The Ghost w/Will Guilmette & Yoshi Obayashi

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Bonfire with Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly

Episode: The Ghost w/Will Guilmette & Yoshi Obayashi
Date: October 23, 2025
Host: SiriusXM
Guests: Yoshi Obayashi, Will Gilmette

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Bonfire blends the show’s signature raw humor with fascinating dispatches from the global comedy scene and a rising boxing star’s journey. Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly host comedians Yoshi Obayashi and Will Gilmette. Yoshi shares wild tales from the Riyadh Comedy Festival (Saudi Arabia), including colorful run-ins with the Bin Laden family, backstage dynamics among Western comics, and the cultural impact of American comedians performing in repressive regimes. Will, a young boxer known as “The Ghost,” provides a candid look at the nerve-racking transition from local amateur to professional fighter.

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Key Discussion Points & Segments

1. Riyadh Comedy Festival: Culture Clashes & Comedy Diplomacy

(00:53 – 23:00)

• Yoshi’s Adventure Getting There
  • Coming off a European tour, Yoshi details the logistics and expense of attending the Riyadh festival, including visa challenges.

    "It's kind of expensive getting Visa insurance to get in. Not for Russell [Peters], but for me. But I got there two days before his show, so I was there for five days." (02:30, Yoshi)

• Surreal Backstage Encounters
  • Yoshi describes meeting one of Osama Bin Laden’s brothers in the VIP section (“there’s like 50 or 56 siblings, you know… I Just shook his hand”). He recounts a comically dark moment with Russell Peters and Bin Laden’s family.

    “Russell stood between [Bin Laden’s sons] and took a picture: ‘Hey look, Twin towers.’” (05:09, Yoshi)

• American Comics in Saudi Arabia
  • Yoshi chronicles packed houses for Russel Peters and Pete Davidson, describes greenroom life (no extravagance, “just a regular green room”), and debunks rumors that only the rich "sheikhs" could attend.

    "Tickets were relatively cheap... even Russell Peters tickets were like $20, $30." (15:04, Yoshi)

• Comedy as Cultural Exchange
  • Yoshi argues comedians are helping foment change, likening this to artists in the Cold War:

    “These comedians… brought subversive [ideas] just by talking to local people... This is good for the people of Saudi Arabia and every comedian to attack this festival, not one single one of them asks, well, what does the people in Saudi Arabia want?” (16:16, Yoshi)

• Critique of Comedian Backlash
  • He criticizes Western comics for virtue-signaling rather than genuinely supporting greater freedoms abroad.

    "All these comedians that don't know anything about that region... I think a lot of them are scumbags." (20:52, Yoshi)

• Notable Viral Moment
  • Jay jokes about the "butterfly effect" of 9/11:

    “Those buildings went down so we could have Pete Davidson films.” (08:15, Big Jay)

• Jessica Kirson’s Saudi Dilemma
  • Discussion on “jumping off the ship early” after taking the money ("She did it and then came back and was like, I shouldn't have done it." - 24:08, Big Jay), with Yoshi comparing comics’ choices to sex workers who later renounce their past.

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2. Boxing, Race, and Family: Introducing Will “The Ghost” Gilmette

(30:09 – 62:00)

• First Professional Steps
  • Will, 23, shares his path (started boxing at 14, first pro fight in May at Foxwoods Casino). His nerves settled once he got hit—

    “After I got hit with that first punch, I was like, alright, that’s nothing.” (32:34, Will)

• Race, Showmanship, and ‘The Ghost’
  • Origin story: “They always bust my balls, you know... ‘The Ghost is here.’” (40:49, Will)
  • Candid, irreverent conversation about whether he notices bruises differently on Black vs. White opponents, leading to classic Bonfire riffing and boundary-pushing jokes.
• Training and Fighting Style
  • "I just like working the body, breaking ‘em down, then going for the headshot… work my jab, go to the body, then up top." (52:26, Will)
• Family & Community
  • Brother is his close supporter and firefighter; mother refuses to watch the knockouts.
  • Both bond over Providence/Rhode Island roots and “badge bunny” culture.
• On Violence, Restraint & Young Fame
  • Will stresses the importance of walking away—

    “I’ve heard stories: you hit a guy, he bounces his head off the ground, he dies…Definitely not worth it.” (49:04, Will)

• Choosing Walk-out Music
  • Debates on best ‘walk out’ songs (from Black Betty to old-school rap), with hosts riffing on boxers’ stage personas.
• Mother as a Gimmick
  • Jay’s tongue-in-cheek pitch:

    "I think your mom should go reluctantly to every fight and then fight the mother of the other fighter in the audience." (44:09, Big Jay)

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3. Porn Biz & Wild Tangents with Yoshi

Throughout; 45:50+ in detail

• Yoshi’s Porn Career
  • Jay and Robert mine Yoshi’s past—cramming porn stars with milk, “prolapse” talk, and classic Bonfire gross-out humor.

    “Did you pour milk into the assholes of these porn stars? … But they’re experienced girls.” (51:31, Yoshi & Jay)

• General Raunch & Callback Jokes
  • Themes of greenroom weirdness, mock accusations (e.g., about Andrew Schulz), and digressions into sex, strippers, and Rhode Island’s legendary ‘badge bunnies.’

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Bin Laden’s Family at the Festival:

  “I just shook his hand… The reason I remember him—other people took a picture: ‘Hey look, Twin Towers.’”
  — Yoshi Obayashi, (05:09)

• On Saudi Youth and Comedy:

  “So many Saudi kids saw this person perform. He or she is going to say, 'I saw you perform 14, 15 years ago when I was a teenager. I'm a comedian now.' They made a world difference.”
  — Yoshi Obayashi, (13:57)

• On Western Hypocrisy:

  “In that logic, how do you perform in the USA? Because we kill people overseas all the time... You think all your audiences are wonderful people? You have rapists and murderers in your audience.”
  — Yoshi Obayashi, (18:22)

• Jay on 9/11, Comedy, and Pete Davidson:

  “Those buildings went down so we could have Pete Davidson films.”
  — Big Jay Okerson, (08:15)

• Will on Boxing Style:

  “I just like working the body, breaking them down, and then going for the headshot. Work my jab, set ‘em up, go to the body, get ‘em tired.”
  — Will Gilmette, (52:26)

• On Performing and Backlash:

  “There's so many comedians who'll criticize Bill Burr, but if they were given the opportunity to open for him, I bet you most of them would.”
  — Yoshi Obayashi, (20:00)

• Will on Restraint:

  “Once you’ve heard stories like you hit a guy, bounces his head off the ground, he dies, you know, Definitely not worth— I walk away all the time now.”
  — Will Gilmette, (49:04)

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Structure & Timestamp Highlights

Comedy in Saudi Arabia

• 00:53–08:15: Yoshi's intro and surreal arrival in Riyadh
• 08:15–15:04: Bin Laden family, Pete Davidson, festival rumors
• 15:04–23:00: Ticket pricing, criticism of festival, Jessica Kirson’s post-festival reversal

Boxing with Will "The Ghost"

• 30:09–40:49: Will's career, nerves, race in boxing, family
• 40:49–52:43: Boxing strategy, persona, memorable school fight stories
• 53:03–57:30: Fighting dangers, learning restraint, street fights

Porn Industry & Classic Bonfire

• 45:50–52:00: Yoshi’s porn career, milk stunt stories
• Ongoing: Wild riffing, callbacks, Rhode Island strip clubs & culture

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Tone & Style

• Blunt, brash, unfiltered comedy with a willingness to tackle taboo subjects.
• Self-deprecating, rapid-fire riffing with quick pivots between serious insights and NSFW bits.
• Absurdist detours: frequent callbacks to ongoing Bonfire lore, running jokes about fighting, the adult industry, and the oddities of East Coast culture.
• Respectful, ultimately affectionate toward guests, even while deploying dark or “wrong” jokes for comedic effect.

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Conclusion

This episode of The Bonfire juggles reckless laughter, boundary-pushing jokes, and surprisingly thoughtful commentary about comedy as soft diplomacy in authoritarian states. Yoshi Obayashi provides a rare insider’s view of the Riyadh Comedy Festival, the complex ethics of performing for repressive regimes, and the power of entertainment to chip away at censorship. Will Gilmette brings an earnest, grounded counterpoint with stories of discipline, family, and the unseen dangers of being both a boxer and a young public figure. Together, these threads yield an episode as unpredictable and entertaining as the show’s reputation promises.

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For more, including direct links to the episode and guests, visit SiriusXM Faction Talk, Channel 103, and The Bonfire’s official podcast feed.

Transcript

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[Big J Okerson]

And now, the bonfire with Big J Okerson and Robert Kelly. Introduce our guest, Bobby.

[Robert Kelly]

We have Yoshi Obayashi. Yoshi.

[Big J Okerson]

We wrote that outside.

[Robert Kelly]

Wrote that outside.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

I didn't expect that.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah. Wow. A couple of K pop demon hunters.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

I mean, I usually hear people say ching Chung right away. So that was very.

[Robert Kelly]

We said that outside when you walked by us.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

And you never turned around.

[Robert Kelly]

No.

[Big J Okerson]

Which is good. Which is good. I like the self respect.

[Robert Kelly]

Yoshi always has a face like he. You pulled your penis out unexpectedly. And he's like, ooh, Yoshi. Yes, sir, my friend. I got a couple. So this is why you're one of the interesting guys I know. One of the most interesting guys I know. You did. He just got back from the Riyadh Comedy Festival. Am I saying it correctly?

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Yeah. 812 days ago. 10 days ago.

[Robert Kelly]

Well, we're not topical here on the box.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Okay.

[Robert Kelly]

We take. We like to let the news pass.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Okay, sorry.

[Robert Kelly]

And then we get back to it later when people like, oh, shit, I forgot about that. Yeah. And I want to.

[Big J Okerson]

I heard Andrew Schultz went.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah. And Charlie Kirk is dead. I don't know if you've heard about that.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

Okay, great. First of all, how the. How did you get out there?

[Big J Okerson]

Plane.

[Robert Kelly]

Whoa, whoa. We don't know that yet.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Magic.

[Robert Kelly]

You don't know. You don't know.

[Big J Okerson]

You think it was mysterious ship that showed up out of the fog and then vanished back into fog. And when you emerge from the fog again, you are in Riyadh, or magic carpet.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

No, I went. I flew over there from Greece and.

[Robert Kelly]

You were in Greece.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Yeah, I did three weeks in Scotland for the French festival and I was doing show in London and Berlin and places like that. And Russell Peters brothers say, hey, are you going to come and visit? I wasn't planning to. And I had another friend working fashion was planning to go Riyadh, so I thought maybe I'll go check out Both of them. And then it's kind of expensive getting Visa insurance to get in. Not for Russell, but for me. But I got there two days before his show, so I was there for five days.

[Robert Kelly]

And did you have a place to stay?

[Yoshi Obayashi]

They provided that for me.

[Big J Okerson]

And you performed on Russell's show?

[Yoshi Obayashi]

No, no, he. I don't think he could risk having somebody like me open for him.

[Robert Kelly]

What.

[Big J Okerson]

What do you mean trans?

[Robert Kelly]

Did you transition?

[Yoshi Obayashi]

No, just material wise. I think it's too dirty. It's. I think it might be a little too much.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Yeah. So I think she was.

[Big J Okerson]

When hung out at the festival.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Yeah. So I went and of course I've heard rumors about stuff, you know, and then first show. So it's like. It was really weird because it was 8th year anniversary of Khashoggi getting murdered. And Russell's show was on that first day. So it was in the green room.

[Robert Kelly]

Can you tell people who that is and when? I mean, people, Me.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Okay.

[Big J Okerson]

I mean, if we have to slow the show down for this, I guess. Go ahead.

[Robert Kelly]

I'm sorry, Jay. Tell me who it is.

[Big J Okerson]

No, no, we have a guest. We've talked enough. Yoshi, real quick.

[Robert Kelly]

Jay. No, seriously, I want you to tell me because you know more about than probably him.

[Big J Okerson]

It doesn't matter. We don't. Me and you can sit here and talk all day. I could retell it to you tomorrow. I could have told it to you yesterday if you would have asked me. Right, but right now we have a guest. And you have to open the floor to the guest. Right. Khashoggi's death, please, if you wouldn't mind. Yours.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Okay, So I open for him all the time, so I don't really need to watch it. So I think last 10 minutes I fell asleep. And right after the show, all this VIP are walking in. And the guy walks in, he's really dressed in a really nice Arab outfit. Even like higher end smiled. He shook my hand and then everybody went. As soon as Russell walked in, he goes straight to that guy talking to him. And within a minute I realized based on what they were saying, I. I figured what it was. It was one of Osama bin Laden's brother.

[Big J Okerson]

What?

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

What?

[Big J Okerson]

Wait, Bill Bin Laden?

[Robert Kelly]

Stop.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

I don't want to say which one.

[Robert Kelly]

Because I mean, why was one.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

But there's like 50.

[Robert Kelly]

We know one was bad.

[Big J Okerson]

Well, yes, Emilio.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

No, Emilio Binlod.

[Robert Kelly]

Emilio's directing now. Jimmy.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

There's like 50 or 56 siblings, you know. So like I was like weirded out because I Just shook his hand like, I mean I'm American, he's Russell's Canadian, so maybe it's not an issue with him. And the reason I remember him because other people.

[Big J Okerson]

You heard it here first. Russell Peters is excited about 9 11.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

No, no, no, no, that's not what.

[Robert Kelly]

Jesus Christ. Look at Paco just lit up. We finally have a viral video.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

So the reason I knew, I remember I knew about this guy.

[Robert Kelly]

Were you in Italy at any time? What the fuck is it?

[Will Gilmet]

Sorry.

[Robert Kelly]

Okay, do it.

[Will Gilmet]

He.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

I remember Russell and a couple other comedians told me when they were. When Russell was hanging out with this guy, X, Y and Z bin London. I don't want to say his first name. He said, hey Russell, meet my son. And they were like 65 and 6 7. So Russell stood between the two and took a picture. Hey look, Twin towers. And what is the fuck?

[Robert Kelly]

You can only do that joke one time. You need to, you need to be.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Well, you got attack only one time too.

[Robert Kelly]

We don't know that yet.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Wow. So I was like, what the fuck? You know? So like they're taking pictures. It's very, very nice. He said something really weird like, okay, I'll see you tomorrow. And like I did the math in my head. The reason I weird that nobody realized what was going on because next day on day two, Russell's doing the show. 8pm yeah. Guess who's doing the show?

[Robert Kelly]

10Pm Osama bin Laden's brother?

[Yoshi Obayashi]

No, no.

[Big J Okerson]

Jimmy bin Laden.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Pete Davidson. So there's a scenario where bin Laden guy's walking around with Pete Davidson walking around in a green room area.

[Big J Okerson]

Nice. Whoa, I like that. Awkward.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

And I went back with my camera ready next day and. And of course he doesn't show up. So it's only Pete and Russell. And Russell went to his green room and talked to him for like 20 minutes. Yeah, I saw him briefly. Then day three on the Russell's last show, Mr. Bin Laden showed up again.

[Robert Kelly]

Wow.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

So it was like bin Laden, Pete Davison bin Laden.

[Big J Okerson]

You should have a video of Pete Davidson shaking their hand going like, you killing my father has made people very patient with me. I want to thank you guys. If my father didn't die 9 11, I think I would have been having a lot more issues in Hollywood than I've had.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

But Jay, that's a good point because I wonder when Saudis see him, do they walk up and say I'm so, so sorry. I don't know. They were saying, do you think they were saying that?

[Big J Okerson]

No, they were like, hey, where's my being the launching pad for your wild success, sir.

[Robert Kelly]

Wow. Jesus Christ. J.

[Big J Okerson]

What?

[Robert Kelly]

What the man? Have a cigarette, dude. Start smoking again.

[Big J Okerson]

You're saying you get. You take back those 3,000 people and not have Pete Davidson out there in the world being famous? Okay. I mean, okay, whatever. You'd rather not know a guy who Kim Kardashian give him a cigarette and then have. And then what? Because two buildings are still standing. You're an idiot. You gotta think, dude. Butterfly effect. Butterfly effect. Those buildings went down so we could have Pete Davidson films.

[Robert Kelly]

The last one with Eddie Murphy was pretty good.

[Big J Okerson]

You watched it?

[Robert Kelly]

Yes.

[Big J Okerson]

Come on.

[Robert Kelly]

I did.

[Big J Okerson]

Why?

[Will Gilmet]

I like.

[Robert Kelly]

I like movies about like, you know.

[Big J Okerson]

Because, you know, Pete, I don't know if you know, he hangs the bin Laden's. I.

[Robert Kelly]

He wasn't there. No, he's not. Jay, Jay, don't say that. Don't say it on radio and film.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

That never happened, right?

[Robert Kelly]

No, it was all lies.

[Will Gilmet]

No, he wasn't there that day.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

He wasn't there. But day one, bin Laden, day two, Pete.

[Robert Kelly]

Well, you're saying he has 30 brothers, though?

[Yoshi Obayashi]

There's 50 some odd siblings.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, 50.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Same father, different mother.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah, well, that's because you get to have a bunch of different broads over.

[Big J Okerson]

They're all super stoked in the same though.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

No, it wasn't them.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, Omar bin Laden. Nice. Dude, look at this guy.

[Robert Kelly]

That looks like one of your fans.

[Big J Okerson]

It really does. Omar bin Laden's gonna be at Skankfest this year.

[Robert Kelly]

Where is he?

[Big J Okerson]

He's an artist and an author. His art's been exhibited in France where he lived until 2023. Nice. This kid, you know, dude, he doesn't live in his father's shadow. He said, I'm gonna make my own path.

[Robert Kelly]

Well, apparently he was kicked out of France for praising his father.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, nice. Also, he's got a really weird fat neck. It looks like Wayne Raider with a wig on.

[Robert Kelly]

If I'm being completely honest, it looks.

[Big J Okerson]

Disturbingly like Wayne, pal. My dad said some things, some deplorable things, pal.

[Robert Kelly]

That's so funny to see an Arab doing a rock outfit.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, I know. It really is. Like you got up some. A leather jacket.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah. That's weird.

[Big J Okerson]

Who's your dad? The architect of 9 11. It comes with some perks.

[Robert Kelly]

Dreads.

[Big J Okerson]

Hell yeah, dude.

[Robert Kelly]

Oh, I like the drags. Those are nice.

[Big J Okerson]

What? This guy rules.

[Robert Kelly]

They should. All terrorists should have that hair.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah. This guy should be in a Maybach with Pete Davidson.

[Robert Kelly]

So you're over there.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

And so how, How? I mean, were the shows packed?

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Yes, the ones I went.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah, but were there. I saw some things where. It was like some empty shows. Was that at the case or were they all.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Mind you, I was only there for like five days. I only saw a couple shows and the ones I went. It was packed, obviously. Pete and Russell was completely packed in the green room.

[Robert Kelly]

Did they have like chicken salad and a deli plate? Yeah, and Rolexes and.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

No, no, no, nothing. Like.

[Big J Okerson]

Virgins? Sluts. Hairy sluts.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Yeah, none of that.

[Robert Kelly]

Boys dressed as girls that you could take.

[Big J Okerson]

Boys dress like ladies.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

None of that stuff.

[Big J Okerson]

I just like, like, like parts of the. The Blackhawk helicopter that went down.

[Robert Kelly]

That was in Africa.

[Big J Okerson]

Huh?

[Robert Kelly]

That was in Africa.

[Big J Okerson]

What are you talking about?

[Robert Kelly]

Not Syria, right? Or no, Mangladisho.

[Big J Okerson]

Pakistan.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

No, it was not Black Hawk Down.

[Robert Kelly]

No, Blackhawk. That was in Africa.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Yes.

[Big J Okerson]

What?

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Yeah, dude, they met a porno.

[Robert Kelly]

What is it? Maga. What is it? I forget the name.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Maga.

[Robert Kelly]

No, not Mega Mogadishu.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

That's it.

[Robert Kelly]

Mogadishu. Yeah, it's Africa.

[Big J Okerson]

One of the plane. I thought one of the Blackhawk helicopters went down when they were going to get.

[Robert Kelly]

Oh, you're talking about that one.

[Big J Okerson]

Yes, yes, that Blackhawk that went down.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah, it was.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

That was in Pakistan.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah, that was. Okay, you. We were both right. Yes, you said Blackhawk down.

[Big J Okerson]

Anyway, Pete Davidson, Russell Peters doing ketamine with the bin Laden brothers. It's legal over there.

[Robert Kelly]

It's alleged.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, I'm gonna go take a dump. You guys talk.

[Robert Kelly]

So.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, my God.

[Robert Kelly]

Was there anything like. Was there anything like exotic backstage? Anything? Was it just a regular green room?

[Yoshi Obayashi]

It was a regular green room.

[Big J Okerson]

It was like a therapy tiger.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

I will say I can't mention the person's name because I just met this.

[Robert Kelly]

I just told this Ben Laden's brother.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

No, no, no.

[Big J Okerson]

Kathy Griffin. I'll say it for you. Kathy Griffin did what? Had lunch with all the other bin Laden.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

I left the room for like 10 minutes, came back and they murdered somebody.

[Robert Kelly]

They murdered a woman.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

There was a very funny comedian in the room. I only met this person for the very first time. Right, and it's one of your friend, but I don't want to say which one.

[Big J Okerson]

Jessica Kirsten got her hand cut off.

[Robert Kelly]

Oh, they cut her clit off. You have it. You stole it. It was on the floor and you made a earring out of it.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

This person want to know, are you. Are you hosting the show? And I told this person, no, ask me. Are you comic? Yeah, Then we were talking back and forth. I just opened for Russell whatnot. And I asked him, I asked him, how's it going? He's like, are people bothering you? And like, yeah. Not realizing the backlash. So I told this person that it might take 5, 10, 15, 20 years down the road, but he's on the right side of the history. This thing was a great thing, a win for many, many people.

[Robert Kelly]

Did you say it's going to take 15 to 20 years for him to not be.

[Big J Okerson]

Bill Burr's going to be dead by this.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

No, no, no. I'm not talking about.

[Big J Okerson]

Stop.

[Robert Kelly]

You can't. You know how to talk.

[Big J Okerson]

I'm just looking at the poster.

[Robert Kelly]

No, no, but you're not supposed. Word. He would have said it if he wanted to say it.

[Big J Okerson]

All right, so I heard that someone heard that Louis CK Brought home slaves.

[Robert Kelly]

No, no, he already has slaves.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, thank God.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

So he was a little relieved because he's a very funny person, but he didn't realize the backlash. And. And here's the thing. There's so many Saudi kids saw this person perform. He or she is going to say, hey, I saw you perform 14, 15 years ago when I was a teenager. I'm a comedian now.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

They made a world difference. This event is a good thing.

[Robert Kelly]

That's what happened in Japan for you, right?

[Yoshi Obayashi]

What do you mean? You saw arrive to Pearl harbor or what's a Hiroshima? What are you going to say? Nagasaki, Tsunami, Radiation. I know, Bobby, come on. I know.

[Robert Kelly]

No, it's on film. It's on film.

[Big J Okerson]

I'm not saying it. I'm just showing people.

[Robert Kelly]

All right, we can't show it.

[Big J Okerson]

It was definitely Josh adamyers. Josh Adam Myers toured with the Bin Laden Brothers Band. Did he open for him?

[Robert Kelly]

Scootette and Skippity Bob? You wearing a burqa? I can't see your face, but I see your eyes. It's good to be.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

It's good to be here. The first and the last time I'm here.

[Robert Kelly]

No, you can come back. You'll have to come back. No, I don't. This is the only thing you'll be able to be allowed on anym. So. So. But back. But what was the. So people were saying that the festival. That it was just the rich people.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

No, that's not true.

[Robert Kelly]

Okay. They were saying it's. Yeah, you perform, but it's only. It's not the people. It's the rich chic. They didn't let the regular people in to see the show.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Can I tell you something? I Hope you do.

[Robert Kelly]

We're on the radio.

[Big J Okerson]

Is there any truth to the fact that Bill Burley made his wife wait in a cage at the airport until his shows were over?

[Robert Kelly]

Stop.

[Big J Okerson]

No, I'm asking if that's true.

[Robert Kelly]

I can't handle you. I can't. You need to look at me. Look at me.

[Big J Okerson]

Control.

[Robert Kelly]

Control yourself, young man.

[Big J Okerson]

I wasn't there. I have questions.

[Robert Kelly]

I know have better questions.

[Big J Okerson]

I've heard from my own brain that there's a good chance they kept saying it.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Okay, this is very uncomfortable.

[Big J Okerson]

I've been vaping that cop. Good cop. I'm a good guy, so I'm vaping, though. I'm fine.

[Robert Kelly]

Listen, I want to answer. So. So were there regular people there?

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Yes. I mean, tickets were relatively cheap.

[Robert Kelly]

How much. How much was it? Ticket? 50 diamonds. You have to like.

[Big J Okerson]

Like fine silk.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah, yeah. Do you have, like, spices and like, paprika?

[Yoshi Obayashi]

I mean, even for Russell Peter tickets, I think they were like 20, 30 bucks.

[Robert Kelly]

Really?

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Yes.

[Robert Kelly]

No, that makes sense.

[Big J Okerson]

Well, Paco has the spices.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

I mean, the. The government's paying for everything anyway. It's like, you know, so they were.

[Robert Kelly]

Giving the tickets away, basically.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

I mean, 20 or 30 bucks. I mean, I don't know what that means.

[Robert Kelly]

They weren't making money off of this festival.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

I don't think money was their objective. Right.

[Robert Kelly]

Because they're trillionaires.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

But to me, it doesn't really matter because all these comedians that don't know anything about that region or what this festival means to them. For example, this dumb idea that censorship is a big thing. It's not what people say on stage that really matter, it's what they say offstage is so significant because when these committees are talking to local. They're telling them subversive ideas. This is good for the people of Saudi Arabia and every comedian to attack this festival, not one single one of them asks, well, what does the people in Saudi Arabia want? Because they're not stupid. They live in virgins.

[Big J Okerson]

They want 72 of them. And they'll do anything.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

There's a lot of virgins. That is true. That is true.

[Big J Okerson]

They will do anything for those virgins.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

It's true, but.

[Robert Kelly]

Good point, Che.

[Big J Okerson]

Thank you.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Because he's younger than myself, but we're around our age. Remember during Soviet Union, American arts and musicians, I mean, they were performing Soviet Union. You know, Elton John, she's bringing me.

[Robert Kelly]

To the Cold War.

[Big J Okerson]

You remember, Bobby?

[Robert Kelly]

I remember when Swartz and American music.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Movies, books, all the service things really help topple the Cold War.

[Big J Okerson]

Remember you sent a picture of Gorbachev above your weight bench.

[Robert Kelly]

I still have it.

[Big J Okerson]

Gorbachev.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

So these comedians, I don't care if they got by a lot of money. I don't care if they had a wrong reason to go there. The fact that they went, this is a good thing in the long run.

[Robert Kelly]

You're saying it's a good thing because the people, the youth of that country got to see American stand up comedy.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

To see them Americans. Not a bad people.

[Robert Kelly]

Right, Not a bad people.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

And they learned how to do criticism by using humor. And you know, I know for a fact Louis CK was kind enough to give four tickets to Saudi comedians because it was completely sold out. They didn't have the money for it. You don't hear stories like that. So he did a wonderful thing. I mean he changed these kids lives.

[Robert Kelly]

You know, I mean he did get paid a million dollars. So it wasn't that he also performed.

[Big J Okerson]

In a pile of bodies. I heard no, stop, but I heard from somebody who's performing on the bodies.

[Robert Kelly]

So he, he bought some kids tickets.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

That didn't need them, give it to them. And, but in that, in that logic, how do you perform in usa? Because we kill people overseas all the time. We kill more people than Saudi Arabia. I'm just being honest. I'm US Citizen, by the way.

[Robert Kelly]

We spread it out. We don't do it all at once.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

No, but I mean, very selective. Like you think all your audiences are wonderful people. You have rapists and murderers in your audience.

[Robert Kelly]

How do you.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

I'm just saying you have some terrible people. Not.

[Robert Kelly]

We have two of them. We have two of them in the room right now.

[Big J Okerson]

I make my tour follow a week behind NAMBLA at all times. Wherever the North American Man Boy Love association moves, that's where I move slightly anthers. Surprisingly, I happen to be a week behind always.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

And, and you know, Marc Maron made a really good point, but he just had Obama again. And talk to your good friend Dave Smith. He'll tell you exactly what he think of Obama. He's done some terrible things overseas.

[Big J Okerson]

He does not enjoy Obama at all.

[Robert Kelly]

Dave Smith, thank you, Jay, thank you for your insight.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, I didn't know if you knew that.

[Robert Kelly]

Well, I did when he said it.

[Big J Okerson]

I mean, everyone respects his outside jumper for a president. For a president. No doubt. The guy's got a sweet, I mean, smooth as silk. Just pull up the whole thing. It's, it's perfect. Yeah, it's pretty good picturesque, but yeah. Overseas, huh?

[Yoshi Obayashi]

You're never going to Perform in a.

[Big J Okerson]

Perfect country, West Virginia.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Perfect place, perfect audience.

[Big J Okerson]

West Virginia's perfect audience. Inbred hillbillies with nothing to live for. And they love the word fucking.

[Robert Kelly]

So what you're saying.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

And all these young comedians that attack in Bel Burr, if they were given the opportunity to open for him, I bet you most of them would, you know, like my friend Andrew Manning said, he would do it for free.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, Josh did do it. Josh. Adam Myers did go out there to do it.

[Robert Kelly]

Muscle my way into things. Josh.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, yeah. So he just actually climbed onto the wheel of the airplane. He commandoed it when he got there, though.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

But, you know, I just think big picture is, I really think this is a good thing. I know a lot of people gonna complain about it, but I saw what I saw, and I think it was regular people.

[Robert Kelly]

So regular people in the crowd enjoying it.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

And I think most of the communities we have vindicated years to come. Because I honestly think. I don't think most of those comedians criticizing the festival really care about the people in Saudi Arabia. I really don't. It's a career thing.

[Big J Okerson]

It looks good.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

It makes them feel good. But I think a lot of them are scumbags.

[Robert Kelly]

Really.

[Big J Okerson]

Yes. The people who are saying wouldn't go.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Yeah, yeah. Because I've been to Afghanistan three times, and it's simple, stupid show like soap opera where these Afghan women tell women. Colombian soap opera where sloppy men are in the face. I have a job drinking alcohol, driving around. It's something to look up to. It's inspirational. So these comedians, what they did was. It's a wonderful thing. It's a great thing, you know, and I think they shouldn't feel ashamed. And I, like. I think I did hear a couple people had a meltdown off stage, you know, because the pressure was so much. So I feel bad for them.

[Robert Kelly]

There was pressure to perform?

[Yoshi Obayashi]

No, no, the backlash.

[Robert Kelly]

Oh, the backlash. Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

So is it true that Andrew Schultz and his crew raped several women backstage? No. No, but they said when in Rome. I think they were saying that. I think this is okay here.

[Robert Kelly]

Jay.

[Big J Okerson]

No, the black one and the one with the wacky hair. The other one. Jay and the Indian fella. J. What?

[Robert Kelly]

Stop. Nobody was.

[Big J Okerson]

I'm asking if they did. I didn't go. I wasn't invited. And we know for sure, though. I would have gone for no less than $100,001. $100,001. That's where I did a lie detector test to find out.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Would you have gone for real? If they offer you 200,000.

[Big J Okerson]

Turns out I thought no, but my body said yes. I did a lie detector test. I said no. I said no on purpose to things that I would definitely go for. A million without a doubt, 5 million without a doubt, 500,000. I was pretty sure I'd go for and of a 250 and 100,000. When I said no, I thought I was being honest about both. It turns out the only one I was honest about was $100,000 and one. So $100,000 I wouldn't go for. You had $1 to that. Negotiation starts. That's the beginning of my gray area. I may want to go. It's so funny. I said from the beginning I did have like some. I'm like, it's a weird place to kind of want to go. I thought I didn't care about anybody that was going. I think some of them are strange choices to go. But I have no, like anyone that's come home from it that I'd see. I just want to be like, what was it like? That's all. I don't like, I don't really get. I think it was strange that Jessica went, but she came back that she's made an interesting choice though by like kind of denouncing the whole thing and giving the money away. Almost like you said, she's.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

She's not.

[Big J Okerson]

If she jumping, is she jumping off the ship early? But is she jumping off the ship early?

[Yoshi Obayashi]

She did the worst thing, which is alienated both sides.

[Big J Okerson]

Did you say that's what I'm saying?

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Yeah. Be a man about it. Once you make a decision, she does her best.

[Will Gilmet]

You know what I mean?

[Big J Okerson]

She does everything she can.

[Robert Kelly]

I mean, she has sports jacket with shoulder pads.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

She's doing. She's doing what she can.

[Big J Okerson]

She's doing everything she can. She's double sided tape on her.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

I think she's a nice person, but I think that was a bad decision because once you made a decision to do it, to do that, you just look bad on both sides.

[Big J Okerson]

No, I kind of agree. It's what I'm saying. If you're, if you're banking on the idea that come 15, 20 years you'll be on the right side of history of some kind of change being made.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

She's gonna be on the wrong side. Both. She's.

[Big J Okerson]

She'll always be like the asterisk because she did it and then came back and was like, I shouldn't have done it.

[Robert Kelly]

That sucks.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

If that.

[Robert Kelly]

If that festival becomes the best festival ever for Comedians, Bruce Hills, they actually. The wall falls down, everything's awesome over there. And she can never go because she trashed them.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, yeah, that. And he goes, I'm swinging through on the way home. And I do some North Korean stuff while I'm out there too.

[Robert Kelly]

What if this festival changes?

[Yoshi Obayashi]

It's half measure and it's a bad thing to do. You go all the way, you know, like, I don't. I work. I used to work in sex business and I don't like these whores who became Christian later on. Once a whore, always, always stay a whore. Make a commitment to it.

[Robert Kelly]

I get to dawn every night. I whisper it in the air.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

It's a loser mentality. That's what I don't like.

[Big J Okerson]

Well, I think the. Sometimes I think especially with the porn girls, it's their only, like recourse when they have a kid.

[Will Gilmet]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

And stuff. And you got to bounce out of it. It's hard. It's got to be hard to try to make the kid understand. He goes, no, I don't want you to do this ever. But like, what it was, what it was. It's always got to be like, I made terrible, horrible decisions and was around awful, awful people.

[Robert Kelly]

Do you think once a whore, always a whore?

[Yoshi Obayashi]

You should be. I mean, make a commitment to that?

[Robert Kelly]

So you. Wait a minute.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

So I became a US Citizen. Like it'd be weird if I renounce and become some other citizen later on.

[Big J Okerson]

Alec Baldwin almost did. Remember he was going to leave and go to Canada if Trump won again.

[Robert Kelly]

That's right.

[Big J Okerson]

And then Trump won and his weird wife got on Dancing with the Stars and now he can't leave.

[Robert Kelly]

She's crying every goddamn day.

[Big J Okerson]

Every goddamn day.

[Robert Kelly]

So. So. But was there any specialness to it or was just a regular gig? Was it? I'm thinking these are trillionaires. They're paying all this money.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Well, most Saudis are poor and I.

[Big J Okerson]

Got smart food, popcorn in my green room. But these guys are princes and shit.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

They're doing this festival because they're in trouble. They realized they're running out of oil. Eventually they have to change the economy. The unemployment level for Saudi youth are very, very high. So they're taking chance too. When you bring all these foreigners into your country, like what Chinese call it, when you open the door, you bring fresh air, but you also bring mosquitoes and bugs and all the unpleasant things.

[Robert Kelly]

That's what Jay calls the Mexicans.

[Big J Okerson]

True. Unpleasants.

[Robert Kelly]

True. He says it every day.

[Big J Okerson]

Also for youthful employment in Saudi Arabia, I believe there's a couple of good jobs you can get Human bomb distraction for sniper.

[Robert Kelly]

Human bomb is great.

[Big J Okerson]

Fuck toy. Oh, my God.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

So much easier to do your part.

[Robert Kelly]

They don't do fuck toys anymore.

[Big J Okerson]

Anymore. You can't children over there.

[Robert Kelly]

No, not anymore.

[Big J Okerson]

Yoshi. Give me any reason why I should check this place out. They've gotten rid of child sex. What is left over there? Now lesbians can perform. What's next? Gingers are dominating, huh?

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Speaking of Jin Santino did really well, I heard.

[Robert Kelly]

Did he kill?

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Yeah, yeah, I heard. I heard Bobby Lee did really, really well.

[Robert Kelly]

Bobby. That's when I was worried about.

[Big J Okerson]

I thought Bobby Lee was taking to the sex trade.

[Will Gilmet]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

I thought Bobby Lee was going to get. Whip his little wing wang out and get arrested and get beheaded.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

No.

[Big J Okerson]

Everyone was kind of terrified to up. I would also guess you don't want to be the person who finds out.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

I. I think they're overreacting. I think. I'm sure you've done military gigs, right? They tell you all the things you cannot do.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

But they only say that to protect their ass. If they're a problem. People say whatever. And then I got trouble in.

[Robert Kelly]

In Baghdad, the last night of the USO show. There was a full bird kernel sitting to the left of the show with his legs crossed like a girl. I just. I didn't know what a full bird colonel was. I just started trashing him. And the place was loving it.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

Not knowing that I'm trashing the. The guy that they all trash.

[Big J Okerson]

Like, my dad was in Vietnam, a real war, and.

[Will Gilmet]

He got.

[Robert Kelly]

And I got in trouble. He got mad and left. And the lady came up to me and she's like, you can't talk to him like that. I'm like, who the fuck that's a full bird colonel. I go, I don't know what the fuck that means.

[Big J Okerson]

You just got two fucking people killed in Guantanamo with that attitude.

[Robert Kelly]

Tell him to sit like a man.

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[Big J Okerson]

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[Big J Okerson]

91 1. All new Thursdays, 87 Central on ABC and stream on Hulu. And now back to the bonfire with Big J Okerson and Robert Kelly, our guest, first time on the show. Very, very exciting. Yeah.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Yes.

[Big J Okerson]

He's a fighter. 10 professional record, but it counts as 170 to me because it was a black guy.

[Will Gilmet]

Wow.

[Robert Kelly]

What the shit?

[Big J Okerson]

No, not just me. I think it takes more talent to do that.

[Robert Kelly]

Oh, my God.

[Big J Okerson]

His next fight is the CES Boxing presents the Autumn Classic at Mohegan Sun Arena, Saturday, November 1st. For tickets go to cesfights.com it is the great Will Gilme. Am I saying it right?

[Will Gilmet]

Gil.

[Big J Okerson]

Matt Gilmat.

[Will Gilmet]

Thank you guys so much for having me. I can't thank you enough. Appreciate it.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, you said Gilme. Yeah, he said Gilme.

[Robert Kelly]

I said check on it.

[Big J Okerson]

You said me and him are super close friends. You've been letting him stay at your house for free and you watch him sleep. You said.

[Robert Kelly]

You said you train him with chickens.

[Big J Okerson]

You said that's why you wear these kind of dumb hats now because you started training boxers because you can't win.

[Robert Kelly]

Wow. Where the did that come from?

[Big J Okerson]

That was mostly ever put in, but it helps. That was. That was the most microphone work I've ever seen him do.

[Robert Kelly]

That's great.

[Big J Okerson]

He likes Will. He likes a tough man.

[Robert Kelly]

So how old are you, first of all? Because you look young.

[Will Gilmet]

Oh, yeah. I'm 23 years old.

[Robert Kelly]

Wow. Kid.

[Big J Okerson]

Damn.

[Robert Kelly]

Wow. And now, now, how long you been boxing?

[Will Gilmet]

My first fight. I was 14 years old. My first amateur fight.

[Robert Kelly]

So is that your stepdad? Yeah. He's hitting your mom?

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah.

[Will Gilmet]

Had to get him back.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, yeah. I bet he never touched your penis. Again though, did he?

[Robert Kelly]

That's true.

[Big J Okerson]

That was the last time.

[Robert Kelly]

That's wild. That's good for you.

[Big J Okerson]

Every day, every time he sees the guy across from him, it's just some gu. Pawing at his penis just to punch him. Yeah. Stop trying to touch my penis. The boxer's like, k what?

[Robert Kelly]

That's why the black guy got knocked out. He what this. Just say what?

[Big J Okerson]

You're touching my penis.

[Robert Kelly]

What?

[Big J Okerson]

Hey, player.

[Robert Kelly]

He put his hands out.

[Big J Okerson]

Whoa, whoa.

[Robert Kelly]

He put his hands down. Whoa.

[Big J Okerson]

Referee's going, one, two. He goes, this wife went crazy. Keeps saying something about touching his penis.

[Robert Kelly]

I did my time for that.

[Big J Okerson]

14 years old. First professional fight was this year.

[Will Gilmet]

Yeah. May 10th. Foxwood Casino. Yep.

[Big J Okerson]

What? Good.

[Robert Kelly]

Sorry. So. So when you're, when you're making your first professional debut, how nervous was that?

[Will Gilmet]

It was really nerve wracking. You know, it's different. So amateurs, you have the headgear on, you have a little heavier gloves. Pro, you have smaller gloves, no headgear. So it's a little bit of getting used to in there. Bigger crowd, bigger venue.

[Robert Kelly]

Did you get hit at all?

[Will Gilmet]

I hit with one punch.

[Robert Kelly]

How was it?

[Will Gilmet]

It honestly took my nerves away because I. After I hit that first punch, I was like, alright, that's nothing. You know, it was.

[Robert Kelly]

Right.

[Will Gilmet]

It kind of slipped off. The headgear kind of catches it and gives you more of like a. Like a. I don't know, like you hit in there with a pill, you know, I mean, boom. It moves your head hard. Kind of slipped right off. So after that I was like, all right. My nerves went away and I, I just locked in because it was a flush.

[Big J Okerson]

Like he caught you with a good shot and it wasn't that big of a deal.

[Will Gilmet]

I kind of slipped right through my gloves, you know, caught me in the chin a little bit, but it didn't. Didn't phase me at all. You know, when I got punched in the face at the exact opposite.

[Big J Okerson]

Well, that was by a woman.

[Will Gilmet]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

And you're trying to steal her panties on a train. That's true.

[Big J Okerson]

You can't take panties off somebody, Jacob.

[Robert Kelly]

You have to ask for that.

[Big J Okerson]

Steal panties, idiot.

[Robert Kelly]

Unless you're in Rihad, you do whatever.

[Big J Okerson]

The you want, my man.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah. Wait till next year. Bump by Riyadh with a Yoshi.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah. Yoshi's already got death threats on three different women out there that if they have to sit there and wait for the rest of the year until he comes back.

[Robert Kelly]

It's not me eating on the air, by the way. Ed Joey, Joe, whoever the guy was. It's Yoshi. He goes to this other country. And they just do that over there. Yeah, yeah, you can eat on radio over there.

[Big J Okerson]

Is this. I guess that's how they do it in the Mid East.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Yoshi.

[Big J Okerson]

Classic Yoshi. Look at this sultan's personality. He's got all of a sudden.

[Robert Kelly]

What, what nationality you?

[Will Gilmet]

Italian, Irish, Italian, Portuguese and French.

[Robert Kelly]

No shit, right? And now is your dad a boxer? Who got you into boxing?

[Will Gilmet]

Honestly, I. My brother right here, his friends. I used to hang out with his friends. I was young, growing up, and they all went to a boxing gym and I used to wrestle, played all the sports growing up, and I tagged along with them and I just stuck with it.

[Robert Kelly]

And now you can them all up.

[Will Gilmet]

Them all up.

[Robert Kelly]

Are you an older brother? You're the older brother now. Can he. Can he you up or do you. Huh? In the ring, outside. You'll bite his face out in the street. Jesus Christ. That's what I tell my son all the time. I'll bite your ear off.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

So. So now what is the next step for you? You're going to. Are you going to fight for a belt or what's the. What's the end goal for you?

[Will Gilmet]

So the end goal's a world title, you know, so really you gotta work your way up, fight around here, build a local following, you know, or New England, I should say. But once you get that local following, you move on to the next step, you know, go out to Vegas, hopefully get an opportunity to fight for a world title.

[Robert Kelly]

Who's your toughest opponent? What's your next opponent like? What is your.

[Will Gilmet]

My next opponent actually just dropped out yesterday.

[Robert Kelly]

Was he scared?

[Will Gilmet]

I guess so.

[Robert Kelly]

I was knocked out. A black guy. You're a white guy.

[Will Gilmet]

I was placed.

[Big J Okerson]

Was it gonna be a white guy?

[Will Gilmet]

It was gonna be a Spanish guy from Boston.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, he's already seen you take out a black guy. He don't want to Boston.

[Robert Kelly]

Spanish guys in Boston for scary, they talk like, fucking this kid.

[Will Gilmet]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

And it's weird, but I hear a fucking Spanish guy going, dude, I'm fucking Puerto Rican. And he sounds like Marky Mock.

[Will Gilmet]

Yeah, exactly.

[Big J Okerson]

But hell yeah, the ghost says, bring me your blackest. Bring me your blackest opponents.

[Will Gilmet]

That's it. But in the amateurs, I had real tough fights, you know, going out to nationals. Around in New England, you can't fight that much. There's only maybe a fight every. Every other month. You know, you got. You fight guys from down south. They're fighting once a Week, you know, so I was fighting guys with 150 fights and nationals and that was a tough fight.

[Robert Kelly]

You know, I wonder because Yoshi's a black belt. Nikita, we want to fight. We want to see if you guys can fight right now. What's a better sport?

[Will Gilmet]

Box.

[Big J Okerson]

Now, Yoshi, right before you walked in, mind you, he didn't get to meet you yet. He said boxing's for ladies.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

And then Yoshi California gave you the finger. This is, by the way, after just denouncing America for the past hour.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah, so. And he said it to me.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Can I ask you something? Did you talk to Russell?

[Big J Okerson]

No.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Every time he bring this Con Li, this Vietnamese mixed martial art guy, as soon as he walk in, Russell would say, yoshi, why do you say Vietnamese people smells like a dog and they look like. And he does it every time when you bring mixed martial art guys in there. Like, I don't.

[Big J Okerson]

So dumb to realize that mean they eat dog. White people smell like dog.

[Robert Kelly]

That's why you're you.

[Big J Okerson]

That's why we're the best racists.

[Robert Kelly]

That's right. You did say he does smell like salami, though. Go ahead, tell him.

[Big J Okerson]

Very exciting. What do you remember? Your nerves calm down when you got hit. I'm always curious with professional fighting, I guess, or amateur too. The walk to the ring and it's such a moment of like you're. You want to give off confidence. But like I would just feel like there'd be. So that's what all the doubt would be coming. I mean, I know you can't be that way or it just doesn't work. But Tyson said in that one thing, he said he was like full of self doubt until he stepped through the, like the ropes. And then it was like a switch went off.

[Will Gilmet]

Yeah, it's exactly that. So like before you cross those doors, you know, it's kind of quiet. And then as soon as you walk out and hear all your people there, it gives you that, like that here on the back, your neck stand up and you. All right, here we go.

[Robert Kelly]

It's the same thing on stage. Like I, I get nervous every show. I don't want to look at the crowd. I hate when the fucking middlers always leave the door open to the green room and I get up. But as soon as you. They say your name, it just goes away. Something just happens.

[Will Gilmet]

Yeah, it's weird. I don't understand it. I was going to say I don't know how you guys talk because I was more nervous for this than my actual Fight. I can't talk in front of people for some reason.

[Big J Okerson]

You should be.

[Robert Kelly]

Because we're gonna fight you one on one right now. Jay, go.

[Big J Okerson]

This is your training. You have to fight every one of us one on one.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah. Christine's last.

[Will Gilmet]

She's the toughest, though.

[Big J Okerson]

It's very possible.

[Robert Kelly]

Probably. Yeah, probably.

[Big J Okerson]

She probably. I'll tell you this. She could take a punch. The best. I don't know how tough she is, but I can tell you this.

[Robert Kelly]

So what is your. I wanna know your song. You come out to too.

[Will Gilmet]

I'm still deciding for this one. My last fight, I walked out to Black Betty. I don't know if I want to do. A horrible choice I've heard. But I don't know. I don't know if I want to do. I like listening to old school rap. When I'm training, I'm trying to figure out like a nice old school rap song.

[Robert Kelly]

But JJ Helper, he. Jay helped me.

[Will Gilmet]

What would you do, Jay?

[Robert Kelly]

I changed my song last weekend.

[Big J Okerson]

There Goes the Neighborhood by Body Count. There it is.

[Robert Kelly]

Let's hear it.

[Big J Okerson]

Now, they're gonna have to heavily edit it because says the N word a lot. But it's a black guy saying it.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah. Is iced tea full black, huh?

[Big J Okerson]

Why? Because he has a ponytail, you think? He can't be.

[Robert Kelly]

This is his metal band.

[Big J Okerson]

This is metal band. Yeah. No, I know, but still, it's pretty great.

[Robert Kelly]

What do you think about this?

[Big J Okerson]

Or Talk gets shot.

[Robert Kelly]

He doesn't like.

[Will Gilmet]

A little too metal for me.

[Robert Kelly]

A little too metal. You like rap?

[Will Gilmet]

I like rap.

[Robert Kelly]

Old school.

[Will Gilmet]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

Old school rap. Jay, what do you got? Look at his face. Look at his face.

[Big J Okerson]

Rapper's delight.

[Robert Kelly]

No, no. Let's hear it. Let's hear it.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Yeah, let's hear it.

[Big J Okerson]

Think about it.

[Robert Kelly]

This would scare the shit out of me if some white guy came up with this song. This guy don't give a. Oh, yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

And I'm thinking a lot more fringe on your outfit.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah. A guy with a mirror in front of you holding it.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, I like this.

[Will Gilmet]

Not bad, not bad.

[Big J Okerson]

And then you wait and then just maybe something choreographed.

[Robert Kelly]

Introduce him, Jay, like you're the guy. You're introducing the next fighter from parts unknown.

[Big J Okerson]

White Gu knocked out black guy. Make some noise for Will Gilmour.

[Will Gilmet]

I'm doing it. That's it.

[Big J Okerson]

Hip hop. What would it. Bang bang.

[Robert Kelly]

Just have a really psychotic, bouncy, smiley walkout. Yeah, yeah. Just don't blink, though. Like Christopher Walken the whole way down.

[Will Gilmet]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

How about confuse the shit up Here, come out to something like little Kim, where it's just her discussing being fucked over and over again. I throw my lips on that dick, get them balls in my mouth and just confuse everybody. What the he walking out to?

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

And then like, you have a psycho look on your face, but also mouth the words of everything.

[Robert Kelly]

Lips to that.

[Big J Okerson]

Suck it down. Down to the ball bag, get it down the bottomless throat.

[Robert Kelly]

Do you understand how great that would.

[Big J Okerson]

Be if you came out to that or just. Just maybe Middle Eastern chanting. Acapella.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah. Nothing else.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah. But also then in that, with that one. It's all about your face too. I want you to seem confused by that. Be like, I think they put the wrong. This isn't my thing. No, this isn't my thing. The whole time, go. No, I think this. No, they put the. I brought the wrong tape.

[Robert Kelly]

I It. Let's go now. Because there's not a lot of good white dudes anymore. There used to be white champions and white there's none. It's like Spanish and black dudes own boxing.

[Will Gilmet]

The last one. So my nickname, the Ghost, it comes from. I don't know if you've ever heard of Kelly the Ghost Pavlick. He's from Ohio. Yeah, he was a world champion. So when I was growing up going to inner city boxing gyms, they always bust my balls, you know. Oh, look at. The Ghost is here. The Ghost is here. So kind of just stuck from there, right?

[Robert Kelly]

And you look like a ghost in the room full of black kids.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Can I ask you something?

[Will Gilmet]

Yeah.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

I saw a fight with Floyd Mayweather once, and he was fighting white. I don't know.

[Big J Okerson]

What, you could be him, right?

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Of course.

[Big J Okerson]

Is that the question? I saw Floyd Mayweather once. Can you beat him?

[Robert Kelly]

He.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

He just beat up this white guy so hard, he looked like Picasso. Like, face was all fucked up, you know, you can see bruises and everything. When you find a black person, can you still see the bruises because they're so dark already? It seems like you do more damage to a white person than a black person because.

[Robert Kelly]

Yoshi, hang on, don't answer this.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

No, no, but it's not.

[Robert Kelly]

See what you did, Jay. See what you did?

[Big J Okerson]

I understand what you're saying. Is it more rewarding 20 times versus.

[Robert Kelly]

Jay, you get hit? Yoshi, everybody.

[Big J Okerson]

Yoshi, I think you're doing fine, Bobby, you're being good to our guests.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

No, no, what I'm saying, like, if you get hit 20 times in your face and versus this gentleman, could you. You know what I mean? Like it seems like you have more damage in your face, you know?

[Robert Kelly]

What you mean, right?

[Big J Okerson]

Well, because.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

What is that terrible question?

[Big J Okerson]

Because Black glue, you're saying, and people like Black Lou have caveman heads and.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

No, that's not what I said.

[Robert Kelly]

You're saying they have tougher skin.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

No, no, no. Because they're already dark. You can't see bruises.

[Robert Kelly]

Yep.

[Big J Okerson]

They're slippery because when they sweat, they're shiny. And then the gloves slide right off.

[Will Gilmet]

Right.

[Robert Kelly]

Because of the cocoa butter. Just say it. Now, your dad, Yoshi, would you like.

[Big J Okerson]

To touch Black Lou's hair?

[Robert Kelly]

No.

[Big J Okerson]

Okay. Okay.

[Robert Kelly]

I would. So you're. Are you the only boxer in your family professional?

[Will Gilmet]

Yeah. Yep.

[Robert Kelly]

Right. And is your mother okay with you?

[Will Gilmet]

No. She's. She's been to a few fights, and every time I'm walking out, she just gets up and walks out, you know?

[Robert Kelly]

Have you ever. Have you been knocked out? Have you been.

[Will Gilmet]

No. Knock on wood. I've never been knocked out or dropped.

[Big J Okerson]

And she's Italian. Does she go, you're killing your family?

[Will Gilmet]

She's the Portuguese one.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, shit. They're the most in the fighting.

[Robert Kelly]

So your father went to your fight where you knocked this guy out?

[Will Gilmet]

Oh, yeah. My mom was there, too, but she didn't watch. She put her face in her hands.

[Robert Kelly]

Was it like an Eddie Murphy skit? Yeah. Get me some Ray Rocco.

[Will Gilmet]

That really is to put her head down, too. Too long. You, man. Yeah, she kind of listens, you know, She'll. She'll. She'll gauge the room off the.

[Robert Kelly]

Were you a little unsatisfied, though, like, because you train so hard, you do all this, months and months of getting there, and you didn't really get to, you know, test yourself or go a couple rounds just to.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Definitely to feel.

[Robert Kelly]

So it is like winning. Like, that is great, but it also.

[Will Gilmet]

Is like, if you see my face after they call it, people like, oh, you don't look too happy. I'm like, Cause I want to go in there, you know, use my. What I just did for the last, I don't know, two months, three months of just locking in and working game plan, you know, but can't be too.

[Big J Okerson]

Mad, you know, you already got the skills. Now we need the marketing. I think your mom should go reluctantly to every fight and then fight the mother of the other fighter in the audience. She always has to be stopped, like, because she doesn't want to watch the fight anyway. So they could always be like, oh, here we go. His mom's getting kicked out again. This is every Fight at this point now. Hey, you just try to go at her and they kick her out of the arena.

[Robert Kelly]

I think the mom should get us intro song too when she comes.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, I like that too. Like the. There should be the. The Stone Cold, the Shattered glass. Mom's here.

[Will Gilmet]

Give my mother a couple nips. She's not losing.

[Robert Kelly]

Easy, easy, easy. Sorry.

[Big J Okerson]

Mama coming home.

[Robert Kelly]

So. So here's the thing, right? You're young, you're ready to go. You have a manager. Do you have somebody like Mickey? Do you have. You know.

[Will Gilmet]

Yeah, I have my uncle. You know, he has a lot of connections and for where I'm from and he's kind of looking over for me.

[Robert Kelly]

And he's in the mom.

[Will Gilmet]

Yeah, he knows the game real well, you know, really.

[Big J Okerson]

Down on State Road or wherever the. What's in Providence there.

[Robert Kelly]

Hey, you did good the last fight. This guy down the street owes me money. So go over there and get that what you can.

[Big J Okerson]

Okay. Stugots, Federal Hill. You go right now.

[Robert Kelly]

Have you. Have you where you from again?

[Will Gilmet]

I'm from Coventry. Coventry, Rhode Island. It's 10 minutes, 15 minutes from Providence, Rhode Island.

[Robert Kelly]

I love Rhode Island. It's one of my favorite town. It used to be. It used to be heavy mob back in the day. A lot of. A lot of times all the strip.

[Big J Okerson]

Clubs out there got shut down for underage strippers.

[Robert Kelly]

The strip club. The strip clubs.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

How did you know that?

[Will Gilmet]

Best strip clubs on the news.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Oh yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

He reads. No, the strip clubs in we from.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

We.

[Robert Kelly]

I used to live in Boston.

[Will Gilmet]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

And we used to go to our line for the strip clubs because you could touch.

[Will Gilmet]

Oh yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

And. And that prostitution was legal.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Yes.

[Robert Kelly]

So they had all this.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

As long as it's in the inside of the house buildings, you can't do it outside.

[Robert Kelly]

I love you. So he knows everything about slutty.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah. If you guys have any questions for Yoshi. He worked in pornography for many years doing exactly what you think stunt.

[Robert Kelly]

Oh, don't forget he. He actually. He filled vaginas with milk too. And he filled with milk.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

My stage name was Geisha boy. So it's great to be here.

[Big J Okerson]

It was. Yeah, he had to put milk in. But women's. It's not gay, so don't get weird.

[Robert Kelly]

He made chocolate milk. So. So. Because in Rhode island it was. It was definitely really Italian, really mobbed up. But in the last maybe 15 years, it's kind of. It's a little woke now. It's a little. It's a little hipster y now. It's like Brooklyn right there. Yeah, right.

[Will Gilmet]

Moved out of Federal Hill a little bit. They're still there, but not. Not as prominent as back in the day.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah. Now where do you live? You live near Federal Hill at all?

[Will Gilmet]

Yeah, I'm only about 20 minutes from federal Hill.

[Big J Okerson]

Right.

[Robert Kelly]

You like Federal Hill Pizza?

[Will Gilmet]

You ever go there and I never been there.

[Robert Kelly]

Okay, what's your favorite meal after you're done fighting?

[Will Gilmet]

Honestly, I'm Italian, but I love Chinese.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Food because I'm here.

[Big J Okerson]

Did you ever Pauly D. Sister or something? He's from pro. He's from Providence probably. Do you have a girlfriend?

[Will Gilmet]

Yeah, I got a girlfriend right now.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

Is that tough when you're training?

[Will Gilmet]

Honestly, when I'm in training camp, it's. That's. Honestly when it's the easiest, but when I'm out of training camp, that's when it's the hardest.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, how old is she?

[Robert Kelly]

Get it?

[Will Gilmet]

She's my age, 20.

[Robert Kelly]

Get it? That's when it's the hardest.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, he's hard.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah, she's the same age.

[Big J Okerson]

I was hoping she was an old spinster who's a 53 year old who's funding his boxing career.

[Robert Kelly]

Listen, kid, I want you to eat my box before you go up. I used to make my husband win all the time. I got a lucky cooch at 6pm.

[Big J Okerson]

By the time I get all my salves and creams on, I'll be a good exhausted.

[Robert Kelly]

So finish me here, do me here. If you can make me come, you can make anybody come.

[Will Gilmet]

I mean, is that like Rocky? You can't. No women leading up to the fight. So back. I used to do that, right? Funny story. I used to do that. At least a week out I would. No, no blowing a load, no sex, no dragging off nothing.

[Big J Okerson]

Right?

[Will Gilmet]

It was the fight back from COVID and I was paired up against a kid who was real tough dude. He went pretty far in the nationals. Night before the flight, I had two wet dreams. I went out there the next day. No, no, not about the kids, but I went out there the next day.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

The only way you can win with.

[Robert Kelly]

Gay dreams.

[Will Gilmet]

That'S a myth. Ever since then, I don't follow it. I'll do like nothing.

[Robert Kelly]

That's why you knocked that black guy out real quick.

[Will Gilmet]

But yeah, I don't. I don't do that anymore.

[Robert Kelly]

So you. That. That's a myth anyway.

[Will Gilmet]

Yeah, yeah. Honestly, it makes you too aggressive. You got to go out there kind of calm. You got to be aggressive. But.

[Robert Kelly]

Right.

[Will Gilmet]

You gotta be calm. Get A clear head, you know?

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, I always. At your age, it's an interesting thing to have, like, the skills you have. Like, does that. Does it make you quicker to kind of laughingly walk away? Because again, at 23 years old, you're in a lot of situations probably where there's bullshit happening around someone looking for a problem in a bar, or hearing you're a boxer and seeing your beautiful bald face and just thinking that you're not going to be a prop. Do you know what I mean? And you have to be willing to, like. Because it's almost interesting. Like, at your age, I could also see wanting to, like, show off. Like, you know, you could see a person big. This guy's even a little bit drunk. I'm gonna drop this guy was bigger than me and be the coolest motherfucker at the bar. But you have to kind of be.

[Will Gilmet]

Like, I definitely walked around to some stuff in the past, but once you, like, I've hear stories like, you hit a guy, bounces head off the ground, he dies, you know, Definitely not worth. I walk away all the time now.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah, me too, dude. Walk away because I don't want to deal with it, dude.

[Big J Okerson]

You know what's freshened, actually?

[Robert Kelly]

What I told Jay, I go, you could knock somebody out, they bounce their fucking head off the ground, they're dead, dad. Then look at you.

[Big J Okerson]

I punched a guy and it knocked him out, and he bounced his head off the ground. And then when I flexed in front of Christine, after my heart racing stopped, I went like that to laugh. And then she goes, oh, great, you knocked out a gay guy. She just assigned him gay.

[Robert Kelly]

Anybody you knock out is gay.

[Big J Okerson]

That's what she says, according to Christine. Yeah, I guess so.

[Robert Kelly]

Why did you think he was gay? Because of his purse, his high heels?

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, because the way he sauntered and danced over to me. What do you want?

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Part of boxing business is there have to be showmanship, right? And you seem like a very, very sweet person, but don't you kind of have to be a jerk? I mean, the hate have to be big part of match, right?

[Will Gilmet]

Yeah, I really just stay myself, you know, you gotta have a big social media. I try to stay on social media like that, but I really don't go out there talking shit like that.

[Big J Okerson]

One fight in, it's like you have. You have time almost to kind of develop like you're like, whatever the purse. If there's gonna be some sort of.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

But eventually that has to be big a part of your life.

[Will Gilmet]

I mean, I guess yeah, you gotta have a sort of a character.

[Robert Kelly]

This is why you're terrifying to me. Because I see, like, down in the Village all the time, and kids, and you see a guy like this, and you're like, if he was being a jerk or doing something stupid, I might say something to him and be like, hey. Like some, hey, knock it the fuck off, kid. And he just. I just wake up a day later.

[Big J Okerson]

I love that.

[Robert Kelly]

That would.

[Big J Okerson]

That's the best part of all of it. You go. Even I was like, bobby, leave him alone. Yo. He's just a kid. Oh, oh, oh. Oh, God.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, God. Bobby's bleeding. That's blood. Bobby's bleeding.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah, he's not doing anything.

[Big J Okerson]

He's like, guy. Fucking kid came out of nowhere.

[Robert Kelly]

Why did milk come out of Bobby's.

[Big J Okerson]

Yoshi, you were out for a while. Yoshi loaded you up. He had the milk gun. What did you put milk guns? The funnel. And then they would. Is that fun to watch the milk? Like, the asshole slowly accept the milk. I'm sorry. We're bouncing back from guest to guest, and you poured milk into the assholes of these porn stars? It would like, but they're experienced girls.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

They've done it many, many times.

[Big J Okerson]

So they know how to, like, swallow. I think I'm learning how to do this with my bidet where there's a point where, like, I almost. It's almost like I'm pushing out, but I'm actually letting it open. Yeah, I blossom.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

I think we also do prolapse.

[Big J Okerson]

I'm not prolapsed. Don't even say that.

[Robert Kelly]

Not yet.

[Big J Okerson]

Not my.

[Robert Kelly]

Sounds like somebody drinking from a fountain.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

Oh, yeah. On my bidet, I know how to swallow it all. And then I spit it back out.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, he swirled around a little bit. No, I spit it back out.

[Robert Kelly]

No, I go on the front lawn, I spit it out on a bench. I have a little specially made spit bench. I call it.

[Big J Okerson]

All right, now, a boxing question.

[Robert Kelly]

So anyways, now, do you have, like.

[Big J Okerson]

Bouncing back and forth?

[Robert Kelly]

Do you have any. Do you have any special. Like, Tyson always had that thing where he'd, you know, duck, step to the left, and then, you know, uppercut or something like that. He had this little movie. Did you have a move?

[Will Gilmet]

I mean, I just like working the body, breaking them down, and then going for the headshot. So I'll go out there, work my jab, set them up, go to the body a little bit, get them tired, and then, honestly, you look at the body, the body with your eyes so you're looking at the body, land a nice body shot, and then you come up top. And that's usually a nice little secret in there, right?

[Big J Okerson]

Drop them down. The body's gotta be. It's not even like video games when I'm like playing stuff like that. It's, it's so, it feels like it's in the moment. So unrewarding. Because it doesn't like, they're able to kind of keep a better face on.

[Will Gilmet]

Yeah, exactly.

[Big J Okerson]

Shots than like taking it, like in the face.

[Robert Kelly]

I took. There was a guy back when I first got sober, there was a boxer in the AA meetings. And he.

[Big J Okerson]

Strangely, this is a porn question. He.

[Robert Kelly]

He, he, he got me into boxing. He's like, you know, you should box. And I was like, all right. So he brought me down to the gym and he, we, he taught me how to throw a punch and he did all this stuff. And then he was like, shadow boxing. And we shadow box and we shot for months. He just had me shadow box to the point where I was like, dude, what the are we doing? Can we please fight? And he's. And he got mad. He's like, you want to fight? Okay, tomorrow at 2 o', clock, meet me at the Lincoln School. Will spar. Not fight, but spa. And so I showed up. We were in a, like a junior high just parking lot. It was like 110 out. And he put the headgear on me, put the gloves on me, and he goes, okay, let's go. So I started fighting and I thought I had, I thought I had the goods, you know what I mean? So I, I literally, I hit him with a jab, I hit him with. And I hit him with a cross and he just took it. And then he hit me one time with a straight right and I just, I just never boxed again.

[Will Gilmet]

To the body. He got you?

[Robert Kelly]

No, he hit me in the fucking head. Hit me in the head. And it's. I didn't. Something happened. Like, I heard like, ringing and then my brain was fucked up. I felt like my nose fell off and I just, I go, I'm good. And I took the headgear off and I never have seen that guy again. I stopped going to that a meeting.

[Big J Okerson]

Well, I was gonna say starting. And when you were 14, though, like that. Did you get a chance to like, kind of like show in school, like shut it down in school where people would stop fucking with you if they were.

[Will Gilmet]

Yeah, I messed some kid up in school one time. And after that, it was it just one I walked in the cafeteria.

[Big J Okerson]

Black.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

Yes.

[Robert Kelly]

Jesus Christ. I'm sorry, Lou. Lou, I'm sorry. It's two, but we're gonna go back.

[Big J Okerson]

Don't act like you're not super impressed. Two zero versus blacks.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

He lives.

[Big J Okerson]

He got them both two down. Rhode island set him up. He's gonna knock him down. That was funny because I called him the Salem Trials.

[Robert Kelly]

I told you that we used to box. Me, Keith Robinson, Amy Schumer, Rachel Feinstein.

[Big J Okerson]

Stop calling it boxing.

[Robert Kelly]

It was boxing.

[Big J Okerson]

You went to an aerobics class.

[Robert Kelly]

No, it was boxing, Bobby. What?

[Big J Okerson]

You and Amy Schumer currently, right now, have the same amount of boxing skill as you had when you walked through those doors.

[Robert Kelly]

But we were going to boxing school and.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, boxing, you bull.

[Robert Kelly]

So one night at the Crunch Gym, they have a ring upstairs with a bell that goes off, you know, and me, Quinn, Keith Robinson, before the stroke. Colin and Colin Quinn. Yeah. Because Colin, you know, Colin likes to fight for some reason. Colin Quinn and Dove Davidoff, who does box. We went all over there. No headgear, Just threw the gloves on and started just throwing fucking shots. And I remember Dove, me and Keith did it, me and Colin did it. And then Dove got in and I hit him right in the face. And I. He goes a little thin. Hard to hit. Yeah, it was. He goes, bobby, you chipped my tooth. And he spit out a piece of his tooth and he lit me up. And I just went. And I was like, what the. Getting hit by someone who knows how to throw a punch is totally different.

[Will Gilmet]

Oh, yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

There's something else to it. Definitely then, like getting hit by you. You know, Jay can throw a punch. I wouldn't want to get by him. But you would probably throw a more savage punch.

[Big J Okerson]

Yes.

[Robert Kelly]

Let's try it. Yoshi, stand up for a second. You have a huge head.

[Big J Okerson]

Now listen, I want him to throw with his full punching power.

[Robert Kelly]

Yes.

[Big J Okerson]

Black Lou, get over here.

[Robert Kelly]

It'd be funny if he can't knock out a white guy. He can only do because he has Rhode island racism.

[Big J Okerson]

Be funny if he was aiming at you and still just decked. Black look as. Sorry, man, these things are heat seeking or something.

[Will Gilmet]

When you see people fighting in the street or they're trying to fight you, does it. Does it just look like they're fighting in slow motion? Like you could see their punch coming a mile.

[Big J Okerson]

Also, world star hip hop's gonna be hilarious to you.

[Will Gilmet]

Think it's a wide punch. It's just straight. Straight line, you know, right there.

[Robert Kelly]

I used to My pinky is broken, like, 19 times. Because when I used to fight as a kid, I used to throw these. I used to just throw a haymaker, sweeping hook and just use my weakest finger of all. Would hit and it would just break my finger, my knuckle.

[Will Gilmet]

Hit with this part of the hand, you know, you gotta hit with these.

[Big J Okerson]

Two knuckles right here. I've heard from plenty of people who, like, train boxing or they say that you're up in most fist fights, if you can just stay calm enough in a fight to remember, like, make your first few punches straightforward, Right. Most of the time, you'll make the connection, for it'll, like, end quick. Because like most people, that most people instinct is. It's all wrong. Like, your instincts are wrong. It's to swing as hard as you can from what. And also to go back like this, to not get hit versus, like, you should more, like, take shots, like, close.

[Will Gilmet]

In, people stick their neck up.

[Robert Kelly]

Yoshi just learned something you taught Loshi. It's not a kick. It's not the crane kick. It's a straight punch.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah. I'll tell you what. It doesn't matter. Even if you do crane kick right, people can defend. If do right, still can defend. It's telegraphed, I hate to tell you. In fact, it got defended in one of the other movies. He tried to throw it again, and the guy blocked it.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah. But then he learned the drum technique.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah. In a castle. He tried the crane kick, and the guy just. It was. It was. It was so dismissed. Quick, he goes, all right, here it comes. The guy was like, fucking dumb. Kick out of here. Shit. My whole thing now, bro.

[Robert Kelly]

Does your bro come to the ring with you? Does he walk you in like a Gracie?

[Will Gilmet]

Yeah, he walks me in.

[Big J Okerson]

Does he rap the whole time? That'd be awesome, dude. You should have him rap. Bring the Pain by method, man.

[Robert Kelly]

Do you now, do you box at all? What do you do?

[Will Gilmet]

I used to.

[Robert Kelly]

What do you do now?

[Will Gilmet]

I'm a firefighter.

[Robert Kelly]

You're a firefighter?

[Will Gilmet]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

Oh, it's great, man.

[Big J Okerson]

But he uses his fist for that too.

[Robert Kelly]

You punch the door.

[Big J Okerson]

He's a terrible firefighter. He's just punching a door. A hot door.

[Robert Kelly]

You must be real proud of your little bro, right?

[Will Gilmet]

Couldn't be more proud, right? That's crazy surreal, even being here right now.

[Robert Kelly]

Really?

[Will Gilmet]

Oh, yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

All right.

[Will Gilmet]

We've been listening for years.

[Robert Kelly]

Oh, cool.

[Big J Okerson]

That's awesome.

[Robert Kelly]

That is great, man.

[Big J Okerson]

Exciting.

[Robert Kelly]

So. So is there anybody else in your family that's gonna fight anybody you got any other brothers?

[Will Gilmet]

Maybe I'll pick up a smoker or something.

[Robert Kelly]

What?

[Will Gilmet]

I get exhibition. It's like a nothing.

[Robert Kelly]

Have you fought at all?

[Will Gilmet]

No, no, no, I just trained.

[Robert Kelly]

You trained?

[Yoshi Obayashi]

You trained with him?

[Will Gilmet]

Stop. When I went to college, yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

You got kids? You married?

[Will Gilmet]

No, no, not yet.

[Robert Kelly]

Single firefighter?

[Will Gilmet]

I got a girl, but.

[Robert Kelly]

Oh, you do? Yeah, because it's a lot.

[Big J Okerson]

You guys have sister?

[Will Gilmet]

No, just me and him.

[Big J Okerson]

Just, you know. Okay.

[Robert Kelly]

You got a tin banger. Isn't that what they call girls? Who. Firefighters. I love Rachel Feinstein.

[Will Gilmet]

Badge bunnies.

[Robert Kelly]

What is it?

[Will Gilmet]

Badge Bunnies.

[Robert Kelly]

Badge bunnies. I want a badge.

[Big J Okerson]

Fire sluts. They do want you to wear the uniform, but it doesn't look like a fun uniform. The in Hose.

[Robert Kelly]

Hose.

[Big J Okerson]

Hey, can you wear rubber waders while you fuck me, please?

[Robert Kelly]

What are your shorts? What are you. What do you. You have a. Do you have, like, a whole bunch of different. You have to get a new one every time?

[Will Gilmet]

Yeah, new one every time. I got a guy that. He makes them for me.

[Robert Kelly]

Like, wrestlers?

[Will Gilmet]

Kind of. Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

Have you ever gone crazy with it, or is it just.

[Will Gilmet]

My last one? I kind of like the. What's the word? Gladiator style. Like, the flap up front, flat on the side. This one I got. It's just, like, normal chunks.

[Robert Kelly]

You should do that next time. And have your hog out.

[Will Gilmet]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

Have it flip out at one point.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, I think that'd be great. Yeah. Just the thing. I just have elephant ears and just, like, a tube on the front. You don't actually have your wiener in it, but just make them think it is.

[Robert Kelly]

You remember the UFC fight with the guys who wang just slipped out of the side of his shorts?

[Will Gilmet]

I missed that one, and it.

[Robert Kelly]

You got to bring it up.

[Big J Okerson]

Ufc.

[Robert Kelly]

Ufc. The guy didn't miss it. The guy didn't wear underwear. He would. And he wore little tight shorts. And the guy grabbed him in his wang. Just. It did like, a. Like, a half a circle.

[Big J Okerson]

Nice.

[Robert Kelly]

And he got fired. He got fired immediately. Dana was like, you're out, but in the middle of the thing is. Nice. Nice piece, too. Just swung over.

[Big J Okerson]

I remember the guy that fought one time in, like, bikini, like, underwear. Like, he did his UFC fight, and that was when they changed. I think that was almost immediately they changed the uniform.

[Robert Kelly]

This is when they were like, you have to wear a cup. You can't have your schlong out. UFC guys, dick flips out. It's fucking awesome. Thank God he had a nice pace, though.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Why?

[Robert Kelly]

Because if it was me People like, what was that?

[Big J Okerson]

Was that a thank God for him?

[Robert Kelly]

Thank God for him.

[Big J Okerson]

Okay. You made it seem like it was exciting for you because I think I get a big dick. Cuz like, if that was a small dick, I'd have been so bummed to see that.

[Robert Kelly]

That, too.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, okay.

[Robert Kelly]

That too.

[Big J Okerson]

Okay, now we have to get everybody out of here.

[Robert Kelly]

Let me see.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, snap.

[Robert Kelly]

I want to see this before we got a minute.

[Big J Okerson]

No, his penis come out.

[Robert Kelly]

Bring out the penis. I want to see it just to end on a nice swang. Or bring up the girls.

[Big J Okerson]

Pullman.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

Okay.

[Robert Kelly]

I don't know. I know his dick. Show me his dick balls. Not dick. No, there was a dick that flipped out, man.

[Big J Okerson]

I don't remember that.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah, dick flipped out of the shorts. All right, we'll do it next.

[Big J Okerson]

I remember Lenny Kravitz's dick popped out of his pants. His pants split. I remember Chris Jones.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

Defensive player for. For the Kansas City Chiefs. His dick came out the NFL combine and almost hit the ground.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah. Now this guy's wang came out. Holy grab. The guy grabbed his shorts and his fight had no underwear. What a dummy.

[Big J Okerson]

This might be in your dream journal.

[Robert Kelly]

Yep. You know what? I might have dreamed this. I might actually might have done this on Sara. Whatever it is, Sarah, if I'm at.

[Will Gilmet]

A bar talking to a girl, do you think you could fake being terrified of me? Let's do it.

[Robert Kelly]

You trying to make a B movie from the 80s?

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah. Why don't you give him a thousand dollars, let me pretend to be your boyfriend for a month. Hey, can you make me cool at school? Will Gillette's next fight is the CES Boxing presents the Autumn Classic at the Mohegan sun arena on Saturday, November 1, at 6pm Eastern. I'm saying it right now, right?

[Yoshi Obayashi]

Gilmet.

[Will Gilmet]

Gilmat. That's it.

[Robert Kelly]

Nice.

[Big J Okerson]

6Pm Nov. 1. For tickets, go to ces fights.com or message is Instagram at Will Gilmet. G U, I, L, M, E, T, T, G, E. And of course, Yoshi.

[Robert Kelly]

Obayashi today. Thank you for coming in, bro.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

My Instagram at Yoshiobayashi. And yeah, if they could help me with that thing, I said that'd be great.

[Big J Okerson]

Spelled just how it sounds. Yoshiobayashi. You know it. You already got it.

[Robert Kelly]

And next time you see Yoshi at one of the shows, please sing that song. He loves that song.

[Yoshi Obayashi]

No, no, don't, don't.

[Big J Okerson]

Bobby's gonna be in Port Charlotte this weekend. I'm gonna be in D.C. this weekend. Pasadena next weekend. Just enjoy and enjoy the pre record tomorrow. We'll catch you guys next week. Until then, crackle crackle.

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[Robert Kelly]

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