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It's about the scariest night of my life. This is Wisecrack, available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hold up. Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up. It's the Breakfast Club. Y' all finished or y' all done? Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. One of the most slept on Comedians of our generation, Donnell Rollins, come on. Round of applause for Donnell, one of the most slept on comedians of our generation, Donnell Rollins. Man, I agree. Donnell. What's up, Donnell? How you feeling, man? How you feeling? I'm feeling good. I feel like I just got this product, and it works wonders. It's supposed to remove smells good, negative energy. There's no negative energy here. I don't know. But it's a Palo Santo spray, and it works wonders for people to have. Well, how are you feeling, man? How's your son? I seen you on the river. I seen you really enjoying life, man. We appreciate that, man. My, it's horrible. Really? Yeah. Damn. And it's got even worse since you recommended a therapist for me to go see. Oh, yeah. You started going to. You started going to therapy. Yep. And he gave me horrible advice. What was the advice? It was a situation with me dealing with, like, baby mama drama. Okay. And I say, sometime I get to a point where I'm just frustrated. I don't know what to do. And then he said, what would, you know, what would you do if you was doing a comedy show, right. And you wasn't the audience wasn't engaged, whatever, what would you do? I said, well, I've had that situation where I had to fall back, regroup, speak a little slower, you know what I'm saying, and start all over. And he said, why don't you do that in your relationship? And I tried that, and it still didn't work. So thank you for giving me the worst therapist in the world today. What happened when you. I'm not saying it was bad. Huh? What happened when you tried it? Why didn't it work? It did. It just. It just didn't work. I think we. I don't know. It just didn't work. I saw you post your son's birthday, though, and it seemed like y' all are. But that's the son. That's not the mother of his child. Yeah. But you. Different relationships with her. So I figured all the co parenting stuff was going well. It is going well. It's a tough thing, I tell you, for anybody that's doing co parenting, it's tough. Especially when you. You still may have some emotions involved. Whatever. But I will say this. I dated this. Do you still have emotions? No. No. Come on. It's okay. Open us up. Can we have rules? Can we have rules of engagement? What do you mean? Like, you're gonna have to raise your hand. You're gonna have to do something different. All right? The way you Communicate. I don't really like it. And I was trying to explain. I dated this girl some years ago, right. And she got separated. She was separate. Her parents divorced when she was young. Right. And I also, I used to always see, you said raise his hand when he had a question. So he brings some emotions, but still. You gotta let me finish. You have to let me finish my sentence. Is this about the mother of your child or is this another one? It's about what I want it to be about. Okay, okay, okay. All right. Yes. I'm just asking. Guys. We all hairs together, guys. So I used to see the woman, I used to date, her parents was still together. They would do Thanksgiving, they would do dinners and do all this type of stuff. And I used to say they must be smashing. No way that they're that connected to each other. But as I got older or had this situation in my life, I was like, nah, they was just trying to give or create the best family situation as a co parent they could do. So that's what I do and I apply in my life and we do do a good job. But you respect. She let you. No. So you don't have emotions is what his question was. No, I don't. I mean, I don't. She still likes you? I don't think she still likes me, but I. What? So it's emotions? Cause you said it's emotions. Emotion involved. You said that. That's what you said. You said it can be. He said it can be hard when emotions. When emotions are still involved. Thank you. Thank you for the clarity, Jess. Well, no. So you still have emotions or she still has emotions? Nobody has emotion. We are raising a beaut young man. And I mean, this is one thing I say about my co parenting situation. A lot of times when mom and dad are not together like that, it's separate. It's like my mother, my father, you know what I'm saying? But my son, whenever he talks, he speaks on us as a family, as parents. It's not like I'm going to my mother's house or my father's house. So we're doing a good job with that. And Austin is a beautiful kid. Do you regret anything? Do you regret anything? Do you regret anything in that situation of a relationship? Yeah. Because you said before that you were the one that messed it up, correct? I didn't say I was the one to mess it up. I can see that though. We can see you being the one to mess it up. What were you saying? Okay, so when you go on Stage. Do you talk about, you know, your past relationship or your co parenting relationship with your son's mother on stage? Oh, yeah. Has she ever heard about that? Oh, yeah. Does she like it? Is that. No, it was. I'm gonna tell you. She knows me. My life is gonna go on stage. Right? Yeah, she understands that. But sometimes when people get in your head, you know what I'm saying? Like what she thought was a funny joke, one of her girlfriends called, uh, I don't believe he did that. And he. Gaslighting and all that. Stu. We had that situation. But, you know, I mean, you dated a comedian. That's what it's gonna be. My life is gonna be on stage, but I'm always. I never would do or say anything to put her in a bad light or anything. Cause at the end of the day, she gave me the biggest gift of my life, so I'm forever grateful for that. And I even said, you know, there's a certain. It's a certain amount for someone to have your kids, a certain amount of love. I think you're gonna always have. Yeah. Does that mean getting back together or rekindling anything? It doesn't, but it's a certain amount of love and respect. I always have the next question. Did you ever ask her, like, how it affects her when you go on stage and talk about it? Because that could bring trauma. Did you ever, like, I don't really give a fuck. No, I don't. I don't. I can't, man. If I. Because you said you care, so. If I care. But I don't care because that didn't come out of therapy. That was. That was disgusting. That was disgusting. Can you call on me, please? Yeah, go ahead. Do you think that calling yourself and my brother said the gays don't really like you the way you think they do? When you said that, you know, that's what he said when you said. He said, get over yourself when you said dating a narcissist. Speaking of not being able to get over yourself when you talk about dating a narcissist, do you think that's triggering for the mother of your child? I didn't say date. So you don't know who the narcissist is. You clearly. How you know that's me? Because of what you just said. Because she didn't sign up for that part of it. All right, what we're going to do is we're going to have to slow down. All right? There's just too much going on right now. You can't track. All right, we going to slow down. So either way it's triggering because whether or not she had to date you, who's the narcissist, or you're calling her a narcissist, that is gaslighting. It's up to this, up to the interpretation of who think. I don't know who the fuck the narcissist. I don't know what the fuck a narcissist really is. Every time I use it, it come up in my algorithms. The minute we argue about something, it's always. And the narcissist woman would do this. I don't know what the fuck a narcissist is. I just think it's a word that you use to sell books and make more money on the side. I feel bad for her because, you know, she didn't sign up for that part of it. She just sits there and tries to raise you. You're the goddamn narcissist and you just talk about what you are. The narcissist. Yes. Now, Donnell, you've always been raw and unfiltered. Has being too real ever cost you opportunities in this industry and in your personal life? Oh, great question has been no, because I am who I am. I don't act like I'm anybody else. And then with me is what you. What if you don't like the version of you? I don't really care about what people like. If I'm presenting myself the best way I can and I'm putting it out there like I want to, I can't care about people. Like, I can't let the. I can't let. I can't let people control what I'm doing on stage or off stage. Yes. Yeah. Do you think, you know. Why are you so quiet? I'm just. Yeah. Raise your hand. Oh, me? Yes. You know, I'm just in here observing. I just, you know, it's been a while since observing. Observing. What do you see? What do you see? What is observing from your perspective? Is it a B or a V? Observing from your perspective, what do you see? I think he's having a hard time tracking because, you know, as he came. Gets up there. Too many people. What does get. Wow. Get up. What does get up there mean? Up on the chair where you sat down at. Wow. Oh, okay. What question. Do you think that, you know, you lost your edge now that you change? You play pickleball on the river. You do white things. More pickleball gives. You do white shit. Nigga, you was riding bikes with biker shorts on, son. You did that for. That is true. That's a fair point. Fair point. It's the shoes that go into the thing you were doing that shit, son. You know, the shoes that you put inside the pedal thing, the bike shoes. I lost my edge a little bit. That's my asking. You did that three weeks and you put that in the garage. You got your photo app. You probably got a sponsorship for that. And then he was like, okay, on to the next. That's what you did, sir. But I don't lose no edge. What Edge? I don't lose no edge. No, I ain't lose no edge. You did. I saw you did the Chris Brown challenge. The. My friend Javante Roberts right there. That's my Tik Tok. That's right. That's my Tik Tok. That's my Tik Tok. I did it. You killed it. No, you did. You did better than I thought, man. You killed it. You ain't losing no edge. I. I was horrible. No, you weren't. I wasn't that bad. I wasn't that bad, but I wasn't. I mean, I thought it was fun. It was fun and it was like. It's a lot to. I mean, the only. I. I did that part right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did this part right here and I did. I did. I did that. The only part I had was I had that. I did that. I did that, and then I did this part right here, and then I did that, and then I did that, Then I did that, and your brother, son. And that was it. That was it. And then I came back, I did the robot. After that, I had to mix it up. We were thinking about you earlier, thinking about something that Charlemagne and I were talking about, that, you know, since we got to this age. It's very enjoyable. Have you ever thought about getting a bidet? No. Why? I just don't. No. That's not my thing. That's the gateway. The gateway to what? That's a gateway to clean booty. That's a gateway to your lifestyle. A clean booty. That's what it is. You wouldn't be who you are right now if you didn't. Your first boudet. First of all, there's nothing wrong with a boudet. I'm not here for all of that. Have you tried. Have you ever been gay? Have you ever been gay for a bidet? Oh, you have gifts. No, I'm sorry. This is unfortunate. I'm. It's not a thing. It's Not a. Just right here. It's because I've had. And there's nothing. No slight on the ladies in here, but I've had a history with these guys. Oh, okay. For so many years. And I. You came up here with gifts for them two people. We didn't earn our gifts yet. Can I ask you a question before I open this box? Can I ask you a question? See, I told you a question. What? That's your question. As a black comedian, how do you balance being funny with being a cultural truth teller? How do what? How do you balance being funny with being a cultural truth teller? As a black comedian, how do you balance. I don't understand that question. What do you mean? How do you balance this being funny and also being a cultural truth teller? I'm a truth teller that happens to inject humor with that. So I'm always gonna tell the truth. And if that truth happens to be funny, that's what it is. I don't really go out after looking for a joke. I just try to recreate life and situations that. That I come in contact with, and I put it on stage. So, okay, My, my, my people always say, daniel, that joke that you told, was that the truth? I don't lie on stage. Anything I say is really what happened in my life. So that's that. If that answers your question. Now, what is. Check out your. What is this? What is this? It's a gift. It's a. I was. Open the gift so we can see what y' all got. I have a question. Do you feel like you're a sensitive comedian? I'm jealous 1000%. Why is that? Because usually comedians should be able to take a joke and give a joke, but sometimes I feel like, oh, wow. Oh, wow. Oh. Oh, my God. Get a close up. Get a close up. Yo, get a close up. Look. Get a close up. He got me a pair of gay force ones. No, look, it's how. My greatest moments of with y'. All. That is. Sorry. Force ones. Now I understand why me and Jess don't have them. I do apologize. The pink shoelace? Yeah. My guy, A.O. evans out of Baltimore. Guy, artist out of Baltimore. Very thoughtful gift. Look at it. But no, it's not. It wasn't supposed to be thoughtful. It's supposed to be insulting. I just wanted. I wanted y to see the memories. Yeah. I'm going to wear them this weekend. These aren't even the same pictures on both of them. That's crazy. This is amazing. Donna, this is very thoughtful. Did I say Diddy? Thank you for thinking of me. I thought I saw Diddy on the other side of it. Let me see. Yeah. Diddy would be on his. Because he sat between Diddy's legs. I didn't sit between Diddy legs in a puddle. Of what? Of oil. All right. No, I was. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna revisit that. That's the part of my life. When you redid the Juice skit, I thought that was hilarious. That one was. Yeah. I'm gonna always be insulting to you guys. I loved it, actually. Donnell, how frustrating is it, right, when people are not taking you serious because you're a comedian? It's interesting because I really. For what we do, I don't really want people to take me serious. I want them to find me to be funny. You know what I'm saying? People take you, too. That's not true. That's not your question. You know that's not true. You like to be taken serious. Yeah. That. You actually get very frustrated when people don't take you as serious as they should. What makes you think I get frustrated? Because you've told me that. You remember when you told me that. Remember when you yelled at me over the phone and I didn't realize that you were playing. I thought we were playing, and then you was like, no, you don't ever take me serious. That's a horrible impression. I know. You said, I would like to get a real interview for once, like every other thing that comes. No, it's a gift and a curse if you want to say. Yeah, you know, because it's times you want people to understand that you're serious. But at the end of the day, as a comedian, I don't want people to take me that serious. I want people to, you know, think I'm funny and laugh at. Laugh at the jokes. Yeah. But in times when you are really serious, you know, like when you were talking about your dad, you know, and how he trying. You're trying to trigger something. I'm not. I just want. I just said the timing. Okay. Sometimes. And there's times that I have moments and I was having a moment that went viral and you laughed and you laughed, and I thought that was very insensitive. Yeah. What do we laugh at when I. He was saying when he had grew up, who's laughing now? We're not laughing. I don't find it funny. I see. Said. I said. I remember when I had. I. I was trying to explain a. A part of my life, and I think that it Was very insensitive. That. That's only because we laughed before. You got to the part about your uncle. What about? It was. It was about. It was about my dad. It was his dad, not his uncle, who died. His dad. No, it was. I. That was the part about that. No, I thought he laughed about your dad passing away another time. What? But the other part when you were talking about being grown up, I said when I grew up, I was trying to go back to a story of my childhood with his dad. Oh, I thought that. And it was relating to the relationship that I had with my son. And then when I was doing that, that's when y' all left. But I, you know, like, I've gotten past that. You know, brother spent a lot of time with your uncle. More than you. Who's your uncle? Who's that? First of all, my brother, who happened to be a part of the letter community, said that the gays don't like. What is trade? Trade. Charlemagne. Yeah, trade. He comes off as, like, not gay, but he said. He said you are not trade. He said you're not traded and nobody is checking for you. Trade is a masculine, potentially straight identifying man who engages in same sex activity for various benefits, like money or companionship. So what I've been told is that I'm not trade. I'm actually a butch queen. Oh, wow. So ask your brother that call. He sounds very trady. Hello? Whatever. So I have Charlemagne here. He had a question for you, Chuck. Okay. Good morning. So you don't consider me trade? No, boy, no. Come on. What about. What about a butch queen? Yeah, absolutely. Oh, his brother said absolutely. But what is a. What is a. What is a butch queen? What the kids will call Charlemagne. The YNs, the Y. N's would call them. No, not the wires. The older ones. I don't know what. And Donnell would be a bear, Right? What is that? What am I? What is a bear? That's envy. Envy said. What is he? I don't really know what to put the light skinned people. Oh, it's a whole different. It's a whole different category. Because your complexion. Well, I guess. What'd you say? There's rules to this. What are the rules? I'm giving them to you, okay? I'm here to listen. What else you want? You just ask me what would Charlemagne would not betray, but butch queen. Absolutely. Charlemagne. The top or bottom? Bottom. I'm. I'm a power top. Clearly more versatile. That would be me. I can see that. I can see me being versed. Flexible. Could you leave your brother alone, though, Tyler. Last thing, his brother. I mean, tell your brother that he loves doing tricks on the bidet. What is that? Oh, Charlie man loves doing tricks on the bidet. What is that? Being prepared. Being well prepared. I told him that was a getaway. The gateway, but. The gateway. The gateway. But thank you for giving me a little bit more acknowledge on who this motherfucker really is. Thank you, Chuck. Anytime. You take it easy, all right? Take it easy. Charlamagne. I tried to be nice to you. This is what I want to say. Why don't. No. Why don't you just shut the fuck up? Period? How about that? Have you ever tried that? Can I ask a question? No, I got my hand raised. Can you have your hand? Shut the fuck up. Can I have my. I got my hand. No. Shut the fuck up. I want to ask you a question about your son. That is not a good transition. That was a good transition. That is not a good transition. That's not a question. All right. If your son watches your career years from now, what's the lesson? You want him to take away that his dad tried everything to make people feel good about themselves? It's so funny. Cause my son, he knows what I do. This is so interesting. One day, it was over the summer, we were talking, and I don't think he knows some of the things I did, movies and stuff like that. So I was like. I said, you know, dad is somewhat of an accomplished actor. Whatever. He was like, yeah. So I just started showing him different things that I've done. What's the first thing you showed accomplished? I showed him a scene with me on HBO's the Wire. It was the scene where my character just got introduced. It was me in the back room with Lieutenant Daniels, and I'm in there talking trash like, yo, I would steal this. I would steal this. And I said, my name is Damian Price, but I mostly go by Day Dae. And then on the other end, he says, my name is Daniels. I mostly go by Lieutenant, right? So now I find out that it's a cop in there, right? So I asked my son, I said, what do you see in that scene? He said, I see somebody that's about to get in trouble. Me, right? He said, daddy, did you get arrested in that scene? I said, yeah. So I'm just thinking as an actor, I said, I want to show him the other scene. He said, I don't want to see that, Daddy. I said, you know, I'm an actor. I said, it's not real. It's make believe. He said, yeah, but I don't want to see my father getting locked up. And I. You know, I never thought that he separated. He's like, he knows I'm an actor, whatever, but he's in no situation. He wanted to see me get locked up. And it made me think about my father. Like, I used to actually go visit my father, you know, and not. Where was he In Peter Lewisburg Prison. Yeah. And I remember this. What you did to me. You see that? I'm traumatized, nigga. Soon as I said I remember, even your people started laughing. Soon as I said, this is what this nigga did to me. Soon as I said I remember, I felt something. Traumatized. Yeah. What you remember going to see your dad in jail? Yeah. And I just think behind the glass and everything, I thought that was normal. And that's why I don't understand how some guys put themselves in a position where that would be how you fucking not raise your kids or be in that situation. That's why we got to start shaming people that's in the street. I don't judge people for what they did during survival, but we do have to start clowning people when they doing street stuff that can take them away from their family. Yeah, my father was a perfect example of that. My father was a Heroin Kingspin in D.C. some years ago. Right. And he's been. He was. He passed away. Sorry. Yeah, Some time ago, Right. But close to the end of his life, come to find out he was still in the streets. Really? He was still selling drugs. And he was selling drugs like he was in the 70s. The code words they was using. Yo, I'm at the place. How many nuggets do you need? Like thirty, a hundred? I'm like, how the fuck. How old was he when he passed? Yeah, my dad was 72. 72, yeah. But he was still in the streets. That's what I understand. But that's when somebody say, somebody's a born hustler. It's like, what would make you jeopardize your freedom relationship? Would you have your kids? Some people was just built for the streets. And that was. It was unfortunate, but I'm like, when do you stop that? So your relationship. It wasn't a close relationship when he passed? No, we was as close as you. I mean, he. Most of my life, he was in prison, you know what I'm saying? So we didn't have. I don't have anything bad to say about him. We just didn't have that type connection. But you know, I was a young boy growing up just like one in a relationship with his father. Didn't exist. You ever tried to get him out? Because you are accomplished, you are doing well, and say, dad, you ain't gotta do this no more. You can just stay with me, raise your grandson. Stay with me. Or push him out the streets, or you was just. My dad had too much pride to probably ask anybody for anything, you know? You know what's crazy? I have my hand wrapped up. We see. You wanna go to him? Danielle. What? Okay. Have you unpacked any of this in therapy? Cause she's about to move on and not even care about any of this. No, no, no. It's in relation to what he's talking about with his dad. Have you unpacked any of this? Nah. I mean, I haven't unpacked it in therapy. I don't know if I need therapy for that. I just look at. I look at my father and I use that as an example of what I don't want to do with my son. That's why one of the things with my son, I always, like, make memories. Make memories. So I' and then I just remember when I do things with him, when I take my son on the river, when I do trips and everything, it just reminds me of things I didn't do with my dad. And it makes me want to be more aggressively in my son's life. Even though me and Stephanie are together, like, I'm, like, actively, like, I'm involved with my son's life. Anybody that follow me, they know that. Anybody know that know me know that? Absolutely. You want to hug right now? I don't want to hug. Did you let your son see your greatest role? Since you are an accomplished actor, did you let him see your greatest role ever? What you consider to be my greatest role ever? When you played the pizza heist guy in Spider Man Part two, the pizza heist. Wouldn't. That wasn't my greatest role, but it was fantastic. It was good line was amazing. You killed that line for a kid to be a part of that. Can you show them the line? Cause they probably didn't see it. So it's. What's the Spider man nigga name? Spider Man. Spider man nigga. Toby, Toby, Toby. He's working for this pizza company, right? And every day he's delivering these pizzas. He's late. He's late. And then they tell him, they said, yo, if you. If you. If you late one more time, you're going to get fired for Your job. So he's driving down the street, you know what I mean? He look at the clock, he's going to be late. So he gets off the bike, he goes in the alley, and then he comes back as Spider man with a pizza box. And he's like, whoa, he stole that guy's pizza? No. Let me tell you something interesting story about that. When I got that role for Spider man, they do what you call audition. It's called reaction audition. Like, they'll just give you a scenario. They'll just be like this. You're in the elevator, Spider man comes in there. How are you going to respond? You walking down the street, how you respond? They audition you and just see what your improv reaction is going to be. So when I, before I got that role, that was some years ago, I was supposed to do man on the street for BET Awards, right? And at that time, from my generation of comedy, it wasn't a lot of opportunity. So being a part of bet, anything was a big deal. So I was excited that I was going to be this man on the street guy. The guy who was directing it, he wanted me, but the producers were still sketchy about it. So, you know, we had talked. We had talked, and up until Friday, that Friday, we did a wardrobe. I had some. Got a wardrobe fitting and all that. And I was supposed to go to work that Saturday morning for bet. I get a call at night and they said, the producers want to go in a different direction. They was like, the road that I thought I was gonna have the man on the street, it just disappeared. And this was like, not even, I mean, within 24 hours. So I wasn't fucking with BET. I was like, they be on some bullshit. I was upset about that. Then the next morning, I get a call from my manager and he said, we got a call from the Spider man team. They want you to come to work, right? And that was so crazy. And the crazy thing about it was the location where I was supposed to do the BET situation. It was literally right around the corner from the Spider man set. So I had to walk past the BET set and N was looking at me like, did anybody tell him, wow. Like, I walked past and Sam Raimi, he came up to me, he said, downhill, you're my favorite actor in New York. Well, you're the only actor I know in new. And what they do is, I didn't know what I was gonna do. He's got a stick right here with an X on it. He said, he tells you the situation. He said, so Donnell, this is Toby, right? He goes to the alley, he does like this to see your eyeline, he said, and he comes out as Spider Man. He said, what are you gonna say? And I just said, whoa, he stole a guy's pizza. And that was the improv line. And he kept it. And the rest of the day, that's all he kept saying for the rest of that. So it just worked. It's funny how one situation got shut down and it opened up because nobody would have remembered me doing on the street stuff for bet. But I go down the history of being a part of that brand and I had one line, but it was, did you ever get any cheeks because of that one appearance in Spider Man 2? I didn't get any cheeks from it, but I made my friend's kids very happy. Like my, one of my friends. It was funny because, you know, dad's always going to try to be proud. My friend Brooklyn Mike, right at the time, his daughter was young at the time, and he said, you know, my daughter said, can daddy, can you introduce me to Spider Man? Can Donnell introduce me to Spider Man? And of course, he been a dad. He said, well, you know, I know Spider man too. And his daughter looked at him and said, I know. But Donnell worked with Spider man, so anytime I got to flex for kids or whatever like that, but I never got no ass. I don't believe any of these stories happen because of this one little line in Spider Man 2, Spider man adjacent, you got negative. You Spider Man. You know, over and over, that was. I probably got about two, $3,000. Oh, even with the royalties and all that, they. No, I mean, it constantly comes, but after a while, you know, it's not like crazy amount, but you get paid little something just breath, show. I'm just saying, do you feel that the industry rewards the comedians who take risk are the ones who play it safe. I don't think it's the industry that is the connection. It's the audience. It's the audience. At the end of the day, all we trying to do is build a fan. We could be in film and TV all we want. But for real, a comedian that's a real comedian. At the end of the day, your biggest concern can I put my name on the market and can people come and check me out telling jokes so I don't get caught up in what the industry does? I'm a part of the industry, but I make a living without it. If I don't ever get another film, TV gig for the rest of My life, the fact that I can make money telling jokes, it's a win. So I look at like that. Yeah, you're telling jokes this weekend. Actually a new week. Yeah. At the stress factory. Yes sir. Speaking of stress factory, I don't trust your face. What is your problem? I'm just saying, it's just like you holding back. It's like your. There's something special about folks who come through without being asked. Like your coworker surprising you with your favorite coffee just because. Or your friend handing you the aux cord the moment you get into the car. No debate, no fight, just positive vibes. That kind of love. It just hits different. And that's exactly the energy. 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Do you not? Yeah. Do we have conversations? Do we have conversations? When you told me, you said, donnie, I want to invest some money, you told me you never did that. You did. You said you wanted to open up a gay club in South Carolina. So I did ask you about a comedy club. No, you said a gay comedy club. You said because the Cox. You said the Cox are strong down there. You said, the Cox is popping down there in South Carolina, get whatever Cox is Cops club funny would be dope for a gay comedy club up but I don't know how to say this man. I'm sick of you, man. I'm really sick of you. Would you like a biscuit? I don't want. If I didn't have to sell ticket I'm telling you. Iberry. What? No, I'm good. I'm good on that. Ah, you know. No, that joint, look got some skeet magic on. Come on now. Nah, I'm good. You sure? I'm positive. You looked at it? Yes, sir. Now, you've been in the game for a long time. What keeps you motivated to still hit the stage? What motivates Donnell and what makes Donnell laugh at this time? Pills motivate me to go on stage. Yeah but it just, I really, after 30 plus years, I still enjoy what I do. You know what I'm saying? You got a couple of people to go to a show, it's people that need to laugh and the people that want to laugh. When I do a show and people come up to me and they're like, you know what, I was having a bad day, I lost my aunt or something. I didn't expect to go out. Everybody said, come out and enjoy yourself. And when I, I talk to those people and then like you removed me from the things that I was dealing with, you know, for at least 45 minutes. That's what kind of gives me motivated to do it. And every year I try to evolve and get better. I really, really genuinely enjoy what I'm doing. Are you chasing legacy or chasing checks, Donnell? I'm not, I'm, I'm not. I'm definitely always going to chase checks because that's what I do. But I don't know what my legacy will b. You never know. You think people connect with you don't never know. People like this world we live in now, people gonna talk shit about anything. As much as you try to do the right thing, it's always gonna be some negative energy. And as long as we try to not focus on that, we've been. Why do you respond to you though? Because you're quick to respond to negative energy, negative things said to you. And it seems like you're the person that continues to do it, which keeps the motion continuing on. It's hard for me, the hardest thing, and it's easy for you to say, you just don't give a fuck. It's hard not to give a fuck. So you do care. It really is. You do care. And to a certain. I'm getting a little stronger with that. But at some point, you like you the comments. I shouldn't be in the comments. But you reading the comments and everything, you're like, oh, this shit is popping. This feels good. And then it's that one person that could throw you off. You know, that one person you like. Why don't you feel like everybody else feel? But I realized social media is just a. It's just a playground for people to be negative and nasty. You just realizing that today? No, not today. No, not today. I just. It's just. It's a constant thing. Have you unpacked this with your therapist about why these comments bother you? Like, why everything got to be about unpacking? Man, I don't want to unpack. Why the. Is that the new word? Is it comedian? Do you get, like, when you do therapist, do you get words of the day, like, you have to. You use. Calm down. I'm not upset. Yo, please. You want to hug? You do. No, I don't want to hug. You do know that you. You do know what you're doing, right? You do know what you're doing. You're breath, breathe, breathe, breathe, breathe, breathe, breathe. I'm sorry, is it regular people that do this to you or other comedians? I'm sorry. No, comedians don't. With me. Oh, yes, they do. No, they don't. They don't. Who? They don't like him. He means they don't like him. Comedians don't like him. He says they won't say it to me. Oh, yes. Well, I love. No, when. Tell me. A lot of us. I don't want to bring up anything old. I don't want to rehash. No good job. Yeah, but what I'm saying is anybody can be boisterous online, but, like, face to face, it's a whole different story. Absolutely. And you give me an example of anybody that had an issue with me, had brought it to my face. I don't want to do it. I don't want to. I would love for you. I don't want to talk about it. No, this is a good time for you to unpack. No, I will leave it there. I will leave it there. No, I will leave it there. You try to start some with Arnes J. Huh? When you call me, you try to make it seem like I called to something like that, and I got nothing but respect for honest J. You tried to. You try to start some. You starting beef with comedians now Unpack it. That's not what happened? Unpack. What the hell is he talking about? You started something between him and Arnaz. J. What's something, Donnell? What's something you learned about yourself recently? Recently? That surprised you? Nothing. I don't be learning shit about myself. Nothing. That's the problem, right? If you weren't a comedian, what would you be doing right now? Donnell? I would probably be a. I wanted to be a carp first. I wanted to be an architect, but I wasn't that nice in math, so I was like, that's not gonna be a good thing. Then I would've probably been a carpenter. You'd have been a good sous chef. No. You give carpenter? Yeah, I would have been. I would definitely something. Something blue collar for sure. How do you. You don't think you've been a sous chef? I would have been a chef. I wouldn't have been a sous chef. How the hell does somebody give carpenter Lawrence? They just sit. They got stories, they got a toolbox they walk around with. Oh, they come in your house and how you doing, man? Blue collar niggas get the most. You wanna know who fucks the artist in the community? I'm gonna tell you. Football coaches and handyman. You do know personally, handyman? I know football coaches and handyman. Football coach. Especially in the inner city because there's so many fatherless kids out there. Coach Johnson is all of the mothers. Just because he spends time with them kids. Coach Johnson is amazing. Yeah. I mean, that's not a real name, but I just put it out there. Richard, Richard Johnson out there. Just everyone's mothers, children. When you look at the. The state of comedy today, right? Yeah. Climate of comedy, Right. What pisses you off and what makes you proud? Great question, Jess. Nothing. Nothing pisses me off. I used to not understand certain things and I would just say that, for example, like, I've been doing it for a very long time. People that haven't been doing this longest, I have, like yourself, you came along, you had different tools to advance yourself. You know, it's like a lot of older comics, well, they on social media, whatever, but those are tools that, that exist. Those are tools that they, they sharpen their toolbox to do that. But I do say with that, with all the success like some young comics get, like, like in the moment, I would really appreciate if people took the art form of stand up to be good at it and not just like, okay, I got this five minutes of fame, whatever. People come to see me, but really give a fuck about being a dope, stand up so you think social media comedians are watering down the art form? I don't think. I don't. I don't say watering down. It's. Comedy is evolving. The definition. I remember some years ago, I was talking to this girl and she was like this, I'm a comedian. I said, let me see some of your stuff. She said, I'm on YouTube. And she said. She started showing me some skits. I said, that's not a comedian. She said, yes, it is. Because when I think of the idea of comedian, I think of stand up. Stand up, stand up. But if you really look at the definition of comedian, it says one who entertains an audience through humor. So what used to be the definition of a comedian, it has changed and it's evolved. Chappelle's show wasn't a comedy then. Why wasn't what? Chappelle show wasn't a comedy. By your logic, that makes no sense now that I don't understand what you're saying, because you said she showed you sketches and you said, this isn't comedy. No, stand up. No, no, no, no. Because without. When she said comedian, I was just thinking, stand up comedian. You know what I'm saying? Not thinking of just somebody making sketch comedian. Yeah, it could be a sketch comedian. But that's not what she say that. She just said she was a comedian and his mind automatically reverted to. It went to, like, stand up. But she's a comedic actor. Whatever you want to say. How do those comedians you talk about get their stripes then? Like, what is it that they do? Because not everybody that is online does stand up where they get their stripe. A lot of people, they. First off, they want to know how they can get some more money. You know what I'm saying? It's like this, okay. I got this fan base, you know what I'm saying? People follow me, they see me doing sketches, but I want to turn that into something else. So eventually it turns into you doing standard, because how else are you going to get the other check if you don't go perform? So it just turns into that. I have a hand up. Can I ask a question? I don't know what it is, but I just don't trust you, man. Just a question. I'm having a real conversation. You need to really unpack that. I'm just asking. In this long career that you had, you know, you've done stand up, you've done skits, you've done comedy, you've done tv, you've done morning radio. Out of all the things that you did. What would you say is your biggest mistake that you've ever made? That you think back and, like, that was wrong or I apologize. I'll tell you what my biggest mistake was. First time I ever came on this show. Why do you feel that way? Because look at what this created. It's created a monster. I gotta come up here, I gotta look at you. I gotta worry about unpacking shit with this nigga over here. And then wherever I go, people like, why you let the fuck would you like that? And I don't. That's probably the biggest mistake in my career, was actually coming up here. So why you keep coming back? I gotta sell tickets, promote shows. First of all, we don't with you. Like, that's. That is such, you know, false narrative. So why would y' all let him come up here if y' all don't with him? No, no, no, no. I mean, like, we don't with him. That is so much. Nobody messes with Donnell. Oh, you think we fuck with you, Donnell? You for the love. I don't even. I used to like you. Wow. You didn't speak to me when you walked in today. I didn't notice. I wasn't. I was. That's the thing. When I come in here, I don't know what to expect. He's so triggered. What? My Beyond Measure chains. Oh, that's nice. Thank you. He knows true fashion. Look at his sweater. Another question. When you were in the Air Force, right, and you were stationed in South Korea, what did you mean by that? What did you. I like your sweater. It's nice. I know. What. What did you. What did you learn in South Korea that you still use in today's world? I don't trust nothing about this. Buttons. And they are buttoning. It's crazy, Chris, but what'd you say? I said, when you were stationed in South Korea in the military, what did you learn there that you still use in today's business or in comedy? It was a phrase, and it's in. I'm saying in Korean. Pojio mayo. What that mean? How much for the pussy? Oh, poji omayo. Poji o mayo. So you bought vagina in Korea? South Korea? No, I didn't buy, but I needed. Why would you know that? Because it was a phrase. Poji o myo. You had to know that. Why did you have to know that if you weren't buying them? Okay, all right. I was 18 years old, and I was over there stationed in Korea. I was 18 years old. I was on a Remote base. A remote base means that for Every. For every one female, she has 15 or 20 guys to choose from. And I wasn't in nobody top five, so I had to learn how to say pojio. Your issues don't come from the Breakfast Club. They started back when you were over there and you were top down. But I didn't buy. I had a girlfriend over there. Isn't it true that. Called a yobo? It's called yobo. Yobo is like a girlfriend for a year. Is it like. Is that. Do they have, like, lady? Pretty much. Boys. Is that. Is that a. I didn't traffic her. I was in the country. You leased. You leased a lady? Yeah. You can lease a yobo. Was she full lady? Yeah, she was. I had to think about it. I have to think about everything on this show because I don't know the energy and where it's coming from, but yeah, I had a relation I was in a relationship with over there. I thought so for a year. You thought so. How much did you pay to leave, sir? Did Miles matter? It's a great question. Did Miles matter? Was she a hoe there and you didn't know? No, she was a ho. She was a yobo. What's that. What's that mean? Just your partner for a year, Somebody to take care of you and make sure you're all right and make sure you get all the. All. All your needs taken care of. But she wasn't a lady, boy. No, she wasn't a lady. That's what I was asking. Do you have any favorite comedians these days? Like any. Any newcomers? And you got any favorites from the Internet that you like to look at? One of my guys is here right now. Adrian Washington. He just had a. He did a bucket pull on Kill Tony show. I've been working with him for, like a year. I think he was voted. He didn't even mention his name. Minneapolis. He's been here 40 minutes. Didn't even shout that brother out one time. Because we shouted out your podcast co host, Gervonta Roberts, one time, and he's been sitting here for 40 minutes. Because we know what we do. Ignore each other. No, it'll be the right time for it. Ignore each other. It's the collective. I started this new thing. I realized that I've been. I've had a lot of influence in this business. I know a lot of people. And I said, you know, I wanted to do something where I got a group of creatives that we come together. We have, like, creative retreats we create content and we pretty much hit all type of areas in this business. And I was like, instead of. It's not like I represent anybody, but we have a group of people, and I'm gonna start this thing. It's a raw edge collective where we come together as a crew. And if somebody's like, oh, we need somebody to choreograph this dance routine where the first thing I'm thinking about is your vanta. Why would you dancing, huh? Why do you need to choreograph dance routines? Yeah, I'm not saying for myself. I'm saying if somebody had a situation like that got you. Gotcha. I'm gonna be a tick tock sensation. You'll see. You'll see. That's right. You said you influence people. What? What have you influenced? Are people stealing your stuff, if that's what you mean. No, like, I've helped a lot of comics, I've helped a lot of comments get to certain levels. Why don't they give you credit? That's just part of the business. Well, I mean, they don't get their credit. Like, Dave gets his credit all the time. Chris Rock is his credit all the time. People, you know, like, those guys get their credit. Why don't Donnell Rollins get his credit? If you helping people, like this word. It happens sometimes. Sometimes people say thank you. A lot of times they don't. Yeah, I've never heard that Kevin Hart gets his credit. Who have you helped? Good question. A lot of people. No, you. Who, like. Yeah. Who? I don't want to talk about it because then I don't want to talk. He helps me all the time. He gives me great advice. I call him. I had a group years ago, and this probably was. I'm sorry. It's hard for me to stay focused. Jazz, I'm so sorry. That raised their hand and said, hey, you helped me. No, go ahead, go ahead. That's all I was saying. Oh, you just helped me. You know, just giving me inspiration and, you know, mentoring me and things like that. Just great advice. I appreciate you. You're one of the best stand up comedians ever. You are fired. I really, I appreciate you. Yeah. And I say it all the time. Yeah, you do. And I probably repeat myself. I remember years ago, you had reached out to me in a dm and this was when you was first starting. Only thing you want to know is, like, what I need to do. And I didn't. I didn't give you. I don't think I gave you any advice. I might have said I think I might have said, get on stage. I think I might have said, get on stage. Everything you're gonna learn is gonna be from what you do as a performer. And it's interesting. Cause I know people go at you or whatever, right? And the thing that fucks me up the most is like, if you don't respect anything about you respect your hustle. You know what I'm saying? Like, people think it's easy. I know you get it all the time. Oh. Cause she got these followers. But those followers just don't come out of nowhere. They come from putting the work in. I've seen you grow as a standup. When we just did that show, where were we? You were. When? California. Sacramento. Yeah. And I was like. I was like, why don't they talk about this? You know what I'm saying? I've seen you captivated audience. The way you acted. You just had that orders in the palm of your hand. I was like to. I know you get a lot of dumb, but I look at you like, this is an example of somebody. When you work hard at something and you put the work in, you'll get the results, you know? So I always shout y' all even. Not even when shit is happening. You know, I'll just call you like, what's up? And check. Yeah. Yep. I don't have any more questions. I don't think this went the way I wanted. Can I. Why? I was just. This is brought to my attention a comment that somebody posted. You were on Kill Tony. I was yesterday with Rob Snyder. Oh, you went back. Okay, nice. And somebody. I went back. See, I made up everything. Was Somebody made up Kill Tony. We know. I never had an issue with Kill Tony. It was really bad for you on there at one point. It wasn't bad. I. It was. You got booed and booed. What are you talking about? I didn't get booed on Kill Tony. That was another place. I got booed on Roast Battles. No, no, no. You walked off and killed Tony. I removed myself from a negative situation. Yeah. That guy was. I didn't say I had a guy. I. Could y' all please stop. You walked off because the guy was killing you so bad. I did not boo him, though. Javante. What happened? They didn't boo him that time. I'm sorry. Javon, what happened? I didn't. Come here. Javon, come to the mic. He crashed out. What? What? What happened? Okay, so go ahead, tell the story. Don't be scared. Why did you. Did he hit you? Blanket, if you need help? Blink if you need help. I just don't. I just don't want to come on here and act like gunna. I love you so much. You've helped me as well. But he's. He's. He's a great representation. Link, if you need help, tell us what happened to K. Not last night, but the time before when he walked off. Well, he has a tendency to crash out, and so at that point. No, no, don't look at him. At that point, he was already gone. He was already gone. Okay. Damn. Look at me adjusting. Okay. He was already gone and he. He walked off. So what do you think happened at the last one, the last taping? Because there's a really negative comments that. I'm about to read this last night. Yeah, he killed it. Killed it. There was nothing wrong with it. There's a comment that says, Donnell Rawlings branded comedy is so bad to me, like watching a train wreck. Charlamagne's gonna have a field day tomorrow. Jesus. Wow. Jesus. But see, those are your type of people. No, they're negative. They're negative. You. They're negative. Those are your type. Nothing to do with me. You went through everything. You went through everything, showed me this. And then first of all, all I did was type your name and it was top of the. I didn't even know she called you a top. I was. I typed your name in on X and then it just was like, probably like top three tweets. At least he didn't get booed. He didn't get booed again. That's the. That's the moment. Yes, he is. He's amazing on stage. Okay. I don't like him booing him, though. Okay. The thing is, I did kill Tony some years ago. Yes. Five years ago, actually. And I was on that stage for two and a half hours and I had something to do. And I told Tony I'm not gonna be here forever. Two and a half hours is a long time. It's a very, very long time. You had a sushi date? I just didn't have a sushi date. It was one of those sushi spots where it takes a year to get a reservation. They sit six or eight people. It's not like going to sushi. Samba. Sushi stop. Like to go. It was one of it. I don't even know the name of it. It's a speakeasy joint. I wish. I feel bad that I'm. It's a. It's like one of the best place in Austin, Texas. I had to Go. And what happened was they did a video where they showed me having. Going at with this comic. If you look at the video, you'll see it's one shot, one community. It's another shot. So they edit. I know. You explained it last time. You know, if you're explaining, you're losing. I just want you to know that. No, no. If you're explaining your mind, I know. That is not what that means. Yes, it does. This comment right here says. What do you say? It says somebody named allegedly Drew. I don't know who that is. He has a check mark says you were hilarious. But Donnell Rawlings is the worst guest I've ever seen. Stereotypes are so real. That's what he said to Rob Schneider. But that. But the thing is that base. And I will say Tony has created a platform for people to get on. That's one of the biggest YouTube shows. Whatever. But the people that watch that, they just like. They just. They are a lot of. I say 75 of people. They're trolls. They live for mom. They lift to try to get on your skin. And they do every time. Does the trolling ever get on your nerves? So it does. You said they do sometimes, but I'm getting better. Do you want to hug? Ignoring it. No, I don't want a hug. Well, I love you. I don't know what I want. You have shows at the Stress Factory? Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Yes. Are they sold out yet? Is it six shows or five? It's two shows Friday, two shows Saturday, and one show on Sunday. Okay, so five. I do well in that club. I'm pretty sure it will sell out. I know. Said he sells out before he even came up here. He said he don't even have to talk about this. Okay, well, that's Gary Owens is y'. All. I don't give a. Rapper dynamic came out, yo. Keep talking about other niggas, yo. So what? I don't give a fuck. So what? Fuck em all. You sell your tickets the way you sell your tickets. And I will sell my tickets the way I sell my tickets. Next question. I like the new fashion forwards. I mean, my fashion never been backwards, Nigga, you the one that need a stylist, nigga. Do you ever look at the pictures of you? I like the fashion forward, Darnell. We appreciate you, Darnell. Yes. You dress like August Alsina boyfriend. At the bottom, like a school teacher at the top. The fact that you have all these gay references. Just ready. Anything gay. You got a whole speech about that shit. Top, bottom. You don't even say pause in pause situation, sir. That's how free you are with yourself. You would just let it go. And you, you would only think I know will unpause or pause. Do you think comedians are afraid to joke because they're scared of how people will label them? I'm pretty. Yeah, 1000% they are scared to talk about. That's why you in touch with yourself. That's why when people call you and it's me as Fruity Tootie or Booty Bandits, which I'll do, it don't affect you because you're in touch with your sexuality. Booty Tootie Tootie Rudy, or whatever it is. Do you think black men in comedy get boxed into certain stereotypes about masculinity and sexuality more than others? 100, I believe 100%. 100%. But I also believe that, you know, that people's way of thinking have evolved. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, black men, period, are just for the most part, naturally homophobic. But now we live. Not true. Don't generalize all black men like that. You just gave me props for being in touch with my sexuality. So don't label all black men as being homophobic. You're not a regular nigga though, son. What kind of nigga is he? He does his eyebrows. No, I don't. Yes, you do. Yes, you do. Definitely. Do you know what I like? I don't believe that you just naturally wake up with your eyebrows. Don't get mad at me because you got to feel yours in every morning. Wow. Yeah, but I just think. I just think the way people think is totally different now. At some point you gotta be like, who gives a. And you just keep it moving. What's the wildest assumption people have ever made about you and your sexuality and how did you handle it? I've never had no wild situations by my sexuality. That's a lie. I. Somebody thought. See, that's some old car. Somebody thought you were gay before. I don't know who that could be. Where'd you find Javante? I've been knowing what I keep saying. I'm sorry. I've been knowing her for how long we been knowing? 20 something. Yeah. 15. Yeah, she was. She was working for this Internet. What's poppin? What was the name of that show? Yeah, she was a host of it. She was very young. And how did we reconnect after that? I was on a date and then you heckled my date. And then I got up on stage and I started doing stand up she did stuff. You defended your date at a comedy show and Donnell Rollins heckled your date. Yeah, cuz he couldn't figure out how I was. He got me like, how am I. Oh, so you was on a date with an ugly dude with a comedy you trying to holl on? Somebody did that to Stephanie. Oh, how did you do? And then J got Try to talk to her. I hope so. I had a standup career. No, no, let me explain something. She was a stripper at first. Yo, wait a minute. Why y' all got all this excitement for her? Why y' all all perky now? Can you sit on the couch? Sit on the couch for a second. Do you remember. You got. You remember some of your moves? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let's give her own mic. Show me one move, Donnell. Move over A Missy move, a Shakira move. No, you got to sit over there. Yes, J. J Roberts. Right. Okay. Okay, so yeah, back. Thanks D. For joining us. Okay, no, this is, this is what I'm saying. That's the up and let your van. I met Patrick too, back then. I've known Patrick Clark. This can. I just want to be clear. This is part of the collective giving people opportunities. I know. You called it. He was heckling you at the. He was heckling me at the. At the. All right, first of all, wait, no, no, no. Let me. No, no, no. Let me say this. A lot of people don't argue about. A lot of people don't let me. Black man speak. Donnell, I wanted to say something. Yes, I'm saying part of the collective, like you said. Of course you invited her to the mic. I invited her to the show. That's how the collective. You didn't even introduce her when she walked. That's why you didn't bring. Because the reason why I didn't. All right, go ahead. Go jab, Jim boy. No, What a part of a. Part of what people don't see about Donnell. Like, he's so altruistic, he's so giving. Is that like autistic? No. What? Let me look that up. He's giving. He's done so much behind the scenes and we don't really get to see that part of him. So I appreciate so much. Over the last 15 years or so, I've learned so much about work ethic. He's like one of the hardest, hardest working comedians I know and. Shut up and let her talk. He said he was what, altruistic? That means showing a disinterest and selfless concern for the well Being of others. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Altruistic? Autistic? No, he's unselfish. Oh, unselfish. Okay, okay, okay. He's giving, like, he'll get. He's selfless. He'll give the last. Like, the last thread of the last thing he owns. So what happened? You with your boy? Okay, so I was. Yeah, I was on date. Got nervous because after he was heckling the date, I had mentioned that I wanted to do standup. So what did he say to the date? He was like, you know, how did you. How did you get her? Like, how'd you end up with her? And he has. He was like, oh, she wants to do stand up. So then Donna brought me on the stage, but he didn't remember that I'd already interviewed him. So. Cut to. I got on a stage, I killed it. Remember? I killed it. And then. And then I would go. I was about 18, and I would go to Donnell's house and I'd take notes and I would. I was just, like, legitimately trying to be a standup, but I was also dancing with Missy Elliott and Shakira, and that was very demanding. So I couldn't balance the standup life and my career as a choreographer. Choreographer, no. Here's the thing. You danced in Missy videos or on stage with her? On stage. I did the hip. I did. Yeah. And he was actually there. I was dancing with the dream, too, and he was the warmup. She was doing stand up. She did. This is that. She says, this is the. A story. She did stand up, right? I did. And I told her, I said, whatever you do, don't go up there, talk about being pretty or beautiful or any of that. I said, the reason why. I said, you. You look better than most of people that come to the show. And women are so up, they will hate you for that. Cut to. She did exactly what I told her not to do. Oh, God. How did it go? Now, let me tell you. She said something. I was like this. And then she came up to me at the end of the show. She was like this. She said. She said. This was the only second time I said. She said, what do you do when they're not laughing? I said, if you are going to cry about this situation, I advise you to quit stand up right now. And that was the last show she ever did. That was the last show. Okay, but that was great advice, though, if it really was. But I mean, I like the. The fact that she was curious about it and she did it and she tried she had a little notepad and she was doing a thing. But you know, it's a certain like to. For to have, if you want to say, some success. And then all of a sudden it's different. Some people can't handle it. And that's when you get stronger, when you go back and you challenge yourself. Will she be on stage with you at the last Scratch Factory this weekend? No, she. She'll probably be hanging out. Yeah. But she loves. I'm acting now. I'm on Beauty and Black on Netflix. Netflix. And then I guess, hey, that's my show. I just booked the series regular, so that'll be coming. Nice. Congratulations. But I'm gonna tell you like, I've been knowing her for the longest time. One of my closest friends, I consider to be my daughter. Never seen her, never seen her around. Yep. Anything. When did this happen until you needed. If you look back at the history of my podcast, whatever, she was one of my first co hosts. We've had relationship. But the thing that I really appreciate about her and everybody has ups and downs in their career, right? She's been through it. She has some highs and some lows. But the thing I respect the most, she never stops. You know what I'm saying? Even when life is fucked up and life can be fucked up, she never stopped. That's why I said, I told her, I said I'm gonna be as supportive as possible. You know, we went to the Caribbean Caribbean Music Awards the other day and it was something she really wanted to go. We went, we went, we had a good time. But that is like my whole idea of what the collective is. Just if you in a position where you could look out for somebody or throw somebody a bone or give him a platform to shine, I think you're supposed to do it. And I think that's dope. And you have a life outside of here. So although you never said anything, we didn't know about her. We know about her now cuz she's with him. Yeah. Known D a long time, never seen her with him. He do be trying to. How do you pronounce your name again? J. We appreciate you for joining us. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for. Had to emphasize. We appreciate you for joining us. Great. She was phenomenal. She has a lot of energy. Thank you. Because Beauty in the Black is. Is the show right now. I do have one more question for Mr. Rawlings. At this stage in your career, do you feel like you've gotten everything you deserve or are you still fighting for Your flowers. I'm not fighting for my flowers. Because whatever flowers is going to happen, it's already. It's already laid. It's already laid out. I'm not fighting for anything. I'm not. I don't. I'm not fighting for any more fame or any of that. I just like the path that I'm on. I like the fact that I've been doing it over 30 some years. I still can pull an audience. I'm still funny. You got some people that come and they go, I'm still. Still standing. I'm. I'm still one of the, you know, dopest comics out there. Right. That you are. Yeah. Nobody really gave a. Somebody. Well, we appreciate you too, Donnell. Thank you for joining us this morning. Your man said he'd give you his flower. I. That's my guy. And don't even mention him one time because we didn't. We said we know what we do. Well done, rollers. Thank you for these beautiful sneakers that you gave us today. Do a close up on them. We're going to put them up there. We put them up there. This is crazy. Look, that's. That's behind. Shoulder made like this. Look at this one. Crazy. Oh, my God. Your daughters on there. That's cute. That's not my daughters. That's me and Charlemagne. Oh, it's the Breakfast Club. It's down now, Rollins. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you. Hold up. Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club. Y' all finished or y' all done? The Super Secret Bestie Club podcast, season four is here, and we're locked in. That means more Juicy Cheeseman, terrible love advice, evil spells to cast on your ex. No, no, we're not doing that this season. Oh, well, this season we're leveling up. 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