Scotty is a Hottie, the OG 28 Summer-er & Jon’s Lisp heard around the world

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Podcast Summary: The Book Lisp with Jon Ryan & Sarah Colonna

Episode Title: Scotty is a Hottie, the OG 28 Summer-er & Jon’s Lisp heard around the world
Release Date: November 18, 2024
Hosts: Jon Ryan & Sarah Colonna
Book Discussed: 28 Summers by Ellen Hildebrand

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1. Welcome and Introduction [00:00 – 01:24]

The episode kicks off with the hosts, Sarah Colonna and Jon Ryan, warmly welcoming listeners to The Book Lisp. Sarah introduces the podcast as their weekly book club where they hilariously review a selected book each month. They mention their Patreon for exclusive video content and encourage listeners to join their Facebook group and follow them on Instagram for updates and additional content.

Notable Quote:

• Sarah Colonna [00:07]: “Welcome to the Book Lisp with John Ryan and Sarah Colonna.”

2. Deep Dive into 28 Summers [01:37 – 03:28]

The main focus of the episode is the discussion of 28 Summers by Ellen Hildebrand. Jon reveals he has read the book three times, each time forming a different opinion, setting the stage for an in-depth review in the upcoming episode. Sarah shares her appreciation for the book, highlighting how each chapter begins with the phrase, “What are we talking about this year?”, allowing them to reminisce and inject humor into their discussion.

Notable Quotes:

• Jon Ryan [01:37]: “I have a different opinion every time. So this is going to be very fun.”
• Sarah Colonna [01:37]: “We are still talking about moments from it that we like.”

3. Real-World Parallels: Bill Gates' Arrangement [03:28 – 05:17]

Jon brings up an intriguing real-world parallel from his research on Bill Gates’ unconventional vacation agreement with his ex-girlfriend, Ann Winblad. The arrangement mirrors themes from 28 Summers, raising questions about personal boundaries and relationships.

Notable Quotes:

• Jon Ryan [03:04]: “In a 1997 interview with Bill, Gates revealed he had an agreement with his wife, Melinda, permitting him to spend one long weekend a year with his ex-girlfriend at a beach house.”
• Sarah Colonna [04:32]: “I would just assume either Melinda Gates just didn't give a shit.”

4. Personal Anecdotes: Frankie Valli and Heart Health [05:17 – 19:12]

The conversation shifts to personal stories, with Jon sharing his admiration for Frankie Valli and a memorable incident where he almost met the legendary singer. Sarah recounts a touching moment when Jon experienced a heart issue during a vigorous workout, adding a layer of personal vulnerability to their banter.

Notable Quotes:

• Jon Ryan [08:00]: “Frankie Valley was coming to Seattle when I was playing with the Seahawks... Frankie Valley said, 'I'm 84 years old. I've already met everyone I ever needed to meet.'”
• Sarah Colonna [17:26]: “I texted you and saw your heart was racing, and I was freaking out thinking it was the end.”

5. Time Travel Hypotheticals and Inventions [09:36 – 14:03]

Jon and Sarah engage in a playful discussion about what they would invent if they could travel back in time. Jon contemplates the invention of smaller computers leading to devices like the iPad, while Sarah whimsically suggests making estrogen patches more fun with creative stickers.

Notable Quotes:

• Jon Ryan [09:36]: “I don't know, just make computers smaller and sell them for people's home use.”
• Sarah Colonna [13:12]: “Maybe I need to talk to someone about making estrogen patches little fun stickers.”

6. Nostalgia and Pop Culture References [14:03 – 20:09]

The hosts reminisce about iconic moments from the late '90s and early 2000s, touching on topics like Monica Lewinsky, the invention and perception of the elliptical machine, and the enduring popularity of the song “Who Let the Dogs Out” in sports venues. They also share personal connections to events such as the release of Survivor and Jon’s unique experience at the Super Bowl.

Notable Quotes:

• Sarah Colonna [14:05]: “If I could go back in time, I would invent the Peloton.”
• Jon Ryan [22:23]: “John Ryan, University of Regina... It broke the Internet.”

7. Character Analysis and Book Themes [28:09 – 37:20]

Delving deeper into 28 Summers, Jon and Sarah analyze key characters such as Mallory, Ursula, and Jake. They express frustration with Ursula’s lack of empathy and Mallory’s perceived selfishness, while Jon offers theories on character motivations and the book’s overarching themes of career versus personal relationships.

Notable Quotes:

• Sarah Colonna [31:00]: “There is a point where I start to feel a little bit of sympathy for her.”
• Jon Ryan [32:26]: “I think this is actually the More is the woman empowerment book. Mallory's calling the shots.”

8. Final Thoughts and Upcoming Plans [37:20 – 41:27]

As the episode wraps up, Jon and Sarah tease their upcoming full review of 28 Summers, promising to explore their theories and in-depth analyses. They announce December’s book pick, On a Quiet Street by Seraphina Nova Glass, a psychological thriller perfect for the holiday season. Additionally, they remind listeners to join their Patreon for exclusive content and encourage engagement through Instagram.

Notable Quotes:

• Jon Ryan [40:59]: “I have a lot stored up in my head to get going.”
• Sarah Colonna [41:19]: “That's a good holiday book, very Psychological thrillers on a quiet street.”

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Key Takeaways:

• Engaging Banter: The hosts’ chemistry and humorous interactions make the discussion lively and entertaining.
• In-Depth Book Analysis: They provide thoughtful insights into 28 Summers, examining character motivations and thematic elements.
• Personal Touches: Sharing personal stories and experiences adds depth and relatability to the conversation.
• Upcoming Content: Excitement builds for the next episode’s full review and future book selections, keeping listeners engaged and anticipating more content.

Additional Information:

For exclusive video content and more behind-the-scenes fun, listeners are encouraged to join the hosts' Patreon [Patreon Link]. Follow The Book Lisp on Instagram [Instagram Link] and join their Facebook group to connect with other listeners and stay updated on the latest episodes.

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End of Summary

Transcript

[Sarah Colonna]

Hi, I'm Sarah Colonna.

[John Ryan]

And I'm John Ryan.

[Sarah Colonna]

And you're listening to the Book List. The Book List.

[John Ryan]

The Book Lisp.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, that's right. You're listening to the Book Lisp. Welcome to the Book Lisp with John Ryan and Sarah Colonna. You are listening to episode three. We are. We've really committed cooking. We're really. And you look so excited. I feel like you might be hiding your face behind your microphone a little bit.

[John Ryan]

That's fine.

[Sarah Colonna]

You think that's fine. Okay. Is he hiding his face behind his microphone a little bit? He was. Okay, there we go. People want to see it. If you're watching this, where you can we watch. We have the videos available on our Patreon. It's $5 a month. You can watch the video of the podcast. And we do a bunch of fun, silly, silly stuff during the week where it's just like personal videos that we post and. And of course, we are having a Facebook group. The listeners. Keep an eye on our Instagram for the link. It's probably already up by the time you're listening to this, but I just have to make sure so our Instagram at the Book list will have the links to everything you need and everything you want. How you doing, John?

[John Ryan]

Doing great. Doing really good. We're going without wine this episode.

[Sarah Colonna]

We are going at Without Wine this episode. Well, I mean, is it off brands a little bit.

[John Ryan]

We're gonna make it through. It's only 45 minutes.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, it's just that it's the middle of the day and sometimes if we. Because we're gonna. Sometimes we have to do a couple episodes in a row.

[John Ryan]

And I always say, though it's 11am somewhere.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, we are here with the third episode still talking about 28 Summers by Ellen Hildebrand, which I really do enjoy this book.

[John Ryan]

Yes, it's been good. I've kind of read it three times now. I have a different opinion every time. So this is going to be very fun. Our next episode, when we really recap the whole book, because I have a different attitude towards it. The third time that did my red.

[Sarah Colonna]

The first time, Is it okay if some of us just read it once?

[John Ryan]

Yeah, I think that's what normal people would do in this case, crazy people like me.

[Sarah Colonna]

I know. I heard you were going around this morning before we were recording, and I heard you listening to it on your audible to catch back up.

[John Ryan]

I think I'm used to, like, watching game film and see if you can never watch enough. That's how I feel about this now.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay. Okay.

[John Ryan]

You never be too prepared.

[Sarah Colonna]

I just read it once and then hope for the best.

[John Ryan]

That's fair.

[Sarah Colonna]

But this is. It's a really good book. We're going to do the full review of it next week, but of course, we're still talking about moments from it that we like. The thing that we did last week where we were discussing how one of our favorite things about this book is how she starts each chapter of the summer by saying, what are we talking about this year? So we can have some fun with some of those. They give you a little throwback.

[John Ryan]

Also, though, when I was doing my research, I found out something, because this whole book is about same time next year, same place next year. So I found out that Bill Gates had this set up with his ex girlfriend.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, the same setup. Like, the same. Same time next year?

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

What are you talking about?

[John Ryan]

Well, he just broke up with Melinda. Right.

[Sarah Colonna]

Is that his wife?

[John Ryan]

Yeah. And it came out that he had this setup. Let me read it to you. In a 1997 interview with Bill, Gates recently resurfaced, in which he revealed he had an agreement with his wife, Melinda, permitting him to spend one long weekend a year with his ex girlfriend at a beach house.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, my God.

[John Ryan]

From the start of the.

[Sarah Colonna]

Was it Ellen Hildebrand?

[John Ryan]

From the start of their marriage, Gates and Melinda. Gates had. Gates had Melinda's blessing to continue an annual vacation with his ex girlfriend, Ann Winblad. This arrangement is one many people would find unconventional and not acceptable.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, true.

[John Ryan]

They go on to say the friendship didn't survive Bill's marriage to Melinda, didn't just survive Bill's marriage to Melinda. It was woven into their marriage through a unique agreement on these vacations. They went dune bugging. Oh, that's what they call it. And had in depth.

[Sarah Colonna]

I feel like when they say they went dune bugging, they actually went dune bugging.

[John Ryan]

And they see. Yeah, they had biotechnology discussions and deep discussions.

[Sarah Colonna]

This is the worst affair I've ever heard in my entire life.

[John Ryan]

It was a mental. Sort of a mental retreat rather than a romantic escapade. Okay, then if I'm Melinda, I'm like, then why do you have to go to a beachside cottage? And why can't I come if it's not romantic?

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, the reason has to be beachside is you can't dune buggy in the streets. I don't think any. And so you have to go to, like, a sand place for that. Right?

[John Ryan]

Going, what if I was like, hey, babe, I'm going this weekend to go duden bugging with my ex girlfriend. I would you stay here?

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. I would think that your concussions had gotten the best of you for sure. And that is a. So. But it was obviously a romantic. It was a romantic relationship.

[John Ryan]

It says here sort of a mental retreat rather than a. A romantic escapade. I mean, it's with an ex girlfriend that he saw one weekend exactly like this story. A lot of like our story. There's no way that he's meeting up with an ex girlfriend in a beach house one weekend of the year and not something's going down. Because if so, then why would you just bring your. Your significant others with you?

[Sarah Colonna]

Right. I would just assume either Melinda Gates just didn't give a shit. Like Truly, she's like, please just go bang somebody else and get out of my face. Or they. Yeah. I mean, that's the only thing I can think of. There is no. Or it has to be that. You just have to not care.

[John Ryan]

Keep that wrinkled up dick away from me for three days.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. Yeah, that's. That's what it sounds like. Because I don't, I can't imagine condoning anything like that.

[John Ryan]

Yeah. I just found it interesting that this is like real. That real people in our world do this.

[Sarah Colonna]

I think it's like a weird rich people thing.

[John Ryan]

Fair enough, baby.

[Sarah Colonna]

I mean, I don't know. I don't. I just can't imagine. But I do get to. I get to go to long weekends with my friends. The girlfriends.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

And if they ever invite their. If the husbands are ever invited, you're invited. Yeah, that's it.

[John Ryan]

I think when we have guys weekends, it's not really we have guys. Most guys weekends happen because they don't what the women don't want to do what the guys are doing. So once a year we have a guys I'm seeing quotations guys weekend where we go to spring training. You love baseball so you always come along.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, I do. I do go on your guys weekends. I'm sure the guys love baseball.

[John Ryan]

So she comes along too. It's not like a. You know, we don't beat on our chest and run around eating raw steak and strippers hanging from the ceiling.

[Sarah Colonna]

You are. Yeah. You are very like the antithesis of a person that would have a guy's weekend. So it's not anything I ever have to worry about because. What. Remember when you went to Vegas and it was somebody's bachelor party? Right. You went to Vegas and everybody was going out and everyone was going to the clubs. And you kept going to see Frankie Valli.

[John Ryan]

It was. It was a weekend to go watch March Madness basketball, like, on tv, to gamble on it. And you're like, what do you do? I'm like, I just like. I mean, go like we're in our 30s going to a club. Those clubs aren't meant for guys in their 30s or any human being in their 30s. They're awful. Yeah, I'll just. Okay, I'm just gonna go over here and I'll just go and watch Frankie Valley.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. And you saw, like, the Four Seasons show or something, right?

[John Ryan]

Whatever. What was it called? Jersey Boys.

[Sarah Colonna]

Jersey Boys, yeah.

[John Ryan]

I've seen it seven times. I've seen it seven times, and it gets better every time.

[Sarah Colonna]

It.

[John Ryan]

I stand by that.

[Sarah Colonna]

Also a thing that I've only seen one time.

[John Ryan]

And try to set up a bachelor party where you all go and watch Jersey Boys. And if you get married to a woman, it just doesn't work.

[Sarah Colonna]

I feel like even most gay men would draw the line at the seventh, probably seventh viewing of Jersey Boys for their bachelor party. You are. Yeah, you. You write, you like your shows, you love Frankie Valley. Do you want to tell the people about the time you met Frankie Valley? Just because.

[John Ryan]

I'll tell you the time, but I didn't meet Frankie Valley.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right.

[John Ryan]

So Frankie Valley was coming to Seattle when I was playing with the Seahawks. He was playing at a Winery, Chateau St. Michelle Winery. And my friend was one of the people that helped to put the whole thing on. She worked there, put my law on, and she knew that I was a huge Frankie Valley fan. I was going to the show. So before the show, in the afternoon, she went to Frankie Valley, went to. To Frankie Valley and said, I have a friend plays for the Seahawks. Huge fan. He'd love to meet you. Before the show, Frankie Valley said, I'm 84 years old. I've already met everyone I ever needed to meet. And I said. When she told me that, I was like, that is awesome. That that's a better story than had I got to meet Frank. I love Frankie Valley. But that was a better story.

[Sarah Colonna]

Like, your feelings were not hurt at all. You just said, you know what? That's fine.

[John Ryan]

It was better that way. And it was like, Frankie Valley was our first song at our wedding. Like, I love Frankie Valli.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yes.

[John Ryan]

He lives not too far from here.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, really? Well, maybe we could swing by and.

[John Ryan]

See him sometime when his windows are open.

[Sarah Colonna]

See if he wants. See if he wants to go for a dune buggy ride. Or something.

[John Ryan]

Okay, second topic that I want to talk about is if you went back in time. I got this from when I watch Back to the Future. I'm like, if I go back in time, like, what would be like my make it rich thing? And then I know that like, Tyson Gillies has a joke about this and he stole it from me, even though I never talked to whatever before took it out of my brain. And the whole thing is like, if I went back time to be like, iPads guys, and they'd be like, what? And like, they're cool. And they'd be like. And I'd be like, I don't know, just make an iPad. Like, I wouldn't have. I wouldn't have any information for them. I would just be like, make computers smaller and sell them for people's home and use.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right.

[John Ryan]

I don't know how to do that. But in this book, going back to 2000, Frey starts a coffee company in Seattle in 2000.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right.

[John Ryan]

You know, it's all coming around, babe. Some I was thinking, I was like, well, if I went back in time, starting a coffee company in Seattle, like the mid to late 90s, early 2000s, would have been a great entrepreneurial move.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right. Because that, I mean, is that before Starbucks? I don't know.

[John Ryan]

I think they mentioned Starbucks. It was right after.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. Because Frey, the. The best friend, Coop's best friend, Mallory's brother's best friend, one of the first people you meet. Not sure how far you guys in are in the book right now. Probably getting close to the end, but you probably. At least you definitely know who Frey is. I won't give away one thing about Frey, just in case you haven't gotten to that part yet. But he is. He. Yeah. He starts a coffee company and becomes real rich. He gets his own private jet. At one point, they just casually mentioned that he flies to N. Tucket on it on a private jet. I'm like, that's not cheap.

[John Ryan]

You know what, how you get rich through it back in time.

[Sarah Colonna]

How I would.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

I mean, all I can think of is Romeo and Michelle and being like, I invented post it.

[John Ryan]

I think, like sports gambling, like Back to the Future, having that book.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right.

[John Ryan]

It can invent anything. I can just be like, yes, invent cell phones. They're really great. But I'd be like, I don't. I don't know the technology behind it.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, because before it was a thing. You wouldn't know it to be a thing. I mean, coffee was at least.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

A thing. And you Were probably like, oh, people in Seattle, it's rainy and kind of cold. They're kind of moody. They like their coffee. Good place to have it. I have an invention that I want to make now.

[John Ryan]

What?

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, okay. So have you ever. I'm assuming you never went to a tanning bed.

[John Ryan]

I did one time.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, yeah.

[John Ryan]

I didn't get tanned.

[Sarah Colonna]

I was gonna say. How did that go? I don't think. I think it was skin.

[John Ryan]

And we were going to Mexico in the middle of winter. I think my girlfriend times you shoot a tanning bed. Like, no, no, I'm gonna burn. She's like, no, no. Go for like, four minutes. And then you, like, build it up. I went for four minutes. I came the next day, and I was like a lobster.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh. I mean, that is the worst thing of. Someone told you to go.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Did she not like.

[John Ryan]

And now I have skin cancer, by the way, too.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yes.

[John Ryan]

Well, not anymore. It's gone, but.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. We don't know for sure that it was back to the tanning bed. It might have been from playing football outside for a long time, most likely.

[John Ryan]

But I'd rather blame an ex girlfriend for it.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, me too. But, yeah, he has. You're fine. Now, your skin cancer, they caught it in time. You get all your tests. Don't forget to get your skin checks, kid. Kids. Well, I used to get in tanning beds. Now, I'm sure that's not surprising in Arkansas. And I. I don't know. I would do them. I tan pretty easily, as you know. There's some Italian in there or something. Anyway, you would put. Girls would put these little stickers, I remember. And it would be like a bunny or who do you remember? Whose did you see?

[John Ryan]

It was always a thing that girls. Always was a Playboy bunny. That was the big. That's the thing they'd put to see how much you tan.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. And you saw some, apparently.

[John Ryan]

Oh, my God, are we doing this again?

[Sarah Colonna]

So, yeah, you would put those. So the other day when I got. So I got a spray tan from my stepsister's wedding, which was a couple weekends ago, and I was thinking, oh, wouldn't it be fun if I had a little sticker so I could see the difference? And then I looked down and I realized, oh, well, I do have an estrogen patch on.

[John Ryan]

Time's changing.

[Sarah Colonna]

You know, no matter how old you get, there's something new that we could do. So I think I need to talk to someone about making estrogen patches little. Make them little fun stickers.

[John Ryan]

Shapes of Playboy Bunny.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, a little playboy body. Estrogen patch, little heart, little rainbow. Whatever you want. Don't steal that idea, guys, because I think it's a good idea. And then I was like, who am I going to talk to my doctor? I mean, what is she going to say? She's gonna be like, I didn't. I don't. I just prescribe estrogen patches. I didn't.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, it's just like, here's a pair of scissors. Make yours whatever shape you want.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, maybe that's what I have to do is do something. But then you would be cutting out some of the. Anyway, I'm working on it, guys. So if you. For in the future, when someone reads one of my books, that seems like.

[John Ryan]

A real draft, rough draft of a plan, but it could be pretty good idea. It's not. It's not bad.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay. Sorry, it's no. Oh, iPad.

[John Ryan]

Well, tell me how if you didn't know an iPad existed, tell me how you'd make an iPad.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, you wouldn't. That's what I'm.

[John Ryan]

I'm agreeing with you that we wouldn't know how to do it.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right.

[John Ryan]

Okay. Estrogen patch woman.

[Sarah Colonna]

Maybe I need to go change mine real quick. Put me in a better mood. So you know how we were talking last week about some of the. Well, I brought this up already, but some of the little things that she reminds you of going into. So as I got further into the book, you know what they were. One thing that made me really brought me back was 98, she said. What are we talking about? 98? Monica Lewinsky.

[John Ryan]

Oh, yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Blue dress.

[John Ryan]

That's another person that kind of came back into the media cycle in the last few years when they released that show.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

American Story or whatever.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, right.

[John Ryan]

It was like an eight part, like drama, like reenactment type thing.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

It brought it right back up into the media again.

[Sarah Colonna]

I know she's. And she's so good about it. She can really hold her own. Just having to like, that's. I mean, she's made her own identity and, and what was the name of the show? American Crime Story. That's right. Yeah. That. It's a good show, but she's one of those people that always comes. It kind of always comes back up. Yeah, because there's a right. The Clintons have never really been out of the news cycle politically. So it's like, it's always coming back up. But she's just kind of like a full on badass now that just. But at the time.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, I Mean, she was so young, just like.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

Impressionable and just.

[Sarah Colonna]

But, you know, I'm from Arkansas, so Clinton's from Arkansas.

[John Ryan]

They saying this could have been you.

[Sarah Colonna]

Could have been me. No, I'm saying that I just was like. I just remember it was such a big story everywhere, obviously, but everyone in Arkansas was, you know, at any time, anytime during that period, just like you did. If I said I was from Arkansas. Oh, you're Mick Clinton. You ever been under a desk or whatever?

[John Ryan]

I was just implying it.

[Sarah Colonna]

No, I was just saying. I just meant because he's. He was a topic in Arkansas. Anyway, it doesn't matter. It also said something about the elliptical machine, and I can't figure out. She just said the elliptical. I looked. It was. It was invented before that, but that's.

[John Ryan]

When it was, like, real hot. In the, I guess, fitness world, the elliptical machine is not the greatest form of exercise.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay. Why not?

[John Ryan]

Just something that moves your legs for you, basically. It doesn't really do anything.

[Sarah Colonna]

No, you have to move. You have to move.

[John Ryan]

It's like. It's. It's. It's. It's in, like, the fitness community. It's, like, frowned upon.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, really?

[John Ryan]

Yeah, it's like. It's kind of like. Like if you want to really get a workout, get. Get on the bike or get on a treadmill.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, God. Hopefully we don't have any people trying to be an elliptical sponsor for us.

[John Ryan]

We don't want you.

[Sarah Colonna]

I like. I like the elliptical machine.

[John Ryan]

It's a good for your joints. But it's just. It's just. It's not the greatest.

[Sarah Colonna]

I mean, we don't have one. We have, like a full gym set up, so I would. I don't use it very often, but I like. It makes me feel like my legs did something when I do use one when we're out, like at a gym or something. Anyway, out of town, hotel. But now that you said. Now that we're talking about this, if I could go back in time, I would invent the Peloton, because. And I know that it goes up and down and people have different opinions of whether they like it, but I love it. And I. Maybe I would have. I don't know, but that's what I would invent.

[John Ryan]

We're a big Peloton family. We have all them.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. So if they want to be a sponsor, you guys can be a sponsor. We read on them.

[John Ryan]

We use them every day.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. So we're just pitching ourselves here to Peloton.

[John Ryan]

Last time I used the Rower. I almost became, like, Mr. Big Sex in the City.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, you did, actually. Is that what you were using? So wait, tell the. Tell everybody what you have. Your heart.

[John Ryan]

I have a little. Little heart problem. Very minor. I don't even know what it is. It's just. It's. Every once in a while, my heart will just take off and go beat to, like 250 beats a minute until I either pass out or it just quits with usually about 45 minutes to an hour.

[Sarah Colonna]

Not that your heart quits, but. No, no, no.

[John Ryan]

The thing passes, it passes, and it goes back down to normal. It's common, especially in my family. My sister had a surgery on it. My nephew had a surgery on it. Very, very minor surgery. But when. The last time I used the peloton rower, I had, like, a really intense workout. And then right after my heart did that thing, and I was, like, laying on the ground for, like, 45 minutes. I was just thinking of, like, sex incident. Like, this is how Big died. That's how I'm going.

[Sarah Colonna]

And you remember, I. So I was upstairs and John texted me and said, my heartbeat is going crazy. And so I saw the text and. But I didn't see it for probably, I don't know, 10 minutes after you sent it. So then I see it and I start yelling your name, and you're not answering. So then I totally think it's like, I'm like, I. I was already tearing up, like, running down the stairs thinking that you were, you know, that was it. And then it was. You just didn't hear me. And that's why you didn't answer is because you were outside. But anyway, we're gonna get that fixed, right?

[John Ryan]

Yeah. It's funny because it only happens about once every two to four years. So it's not like something happens all the time, Right?

[Sarah Colonna]

It only happened. The only other time it happened was when you had your. Your short stint with the Bills.

[John Ryan]

Yes. You know, did you see a couple weeks ago, Jim Harbaugh, the coach for the 49ers, he left the game because of that same thing.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, really?

[John Ryan]

He left the.

[Sarah Colonna]

Did they say he has the. The same name?

[John Ryan]

He was.

[Sarah Colonna]

I can't remember what it is.

[John Ryan]

It's called, like, an atrium flutter or something. I think it was just a different name for what I have.

[Sarah Colonna]

I have it written down so that if anyone ever asked me what you have when the paramedics come, I can tell them, but I can't remember it off the top of my head. But our doctor knows, because I Told her anyway. And then also, do you know what else was 98, which we kind of brought this up last week, was Mark McGuire. So it was his big year.

[John Ryan]

Oh, yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

And then also this will make you feel different. Something about Mary. Oh, something about Mary came out in 98.

[John Ryan]

Really?

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

26 years ago. Brett Favre was in that, too. Brett Favre camp.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yesterday, Brett Favre came up. It said 97. She said, Brett.

[John Ryan]

Oh, because I'm saying Brett Favre was in Something about Mary. He was at the end. They're like, even that Brett Favre guy loves Mary. He comes at the end.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, I didn't even remember that.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Didn't he steal a bunch of money from, like, a charity or something?

[John Ryan]

Allegedly.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay.

[John Ryan]

Mississippi State Welfare Department, I believe.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right. Yeah. So maybe he's. He's might. He might be frowned upon these days, but, yeah, he had a big year then. What are you looking at?

[John Ryan]

Just more on my list.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay, talk.

[John Ryan]

Well, I picked up in 2000 and this all. Some of these things, all she had to do is say one lyric and it takes you right back.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, yeah.

[John Ryan]

Who let the dogs out every once in a while, especially in sports venues. For some reason, 24 years later, that song will still come up in a lot of sports venues. It should go away.

[Sarah Colonna]

Do you remember who loved that song? Maybe he didn't do it around you. Jim Colonna, my father, may he rest in peace. He.

[John Ryan]

It's a real boomer song.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, he loved that song. And he would be. We would be. It would be during, like, a game. We'd be watching something. He'd be sitting at the bar with all his happy hour friends, and he. One of them would start it. One of them would say. And then the rest of them would start going, who? And I was like, oh, my God.

[John Ryan]

The biggest get me out of moment in the history of the world.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

It's a bunch of old white men in a bar in Arizona in Palm Desert, just singing that song on top of their lungs, thinking they're so cool.

[Sarah Colonna]

They loved it.

[John Ryan]

Oh, I love that story.

[Sarah Colonna]

So now I can't hear that song without thinking of it. So it actually, like, they used to give me the. I used to hate that song. But now when I hear it gives me fond memories of my dad. Really?

[John Ryan]

Well, then maybe it will for me, too, but it'll take me a bit.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, it also said that in 2000 was the first season of Survivor.

[John Ryan]

It's also the year I graduated from high school.

[Sarah Colonna]

What? Why? Don't worry. Why do you have to do this every time.

[John Ryan]

I never. I never graduated from college because I left college a year and a half early. I should graduate in 2004, 2005. I left a year and a half early to play pro football.

[Sarah Colonna]

How'd that work out?

[John Ryan]

It worked out pretty good for me. And then instead of giving me a degree, they gave me a doctorate degree. I mean, honorary, but still. I got a doctorate degree.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, that's right. We went back for that. I saw you. You and your mom both got one.

[John Ryan]

We were the first son, mother, combo to get an honorary doctorate degree at my old university.

[Sarah Colonna]

At the University of Regina. University of Regina. Do you remember when you were in the super bowl and they make you. You know how they have every player say their name and the college they're from?

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

So John Ryan said. John Ryan, University of Regina.

[John Ryan]

Here's the thing where this is like the week before, whatever, was it FOX or CBS or whoever was broadcasting the game comes to the facility, and one of the time we go in and we say, do all the different things they want us to do. One of them was you say your name in your school, right? So I said, john Ryan, University of Regina. That's too slow. I'm like, for a reason. For a reason. Speed Love. Okay. You're asking for it. John Ryan, University of Regina. University of Regina. And then when they did it on the super bowl, it just, like, it broke the Internet. Like, just. It was like. It's.

[Sarah Colonna]

It's the two most texts I've ever got about you playing. One was when you threw a touchdown pass, and one was everyone saying, did he just troll the entire. Like, the millions of people watching football and say, university of vagina? And I was like, no, he said, regina, where he's from. And you guys have a dirty mind.

[John Ryan]

I forgot about that. That was good. Well, first of all, I was like, it doesn't matter. They never introduced the punter anyways. But I guess for the super bowl, dude, the whole. The whole team. And so that was a. That was funny.

[Sarah Colonna]

It was funny. What else do you have on your list?

[John Ryan]

Okay, well, 2001. The only thing you can really talk about for all of 2001.

[Sarah Colonna]

Sorry, before we get to that, because it's Sad anyway. But 2000 was just. Because this is a little bit still current, probably fresh in some people's minds, because the Yankees beat The Mets in 2000, the Subway Series.

[John Ryan]

All right.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, I didn't know that. I. I mean, like, I knew that, but I didn't think about it, I guess Just because what. So if they would have played this year, was that going to be the first time since 2000 for, for, in.

[John Ryan]

In the World Series? Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right. Yeah. Meaning.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, that like the Mike Piaza, Roger Clemens probably series. That kind of sounds right. They always kind of had a beef.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh really? Yeah.

[John Ryan]

I remember one time like Pia, he had to like broke his bat. Clemens like picked up and threw it back at him like a piece of broken bat. They had like a real beef going on for a while. Roger Clemens was a real prick. He was. Roger Clemens son played for us. I owned a professional baseball team in Texas and his son played for us.

[Sarah Colonna]

In the Cleburne Railroad.

[John Ryan]

Yes. And his Roger Clemens would call the front office all the time. He goes, he just pay. When we pay the phone, he go, hey, it's Rocket. And then he just like spout off like everything that he wanted. Hey, it's Rocket.

[Sarah Colonna]

Rocket. I I as much as many times as I've heard of Rogers Clemens, I've never heard that that was his nickname.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Do you feel like he gave himself.

[John Ryan]

That he talked to about himself in third person and just called himself Rocket?

[Sarah Colonna]

I I It gives me the creeps. Bad enough when someone talks about themselves in third person, but when it's like also they get it's their nickname that they probably gave themselves.

[John Ryan]

And also you're calling. It's probably like a 20 year old or interns. Like I don't know who Rocket is.

[Sarah Colonna]

Sir, if, could you imagine if you call someone you're like, what's up? It's a ginger ninja. That would be so weird. Okay, so yes, 2001 was the only.

[John Ryan]

Thing ever not the only, the only thing we can talk about is the 9 11.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right.

[John Ryan]

I feel like the whole. We all know what happened on 9 11. The whole thing and that whole period of life, everything that happened was kind of like before 911 or after 9 11.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right.

[John Ryan]

And now I feel like now everything we talk about is before COVID or after Covid.

[Sarah Colonna]

That's true.

[John Ryan]

But I remember back then it was like pre. I watched them.

[Sarah Colonna]

Not that we're comparing.

[John Ryan]

No, no, no, no.

[Sarah Colonna]

But like that's it is like everyone's like, oh, ever since COVID Ever since COVID this, ever since COVID that.

[John Ryan]

Yeah. There's a. I watched this documentary one time called September 10, 2001 and it just, it talked about everything went on on September 10th. Just like how eerie that is when people have like no clue what's coming next. Oh yeah, yeah, it was very eerie movie.

[Sarah Colonna]

Remember The. What's the show? The musical that we saw Come From.

[John Ryan]

Come From Away.

[Sarah Colonna]

Come From Away. That's a good musical about, about the people that had to land in Newfoundland, Canada. Yeah.

[John Ryan]

Because they got like, they couldn't obviously land in New York. I couldn't land anywhere in the U.S. i think.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. And they didn't know why they were being diverted there. And then they find out and then everyone's trying to. And they actually. It was a true story how they actually stay in this really town that wasn't prepared for all these people that had thousands of people, thousands of people being stranded there. It's. That's a good musical, like, good story.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

I think it's like even now today, like a lot of us will still get together once a year type thing. Like there's like marriages that came out of that and like kids and. Yeah, it was a good musical and true story.

[Sarah Colonna]

We like, we like musicals in this family. Remember what was the one that we went to see? Oh, sorry, this is off. Very off topic, but dear Evan Hansen.

[John Ryan]

Oh God.

[Sarah Colonna]

And we went to see that and I was crying, so I was like, I was doing that thing where it's just, it's so. It's about to be loud. Like I was trying to hold back like a loud sob towards the end. And I look over and John's just like stone faced, just not.

[John Ryan]

I wasn't stone faced.

[Sarah Colonna]

You were not affected.

[John Ryan]

I enjoyed it and. But it, it didn't bring me to tears. It didn't affect me the same way that it affected you for whatever reason. So I, I was having a day maybe.

[Sarah Colonna]

I look, I look over to my left and this guy is basically having the same reaction I am. And his girlfriend, wife, friend, whatever it is on the other side of him is kind of doing the John thing where they're just sort of like, what is happening to her? And I almost, I started to reach over like to him. I was like about to touch him and comfort him and I think and you kind of pulled my hand. You're like, what are you doing? Like, that's a full on stranger. And I was like, oh, I'm so sorry. Like, what was like. I don't know what I was gonna do. Hold his hand, be like, we're again, we're going to be okay. But anyway, should have just let it go.

[John Ryan]

It would have been so awkward.

[Sarah Colonna]

I know. It would have been really awkward. I'm, I'm glad that you, you were just like, you just kind of tap me and you're like, I really think you should do. Think you should do that.

[John Ryan]

Anyway, I enjoyed that one.

[Sarah Colonna]

Go ahead.

[John Ryan]

2003 Martha Stewart Insider trading.

[Sarah Colonna]

Martha Stewart. I still don't really understand what she did, to be honest, because she went to prison. But she kind of got hosed. Right.

[John Ryan]

Got a stock tip from someone at a party, sold off all that stock or bottle that stock, whatever way it was. And then it was clear that she had got an insider tip from someone to, you know, make this money. But then I think that.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, but like, so it's not, it wasn't an advisor. It was, it was like someone that.

[John Ryan]

Someone who knew.

[Sarah Colonna]

Not supposed to. Okay.

[John Ryan]

Someone who knew information about a stock and what it was going to do the next day because he had inside information about the company, whether he works for the company, the president of the company or CEO, whatever it was. And I might be making some of this up because I don't totally remember.

[Sarah Colonna]

No, we're not a news.

[John Ryan]

And then she acted on this tip and she got caught. But I don't think she even went to jail for that. I think she went to jail for lying to the police about it.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay. Alex is nodding yes over there.

[John Ryan]

Making false statements. Yeah. Is the insider training. If she would have just been honest, I think she would have just got like a slap on the wrist. But because she lied about it.

[Sarah Colonna]

But didn't she go to like a.

[John Ryan]

Oh, like a real white collar.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, not jail jail. But I mean not that it was. Not that it obviously it was kind.

[John Ryan]

Of a white collar criminal jail. All women's facility.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right. It is so funny because you see, I mean, thinking about that versus I mean she's, you know, on the COVID of magazines, obviously. She's just like everyone's icon for just the fact that she's her age and just like a full on badass and friends with Snoop Dogg.

[John Ryan]

She actually. But she actually came out of that more popular than she went into it, I think.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right.

[John Ryan]

She's already huge. But. And also she's like almost like 84 years old now.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, she looks good. She looks amazing. She was like a swimsuit issue, right?

[John Ryan]

Yeah, Crazy.

[Sarah Colonna]

Speaking of swimsuits, just a little bit about the book real quick because we are, we're pretty deep in it at this point and we can get back to these in a second. But I. So Mallory is like this total beach girl, all these things. And obviously Ursula, her lover's wife, is a politician. Like complete opposites. Right. And I think they set it up. So this is. And I, we said this last week. But there's a little bit of you when you're reading it, you go, why can't they have. Why can't they just be together? Why did they have to do all this and lie? Why can't they just say, oh, we have so much in common. We love each other. We'll make it work from a distance, whatever. But you made a good point last week about how had another. Had a man maybe written this book. The Ursula's character being written the way she was might have been more of a thing. Whereas since a woman or a. And I hadn't really. I thought more about it after you said that, because then when I was kind of going back over the book, looking at it for the podcast, I really realized how much I dislike her.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

And then at the end. Well, because I don't want to give it. We'll talk about that on the. On their actual review next week. The full recap. But there is a point where I start to feel a little bit of sympathy for her. Not because of. Almost because you just. You just go, this is. She set herself up for this. Like, she said her. Not like asking for your husband to lie to you and all that. But I just mean, in a way, she's just like, blank. Jesus, put on these blinders to the world where it's like all one focus. And you kind of feel sorry for somebody like that. And so I do think she's written a little bit sympathetically in some ways.

[John Ryan]

She made it very clear early on that, like, her career is gonna be number one and her family and her husband's gonna be number two.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right. And I think a lot of people can relate to wanting to be driven and wanting to be successful and not wanting to be looked at as that. That means. That means you can't have any sympathy or you don't give a. But the problem is for. For her, what stands out is she doesn't seem to give a. About him. She doesn't. She doesn't seem to care about. We talked last week about how it never comes up about his sister. And now he's doing all these amazing. You know, he's working for the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation. Jake. Right. And then. And he. And he gets promoted within that. And he becomes. And so he's doing basically passionate work for this huge caring thing that he cares about. But they do. Which we'll get to in the review.

[John Ryan]

They get a lot of theories in the review, too.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, really? Yeah. I know. I know. We're not supposed to get. I know we're not supposed to talk too in. In deep about the book, but until we get to the review. But just a little bit. Yeah. So I felt like there was some. Some sympathy built in subtly for Ursula, especially then towards the end, which we'll get deeper into the exact ending, obviously next week.

[John Ryan]

There was some sympathy, but then she did something right near the end that kind of didn't wash it out for me, but it was. I was like, oh, no. It's very clear what her intentions are. Like, at the end, I felt like she almost like Kevin me. Like. Yeah. But still, my career is first.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. Okay. So one thing about the book that at this point, everyone's probably at least into and gets is that. So Jake is the one. It's the same time next year, but in that movie, they both had partners. Right. And so in this book, Jake has Ursula and Mallory's aware of it, and she's basically not fine with it, but she just is. She's like, this is my life. This is the person I see every Labor Day weekend. I'm not trying to. You never get the sense that she's trying to get him to maybe change that, to leave. Like, she doesn't even. She almost doesn't even seem to want him to.

[John Ryan]

I don't think so. I have a whole theory about this. I'll talk about next week. I have a whole theory about this and how my mind has changed, as I said over the reading it multiple times. Where. Oh, by the end, I'm like. Like, I think I saw. I read somewhere someone said it is so unfair. Jake loses nothing and Mallory loses everything.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. That's what gets annoying to me.

[John Ryan]

I don't think that at all.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay.

[John Ryan]

I actually think that he has more. I think this is actually the More is the woman empowerment book. Mallory's calling the shots. When you really go back over it, Mallory's calling the shots. And I'll talk about that more next week.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay.

[John Ryan]

When we really dig into it deep.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay. Interesting.

[John Ryan]

I think the more I read, the more I realized it's a woman teaser.

[Sarah Colonna]

Big teaser for next week. Okay. Because. Yeah, sometimes I don't see it that way. I will. I'll be interested to talk about that with you because I. Especially when she did start dating, which I'm sure a lot of you to now is Scott and started to hot.

[John Ryan]

You with a naughty body.

[Sarah Colonna]

Is that what someone called him?

[John Ryan]

I did.

[Sarah Colonna]

I was like, wait, is that. How did I miss that in the book? Oh, my God.

[John Ryan]

And read. You read the book. You didn't read my mind.

[Sarah Colonna]

I mean, you really are on Ellen Hilderbrand's fan club list, aren't you? Yeah. Are you? Have you ever posted that in, like, a Reddit thread about.

[John Ryan]

No, thank God. I just let it out to the people listening to this.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay, well, thank you. That was an exclusive. The Book Lisp nickname. You think if he calls up some office, he's going to be like, hey, what's up? It's Scotty. Too high with a naughty body.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, no problem. This is Rocket.

[Sarah Colonna]

I, I, that guy. There's no, there's no reason that she shouldn't be with him. Except, of course, that she's not in love with him. She loves him. She knows he's a good guy. That. I get that. I get that we're not supposed to just go, oh, I should be with this person just because he can offer me all these things. I'm not in love with them. But it just bums you out a little bit that he, that Jake doesn't. Jake didn't do that. Mallory did it. Mallory does. She's like, I'm never gonna commit to someone else. Like, like I am. Like he did with Ursula. That's why it feels unfair as these.

[John Ryan]

I get it. But he, yeah, no, I, I, I'll, I'm telling you, I'll give you more of my theories. And I think that that is the one guy that she dates in the book where you're like, oh, I could see, like, that's like, that JD guy seems like a bit of a douche.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

On vacation, he's all, like, odd to people. And then Bear is obviously still married. She doesn't know this till they break up with them.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right. There's always got to be someone you don't like in these books. For me, anyway, because I like to focus my, myself on, like, oh, if this was one of my Murdery books, this is who I hope would die. And in this one, that would be Leland. Yes, Leland. She's a little rough to take because she's so selfish. She's a selfish friend. It feels like Mallory has a lot of selfish people around her now. She overhears them in the book at one point when Leland starts dating that Fifi woman, which I can't. With someone named Fifi, but. Okay. And they, they are basic. She's kind of basically saying Mallory is just like a pushover and amenable to things, and so that's why they end up having a rocky relationship, is because she does finally sort of Put her foot down with how Leland treats her. But she is our. Our sort of focus of. Right where we can.

[John Ryan]

The person we get mad at, we get off her. But she tells us who she is. The very first chapter, 1993. They live above a French restaurant. And every night the waiter gives her duck confit to take home. And she sits there and eats it right in front of Mallory where she's eating her frigging peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Doesn't even share. Then you like you, right? For that first chapter, you're like, ah, you suck.

[Sarah Colonna]

That is a really specific thing for Alan Hildebrand to have written, by the way, that this. This is her roommate that gets all this free food from a beautiful restaurant.

[John Ryan]

Their feet.

[Sarah Colonna]

Duck feet. They're both broke. And she eats it and never offers her anything. And I cannot even, you know, much. You know how much food I stole from Kirby's Grill and Bakery in Arkansas to share with my roommates? Not stole. It was like, at the end of the night, they had this stuff called tamale dips. Best cheese dip you'll ever have in your life. And you could take home the rest because they didn't make a new batch. So if there was any left, you could put it in a big white Styrofoam container when those were in and you could take it home. And my roommates, I. I wouldn't come home, pop off the lid, and just eat it in front of them. I shared it.

[John Ryan]

I can't even imagine. Like, back then, you need food was good food. Was anything, everything.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

Never got it.

[Sarah Colonna]

When you're broke and you're just, like, sharing with. You have to. That's. Yeah, you're right. I forgot about that.

[John Ryan]

Yeah. I was like, off Leland.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

And they were friends since they were like kids.

[Sarah Colonna]

You know the other thing that I used to share with my roommates.

[John Ryan]

What?

[Sarah Colonna]

So my stepdad worked Tyson.

[John Ryan]

Oh. Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

So we had a. A Tyson food store where you could go get. You could just go for, like, an employee discount. You could get discount chicken Tyson black card, kind of. Yeah, yeah. It was like a sad. It was like a sad little store that it was just freezers and then you could just. And I used to get there just their chicken tenders and. But anyway, it was real cheap. It was like the employee store. And then I would. Anyway. Anyway, I'm No Leland is what I'm trying to say. I ate my discount chicken and I shared it with my friends.

[John Ryan]

You're a good friend. I am good friend, Leland Lot. And she gets worse as the book goes on. To be honest.

[Sarah Colonna]

You know, you, you, you brought up 2003. We were talking about Martha Stewart and I just saw a note for myself because you talked about how one word brings you back and it was the one that one thing that Ellen Hildebrand said at the beginning of 2003. What are we talking about? Shake it like a Polaroid picture.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Hey, yeah, yeah. That song that brings you back.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

And in 2004, what was it? Mr. Brightside.

[John Ryan]

Oh, yeah. It was a good song because she.

[Sarah Colonna]

Wrote it started out with the kiss. How to end up like this. And that always makes me think of Cameron Diaz because we just talked about something about Mary and I always think of Cameron Diaz when I think of Mr. Brightside because of Holiday, your favorite movie.

[John Ryan]

It's not my favorite movie, but it's top tenner, right? Top ten holiday movie.

[Sarah Colonna]

Top ten holiday.

[John Ryan]

Holiday movie. Jack Black.

[Sarah Colonna]

You know, since it's almost the holidays, you want to tell everyone else your.

[John Ryan]

Other Alfie, who's Elfie? What's his real name?

[Sarah Colonna]

What do you mean?

[John Ryan]

Well, a guy played him in the movie is called Elfie and then he's in the holiday plays her love interest.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, Elfie.

[John Ryan]

A L F I E. Is that it?

[Sarah Colonna]

Jude Law?

[John Ryan]

Yes.

[Sarah Colonna]

Was that his name in the movie?

[John Ryan]

No, Queen.

[Sarah Colonna]

I don't remember that being his name in the movie.

[John Ryan]

It was. He had did a movie prior to that called Elfie.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, I don't.

[John Ryan]

You know, like you're like, oh, that George Clooney guy. Oh, the guy from Fact of the Life. Like I can only remember people from one way.

[Sarah Colonna]

This is like playing that game. Connections on New York on the New York Times that we play every morning. But with you. Yeah, with your brain.

[John Ryan]

Welcome to be married to guy with brain injuries.

[Sarah Colonna]

Stop it in a lisp. Anyway, do you have anything else you want to talk about before we close out this episode? And remind everyone that next week is the full review. The full review and discussion.

[John Ryan]

Pretty excited. I have a lot stored up in my head to get going.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, you do because you've listened and read it over three or four times. The rest of us underachievers just probably read it once. But yeah, that's next week. And then if you are want to get ahead for December, it's On a Quiet street by Seraphina Nova Glass. That is my pick for December.

[John Ryan]

Looking forward to it. Holiday book.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, good holiday book, very Psychological thrillers on a quiet street. So yeah, that's it, right?

[John Ryan]

That's it. Can't wait for next week.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, that's gonna be. It's gonna be very fun to get fully into the book next week. And don't forget. Yeah. Follow us on. At the book list on Instagram. Join our Patreon, where you can see our video of every episode, along with a bunch of insider stuff that we'll post there. And. And of course, we'll listen to you. If there's other things you want to see on Patreon as we're building it, we will listen to you. Or we'll be like, cool idea and ignore it. We'll see. See you next week. The book list, the book lisp? The book list, the book lisp? The book lisp.