
Jay watches "A Grammy Salute To Cyndi Lauper" and he falls in love with her all over again. Bobby can't understand his infatuation because of her wild outfits and baby speech. | Christine brings a book into the studio and it triggers Jay into remembering the bizarre incident where he was pulled off stage by an audience member. "Not Funny: The Soul Behind Joel" recounts the adventures of opening a comedy club during the pandemic. Soul Joel's was the venue where Jay was famously assaulted. Jay reads passages from the book and then tells what really happened from his perspective. *To hear the full show to go www.siriusxm.com/bonfire to learn more! FOLLOW THE CREW ON SOCIAL MEDIA: @thebonfiresxm @louisjohnson @christinemevans @bigjayoakerson @robertkellylive @louwitzkee @jjbwolf
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And now the bonfire with Big J. Okerson and Robert Kelly. Grammy salute to Cyndi Lauper was on ABC I think. Really? The other day. So good.
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She's so good.
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I know you love her.
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She does not enjoy me, but I love her.
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I mean, I think she's still adorable too. Really, I really do. And when she was young, I thought she was flat out just hot. I thought she was hot.
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She's just you as a woman.
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Yeah, but she comes out, she opens this thing. It's a concert she does at Hollywood Bowl. It looks amazing. She sounds great. She hits all the notes. She. She opens up with. She bop my fave probably. And then goes right into the Goonies song. And she goes. She goes, hey, you know, I like to tell the story about how this came about. And I wrote the song for this movie. And I think a couple of them are here tonight too. A couple of them. They show in the Audience, Martha Plimpton. And then Corey Feldman, this geezer now sitting with his tattoo faced fucking child bride, the new girlfriend, right? And who he's pushing music for so hard. She's sitting next to him in the audience. And she, you know that she plays the Goonies song. And they go to them a couple times and you can watch him fuck up the word. He doesn't know the words to the Goonie song. Yeah, and there's the fact they get him like. And he just tries anyway to like, say words that aren't the right words. Oh, it made me so happy. I don't know why. His failures do I get a kick out of them. What? What's your problem with her? This is a stupid outfit, for sure.
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I mean, she's stupid looking.
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It's a dumb outfit.
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It's dumb.
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Turn it up, turn it. Let me feel it. She bop, he bop a we bop, I bop, they bop, they bop, she bop.
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She looks like a fat alien, but.
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You bet shoe, but.
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Hey, Sorry. Hey, I'm sorry, dude, I'm sorry.
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Kelly Clarkson's a fat alien.
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What?
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Doesn't that feel bad?
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What the.
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I don't mean it. I don't mean it. But I'm just showing you how it feels.
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All right? You're right. I'm sorry. I apologize.
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This is a song about female masturbation, dude. How exciting is that?
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Is this your Kelly Clarkson?
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Maybe. Look how adorable she still is. Her little old lady chin.
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Dude, I don't know what.
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She dances like a buffoon.
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She's.
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I love her, dude. She does her thing.
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She does.
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Here, listen to the speech.
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Oh, look at that. Look at that ass. Look at that flat old lady ass.
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It's just a stupid outfit.
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Oh, that ass is awful.
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Her ass is fantastic. Dude, I gotta see a show at the Hollywood Bowl. This place is dope.
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She's toxic to a security guard at, like, Long island, like a festival.
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Have you ever seen a concert there?
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I saw the Stones there.
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No.
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That's awesome.
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What is she wearing?
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A wacky Cindy Lauper outfit.
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Why do all women, the older they get, they dress like starship commanders.
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She's also from Queens.
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Hang on. Let him get it. Let them have it. She does. She's talking about Luke. Luke. We must use the Force. Look, we must use the Fourth.
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She's an entertainer.
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She can't say fourth.
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She's from Queens and she's a real woman.
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We need the fourth, Luke. What? The Fourth. I'm sorry, that's a lack of respect. I apologize.
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I hate I'm sorry.
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She does. She looks like Lava.
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She's performing.
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Dude.
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She looks like Lava.
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Lava's fucking bright orange.
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No, it's not. What? It dries. I'm sorry. She looks like a dried lava flow.
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Thank you. That's better.
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I'm sorry, dude. I apologize.
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She's saying the goony stuff and we're missing it.
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I'm sorry. Go back.
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Turn it up.
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Go back to Lava.
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No, you went back too far.
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Oh, my.
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That's right. Listen to every goddamn word of it. Girls just want to have fun. You're trying to stifle that fun.
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I want girls to have fun, dude. I really don't. I do. I just think her Goo Goo Gaga voice should have grown out of it by now. Guys, you want me. Could you imagine her coming into a room, be like, you want me to suck on your ballsies and lick your Goo Goo guys. Yes.
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I can picture that.
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Why don't you put your pink lipstick into my coochie snack?
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What? You're saying very hot things. What is this? What's happening here?
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That's a piano.
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Because the end of the gay guy going nuts with her. Her and John Legend. Kill it.
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It's so good.
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But it was more just to show you the Corey Feldman's.
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What is that? That jacket that gay guy's wearing is from. From who?
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I couldn't guess. What the hell? That's the stupidest looking thing I've ever seen. It's.
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Talking Heads. He wore that type of thing.
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That's kind of the oversized thing. David Byrne. Yeah, but it's not really. It doesn't even look that tribute to that. It just looks gay.
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It does. They do look like they're on a spaceship, right?
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Yeah. I think it's like a giant gay thing. She looks cute. Look at her knuckle gloves and her fucking little thigh high panties.
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Yeah.
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Come on. 72. I looked it up. Looks pretty good, right?
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Yeah, I mean, she looks good for 72, but she's also a millionaire, which helps you look good at 72.
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Why do you hate her so much?
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I don't hate her. I'm just saying that she's not Kelly Clarkson.
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What?
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You heard me.
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Kelly Clarkson wishes she was Cyndi Lauper. Are you.
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And you know what? You're right. Kelly Clarkson would say that because she's humble.
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No, it's because Cyndi Lauper is iconic. Kelly Clarkson's a phenomenal singer.
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She's not. What? You're saying she's not iconic?
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No.
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She won American Idol.
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She's A daytime host, are you?
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She is now, but she's also. She's everything.
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She's phenomenal singer.
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She's everything. She tours, she's amazing. She sings, she hosts. She's down to earth. She's a good person.
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She's lost weight.
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She's lost weight. She looks great again.
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Oh, again what?
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Ooh.
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That means at some point you didn't think.
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You don't think Cyndi Lauper had ups and downs in that face over the years.
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Christine, you found the Soul Joel book in the break room. I see. Is there anything in this book about me getting yanked off stage?
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I have no idea. It was just sitting up there.
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Read the for.
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It was written by Louis Wheelchair Lou.
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Oh, yeah. Love Lou.
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She's a sweetheart.
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Love Lou. She gave me a ride. I had a really bad. When I was at Soldiers in the Field.
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Yeah.
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And I wasn't gonna make it to the. Because you had to go all the way to the building to. And she drove me on the back of her electric wheelchair.
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Really?
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All the way to the back.
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She drove you in a car? Like, what do you push the pedals with? Her teeth?
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She does have a van.
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Yeah.
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She drove me all the way to the bathroom. It's pretty fast.
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The dedications to his mom and dad. Let's see. The hurricane dome. It's all about the.
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Read it with an accent.
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In fact, December of 2006, I was privileged to witness the rise of a real up and comer, or so I thought. I was six months into comedy and at home visiting my family for Christmas break, I decided to attend my first open mic at the Laugh House in Philadelphia. The club is no longer there, but had given birth to many Philly comedians, including Kevin Hart. Thank you.
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Thank you. Flip to another one. Just randomly go to something else.
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Flip somewhere else. Let's go. Let's find it. Is there a picture of me getting yanked off stage? In the middle here in the picture section. Jessica Kierson. Okay. Some fireworks. See? Looks like everybody's staying on stage.
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It's a very short book, huh? Very short.
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It's a bathroom read.
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It was a mad couple of months trying to find a new location. Finally, mid October, I settled on the temporary home of Westover Golf Course, owned by Vince Piazza, brother of former Mets and Major League hall of Famer Mike Piazza. Anything to keep Soul Joel's going 20 minutes away from Royersford. It worked out perfectly for us and them because the golf course was a little use over the winter.
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It's not funny. The story of Soul Joel Beautiful. One Man's Journey. Can I show you how to turn the notifications off on your phone?
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They're off.
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Everything's off.
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That's not me. Who is that?
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I don't know. Who the fuck was that? You, Jacob.
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Not me.
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Let me find out. Christine, you're being quiet over there.
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What?
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What was me? What notification?
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Everybody heard a phone, a phone vibrate on the table. Was it you?
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I'm sorry.
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It was Bobby.
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It was me. Hang on one second. I. I'll tell you why. We went to break and Don was sending me Max's first football game.
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Yeah. Yeah. And he.
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Look, it's just. I love it, you know? You know, when you have a son, there is that time.
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It's so funny. Well, you need these pictures because next time Kim calls you out on not having any pictures of Max doing the athletics.
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I know. That's so funny because me and Don, when we do go to his games, we never know what to yell.
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Go, Max, go.
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Yeah, now I know what to yell because it's always me and Don going, do it.
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Go do stuff.
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Then people yell things like, dude, you gotta go across the line. And we're like, yeah, go across the line. We're yelling it on a wrong place. I think one time I said, one time, I yelled out. I yelled out, be you, Max.
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There you go.
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Don looked at me like, what good advice. I want him to be him.
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Yelled at one of Isabella's games. And I tried to take her back to a moment in time and get her mind in a place somewhere else where she was about to have the movie. The natural like moment in her life. And then she just whiffed two free throws and they lost. It wasn't for lack of me yelling out, today's her 23rd birthday, by the way.
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Happy birthday.
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Going to dinner after this.
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Lou just said your story is in the book.
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Oh, really?
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Lou just texted me and I just. As I shut my phone off, it came through.
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Oh, man. What do you think he takes that? What do you think he takes it?
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I don't know. Should I open my phone and say, what page?
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What page? Okay, let's see. Well, he's trying to move it, so let's see. What could have happened here?
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That was the day it all changed.
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A pandemic chapter.
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I think the whole story is pandemic. The whole thing have to be inside screens to outdoor dreams. No train, no gain. I mean, this is all. Welcome to the thunder, lightning, the snow and the. Yeah, it's just so. It's before chapter Seven where he leaves Royersford. Okay, so it's somewhere in the first six chapters.
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Go Birds, Hawkeyes and Free Palestine.
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Yes, Stand by it. Stand by it. Go Birds, Fuck Palestine. Oh, Lewis. Oh, I made a picture in the book, too. It's us with Lou. Oh, those were good days, huh?
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Be funny if he blamed you for the incident.
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I hope to God that's what it is.
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I hope so, too.
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That would be fantastic.
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He did scoot his chair closer.
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He did?
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Yeah, he's gonna be. You moved your thing close to the stage. That's a problem. I couldn't guess where this is.
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Let me look.
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No, I don't want her to look.
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Why?
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The Soul behind Joel. That's the name of the book.
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You gotta be corny when you write a book. I can't wait to read Lewis's book.
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Oh, yeah. I wanna know. I wanna sound like a jerk off.
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Do you think we're in it?
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I'm for sure in it. Yeah, of course.
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You guys better be in it.
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I think I'm in it.
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Would you be so upset if you weren't mentioned in Lewis's book at all?
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I bet. I bet we're not.
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Unless it's all childhood, right? Which I'm actually not 100% sure how far it goes.
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They might just go to New York.
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Well, I don't know. Something about Jim Brewer. I texted somewhere.
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He's not texting me back.
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Here we go. Here we go. Found it.
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Okay, shut my phone up.
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Let's see here. Blah, blah, blah. Paper covered exam. The next day was lucky 14. Lucky for us, anyway. Read it in the Big J Okerson.
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Incident with the accident.
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Big J wasn't even supposed to be on the show. Dave Smith had been scheduled with Louis J. Gomez on the Monday Legion of Skanks podcast. Prior they announced Dave had a death in the family and would not be joining Lewis at Soul. Joel's Lies.
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It was Palestinians.
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There was no death in the family for sure.
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It was Palestinian children.
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Louis. I think Dave forgot something like that. Dave forgot and then he usually couldn't go. He booked something out and Louis was gonna do it by himself. And then he asked me if I would do it. And I was like, you know what? I got a car. I don't fucking. I'm not doing anything after the show that day. I'll come down, I'll do it with you.
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You're a good friend.
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They announced that the other third of Los Big J would replace him. The show was hosted by James Mad Dog.
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Now a bold story about James Back to the Big J show.
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Zak Amico featured and Kunal Aurora was granted a guest spot. Stage time was scarce, another side effect of the pandemic, but Jay was more than happy to give a spot to Kunal during the show. The stepdaughter of a regular patron, a woman who had bought the VIP Summerfest pass to every show, started drunkenly heckling and shouting out while the comedians were performing.
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At one point, Lewis was on stage.
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Talking about the ongoing Los Presidential election. Louis, Big J and Dave Smith from the Legion of Skanks along with Ari Shafir were running a bit to determine who the best was to lead the group of unruly comics. The girl yells out, fuck this place. Fuck Trump. Everyone's racist. Lewis wasn't talking about Democrats or Republicans. He was talking about comedians. Most comedians don't discuss politics unless they have a specific following. They this lovely gal had been a distraction the entire show. Working comedians are familiar with this type of behavior and know how to deal with it, usually in a funny way. Big J is no exception. I told him while Louis was still.
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On stage that I wanted to remove her.
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He maintained that he needed her and would let me know if it became a problem. Jay is a master of crowd work. I had no worries. Jay was doing his thing. Killer crowd work, including interacting with this girl. He had been talking to and about her for five minutes at least until she finally realized in barely coherent slurred who me? That kind of self awareness. She had none. The family starts to escort the daughter out. The crowd starts going nuts and applauding. The brother had stayed behind. I start to walk with the mom and stepdaughter to let everyone know I'm handling it. While we were walking out, there were a few minutes of uncalled for interaction from her brother towards Jay and the crowd. The brother goes to confront Big J, who's about a football field away from where I was. I started to run as fast as I could, but it wasn't fast enough. Before I knew it, I'm witnessing him grab Jay by the ankle, pull him off his stool and onto the ground. It was Jerry Springer esque. A video that captured those split seconds shows Jay grabbing, getting grabbed and Louis, the self proclaimed Puerto Rican rattlesnake who was behind Jay during all of this, springing into action. Because the video is so grainy it almost looks like Louis was the second attacker on the Sandy Knoll, but he was in fact lightning quick to defend his friend. The fans started flocking the J, Louis and the Brother. Everyone wrestling with this guy. The whole melee happened about two minutes from when Jay was about to wrap up the show. Seeing what was happening, I ran over like an NFL referee, just moving guys off the pile to get to the ball. I got to the bottom of the mound to find out one of the patrons had pepper sprayed the dad and the brother. The dad got up and kept repeating, not again, not again. And all I can think was, this has happened before.
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Listen to me.
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You should.
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You should do the audiobook for them.
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This, at least that chapter.
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It should have that music in the background and you doing it in that accent.
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It's a.
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It's an 80% okay told retelling.
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What's he missing?
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I mean, he left like the. I mean, the way. Why she got irate. Why she got irate? I mean, I was. I mean, she was a mortal. She was getting dunked on. I mean, I did the whole joke on dog belly is the interaction we had back and forth. I forget like what she said. Yeah, she said she got. She said she was pregnant, then she said she got by a black guy, then said she got an abortion. She kept calling everybody racist.
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And what'd you say?
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I was like, for being. For calling everyone racist. You're the only person here who confessed to murdering a black person. And that sent her into a tizzy.
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No, I mean, she was like a tea kettle.
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She screamed, she looked up.
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It was wild.
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And then she started walking. And then they started walking off and the brothers are coming up. And I had everything. I was like, literally, I was like, I was like, ooh, I'm gonna. For the first time, I'm gonna get to bash someone's forehead in with a mic stand. And then by the time I'm going, ooh, or maybe I should just.
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Hey.
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Too close to the edge. Didn't see that coming.
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I have to tell you, I was.
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Just looking on ebay, where I go.
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For all kinds of things I love. And there it was.
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That hologram trading card. One of the rarest. The last one I needed for my set. Shiny like the designer handbag of my dreams. One of a kind.
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Ebay had it.
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And now everyone's asking, ooh, where'd you.
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Get your windshield wipers? Ebay has all the parts that fit my car. No more annoying, just beautiful.
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Millions of finds, each with a story.
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EBay, things people love.
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That line is so, so up.
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Yeah, I mean, she walked into it.
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It is a up.
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She wrote the joker. She wrote the joke herself.
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Yeah, but it's so.
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I just said it.
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Racist. You're the only one who then killed.
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A black person to admit who confessed to killing a black person.
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Wow, that's a vicious line.
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God damn it made her upset. But she was a problem the whole show. And I don't recall him again. I don't want to, like, ever put, like, false claim. I don't recall him being like, I want to kick her out. I don't recall that being.
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I'm sure there's probably a conversation, but it's just where they presented it. Like, you were like, I need her. I need her to, like, don't kick her out.
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I'll deal with her. Yeah, I need her. I definitely don't need it. But I was just like, why not? You know? I mean, I'm sure. I'm sure if he was like, do you want me to kick her out? I would agree that I probably didn't say, you have to kick her out here. Like, yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm sure. I was like, I mean, I could fuck. Well, you know, we'll see. Or maybe I was like, what I usually say about something like that is, like, if she's that much of a problem with me, like, she'll probably leave by the time, kind of what happened. Yeah, I'm sure she the brother.
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I'm going to insult her so bad, she's going to snap kind of.
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But I always. That's the thing. All of them. I'm always trying to be friends with them first, you know, I mean, I'm trying to, like, go like, hey, chill. We're all having a good time. Like, we're just busting balls and having it, you know, I mean, I do a lot of that. And so when they're still like, well, fuck you, and it's like, well, now everyone hates you because I tried to be, like, nice to you.
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Shane Gig. The lady yelled, bring out Shane. And he. The crowd turned on her. And then you kind of stuck up for a little bit, and then she said something back to you.
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She knows. She booed me. They were booing. And I go, don't boo. Or she's drunk. I go, let's listen. She might be. There's funny things that'll come out of her. And then she went, boo. You're booing me. I just tried to save you. Dumb cunt. I was taking your back. And then they booted her anyway. Dumb cunt is such a big jokerson takes a tumble. That's a great call for beige frequency. Put that out Nice.
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I'm not remembering this wrong. I don't think that we knew who the guy was because before the show he was handing out his business card because he was trying. He was just going up to being.
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An only fans manager. I'm an only fans manager, but just.
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Going up to random girls in the audience and saying, like, I manage.
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Or he gave a card. They docs. They doxed him.
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What a weird thing.
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I went on the. That was one of the only first like Instagram lives I ever did in my life. I went on that night, I was like, don't dox him or his family. It's done.
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We just forgot about Zoom Court.
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I know. I just want to do Zoom. Course we want to do it like with like filters, like, where me and Lewis were like cat. Like a cat and a dog. Or like we were gonna be like. It's like a year later. We were gonna be like, all still, like wrapped in like, you know, like broken arms. And. And we goes, I haven't slept since it happened. I have to be in this wheelchair. I steer at my face.
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Did it hurt when you got pulled off by your ankles?
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No, man. I lucked out, man. I really got like. You see those? Here's a video right here. The second foot gets down. Last second. So I don't come off. But he was going. Who flattened me? It was gonna be. If my head hit that stage, I'd have been.
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I didn't. Yeah, I was standing stage left. And so from my angle, it looked like there was no way that he wouldn't have hit the back of his head on the stage. Oh, I would have came down. So I was rushing over there thinking like he was knocked. His head was not.
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Did you. Because that guy's right there. Did you not see him get that close to you?
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I did it. Just grabbing my leg wasn't with the thing. I. No, no. I thought the guy was definitely coming to start some one. I thought security probably would jump in before it ever got to that. And then also I'm like, I have complete, like. I'm like, it's like a five foot high stage or something.
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You know, security was, to be fair, like they were escorting this girl out and the rest of the.
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He just broke off the group.
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And he broke off the group. So security was like occupied.
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So I mean, literally in my mind.
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A rapt just came around.
C
But I was like, in my mind I was going, oh, this guy's coming for a problem. And it might get to me. I'm not like, you know, that naive. And. But I was like, he's gonna either try to climb up the stage, which, if he starts doing that, I'm gonna fucking, like, hit him with the mic stand or something or kick him, and then I go. And if he's gonna try to come up the fucking ramp on the side, he's gonna walk. He'll never get past Louis. He'll never even get there. So it was just like every situation didn't seem like I was in a lot of danger. Never rash, never thinking he was gonna grab my ankles and pull me off. That was crazy.
F
It's such a great move on his part.
C
No shit.
F
You know what I mean? Like, I'm going to grab my. Grab this motherfucker's angle, my foot.
C
I mean, it was weird. The slow motion of my mind as it was happening. Going, like, is funny, like, thinking. I was like, yo, you have to get your. It's like I was. I was like, oh, I'm about to be unconscious. Like, I thought, because, like, I saw what was going to happen. And then, like, I just got my second foot, the stool. But it's so, like, split second.
E
And it's also. The stage remembers that shipping container.
F
That would have been the worst thing. Just the last thing you said was, you're the only person who killed a black baby. And then you wake up.
C
Yeah. I go, did it kill?
E
Did she scream?
C
Did the girl leave? Did the girl leave?
F
You're good, dude. You're good.
E
How is. I've never seen anything like that. I mean, it legitimately was like a tea kettle going off.
F
What?
E
It's like she broke and she just screamed in the heavens.
C
The logic was it blew her mind.
F
Looking up and screaming now, what were you doing, Christine?
C
Laughing at her.
E
When she. When it was happening, I was in the back, and I started walking around kind of like the side just to kind of. I mean, it's my dream that if.
F
He falls up, someone beats up Jay.
E
Jay. I'm gonna jump in and beat her up. And Jay's gonna be like, you're not a.
C
That's your dream.
E
It's my dream.
C
You had 7,000 opportunities to show you're not a pussy. You've never done it once.
E
There's no girls ever attacked you.
C
Attack me? What are you talking about? They've attacked the car.
E
Oh, he won't hit you, but I'll fuck you up.
C
They've attacked the car. How about that one girl who just, like, stopped in front of the car and gave the finger when we had a green Light. You were supposed to beat her up.
F
Yeah, she meant white girls.
C
Oh, yeah.
F
She's not gonna.
E
These are all white girls. I'm just this. No. Attacking you is different than being a cunt in the street.
C
Well, just so you know, you don't have to. If a girl's attacking me, I will just punch her. Like I'll punch a woman who's attacking me. I would never attack a woman, ever.
E
Whatever. I was just kind of creeping around and then it was really. What happened? So I'm creeping around watching the show and then there is being dealt with. The staff's handling it. Everything's going. And then that was just a very fast.
F
You realized your dream died. My dream died that you didn't get to get Jason.
C
You don't have my approval. And I live.
F
And then Jay got ripped off stage.
C
Yeah. But we hit play on the thing. You see that second foot? That was everything.
F
Oh, it looks like Lewis pushed you.
C
That's what it said. That's what he's read in the book.
F
Yeah. So he put. So he saved you?
E
He just jumped?
C
Well, no, he just jumped into the fight. I mean, no, he didn't. He didn't do anything with me. Like, I mean, he didn't save me. What saved me was getting that foot down. Lewis just jumped in to go beat up the guy who just killed his friend.
F
He thinks probably that's Lewis's dream.
C
Yes. To kill the guy who killed his friend.
F
You both had a dream that day.
C
Yeah. I think it's funny that Lewis and Christine have a similar dream. For me to die for them. For. For me to die. But in their act of heroics, get revenge immediately.
F
Yeah. No, no, no.
C
And it's also immediate revenge they get. So you don't have to like have that lingering forever. You don't want your life to be dedicated to revenge. Wouldn't it be great if the person you can get revenge on you could do it in the moment. You're like, and now I'm free. It's everything's it. Immediate justice and we move on.
F
It's such a funny thing though that a guy fucking just was like grabbed your ankle. It's like a little kid move. Like when your kids being an asshole, you just grab his ankle.
C
I didn't. I didn't factor it as a possibility. It happen. I wasn't even standing up yet. I'm like, I thought the guy's coming to jaw and whatever. And you're like, yeah, and. And then we'll see if he makes a Move of some sort. It just didn't even cross my mind. My feet are still. I'm not even feet on the ground yet. I still have the feet on the. The rungs of the. The stool.
F
Yeah.
C
How happy was he when having a ball. He just had. He just locked in on those anky.
F
He saw those juicy calves. He was like, I want them.
C
Those little tiny ankles with those sick ass calves.
E
You do have grabbable ankles.
F
You do have grabbable ankles.
C
Do have grabbable ankles, man.
F
Ah, you do. Nice juicy. It's like a drumstick.
C
You show my grabbable ankles. Yeah, go on, show them.
F
No, you do. Yeah, now. Okay. Oh my God. That is. But it looks like I know that Lewis is. Did Lewis push you?
C
He's. He's completely next to me. He's like a few feet next to me. It's just the angle.
E
He was like back stage and when the guy came up, Lewis started creeping up towards the front of the stage also.
C
Didn't think he had. He didn't think he had to react that quick because this wasn't the move. It was either going to talk and try to climb up the stage. It would have looked a little weird.
F
Yeah, because you gotta. You gotta roll up. I've done that before. You jump off stage, you have to get back on. You have to roll back on like a whale.
C
This wasn't a state. Yeah, you have to beat yourself.
F
Yeah, you have to beat yourself. It's the worst you beat. I did that at one of the Creeps with kids shows. I did this stupid bit where I ran into the crowd. It was awesome. And then I had to walk back and the stage was just. I couldn't jump up because I was too fat. I had to jump up, use my stomach as a hand to pull me up, to hold me and then roll.
C
Wait a second. Do you remember? What the fuck. It was a skank fest. One year in Vegas. Maybe the second year. Whatever. It was the day that my body like completely shut off.
E
Oh, the emergency massage. I think that was 2022.
C
It was me. It was my body. Like maybe it was the last day or something. My body shut off and I had to go into the room, whatever the room was. The movie theater room where they were doing Ari storytelling show. It was pretty early that show. And I remember the backstage area, it had like a set almost and there was like a backstage sort of on either side of it. Yeah, like you walk into from either side and the stage was like semi high. But you could definitely step up to it, but it's like, definitely a high step.
F
Yeah.
C
And my body. And I remember I put my foot up on that step and stepped up and the rest of my body up, and my body just kept going forward, and I couldn't stop until I just. While this show's going on, the room rocked.
A
I mean, I just barrel.
C
Everything I had. I go, the whole body's gone. Legs aren't working. And I just smashed into a wall.
E
Ah.
C
Oh, my legs shut off completely. No, I was just backstage. They're rushing me to Ari show. I just ate.
F
Now when you hit the ground, are you on top of this guy?
A
Yeah.
F
And now Lewis is on top of him.
C
No, Lewis is. Well, Lewis is doing stuff from a standing position. I. I have my hand. My fingers in the guy's cheek.
E
That's all happened.
C
No, I don't give a shit about this. What.
F
What are you saying?
C
When they were pulling me off from. No, we beat. This is well documented a long time ago. They're beating the out. We were. The audience came over and pulled me and Lewis off of them, and we're like, don't get in trouble. We'll do it.
F
That's great.
E
Well, that's what. When I.
C
That's what Christine probably got over there for. But when they pulled me off the guy, like. Because I, like, he was like, on his side.
F
Yeah.
C
At that point. And I was hitting them and Lewis was other. Hitting him with other stuff, parts of the body. And. And then I. When they pulled me off and though I just remember, like, my fingers were like, in his cheek, like, in his mouth, and I was like, yanking. They were like. I was like. I was. I couldn't believe. I. When I landed on him, I was like. For the second, you're like. I thought. I was like. I thought it was like Patrick Swayze. Like, I was blasted out of my body or something. And I'm like, this is not even. I'm floating. I couldn't believe. I was like, yo. Because I didn't even know. I'm like. I guess must have got the other foot down because, like, when he was going, I was like, I'm done.
F
Right?
C
I thought that was so. Yeah, I was like, I'm alive. And then I celebrated with wild, aggressive, fat kid punches.
E
When I got to the pile, and I felt like there was already an immediate crowd.
C
Well, luckily, souljaw referee was there to clear the pile and find out who had possession.
E
I just thought Jay was on top. And I was like, oh, thank God. Because I was almost I literally was.
F
You know, Jay's never on top. Sorry. It was right there.
C
I'm a power bottom. Everyone knows this.
F
You know, you're a sloppy bottom boy.
C
Everyone knows I'm a power bottom.
F
So. So when you came over, the crowd just started beating the. Out of this one guy.
C
Yeah. Yeah.
A
Wow.
C
And then not, like, immediately. Yeah. Cops are there pretty quick, too.
F
Wow. Did you go? Did. Was that the end of the show?
E
Yeah.
F
That would have been great if you went back up, sat back down.
E
That was crazy.
F
That was great. I didn't think he'd go from my angle.
C
Just like, the slimy thing of what he did was when it was all. When it came to pass, he. He asked me to come back, and I went back and I made nice money for a one nighter at his place again, because since I did it, since that happened, and that made some kind of news. Yeah, the place was selling out every week.
F
Yeah.
C
After that.
F
Because of you.
C
I mean, it sucks because, like, not because of my comedy necessarily or nothing. You're like, oh, this place. Like, something might pop off. You know what I mean? So it became Roadhouse. It just got the name. And it's also. It's like, I think more than anything else, people are going, like, there's a place doing comedy right now that's like this big and inside. So it was a good commercial for the kind of a cool thing he had going.
F
Yeah, it's not.
C
It's just when I came back, his take on it was like, hey, you know, worked out a little good for you, a little good for me. And I go, you're lucky I didn't sue you, dude. Like, it's like, that's crazy. Like, to be, like, so cavalier. And then when they asked me, it.
F
Would be great if he put that in the book. It worked out for him and me that.
C
And that. What I thought was. Was gay also was that he. They asked me Fox or something. Like fox, Philly, Philadelphia affiliate. Was like, would you do our morning show in Philly and come talk about what happened? And I went, no.
F
What would you. What did they want you to talk about?
C
Well, could I tell you why that, strangely, happened not long after Chris Rock got slapped on stage. So it became a thing of, like, people coming on stage and doing what they want to do. That's what it was. Kind of circle around. So they asked me to come down. I was like, like, no. And. And then the next morning, my cousin Vicky sends me a video of, like, the news in the morning. And Soul Joel There, like, you know, in a blazer, like. Yeah. You know, it's crazy that people just think they can come up now. And he's like, being like a. I'm like. He's just capitalized. The fact he capitalized off. It's so, like, worm. So it's like I said before, I don't even dislike him. He's like a wormy dude.
F
I've been great. If the lady was on news going, he said, I killed a black man.
C
He said, I killed. I said, not a black man. A black baby in your belly.
F
What a fucking crazy line.
C
Well, the whole thing was. She was making everything up. Yeah, that was the idea. So that's why, like, the.
F
Thank God Dave didn't show up, by the way.
A
Yeah.
C
Oh, shit.
F
Right? Jesus Christ. Her head would have exploded.
C
Everyone's racist, Dave.
E
Like, yes, her mom sold her. She goes, she's not pregnant.
C
Yeah, her mom was pregnant.
F
Not anymore.
E
That's what she said.
C
Well, that's the whole thing. So she goes. She said she had a black boyfriend. I made comment about that, which was just kind of funny, you know, whatever. Like. And then she was like, oh, yeah. She goes, I'm pregnant with a black baby. And then I made some joke about that. I'm like, okay, no. No one gives a fuck. I was like, okay. And then her mom goes, I'm sorry, everybody. She's being late. She's just drunk. She's just drunk and lying. She's not pregnant. And then I thought that was weird. Like a weird thing to lie about. I'm like, are you really not pregnant? And she goes, no, I'm not pregnant because I had an abortion.
F
She said it like that?
C
Yep. And I was like. It was all spooky. And when she said that. But I'm saying, she said it with that kind of, like, thing, like abortion. And then I just said, I go, well, for having such a problem with racism, you can you just confess to killing a black person? And it popped her. Yeah, her lid. Her stack blew. The logic was sound. She could poke no holes in it. All she could do was scream, for the heavens.
F
You made her realize that she's a racist.
C
Oh, my God. I killed a black person. The whole thing's a lie. She wasn't mad just believing her own lie.
F
She wasn't mad at you. She was mad at herself for killing a black person.
C
She almost got herself arrested.
A
Wow.
C
They did arrest the guy, the brother. I think these did one of those probably take him to the station, let him go things. But they Took the brother. The sister was trying to get arrested. The cop was like, what are you doing? And she was like coming like point her finger in her face like you. He's like, I don't have a problem with you, miss.
F
I hate that. I hate that.
C
And they were like, you want to get arrested too? And like she was. Her parents had a kind of. And then her. And then the other thing. I didn't like this actually I thought was the shittiest thing. Do you remember this? I always forget this fact sometimes.
F
Sorry guys.
C
But they. The fucking. The parents.
F
Yeah.
C
Reached out in some way and they're like fans and they were like a pug. I'm sorry. Our. Our son's a drunken loser and our daughter's a dumb twat and we shouldn't even have brought him to something like that. They're such idiots. And I'm like, fuck you guys too. You just bag on your kids like that. I'm like, raise your kids better. Don't bring them to place like that. But it's for you to try to like nuzzle up to me by going like yeah, my fucking kids are stupid idiot dumbasses. What's wrong with you?
E
Your kids and you're hanging out.
C
If you want to apologize and say the thing is sorry they were acting like that. He goes, I don't know what got in. You know some but just start going like they're stupid pieces of shit. I'm gonna. Will you come to Thanksgiving? I'll. I'll tell them to stay the home. I hate them. Isn't that kind of. Isn't that kind of gross too?
F
It is gross, but it's a weird part of. Of Pennsylvania.
C
You know what I mean, Royers?
F
Yeah, it's a weird. You know, there's a lot of racists out there. The clans out there.
C
There are.
F
Yeah, dude. Out there.
C
Soldiers.
E
Yeah.
F
In that area of Pennsylvania, I think.
C
Hey, let's go down to soldiers.
F
Yeah. Town. That town is definitely an old school town. It's. I hate when the people get in the cops faces, you know, and start screaming at. But now I love that the cops are actually using pepper spray. But they're using like the. The cop. Bear. Bear spray. Pepper spray. And you just see there was a girl the other day, she was screaming at the cop. Just you, you pig, you. And I mean like just being outrageously inappropriate and like you like. And the cop just went back up, back up. And she took one step too close and he just went and made her face orange.
A
My.
F
Just to see People become who they are very quickly. Like she went, oh my God, I can't see. Oh God.
C
I feel comfortable. I feel comfortable saying this too. The Royers for police are a bumbling group of. They were dumb as they didn't help. They wanted me to be like a problem in this so bad too. Like that it took many, many audience members coming over as they're kind of being shitty with me going like, he was on stage. The guy yanked him off stage.
F
But you know why they're doing that? They're doing that because if you're at.
C
Fault, they get to just go home.
F
They just go home.
C
Yep.
F
They do not. If you can say I'm gonna sue lazy. Yes. It's. It's paperwork.
C
And then they start. And then when they were like, finally, okay, like, clearly this guy is the problem here. The other guy.
F
Yeah.
C
Then it was like a lot of that kind of thing is like, why was it funny? Was the show even funnier? You know, kind of that thing, why don't you make us laugh here Kind of thing like, dude, suck dick and go away. Fucking town bumpkin fucks. Fucking Royers for Pennsylvania. Royers. Repeated the police. You don't need police. That's why they're all. Why wouldn't you be corrupt in a place there's nothing to do. Jay's raped prostitutes.
F
Jay's going to be at Soldiers in Royers for in December.
C
Me and Royersford.
F
No. Where are you going to be? Christine, roll up please.
C
Well, let me do you. You're already first.
F
Then you go. I mean you're first.
C
You do me, I'll do you.
F
I'll do you. You do me. Big J is going to be at the Funny Bone in Columbus this weekend, October 10th through the 11th. After that he's going to be in Washington D.C. pasadena, Austin, Tampa, New Orleans for Skank Fest. All the Tickets are at bigj comedy.com and his YouTube page/bigjokerson has his live show that he does once a week livestream. And also he has his they them up there but ch right now available double album them. They is available for pre order on vinyl and you get so many extras with this. Just go to 800 pound gorilla 800 pound gorilla media.com pages/big J.
C
Come on. They don't.
F
Jesus Christ.
E
We put it up on Big J comedy.
F
You gotta.
C
It's available on Big J Comedy.
E
Yeah, just go Big J. Yeah.
F
That is stupid. Why would they do that?
E
Yeah, just bigj comedy dot com. It's all the front page yeah.
F
Anyway, go there and you get. You should definitely get that one thing, the original art, and put it in if you have it.
C
Yeah, please. Art. I'll try to find. I'll see if I have it tonight. I'll let you know tomorrow if I have it. If I have it. We'll do something fun with it.
F
That'd be great.
C
Bobby Kelly's gonna be at the Comedy to Carlson in Rochester October 10th, 11th.
A
That's this weekend.
C
And then Port Charlotte, October 17th and 18th. That's Florida, right?
F
Yeah, it's in Florida. Yeah, it's Florida. Down, down the south on the west, port Charlotte.
C
That's October 17th and the 18th. After that, Tampa, Florida, Emmaus, Pennsylvania. And of course New Orleans. Also for Skang Fest. For tickets and all their tour dates, visit punch up.live,/robert kelly and go to Bobby's YouTube channel, YouTube.comobert Kelly Comedy. And you can catch him, of course, at the Fat Black Pussycat Lounge, the Comedy Cellar, 7pm every Tuesday night. Unless I want to hang with him, I hope. And make sure you check out our YouTube page, YouTube.com@thebonfireradio. I love that.
F
And on Thursday, we're gonna be wearing the Marcus King episode live from the Fishbowl.
C
Very fun.
F
It's awesome. So tune in for that. You guys are the best. I do. I tear up. You got dragged off the stage like a ham. Crackle, crackle.
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Episode: The Soul Behind Jay
Date: October 15, 2025
Host: SiriusXM Faction Talk Channel 103
In "The Soul Behind Jay," Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly dive into a memorable and infamous incident from Big Jay's comedy career—being physically dragged off stage by an audience member during a show at Soul Joel's comedy club. The episode revolves around their usual banter, social commentary, a playful debate about pop divas, and a deep (and darkly funny) breakdown of the onstage mishap. Their frank, hilarious dissection explores stand-up comedy hazards, crowd management, and the unpredictable nature of working the live circuit.
(01:28–07:30)
The episode kicks off post-ads with chat about the "Grammy salute to Cyndi Lauper" TV special.
Jay admits to his enduring crush on Lauper; Bobby teases about her appearance and eccentric outfits.
There's a playful, irreverent back-and-forth about aging pop stars and iconic songs.
Notable Quote [02:29]:
Jay (referring to "She Bop"):
“This is a song about female masturbation, dude. How exciting is that?”
The debate shifts from Lauper’s career to Kelly Clarkson’s place in pop culture:
(07:35–16:00)
Christina finds “Soul Behind Joel” (Soul Joel’s memoir) in the studio.
Crew reads aloud sections that cover Philadelphia comedy history, Soul Joel’s club’s pandemic era, and references to Jay’s fateful set.
Light teasing about being mentioned in fellow comedians’ books.
Notable Quote [13:31]:
Jay (on finding himself depicted):
“Oh, those were good days, huh?”
(16:00–35:00)
Reading from the book recounts the entire onstage altercation:
Notable Quotes:
The mechanics—they dissect how Jay barely avoided a head injury (“That second foot down was everything”) and the fast, bizarre escalation:
(24:09–42:01)
Jay explains, despite the drama, he always tries to de-escalate and "be friends" with troublemakers before flipping the crowd on them.
The club owner's perspective—profiting from notoriety and using the story for bookings.
Bobby and Jay joke about the “dream” of being able to heroically beat up an attacker if Jay were hurt.
Discussion of the aftermath:
Notable Quotes:
(40:19–44:47)
Banter about Pop Icons:
Jay and Bobby hilariously compare diva aging, outfits, and musical legacy (01:28–06:00).
Recounting the On-Stage Attack:
Jay relives, in vivid detail, how he was yanked from his stool and survived by getting his "second foot down" (23:35–28:00).
Jay: “If my head hit that stage, I’d have been—”
E: “I was like, oh my God, he was knocked.”
Morbid Comedy:
Jay’s savage retort to the heckler about racism and abortion triggers the incident:
“For calling everyone racist, you’re the only one who confessed to murdering a black person.” [19:22]
Backstage Club Realities:
Honest discussion about how violence and controversy can ironically help a club’s business:
“It sucks… not because of my comedy. You’re like, oh, this place… something might pop off.” [35:50]
Aftermath, Policing, and Weird Apologies:
The victim’s family shifts blame, police try to avoid paperwork, and Jay explains crowd justice:
“Royersford police… a bumbling group of… They were dumb as… they didn’t help.” [41:26]
| Timestamp | Segment | |---------------|----------------------------------------------------------| | 01:28 | Start: Cyndi Lauper tribute, pop icon banter | | 07:35 | Found: “Soul Behind Joel” book, reading about Jay | | 16:00 | Full breakdown: Jay’s stage assault at Soul Joel’s | | 18:44 | Jay’s retelling vs. the book’s version | | 24:09 | Handling hecklers, “be friends,” crowd psychology | | 27:18 | Play-by-play: how the ambush unfolded in seconds | | 30:09 | Bobby & Jay riff on Jay’s "grabbable ankles" | | 39:31 | The strange apology from attackers’ parents | | 41:26 | Police and town reactions, reflections on aftermath | | 43:15 | Comedy tour plugs, closing out |
This episode is a masterclass in comedians processing chaos and turning real-life calamity into shared legend. It offers a wild window into onstage dangers, the peculiarities of live audiences, and how notoriety turns to both profit and punchline. The raw banter, quick wit, and brutal honesty make this a signature episode for fans of unfiltered, behind-the-scenes comedy talk.