. And he goes, can you. Can. I swear to you, he goes, can you. Can you do it for me right now? You know, it's about a seven minute scene. And I go, no, man, I'm not gonna. He stood up and this was so big. And I go, so you got the mochachina skin and the big broad shoulders, you know, Buttercream, Buttercream. Cracked skin, buttercream. What's below the waist? Mystery meat. You know, I did the whole. So to answer your question, yeah, man, I. I am a dancing monkey.

[Big J Okerson]

You Know how many videos after comedy shows I made of somebody going, like, dude, my friend Rick couldn't show up. Tell me. He's a fussy.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

And you gotta go, and you're, like, being bullied. You're, like, by a smaller guy's guys. Arm around you, like, yeah, hey, Rick, you're a guys. Can I stop now?

[Bobby Kelly]

Nobody. Nobody can touch me when it comes to it.

[Big J Okerson]

It's for schmooze.

[Bobby Kelly]

Just because.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, Bobby, you'll take the camera because of cameo.

[Jeremy Piven]

There you go.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, you don't even know.

[Jeremy Piven]

Oh, yeah, no, I'm on it. I'm a.

[Bobby Kelly]

No, no, You. You were on it as you.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah. Oh, you do.

[Bobby Kelly]

I. My wife. One year.

[Big J Okerson]

Characters. Characters would be the wrong word for this.

[Jeremy Piven]

Okay. I.

[Bobby Kelly]

Let me tell you something. My wife, I still hate her for this. I almost left her for this.

[Big J Okerson]

You still should consider it.

[Bobby Kelly]

She. She talked to me. And. And. And the worst part is, is Dan Soder and him found it, which was like, I. I had it out in the open.

[Jeremy Piven]

Oh, no.

[Bobby Kelly]

I don't know why I had it in the open. You could.

[Jeremy Piven]

You had to find it.

[Big J Okerson]

It was. We went to Bobby's cameo page, and it was one of his. Get yourself something like this.

[Bobby Kelly]

My wife 1. One Valentine's Day was like, you should. You should. You should dress up. I'll make you an outfit as. As Cupid, and you can do it for your fans. You'll do a Cupid thing. And I was just like, A real.

[Big J Okerson]

Boston dude would have blacked her eye.

[Bobby Kelly]

I. And I was like, all right. And she made me this really nice Cupid outfit. She put a lot of work into it.

[Big J Okerson]

A nice Cupid outfit.

[Bobby Kelly]

It was pretty good. And I wound up doing it, not thinking about it. And it went away, Right? But it just went away.

[Jeremy Piven]

But let me ask you a question, and I hate to be this guy. What did you make for that particular cameo?

[Bobby Kelly]

I mean.

[Jeremy Piven]

I'm just trying. I'm trying to do the math on this.

[Big J Okerson]

That's the best part. That's the best part.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

Was it 50 bucks for $50?

[Jeremy Piven]

$50 you got in a goddamn Cupid outfit.

[Big J Okerson]

Bobby was morbidly obese.

[Bobby Kelly]

Pretty heavy at the time, but they got so. They got so mad at me that my rate was $50. They made me change it to a thousand. Yeah, here it is. Oh, God.

[Jeremy Piven]

What?

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, my God.

[Jeremy Piven]

What the. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

[Big J Okerson]

You look like the girl from this Is Us.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah, you do.

[Bobby Kelly]

I look like a guy, too.

[Jeremy Piven]

And you don't Mean Mandy Moore.

[Big J Okerson]

No, not Mandy Moore.

[Jeremy Piven]

By the way, that costume is amazing. Let's be honest.

[Bobby Kelly]

You know what? You're right. She did a great job.

[Jeremy Piven]

Crushed it.

[Bobby Kelly]

She crushed.

[Jeremy Piven]

You got to look at the pop. Positive, all right? The visuals are disturbing.

[Big J Okerson]

They're disturbing.

[Bobby Kelly]

Do you understand how. How. When I forgot about it, I just did this. I made maybe. I don't know. I probably got three cameos, and I had to do this. And if you let. And then I got a phone call. I didn't recognize the number, and I just heard his. And I knew the time frame when the show started, and I heard him, and. And then just. What the Are you. They were. They caught me doing heroin.

[Big J Okerson]

No, we sent him a picture. He was. He was doing a podcast with Ari Shafir, and we kept trying to call him. He didn't answer. And then he finally. He answered the phone, and I go, hey, Bobby, what are you doing? He goes, I'm doing a podcast with Ari. I go, you don't check your texts at all. We've been trying to call you on the show. And he goes, nah, let me check right now. And then he just goes, oh, no. Oh, no. We just sent him a picture of himself as Cupid. We're like. He like, oh. He goes, I'll call you back in five minutes. And he had to go, think of some lies.

[Jeremy Piven]

See, but. But a lot of good came from that, right?

[Bobby Kelly]

No, no, I actually got. I got into shape.

[Jeremy Piven]

That's what I'm saying.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Jeremy Piven]

You look at yourself like that, you're like, I gotta lean out a bit.

[Bobby Kelly]

A bit.

[Big J Okerson]

I think you also. I think you also made up 150 to 200.

[Bobby Kelly]

I did. I actually.

[Big J Okerson]

You humiliated yourself forever for 200, dude.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's pretty. Wow. That was a bad one. That was a bad one.

[Big J Okerson]

You did several of them.

[Bobby Kelly]

Can I say something, though? The cameo guy, I was like, you. I don't want to do it. I want to. This guy was on me. On me. And then he finally got like. He just got in me, where I was like, all right, I'll do it. And I saw everybody do it. And here, what I did at the beginning of Cameo, which I thought was genius, I would hire other comedians to plug my dates.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh.

[Bobby Kelly]

So I would get Nick. I would get Nick Depalo, and I.

[Big J Okerson]

Would buy a cameo.

[Bobby Kelly]

I put Bobby with an. I put Bobby Kelly with an ie at the end, so it was like a girl. And I'd have him, hey, I'm gonna be. You know, hey, just give me a shout out how cool things are going and, you know, give me a little pep talk. And I'm gonna be doing a show in Arizona on 19th and the 20th, so maybe just pump that up. And it would just be Nick Depaulo and I would use his clip on my social media. Nick Depaulo. Give me a plug. I got Chris DiStefano to do it.

[Big J Okerson]

Less humiliating for them than that. Than that Cupid.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, that's less humiliating than anything on the planet. I still get people.

[Big J Okerson]

That is so, so bad.

[Bobby Kelly]

I still get people who send that to me on Valentine's Day and it hurts my feelings.

[Paco]

I didn't realize until just now when I saw it. I just thought it was like red. I didn't realize there was like butterfly fairy wings in the red heart.

[Jeremy Piven]

She committed to the bit.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, she's not an asshole.

[Big J Okerson]

She dressed you like a moron for $50.

[Bobby Kelly]

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[Jeremy Piven]

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[Bobby Kelly]

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[Big J Okerson]

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[Jeremy Piven]

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[Bobby Kelly]

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[Big J Okerson]

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[Bobby Kelly]

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[Paco]

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[Big J Okerson]

That was an enemy's move.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, I'm gonna divorce her tonight.

[Big J Okerson]

You should at least consider it.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, I'm gonna come just have a.

[Big J Okerson]

Talk with her at least about. What the fuck? Why would you send me out there like that?

[Bobby Kelly]

I'm a talk. I need to. I need to give her a nice choke.

[Big J Okerson]

Maybe a shake, a shoulder shake, maybe.

[Bobby Kelly]

A face to the glass.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, yeah. Corey Oakham says put the face in the glass.

[Bobby Kelly]

I gotta get that off. Can I get that off? It's off, but it's. You can still find it on Reddit.

[Big J Okerson]

Don't worry, bud, it's there forever.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's off your cameo page.

[Big J Okerson]

We'd be ridiculous. Here we have Jeremy Piven here. I've got a thousand, I believe the room probably has a thousand questions to ask you.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's crazy. How many movies, how many not just movies, how many great movies you're in?

[Big J Okerson]

How many great movies? But the question I wanted to almost lead off with asking was that, like, how great is it like, at our age, even, like, you were in movies at a time where, like, everyone, like, you watched it over and over and over. That just doesn't happen anymore. Everyone kind of takes in a movie now. Like, once you see, you move on. There's a thousand things and TV shows coming out. But I mean, like, a good example always for PCU is one of the first things I ever saw you in. And I just. I liked it. I saw it on cable the first time and I saw it 700 times on kid and loved it. You know, you just kept watching it when it was on.

[Jeremy Piven]

Well, thank you. And that. That's one of those movies. If you look at it now, it's almost like they had jumped timeline and they somehow back in the day, it was ahead of its time, obviously. And it's a cliche, but they somehow knew the future where we were going with all this.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah.

[Jeremy Piven]

Because it looks like it was made for these times, which is insane.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, yeah. But not even the movie itself. I'm saying, I'm saying, like this being in movies at a time, like, even old school, there's a time where, like, people watched old school 70 times, but they know the words inside and out. Like, that doesn't happen.

[Bobby Kelly]

Smoking Aces is up there with, like, true romance. As far as cast, like, so many.

[Big J Okerson]

Horrible movies that people saw.

[Jeremy Piven]

You guys are being very kind, and you're. And you're picking movies that, like. And I thank you. That I love. That are a bit of a. You know, on the. On the cult side.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Jeremy Piven]

You know, Smoking Aces and stuff like that. But then you look. It's so funny, you know, the journey and how interesting Hollywood is because you look at the cast of Smoking Aces.

[Bobby Kelly]

Crazy.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's like true romance. It's like.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah, you've got.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's comparable as the people in it.

[Jeremy Piven]

You got Chris Pine and Ben Affleck and myself and Common and Ryan Reynolds and Andy Garcia and. And on and on and on and on. And at the time, they were like, yeah, we. We don't know about this cast. So, like, I remember I was so excited for it to come out, and the role was just absolutely insane. And, you know, I have people coming up to me. I had this one actor who. I can't say who it is, but he came up to me. He goes, mate. He goes, you want to do a little bit of Charlie, baby? A little bit. You don't do a little. You do it. And I go, bro, I don't. I don't. I don't. To blow. It was Ray Liotto, and that was your fault. Yeah. But anyway, so this dude is a brilliant actor and thought I did blow. And I looked at him, I go, did you see Smoke and Aces? And he goes, yeah. And I went, and this guy's a brilliant actor. He go. I go, did you think that was real? And so somehow, like, that was the greatest compliment. This brilliant actor thought I was really doing blow in Smoking Aces. I mean, we're snorting vitamin C. I've got, you know, things in my contacts, red contacts in my eyes to make it look like, you know, I. So they just assumed that I was method and that I'm just doing a lot of blow. It's like. It's wild. Yeah. And it's. It's a huge compliment, but I think right now it's interesting where we're gonna go, you know, can. Can we get people in the theaters? How do we get their attention? How do we get, you know, stuff to break through all this noise? Like, I got kids coming up to me, late teens, early 20s screaming, Ari. And I'm looking at them and I'm going, how did you. And they're like, yeah, since the pandemic, we've been. We've been binging it went back. Yeah, so. So they're looking for. I really believe the variable is like, you know, they're not connecting to whatever is being shoved down their throats right now. And so no one's making these kids go and watch Entourage. They just love it. Told all their friends, and now, you know, they're binging it. And I'm honored, and there's this whole new, you know, crop of people, but because I'm doing stand up and I'm on the road and I'm on the street, I am. I get to see what they're really watching because they're coming up to me. I'm going, bro, you're. I got fucking moisturizer that's on my face. It's older than you are. You're fucking 20 years old.

[Bobby Kelly]

Right?

[Jeremy Piven]

So.

[Big J Okerson]

Everybody loves fast cars and hot bitches. So that's what Entourage brought to the table.

[Bobby Kelly]

Well, I thought you were gonna say moisturizer.

[Jeremy Piven]

Everyone loves a good moisturizer.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, but, I mean, I love a good moisturizer, but the kids love bitches and fast cars.

[Jeremy Piven]

They do. And it's funny that people are saying, you know, oh, it could never exist. Not only could it exist, but it could really address what we've all been through, you know, with the overcompensation, how someone like Ari would have to navigate all that itself would be a fertile premise for comedy. You know, Lloyd could be his politically correct consultant.

[Big J Okerson]

Why do they think it couldn't be today? Like, the misogynistic thing of it.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah, yeah. All those variables. Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

But it's funny because all the things that are a hit are old school stuff.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's that stuff where it's real. There. There is misogyny or. And they're dealing with it. You know what I mean? They deal with it. But like. Like, Taylor Sheridan and his show deals with all this stuff and has strong women. I mean, the best part is Beth on Yellowstone, but, you know, it's.

[Jeremy Piven]

Or even his new show, Landman, which is so good, it's incredible.

[Bobby Kelly]

Like, his shows deal with the things, but in a real way. Like when that.

[Big J Okerson]

They keep showing me a girl naked and going, She's 17. Stop saying that. We have to look up to make sure. His daughter and Landman, they keep showing her. No, she's not. But her character is. That's strange. She's like 26 or something.

[Bobby Kelly]

Beth walked out naked and jumped in the tub in front of all the farm workers, in front of Rip who loves her and he didn't. It was just like, it was, it was like, this is like awesome. She doesn't give a. Like that.

[Big J Okerson]

Explain it to a female actress about doing nudity for the. When you say it's like, yeah, we need you to be dune for this part. Like, why? Because people just love it, man. It doesn't really need to be for the thing. Like, why do you have to show her full frontal naked walking past the guy? Like, you don't. If she really asked the question, why do I have to be naked in this? This. You don't think. Because people will be stoked on it. Because Mr. Skin is the answer, I guess.

[Bobby Kelly]

But I think actors in that, like she did the. When she got sexually. When she got raped in that scene. She had Dominic Lardosi do it. She was like, I'm not, I don't want to be raped by a day player. I want a real actor to do this scene with me because there's, there's, it's not just me getting raped, you know. And he agreed to do it, but he said, I do not want my name in it and I do not my face in it. If you look, the guy hanging at the end is not him. It's a day player who's hanging in the thing. And he's not credited in the show. But the reason why, if you look at that scene, she's. It's not like she's beating up two dudes. Right? Which would be unrealistic, which they do a lot. Now some girl can beat the out of a bunch of dudes with guns. And it's like, all right, whatever. She looks at him and goes, do it. You, you got a small dick. She uses her brain to with his self esteem team to stall enough time. She's like, it, go ahead, you do it. What, you don't got enough to Rip? It was just this real moment of this is a terrible thing with this strong woman who's like, go yourself. And, and Lombardosi was great in it. You couldn't have done it with a regular actor.

[Jeremy Piven]

You know the way you need a pro.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, I don't know if you could have done that. You could have raped her in that show.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, I, I, yeah, I believe in you. I, I do believe I can do a good rape.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, I've seen your acting talents.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's funny, but. Because when Dom we Had the same age for a long time, and we were going for the same auditions. I'm just like, yeah, this is a waste of time. Just pick him, would you? I want to learn the lines.

[Big J Okerson]

Bobby, I'm gonna be your agent again. Yeah, we're gonna try to get you to do nudity on television.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yes.

[Big J Okerson]

Okay.

[Jeremy Piven]

Just like that, by the way, you know, because I've done a bunch of that stuff. I don't know if you ever saw Very Bad Things, but, yeah, it's a very twisted movie.

[Big J Okerson]

I use that as a reference on stage age a lot. Like, this is the thing goes, what are you guys doing hanging out? He goes, you guys just kill hooker in a hotel room. And then you all start turning on each other because you think the other one's gonna turn the other one in. And they never know what the. I'm talking about. The description. Like, come on, guys. Very bad things.

[Jeremy Piven]

Taylor Dane, by the way.

[Big J Okerson]

By the way, Taylor Dane was in that.

[Jeremy Piven]

Her boobs before I did Entourage, I. Because of that movie, you know. You know, now that, you know, they would scream, Ari. But before that, they go, bro, you're the dude that killed the hooker in the bathroom. And, like, people would all look at me and I'm like, it's a movie. It's a movie. But no, but, like, you know, because I did a bunch of. Because I was a lunatic on stage. Like, I grew up in the. On the stage in Chicago, and I would do. We did the American premiere of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. I did. We did a version of the book on stage that John Cusack directed. And. And I'm playing the, you know, know, Samoan attorney, totally naked, peeking on five sheets of high power bladder acid with a, you know, huge knife in my hand, running around stage. So I. I guess in a weird way, I kind of, like, manifested all these naked roles, but, you know, this is too much information I'm about to give you about my anatomy that's making.

[Big J Okerson]

Me think you have a fantastic penis.

[Jeremy Piven]

I don't. I don't.

[Bobby Kelly]

You got a hand?

[Jeremy Piven]

No, I don't, sir. I have.

[Big J Okerson]

This thing's nice soft, though.

[Jeremy Piven]

No, it looks like a really.

[Bobby Kelly]

It looks like a spring mushroom.

[Jeremy Piven]

Correct. You are correct, sir. No, what happens is it disappears. This is way too much information. I can't believe I'm even telling you this.

[Big J Okerson]

I love it.

[Bobby Kelly]

You know, both of ours are inside our body right now.

[Big J Okerson]

Once you said it, mine did start crawling back up. It does have a strange reaction. Yeah.

[Jeremy Piven]

So. So, you know, it's I'm a grower, not a shower. So you've got to, you know, commit to the business. And, you know, it's. It's. It's all part of it, but in very bad things. And you're gonna think I'm talking shit right now. I really didn't have a reference for porn, so I didn't know who Kobita was. You're gonna be like, oh, you're full of shit. So I'm playing the scene with a porn star, you know, and I end up, you know, slamming her against. Into the towel, Spike, and killing her. And I just.

[Big J Okerson]

Accident, accident.

[Jeremy Piven]

Total accident.

[Bobby Kelly]

Of course it was.

[Jeremy Piven]

But I wanted to play a guy. My. My hook into the scene, no pun intended, was that I always wanted to play the guy who thinks that the stripper's really into him. You know what I mean? I just love that. I love that guy. And so that was my whole thing with this guy, you know? So I started improvising, you know, that he thinks she's really into him. And, you know, and so just playing. That was amazing. And it was amazing to talk to this woman who was so intimidated by actors because she's a porn actor. I didn't really know. Know. But then her clothes came off, and then she was in her element, and then absolutely crushing it. And I apologize because we're in the midst of it, and I almost, you know, there's so much interaction because we're both naked, and I apologize. And she's like, no, I thought, you know, because I. You know, she's used to penetration, and I didn't even think of that.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, she's trying to pull you in her. Yeah, because she can't get into her mood. Look, I'm really not gonna be able to do what I do unless you.

[Big J Okerson]

Put it in five years ago. I'm sorry, sweetheart. It's just not happening for me anywhere. And the Taylor Dane was the other stripper, right? In that movie, I believe.

[Jeremy Piven]

I can't. I can't even remember, but it was her and Taylor.

[Big J Okerson]

Taylor Dane, the singer. Taylor Dane. Taylor. To my heart, she was the other one. She pulled her titties out too.

[Bobby Kelly]

Still looks good.

[Big J Okerson]

Does she?

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, still looks good.

[Jeremy Piven]

So what do you. What do you think it is? Like, I. I was lucky to be a part of all these movies that, like, you mentioned old school. That, like. Like, you know, you have to understand. Before entourage, I did 40 movies and, you know, won the Fresh Face of the year at 40 years old, literally. And I said, there's Nothing fresh about my face, but I'll accept this award.

[Bobby Kelly]

I was at the premiere of your. The car movie.

[Big J Okerson]

We.

[Bobby Kelly]

What was it?

[Jeremy Piven]

The Goods. The Goods in Vegas.

[Bobby Kelly]

It was a great movie.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, with. Was that. Didn't Neil Farrell.

[Jeremy Piven]

I love that movie.

[Bobby Kelly]

Neil Brennan. I got my feelings hurt at the premiere. It was like one of those things where I was hanging out with Dane at the time and he's like, we're going to the premiere, dude. You know, Neil, come down. I knew Neil and I came down. Just come and I went down. I was all excited for the. In LA for this premiere. There's a circle of all of Neil and all the people and he's holding court and Dane walks up.

[Big J Okerson]

Hey, Neil.

[Bobby Kelly]

And. And Dane's. And all of a sudden he's talking and everybody. I'm just smiling, listening. And. And then all of a sudden Neil goes, why are you here? Oh, I went. Dane invited me.

[Big J Okerson]

There's no room for you.

[Bobby Kelly]

I'm Danes plus one.

[Big J Okerson]

Get out of here, you dumb shit.

[Bobby Kelly]

Did that hurt, man? But the movie. Yeah, I fucking loved it. I thought it was great.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah, it's. It's so interesting that, you know, I remember, you know, the cast as Dr. Ken and you know, everyone in that movie and it was. Was actually would make a really good TV series if you think about it. Yeah. But you know, what's the variable? How much does whoever is releasing it, how much money do they have for pna? Are they. Is it going to. They have commercials and billboards and all this stuff. And you know, I'm just a stage actor from Chicago. I didn't. And Adam McKay, who produced it, said, no, this is the way Hollywood is. They can buy that number one slot for you. But. But you know, you were. It was Paramount Vantage. They were going under at the time, so they didn't put any effort into it. Doesn't matter that it's really funny and everyone loves it. Do you know what I mean? So it's an interesting lesson and you have to learn how to detach yourself from this stuff. And that's kind of tough. Yeah. But it's. Listen, it's all part of it. And you guys, I appreciate it because you're naming all these movies that I loved and love making them and they're really good, but not everyone's seen them.

[Big J Okerson]

Well, I've pushed for years. As we were playing the soundtrack in the beginning, Judgment Night, that movie like struck me. It was. Everything about it was so perfect for the time that it was. I'm thinking it was 93 or 4, and it came out. The first CD I got on my boombox was that soundtrack. That was the Rat Rock mix.

[Jeremy Piven]

Oh, it was amazing soundtrack.

[Big J Okerson]

And then the movie was just such a cool. Such a basic idea.

[Jeremy Piven]

Great idea.

[Big J Okerson]

Suburban guys get lost in the shittiest neighborhood.

[Bobby Kelly]

I forget where it was supposed to be.

[Jeremy Piven]

South side of Chicago.

[Bobby Kelly]

Chicago, okay.

[Jeremy Piven]

And we filmed it in Chicago, where I'm from. From. And, you know, I got to film in my hometown. Live the dream. I made $50,000 for the movie. It was, like, more money than I could ever imagine.

[Bobby Kelly]

I made that on my cameo last Valentine's Day.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah, you did. By the way, I'd give you 50 to never do that again.

[Big J Okerson]

I'll double it. I'm gonna give you 50 more. And please don't do that again.

[Bobby Kelly]

I refuse.

[Big J Okerson]

But that. I mean, you're in. Arguably, for me, like, my. One of my favorite scenes in the movie. It also is a funny thing because, like, you know, your character in Judgment Night was among the slick guy. Some of the other guys were, like, tougher guys. And so when that comes down, like, as the fat kid in my group always, I felt that scene was never bad. It was slick. But I was better at that than, like, running from trouble. So I was like, hey, guys, we're all going to fight. I have to stay back and fight because I'm not going to be able to outrun these guys kind of thing. And that was. The energy of the scene was like. You're like, confidently. He was such, like, a sharky guy. He's like. He sent them all his friends away, and he goes, I'm just gonna work out a deal with them. And then it goes bad. Spoiler alert.

[Bobby Kelly]

I know. It goes real bad.

[Jeremy Piven]

Your boy Dennis Leary throws me off the side of a building.

[Bobby Kelly]

It was the first movie, I think Dennis was serious, right? That was where he played a bad guy. His first, like, people like, oh, yeah, he can act, too. Yeah. He was doing some silly shit.

[Jeremy Piven]

The bad guys were. Imagine Dennis Leary. Everlast.

[Big J Okerson]

Everlast.

[Jeremy Piven]

When Jump around is blowing. And I remember, you know. So we would film it the whole. Imagine doing an entire night shoot where you just have to become a vampire. You know, you're filming till dawn, six nights a week, whatever. It's all good. I was living the dream. But you hit. You know, we would go first, and, you know, you hit your mark, and then they would. They would. You know, we'd take off and they're chasing us, right? And I looked down at my mark at one point. And it was a swastika on my mark. And I'm Jewish, you know, and it was one of these things where I remember that was the first time because I grew up in a school that was integrated. I was the only white boy on my football team. And I invited everyone to my bar mitzvah, and they didn't know what a yarmulke was, and they thought it was a pocket square and a Frisbee.

[Bobby Kelly]

So you guys had a great football team.

[Jeremy Piven]

We had a great. We had a great football team. And I, you know, and I.

[Big J Okerson]

You a player Coach, I assume.

[Bobby Kelly]

I, I, I'm going to pivot this whole show, by the way. I'm just throwing that out there. I've had five good. Let's go.

[Big J Okerson]

At least sports related. So you're getting a black video.

[Jeremy Piven]

So. So my, my jersey number said linebacker. My body said kicker. And, you know, do I get a pivot or. No, There we go.

[Big J Okerson]

Sports related. Another black pivot.

[Jeremy Piven]

We had an unbelievable, unbelievable team. And on that note, I mean, Evanston Township High School, where I went, had 4,200 kids. So imagine it's like a small college. I was tiny, undersized Jew like Julian Edelman. The only difference between me and Edelman is he's an elite athlete. That's the only difference.

[Big J Okerson]

He had it.

[Bobby Kelly]

Can I say something, though? Got a big wang. I've seen it.

[Jeremy Piven]

Okay.

[Bobby Kelly]

I was a lot. I was. I was in the locker room. I got in the locker room in Miami one time with his.

[Big J Okerson]

You know. It sounds like you're saying you snuck into a locker room.

[Bobby Kelly]

No, I got in.

[Big J Okerson]

Got in.

[Bobby Kelly]

I got in with a friend of mine. One of the Wall. Jimbo Wahlberg, Mark's brother, who was a friend of mine. He knows Belichick. We got in. I'm standing there, there, and he. West Welker walk by.

[Jeremy Piven]

Are you West Walker? Are you talking about.

[Bobby Kelly]

No, Edelman.

[Jeremy Piven]

Julian Edelman.

[Bobby Kelly]

No, it's West Welker. I'm sorry. Adelman's dick is small.

[Jeremy Piven]

Jimbo, is that some sort of anti Semitic thing you're doing right now?

[Bobby Kelly]

No, no, no. West is Jewish, too, okay?

[Jeremy Piven]

No, I don't think he is.

[Bobby Kelly]

All right, whatever. I'm trying to get out of this.

[Jeremy Piven]

Jimbo.

[Bobby Kelly]

Jimbo Wahlberg.

[Big J Okerson]

Jimbo Wahlberg.

[Bobby Kelly]

He's got a lot of brothers, bro. Not all of them are famous.

[Big J Okerson]

Are. Are. Is Jimbo one of the ones that doesn't deal with the famous ones at all? Yeah, okay.

[Bobby Kelly]

He's the one who does.

[Jeremy Piven]

We've Never heard of him.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, I've never heard of him. And I've never heard of your one degree of separation from Mark Wahlberg before.

[Bobby Kelly]

I mean. Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

Why are we not up clanging at.

[Bobby Kelly]

2Am I told you that before. Yeah, that's my friend Jim.

[Jeremy Piven]

There's Jimbo. Yeah, he's. There he is. He's the older. While we're. Brother. Correct.

[Bobby Kelly]

He's the older one. Okay. He's a great guy.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, there's that one time. Mark Wahlberg in his Met.

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

Hey.

[Big J Okerson]

Hey. Tell me you're my brother.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, he does a lot of ch.

[Jeremy Piven]

Clean the toilet at Municipal. You little.

[Big J Okerson]

Hey. Someone tells me you're my brother.

[Bobby Kelly]

Are you my brother?

[Big J Okerson]

So go ahead, Jimbo.

[Bobby Kelly]

What are you saying about the.

[Jeremy Piven]

No, just that. That, you know, it was interesting. Like, it was the first time I. I'd witnessed anti Semitism. I was like, that's a swastika on my mark. It's really weird. And I remember I confronted Everlast and these dudes about, like, what the is that, man? And the whole thing was, bro, we were in character. And it's like, brother, I've been acting since I was a child, and I know what method acting is. You're a fucking hip hop dude. You know, that's not method. That's anti Semitism. Like, it was just all very weird, but it is bizarre. It's. It's all. It's all part of it. Like, for me, I love. I love acting, you know? You know, and I've. I'm not saying things out of turn, but, like, there was an actor on Entourage that did, you know, some weird method shit with me, and, you know, it's like, no. Dice is amazing. I love Dice. My fucking hero. He's a great actor. He's my spirit animal.

[Big J Okerson]

I mean, yeah, he's my every reason I wanted to get a comedy.

[Bobby Kelly]

He's such a great actor. Except I did watch him sing Grease Lightning on stage when he was doing. When he.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, nothing wrong with that.

[Jeremy Piven]

No, but he's a great drummer, man.

[Bobby Kelly]

He's a sick jazz drummer. But when he sang Grease Lightning at the Garden, that really freaked me out.

[Big J Okerson]

It was awesome. You're not there for it, dude.

[Bobby Kelly]

You can judge for yourself.

[Jeremy Piven]

So for me, like, I don't need. I. I can get myself there in a scene, no matter what. I know it sounds really fucking crazy, but I don't need you to do some method shit. I'm gonna do everything I can. So I think that was one of those weird excuses that is.

[Big J Okerson]

That's the Stanley Cooper. It was just talking to Fenoy about this on the way in about the Stanley Kubrick story, where it's like, he would be just rotten terrible to Shelley Duvall in the Shining to get her thing. He goes, you could probably just done the same thing by going like, hey, I need you to act a little differently in this. Like, if you're gonna be mean in any way, it goes, hey, could you act better instead of just treating her like shit to get her to cry?

[Bobby Kelly]

You didn't need him to feel like real Nazis were on set.

[Big J Okerson]

Well, that's just so funny. It's like Everlast is like, he's giving you the same excuse as Daniel Day Lewis. Yo, I was living it. Y.

[Bobby Kelly]

What would you do if it was Denzel? Did you say anything?

[Jeremy Piven]

Absolutely.

[Bobby Kelly]

Could you imagine doing that today? How much in trouble you'd get?

[Big J Okerson]

Depends. Is it Harvard? You'd be celebrated. I think it depends where you go.

[Jeremy Piven]

Columbia.

[Bobby Kelly]

You do Yale?

[Big J Okerson]

Depends where you actually depends.

[Jeremy Piven]

I was literally just handing out flyers at. At Harvard, and I just realized I'm a little jubilee boy. Handing out flyers. It was not a good look, but it was all okay.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, good, that's.

[Bobby Kelly]

We gotta. We gotta take a break real quick. Dude, you should stick around. Can you stay?

[Jeremy Piven]

Yeah, but I don't want to intrude.

[Bobby Kelly]

No, no. Can you still stay around? Please, man, stick around.

[Jeremy Piven]

Okay.

[Big J Okerson]

Jeremy Fitness is gonna be at Sony hall in New York City October 19th. After that, you can see him in Irvine, California, and Addison, Texas. Guess what? Me and Bobby, maybe you'll see us together somewhere this weekend. Who knows?

[Bobby Kelly]

We are going to be together all weekend. And you know what? You're trying to get me to do some weird shit, and I don't know if I want to do it.

[Big J Okerson]

Now you're doing it.

[Bobby Kelly]

I know I've dressed like Cupid. I get it.

[Big J Okerson]

But I don't dress like Cupid. You can get your nails done with me, and we're gonna get a fun color.

[Bobby Kelly]

I don't want to get.

[Big J Okerson]

And we're gonna match.

[Bobby Kelly]

I have a son, dude.

[Big J Okerson]

Let's get matching.

[Bobby Kelly]

I have a son. I have to explain Cupid. I'm not gonna explain my. My nails getting done.

[Big J Okerson]

You should use the nails as a diversion to never have to explain Cupid to him, because that's going to be way worse.

[Jeremy Piven]

I just might as well just fucking just say that. You know what? If anyone gives you shit about Cuba, just say it's Jeffrey Ross.

[Big J Okerson]

That's true.

[Jeremy Piven]

That's all you have to do can.

[Big J Okerson]

Just say it's Jeff Ross. It was before taking Banana for the ride hit its Broadway run.

[Bobby Kelly]

All right, Big J's gonna be at Helium Comedy Club, Portland the 2nd, October 2nd through the 4th. Funny Bone in Columbus the 10th through the 11th. After that, Washington D.C. austin, Tampa, New Orleans for Skank Fest. BigJ comedy.com for all his tickets. YouTube.com Big Jokerson for his live thing and his live show that he does once a week and his specials.

[Jeremy Piven]

Where are you going to be in Austin by. By the way, where are you playing me?

[Big J Okerson]

Mothership.

[Jeremy Piven]

Oh, nice comedy.

[Big J Okerson]

Mothership.

[Jeremy Piven]

Nice. I'm familiar with that.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, it's doing all right for itself. I tell everybody buy tickets please, before it just sells out on Joe Rogan. People, I know you have to get tickets. Bobby Kelly's gonna be a comedy to Carlson Rochester, October 10th and 11th. After that, Tampa, Emmaus, Pennsylvania, New Orleans, of course, for Skank fest and then for tickets and all of his tour dates, punch up live Robert Kelly. We both got YouTube channels. Follow all of media our social. Follow the Bonfires YouTube page or stop having Paco here doing nothing. Just sitting here making videos for goddamn nobody. Go subscribe and watch. See, as we slowly evolve Paco into a beautiful woman, we found that he could become yesterday. Paco, you'd be such a hot chick.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

We'll be right back with Jeremy Pivot hits the bonfire.

[Nikki and Bri]

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[Jeremy Piven]

Podcast?

[Nikki and Bri]

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[Bobby Kelly]

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[Jeremy Piven]

Is that even possible?

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[Jeremy Piven]

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[Jeremy Piven]

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