Best of full interview: Nate Jackson On Mastering Crowd Work, New Netflix Special, 'The Office' Spinoff, Gary Owen + More

Summary

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The Breakfast Club Best Of: Nate Jackson on Mastering Crowd Work, New Netflix Special, ‘The Office’ Spinoff, Gary Owen + More

Airdate: December 30, 2025
Podcast: The Breakfast Club | iHeartPodcasts
Hosts: Charlamagne Tha God, Jess Hilarious, DJ Envy
Guest: Nate Jackson

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Episode Overview

This best-of episode spotlights comedian Nate Jackson, highlighting his journey from crowd warm-up to Netflix special, his rise in the comedy scene, crowd work mastery, opening Super Funny Comedy Club, social media strategies, his part in ‘The Office’ universe spinoff, and professional and personal insights. The hosts delve into the changing comedy landscape, creative risks, and Black entrepreneurship, while also getting candid and comedic about the industry’s evolving standards.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Nate Jackson’s Introduction and Rise

• Who is Nate Jackson?

  • “I guess TI Dubbed me the king of crowd work. I’m an entrepreneur, I own the biggest black owned comedy club in the country.” (05:26, Nate Jackson)
  • Built Tacoma’s Super Funny Comedy Club (2021) from the ground up during COVID with no government assistance, now thriving in a prime location.

• Early Hustle and Career Longevity

  • More than two decades in comedy: “I’ve been... at it for a minute.” (07:11, Nate Jackson)
  • Started with crowd warm-up jobs and grinding in the Pacific Northwest.
  • “I was the little guy, man. I came up under Wendy and I grinded. I got it out the mud.” (08:13, Nate Jackson)

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Mastery of Crowd Work

• Defining “Crowd Work” and Reputation

  • TI dubbed him "the king of crowd work."
  • “That’s what the crowd work is. You’re writing on the spot, so just switch it up.” (11:45, Nate Jackson)
  • Recalls working Hip Hop Squares, yearning for an on-screen spot while being told, “entertain the crowd. Which is mad humbling.” (07:44, Nate Jackson)
  • Hosts compare comics who rely on crowd work to “lazy” — to which Nate rebuffs: “Let me see what you doing...I see why you think it’s lazy, but I put the work.” (45:46, Nate Jackson)

• Notable Crowd Work Moments

  • Big Mac security roast: “You was like, get mad at me. I’m not the one who fed you.” (15:55, Charlamagne/Nate Jackson)
  • Risks: “It’s risky doing crowd work…that was $246,000. And I’m gonna go up and I don’t know what I’m gonna say, but…” (29:07, Nate Jackson)

• Handling the Room

  • Created the “Roast Zone” at his shows—front rows pay for the chance to get roasted. “They’d be mad if I don’t get ‘em.” (48:36, Nate Jackson)
  • Hasn’t had a real confrontation due to reading body language and crowd vibe:
    • “90% of it is reading body language…now I should never have to deal with it.” (48:36, Nate Jackson)

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Navigating Sensitive Topics & Cancel Culture

• Navigating Offense and Boundaries

  • "At a point, people are like, I don’t even care what he's talking about no more… I want everybody to laugh first." (12:07, Nate Jackson)
  • “If you are gonna say anything that’s gonna be even a little bit controversy, it has to be funny.” (13:49, Co-host/Charlamagne/ Nate)
  • “I think we’re shifting back some... people like Schultz and people like Chappelle... comedy first, then we’ll talk about what’s next.” (13:06, Nate Jackson)

• Jokes on Real Life & Community

  • Discusses weight loss journey candidly and incorporates it into new material: “It was more about weight loss jokes and temptation, and you could have that at any weight.” (11:45, Nate Jackson)
  • Stays away from divisive politics, focuses on universal laughter and love.

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Netflix Special: “Super Funny” (and Beyond)

• How the Special Happened

  • Built brand via social and crowd work; Netflix came via a licensing deal: “They didn’t know it was (going to be) all crowd work... If the person has 19 hours of it... okay, all right.” (30:47, Nate Jackson)
  • Intended for his mother to watch in comfort:

    “My mama getting older ... Netflix came on their old ass smart TV...this is how my mama’s gonna see me and be comfortable.” (31:46, Nate Jackson)

• Standout Special Moments

  • “Do you remember when you called that couple Seal and Heidi?” (31:16, Charlamagne)
  • “Sometimes God just give you one.” (31:19, Nate Jackson)

• Results and Impact

  • “It did massive... I’m getting stopped by people in airports, and that was happening before. So I’m trying to gauge, like, so where you see me from?” (27:38, Nate Jackson)

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Social Media & The New Comedy Era

• Strategy and Reluctance

  • Initially resisted but learned the power of TikTok and YouTube: “I’m exhausted right now. I’m not getting another app... But (crowd work) started to catch.” (23:48, Nate Jackson)
  • Now at 4.5M+ TikTok followers: “It jumped for me, like from zero to 25,000 in, like, a month.” (25:03, Nate Jackson)

• Crowd Work Clips: The New Algorithm Gold

  • “Anybody watching your stream ... can make a 60 second clip... you want the clips—YouTube, Facebook, Instagram...” (58:25–58:43, Nate Jackson)
  • Observes how IRL clips drive engagement far more than traditional sketches or long-form.

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Collaboration, Gary Owen + Podcasting

• Gary Owen Collaboration

  • They co-hosted “Gary and Nate” podcast—now ending due to scheduling.
  • Gently jokes about Gary “taking his style” on crowd work: “Good for Gary, man, I love that he’s getting traction because Gary’s hella funny.” (41:13, Nate Jackson)

• Professional Generosity

  • “It’s my nature to want to see those around me do well ... but they would get on and then everybody got amnesia.” (39:09, Nate Jackson)
  • Calls for more collaboration and credit in the industry.

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“The Office” Spinoff: “The Papers”

• Role and Production
  • Nate plays a prominent part in “The Papers,” set in “The Office” universe—launching September 4.
  • “I wouldn’t necessarily call it a spinoff … but some of the characters are the same and there’s a serious NDA.” (50:07, Nate Jackson)
  • Praises Greg Daniels and the meticulous writing/comedy process: “They take every moment and ... manicure it to be as funny as it can be, even though it’s as dry. But it’s hilarious.” (52:54, Nate Jackson)

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Black Business & Comedy Clubs

• Ownership Advocacy
  • Calls for more Black-owned comedy clubs; only three major ones exist.
  • “Why doesn't Martin have Wanda's? ... Why isn’t there a Kevin Hart comedy club? ... It makes no sense that we don’t have more brick and mortars.” (60:41–61:51, Nate Jackson)
  • Cites examples: Joe Rogan’s “Mothership,” Dave Chappelle’s club—calls for “85 Comedy Clubs.”
  • “Let’s expand and grow our industry because the people want to come to shows and then you control the buck, you control the dollar.” (62:00, Nate Jackson)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Weight Loss and Comedy:

  • “I want to see where my dick connect to my body.” (10:44, Nate Jackson)

• On Getting Out the Mud in Comedy:

  • “I’m your excited, huggable gangster cousin.” (05:33, Nate Jackson)

• On Sensitivity vs. Funny:

  • “If you are gonna say anything that’s gonna be even a little bit controversy, it has to be funny.” (13:49, Co-host)

• On the Value of Crowd Work:

  • “Let me see what you doing. I see why you think it’s lazy, but I put the work…” (45:46, Nate Jackson)

• On Building for His Mom:

  • “This is how my mama’s gonna see me and be comfortable.” (31:46, Nate Jackson)

• On Comedy Ownership:

  • “Let’s get to 85 comedy clubs... control the buck, control the dollar.” (62:00, Nate Jackson)

• On Leaving a Legacy:

  • “The entertainers that are watching, man, what’s up? Open something. Let’s get some comedy back on regular TV … you deserve to laugh, so do it.” (63:33–63:59, Nate Jackson)

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Additional Important Segments & Timestamps

• Nate’s Hip-Hop Squares Experience (07:14–09:25)
• Weight Loss & Health Motivation (09:58–11:27)
• TikTok and Social Media Growth (23:47–26:11)
• Podcast with Gary Owen, Collaboration and Falling Out (39:09–44:13)
• Crowd Work Hosting Techniques & “Roast Zone” (48:36–49:35)
• Show Business Insights – “The Papers,” “Good Fortune” Movie (50:04–64:55)

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Final Thoughts and What Nate Wants New Fans to Know

• On His Impact and Hopes for New Audiences:
  • “I got a new top five. ... Basketball got new stars … I would like to see some of the OG black comics ... reach back and create opportunities.” (60:24–61:32, Nate Jackson)
  • “Live your life to the fullest, you know? … You deserve to laugh. So do it.” (63:34, Nate Jackson)

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Find Nate Jackson

• Website: NateJacksonComedy.com
• Instagram: @MrNateJackson
• TikTok: NateJacksonComedy

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Episode Note:
A lively, honest, and inspiring conversation about mastery, innovation, and resilience in modern comedy, with a generous helping of jokes, realness, and business wisdom.

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[Nate Jackson]

I'm doing good. How about yourself?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't come. Don't look over here. Get grinning and smiling, looking for material.

[Nate Jackson]

I swear to God, I'm not even on that right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, right.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

We see my mind going already.

[Nate Jackson]

Nah. This is my first time on Breakfast Club. I'm like, yo, that's crazy. He just thought, yep. This was like, it's happening. That's what I'm on.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

What's up man? How you doing?

[Nate Jackson]

I'm doing good, man.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Things going crazy Congratulations.

[Nate Jackson]

Thank you so much.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

I love that. I love to see when we like us, when we get specials.

[Nate Jackson]

You proud of me?

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Yes, I'm proud of you.

[Nate Jackson]

Thank you. Are you kidding me?

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Thank you.

[Nate Jackson]

I watched a video with the flickering and you came down the hallway and then disappeared in the chair. I was like, thank you, Nate. Thank you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

For the people who don't know or who may not be familiar. Who is Nate Jackson?

[Nate Jackson]

I guess TI Dubbed me the king of crowd work. I'm an entrepreneur on the biggest black owned comedy club in the country.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Super Funny Comedy Club.

[Nate Jackson]

There you go. In Tacoma, Washington, I'm a guy that got it out the mud from the very bottom and scraped my way up to a Netflix special that was in the top 10 and peaked at number three and did extremely well for the platform. And there's a lot coming. There's TV shows, there's movies, and so I'm excited. That's who I am. I mean, I. I'm. I'm your excited, huggable gangster cousin.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

People that probably don't, you know, might have thought you came out of nowhere. Like, you got the Super Funny comedy club in 2021, right?

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah. Well, basically, we were building it, and then the news was saying that Covert.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was co. Was coming.

[Nate Jackson]

Okay, which is. Which is. Which is it's hard enough to build a place, let alone watch the news and be like, I don't think it's gonna come over. I don't think it's gone. If you remember, Seattle's where it first touched down. The United States. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. As soon as it was like, I think it was Everett, Washington or something, it was like two hours north. I was like, oh, this is a wrap.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So that might have been a blessing then a few, you know, some PPP loans.

[Nate Jackson]

No, because you had to be open for like a year to get. Yeah, we had. We had no help.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You couldn't lie like everybody else, man.

[Nate Jackson]

I tried. I tried to create. I was a. I was. I have an auto detail business. I have. I have a dog grooming business. Will you me. I clean shoes. I was coming up with everything. All of them were like, nothing was working. So, no, we just fought on our own. We just fought it. You know what I'm saying? And. And survived. And so we were at the first location for five years. Now we're at a brand new location downtown on the Marriott block from Tacoma. You know, but it's. It's. It's. That's it. Like, this is. This is it for my city. We're in the most peak spot, best location it could be. And now it's like we're thriving like crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you're a veteran, though. You've been doing comedy for like 26 years.

[Nate Jackson]

20. Somewhere between 23 and 24.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah, yeah, for sure. I've been. I've been. That's what I'm saying. I've been at it for a minute. You know what? We've met before and it's worth me talking about for a second. Charlemagne. So I was working with Jesse Collins Entertainment as a crowd warm up and they did this show, Hip Hop Hollywood Squares.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah, I remember that.

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah. And Jess was a square and D.C. was the square. And other like cast members from Wild N Out and stuff were squares.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's when D Ray was hosting it.

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah. Okay. And I really wanted to be in a square. Like when soundstage would be empty, I'd be sitting in a square and like to the point where they like over headsets, like, that was like Nate Jackson out of the square. Like just total rejection. Yeah. Like, this is for stars. Entertain the crowd. Which is mad humbling. Right? Like, I've been won the bay all the accolades and stuff, and I'm looking at who my peers are and I'm like, I've. I've. I've. You cuss on here. Yeah, yeah. Like I. With all of them, but goddamn. You can't get a square. Let me get just like one of them shitty episodes, like episode 14 out of 15 that y' all don't threw to the low budget one. You know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[Nate Jackson]

Man, they put me out the chair. So we were on a break in between two segments. And I was so upset. This day, man, you have one of them days where you like, man, all this. Yeah, that's what I was on. And Tip was like in the top left square. And I had. Me. We had met before and he told me to put. He was like, play. You wanted me to play juvenile. You see that? 98 degrees.

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Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

So I played that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I remember the day now you talking about.

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah, yeah. And so he was up there. So you, at the end of the break, you're like, come here. You know. So Tip was like doing that. And then I came down and you. You were either on the bottom one or the left one, but you were right there and you were like, yo, like, you're killing it. I was like, excuse me. And you were like, dog, I. With like the. I can't remember exactly what you said, but you're like, I with, like, you know, the crowd work guys. I with the little guy. Because I was the little guy, man. I came up under Wendy and I grinded. I got it out the mud. So when I see y', all, I watch. I was like, you don't even know what that did for me that day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Nate Jackson]

And I'm just telling you the little things like that. I was like, you know what? Let me just play my role. Let me do my. And let me just. You know what I'm saying? But that was actually. That. That was heavy that day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I remember that day because when 400 degrees came on, all of us. That's from the south started rapping it like, right, Everybody, I'm a leak shit and talk rap like, that was a great day.

[Nate Jackson]

See the 98 Mercedes on TV about that. And I looked up in all nine squares is rock. I was like, okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I remember you doing the crowd work, but I remember you being a little bit bigger.

[Nate Jackson]

Okay?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, I respected it.

[Nate Jackson]

I remember you being bigger, too, nigga. Damn it, man. What is that? Welcome to the Don't Eat Breakfast Club because we're trying to lose weight. Yeah, man, I went fruit and veggie raw at the on May 1, and I lost 38.5 pounds. So I'm just, like, melting. And so now I'm like, trying to introduce, you know, some white meats back and whatever, just. Cause I was like, man, there's too much chicken going by. Everybody like, yeah, yeah, we eating, but you not. So I basically just eat around the outside of the grocery stor stay out the middle. And so I've just been melting away. Was it a scare or you just wanted to get healthier or the reason why. I want to see where my dick connect to my body.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Nate Jackson]

See my eyes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, that makes sense.

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah. I have a joke about it. I'm like, I can see the first seven inches, but that first five. I can't see that part. So that's a joke. But, no, I just wanted to lose some weight, man. I had. We lost, Teddy Ray. We lost.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was gonna let him go. Now we're laughing at that Now I'm laughing. I'm still laughing at the dick joke.

[Nate Jackson]

So, yeah, he did the math. Big joke.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Then start shouting out, rest in peace, Teddy Ray.

[Nate Jackson]

Them had dicks, too. The. No, anyway, I only see for a seven and a half and half, but rest in peace is always over, man.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

But you know what? I noticed in your special, you talk about it a lot. Your weight and eating, and you got a Lot of food jokes or whatever.

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah, I did, like, four minutes of it to just break the ice.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah, for sure. And then they're like, well, that's what we gonna take for the. For the national clip. That's gonna be your trailer. I'm like, oh, okay. So now I'm okay. What about all the other stuff I said?

[Co-host/Interviewer]

But how does it impact now? Because now you, you know, you lost. Lost a lot of weight, and, you know, I'm guessing you're still coming down, right? So how does that affect your comedy now? Like, you still doing the food jokes?

[Nate Jackson]

You can. I mean, it was not. I don't have. I had food jokes, but it was more about weight loss jokes and temptation, and you could have that at any weight. I'm saying, like, it was. It was crafted where I was like, I think I'm losing weight, but I can still get these jokes off. You know? I mean, but at the end of the day, I write a lot, and that's what. That's what. That's what the crowd work is. You're writing on the spot, so just switch it up. Is there anything that you stay away from? Like, you know, because I feel like the world is so sensitive now. Like, you say one thing, oh, we're gonna cancel you. Is there anything that you stay away from? Or you'd be like, it? I kind of am with everything, but I will. I will tread lightly around, you know, some politics stuff. Because this. They just been so. It's so magnetized, you know, At a point, people are like, I don't even care what he's talking about no more, because he's not. He's obviously not. And I'm like, man, just chill out. I want everybody to laugh first. That's why it's called super funny. I wasn't. That's the theme of the show. Love. Love hard. Eat good and laugh. Laugh to your fullest. So that's the thing. That's what it is. I was gonna say, do you think people miss the funny and things because they want to cancel you? They are looking for something to be hurt or affected by. Because I remember one time you just laughed. It wasn't. It could be a black joke, a white joke, a gay joke, a straight joke. It didn't matter if it was funny. It was fun. But now I feel like people look for something to be like, I'm gonna cancel you off that word right there, you know?

[Sponsor Announcer]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

Depending on the word, but. Yeah. Or the term or the joke. I think it depends on how you Saying it right? Like, what I. What I can stand the least is when a comic takes the time to craft a beautiful joke. And I mean, a beautiful joke where it like, meanders and then you get hit with the punchline and then you still be like, but the topic was da, da da. Hey, man, chill out. That's a good ass joke. Also, I think we're shifting back some, and I don't want to say it on a platform so big that people are like, oh, you think we won't cancel you too? I don't need that smoke. But I'm just saying I think there's been a shift since, I don't know, maybe 20, 19, 2020, definitely. You know what I'm saying? And. And so there's been some pushback. People like Schultz and people like Chappelle that are like, I'm man, all that comedy first, then we'll talk about what's next. That's right.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

That's the key to that though, right? Like, if you are gonna say anything that's gonna be even a little bit controversy, it has to be funny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Have to be funny so people can't be.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

It gotta be so funny to the point where they only want cancel you, man. That is funny, right?

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah. I had a joke about a Vietnamese car dealer. And it sounds ridiculous, but I'm from Tacoma, Washington, and we kick it with the Vietnamese, Cambodians, Samoans, black people. We all. Everyone's all. We all mix. And so when you go gamble, the dealer gonna be Vietnamese. And they were teaching me words. And so I started picking up on the dialect to be like. And stuff like that. So I had this joke. Oh, that means you. And so I picked up on that. This is fuck you, and umayma is fuck your mama. And then the Cambodians, they be like. Or something like that. And that means like, pussy ass. So they say that a lot. And I just started hearing it, not knowing what it was. I'm like, why y' all keep saying Duma? What is Duma? And they're like, oh, yeah. I mean, fuck you. I'm like, what the fuck? So I wrote a joke about how I had found out, but I put it after I hit a jackpot. So basically she was calling me Bow Bow, which was my interpretation of her saying nigga to my face. And I didn't know. So I slowly reveal that they've been being racist to me. And then I get her some get back the dealer. And I'd say, she acts black. So she. I said, well, okay, you act black, then and she's like, I don't know my father. I'm like, bitch, that's not what the. I was listening for an accent. What are you supposed to sound black? James, stop it. Stop, stop, stop.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's a lady in there that's. She tried to act like.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Now she about to come in like, duma, Duma.

[Nate Jackson]

That's messed up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That shit triggered her.

[Nate Jackson]

I'm so sorry, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was watching one of your specials before, one of your crowd work specials, man. There was a fat dude in the crowd. The fat dude named Big Mac. That dude security. I don't know if you remember, but the dude was like. He said something to you, and you was like, get mad at me. I'm not the one who fed you.

[Nate Jackson]

I didn't make you bite all that. People be in the comments like, pot calling the kettle black. I'm like, nah, that's a little pot calling a big ass kettle black. But the point of the Vietnamese joke was that same joke, JFL was like, we can't have you up here because you saying that joke. I'm like, did you listen to it? Right? So I just got back from. I came straight from Montreal here. Oh. To where I have my own show. I had, like, I. I did variety top 10.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Yes.

[Nate Jackson]

I got that this year. And so. But. But it brings it full circle to be like, you know, I almost. I was like, I should do the joke. But.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

You know what I'm saying? But they showed me so much love. I was like, you know what? I'm not gonna be bitter. That's because I can't.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Funny.

[Nate Jackson]

You should have if it's funny now. If I just came out, like, Vietnamese sound crazy. And I just start cussing like, I'm like, that. That is. Yes, you overstepping.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

You know what I'm saying? But no, I. And that's my pet peeve. Like, if somebody. If you can. You can hear the intellect in the joke and the setup and be like, oh, that was good misdirection to hear that. Like, nah. It's like how some older black people. Like, I didn't even have fun because he cussed 14 times. He's in there counting exactly, man. Listen to the show.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. Listen to give people the story. So you went from. You're doing the warm up, warming up the crowd at the hip hop squares. But I know you ended up on Wild and Out. Like, how did all of those stuff. Things happen?

[Nate Jackson]

Oh, my goodness. That. That's not my start. My start. I just got dared to do Comedy while I was in college and I went on stage and I was like, oh, this was kind of good. And so I stuck with it. And then I moved immediately to la, and I was there for, like, six years, and then I was like, I need to go home and stack some bread. So I started, like, 12 shows, and then I combined it into one show, and it was like, the biggest show. It was like, Thursday night was like, 420 people for, like, eight years. It was massive. And in Seattle. In Tacoma. In Tacoma, Yeah, Downtown Tacoma. And if it's really like, 80 people every Thursday, in case the IRS is listening. So it was like. It was hella. But then I stacked and came back, and so then different opportunities started to kind of come together, and so I had an opportunity to work with Jesse Collins Entertainment, and that's how I did the crowd work. And I think it was just a plug from D Ray.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Nate Jackson]

Because, you know, I do Monday nights at the Improv, and D Ray looks out. Shout out to D Ray. And so that's how I got into that. But the way Hollywood, man, you'll have a day where you're like, yo, I made it. Yeah. You'll be standing on a table, fist pumping the air between Tony Rock and Chris Rock, it like. You know what I'm saying? Like, what it would feel like a million bucks. And then the next day, you're like, damn, I gotta perform in this dungeon. Yeah, it's not. It's not. It's up that. But you gotta do it all. And so you know that that's essentially why I was where I was. I was like, man, I just can't get a damn. I got wilding out. Bet I do four episodes. Niall says I look old. I'm like, corey Holcomb is here. How the. I look old. And no shade. No shade. But I'm just saying, don't say I look old.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I said, you look old.

[Nate Jackson]

No, he. Yeah, like, I waited to get on the show for six years. Yeah, I look old now. What the. Give me a part of my hair. Let me rock. And then every game was rapping. I'm like, we can't just do no. Oh, right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You just mean funny.

[Nate Jackson]

They would have a game like, all right, this is what we gonna do. You're gonna roast this thing. We, like, bet all the comments like, hell, yeah, Nick, be in the corner like, you know what it needs? Bars. Just get out the way. Turn the clips, man. Go ahead, man. God damn, here come Justina. Go ahead, man. I'm like, that's not my bag. I'll learn it, but that ain't my bad.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You only did four episodes of Wilding Out.

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah, I did four, but they were big ones, though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got you guys.

[Nate Jackson]

They were big ones, though. Like, I did Erica Badu episode. We did. Cuz I can sing too. So we did the. The Revenge of Tyrone, where she did the follow up to Call Tyrone. And then I did the Travis Scott episode. And then I did the one where the dude had hella kids. But then he said, we can't talk about the kids. Nick. Nick Cannon. No, no, it was somebody with more, I think Cromarty. Oh, Antonio Cromarti. Yeah. That's all we want to talk about. Like, you got a million kids. He was like, anything. But the kids were like, well, then go home, because.

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[Nate Jackson]

Yeah. So I did some good, I'm saying. And so I like that. You know what? I think the reason I only got the four. And I'd like to say this on this platform. On the Erykah Badu episode, she came and she was like, yo, let me meet the people. I'm gonna be on the episode with me and 85 south guys all stood around on the soundstage with Niall, and she's like, here's what I think we should do. And I ran down the games. Here's what we gonna do. Freestyle from there. She's like, okay, I'm going to my dressing room. I want. I want one of the brighter ones to come with me now. I'm standing up there with one episode under my belt. She's like, you. What's your name? I'm like, nate Jackson. She's like, you. You tell me what's going on here? And I was like. I was like, hey, Carlos, can you come with me? So I grabbed Carlos. We go down. She's like, there's gonna be a part where I go down to my knee and I'm singing real hard. I want you to put my jacket on me like James Brown. I'm gonna throw it off and come back like a phoenix, and I'm gonna kill it. I'm like, bet that part of the show happens. I walk out, I put the thing on her. Everything happens as planned. After it's over, execs come up and they're like, who the told you to walk out? Sorry. What? Wow. Erykah Badu did Erica Badu told you to walk out? Yeah, she said, throw the thing on her. Why do you. What you thought I just over. Just came out the. I know I'm barely welcome Here. Why would I put. Yeah. Mess up your million dollar moment. You know what I'm saying? And so that's when it was like I was on ice. But it only takes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But the show is in really. So even if you did do that and it worked, who cares?

[Nate Jackson]

Come on, man, think. Put, put the other hat on you exact. You put your bag in the Erica being on episode. Here come one of your little. Doing anything in frame. Yeah.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

That she asked to do that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh.

[Nate Jackson]

Specifically. And I even remember being like, I, I. Somebody was next to me. I was like, hey, she said to throw the thing. You want to go out? And they were like, well, no, man, I don't want to go. I was like, okay. Well, she asked like, I'm not gonna, I don't want to not do it. Then after she like, where was the, with the. I was waiting. Yeah, man, Nick is like Batman. You see Nick there and then ninja smoke. Hello, Nick. When the last time you seen Nick?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Playing cards.

[Nate Jackson]

Playing cards on the Internet. I have not seen that in person.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Kidding me.

[Nate Jackson]

He's just in a garage door doing upside down sit ups. You don't never see Nick. He got too many shows. Shooting six shows. That's crazy. I could not believe, bro. He shot like a vlog, a desus and Mero thing. He shot wilding out, then he went to agt, then he shot a car show. Then I was like, this is tired. Yes. No, see Nick win with the successor of of social media for you. How did that affect. Did that happen because you planned it out or were people just taking clips and you were just like, what the going on? No, man, I've been grinding for a minute. And so that's what I was saying when I had the Thursday night for so many years, you could come to the Pacific Northwest and be like, okay, there's a guy up there that got the sauce right. And so what happens a lot of times if somebody's further in their career than you, they'd be like, let me just get a little bit of that and take that with me. So there was a lot of my recipe out ahead of me before I had the exposure. They're stealing your stuff, you know? Yeah, they were stealing your stuff. Hey, man, I don't want to call nobody no thief without them here to defend themselves, you know what I'm saying? And also to be choked or whatever happens after that. No, they don't have to. There's ways to catch people. All I had to do was wait, be patient, work hard. Like you said, the Netflix Special speaks for itself. It's like watching Elvis for years, and then you see the dude who showed him the legs, like, oh, them that got the legs. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So that made me forget the damn. One of the homies. Not one of the homies. Several people like Matt Rife, Roy Wood, and Rodney Perry. They were all like. And shout out to Rodney Perry, but they're like, yo, you need to get on. Get on tick tock. And I was like, I'm exhausted right now. I'm not getting another app. You know how that feels?

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[Nate Jackson]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right?

[Nate Jackson]

We're like, hey, get on, get on. Do the blue bloom. You're like, I'm not getting on. Do the boom bloom. Like, I'm done. I'm happy with my IG Set up my Facebook. Cool. I'm not hiring a to put me on doodle bloom bloom. And that's how it sound when you first hear it, because it's always a. It's something else. You got popping. Yeah. You on the T app right now. They got my house address and my goddamn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You want a T?

[Nate Jackson]

Not that I know of. Not that I know of.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Unless somebody posts Nate Jackson on the.

[Nate Jackson]

T app, man, I'm not on there. Neither is her dad. I'm so wild. Wow, this is a tough room. The post post them on there. Maybe they'll tell you where he is. Oh, God damn.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Yes, it is.

[Nate Jackson]

Okay. Wasn't dancing on that guy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's away from her. He's fine.

[Nate Jackson]

But no, I said, I don't want to do another app. And so I. I got on reluctantly. I got on tick tock. And I don't know if it's still exactly like this, but at the time, like, people were willing to actually follow because people's IG be set up. You're like, I ain't fine. Somebody got a really. Somebody gotta. You got to see 12 good things. When somebody be like, you know what? I'm gonna give you a like on.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

On TikTok. It just felt like, hi, I'm follow. You know what I'm saying? So it jumped for. It jumped for me, like, from zero to, like 25,000 in, like, I don't know, I'd say a month.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And what was you posting? This crowd work?

[Nate Jackson]

No, I was posting anything, but I didn't want to show no stand up. You know what I'm saying? And plus, I was like. I was trying to shoot it, and I would shoot good, and then the sound be up or the sound be good, and Then the shot be up. Then I just committed to it and got the. The system down at my own club. And then I was like, okay, now I can consistently do stuff. But it. At the time, there was no apps for captioning or AI, so you had to actually sit there and transcribe yourself. It took three, four hours to do a two minute video. And so I was like, I'm exhausted doing this shit. But it paid you though, right? No, all this is free. Oh, but I could look on the app and see, like other people exploding where I'm like, okay, if I post my shit, because I already know I'm great at. Yeah, if that. If that worked. If that clip. I just saw work and I know what I'm holding. If I could just post this. You know what I'm saying? And so it just started to catch. And so it kept catching. It kept catching and kept. And so now we're at 4.5, maybe 4.6 million or something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You think that era is dead? Because I feel like there was a moment where it was like the you and the Matt Rice and the Andrew Schultzes that was just putting their comedy up and it just, just took off for them. I don't know if it was Kobe because everybody was sitting around. I don't know what it was, but something just caused comedians to take off because of social media.

[Nate Jackson]

Well, it wasn't. It wasn't covered for me. I was trying to save my club. Yeah, yeah, that wasn't it. I didn't get to post it until, like, right after. I was like, all right, we can finally open and get situated. No, I don't think it's. I don't think that's over. I think people's interest to be entertained is. I would say it's limitless. They say during the Great Depression when everybody broke, the last thing people spent money on was going to theaters and stuff.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

Like, if I'm gonna go out, I'm go out having fun.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

So, no, I don't think. I think it's an insatiable. Doesn't it feel like it? Like no matter how much content you make, there's somebody to receive it and they're gonna give me more. So no, I feel like just be consistent and be good and be good consistently. And I think people find you, like, people just need to use the Internet as a talent show and that's it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's had more impact on your career? The YouTube crowd, work stuff or the Netflix special?

[Nate Jackson]

That's not fair because Netflix has only Been on since the 8th.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got you.

[Nate Jackson]

But I know I've. I've had my. Because when you do a special, you get to have a conversation at, I think, 10 days and then another one at 28 days about the numbers. Other than that, you guys know Netflix don't share no numbers like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

And so my first conversation with them, it was. It did massive. Like, it. It's like double platinum. Like, it did really good on the platform. And I'm getting stopped by people in airports, and that was happening before. So I'm trying to gauge, like, so where you see me from, where you see. And they won't admit, like, everybody want to be. I've been following you since wiling out. I'm like, what episode?

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Just lying.

[Nate Jackson]

Nobody want to say, like, hey, man, I saw you last night. I mean, I called it super funny. Like my trademarked comedy club name and brand. So that even if you didn't know me, you go super funny. Show me. Yeah, right. And it's. It's going crazy right now. So if you want to laugh, go watch that. But I got to show that it's not just crowd work. I got to show, you know, 24 years of chops or whatever. And so you see it all. You see if you watch a stand, a standalone clip, you're assuming that that's that. But the real epiphany is like, wait, all that's one show? All that strings together, all that somehow. And. And stand. And he's doing some singing. And it, like. So I wanted to just give everything in my. In my toolbox and. And throw it out there. And we caught it. And it's risky. It's risky doing crowd work on a. You know, that was $246,000. And I'm gonna go up and I don't know what I'm gonna say, but you get Comic view. And they're like, we want your jokes in paragraph form. You know, every single. What you gotta. You gotta write down your little five minutes and send it in, and they approve it. But for this court, over a quarter million dollars, I'm like, man, just press record. We're gonna see what happens. And we got. We caught it, but it was risky. And it's risky every time you do it because you in charge of your set, and then. And. And you going. A certain cadence, and then you slow down to be like, so tell me something about yours. And now they all. They didn't. The whole groove up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

You know what I'm saying? And so. But I. I Went for it. And, and what you see on. On Netflix, we caught it. Yeah.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

I'm saying, how did that, how did that come about, though? How did, how did Netflix end up the place to land?

[Nate Jackson]

So let me. I'll answer that for sure, because this is. I'm crazy about that answer. But then on the other side of the coin is what I can control is the crowd work joints. I walk out, it's first Wednesdays at my club, one or two shows, and I'm. And the challenge was you can only talk about what's in front of you or what you've seen that day. And I got to do an hour. So I go up with nothing and I come off. And so there's 24 of those now, and every one is somewhere around 1.5 to 2.5 million views. And so it's the only place where I explain, like, the rules that I do when I say. So when I'm in live shows and theaters and I start saying the rule, they're finishing my sentences. So I think the crowd work joints is what got me to the point that the Netflix special was possible to then go boom on this platform where everybody goes, this is, this is where you put your. Your best. And I. And I did. So now people like, oh, I thought he was just a tick tock guy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm shocked Netflix did that, though. I mean, because based off watching your specials, I'm shocked that they chose to invest in something like that. Like, oh, is it gonna be an hour of just crowd work? Even though the crowd work is funny as.

[Nate Jackson]

No, they didn't know it was a licensing deal. Got you better at a licensing deal. And I, I've done. They've. I've had to present my comedy to Netflix or somebody like Netflix or Netflix associated in that sphere, whether it was just crowd work, whether it was, you know what I'm saying? But then if you're not sure if the crowd work's gonna work well, but the person has 20, I think 19 hours of it. At that point, you got 19 hours of crowd work. And then I'm missing like, okay, all right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do you remember when you called that couple Seal and Heidi?

[Nate Jackson]

Boom. Sometimes God just give you one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're like, how'd y' all meet? She was like, well, I was. I was dating somebody he knew and she was dating somebody I knew, and both of them went to jail. I'm like, what the.

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah, but it was a. It was a brother that looked like steel and a big white girl with, I think, cornrows or something. I was like, Seal and Heidi. Boom. Because she was big. But so. So to answer your question, you basically said, why Netflix?

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

So it's simple for me. But like, so my mama getting older and she has an office downstairs at our house in Lacey, Washington, and she got to go down these steps, to go down in this cold ass basement and turn on an area heater to get on Netflix or to get on any streaming platform. But Netflix came on their old ass smart tv, which is dumb now, but that was the one. I was like, it's a smart tv. Netflix built in so she'll watch Netflix. And from the comfort of the couch, fireplace and all that. So for me, I was like, this is how my mama's gonna see me and be comfortable.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, wow. Wow.

[Nate Jackson]

So you pair with all the other stuff you know about Netflix, and it kind of makes sense. But if they're not gonna give me a deal, it's like, I gotta go to wherever. Yeah, but that's why I was like, I could just stick it on YouTube with the crowd. Work joints where there's now 750,000 people. I think that would land well. But let's see if we can get traction with them. Because just literally, I was on calls with agency. They're like, what do you. What platform? I'm like, netflix. Why? My mama can't watch this shit.

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[Nate Jackson]

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[Nate Jackson]

Like, I need her in the living room being like, my baby did it. I need that. Yeah, and that's what we did.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Gary Owen about to write that down. He gonna try to use that to get his Netflix special.

[Nate Jackson]

Finally.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, Gary can't get a Netflix special for nothing.

[Nate Jackson]

We got a podcast together. No, watch. Fuck, I ain't know that we got a podcast, Gary.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What podcast you and Gary got together?

[Nate Jackson]

It's called Gary and Nate.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I did not know that. I know. Gary had a podcast.

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah, he got what just called Gary Owen. Yes. And I got my own. Hold on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's funny as. So you got a Netflix special. How did you break the news to Gary?

[Nate Jackson]

Right after he told me that they turned him down. Damn. But I didn't mean to say it that way, though. Like, he was like, hey, man, I'm waiting to find out about Netflix now. I had already knew, like, I might be riding third on mine. And so I just had to sit there and he told me the whole thing. Like, yeah, man, I'm ready for it to get on there, man. I don't know what it's about. And I was like, man, maybe, you know, just keep chugging along, brother.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You didn't want to give him your good news yet.

[Nate Jackson]

I had to wait. I had to wait till like the. The moment of like, like, yeah. And I was like, you want to hear something crazy, man? But you can't. You can't go. You can't act stupid, though. You can't tell nobody. No, you can't say you can't act stupid. He was like, ah, what you got? What you got? And I was like, yeah, yeah. Netflix gave me mine. He was like, that's what's up. I support that. But no, so, so, damn, he deserves one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. The podcast, you said Gary be taking your style.

[Nate Jackson]

Where you see that at your podcast. I. We talked about it live. So you saw us come to a resolution and you want to go back to when it was up and start there. We start from there, then we go to the resolution. I'll precede this with we're good. You're good. Now, what happened with Gary retaking your style? This is the thing, and it's my nature to. To. To want to see those around me do well. And I had to have a full on Epiphany in 2012 to be like, stop helping other. To help yourself. Because I was putting so much into other people's dreams. I was like, I'm tired. I ain't even do nothing for myself today. Jesus. And it's good to have a balance. But I had lost mine. Just trying to, like, I want to see. I'm helping. I'm helping. Like, at a point, I was helping young black Hollywood thrive. And then the other thing that would suck is they would get on and then everybody got amnesia. Who helped you? And I, I'm like, here we go. Here go to credits. Here I go. Here I go. Dang this. That went. He done popped and forgot your boy. And that's another reason. That's another reason why I feel some kind of way. Because the Netflix credits aren't right. Like, we got to update them. They forgot my right hand. My guy, Trenton Cotton is not. He was like, yeah, I know, I know. I'm in them. The whole thing goes by, he ain't in them. So shout out to tk but they.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Are going to fix that. You said they.

[Nate Jackson]

They can. They can update.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah. So anyway, Gary would come up to the club. He did a weekend, and the weekend went great. And I asked him to do my podcast, and we had a great episode. And then it just. It was. We just energized to where it was like, yo, we should probably do something. And then it turned into, like, are the Gary and Nate pod. And then the crowd work joints that I was putting out where I'm putting Out once a month or whatever. I, like, somebody sent me and was like, yo, Gary got these things he's doing once a month now. And I was like, well, I said, wait, what? So I didn't say nothing. I just sat on. Because we were only filming once a month.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I have been seeing Gary do more crowd work. Yeah, I'm not even joking. I have been seeing him doing.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Yeah, you'll see it. And when they explore, it just pops up.

[Nate Jackson]

Right? Yeah. Yeah.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

White people always do that to us, though.

[Nate Jackson]

Good for Gary, man. I love that he's getting traction because Gary's hella funny. He is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We love Gary, man.

[Nate Jackson]

But this story, I'mma be honest, I.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did not know y' all had a pod. I just subscribed to it. Y' all only started in November, though.

[Nate Jackson]

It's also done. We're gonna do one more episode explaining why that is over. But that is over. Please. We're done.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What? It's only been 24 episodes.

[Nate Jackson]

That's hella. But it's over now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just subscribed. Look, I literally just subscribed.

[Nate Jackson]

Click the same button.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So finish the story.

[Nate Jackson]

Subscribe to Opinionated Charlamagne. That's my podcast, Opinionated. So subscribe to Opinionated and subscribe to Gary.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Subscribe.

[Nate Jackson]

Make sure you subscribe to get some. And then Opinionated is mine.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm already subscribed.

[Nate Jackson]

There's enough out here for all of us to get it. Finish your story. It's not even a full story. God damn. Envy, Envy. Envy. Just be in the fight. Envy in the back. You ain't going to do. You ain't going to do. That's what you do. Envy. You just punk the bear. He is instigated. Listen, I rock with Gary. I have no. I have no malice. You know what I'm saying? And so he. He good. But. But not. But it's just Ann. And so I have noticed that as I'm up in the Pacific Northwest fighting for ways to be an innovator and stay relevant from way the up there and off the grid, that sometimes people come up and they're like, oh, that is. That's the sauce. You can't. I can't protect that. Whether he comes close to me and does it or stays away from me and does it. If somebody sees an editing style or a wave or, I don't know, a dress or a way somebody walks and talking, it's working. Astrologers. There's nothing you could do. He from. He from there. Well, he from Ohio. He lived this envious he's literally saying every point of contention from when we argued at the end of the day, we only were recording first Monday.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You said that to him. You said you ain't wasn't even wearing baseball jersey.

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah. Then Gary was like, look at me. At my wedding party.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

He said, look at me now.

[Nate Jackson]

You know goddamn well.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Be up here in a p like a week.

[Nate Jackson]

Gary solid. He not going to be saying and all that for anybody that's wondering where. Where I'm at on it. He good. He good. Okay. Now. But you're just not doing the podcast no more. But y' all good. No, I. I can't. It's because we do first busy. We do first Mondays. And so he'll come up and do the club and the door. Deal is. Is what makes it worth coming up. Then we record one or two or three or four episodes in one day or two, and then two. And it'd be my only two days off or maybe a 14 stretch of road gigs. I'm like, gary, I can't. I can't do it. So I'm doing. I'm doing a comedy festival the 11th through the 17th, because my birthday is the 14th in August. And so he's gonna come up and he's gonna do Monday the 11th, and then we're gonna do one more episode just as plain lightning. We're just busy.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Yeah. Where's your comedy festival is in your hometown?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

Since Tacoma.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah. So. And we got Tony Rock anchoring the weekend.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Amazing.

[Nate Jackson]

Gary will do the Monday, then I'm gonna do a Nate Jackson presents on Monday. It's one of my concepts where it's like, I'm hosting for 35, 40 minutes, and then all the acts just come out the door. You don't know who's on stage. Kind of like this chocolate Sunday, you know? Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This makes so much sense. I was listening to Gary's pod, like, last week, and I was wondering why he was just going in on people who do crowd work. He was like, people who do crowd work are lazy, and they don't really know how to write.

[Nate Jackson]

But now Gary on his pod, that sound made up. That sounds made up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah, I did make it up.

[Nate Jackson]

It's true. Hey, yo, I'm glad you seen through it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I did make that up.

[Nate Jackson]

Because here's why. Here's why it's made up, because if you do crowd work or attempt to do crowd work and you have good moments and you string them together, you already know you're using traditional standup structure. But you're plugging the information you got off the people into that. So we're writing live and on the spot. And I think that what's overlooked is the phenomena of why people are like, why crowd? Because you're in the crowd and you're hearing the response. Your brain is processing the same information, and you're like, what would I say? What was he gonna say? And every time the person you like that does. It finds an angle every like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's why it's actually funnier. It actually shows that that person is funnier because it's not something that they actually pre wrote. It's like on. In the spot, on the moment.

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah, man. Put two quotes in front and behind that, and then let's run with that one. Because there's. There is that. There is a school of thought that's like. That's. Oh, they're not working hard or they're not. They're just. They don't have jokes. So that's why they don't like, okay, one, follow me. Then two, try it. Let me see what you're doing. And I'll be like, nah, I see why you think it's lazy. But I put the work. As I said, I had a room every Thursday night. Can't know young comic, hold it down as a host, everything. You know, there's no pen in the world that can keep up with that amount of monologues. So I just started going up with nothing and with people, and it was not good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What happened?

[Nate Jackson]

It got good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What happens if there's nothing that inspires.

[Nate Jackson]

You from the crowd that I say that? Okay. I talk about how there's nothing and how when the guess who character. Nothing to talk about, slow ass answer, have an ass crowd as this. There's funny even in the lack of it, too. You know what I'm saying? I've seen somebody get roasted that had nothing wrong with them. Somebody was like, you look easy to draw. I saw that online.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I saw that. Yeah, I seen that one.

[Nate Jackson]

I was like, what are you gonna say when the person with a person's face is the magic, ain't they like, you look easy to draw. I was like, see, that's genius.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

So now there's plenty of stuff to talk about. And like I said, I can talk about anything I saw since I woke up or what's in front of me. Me. So if I got to start with whatever, like, I would have been. I would have went on stage and been like, y' all see Coldplay, y' all See the dude get caught. Like, I can talk about that at a crowd work joint. And now it's like, who in here cheating? Now we got some segues to get through. You know what I mean? But, like, it's almost a gift when you get something, you're like, oh, okay, let's cook with this, right? And I like to find a few so that I can do callbacks and have it all come together in jail together. So at the end, you're like, that was. That wasn't just. That was an experience. That wasn't just a couple of moments.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You ever had somebody roast you back, like, and actually be good like a nutty professor? When.

[Nate Jackson]

When. Who's sucking whose titties over here?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Nate Jackson]

Remember when.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You remember when Eddie went off on. When Dave Chappelle was playing the comedian and he came back as Buddy Love?

[Nate Jackson]

Buddy Love. And he went nuts and went crazy? Yeah. No, I've never had nothing that crazy happen. But I've had. I've had. I had a guy. But here's the thing. A lot of times, the person that. That wants to do that, they're not on the cadence of the show. They waiting for you to take a breath or, like, give me a segue between two things to yell out and try to the thing. But I ain't had it happen yet. What? Well, a long time ago on the Thursday night or whatever, somebody was like, man, I'm like, come up here then. And this just went back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. And I lost. And I was like, congratulations.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Was he a comedian or.

[Nate Jackson]

He's just a random guy. He beat me because he was like. He said. This is what he said. He said, your mama's so deep. I went down on her. My ears popped. Stopped.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Dang.

[Nate Jackson]

And that's what I said. And I didn't have. I was like, yep, that. That's the winner.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

You ever had anybody get mad, like, and try to fight?

[Nate Jackson]

No, because a lot. Like, to be honest with you, like, I'd say, like, 90 of it is reading body language. You kind of can look at who. Who's with this. And now. Now I don't. I should never have to deal with it because the front five to seven rows of my show is so online for more the premium, and it's called the Rose zone. So they literally. It's like the splash zone. Like, you only do that if you want to get splash. Like how Gallagher would hit the watermelons. Yeah. So if you're in the row zone, I don't Want to hear like, it is what it is. They'd be mad if I don't get. Man, this is our second time coming. You ain't get us either time, man. Come again, bro. I'll get you. You know what I'm saying? So in general. No, not now, but at the, like, if I'm just doing a show that's not mine or gigging or something, it's about like, all right, who's. Who, who's with it generally? Eye contact, smiling or at least looking, you know, definitely not big enough that I'm like, that would be. That'd be a good. That'd be a good fight. Like, I'm not looking for. I'm not. I'm not roasting somebody that I've got to tussle with. Six minutes and we don't know who won.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Big Mac was big as hell, and he said, dude, I do security.

[Nate Jackson]

Biggest. Hell, I do security. Right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He was like, why you gotta put bro on the end?

[Nate Jackson]

I could run away from him skipping. I'm not even trying to catch against me. No, that's a belly shot. We out of there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What is. What is this paper Spin off. I mean, the. The. The spin off to the Office.

[Nate Jackson]

This is good. These are really good. You guys. Do you guys just sit up here and be like, man, we good at this? Do you know you're the best.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No work. Yeah, Been doing it for a while.

[Nate Jackson]

No, you are good. Just spin. I didn't think that was in your thing. I don't know. Yeah. So the Office is coming back. Yeah. And it's called. It's called the Papers. I wouldn't necessarily call it a spinoff because it's in the same universe, the same world. Some of the characters are the same. And so there is a serious NDA around what we can say and cannot say, but it comes back on September 4th, and this shit is gonna be hilarious.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

I am very, very proud of you for doing that. You are that type of witty ass comedian that would totally be great in the Office or the Office universe.

[Nate Jackson]

So I. I love.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

That's one of my favorite shows, Modern Family, the Office. And like, I love that you are in that pocket of. And that's. That feels good to me to see that you're gonna be doing that working in a man.

[Nate Jackson]

Thank you. And I. And I'm. I'm just thankful. Yeah. But I'm in. I'm in. I think I'm in more episodes than I'm not. And more than wilding up. Yes. Because Greg Daniels can See your boy. So, yes. And there's. And once you're in a sitcom like that, there's a lot less competition, you know, I mean, like, you. You're the person you're in. This is when you get to go do your thing while. And out. It's 24 people waiting to get one spot.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

Literally, you got. You'll get the rappers, you're gonna get the. The contractor guys. Then you got the celebrity. Oh, they brought their little sister with them then. So there's two spots and there's 24 people waiting to get tapped to be against each other on the mothers. You'd be like, man, I don't know if I'm gonna get an episode, but you can see it. And then here come Michael Blackson. Wasn't even on the damn show. What's up, Madasaka? And he ends. Because he's Nick boy. He. You don't get no burn. Shout out the mic. But that's the gist. That's how you get four.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

That's how I go.

[Nate Jackson]

Then you go out and put the cape on somebody because they asked you to. You gotta. We only shoot two weeks autumn episodes. Two weeks. So I'm in trouble for three days. That's devastating.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But the beauty is when you blow up. Like the way you're blowing up now. Like, they'll invite you back and act like you got your start there.

[Nate Jackson]

And I'll be like, man, I'm so thankful for this. Shout out to now 11.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But the paper is not a reboot, though. It's a. It's a spin off.

[Nate Jackson]

I mean, I don't know what the right word is. You can't talk about it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean.

[Nate Jackson]

No, that part is in the press. But I'm really. I don't know what the word is for, like, this was also happening. But now we'll show you this other place. Just imagine the production company that was in the office, you know, with all the zooming in and all that. Just imagine they went across the street to another address or something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, It's.

[Nate Jackson]

That's kind of. I don't. I don't. I don't know. Because usually a spin off, it takes one character and it follows them. You know what I'm saying? And this ain't that. This isn't Family Matters. And then we just follow Urkel and like. No, this is like. There's characters from the other one in this one. It's a beautiful. Greg Daniels did it again.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

That's all. Like, then the showrunners and that whole team, like, I was in awe. Just like, good. Some of the stuff they found, the. The idiosyncrasies of how funny something simple could be and. And the fact that they were like malleable enough to get it. I'm. Some big words. Anyway. Some of the stuff that was. That they made funny that they took the time and budget to spend time. Like how to just move, like flip a lever. Flipping a lever wasn't just flip. Like, there's a way to pick these glasses up and it's funny. Yeah, there's. And they went through every way. Like, so you want to pick these glasses up. You want to pick these glasses up. Like they. I'm talking about every way to inflect your voice. And they took the time to be like, do it again, but this time. Do. Do it again, but do it this time. And I was like, I did not know that this show was like this fine tooth comb. Like, they take every moment and. And it's. Every moment is, I guess, you know, manicured to be as funny as it can be. Even though it's as dry. But it's hilarious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's still edgy.

[Nate Jackson]

Yes, good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You can't. You can't.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Gotta be the Office man. They had episodes that can't come back out right now because you know what I mean? I love the show. I love it, man. And you, you stream as well sometimes.

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah, no, as much as I can. You know what I'm saying? But God damn, you, you, you. You don't realize how much you don't want to show until you showing it, you know what I'm saying? Like, I walked past some mail on the counter and somebody was like, got your address. I'm like, yeah, what? Because they'll pause it, zoom in. Like, I know where you stay. That's right. Dead ass. I like that. I was going to my office and there's a billboard outside and somebody was like, I know where that billboard is. I'm like, man. So there's so many, like, camera down. Then you just want to talk to somebody. They see the mic on you, like, oh, you miked up. Yeah. I mean, not right now. We good right now. So there's. So it's like I have to like, be like, okay, from this time to this time, I'm going to stream. I thought it was just going to be like, just put the camera on and let's go. Yeah, but some of your life you don't want to. You know what I'm saying? You don't Want to show a lot of your life, really, I think, you know, plus it's a different kind of on because I'm. I'm realizing when you go live, it's a lot of fucking reading.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

People don't really like you reading the equivalent of like nine Harry Potter chapters just to interact with your chat. See what I'm saying?

[Shopify Advertiser]

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[Nate Jackson]

So I can do it, but it's a, it's a thing I have to flip now. Last week I went to Twitch headquarters in San Francisco and I was like, what are we doing? What you want to do? Because there's an entire industry of comedy where people are living big lives and they're perfect for live streaming, but we need like, can we work?

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

And that app is that, that app is. That's a beautiful app. But that, that. Is that the entry level on that is so high it's expensive. To get on Instagram, you need a phone, which already have. If you want to be a creator on Twitter, you got to have like several different apps which have their own learning curve. Whether it's something for overlay, something for alert, something for the chat. Then you got to have a setup. Like there's like, there's a lot even like, let's say you just want to stream your like IRL from a phone. Well, now you gotta go buy a Samsung Galaxy 25. Them things is like 1100. Then you got to get two SIM cards. Like the entry level is expensive.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Like a whole production.

[Nate Jackson]

Even if it's not, it's just expensive. Yeah. Then let's say, let's say you go out and there's a lot of you go. Maybe a Yankees game and I'm going to stream or something if they let you. But somewhere where it's high populated, maybe, maybe the parade or something. Everybody on the cell tower, your signal dropping now your feed is cutting. So if you get tired of that, the next, the next step from the phone is called a Live view Solo pro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That backpack I'll be seeing them kids wear.

[Nate Jackson]

So no. Yeah, yeah. There's a backpack or like a WI fi in the back or something. Yeah. So there's like two or three modems or something up. That is like $6,000. So you telling me just to stay on the app and stay like, it's like that. Who got that? What Young creator just got 6,000 sitting right there. So then the next step up is a 30,000 back. I see like DDG and all them backpacks is $30,000. Oh, that's the backpack that. Yeah. If it's blue or something or hot green. I think that bag is $30,000.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So it's a real investment you make.

[Nate Jackson]

But you, does it pay? Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Nate Jackson]

It pays.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

But how long do you have to be on those sites in order to make the money?

[Nate Jackson]

No, you get, you go as soon as you go partner, I may partner in four days. And if you, how do you make partner? You just, well, there's a thing like, you know, it says just like any other monetization, where they're like, you need this many viewers, this many hours or whatever. But you can also just send an email and be like, here's my numbers on other platforms. And they'd be like, oh, shit, got you. So you're monetized right away, which gives you access to a certain percentage of your advertising and a certain percentage of your subs. And the subs is why, that's why it makes sense.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

You want to know the sauce? I do the sauce.

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[Nate Jackson]

And this is how, this is how it happens. I like to share and, and not gate. You know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely.

[Nate Jackson]

Right. So that's why I said if somebody gonna take something I'm doing and do it it, I didn't make it that hard to get it.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

So I, I, I'll ask you first so that you understand the, the power of it. Right. So in my opinion, I think the IRL clips are the highest algorithm clips on social media right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It seems like it.

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah. It ain't sketches. It used to be sketches. Now it's like. So, like what do you remember from the BET Awards this year, Kai? And exactly, that's a clip, right? What do you remember from Shane Gillis at the ESPYs?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

His, his monologue, which is a clip.

[Nate Jackson]

So like Joe Rogan's clip page is almost six times bigger than the full episode page. Right. Nobody gonna sit through three hours and they just watch the clip. And what makes Twitch so genius is that anybody watching your stream has there's a button on it that says clip. Anyone watch. Any viewer can make a 60 second clip. Now that could be bad. If you're doing something like got your.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ass, it'd be them headlines or they make the headlines. Don't be having nothing to do with the video, right?

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If you got your headlines and you watch the video, like that didn't happen. You didn't say that.

[Nate Jackson]

Yeah, I saw someone, they were like somebody curves. Christian. And I watched and I was like, that even happened. Just having fun.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What the fuck?

[Nate Jackson]

But if you know that. That's what it is. Then. Then now, why not. Why not be strategic then? Yeah. You don't got eight hours to stream. You got two hours. So in that two hours, I'm gonna go here, I'm gonna go there, I'm gonna talk to my brother, my son, or my. Whatever we're gonna have. There'll be chances for moments, and then you can over produce it where you're like, somebody gonna kick in the door and it's going down and like, you know what I'm saying? But you want the clips, because once you get the clip that goes YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, it goes every other platform. And so then you build your audience and then they're on and they subscribe or just coming on. They watch ads. They have no choice. And you get paid. And then from your station in the game, you don't. You're not gonna get that basic percentage. Yeah, you're like, I'm Charlotte, y' all talking about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Set up the Breakfast Club irl. God damn it. I'm ready.

[Nate Jackson]

Are you ready?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Needed that, Nate. Yes.

[Nate Jackson]

Let's do it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

Get your money. Well, check out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I wanna ask one more question. What do you want new fans who see you for the first time on Netflix to walk away thinking.

[Nate Jackson]

I got a new top five? Because for like 20 years, everybody says the same five names in rotation. And I think that it's time that we shake that up a little bit. Basketball got new stars. I'm not saying there's not a place for other people and we can all eat, but let's work together.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

See, I'm saying I. And. And maybe it's a. A challenge, but I would like to see some of the OG Black comics who've made a lot of money in the game reach back and create opportunities for the rest of the game. There's Uptown, I guess is closing. It's not black owned, but it was black ran. And so now I think there are three black owned clubs in America. I'm the biggest at 270 seats. I think when I look around on your wall and see all the successful African Americans and every dollar that got pulled down, that it makes no sense that we don't have more brick and mortars to do the craft we built. Why doesn't Martin have Wanda's? Yeah, why doesn't. You know what I'm saying? Why does. Why isn't there a heart? A Kevin Hart comedy club.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate Jackson]

God damn, you do comedy. Make some money off the drinks for you. Got a liquor sell Only that in your club. Yeah, but there should be. And if that's not it, then let's just get with the, let's get with the people who open businesses left and right and, and then say, look here, you use my name, my likeness, and I want some ownership, whatever. And then, and, but there should be.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That makes sense. Joe Rogan got the comedy club in.

[Nate Jackson]

Austin, now did the mothership.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. I believe Dave is building one.

[Nate Jackson]

Dave has his now.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Yeah, he has.

[Nate Jackson]

And, and, and so there may be four, but that's cr. If you think about all of the money every time you like, who's been in the top three in comedy since, I mean, 1970, it. The majority of the top three top gross earning. I'm not even talking about whether you like them or not. I'm talking about highest grossing act of the year was black. Whether it was Richard Pryor, Red Fox or, or, or, or, or Cat or Mike Epps or Kevin Hart or Martin or like, and if it wasn't one, it was an entity like Kings of comedy or now 85 South. Like, why let's get to 85 comedy clubs. Let's get like, let's expand and grow our, our industry because the people want to come to shows and then you control the buck, you control the dollar. There's no more you in the back getting ripped off or, you know, they don't treat you right because now you know how to be treat. You know what I'm saying? And I want us to get it right too, because I have done other black owned clubs and been like, come on, y'. All. Yeah, I don't really, I don't play like that. We do. We, you know, we, we run a good show, but it's, it's a lot to juggle the career and the club and make sure that it's still black excellence. But my team is thorough, so we hold it down. And if it works in one place, it should in theory work in another place. So I think that, that if I could leave something with, with the, with the entertainers that are watching. Man, what's up? Open something. Open something. Let's get some comedy back on regular tv. Let's make comedy very easy to consume again.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Love that.

[Nate Jackson]

When I was a kid, you could go home and comedy was on and, and Comedy Central had specials and like now you can't find no stand up unless you are like, I'm gonna put it on, I gotta find it. You know what I'm saying? So we need to get to a place where the def jams and the comedy. Like, it feels like that again. Yeah. So if there's something I can leave with the people. I don't know, man, just laugh. Live your love. Live your life to the fullest, you know? And you deserve. You deserve to laugh. So do it. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nate Jackson, Tell them to follow you, brother.

[Nate Jackson]

NateJackson comedy.com or @ Mr. Nate Jackson on the Gram or Nate Jackson Comedy on Tick Tock. Just tap in. NateJacksonComedy.com is the. Where you can see everything. I'm. I'm on. I'm ending the Super Funny World tour here in the next couple of dates. And the Big Dog tour starts right after that. That international. We got Australia. It's. It's crazy. Get some tickets while there's any seats left. It's like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That. Congratulations.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Brother. You say he was doing shows and movies and stuff. You casting.

[Nate Jackson]

Stuff? You want to act in.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Something? Yeah, for.

[Nate Jackson]

Sure. I got some.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Shit. All right.

[Nate Jackson]

Cool. Yeah, I got some shit because.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Like, I'm really, really.

[Nate Jackson]

Good. I almost forgot the movie. I'm tripping. So there's a movie with Seth Rogen, Keke Palmer, Keanu Reeves, and it's Aziz Ansari's directorial debut that comes out in October. And it's called Good Fortune. And I'm in that dope. Damn dope. So. So, yeah, no, I got.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Stuff.

[Nate Jackson]

Okay. I just bought this red camera. We about to be. It's about to go.

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[Nate Jackson]

Red. They can't tell me nothing. Check out Super Funny on Netflix now. Nate Jackson, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us, brother. Appreciate you. That's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake that ass up early in the morning. The Breakfast.

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