BIG FACTS feat. G HERBO

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Breakfast Club – BIG FACTS feat. G HERBO

Date: August 10, 2021
Hosts: DJ Scream, Big Bank, Baby J
Guest: G Herbo

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Overview

This episode of BIG FACTS features Chicago rapper G Herbo in a raw and honest conversation about his journey, the realities of street life, fatherhood, community work, and the responsibilities that come with his success. The discussion flows between personal stories of trauma, the evolution of his music, advice for the next generation, and candid talk about the challenges facing artists and young people from similar backgrounds.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. G Herbo's Personal Growth and Career Evolution

• Starting Young, Staying Solid:
  G Herbo describes how he started his music career at 17 with "Welcome to Fazoland," and remained independent throughout, often feeling like he "took the long route."

  "I stayed solid through everything...I was really, like, in the streets more so than anything." (06:32)

• Transition from the Streets:
  The switch from street life to music was a huge challenge. He talks about distancing himself from negative influences, emphasizing that leaving the old environment was necessary for growth both as a man and an artist.

  "Leaving the streets for real and just chasing only music...I couldn't really grow if I was staying in my same environment." (06:54)

• Music as Therapy:
  Herbo shares that writing and recording music helps him process trauma and stress—it’s his "form of therapy." (08:09)

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2. The Power and Pressure of Cosigns

• Life-Changing Features:
  Discusses the impact of industry cosigns, focusing especially on how Nicki Minaj’s feature launched him onto another level, and names other notable artists with similar influence (Drake, Hov, Future, Thug).

  "A feature from Nicki Minaj is life-changing...the right cosign will definitely take you all the way over the top." (03:39, 04:01)

• Paying It Forward:
  G Herbo talks about co-signing new Chicago talent and supporting upcoming artists, insisting his motivation is genuine and rooted in wanting others to win.

  "I really be fucking with it...I'm just showing love. I want to see niggas win." (04:35)

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3. Swervin’ Through Stress – Mental Health Advocacy

• Origin of the Initiative:
  Inspired by his own struggles and seeing himself in today’s Chicago youth, Herbo started "Swervin’ Through Stress" to provide alternatives and real support.

  "I see myself and my homies...in so many of the kids I interact with on a day to day." (09:43)

• Obstacles to Change:
  He highlights that simply telling kids to leave the streets is not effective unless real, tangible alternatives are provided.

  "You can't have nobody...change their life around in the blink of an eye, but you ain't got else for them to do." (10:30)

• Role Model Reality:
  Describes returning to Chicago as someone who "made it," with property and tangible results, to show young people what’s possible beyond street life.

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4. Coping With Loss & Emotional Struggles

• Losing His Brother:
  G Herbo opens up about his brother’s death and how grief has deeply affected him.

  "Thinking about my little brother though. I ain't gonna lie right now…that should be like fucking me up a lot." (19:59)

• Coping Mechanisms:
  Admits to isolating and drinking as ways of managing pain and stress; highlights the difficulty of expressing pain as a man, especially when expected to always appear strong.

  "As a man, bro, you can't really even complain about…being stressed out...But you gotta let it out, dog." (21:25, 21:26)

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5. Relationships, Fatherhood, and Co-Parenting

• Importance of a Strong Partner:
  Talks about the necessity of a supportive woman and emotional intimacy at home.

  "You want to feel peace, you want to feel your woman being there for you." (22:08)

• Navigating Multiple Families:
  Advises on blending families and managing relationships between current and former partners.

  "You just gotta be the man...it's all about...being a family, for real." (24:07)

• Lessons for His Sons:
  Emphasizes three life lessons: the world is cruel, work ethic is crucial, and respect for women is paramount.

  "Ain't nothing gonna come to you...You gotta really go hustle...respect women." (66:55)

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6. The Dark Side of Rap and Street Culture

• Respect & Materialism:
  Breaks down how respect is often tied to image and material wealth rather than integrity.

  "People respect look, money, and fame...over actual respect." (25:43)

• Competition & Authenticity:
  Rejects participating in “the jewelry competition” and cautions artists to avoid trying to measure up materially.

  "I'm from the real live trenches…who is to tell me I ain't winning cause I ain't got this watch or this car?" (26:28)

• Chicago Rap – Old vs. New:
  When asked for his Chicago Rap Mount Rushmore, he mentions Sosa (Chief Keef), Juice WRLD, Polo G, himself, and nods to Kanye, but clarifies the generational differences in city culture and impact. (29:03-29:19)

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7. The Relentless Cycle of Street Violence & Music’s Role

• Why It's Hard to Escape:
  Discusses the impossibility of completely escaping street beef, even after success. Moving away helps, but isn’t a cure-all.

  "You can move to LA, but now you just have beef with LA niggas if you ain't moving the right way." (41:12)

• Music as Influence:
  Recognizes that violent rap content escalates real-world dangers for young artists, but also that the industry and fans expect it.

  "All that music...ain't doing nothing but getting niggas killed for real." (34:51)

• Manifesting Reality:
  Points to Snoop Dogg and others manifesting violence by constantly rapping about it; encourages a shift towards positive narratives.

  "You manifest that when you keep speaking that shit...Start talking about some money and some women and some other shit." (44:28, 44:51)

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8. Business, Independence, and Advice for Artists

• The Business of Being Independent:
  Shares that being a successful independent artist requires strong internal structure, investment in oneself, and a team (lawyer, engineer, PR/publicist).

  "You gotta have good internal business...you gotta spend money." (61:22-62:06)

• Team Building:
  Argues that a lawyer and engineer might be more important than a manager early on; a good publicist can be just as critical as a manager.

  "A lawyer, engineer, and you should have a PR or a publicist..." (65:32)

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9. Mental Health, Motivation, & Longevity

• Overcoming Slumps & Industry Pressure:
  Speaks honestly about being in a slump, wanting to give up, and the impact of online hate. The pandemic and legal troubles sidelined him, but finishing his album "PTSD" was a turning point.

  "Once I finished my album…I knew they was gonna have to respect it." (59:33–60:46)

• Staying Motivated:
  Encourages anyone from the streets or other walks of life to keep going, focusing on their growth, not others’ expectations.

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10. Reflection, Legacy, and What’s Next

• Bucket List Dreams:
  Wants to "jump off an airplane" (skydive) and travel more for leisure, not just work.

  "I want to travel...take my mama to go do...see some shit like that." (71:43)

• Why He Came to BIG FACTS Podcast:

  "I wanted to come here...Other blogs and podcasts...don’t pick your brain and make you say something that motivates or inspires." (72:25)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the power of positivity and persistence:

  "Life gonna be hard...there’s going to be pressure on everybody who doing something...But when you lean towards the pressure, you’re gonna overcome it..." (72:52)

• On community responsibility:

  "I don't want to go back to my hood if I can't bring my kids over there." (11:53)

• On tragic consequences of rap beef:

  "Don't start nothing...you created this problem...Now you nowhere to be found." (37:17)

• On advice to the next generation:

  "If you respect women, it'll just take you a long way." (68:59)

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Important Segments & Timestamps

| Topic | Timestamp | |-------------------------------------|---------------| | Introduction, Herbo’s Mindset Today | 02:43 | | Impact of Nicki’s Co-sign | 03:39 | | Giving Back to Chicago Artists | 04:25–05:58 | | Growth & Maturity as an Artist | 06:23–07:00 | | Starting “Swervin’ Through Stress” | 09:30–13:49 | | Loss of His Brother & Grief | 19:58–21:26 | | Co-parenting, Relationship Balance | 23:40–25:12 | | Mount Rushmore of Chicago Rap | 29:03 | | Cycle of Violence in Chicago | 31:23–35:26 | | Realities of Industry Competition | 25:34–28:58 | | Importance of Team for Independents | 61:14–66:46 | | Lessons for His Sons | 66:46–68:59 | | Bucket List Goals | 69:55–71:43 | | Final Thoughts on Motivating Others | 72:25–74:12 |

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Tone & Vibe

The conversation is real, vulnerable, and grounded in lived experience. G Herbo is candid about his faults and struggles but hopeful and focused on creating a positive impact, not just for himself but for his community.

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For Listeners

If you haven’t heard this episode, expect a deep, insightful exchange that goes beyond typical hip hop interviews. It’s an honest look at the cost of success, the psychological and social challenges facing young men from the streets, and the strength it takes to break cycles, all told in Herbo’s unfiltered, reflective style.

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Listen for:

• Real talk about trauma, change, and growth
• Hard-earned advice about business and independence
• Resonant street wisdom and community responsibility

Skip: Advertising blocks, intros, outros – the best content is the conversation itself.

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Transcript

[G Herbo]

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[G Herbo]

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[G Herbo]

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[Big Bank]

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[DJ Scream]

Live from first class sounds is DJ Scream, Big Bank, Baby J, special guest G. Herbo. It's time for that Big Facts. Yo my, what's going on with everybody? Everybody good? Everybody good on this fine day?

[Baby J]

Fantastic.

[DJ Scream]

That's what's up. That's what's up.

[Big Bank]

Herbo, man, you, you are like one.

[DJ Scream]

Of the most request, not the most requested guest for Big Facts, so welcome, you know what I'm saying? We look forward to that conversation.

[G Herbo]

Myself, I ain't gonna lie.

[DJ Scream]

Say you requested. Are you a few a fan?

[G Herbo]

Fan of the show like you for sure. This the culture, man. I had to, man. I ain't gonna Lie. I wanted to pull up. I ain't never really like requesting myself to go on. No, I ain't gonna lie, big bro. I tell you, I used to tell him like, myself like, man, I need to do that, man. Come on, what we doing? Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[DJ Scream]

New Project 25 going crazy, you know what I'm saying? Congratulations on that. What's on G herbo mind today, man?

[G Herbo]

Today man, I'm just chilling, man. I just went and picked my son, so I'm in daddy mode and man. Okay, okay. You know, when I come to Atlanta, I really be hanging out for real. Unless I'm with my son. And so I just pulled up right here. Cause this the home team, you know it ain't. Pull up right here.

[DJ Scream]

What's the spot she be with when you in the a town?

[G Herbo]

Copper Cove.

[DJ Scream]

Copper Cold.

[G Herbo]

Right, right, right.

[DJ Scream]

Shout out to Rugs. Got it from Copper Cold.

[Big Bank]

They got everything up there.

[Baby J]

Shout out to Rugs, man.

[Big Bank]

Gambling done took over Bucky, right?

[DJ Scream]

Yeah, for sure.

[Big Bank]

They got the white in place now. They doing whatever.

[Baby J]

Right, right.

[G Herbo]

Yeah.

[Big Bank]

That'S all it took.

[G Herbo]

Yeah. Run up him a couple dollars. Nah, I know exactly who you talking about too. He's your bullshit too. Boy tripping, man.

[DJ Scream]

Recently you showed a lot of love to Nicki Minaj, who gave you, I guess, your first big co sign of feature. And you was saying some shit like, you know what I'm saying, she harder than a lot of male rappers and all that shit. And also that I guess that you know, a feature from Nicki Minaj is life changing. Yeah, who else do you think outside of Nicki Minaj has like that life changing feature ability.

[G Herbo]

Drake for sure.

[DJ Scream]

Drake for sure.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, Drake. Shit, a couple artists. It just depend on like what you do with it and how you do it, you know what I'm saying? Ho, that could be a life change situation. A lot of people like meet future thug. A lot of that shit could change your life. It just depends on how you position, you know what I'm saying? The record for real. But hell yeah, I feel like the right coat. Yeah. The right cosign will definitely take you all the way over the top for sure.

[DJ Scream]

And then do you see yourself in the space of blessing maybe some other Chicago artists or other people to cause you kind of in that situation too. G herbo give you that cosign, you know what I'm saying?

[G Herbo]

Niggas looking at you for sure, for sure.

[Baby J]

Yeah, that's like gas to the fire.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, yeah, no, for sure. It's a bunch of artists. Like it's really not down yourself down like Savage, one of them artists that he could co sign you and take you over the top. I feel like I could do it too though. I feel like I'm definitely one of them artists that could, you know what I'm saying? I did it before though, you know, like not just with just a feature, just a cosign. Like a lot of artists that coming out of Chicago, I would like co sign or play their music on live and shit. And then it just really like piped their whole movement up, you know what I'm saying? But I feel like it's really like that's just one part of it though. You gotta have the talent for sure though, you know what I'm saying? You gotta have the talent. The people gotta fuck with your movement. So I feel like a cosign, that's just. That's easy. If a motherfucker real and they gonna rock with you, it don't really cost no money. Like I don't really be trying to do it like just co sign somebody shit or play somebody's shit to kind of position myself to benefit off they shit, you know. I really be fucking with it like a lot of times, like my team and homies, people around me like, man, you got to stop doing that. But it's like for what? Shit, I'm just showing love. I want to see niggas win, you know what I'm saying? That's why I really do it. Like a lot of times I done actually wanted to sign artists and play they shit and then didn't sign them. And I ain't never had no bad blood or no ill feelings and nothing towards them, you know, I just, I fucked with it. I genuinely fuck with it. So you was doing something right to even make me want to play your shit, you know what I'm saying? That's what it's about. For real.

[Baby J]

So when you dropped PTSD, that was like your first top 10 entry. And then now that you dropped 25. 25 debuted at number five on the list. So what do you feel like is your growth from the PTSD's and the 25? Well, really from welcome to Faizaland to the PTSDs and the 25s, like what do you think? How do you think you evolved from then to now?

[G Herbo]

Really? It's just. I feel like I just stayed solid through everything, you know. Cause when I dropped my first project walking to Faison land, I was like 17 years old. Some shit like that.

[Baby J]

For real?

[G Herbo]

Yeah, I Was young as hell. Yeah. But I was really like in the streets more so than anything, you know? So I like. It's a lot of shit that come in the, like, behind the scenes of the industry. A lot of adversity and a lot of shit you gotta overcome, especially with being independent. I've been independent the whole time I've been an artist, so I had. I felt like I took the long route, you know what I'm saying?

[Baby J]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[G Herbo]

The more I've been through shit and overcame it, I grew as a man, you know what I'm saying? The more I grew as a man, I grew as an artist. So I feel like that was really the difference and it reflected through my music. I never had, like one record, a big record that just blew me up and turned me to this big star overnight. No shit like that. You know, I always just did good business and just weathered the storm. Cause I go through a lot of shit behind closed doors, like in the industry, you know what I'm saying? Whether it's just ironing out, you know, shit on internally with my business. Really, like one of the toughest things I did, though, was leaving the streets for real and just chasing only music, you know what I'm saying? Like, separating myself from a lot of shit, a lot of negative shit, a lot of my homies, you know what I'm saying? And it ain't had nothing to do with like, no bad blood or nothing. I just felt like I was so deep in the streets, I couldn't really grow. If I was staying in my same environment, I wouldn't be where I'm at right now today. So I had to take a real step back from, like, everything, you know, and. And my music grew. Like that was around the time I dropped Humble Beast, which was my first album. And I felt like I grew as an artist, like my music matured and shit like that. So just them different transitions. Then I had a son around that time, and I just started to grow. And I feel like my music, the more I grow, you could tell through my music, you know what I'm saying? I feel like I go through a lot of dark shit behind closed doors that I don't really talk about on the Internet. I know shit like that, you know what I'm saying? And I just lock myself in the studio. When I be stressed out and going through shit, I just isolate myself from anything, Go to studio every day and just put it in my music. That shit like a form of therapy for me, you know what I'm saying. So I feel like every time I do that, I just blossom through music, you know what I'm saying? And with, with 2 5, I went through like a lot of shit, you know what I'm saying? My little brother died in January. I was just falling back from that. I got a baby, you know what I'm saying? Another son I just had in May. So like just getting into that transition in my life, you know what I'm saying? With like, nigga be stressing it, facing trauma and still having to go home and be a boyfriend and be a father and be a son and an artist and all this. You got to put on a certain face for everybody in the world. But in fact, behind closed doors, nigga be really like feeling away, like real ass sick, for real. So I like, I just be trying to not let that shit rub off on nobody. Like I don't want my girl to be feeling the pain I'm feeling every day or my mama or my kids and all that. So in order to do so, I gotta like make a sacrifice and take that time away from them until I get myself together, you know what I'm saying? And then the only thing that make me feel good is doing music. So I feel like that's why my music reflect that so much.

[Baby J]

So like all the stuff that you were going through and all the stuff that you've been through from growing up and even that you still go through as an adult, was that kind of like the catalyst that made you start the swerving through stress last year?

[G Herbo]

Yeah, hell yeah, I did that. Because when I go back home, I be seeing like, I see myself and my homies and shit, like in so much, like in so many of the kids that I interact with on a day to day, you know what I'm saying? Like, I used to listen to nobody. I've been rapping Since I was 16 years old, you know, so I've been on my same team, my same business partner, my same manager all of 16 years old. I always had like good solid people around me. But I still did what I wanted to do, you know what I'm saying? I had my partner, I had niggas investing in me. When I was a kid, 16 years old, I was still in the streets, like thugging. I could have died or went to jail any day, you know what I'm saying? And I wasn't really thinking about nothing but myself. It's nothing. Nobody could have told me or could have gave me no advice that just would have made me leave the Streets. Cause that's all I wanted to do. I love that. So with saying that, I'm trying to say, like, kids don't really listen until it's either. Somebody gonna have to show them that they really care enough to make them wanna have another alternative. You know what I'm saying? Like, you could tell a nigga, oh, no, you're gonna die, go to jail in the streets. Everybody know that. You know what I'm saying? Like, everybody know what they up against when they really in it. And putting themselves in these environments and in the line of fire every day. But what's your alternative? You can't have no kid, like, or a grown man. Nobody. You can't have nobody who this all they know. You want them to change their life around in the blink of an eye, but you ain't got else for them to do. Right? Right, Exactly. You trying to tell a. Like, no, this, this. You know what I'm saying? But, like, even though I had talent and I was doing music the whole time, and I felt like I could make it, but the only thing that I felt was working for me was being in the streets. I felt the safest in the streets. I felt like I was the most. It was the most beneficial for me. That was the only way I knew how to make some money. You feel what I'm saying? Like, I wasn't making money off rap when I was 17 years old, for real. Like, it wasn't enough for me to just dedicate myself straight to it and swerving through stress. I did that. Cause I feel like kids listen to me, especially in Chicago. Cause they know I'll really come from that, you know what I'm saying? I already made a name for myself in the streets before. I was like this big artist. So a lot of people really know me out there, you know what I'm saying? So for me to be able to come back and they see I got shit that's tangible. I got property in Chicago. I got a school in Chicago. And I'm 25 years old. And they seeing me like, damn, it's possible. And I'm telling them, like, nah, I only want to come back and motivate you. Because I was once you. You know what I'm saying? You could do this same shit. You know, I done went to the jails and shit like that. And a lot of times, like, I just look at the kids. They don't really listen to nobody. And then I come and talk to them, and then they, like. One time this kid told me, like, Man, I got juvenile life. And as soon as I get out of jail, I'm going right, right to the joint, man. It ain't no hope for me. And I'm like, that's what they want you to think. They really want you to feel like there's no way for you to ever overcome any of the shit you're going through. You know what I'm saying? That's why I started that initiative, you feel me? Because it ain't just about me. I don't wanna go. I named my son Essence, man, after my block. I don't wanna go back to my hood if I can't bring my kids over there, if I can't make that shit good enough for me to be able to stand out there and not have to carry no gun when I'm 35, 40 years old. That ain't why I'm doing this shit. You know what I'm saying? And it's about putting the resources back into it. Putting the resources back into the community. I know rappers, I know NBA players, I know engineers. Like, that's why the building we got, we gonna turn into a multimedia facility. Cause it's like, nigga got the resources. We got everything that we could put back into the community. I could have my homies. All right, you fuck with me, let's go back and just talk to these kids about engineering or talk to these kids about the ins and outs of going to play pro basketball or college basketball on a high level. Or, you know, just producers, production, whatever it is, whatever your specialty is, whatever your specialty is, just go back and just. Not even just showing them how to do it, but just letting them see and feel you like that shit. A different feeling from seeing somebody on the Internet and them being right in front of you and they like, oh, damn, this a real nigga, too. He actually a real person. Like, people really look at us and feel like we superheroes. Cause we on the Internet and we get. You know, we regular people. Like, if you go and have a regular conversation with somebody, that shit could really change their life. You know what I'm saying? I learned that just off experience. You feel me? So that's why that shit, like, just as important as the music to me, for real.

[Big Bank]

What was that one moment or one thing that happened that made you feel like, I can do this.

[G Herbo]

Man, I ain't gonna lie. Really. And I ain't even just saying, like, on no other. Like, really, when. When Nikki flew me to la, like, she actually flew me to. To la for real. And Just had me in the studio with it and like, telling me like, no, I only reached out to you because I with you. Like, I really like your flows and all this. That inspired me to make this song. And I'm like, me. That really tripped me out. So when I did the song with her and the shit came out like a success, for real. And then she brought me out for summer jam and I'm going back home and it's like my whole world changed a little bit because I was still in the streets, don't get me wrong. But like, just the, the reaction I get from people just made me feel like it inspired me to feel like, all right, no, I gotta do this shit, I gotta do it. Nah, for real. Like everywhere I went, yeah, I ain't.

[Big Bank]

Lil Herb no more.

[G Herbo]

Every single anybody interacted with, they reaction was different. Like the police would treat me different. All kind of shit. Like, I used to get breaks from the police. They ain't want to lock me up no more. They ask me all type of goofy ass questions. Yo, what's up with Nicki Minaj? Her ass fat, for real. Hey, on some fan shit, you know? So it kind of like, it made me feel like I ain't really feel like I was there yet, but I'm like these people really acknowledging me, you know what I'm saying? Like, I could really get there, you know what I'm saying? And that was a lot. It was definitely like a game changer for me. And I always was like, humble and modest. I never really lived in no moment, so I wasn't even trippin. Like, I. I felt good about having a song, but when I went back, I know I'm gonna go right back into these same environments. You feel what I'm saying? But it's just the reaction that I got from people going to the studio. People were really telling me like, no, you a stop.

[Big Bank]

What made you just say, fuck that, I gotta leave.

[G Herbo]

I gotta leave the city, man. I ain't gonna lie. I was getting in too much trouble, bro. I was like going to jail, getting in chases and shit with the police all the time. Like every day, though. Like every single day, you know what I'm saying? And then just a matter of time for it to holiday. I'm like, man, I can't do it. For real. Like, I was probably like 19 going on 20 years old. And I had just bought my mama a house. I bought my mama a house in the suburbs. And I was still like just in the streets, for real. So I go outside gotta travel 30 minutes just to get to my hood. Cause my mama lives so far now I'm like, why I'm even having to go? Why I'm even driving 30 minutes to go be in some bullshit, you know what I'm saying? Like I really like, soon as I get over there, police locking niggas up, I'm getting a high speed chases and all type of crazy shit. And I ain't gonna lie, it was just one last little situation where I'm like, I can't keep doing this shit. I know for a fact if I just keep on like just putting myself in these environments, in these situations. I know for a fact, like I' ma just, I'm gonna go to jail. I'm just not going like, this shit gonna end bad for closer and closer.

[DJ Scream]

Yeah.

[G Herbo]

You know how you had that dark cloud over your head and your gut.

[Big Bank]

Feeling just telling me, accepting your signs, that's what it is.

[G Herbo]

You accept for sure, bro. I ain't gonna lie. And I was saying in my head like, man, I can't keep on just ignoring my blessings for real. Like catching blessing every day. Every single day. Like every single day. And I'm like, man, hell no. This don't work like that. This chest, this ain't check. Cause I ain't finna be. Just keep coming outside and feeling like I'm the lucky one. Like I'm just not going to jail or getting shot. No. Cause I'm lucky. Yeah. Whoa. What a vibe we've got y'. All. As always, it's classic HBCU energy. Nonstop action. The band is rockin' and the crowd lit. Chants, echoing drums beating everybody.

[Big Bank]

Showing that school pride.

[G Herbo]

Moments like this, yeah, they call for an ice cold Coca Cola. Crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. Mm, yeah, that taste always hit the right note. Just like the band at halftime. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere and an ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo. No matter the place, no matter the moment, everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep.

[Big Bank]

That HBCU pride going.

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[Big Bank]

Shit that when you sit by yourself.

[G Herbo]

You just get depressed about like thinking about my little brother though. I ain't gonna lie right now. He passed away in January, January 28th. I'll be thinking about him a lot because that wasn't really for him. I ain't gonna lie. Like sometimes I be feeling like a did something to him just to hurt me. Yeah, that should be like me up a lot and really that'd be the most though. You know how you bounce back from.

[Big Bank]

That shit, how you shake it?

[G Herbo]

I don't know. I was drinking a lot. I went into like a slump, like a real like just emotional slump. Just drinking all day every day, going to the studio, drinking, drinking, drinking, drinking, everybody. Because like I can't smoke no more. And that's what I, that's what I do. I'm a smoker. So it's like I just felt like I needed some stuff instead like balance it because I'm angry. You know how you go through some shit and you be like everything just make you think about it like, nigga, smile and laugh, having fun. You're like, what the fuck, I'm having fun. You know that's fucked up when you gotta think like that. Like you can't even really smile and enjoy yourself. Cause you like what I got to smile about. And I got everything to smile about, nigga. Really blessed, you know. So just thinking about that shit, I have to like leave the house three, four in the morning, go ride just to get that shit out of me. Cause like, you know, being around my girls, like she understand. But as a man, like I just feel like as a man, bro, you can't really even complain about. And that's, that's not good either. Like you can't really complain about your situation or complain about being stressed out. Cause at the end of the day, I feel like don't nobody really like you the man, you know, you supposed to be strong.

[Baby J]

But you gotta let it out, dog.

[G Herbo]

You gotta let it out, you gotta let it out. I do that. I feel like I do that. And I grieve on my own time. Cause at the end of the day, shit, my bills ain't gonn stop coming. My kid ain't gonna stop crying when he need milk, you know what I'm saying? My girl ain't gonna stop wanting attention and affection and shit like that. But like, how you gonna be able to get her that if you can't even get to yourself, you know what I'm saying? Or get anybody that. So I just feel like I gotta isolate myself to get that shit out and then come back and be the man I'm supposed to be, you know what I'm saying? But that was probably like one of my biggest heartbreaks. For real though, like even being in the streets, I done lost a lot of shit, bro. And I done felt a lot of pain. But just that right there just made me feel like, damn.

[Big Bank]

How important is it like to have a right female though?

[G Herbo]

Oh no, super important for sure. Cause you know, you know, big bro, because it's like a woman don't really understand because like I said, you're not gonna tell them everything. You're not gonna tell them that when you leave this house, you got to go swim with sharks and you got to go broke all these bad deals and go hang around that really like love you but don't love you for real. And then you got to come back home, you want to feel peace, you want to feel your woman being there for you, you know what I'm saying? I got that. I ain't gonna lie. I definitely got that. And it's important it play a big part, and it make you want to go out and hustle, so you can just bring it right back to her. You feel what I'm saying? And a lot of times, women don't really understand that you got to do that. So you got to tell them a little bit. You feel me? So you got to tell them what you up against when you leave the house, but just if they not nurturing on their own, they'll never really get it, like, you know what I'm saying? No matter what you tell or how much you try to smile.

[Big Bank]

Hey, before you get question right, I got a question. Every time I have a question in my head, they answer it, right?

[G Herbo]

Right. If she ain't really got it, it's nothing you could do to tell her to make her wanna. You know what I'm saying? Make you feel good when you get home. She just gotta want to be that person for you. That important, though. I ain't gonna lie.

[Big Bank]

But we was in Jamaica. Y' all like sister and brother, though.

[G Herbo]

Yeah. No, for real, though. It's like. And that's so funny you saying that. Just being around, like, yeah, that's. As my girl, we, you know, we affectionate, but it's like, we argue, talk shit. We cool the same way. Like, growing in the house with your sister or some shit like that. For real.

[Baby J]

So it's like. So with having a girl and with also having, like, a child with somebody else that you used to be involved in prior to your current relationship, how do you balance, like, the relationship between your current girlfriend and your child's mother? Like, what advice would you give to niggas, like, as to how to be able to bring a happy medium to the middle and make everybody get along?

[G Herbo]

For the most part, you just gotta be the man, you know? You can't take nothing personal. Especially, like, women emotions. Cause women gonna be emotions. They shit like, it's like an ocean. Women gonna say what they feel, and a man gonna say what he mean. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, you gotta think about that. Like, even when you emotional and wanna say some shit, you gotta take a step back, think about it like, nah, hell no, it's cool. You ain'. I won't fault you for how you feel or fault you for how you feel, but at the end of the day, it's all about shit, being a family, for real. You know what I'm saying? Regardless of the fact, Regardless if I'm with my baby mama or not, that's still my family, that's my son mama, you know what I'm saying? And the family I'm building is my family. Cause this the family I'm building, you know what I'm saying? So at the end of the day, it's all about just being a family. And I feel like if you're a real nigga and you can do right by your kids, there's nothing no woman gonna be able to do or say for real. They gonna like, unless you playing with.

[Big Bank]

Her emotions, you still fuckin her and.

[G Herbo]

That'S what the problem for sure.

[Baby J]

As long as you're trans about everything.

[G Herbo]

You can't fuck them, you can't play with their emotions at all, you know what I'm saying? But you just gotta do right by your kids though, you know what I'm saying? Like it ain't.

[Baby J]

And that'll kill a lot of the.

[G Herbo]

Shit, like a lot of shit you'll grow. It ain't gotta be no personal relationship or nothing like that. But at the end of the day, if you gonna stand on your job and your business as a man and take care of your kids, they not gonna never deny you that, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, all right, we could be friends or we don't gotta be friends, but at the end of the day, this my job and I' ma just do it to you know what I'm saying? The best of my ability. It shouldn't really be no drama after that.

[Big Bank]

For real, how hard is it being just like a young nigga in this shit and to get the respect that you trying to get, you know what I'm saying? How hard is that shit?

[G Herbo]

No, that's probably the toughest shit. For real, that's the toughest part because it's like right now in the world we live in, people respect like a look they respect look, money and fame, actual over like over actual respect, you know what I'm saying? I feel like being a real nigga, you ain't gonna never really get the respect that you deserve or the respect that you feel you need. Because it ain't a lot of people like that that's gonna understand the way you move and gonna give you respect just off being solid. Cause niggas ain't solid. And you know that, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Bank]

How do a nigga avoid like being in the, in the, in the jury competition? Like niggas buy what they want to buy, but you Know sometimes when a new watch come, if you ain't got it, you don't sell off.

[G Herbo]

Exactly.

[Big Bank]

If you don't, how do a nigga avoid that type shit?

[G Herbo]

You gotta like, See, you gotta avoid that just by, like, you gotta just be solid, like ain't no competition for real style. You gotta have your own style and not be no competition. Cause at the end of the day, it's. It depend on what type of nigga you is. I know I come from literally nothing like facts. I'm from the real live trenches. I'm a real street nigga. I ain't even probably supposed to be here for real, but I'm supposed to be here. Cause I work to, to be here. So Ed Rome. I'm in. I'm supposed to be in it. But what I was up against, I ain't supposed to be here. So when you think about shit like that, it's like, who is to tell me that I ain't winning Cause I ain't got this watch or this car. My mama got a million dollar house. I got a multi million dollar house. I got six cars, five watches, 10 million chains. Like, how they gonna tell me that I ain't winning cause I don't got the same amount of shit he got. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Bank]

You gotta speak to this bro. You got this. This what you here for.

[G Herbo]

No, for real, you gotta put this.

[Big Bank]

Shit in the music, bro.

[G Herbo]

Cause that shit like young nigga saying that shit.

[Big Bank]

That's real shit.

[G Herbo]

Real. Cause it's like, look at you like, oh, you ain't doing this, you ain't doing that. Cause you ain't this way and a tell you that, that ain't got none of this. You know what I'm saying? Like a real who got everything. And you still a real, but you got everything. You not gonna look at a like, oh, no, I can't fuck with him. Cause he ain't got what I got. Sometimes you just need to get around certain people to position yourself to have. Like, everybody got their own time. It might take you 5, 10 years to be able to afford whatever you want. But at least I could afford some shit. I go do what I want to do when I want to do it. You know what I'm saying? Right? This a real competition though. Like a you like, you ain't that nigga or they ain't gonna respect you. Cause you ain't gonna do this, this, that and the third, you know what I'm saying? But at the end of the day, it's like, shit, all I did was keep it solid. I done took care of myself, my mama, all my. My homies in position to go in. Like, I ain't the only one with no watch. All my niggas got watches, chains, cars, all this shit, you know, So I could go have every other Patek Richard meal, but at the end of the day, it's all. It's three, four other millionaires with me right now that could pick the tab up right now and pay for this shit. So that's real. A lot of times people, like, they want to position they self higher than they position other people, you know what I'm saying? I ain't never really been one of the people, and I think that's why it take me longer and it take people longer to get up on my shit and with it. Because I ain't trying to make you with it. You know what I'm saying? It's just this for who was for real.

[Baby J]

So, like, if you had to pick.

[G Herbo]

Yeah. You know, that don't sell itself. Yeah. All you gotta do is just chill, pass this out to who it's for, and they gonna come back for it.

[Baby J]

Yeah, they gonna advertise it for you.

[G Herbo]

Nah, no bullshit, though.

[Baby J]

But if you had to pick, like, five people to go on the Chicago.

[G Herbo]

Rap Rushmore, who would they be for Chicago? It'd be Sosa for sure. Juice, wrld, Polo, and you. And myself. Yeah.

[Big Bank]

I don't fuck with none of the old niggas.

[G Herbo]

I do. I do, though. I ain't gonna lie. I do. Yay.

[DJ Scream]

No twister.

[G Herbo]

That's what we.

[Big Bank]

I heard.

[DJ Scream]

No yay, no twister.

[G Herbo]

I feel like it's what we doing now. Lie. It's a little different. Like, I ain't gonna lie. It is. It is. It is. I ain't gonna lie. But see, I have to do two, because if I did another one, I do a straight old head. I just feel like. I feel like the wave and what we doing for, like, music in Chicago different, man. Like. Like, I ain't trying to knock nobody or no none of the old heads, but just respecting this a lot, lot more right now. What we doing. Back then, you know what I'm saying? I just know that because I love hip hop, I always, like, was a young in the mix. I've been like, outside 10, 12 years old. Like, I was always somebody, like, in my neighborhood all through the east side. So I was able to, like, see this shit for myself. Like, you know, I'm so. I didn't seen Cayenne purse when I was a kid. I didn't see Bump J in purse when I was a kid. Twister, like, he really, like, know my uncle. The reason why I even started rapping in the first place, you know, my uncle passed away. His name's K Tone. But Twister know him personally. You feel what I'm saying? And, like, the aura, everything was different. Like, I ain't gonna lie. I never really been starstruck seeing no rapper in Chicago until I seen Bum J hop out when I was leaving school one time. Like, he hopped out and just. They movement and what they was doing, I don't know, maybe just being a street. He ain't really, like. He was just. I feel like, where's he at now? Bump, he out. He out and about. You know what I'm saying? He out, he hustling. I bump doing him. But, like, just when I seen him when I was a kid, that shit just. I ain't never really been starstruck, for real. And then I seen ye again. I was, like, starstruck a little bit. And ye had said something to me like, man, you gotta stop letting these niggas steal your staff. And I'm like, damn. I ain't even think he knew who I was. You feel me? But he knew who I was, you know what I'm saying? But I just feel like music right now in Chicago, we could really do something way different than it's ever been done if we just come together. You know what I'm saying? We gotta come together. Like, how y' all doing out here?

[Big Bank]

What you think the process of that.

[G Herbo]

Is, though, Just leaving all this, all the alone. Man, so much street shit in Chicago where, like would be cool, but you can't be as cool as you want to be. Cause, you know, a. Or yo, y' all cousins. And to it, like, my cousin and my homie could possibly potentially be in the same room. And I know these going. It's gonna go down soon. They see each other, gonna try to kill each other. No matter if I'm here, who he here, she here, they here. Like, we gotta do, like, position where it's like, it ain't even worth it. Like, at the end of the day, when blood gets. I know for sure like, that shit, it's unforgivable. You know what I'm saying? It's unforgivable. And I was like that. I was the same. But when you got kids, you got 5, 10 million sitting in your account, you ain't finna just go shoot A broad day. Like right now, you're not doing that. No matter how you feel, how angry, how much anger you got. Nigga don't think twice about that. So you gotta put niggas in position. You gotta have opportunity where niggas is really getting money. And they don't even got like that mentality. What? I ain't got nothing to lose, you know, I don't give no fuck how angry you is, how much you a real street nigga and a killer for show nigga gonna think twice before they just go put theyself in the line of fire if you actually got something going on for yourself, you know what I'm saying? So we can't be selfish. We gotta really like everybody who got some type of money, opportunity, resources, put that shit back in Chicago so we could get some money flowing out here. Like that's the difference between Chicago and Atlanta. Niggas getting money. A nigga ain't even got a rap. You ain't never heard a rap from this nigga. He got every chain, every watch, you got car, all this shit. Cause niggas is getting money out here. That's what they focus on, money. Like, nigga in Chicago wake up, just want to kill. They don't want to get no money. We gotta make a nigga not want to do nothing but get some money. Like when the niggas feel money though, and they see what it do for you, that's what they gonna want to do. Yeah.

[Big Bank]

How big you think? What part you think the music play.

[G Herbo]

In that shit, though? It play a big part of it. Cause growing up and our wave we had in Chicago was so like, big and it was so many niggas rapping and not understanding what they doing. Like, you had niggas that came up solid, that was realized real, that was rapping and. And living what they saying. But it's a lot of, like what we did with rapping had transferred to other places. And like that people rapping about that, they really not ain't living. You know what I'm saying? So rap played a big part in it. Cause how we came up talking about this hood and this dead and this, this, this, and the third, but it's like you don't even really feel like that, you know what I'm saying? Like, a lot of times a nigga be rapping, that shit they want to.

[Big Bank]

Hear, you know, that shit they want.

[G Herbo]

To hear, it just sound good. Like a see you and you will see a nigga you on tour with or a you rapping about. And your eyes just tell a nigga you scared. So now they gonna really try you. You feel what I'm saying? They gonna eat you. Cause you not even really like that. And at the end of the day, they don't make you cool or not cool. If a nigga know how to rap, rap about something that make you cool, that you really.

[Baby J]

That applies.

[Big Bank]

But you think that should have worked with what going on?

[G Herbo]

Yeah, it will. Cause at the end of the day, certain, it's like. It's a respect thing. You know what I'm saying? Certain nigga. Like a real nigga. Like, if I see a nigga, niggas rap about me all the time, and I be seeing niggas. But I ain't rap about you. You said something about me, so I see you, and you supposed to try me immediately. And I want you to for real. But you not, though. You know you not.

[Big Bank]

But I'm saying if somebody go rap about. Just say, if it's a kid, go rap about goddamn school.

[G Herbo]

Yeah.

[Big Bank]

Or anything else.

[G Herbo]

Hell yeah, it'll work. Cause it's a lot of people that go to school. But it's. But it's.

[Baby J]

And it ain't not a lot of.

[Big Bank]

Rappers that rapping that working, though.

[G Herbo]

Ain't nobody did it, though. For real. Ain't nobody did that shit for real. Bank not in. In the city. For real. Like, it'll work to a certain extent, but I feel like ain't nobody gonna co. Sign it. Cause everybody think, yeah, they supposed to rap about some other shit that they not really living. But at the end of the day, that shit ain't doing nothing but getting niggas killed. For real. That shit ain't doing nothing but getting niggas killed for sure. So it's like you could win just being like a cool, smooth, wavy nigga. But it's like, what you in it for? Like, is you trying to win just being you, or you trying to be the biggest nigga by being something that you ain't. You not gonna be the biggest nigga being something you ain't.

[Big Bank]

See, you can say that from the point of being the nigga that say you is right. But the person that's looking at this is entertainment.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, you're right, though.

[Big Bank]

The person that's looking at this is entertainment.

[G Herbo]

And I'm like, no, you absolutely right. But that goes to say. That go to say, this ain't for everybody. You gotta find what's for you. Like, but it actually work for some.

[Big Bank]

Of these who be lying.

[G Herbo]

It do work for some that be lying. But then it's like it work on the Internet and what you think. But don't be happy for real because.

[Big Bank]

They don't be broke no more.

[G Herbo]

No, they don't though.

[Big Bank]

You need to meet change their life. Okay, but no no, I get what you're saying. Totally. And I'm not disagreeing. What I'm saying is a. A nobody ass could be sitting in his mama basement and make a hot ass song saying goddamn what he finna do to a. Yeah, that blow up.

[G Herbo]

One song change your life.

[Big Bank]

Yeah, that changes life. Now he able to take care for take care of his family and. But you don't create a real problem. Like.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, a real problem.

[Big Bank]

But feel like I've just been saying see him broke. I rather had his problem and his money than to be broke.

[DJ Scream]

Yeah.

[Big Bank]

With no problems.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, certain don't feel like that. But then there's certain that's like shit down. They. When they do it, they regret even doing it because the problems that come.

[Big Bank]

With it for sure the problems, the.

[G Herbo]

Trouble come with it. Like niggas looking for you that you don't even like, you can't even protect yourself. You gotta go isolate yourself. And then it's like when they feel like that they go in a real slump. They don't even want to make music no more. They don't want to do nothing. Now you got all these bills and everybody depending on you and you ain't got no other way to make no money because you don't even want to make music no more. You don't want to come outside, you don't want to go to the studio. You don't want to do shows cause on your ass so.

[Big Bank]

But you got something that ass and go all the way with it.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, they will though. And the that do that. I respect them more. Yeah. At least you gonna take everything that come with the that you created.

[Big Bank]

You feel you saying don't start something up.

[G Herbo]

Hell no, don't start nothing. And then just like you created this problem for all these, you got actually killing each other. And now you know where to be found. You know where to be found at all. You know what I'm saying? Or you. And it ain't gotta be nothing to do with like. Like being in the mix or contributing to the war. Go try to clear that up before it get too messy and really start dying and too much blood gets spit where you can't come back from it for sure. Go try to clear that up in some way. If you Can. You know what I'm saying? And you ain't lying, though. The music, rap music, that's just. Just that made it so up to be a young in general, where it's like, yeah, you can't even come back from this no more. You. It's damn near impossible.

[Big Bank]

For real.

[DJ Scream]

Because.

[Big Bank]

Because if you. If you.

[G Herbo]

You.

[Big Bank]

If you say, God damn. If you come on this interview right now and say, oh, well, you know what? Tell my ops I don't got no problem. Yeah, your fan gonna be looking like.

[G Herbo]

But, yeah, you're a straight man. What do you do?

[Big Bank]

It's just like a dilemma. Like, you could really want to in your heart, feel like, I want to change, bro. I'm really sick of this. But then you lose your fans.

[G Herbo]

Yeah.

[Big Bank]

What do you do?

[DJ Scream]

I think you get other fans, though. I think you get other fans. You can get other fans, everybody.

[G Herbo]

But you ain't gonna have.

[DJ Scream]

You ain't gonna have those fans.

[G Herbo]

No. You ain't gonna be as big as you probably was. Nothing.

[Big Bank]

Nobody's trying to lose nothing.

[G Herbo]

But then again, it's like. Like you just said, you got to take it. No, don't forget what you just said. I just want to make this one point. You got to take everything that come with this. Even if, like, I didn't change my. I ain't trying to start no today. But it's like, if you got a problem with me for what happened five, 10 years ago, I just got to take what come with it. It is what it is. Exactly.

[Big Bank]

And that never goes away. People got a problem with you that you don't even know. Yeah, people got problem. People wake up and make you they problem, problem. Wake up and make.

[G Herbo]

Hell yeah.

[Big Bank]

That her was still right here. If he. If he pick up the phone, I'll be this.

[G Herbo]

Yeah.

[Big Bank]

Or I do that.

[G Herbo]

But that's why you gotta just stay aggressive and stay like what you are. Because at the end of the day, you gonna have them type of problems. So it's like, I can't just say it. I don't want nothing to do with nothing no more. Like, all right, I don't want no trouble. But it is what it is. I'm gonna take it if it come to me. I got two shit. I ain't got no choice.

[Big Bank]

Yeah, saying what do, how do, when do it? How do this shit? Like, well, listen, crazy. What do a nigga do?

[DJ Scream]

One of the brands I respect, I was fin say, Snoop Dogg, bro. Cause he came from gangsta early on. Grow out, grow.

[Baby J]

He.

[Big Bank]

Outl.

[G Herbo]

That he was into it with all dead in jail. He supposed to be able to do this.

[Big Bank]

Yeah, he outlived the whole.

[DJ Scream]

No, that's true.

[G Herbo]

It's only gonna be a handful of maybe 4, 5. That's the last men all that them.

[Big Bank]

Ain'T got no money. Them a got nothing going on.

[DJ Scream]

No, but I'm saying he don't transition.

[G Herbo]

To the point where he ain't gotta.

[DJ Scream]

Worry about all that dumb Snoop.

[Big Bank]

I don't know how old Snoop is. This is a. I'm talking about these young.

[G Herbo]

Yeah.

[Big Bank]

Oh, how do they get turning on the.

[DJ Scream]

We gotta ask him possible.

[G Herbo]

We gotta ask him try to live.

[Baby J]

As long as.

[Big Bank]

Impossible.

[Jardiance Advertiser]

Damn.

[G Herbo]

It is impossible. For real. Cause he not lying though. No matter what. Even if you guys like certain that's so deep in the streets that's really. That's on some real too and getting money now like they ops. Even though it's automatic smoke when we see each other. It is what it is. But respect you just cause off who you is and what you did like. And I feel like I got that in Chicago. Like a nigga respect me for sure. A nigga gonna see me and damn near like not out of fear nothing. Just think twice before they even go act off impulse and try to do something to me. You know what I'm saying? Cause I built that kind of respect for myself. But at the end of the day, like big bro just said, you gonna have a nigga just wake up mad at the world for no reason that just want to do something to you. Fuck all that. I don't respect nothing. I'm gonna go crash out right then. So it is almost impossible to avoid that shit.

[DJ Scream]

But the first step is to move.

[Big Bank]

We agree that the first time.

[G Herbo]

Hell yeah, that's what I did. But that don't work for everybody, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Bank]

Like Citizen B exactly brought in like. Like he's like this just like he his family here for.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Bank]

You know what I'm saying? Or la, wherever you go. His family there so.

[G Herbo]

Exactly.

[Big Bank]

But when you come in the you you ain't making no noise. How you gonna move?

[G Herbo]

You gonna move for what? Just have them same problems that you had in Chicago. You better off just staying from where you from. And he just hit it right on the head. Like I move cuz. Because I was on a mission where like I'm just finna separate myself from this right here and just come out here and just focus on going to the studio, going to the crib. But at the End of the day, I know I still got love in la. Cause I fuck with niggas that got love in la, you know what I'm saying? Disrespected. And I know I got love in Atlanta. Cause I fuck with niggas the same way. You know, I've been going to LA since I was 16, 17 years old, 18, coming right back, going to Atlanta the same way, you know what I'm saying? I met Southside when I was 17 years old, you feel me? That been my brother, you know what I'm saying? Like, I've been coming out here fucking with brother and fucking with Savage now for down there three, four years now, you feel me? So it's like, I just. You gotta know what you up against at the end of the day. Like you could go move to la, and then now all you finna do is have beef with a bunch of LA niggas if you ain't moving the right way, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Bank]

You can't take the same energy with you.

[G Herbo]

Hell no, you can't.

[Big Bank]

You ain't take the same energy that you can't. You know what I'm saying?

[G Herbo]

You gotta show love at the end of the day. That's what it's about, showing love. But, I don't know, it just gotta be in you. Like your aura just gotta be like. Like all the energy around you just gotta be like I with him, you know what I'm saying? Like, just. It just gotta be on you. That gotta be in you for real. Like, just gotta feel it.

[Big Bank]

I wanna know what the solution is though, for.

[G Herbo]

No, I ain't gonna lie. That got me thinking too though. Cause how you just explained it, it really just let me know this shit bigger than one person. Cause I feel like I be feeling like I could make a difference, but then just talking to him, that's why I wanted to come.

[Big Bank]

Nah, but keep doing that though.

[G Herbo]

He can't give up.

[DJ Scream]

We can't give up.

[G Herbo]

I'm gonna definitely keep doing it. But at the end of the day, it's like, that's why you gotta have conversation with like, real who understand that think outside the box. Cause I ain't never really think about the way big bro placing it right now. You know what I'm saying? Cause yeah, it should be damn near impossible. For real. So it's like more than one. Take a army to make this better.

[DJ Scream]

And money don't solve it.

[G Herbo]

Hell no.

[DJ Scream]

Sometimes I make it worse.

[G Herbo]

It make it worse for sure. Cause you gonna get to the wrong.

[Big Bank]

And when you create a movement, even, bro, this shit just so. Cause you can create a movement and try to goddamn just like anything else. Martin Luther King, what his name, create a movement, then the movement hating at you to face. We create G herbo movement.

[DJ Scream]

Crapping the bucket.

[Big Bank]

And we all shit. We with it. I'm with it. Bank with it.

[G Herbo]

Everybody with it.

[Big Bank]

It's gonna be a nigga somewhere mad that G herbo is the face of this.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, that G herbo is doing a great job.

[Big Bank]

He could be doing a great job at this shit. No be like, why he got all the way, bro. He the chosen one. And then that could turn into real things.

[G Herbo]

Not to get. No for real. Cause he gonna poison 4, 5, 10, other to feel how he feel.

[Big Bank]

Yes.

[G Herbo]

And now once it's when it's poison internal, it's like it's damn near impossible to fix that too. He not lying though.

[DJ Scream]

Like, not to get the preaching, but that is hundreds of years.

[Big Bank]

You gotta get all the hate, all the functionality.

[G Herbo]

Yeah. You gotta outlet. That's as soon as he said that, that was my first. The only I could think of. You gotta live like sn telling you.

[DJ Scream]

You got to start.

[G Herbo]

Weed and.

[DJ Scream]

Real.

[Big Bank]

Know from when Snoop them coming up. But even.

[DJ Scream]

Even Snoop said, Brian never have a murder case till I made murder was the case. So again, back to some big fat. You manifest that when you keep speaking that you manifesting it. You creating that energy.

[G Herbo]

That's crazy. I never know. He said it. He.

[DJ Scream]

He said that in the end club. So it's like you manifest this shit. Start talking about some money and some women and some other. You know what I'm saying?

[G Herbo]

No, you ain't lying though. Definitely be like, man in his mouth that powerful when you speaking about certain shit. Yeah, yeah.

[Baby J]

That tongue is very powerful.

[G Herbo]

Hell yeah.

[DJ Scream]

So it's been a lot of chatter going around about collaborations. I think I saw some online about Lil Bibby Polo G. Like, are those gonna manifest and become a reality?

[G Herbo]

Think. Yeah, I think they should, for sure. You know what I'm saying? Especially baby. Especially me and baby. That's long overdue, bro.

[Baby J]

Y' all pretty much started together, right?

[G Herbo]

Yeah, hell yeah, for sure. I ain't gonna lie. And I think Bibby, like, he wanna rap for real, but it's like just making so much money doing other. He ain't really tripping about rap, you know what I'm saying? Like, they gotta really just motivate him to get in the studio, go lock in for a month, two months and Just by him knowing how to rap and loving that shit. Cause that's what he. That's the reason he even in the industry in the first place. I think he gonna fall back in love with it like that. Like that's what I need to do. Just go. Had nothing to do. Just go lock in with bro and I think we gonna make some hard ass shit for real. But that not really thinking about rap. Cause shit he making so much money. Brought other shit. Bro. He on some mogul shit right now. Nigga. I ain't even thinking about rap at all. For real.

[Big Bank]

Who the next nigga coming out?

[G Herbo]

Chicago. Out of Chicago. I fuck with flat NYRI. He hard DCG going crazy. My little brother 40, he going crazy from my hood. That's my little brother. He turned shawty next for sure. My little cousin lil way, he definitely got a crazy little move. My little cousin, he just got out of jail. He just beat a quadruple murder. He got out last year. Yeah, he just got out.

[Big Bank]

This gonna blow up fast.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, how that go bro?

[Big Bank]

Like you got that, that know like he just beat a Tupac. No, how this go bro?

[G Herbo]

This different. Crazy for real though. Like that little right there just take you over the top. Some negative up ass like damn. Just in jail for murder piping.

[Baby J]

Quadruple.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, exactly. Quadruple exactly. Eat a real deal. They seeing dollar signs.

[Big Bank]

Eat a real deal. Even labels look at it like.

[G Herbo]

Like they.

[Big Bank]

They them folk. Damn. They ask you what's the story?

[G Herbo]

Yeah, what's the story? Yeah, like what's the gimmick?

[Big Bank]

Like what we selling?

[G Herbo]

Exactly. Every time want to know what we selling?

[Big Bank]

Like I'm a passionate rapper.

[G Herbo]

That's it. They ain't trying to hear that.

[Big Bank]

You ain't got nothing going on. What you who with you?

[G Herbo]

They ain't on nothing. No. You ain't lying though. I got something going on. And that's. I think that's what really take you over the top though. Like this masters, it's his name. Name 757 mono. He from the rack too though. I ain't gonna lie. I fuck with him, his music hard. I fuck with shorty, he going crazy. And let me see who else going crazy out the rack, man. Damn. It's some other little shorties too. I can't even think of them though right now. Like I forgot they name. But they going crazy. The fuck I can't even any females. Yeah, hell yeah. Lamelo365 she from the hood. Lamelo. She from my hood. To a girl rap her Ass off. I ain't gonna lie. She raw as fuck. I really need. I'm gonna just do some shit with her. Just c. Cause she going too crazy. And she from my hood, so I gotta do some shit with her, pipe her up. For sure. She was.

[Big Bank]

Is it worth doing, like, going to a hood club in Chicago, doing like an after hour? Like, if you had a concert done.

[G Herbo]

I ain't gonna lie, you know, it's so crazy. Like, I just hit my home. My dj, this is my brother, my real dj, and my producer, he just booked me to do some shit in Chicago for the fourth. And everybody telling me, like, don't go, don't go. It ain't worth it. Like, everybody. Like every. Every day, somebody texts me, don't go to that shit, man. Fuck that shit. And I wasn't finna go. But I was in Chicago on the 4th. I'm like, man, I'm finna just pop in this shit real quick, you know? But it's just me, I think different. Cause I don't know. I be wanting to show love. That's where I come from. So I feel like I gotta move a certain way. Don't get me wrong, you know what I'm saying? I definitely gotta calculate my steps. But if I can't do that, what I'm doing it for? I'm out here trying to motivate the trenches. And I don't wanna go. I can't go. I gotta go. So it's like I ain't trying to put myself in the line of fire. Like, I'm not even thinking about that. You know what I'm saying? I'm always thinking about the. The worst possible outcome. At the end of the day, I'm prepared for it. I'm thinking about it. I know it's possible. Every time I walk into an environment, I'm thinking about that for sure. But I'm thinking about what I'm gonna do to get home, because I'm gonna get home. I'm going home for sure. So. Hell yeah, I still went, though. I ain't gonna lie. I just. Cause I wanted to feel it. It was cool. I ain't lie. That shit was treacherous, though. As soon as I walked in, I just felt like, oh, yeah. And when I do shit like that, I be showing love. But I be in that bitch mug, and I'm trying to see everything that's going on, everything in the crowd. I want to see your energy. I want to see if you looking at me like I'm looking at you at the end of the day, and I'm a show love, don't get me wrong. But I don't know. And then I thought about it, like, if I got to do that, maybe I shouldn't even be at that shit for real, you know what I'm saying? Because I think about it different. Like, you feel the love? Yeah, I felt the love. Hell yeah, for sure. But I just know the circumstances, you know what I'm saying? So even though I went, I just went just because I wanted to to feel like, oh yeah, Herb gonna still come back to the city and show love. But at the end of the day, it's certain shit I just gotta do it right, you know what I'm saying? Like certain like shit like that. I probably can't go to no shit like that no more. Cause it's too. I done outgrown it that I don't need to do that no more. But at least I did it just so you know.

[DJ Scream]

Can't say I ain't do it.

[G Herbo]

You can't say I ain't do it. You can't say I ain't gonna do.

[Big Bank]

It every week, but you can't say I ain't saying.

[G Herbo]

So next time if I get booked in Chicago, I gotta get booked at some bigger shit. I can't do that no more, you know. Cause if I feel like I gotta do that and be on point mug, I only need to go.

[Baby J]

It's too much energy.

[Big Bank]

Let know I'm with it, I'm with you with and all that.

[G Herbo]

I don't even be thinking like when I go through other in other clubs, I ain't going there like that. But in Chicago, I'm mug. And I just wanted to know like, no, I'm still like the same at the end of the day, you feel me? But I only want to have to do that for real. Because that energy, if I got to come in there with that energy, I don't even that gonna possibly happen. You feel what I'm saying? It'll possibly happen. Just cause like I'm not mugging because I want a to feel like I'm tough. I'm mugging because I'm really on point trying to be aware of my surroundings, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Bank]

Get mad at a for anything your music come on, you could be rapping your feel like you rapping them, rapping at them.

[G Herbo]

And that didn't happen. Like I didn't been in concerts and seeing looking like in previous concerts and like seeing looking because I'm seeing certain words and I guess they want to feel like I really mean it or feel like I'm talking to them or some shit. And I like I done really seen that like damn. And at certain times I didn't really look mug right back at and felt like I'm rapping the whole time. I'm like I gotta stop doing it. I can't even like now I don't even pay attention to the crowd. It is what it is.

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[Big Bank]

You could have did anything else but rap.

[G Herbo]

What you would have did, I would have went to hoop. I would have tried to play D1 basketball, then to try to go to the league. Man, I ain't gonna lie with the streets. If I wouldn't have really like stared over to the streets and I really dedicated myself to basketball all four years of high school, I would have probably, I could have probably did something.

[Big Bank]

But if rap, okay, after you chose rap and if that shit wouldn't have became lucrative for you, what you woulda did?

[G Herbo]

Shit, probably I would have definitely fucked around and did like, like real estate, just stay in Chicago because my daddy do real estate, you know what I'm saying? And I would have learned that under him, you know, because if I wouldn't have just been in the streets and just said it for real, like, I ain't gonna lie. I was so like just caught up in my neighborhood and going on around there. If I would have choose the good route, I would have did real estate. But if I would have just stayed me, I would have just been in the hood just thugging the whole time, you feel what I'm saying? Probably just had 100,000 or some like that. Been one of them couple hundred thousand in my hood, just out there just taking whatever come with that, you feel what I'm saying? If rap ain't working, I was just still stuck in my old ways and ain't thinking no positive way to make it out that I'll still be in the streets for real.

[Big Bank]

You ever had a moment where you.

[G Herbo]

Feel like, man, I'm this, hell yeah, hell yeah. That's what really made me like focus on just rap, you know what I'm saying? Like some shit happened and like I said, motherfucker then got in the chase or some crazy shit like that and niggas wind up shooting at me all type of shit. I'm like, man, this shit, boy, that shit over with, you know what I'm saying? I was making money off music already. You know, so I'm like, why is. I'm even.

[Big Bank]

No, I'm saying and make you say fuck rap.

[G Herbo]

Like, not for real. Like, hell no, I ain't gonna lie like it did though. Certain, like. Cause I ain't gonna lie when like.

[Big Bank]

Or getting frustrated with this shit.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, you'll get frustrated with some shit when you see like, like, like you said earlier, like, nigga don't really give you the respect you feel like you deserve, you know what I'm saying? And it's just the Internet. I think with the Internet, when you get tricked off of paying attention to the Internet and what the fans say, it'll make you be like, man, fuck it. Cause I done said that before though. Like, man, fuck this shit. I ain't even finna keep on trying to prove myself and doing that shit. But it's like just being a real nigga who. You proving yourself too at the end of the day, like, right? I had to really realize like, man, these fans gonna hate you today, love you tomorrow. I didn't hate you again, you know what I'm saying? And once I figured that out, it just motivated me to want to keep rapping, you know what I'm saying? But like the industry and you feel like you ain't. You gotta chase a record. I feel like you gotta be bigger than a certain person. Like, you know what I'm saying? That's what they try to make you do. Like even your so called fans, you'll be on your own shit. Like sometimes I get bored. I read my comments and shit like that. And the fans, they'll be like comparing you to other rappers and shit. Compare you to this person, all these, yeah, you need a song with him or you need a record like this. Oh, you falling off that trash and then see it and then like, if you ain't got thick skin that should have really make you want to give up. You gotta be, you gotta be like, man, hell no, I know I'm hard at the end of the day, like I know I'm hard, you know. And like it was a time where I wasn't traveling, I wasn't doing no shows or nothing. This is before the pandemic. I had got stuck in Chicago for like 10 months fighting the case. My judge ain't let me travel, travel. So I probably missed like at least like 3 million just to shows because I couldn't go nowhere like for 10, 11 months for real. And big ass looks. I miss rolling loud, all the rolling louds, all that. You know what I'M saying. And I was like, I. I was making music, but I wasn't dropping it because my wasn't like, my brand wasn't where I needed it to be anyway. I feel like my would have flopped the fault. It just dropped in the middle of that. So I had to overcome that. And while I'm overcoming it, that was when I'm reading the comments and seeing like, oh, yeah, this falling off. That ain't this.

[Big Bank]

You know, you can't do shit.

[G Herbo]

So that shit kind of did have me, like, wanting to give up for real. And like, I'm like, I can't though. So I just kept going to studio. This is right before PTSD dropped. That's what I was working on. That shit was, like, tough for me, you know what I'm saying? Like. Cause I wasn't making no money on the road. All I had was my ancillary money. So if I wasn't really, like, independent in my business, wasn't set up the way it was, I would have been fucked up, up for real. Like, wouldn't have been really seeing no money, you know what I'm saying? Because a lot of times, artists don't really see no money unless they doing shows and like that, you know? So I was spending a lot of money just being in Chicago. Like, I'm like, man, I ain't. And I had moved out my crib. All I had was my mama crib, my mama house. So I was staying downtown at hotels. And I'm telling myself, like, I'm not buying no condo because I'm not getting stuff. I'm not even trying to get comfortable here. Like, I'm Finn, just spend all this money in hotels and say it. So I'm spending a lot of money, but I ain't making no money, you know what I'm saying? I'm going to the studio. And it's like I went into a real slump. And I'm like, man, this frustrated really made me, like, feel like, damn, I had to question myself. Like, man, is this really finna work for me? You know what I'm saying? Just. Just knowing that and like, if really paying attention, that should just inspire them to not give up because you would go through them slumps where you really questioning yourself. And you seeing everything else around the world moving but you and you like, damn, man, is this getting ugly? Is it over with for me? Am I gonna, like, am I really gonna be a story? Like one of them artists that just did this and ain't do nothing else crazy?

[Big Bank]

They never Would.

[G Herbo]

What pulled you out of that, though? When I actually finished my album, like, when I was in the studio listening to my complete and I felt like, damn, this hard. Like, I know if the. When the world hear it, like, I got that confidence listening to my music. Like, man, man, when the world hit this, I know they gonna have to respect it. They gonna have to co. Sign it. Like, my whole album. When I heard and it was complete and I turned it in and I was. I had. Like, right before my album dropped in February, I had one last court date and I was betting on if I was gonna have to go sit down for my last gun chart, if I was gonna have to sit down or if the judge gonna throw it out and lift my trap. So I was betting on that. And I just had, like, high spirits. Like, man, I'm be good. I know I'm gonna be good. So when they lifted the. Like, probably the end of January, right before I dropped my. It just gave me a breath of fresh air. Like, all right, my shit in the drop, I could move around, I could go tour. So I went straight to LA and moved back out there. I already had a crib in la, but I just wasn't. I was. That was just sitting for like a year, you know what I'm saying? I had moved, went back to my crib, and when I dropped my. It was like, that shit ain't never happened. Like, it's like. You know, when you go through them dark times and shit, and then you get to the finish line, it just. It make you strong. It feel like that shit ain't never really happened. For real. You forget about it. It was like a breath of fresh air. So I had to, like, I had to go through that to know, like, man, it's always light at the end of the tunnel. I'm like, fuck it. I'm just gonna take whatever come with this shit now. Like, whatever frustrations or whatever, like adversity that come with this shit, you just gotta take it and just lean towards it. That's what I did the whole time. Just lean towards like, man, fuck. And I'm gonna get through this shit. And I got through it.

[DJ Scream]

What's the biggest key you think to being successful as an independent artist? Cause a lot of people kind of like, man, that independent shit too hard or I ain't got the money for it or whatever.

[G Herbo]

It is hard, though. It is hard, right?

[DJ Scream]

What's some of the keys, though?

[G Herbo]

You gotta have good internal, like, business. You gotta have good internal structure. Like, I got partnership you know what I'm saying? With Republic, with label services and in grooves with District.

[DJ Scream]

Okay, so you say you got a partner, so you're not signed to them, but you.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, no, for sure. I. We just partner in Universal right now. Right. So I feel. And it's the. It's the truth, you know, Anybody could contest to it who actually know. If I didn't have a good internal business set up already, it wouldn't work for me, you know what I'm saying? Like, as far as my release schedule, the way I release music, the way I gotta package my shit and have it bundled to deliver to them, because all I supposed to really do is deliver. And then they just amplify this shit and make it what it's called supposed to be. But you gotta have a good business set up internally to like, make sure your is structured the right way. So you could go and get this independent, you know what I'm saying? Situation, or you could go partnering and have deals with like, these big companies that's just gonna make your, you know, reach the people that it's supposed to reach, you know what I'm saying? So you're gonna have to spend money. That's the first thing, though. You gotta spend money, though. So you got to be willing to spend money and. And know I'm spending money for my. So if you spending a couple hundred thousand dollars on marketing and you feel like, damn, I should have bought a Richard, I supposed to bought a Richard. You lost already. You know what I'm saying? You got to understand, like, all right, you balling in itself. That is balling. If I'm able to go spend a million dollars, a half a million dollars, whatever, right then on the spot to make sure my do what it's supposed to do shit right, you can't tell me I ain't bossed up, I ain't gotta have no Richard, none of that shit, you know what I'm saying? I'm able to put my money right back into my stomach myself, and then the profit come later. So I might spend my liquid cash, put a couple million into my. And then just really waiting. You making a sacrifice, you know what I'm saying? You putting your money back into your. And waiting to see what it's gonna do. And at the end of the day, the way like the digital and all this set up, you could actually see your analytics, you know what I'm saying? And what you projected to do and how much money you projected to make, I didn't seen it with my own Ass. So if you believe in your shit and you know that, why not and spend some money? And you know, you projected to make this. You feel what I'm saying? So that's what it is. It's kind of like, I ain't a lot the music industry really like the streets. At the end of the day, if you know how to hustle a little bit, you kind of could get it, you know what I'm saying? If you know how to hustle and spend money on yourself, it's like investing in your trap in a sense, you know what I'm saying? When you invest in your trap, shit, it's gonna blossom, you gonna make profit, you know. So with independent, it's just all about understanding. Like, you gonna have to put in the most work, you know, you got to pay for your own videos, you got to pay for your own marketing. And then you could partner with, you know, the label marketing or certain marketing and merchandise companies and like that. But you got to figure that out internally. They're not going to figure out your merch ideas. Yo, what you got to do for your shows as far as touring, you know what I'm saying? You got to partner with people. When you independent, you got to already already put the work in and know, all right, I'm gonna hit these cities. I'm finna shoot these videos. I'm gonna promote this single, or I ain't gonna promote a single at all. I'm just gonna turn my project in and let it do what it do. And they gotta trust you to know, like, damn, he ain't got a single, but shit, we gonna still fuck with it. Cause I feel like it's gonna do this, this, and this. You know what I'm saying? So it's a long way, though. It's like you taking the stairs, you're not taking the elevator. For sure, you gotta grow little by little being an independent artist. But that's all they care about at the end of the day. As long as you're not doing this and you doing this, you ain't gotta grow this like this way. You feel what I' you could just do this and they gonna still with you because they making money and you making money and you doing all the hard work, you know what I'm saying? It's like you just delivering some. They gonna work. But all the hard work, you willing to do that yourself, within your team, you know what I'm saying? So with being independent, you got to work like that. And you feel me, what's the first look complicated.

[DJ Scream]

What's the first. What's the. What's the.

[G Herbo]

But what's the.

[DJ Scream]

What's the first team member you think you need to have? Because people, artists always. I need a manager. I need a manager, manager, manager. But I'll be like, the manager ain't just gonna solve your problems if you ain't got nothing going on they can't manage. So I always tell people, man, get you a lawyer and the engineer first.

[G Herbo]

That's me, you know.

[DJ Scream]

But what you think?

[G Herbo]

You definitely should have a lawyer. Automatically you should have a lawyer. And that's a good setup, though. A lawyer, engineer, and you should have a PR or a publicist, and. And then the manager could come after that, you know what I'm saying? But if you got a good pr, a good publicist, I feel like, like, shit, that's kind of like having a manager in itself, you know what I'm saying? They gonna get you the looks that you need. You know what I'm saying? And a lot of times, like, a manager is somebody who gon go hustle for you. Don't get me wrong. They gonna go hustle for you. But if you don't got the right manager, that's gonna get you the right looks, you just. It's like you hustling backwards. You just getting all this shit, and then you hustling just. You don't even know where you going. Nigga done did all this shit and been in every city and made some money, but your brand ain't grown at all. You feel what I'm saying? So you have, like. I feel like you need a publicist or a PR that's gonna get you the right looks and get you the right brand, and. And they gonna ask you what you. Look, what you trying to, like, accomplish within yourself in this amount of time. And when you do that, they gonna go out and try to get it. And if they not getting it, at least you see, you know what I'm saying? With a manager, you ain't really seeing that because they just bring you money. I got this opportunity. I got this, this, this. So nigga be eating, but your brand not growing. You feel what I'm saying? Especially being independent, you need that.

[Baby J]

So if there were three things that you could make sure that your sons understood about life, what would they be?

[G Herbo]

It'd be one that the world crew. Ain't nothing gonna come to you, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's why I'm like, I'm tough on my kids a little bit. Like, on the Internet, it might look like I'm just, You know I'm saying. But at the end of the day, I want my. My kids, especially with them being boys, they gotta have, like, ferociousness, you know what I'm saying? Because at the end of the day with them, especially with them being my kids, they not gonna get no break. I mean, you heard him, son. You had this easy. They gonna try to knock them right on their ass. So you gotta have, like. You gotta be prepared for that. You gotta have thick skin for that, you know what I'm saying? That's one thing. Two, it'll be. You gotta. You gotta be a hard worker. Like, you gotta really go hustle. Because I could have all this shit and I could give it to you, but I want my kids to be able to take what I get them and make more a whole nother level, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's what. And you gotta learn that early. Like, I wanna be. I don't know how I'm gonna do it, but it's some way, or all the big shit that my kids get in life, I want them to have to, like, work for. And not necessarily, like, work and go make money. Just, like, put in some kind of effort, put in some type of effort to make me proud, to want to give you this shit, you know what I'm saying? And shit. You could have a Ferrari at 16 if you do, you know what I'm saying? If you just working it, you not on no lazy shit because you got it. And that's one thing that I like and that. That scared me, like, you know what I'm saying? Being somebody that got money and able to do so much for their kids, like, you get comfortable early, you know what I'm saying? And you want to give your kids the world because I worked hard for this shit. So I want to be able to spoil them. But it's like, how do you. It's a certain way. You got to do it. I ain't found that balance yet. Like, how do I spoil my kids without making them sport, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, and the last thing would be to respect women for sure. Just respect women, man, you know what I'm saying? I feel like we're doing that. If you respect women, it'll just take you a long way, you know what I'm saying? It don't got to be just. Just your woman. I feel like you just get blessings in life. Just respect the women longer.

[Baby J]

It lengthens your years.

[G Herbo]

So I definitely teach them that, you know? Cause nowadays, like, shit, kids just ain't big on respect, period. Especially towards women, you know what I'm saying? And seeing that shit on, like the Internet will make you definitely, like, not respect women, you know what I'm saying? I feel like those three things, once you got that, once you got like, discipline and like, ferociousness, to understand that the world is against you already and not being afraid of that and just willing to go conquer it. And you gotta hustle and you gotta like. If you respect women, shit, you got self respect, Dink. You know what I'm saying? Like, you ain't gonna let nobody disrespect you. Just cause the respect you got for like, women and them. The people who raised you, you know what I'm saying? So I feel like if you got them three, man, you gonna be good. For sure.

[Baby J]

For sure. And then another thing too, that I always ask people, like, when they're here, is if you could pick like one or two things that you've never done in your life that you wanna do, like on some Bucket List type shit before you die, what would they be.

[G Herbo]

One for me, probably jump off an airplane. I don't know why I want to do some like that.

[DJ Scream]

Jump off an airplane.

[G Herbo]

I'm scared of that, though. I'm scared of it.

[Baby J]

So it'll be like you're fighting your fears type.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, I'm scared of that type of. But I want to do it though, you know what I'm saying? Like, even like when I seen it on TV and movies and that should be looking fun.

[Big Bank]

Why they don't let a jump by itself though? Why they gotta lay off.

[G Herbo]

See, that's what I want to do.

[DJ Scream]

You better say your life, if it don't go right.

[G Herbo]

Yeah. No, you ain't lying though. I want to jump by myself, though. After you learn how to do it. Yeah. Nah, that'll be just my luck. I do that fumble with some, man.

[DJ Scream]

Let y' all have that one.

[G Herbo]

I ain't gonna lie. Yeah, see, I ain't thinking about it like that. You got a profession. You gotta be a woman or something and tell her, man, let me get a girl laying on my. Yeah, you gotta do it like that. The second shit I do on my bucket list after I jump off a plane, man, and it'll be like, I don't know, I want to go somewhere, like some monumental. Like, see one of the. One of the. One of the wonders of the world and shit like that, you know? Like, I don't really travel. Like I never as long as I still been like making money and have been an artist. I ain't really travel. Only been to like three countries project. That's it. I've been in Jamaica that one time. Well I've been twice. I went with me and Big Bro went to Jamaica before. I've been to Canada and I've been Mexico and London with Juice wrld. That was it. Yeah. No, hell yeah. That was like them was some of the best times I had in my life. But just doing that, I want to travel. Like I ain't gonna lie.

[Baby J]

Like non work related travel.

[G Herbo]

I want to take some time while I'm just traveling. Just me and my girl and my kids and just some shit like that, you know what I'm saying? Like my family, my mama take my mama to go do see some shit like that. That's what I really want to do. Like I ain't gonna lie. That's why I be hustling like real hard right now. Cause I want to just take like a real year off and not to disappoint my fans. And I'm probably gonna still put music out, but I wanna just take a year off to do whatever I wanna do right. Cause I've been working too hard for too long. I've been doing this shit now 10 years. I need to chill a little bit.

[Baby J]

Chill. Yeah.

[DJ Scream]

G herbo we appreciate you my brother. Congratulations on your new project 25. You know what I'm saying? Let's continue love and success to. Any final words for the big fact supporters?

[G Herbo]

Yeah, man. For big facts. You know, I, I ain't, I wanted to come here personally and I'll, you know, because the, the, the we kick and we gonna talk on here, I don't be able to talk about, you know what I'm saying? I feel like other blogs and other like not even blogs, just other podcasts and other, other outlets, you know I'm saying media outlets, you come on, they not gonna really like pick your brain and make you say some that want to motivate or inspire somebody else.

[Baby J]

You know, focus on the negative.

[G Herbo]

Exactly. You know what I'm saying? Like I want to come here so I could be able to talk about stuff from a real one. Like from get a woman perspective from Jay talk to you scream, get your perspective, talk to Big Bro. Cause I know like Big Bro is like he a real nigga. He with real. You know what I'm saying? That's why I do it. I want to motivate the streets for Real, you know what I'm saying? And motivate anybody that's listening, even if you're not in the streets, just motivate you to want to do something, you know what I'm saying? That's why I really wanted to come on here, so I can talk about that type of shit. That's why I said, this the culture, bro. We need, like. We need more people to come on and like, talk about like, that that's gonna help somebody do something, you know what I'm saying? Like, all that other. Don't really be about nothing, for real, you know what I'm saying? And just. And understanding that and knowing it, and when you seeing it from the outside looking in, you feel me, it make you wanna like, like break. Bro was just saying, like, man, here a nigga hear this and see this and be like, nah, here. I'm finna keep going. Shit. Herb did. Herbo did fuck all that other shit, you know what I'm saying? Cause at the end of the day, life gonna be hard. They gonna put like. It's gonna be pressure on everybody who doing something. No matter if you're an artist, an athlete, whatever you doing, you know what I'm saying? But when you lean towards the. The pressure, you're gonna overcome it, you know? And I feel like you only gonna hear like that on Big Facts. You ain't gonna be able to talk about like that on here, you know what I'm saying? So that's why I with it again. Yes, sir.

[DJ Scream]

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[G Herbo]

Go. You're listening to Big Facts with Big bank and DJ Scream.

[Big Bank]

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[DJ Scream]

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[Big Bank]

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[G Herbo]

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[Big Bank]

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[G Herbo]

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[Big Bank]

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[G Herbo]

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[G Herbo]

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