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Country Wayne
Big bank and DJ Scream bring you Big Facts, the number one podcast in
Big Bank
the streets a lot for Revolt Studios. It's time for Big Facts, Big Bank. What up DJ Scream?
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I'm here.
Big Bank
Country Wayne is back on Big Facts today.
Interviewer / Host
Hey, brother.
Big Bank
What's up, Wayne?
Country Wayne
What's up? I love it and it's feeling bigger.
Big Bank
Hey man. Added a couple more zeros to that bank account since last time when you pulled up on his, right?
Country Wayne
Oh, you did?
Big Bank
No, you, you. Hey, talk about me.
Country Wayne
Hey man, you know, we all right.
Big Bank
Yeah.
Country Wayne
Yeah, I'm blessed. Yeah, I'm definitely blessed. It's been. It's different since then. For sure.
Big Bank
Yeah, for sure. For sure. For sure, man. What man? You know, from. From top to bottom, like where you are currently? I. I know that you're never just like content and happy and I'm done working. You still want to work and accomplish a lot more. But where are you currently? You feel like on your journey?
Country Wayne
I'm currently at that space where you, you know, is at that point of no return. You know what I'm saying? I'm at that space when you finally hit a level like, I ain't going back. You know what I'm saying? God had taken me out. It's like, only thing gonna take Me out now, if God come through. And health, life strategies. Like, you know, I feel like. You know, I see. I see the moon now. Like, I feel like. I feel like I got the wings flapping for sure.
Big Bank
Who you think most proud of you? Out of everybody in your circle, Your family, your dogs, every day, like, who you think most proud of what you accomplished?
Country Wayne
The most proud part of my kids.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
Cause they ain't. You know what I'm saying? They. They seen it from a clear eye view. You know, my family's still seeing it from. We come from poverty. So poverty get in your way, a little bit of your vision. Cause you still got your ambitions. But the kids, like, hold up. We seen them here, Tony. Them like, hold up. We was in the projects, you know what I'm saying? 2008, 9, and now, you know, 2010, they still in. Probably we're still in project 2010, 11, 12. So it's like, my kids, my two oldest sons in my. My children, man. Like, even when I did my special, my daughter Melissa cried. So it's like, yeah, they more proud of me than anybody. Everybody else trying to see what they can get.
Big Bank
So you said, try to see what they can get.
Country Wayne
Everybody. Everybody pulling. But I understand them, though. I. You know, hey, man, everybody scratched everything off their list.
Big Bank
So what you doing? Them cash out requests and them Zelle requests, What you. What you do with them?
Country Wayne
And most of them, man, I ain't gonna lie. I just sent them.
Big Bank
Okay.
Country Wayne
I just send them at the end of the day.
Big Bank
You need your phone number.
Interviewer / Host
Hey, let me ask you something. How you. What kind of. What kind of energy you get from your hometown?
Country Wayne
Oh, my hometown. It's like unbelievable. Like, the unbelievable energy. But it ain't that. It's like, I ain't really connected down there like that no more. All the way. But it's like. Because I'm from a real small town, so it's like 3,000 people. It ain't really no out of Atlanta. Different.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
I always looked at y' all like, well, y' all got it good. Cause you know what I'm saying, y', all, it was so big. But in them home towns, I get love, but I was already. If it don't feel no different than them, because I was already kind of famous. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Before I pop, it's like. It's like a trouble when trouble. Trouble was to Atlanta.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Country Wayne
That's where I was, my hometown. So it was like they already felt it, and it was Just like it's been a long run.
Interviewer / Host
Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Country Wayne
So it ain't never felt like I blew up to them. Cause it was just. It just kind of did like this.
Interviewer / Host
You always been popular. You always been that dude.
Country Wayne
Yeah, my uncle. I took their face. So my uncle and daddy, them were popular in the street. They were dope. They were the popular dope boy with the car. Early 90s, you know what I'm saying? So I just attached to them and it always. They never felt it.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
Ain't nothing happened. Cause I ain't still. Ain't been on no big movie or nothing. Like, I'm still. Everybody be like, they think I'm in movies, but I ain't never been to nothing. I did Netflix special.
Interviewer / Host
Nah, you big, though.
Country Wayne
Yeah, but. But it's. It's the big. The way that, you know, they can
Interviewer / Host
see that for you already. Like, we can see.
Country Wayne
Yeah. It ain't nothing, but Ain't not gonna Somebody surprise. Yeah. They see it.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
They're not shocked.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Country Wayne
I get what you're saying.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Big Bank
Yeah. Nah, like you. You know, you big. When it's like. I'm talking about my oldest of aunties and uncles and uncles and aunties be on Country Wayne. I mean, it's like they soap opera.
Country Wayne
Yeah.
Big Bank
They don't miss it. They be on Facebook. Country Wayne. Country Wayne.
Country Wayne
Country. I love them, too. I love them, Auntie.
Big Bank
Yeah.
Interviewer / Host
Now they love you.
Country Wayne
I love them. That crowd, man, that's the crowd I always wanted.
Big Bank
Yeah.
Country Wayne
Yes. I went after them because I knew nobody wasn't going after me. Because I was like the other crowd. Everybody had to share them. Cause I thought about, as a comedian, the other crowd, you never gonna really grab them. Cause they rock with music. So if I'm in a town and I got that crowd, but Little Baby and Future come through, that show ain't selling out.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
But the aunties. Yeah, you have to be Frank. Beverly and Mace.
Big Bank
Yeah.
Country Wayne
Yeah. They only want to see a few people. So I'm like, hey, yeah. You know, So I always wanted that crowd.
Interviewer / Host
Now, that makes sense.
Country Wayne
I always wanted that crowd. I knew nobody wasn't aiming at them, so I was like, all right, I'm gonna get that crowd. Then whatever I do with this crowd, that's my spending money. Because they switch out on you. This crowd right here, you got a career.
Big Bank
Yeah.
Interviewer / Host
You say, like the. The popular crowd, the. That's chasing the everyday. They'll switch out on you. Yeah.
Country Wayne
Why you. Yeah, they chasing life. I learned that when I was in the project in my baby mama, you know what I'm saying, When she was my ex wife too. But they. Every rapper that used to get hot, they used to switch out on them. They're like, they won't. One, one month, they on Wiz Khalifa. And I remember when Wale came out then I'm like, I'm like, hold up. Every three months it's somebody else. I'm like, I don't never want that crowd. I like, I don't never want. Cause you can't hold them.
Big Bank
So you don't think them like true fans. What are they like if they. Because fans are supposed to be fanatics. They wish you the good news.
Country Wayne
They fans of the cultures. Yeah. They consumers. So they fans of whatever that is. So you got. It's like a gumbo pot.
Big Bank
Got you.
Country Wayne
Versus, like, you know, you might go, Anita Baker got fans. Mary J. Blige got fans. I'm a. I'm a Mary J. Blige and Monica, them fans. So I'm like, I don't care who
Interviewer / Host
some rappers have, like, Jeezy got fans.
Country Wayne
But it switched when the Internet came. You know, G's and TI Was still hot before the Internet came. Yeah. So everybody who caught that era, yeah, they got fans. But when you jumped into this new game, yeah, you saw the Internet. They fans of the culture. It's like whatever it is.
Interviewer / Host
The hot. The hot space.
Country Wayne
That why Jay Z made that song. Like, man, he was talking about you cheating on me, but he was talking about fame. He was rapping my fame. Sometimes you with Drake, sometimes you would. Because it's like, it's that I. And I picked that up early. Cause I used to study people when I was in the streets. I was always studying. Because my mama knows to move like that. Whatever dope boy was hot. All her friends at their house. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, man, hey, I've never. I know how I go.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah, it come with it.
Country Wayne
Hey, I seen, bro. I see. Hey, man, it's like when boos was. When Boosie got out of jail, I knew certain rappers was gonna fall off. Cause I was like the streets. Remember when Boosie was locked up like Gotti was? You know what I'm saying? God ain't fall off, but it like you book Gotti. Them towns booking Gotti, it was like, Gotti, Boosie. Yeah, right, Gucci. You know what I'm saying? And when certain people get locked up, this person go up. It's like that in the street. If it's Three dope boys in the town. I know if you go to jail, I' ma sell a few more deonces. Yeah.
Interviewer / Host
Real shit.
Country Wayne
Hey, hey. I know I'm gonna sell a few more of the ounces, so. Because it was like, you know, So I feel like that part of the game is like that. And I think that's why nobody in that game you like. You be like. And rap, you can't, because rap is so big. You got white fans, too. But in. In the coming game, when you get stuck in that, you can't really get the money because you don't know. You fighting with the economy at the point. It ain't even them. It's an ecosystem.
Interviewer / Host
Do you think the consumers got them? They entertain about you falling off, too. Yeah, they entertain about you falling out. Like, oh, they can't. Them. They'll be predicting it for you.
Country Wayne
Predicting it. Like, they do me like that on Instagram. Like, yo, Wayne, don't fell off. They always think I don't fell off when I don't post. I was like, y'.
Interviewer / Host
All.
Country Wayne
That's why I don't depend on y'.
Big Bank
All.
Country Wayne
They thought when I start doing drip. Yeah. See this what happened with them. I gave them drip because I knew they. So when I gave them drip, they was excited. Cuz he, like, he finally feeding us. Cuz everybody see me be like, but Wayne don't give us no content. He always catered to the aunties. Yeah. You know, but when I did drip, they'd be like, yo, yo. Then when I stopped doing drill, yeah, you gonna fall off dead. I posted something like a couple months ago. They like, yo, why ain't gonna fell off? Now he. He see he need Instagram. Cause that culture think you need them. Like, your auntie don't got some money. You asking your auntie for money? Yeah. I'm like, bro, if I had to choose, I love everybody.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
But I'm choosing your auntie and your uncle, though.
Interviewer / Host
They gonna engage.
Country Wayne
They gonna engage, tell somebody. They gonna tell somebody.
Interviewer / Host
Somebody else who got money.
Country Wayne
And they ain't trying to be famous. Yeah, they all. And they happy, man. They get $70,000 a year, man. Them folk would be happy than somebody with 7 million. They have a cookout, play some spade. They ain't trying to be famous. They know how to enjoy life now. Everybody trying to be famous. So it's like, ain't no true fan. Cause if Joker got 10,000 followers, you can't tell him he ain't famous and he's hood. So it's like they really not. It ain't the fans. Like it used to be. Like when I was a fan of TI Back in the day, it was a different game. It's like, you know, so I. That Internet just different now, man.
Interviewer / Host
How you skip over the antics of the. Just of the whole entertainment business, man.
Country Wayne
Just understanding that it's just like it was in the streets. So everybody who from the streets kind of understand the game. I think everybody who really, really from the streets, for real and not on the streets was in it. You really took risk out there. You're gonna understand that it's the same thing that it always has been. The Internet, just a big version of it. So I'd be like, nah, that ain't gonna work. I ain't gonna keep doing that. Cause Imma fall off. That's why I. I start doing drill. Cause I'm like, he eventually gone. He gonna eventually fall off. So I left while he was up, you know, like stopping my ears here. Like he just. Just repetitiveness of sin stuff in your past and use the knowledge for it to see it in your future.
Interviewer / Host
What about like all the negative, like being in the blogs for like. Cause you skip over all that. How you. How you remain out of that loop.
Country Wayne
Okay, man, I don't really. My only. My only advice ever been women. So it's like everything else I don't really stay in. But the negative stuff they try to put out there about me with women and stuff, I ain't gonna lie. I don't care. I ain't gonna lie. If it ain't affecting my money. I don't really care. Like I never. I don't care.
Interviewer / Host
So you don't care to respond to nothing?
Country Wayne
Like, yeah, yeah. I don't never respond. They'll never get a response. They'll never get a response out of me. Because I'm like, if this finna make sense for some money, you know what I'm saying? Or you know, I respond to certain people if they come at my money. Because you talk about my craft and what I do and how I do it. Like that's why you don't never even
Interviewer / Host
see me on it.
Country Wayne
I don't even. I don't even never talk about no black person for real. Cause I'm like at the end of the day long, people get money and they ain't abusing what his name. I don't play with people money like that. Cause like sometimes even when those sports cast be going too hard, I'm like, man, let buddy get his Money.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
I'm like, we should have a cold. I'm like, end of the day.
Interviewer / Host
Cause it can affect that man Mental
Country Wayne
and have him off the game for Realtor. And it might affect how a person look at them.
Big Bank
Yeah.
Country Wayne
So you got spending the money. Yeah. Who's spending the money? Who? Who? You know, I mean, like, I met a Dak Prescott, but I ain't say nothing. He got a country. I still ain't saying nothing. I want to get his contract, even though I couldn't affect him not getting his contract.
Big Bank
Yeah.
Country Wayne
I'm like, hold up, man, you got lit. I don't really get in that. Because, you know, that junk kind of. That's kind of dangerous a little bit mess around and say the wrong thing about somebody. Then in the streets, you kind of know who in your town. Like, man, I don't know who these people. Who do you people got out here, man? So I'd be like, like, nah, I don't really. Man, I don't care about. Man, ain't nothing on Internet comments or nothing never bothered me.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah, you got to be made of steal for this.
Country Wayne
Oh, you got to. Because no comments is controlling. The comments are controlling the world. Everybody act like they don't care, but don't comments. It's controlling. When people see one bad comment, boy, they'll get that energy. Now 100 comments, one bad one. Now these, these, these 99 other ones. That was good. You ain't responding to them, but it's like, I just. I'm grateful. I'm grateful for what? The good that come with it. And they ain't got to go to prison. So long as I ain't facing that no more, I'd be like, I'm good, man.
Big Bank
How important is it to stay on top of your business? Because you be on top of your business.
Country Wayne
Like, I feel like you stay on your top of your business more than your art. Cause if your business ain't in order, you can't be the artist you want to be. Me and T, I was just talking about it. I said, TI If a lot of rappers, business ain't right. I know why y' all stop rapping. Cause when you look at that deal and realize how much money they done made off that song and you ain't made nothing, you not gonna be able to rap the same. Cause basically you got raped, so you traumatized.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
Whether you know it or not. Like, if you go to a therapist, I bet a therapist to tell them that. Because if I'm in a business and I Do it. If I do some content. And I know they making this much money and I ain't, I ain't making none of it. I'm not gonna post no more. Because it's like, I don't even want you to make money now. Because I'm traumatized. So I think business, when your business right, man, you a better artist. Because at first, you don't know. At first you just happen to be an artist. Then they give you that shoulder. What they trick us with was show money. Because once you get booked for a show, you know we ain't never had nothing. So you get 50, 100, you like. But if this was big enough for you to go and do a show, imagine how much the source is making. But they threw that show money at us. Cause they like, they not gonna never pay attention. But then you start hearing you like, hold up, man. When you find out what this really made, you like, hold up. This one song made more than I made my career. Ain't no way I'd be able to be an artist. You ain't gonna it like we in the street, right? Like one time, at one time, my daddy, you know what I'm saying? We were doing what we were doing. We found out he got locked up with a dude we was shopping with, you know what I'm saying? And we found out what he was really getting for, for real. And the middleman was tearing our head off. I was out in the streets and I was still hurt. Cause I'm out here like, God damn. You know what I'm saying? I'm out here supposed to be paying 800 a piece, and I'm paying a thousand a piece. The dude was selling for the dude in the middle that my daddy trust who ain't had no money. That dude who always know somebody, who with it. This dude ain't have nothing. But my daddy just like to smoke with him. He's his partner. Find out when he went locked up this dude and it hurt me then and I was done. So imagine if I'm doing something and you find out that, hey man, look, this was made this and I ain't getting nothing. So how do I supposed to go in the studio and rap unless I rap about that?
Interviewer / Host
You right, that's gonna be hard.
Country Wayne
And I can't rap about that because now I don't told my fans I'm a boss. I'm a boss. So nobody never wanna talk about it. It's like they traumatized for real. And I think before anybody start any business, any artist man, do not start that before you learn the business. Cause the day your business, you going to get bitter, and you're gonna start taking it out on your fans yourself. And nobody's telling them that. Because when your business right, you are a good artist. It's hard to miss because you're so happy. Yeah, you get that beginning feeling because
Interviewer / Host
you're like, oh, man, you just said some. Then it's real talk. Your business ain't right. You can't be right.
Country Wayne
You can't be right.
Interviewer / Host
Cause you knowing you, you damn near working for free. You feel like for free.
Country Wayne
You know it. You only want to. You only want to. He still got money. So it's like, people like, man, you better be great for what you got. Listen here, man. I'm telling you, that's what I've seen. The soul of people. My favorite artists. I'm watching them, and I paid attention. I told me. And Tip was just talking. I say, bro, that would it be. When they fight, at first, they rapping for fun, then they blow up. And I'm like, why they stop? You know what I'm saying? You start hearing the artists. But I'm like, dang, that's what happened.
Big Bank
Yeah.
Country Wayne
To all the artists back in the day. You know what I'm saying? And then they wonder why Kanye crazy. I. When Kanye went crazy, I'm like, when you see them deals and know what you mean, man, he just the one real enough. He acting out like a bad child. Like. Yeah. Hey, man.
Big Bank
Yep.
Country Wayne
Hey, man, hold up, dog. We're supposed to have 10 billion. Yep.
Interviewer / Host
Do y' all know how much we making? Yeah, that's what he's saying. Do y' all know how much we really worth?
Country Wayne
Nah, they don't know, boy. Huh?
Big Bank
That the game. That's the game. In any business, somebody got to make more than somebody else.
Country Wayne
No, but it's bad. Not off you. The product ain't got to be that much.
Big Bank
But you got people signing your network.
Country Wayne
They make and I make good.
Big Bank
No, they make. I'm sure you take good care of.
Country Wayne
I share the numbers with them. That's how good I pay them.
Big Bank
I got.
Country Wayne
Think about this, right? If I got somebody on Facebook, all right? And they work with me, I don't ever say for me, and I'm paying them a million dollars a year. How is somebody on a network can't pay their people that I'm not making nowhere near what they making. But I was looking at what made me do it. I'm like. Because they. People come to My platform for free. Yeah, because they want to be famous. I could have really charged people to be on there. I was making so much money, I got to share this. Like, it's hard when your heart. Right, man, you can't do that. It be too much.
Big Bank
So I'm like, I feel it.
Country Wayne
I was like, man, hey, bro, Mike, I ain't gonna lie. He was like, no, bro, I'm happy to knock, bro. Trust me, man. Take this, man. Cause I'm. I'm all right. You feel what I'm saying? I make mine. But I think. But that's why they're so happy. They do miracles. They be like, hey, man, I'm finna go shoot this. And my boy Bridge went and shot something in Montana. Chicago. He. He got there old block. Yeah, but when you getting paid right, you become a different. Yeah, they. They messed up the business. Not paying people right. If you pay them right, imagine what the game energy.
Interviewer / Host
They gonna have the energy.
Country Wayne
Because now they're gonna find a way to get, get, get from you. Yeah, you're gonna find a way to get it back. Some kind of. Some kind of way. Or they mindset. You don't want nobody thinking about how to get you back. So, yeah, they make a. They man's money out there, man, because, you know, I. I ain't doing it, but I ain't doing the content. But it's networks. You go on these networks, but you gotta know. You gotta kind of know to know what to ask for, too. Like, I ain't scared to ask part of that business. Because once you know the business, and then if you do know, they don't want you to talk. You've been working in the garage with your dad every week, Monday to Sunday, trying to get the old school up and running. Today, after all the hard work, y' all finally finished it. So you have that feeling of accomplishment. You did it. Then your dad throws you the keys and says those three magic words. All yours, son. Yep. That same car belonged to your grandpa. And that your dad helped him fix is yours. Three generations right there keeping the tradition alive. But if you ask dad to really keep the tradition going, you need to get insurance. And you already know you need to get State Farm. Because your agent, well, he gets tradition, too. His dad was an agent, his grandpa too. So he gets you. Generation to generation. Remember to choose the agents that your family counted on. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is dead.
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want more than what they got already until they find out they could have got more. That's when they be upset. Like, you gotta think a up coming out the streets or coming out the hood. They gonna agree to anything to get their chance. Yeah, and then you're gonna be upset once or broke. You ain't gotta be coming out street. Just been broke. Yeah, he could have been a college student, but you broke. You finna get in the game. And you, you know, in the D, people can put you in the game. You all right, y' all can give me a shot. They really thinking the people doing them a favor. Yeah, but they got the talent. You get what I'm saying?
Country Wayne
Yep.
Interviewer / Host
That's how I beat. That'd be the mindset from a broke standpoint.
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Interviewer / Host
Once you start making that money you like you say, you go back and see your contract and your lawyer and all these people start telling you, hey, God damn. And she do take so much crap.
Country Wayne
I'm like, oh, Lord Jesus. I. I'm the type of person. I just. I quit too, man. We got to figure this out, man. I can't. I can't go through that.
Big Bank
So you. Did you. Did you get a lawyer?
Country Wayne
Who, me?
Big Bank
Yeah.
Country Wayne
Not at first. I just had. I was just. I just had. I ain't gonna lie, man. I. I went to school in the streets where it just. Certain stuff just don't make sense. Now, they came to me with a deal one time, you know what I'm saying? It was like they were like 8 million guaranteed every year. And 80% of what I make, I wasn't even. I was only making around that time, like six. I'm like, damn. How they gonna give me more than one? So Mike was like, bro, take that, My boy Mike and Brad were like, man, take it, man. Cause he. They were scared they gonna stop me. I said, bro, if they offering me that, it's something they gonna. It's something they gonna see why they offer me that something up under the. I sit back, I'm like, no, I'm straight. I answer something ignorant because I'm like, I'm gonna see. You know what I'm saying? Like, no, I'm straight, man.
Interviewer / Host
Why they offer me that?
Country Wayne
Why they are.
Interviewer / Host
Maybe I ain't looking at myself. I probably looking.
Country Wayne
Yeah. Why y' all offer me that? So I ain't take the deal. And thank God I didn't.
Big Bank
Yeah.
Country Wayne
You know what I'm saying? Cause they finna. Well, where I'm at now. They. Oh, Lord, they would have been tearing my head off then I wouldn't want
Interviewer / Host
to post just by even being in your business.
Country Wayne
And by being in my business, they'll finish right now. Oh, my God. They would have been. They would have been getting so much free money that I wouldn't be able to share. Then I have to cut the people.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
Because they in it too much. You see what I'm saying? So it's like that business, man. You just got to, man. Cause if not, I'm telling you, man, it messes. It messes up the art. Imagine being like. Imagine being in the studio and you just found out your song made $90 million and you only got a million of that. And they and your fans telling you to make your best song.
Big Bank
It might be a little different in music because somebody. Somebody got to spend money on you. I ain't saying 90. Now you write about.
Country Wayne
No, I understand that.
Big Bank
Yeah.
Country Wayne
But at the same time, it's like. It's like when you understand what content make, not just music. You feel what I'm saying? Everything. You know, music is the example that the culture understand. Because we all tried in some shape, form, or fashion. So I use that subject. But it's in everything.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah. Yeah.
Country Wayne
The understanding what the gift and give God gave you really worth, you know, but you got to have that. It's a mentality from the beginning. Because when I was popping in the streets, my baby mama laughed at me one time because they asked me to go to the club. I ain't never go to the club for you. I said, man, they're gonna pay me 800 just to come.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
And they laughed at me, huh?
Interviewer / Host
You ain't no rapper. You wasn't there.
Country Wayne
I wasn't nothing but a popular street dude.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah. Pay me the.
Country Wayne
She laughed. And her friend Lucy, they gonna see this. They laughed at me like, who? I ain't think he is. But that mentality. I wasn't going to the club. Cause I'm like, I'm popular. And people know I'm coming. They gonna show up. So it was a mentality. And my hometown used to laugh at me when I used to have that mentality. But I wouldn't go to the club. I would not go to the club. Cause I was popular. Then I started getting 50% of the door. Later, did I start throwing parties. You know what I'm saying? Did I end up with a nightclub? And there were two nightclubs. But I always was able to monetize what I had. Because I knew what popularity is a
Interviewer / Host
real way, you know what I'm saying? Like, man, you getting these folk not real. You gotta know how valuable you is as a person.
Country Wayne
Yeah.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah. A lot of people don't know that. It's a lot of people running around, even being around other dudes. Like, even, like, you got regular dude that be around. Rapper. They don't know how valuable they is today. Rapper. You give him his whole swag. Just by the way you talk, the way you carry yourself. Then put your whole out there.
Country Wayne
Yeah.
Interviewer / Host
You don't even know it. Yeah, y' all need gotta be wet. So then you try to turn into whoever you want to be. We already seen you before.
Country Wayne
Yeah, that goes on a lot. That's a ball. What you just said, boy. That go on. Hey, Joker don't even know they stealing swag out here, bro.
Interviewer / Host
They bro. You don't even know, like, why. Bro call me every day. He called you. Cause he. He picking you. He picking you.
Country Wayne
He need. He need that sauce.
Interviewer / Host
You need that song. Like, a lot of young got to know that, bro. Yeah, People, period.
Country Wayne
I still. I man shout out my boy. I mean, rp. My boy trouble, man. School. It's cool. It was a real one, dog. And I used to always be like, he don't know. Ain't gonna be too many people, really. It gonna take some real people to really help him. Cause they don't want him around. Cause them girls like him for real. Anybody girls like, without the money, they pump, faking. I knew nobody I knew no comedian was gonna really. Really. The reason why I grinded myself.
Interviewer / Host
I said some too.
Country Wayne
Then the reason why I grinded myself. Ain't nobody coming to get me. Ain't nobody coming to get country Wayne. And I knew that. Cause I know anybody. If them girls like it, you done. You ain't gotta worry about no. Unless it's another cool player that understand y'.
Big Bank
All.
Country Wayne
Y'. All. I told Mike, I said, mike, nobody want giving you no opportunity. You six, five women like you. I said, what I was happy. I'm like, man, help me. First of all, if they like it, I'm gonna make some money off it. You feel what I'm saying? But, man, that's another thing. The game, bro. These men really salted by women, bro. That's the weakness. That's. That's the weakness of the whole game. These men, bro.
Interviewer / Host
Yep.
Country Wayne
So salty. They care about getting money behind that shit. Yeah. Like, they start getting money behind, bro. I tell the rules to me and my brothers and everybody. I told my son, bro, don't y' all never fall out about a girl. I don't care one of y' all deal with the same girl. Y' all talk about that, bro. You should have did that. You know, I like, hey, talk about that. But do never fall out about the way I write my stories. When it comes to Amber and Anthony, them the reason why I write it like that. Because I'm. I'm showing them. Don't never. Don't never let it come between business because it go. Cause it's like, that ain't worth it. They do be falling out. I'm like, man, I'll be seeing the Internet. I'm like, man, I knew I'm gonna get some money here. I said I'm gonna get a lot of money because these. I said, everybody worried about the wrong thing. And one thing about a woman you can't control. It ain't yours. She gonna go.
Interviewer / Host
That's just what it is. Especially the women that is tripping out about.
Country Wayne
They tripping out.
Interviewer / Host
They in the day, in the loop. It's your turn, bro. Standing. I don't know. Now you right about that. You ain't even gotta had a conversation with a woman. Just a look at you and be like my. Like him?
Country Wayne
Yeah.
Interviewer / Host
And start hating on you like my are like him. So I'm gonna hate on him.
Big Bank
Go back. Not to be redundant. Like I say, it's about what's being preached in this music. Because you gotta think we coming out listening to ball and G and short. We just wired a certain way.
Country Wayne
To tell him clear. He JT money tried to tell her. Yeah, them problems ain't no problem. Don't hate the game. Cause it ain't gonna solve them facts. Yeah, well, you find a little. But it just. I don't know. You can't say songs on hand. Yeah, you gonna learn a little. Come on. Would you get mad if another would you acceptable? You gonna cry like a yo. But they be in their feelings, though. They. They being a feeling about them Women. And they act like they ain't none of the most dangerous ones.
Big Bank
You think true. You think true. You think true players can exist amongst the new y ends and the new
Country Wayne
generation, man, Unless they want to get shot, get killed, man. Who a true player.
Big Bank
Do they understand what it is?
Country Wayne
Nah, they don't understand.
Big Bank
Do they even know the game?
Country Wayne
They don't. That's what I'm saying. So if you be one, you have to just find your own world and create your own world and stay out the way, dog. Cause nobody's not. Then why Ends will burn you up for being a player, boy. Now they won't. Now, to be honest, back in the day, like, snitching was looked at like crazy, but now they were like, all right, you can snitch, but you can't do that.
Big Bank
You can't be a player.
Country Wayne
Snitching. They don't swap that. Like. They don't swap.
Big Bank
I was like, don't say they don't swap. Switching with. Play it.
Country Wayne
Oh, yeah. I ain't gonna lie.
Big Bank
Trying to go inside the house.
Country Wayne
Oh, man, you can snitch now. Nobody. It's a. Everybody know you can. You can snitch.
Big Bank
We ain't tripping.
Country Wayne
They ain't tripping. They ain't tripping by snitching no more. That one. Glad I'm. I'm glad I'm in my own world. But nah, man, nobody you be if you were real when I hill. Best thing for you to do, make all the real. They already had a system for the real back in the day. It's. It's the jail, you know? I mean, a death. You know what I'm saying? So now with the Internet, it's like in this world, in this game, the real ones just have to. What the real ones have to do is stay real and do the opposite. What everybody else doing. We have to be more disciplined than them, because if you get caught up in what they doing, we lost.
Interviewer / Host
So what's real? Yeah, what's real?
Country Wayne
Right? What's real? Yeah, real is just, man. Just true.
Big Bank
True to. True to your heart.
Country Wayne
Yeah, man. You're true to yourself of who you are and what you and what you believe. But most real ones have a. A similar belief on certain things. We could have.
Interviewer / Host
You know, that's extinct right now, though.
Big Bank
Yeah.
Country Wayne
Oh, yeah. It's gone.
Interviewer / Host
That stink. Like, for a person to actually be them true selves, no matter what it is. Like, like they. They think real mean you from the streets or you from. No, real is real. No Matter what it is, it can be a child, baby, or old. It could be whatever. It's just a real person.
Country Wayne
Yeah.
Interviewer / Host
People don't understand that real don't come with, like, codes and more.
Country Wayne
It's.
Interviewer / Host
It is the cold immortal. Yeah, it's just real. You just real like you. That person is frowned upon. Like, if I told you the truth about everything or being just a truthful person about everything, you are crazy.
Country Wayne
Yep. Because you irritate people's spirit when they're around.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
So it's really lonely being real. But the real one. At the end of the day, though, only the real get real results. The. The fake have to keep working hard every day for results because the real gonna.
Interviewer / Host
You know, would you say a. Like, Kanye is real?
Country Wayne
The Kanye real. I think he trying his best to be. I feel like he. Out of everybody, he the realest. Because he show. At least he's showing his emotion. Like, you can't be in the world that crazy and acting like everything all right. So I think his reaction is. It's like a bad child in the house. They acting bad for a reason.
Big Bank
But you think how much of it you think is real? How much you think is an act?
Interviewer / Host
I don't think that act.
Country Wayne
I don't think he act.
Big Bank
So when he go, okay, we'll just go ahead. If he. If he go offend whoever. Right. Should he apologize?
Interviewer / Host
He don't apologize.
Big Bank
He just apologized last week.
Country Wayne
I don't know.
Interviewer / Host
It could be an act.
Country Wayne
That could be an act. But I just think he a bad child, man. I think a child. Who I'm telling you is them business, man. He keep telling everybody what it is. He said they was getting so much off. Imagine trying to push some clothes, man. Right, man. You Kanye, and you get to a certain part, and they treating you like. Cause you think you Kanye, you. You get to a certain part, and you realize they won't really let you in the industry for real. And, you know, you sell. You know what I mean? It's like, get to a certain part in life, but you feel the cutoff. Yeah, you feel me? Because they tell us. But they tell us we work hard, we get here, but then you get. When you finally get there, they move the goal post on you. Yeah, I know how I feel. Because I'm like that on social media. As soon as I hit a mark, then they move the goal post on me. They don't change the business on me three times. I'm like, man, if I was on drugs, I'd be like, kanye Right now. You know what I'm saying? Only thing that keep me only thing keep me grounded is that word. I stay in that word. I had to stay with God and know that this happened to everybody, man. Even David own son turned on him. You know what I'm saying? You read stories of this done happened to. So you feel like you hey man, something got to come.
Interviewer / Host
Do you feel like that? Do you feel like you can. Cause that's called containment. Do you containing yourself, right?
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Interviewer / Host
Cause you really want to flip sometime.
Country Wayne
Yeah, I be wanting to flip. I want to flip every day. I be want to flip like Kanye, but not in his. But I do be want to flip because I'm like, I'm getting got.
Interviewer / Host
So for you not to flip, is that making you a part like he can't really be you. Can you really be as real as you want to be in this game?
Country Wayne
Yeah. Because what it don't flip me to be. It flip. When I sit down, when I handle it my own self, it ain't gonna never come out right. But when I sit down and think, it pushed me to do everything every time. That's what pushed me to start doing what I did on social media. That's what pushing me to get my own streaming network. That's what pushed me to go do my own movie. Because what it did excited me and then it turned to idea.
Interviewer / Host
Okay.
Country Wayne
So that's what I keep doing. Every time I feel her, they move it. I create another.
Interviewer / Host
That's real.
Country Wayne
Yeah. When I went out to see my movie. Oh, I got a move with me and Coco Jones. That's her. You know what I'm saying? Me, Coco Jones, Loretta Divide, man. Good movie. I put some M's up. I know what I'm saying. I put a good bit. I wasn't supposed to even put that money that much, but it turned into a bunch of M's of my own money.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
And then when I went to go sell it, they want to own it for 20 years. It was like about all these deals and I'm like, oh, I got to get my own network.
Interviewer / Host
So basically you saying you do react, but you just react with action.
Country Wayne
Yeah, I react with action.
Interviewer / Host
Actions towards your a better future. Better you like. I see what they trying to do. So I'm act out like this.
Country Wayne
Okay. I like this. And then you try to get more people to act out with you, but they won't.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
So it's like, I feel like, you know, at the end of the day, man, I feel like all entertainers now, you know, especially black entertainers. We got enough money and resource. We own the culture. Like, we should come together. At least get. If we get a black network, man. You know what I'm saying? Because them advertisers don't. Them advertisers, you know, I mean, we get a black network for real, and I'll come together and we sharing it, bro. We could be able to feed that. We'll change the black economy.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
Over. All over whole country.
Big Bank
Yeah.
Country Wayne
Because then we'll see what this really got. You know, saying it's like, oh, we ain't got no black streaming platform. You know what I'm saying? Music or nothing. You feel what I'm saying? So it make you. You want other people to act out with you, but you know they ain't. So you act alone, and you act with God, and you just do what you do and just keep pushing because you notice everybody else ain't gonna. Kanye might be acting out the wrong way, though. Right? And that's. But that's me saying that. But to him, it might be the right way. He might say I'm acting out the wrong way. But at the same time, I feel like everybody should be going crazy. I'd be on the email every day, hey, man, I don't know what's up, man. But this video supposed to make more than this D video. I'm acting out. But it's more calm because that's who I am. But I understand, like, when somebody. It's like, I don't agree with nobody. Taking them from nobody on the streets when people rob and stuff. But I do understand how when people broke. That's why when I go in the hood, I don't really wear no bunch of jury. Because I'm like, why I'm tempting this man?
Interviewer / Host
Cause I'm thinking, this is life changing. This shit ain't nothing to me but this. Change his life.
Country Wayne
They could change his life.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
And he could go back. He go back home before the guy. You know what I'm saying? Even if he go sell it for 7,000, you know what $7,000 gonna do for him? His mom, his auntie, and his fresh outfit. So it's like, I don't agree with how you move, bro. Cause I feel like you could just hustle.
Interviewer / Host
But I get it.
Country Wayne
But I get it, though. And I think. I think when you love somebody, some things you just understand. You're like, all right. Oh, how Kanye. Now, I try to analyze a person. Cause I'm a storyteller. And then Every story, when the character shift is something that made them shift, you have to go back. What's the last thing that happened in their life? Like, oh, Kanye. If people listen to Kanye. He was telling everybody, man, y' all don't know about.
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Country Wayne
He was. He wasn't trying to disrespect Sway. He like, hey, man, Sway, man, you don't know. If I tell somebody I'm making seven figures a month on Facebook, they were like, oh, Wayne, you good enough. I'm like, bro, do you know how many views I'm getting? So, like, they don't get, man. Hey, man, no disrespect. Tell me. I. You don't know what I put in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, bro. But hey, man, don't tell me I'm making a. Don't tell me I should be good when I know the ideas and what I'm really putting. I mean, I'm getting. Oh, come on. I'm getting a billion views.
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Country Wayne
And you won't tell me? So it's like. I understand. Like, he told. I think Kanye told everybody, man. Now he's acting out. He acting out like that cousin that you be like, man, I ain't gonna lie. But we know cuz act like we all got that cousin. Like, hey, he talented. But if he snapped, I had a cousin like that, man. And when he used to snap, we all kind of know. You try to act like he ain't scared on. But you know when he snapped, ain't no way. Yeah, you have to knock him out.
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Country Wayne
Because if you don't knock him out, bro, he gets stronger.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah, he turns into.
Country Wayne
And Kanye won the ones.
Big Bank
Yeah.
Country Wayne
Hey, bro, he kind of like, hey, yeah, we. We. We know him in the house. Yeah, but how he acting, bro? He told it. It's about that business, man. And we all go crazy about in the streets, people shoot you about some money. So which one crazy? He shot nobody. Yeah, some little money these people get shot for. Who crazy? The person who will shoot you over $4,000 or the person who tripping about 5 billion they supposed to have.
Big Bank
Yeah, that's a lie.
Country Wayne
He just. He really just acting crazy and talking. He ain't shot nobody.
Interviewer / Host
Indeed.
Country Wayne
No.
Interviewer / Host
No type of. No type of. Who's crazier?
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Country Wayne
He ain't putting nothing. Nobody ain't poisoning nobody. He just speaking. He's speaking what? People saying closed doors. He just saying it out loud. His every. This is big world.
Interviewer / Host
I'm gonna tell you how I know Kanye really ain't probably gotten all the audit, you know, like, all the allegations and that have, you know, like, how be having. In their closet. Cause he do too much.
Big Bank
Yeah.
Interviewer / Host
It had been exposed him for that. Like, you know, like, if he was
Country Wayne
a. I don't want to say.
Big Bank
Whatever.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah. You know, whatever. Whatever.
Big Bank
If he. Whatever. Whatever he be on in his spare time. If he was hiding something.
Country Wayne
Yeah.
Interviewer / Host
If he has. You know, the world's.
Country Wayne
Okay. We can't even say that no more.
Interviewer / Host
If he. Whatever they be doing whatever he on.
Country Wayne
Hey, but, man. Hey, end of the day, we got to start by saying certain stuff. I just feel like a dog, you know, I'm in the company club working on my new joke, and I'm just saying that stuff, man. Cause like, bro, we know. Come on, man.
Big Bank
Why you think somebody like Chappelle can just do it?
Country Wayne
Cause he just don't get it because he already this. What happened with Chappelle, his show was so big, and he felt like. When he felt like he was cooning, that's why he said he stopped. They fell in love with him because he was already doing what they wanted to do. So they let him get a pass. Cause okay, you could say, you know, free now, but you done it. You. We remember. We remember the videos when you're. When you acted like this. And then with Chappelle stopped it. But they like, we got enough. We already got. It's like when a woman be like, I ain't did what you don't know, but shout it. All right.
Interviewer / Host
You can't.
Country Wayne
You should act like that for you.
Interviewer / Host
Then we come.
Country Wayne
I'm going to church, baby. Okay. I ain't forgot.
Big Bank
Damn. Damn.
Country Wayne
You know, you said no.
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Country Wayne
Like, hey, you sent some messages. Everything. Just because you go to God, it don't erase the pictures you sitting here, but you think God be like. I mean, delete these pictures that you sent to him like this right here.
Interviewer / Host
Like, every chance. So every chance he get, though, he go hard, though.
Country Wayne
Yeah. So Chappelle, what he did. I like what he did. Because what he did, man, he just walked away from that. And Chappelle said that why he walked away, because when he was woke, he was like, hold up. They loving me because of how I'm portraying on this show. So they let Chappelle do it. Cause they like, okay. You know what I'm saying? But he's coming back hard. But it's like, you ain't. It ain't that dangerous because black people don't follow you like that. You Know what I'm saying?
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
Like, they know that we love Chappelle and all that, but we ain't locked into him.
Big Bank
Yeah, yeah.
Interviewer / Host
To his every word, like, yeah, moving, moving, moving to the beat of his drums.
Country Wayne
Yeah. Cause we own his style of comedy, you know what I'm saying? Black people just not catching up. We know what we like.
Big Bank
Yeah.
Country Wayne
Come on, man. It's like, you know, it's like barbecue chicken, man. Man, mushrooms ain't gonna never have nothing on barbecue chick. I tell everybody every day, man. Man, I'm a vegan and everything. I. I be. I'll be scrolling, looking at chicken on my phone. Every day I look at lemon pepper
Big Bank
chicken bank like them mushrooms,
Country Wayne
man, ain't the same, man.
Interviewer / Host
You could trick yourself all day like nothing.
Country Wayne
Like I wanna. Ain't nothing like they got there. Chicken go to blue flame. Boy, that lemon pepper chicken. Hey, man, so do you think it's
Interviewer / Host
a real back room to all this, though?
Country Wayne
What?
Interviewer / Host
Just to entertainment, like a back room?
Country Wayne
Yeah, I think. I think what it is with entertainment, I think black people got the gift and white people got the gift of law, of recognition. I think they recognize the gift more than we, than we do.
Interviewer / Host
Like, they can see.
Country Wayne
They can see it. Like, we could be dribbling. They be like, ooh, let me create the NBA. Because when you don't have the gift, you thinking about business all day. We got the gift so much, we don't treat it the same. It's like after you. It's like even relationships, when you've been a person 20 years, you forgot that this person is whatever got you remember. You got to remember who they are. So I think that's why the reason why I pay black people so much money, because I value me. It ain't just I value them, they don't value them. But it's like when you. We don't see ourselves. And I think the back room in this game, if we ever try to get into their system, we always gonna lose because it's their system. They trick us to get into their system. Instead of believing in man. Hey, man, I believe in God. And it's a highest source. And if God is God, there's no way I got to keep going through you. I got. I gotta give it, hey, man, I'm getting my own network, bro. I'm gonna do this, I'm do that. And if it don't work, whatever I believe, whoever, whoever allowed me to move the legs and wake up in the morning, I believe in him. So I think the back room for them is if they trick you to get in their system. They think you finna come up.
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Interviewer / Host
like do you think like this haven't like you building your own network?
Country Wayne
Yeah.
Interviewer / Host
This shit is huge already.
Country Wayne
Yeah.
Interviewer / Host
So it's gonna get bigger and bigger. Do you think it's gonna become a time to where now this shit gets too big when you gotta come talk to somebody.
Country Wayne
Yeah, it already happened.
Interviewer / Host
I'm just saying like okay, but we can stop your shit too though. You know what I'm saying? Like that type of back room where we can put roadblocks in front of your.
Country Wayne
Yeah, they can stop it. They can stop it right now. You know what I'm saying? Whoever own it. If I'm on social media, if I'm on YouTube, they can stop it.
Interviewer / Host
You get what I'm saying?
Ryan Seacrest
Yes.
Interviewer / Host
So I'm saying like so how do
Country Wayne
you navigate that back man? I'm trying to. I'm saying, build my own network. And I just believe in something higher. I be like, man, well, you stop it. God gonna do something else for me. You'll Goddard, if you do stop it, man, something gonna happen to the world. I believe I got face like that. Play with me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I ain't never had a gun in the streets, but I always had a spiritual pistol. I told the police. One time, he pulled me over, I said, man, bruh, I ain't gonna do that to you. But you keep pulling me over, man, for no reason, you breaking your rules.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah, you the police.
Country Wayne
Okay.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
You know, I sell dope probably, but, man, forgive me. Let me go over the line.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
Don't just keep profiling my car. Yeah. Because now you breaking your rules. And I say if you keep playing me, man, God gonna do something. So I think the only hope we got. I tell everybody, man, if Jesus ain't real, we doomed anyway, because we never gonna beat them. And they own everything, man. These folks can really. I'm making money, right? But I need me bragging about it. They could really cut me off today. They could stop my page and not let me upload, right? So I'm just like, man, I gotta
Interviewer / Host
get my own Kanye money off. Like, how they. They can turn your account off?
Country Wayne
When I seen that, I said, oh, my God. They said, we turned it, made it public. So I'm like, I just think, but Kanye made a mistake. But I believe that system was gonna let you go that far anyway. They ain't never let nobody. They ain't letting us really go. They show us a few billionaires they keep talking about. I'm tired of hearing about the same billionaire. Stop showing me goddamn Jay Z and Oprahman. Hey, man, that's it. Yeah, I know. I hear future music everywhere, man. Who holding this, man? That boy Post. Hey, man.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah, I get what you're saying.
Country Wayne
I'm like, hey, man, hold up, man.
Interviewer / Host
Where the money? We let y' all get a couple hundred million.
Country Wayne
Yeah, but.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah, but y' all done made. If that man got 200 million, whatever, 100 million. What y' all got?
Country Wayne
What y' all got, man?
Interviewer / Host
And I mean, that's a billion dollar.
Country Wayne
I know they have it. I know they got it. Cause they laughing like they got it. That's why we can't laugh like them.
Interviewer / Host
You said they laugh.
Country Wayne
It ain't the same. Cause we know we can't got. Cause they say soul. They got. That's our soul in them. They don't took our laugh, man.
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Country Wayne
We laughing. We. We good sniggling. Hey, man, when we laugh, we got to run and move to get crack that laugh. We got to get up. They stand in one spot from that torso. Oh, my God. And we take a picture with them in the house we bought. Boy. Boy, the house was big. You bought it, you big dummy. Come here.
Interviewer / Host
That's up, bro.
Country Wayne
Hey, the game messed up. The only thing you do is know that the game messed up. Find joy in what you're doing and really go and be trying. Like, man, die trying to own it, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, die trying to own it. You know what I'm saying?
Interviewer / Host
I agree with that because it is messed up.
Country Wayne
But again, the way they've been doing entertainers over the years, man, I'll be listening. I was going back and listening to music when I heard Tupac, he say, trying to get a meal. And I'm like, I were trying to get a million. We're going to talk about the song. I played it back so many times because you know. You know what I mean?
Interviewer / Host
You trying to get a million.
Country Wayne
You try to get a million. I said, oh, my God. I say, man, it was. They've been. They've been doing this a long time. Boy, do he know. He the hottest rap. We all. We all talking about the passion.
Big Bank
Yeah.
Country Wayne
You know what I'm saying? I'm like, oh, this game and running. They've been doing it. They've been doing this a long time. And to be honest, bro, you. It's on good people out there though. But at the end of the day, man, you can't expect no human. Every human gonna let you die some kind of shape, form or fashion anyway. So it's like you can't trust nobody who got pop over to you to really do you, right.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
At least they. You. I watch how a person treat they self. You know what I'm saying? Like. Like I had a conscious, man. I was like, I got to pay these people.
Interviewer / Host
You can't trust another to do you right. No, you're right.
Country Wayne
How bro? Just think about this now. We now from the street. So I'm a tall street vices. So if I'm a bad person and I owe you and I want to bless you, but I go to casino and I lose a million dollars, man. I'm not. I'm taking out your cut, right? Thank God I'm a good person.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
God still know the mental. But what's. What's happening is they Are they're gonna look out for them. So even if they got good intentions, man, I'm gonna do right. But then they got to pay taxes or they might got. Somebody got to take care of a whole nother family. Whatever, man. They like, hey, man, somebody gotta pay for this.
Interviewer / Host
Somebody gotta pay for this out of that.
Country Wayne
I can take this out of that, bro. A human. A human gonna be a human. A human gonna be a human.
Interviewer / Host
It's hard to let somebody touch your money for you touching it.
Country Wayne
Oh, my God.
Interviewer / Host
Unless it's our money. You know what I'm saying? If it's our money, it's our money.
Country Wayne
I hate that play. I don't play that.
Interviewer / Host
What?
Country Wayne
They just text me by. My brother, my witness, a businessman. They sent me over the business manager, man, and it was like they tried to sell it on me. I'm talking too much on this big fat, but he big fat. They try to sell it to me like, this is Eddie Murphy's business manager. And all this and this and this. And they said business. I think it was like 5%. I think it was like 5% or something.
Big Bank
What?
Country Wayne
It was 5%. And I was at a computer on the zoom and I had did the math. I said if I hit them 5%, they gonna get this money. I say, I'd rather trick it off.
Interviewer / Host
Just awesome.
Country Wayne
They get 5% to handle your business, to pay your taxes and all that money.
Interviewer / Host
You added that up anyway.
Country Wayne
And I added it up. And I Google. I logged into my tax place. I said, only thing to pay it is you mesh sinned. I could pay my own taxes. Put the numbers in. Take count and put. Put the numbers in. What I made versus I master seeing button. I'm like, who is selling these? Talking about my business, man. I'll talk to people like, man, my business. Hey, man, you better go check that. I hate people. Tell me how much your money. Oh, man, you should see what my money. They always show a piece of thing on the phone with some numbers going up in the stock market. Maybe your grandma. Hey, man, you better get some of that money. Hey, man,
Big Bank
hey, man, get something spinning right now.
Country Wayne
Hey, man, hey, man, hold up, man. I had to work hard for this money. You finna hold it again? I'm like, man, Bob, like, I really realized we trust everybody without money. Too much too, man. You know what I'm saying? They trigger us. They trigger us. Like when they sell me these Rolexes, say, but you can. They always tell you how much it's worth. It's like, man, it Watch ain't worth a good. All right, Go try to sell it there. If everybody gonna sell their jury at one time, they all. They be having the white gloves on, man. Just giving the watch, man. I like the way it looks. Out there, showing it like, man, this is an investment. Come on, man. No, bro.
Interviewer / Host
Right.
Country Wayne
Huh?
Interviewer / Host
Some of them watch it.
Big Bank
Do.
Country Wayne
Do they say that Rolex back. But.
Interviewer / Host
But if you hold Rolex for amount of time, though, that go up and down like stock market.
Country Wayne
They say that, but I'm gonna have to pay taxes on it if I get the money back.
Interviewer / Host
But they do go up and down.
Country Wayne
Yeah, they do up and down. I ain't gonna lie. It's investment, but it ain't. Come on now.
Interviewer / Host
But I get what you're saying. Don't oversell it to me.
Country Wayne
Don't oversell it to me. Yeah. Cause I'm. I'm messing up.
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Country Wayne
Let me mess up.
Interviewer / Host
Let me go in peace.
Country Wayne
Let me. I don't hate when people look, bro, let me. Let me blow this money at peace, man. Don't sell me on that.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah. Because if gonna make me not want
Country Wayne
it, if I do sell it later on, that means something ain't right anyway.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah. It probably be the last thing to go. So if I'm looking at my wrist
Country Wayne
right, I should have bought it when I bought it.
Big Bank
Yeah.
Country Wayne
I should have did something else with that. But now I believe investing in people, though. I believe. I believe, like investing in people, people can move for you, you know, a Ferrari. If I tell a Ferrari to come here right now and move something, but a person can go make something happen for you.
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Country Wayne
So I believe in investing in people. I'd rather lose money. And people didn't lose money in it. In that system. Let me. Because if a joker made. If you make 20, 30 million in a year, man, somebody getting 10% off that, that your family could have did, if they ain't helping you really make them. Okay. Yo, it is some people that do. You know what I'm saying? Oh. But if they get $3 million, probably could have taught somebody about it. You're gonna lose with your family at first now. Teaching them you're gonna lose, but when they finally do get it, you got you somebody at least. At least it's your family. You know what I'm saying? So that's what I do. I put all my. Everybody, my baby mama's in my skits. I don't play. You want some money, you gotta come get in these kids. If I'm with A girl, she gotta come get any skits.
Interviewer / Host
It's a family business.
Country Wayne
And I'm gonna pay you. You ain't getting out of. You never getting out of my money, but you sure can work for something.
Interviewer / Host
Not in fact, you ain't never getting
Country Wayne
out of my paper. You know what I'm saying? You gonna have to work, but I'll be best in people.
Big Bank
Opportunity.
Interviewer / Host
Nothing like it.
Big Bank
You used to rap. So when you know, like, the rapping
Country Wayne
wasn't for you, man. Told you Young Thug, man. When I seen Young Thug on rapping. Well, it was Young Thug and DC Young Fly. It's a combination. I was In Atlanta and D.C. young Fly had just started popping, you know what I'm saying? And it was this girl named Kayla. She had walked by and I had. I had one of the new charges, you know, when the new charger was out, I was in the charging rental car, pocket full of money. In my pocket. Yeah. I was in the rental uphill, and a girl named Kayla walked by. I said, oh, she fine. She had the curly hair. And I'm looking at her, I'm like, I might holler, shout it. But DC on Fly walked up and manual them. He was like, you know who they is? That's DC on Fly and Emmanuel. Them like. And she, like, she was telling her friend girls, she was like, you know, they the new Internet guys. And the way she looked, I said, hold up. The new Internet people is getting the sauce now. That was one thing. I said, I'm gonna go get viral then. But when I heard Young Thug rap, I knew it wasn't for me.
Big Bank
Why you say that?
Country Wayne
He was too good. I said, it's changing if that's coming in the industry. Cause yo Gotti was flowing, but I could keep up with that flow. A lot of. You know what I'm saying? It's your boy. Yo, I ain't got time nobody. I don't even know what you said, but I just know. Sound like an instrument sliding. I'm in the club. I love her. Whatever they were saying, DJs playing it three times a night. Yeah. I say, man, nah. Rap changing, boy. Yeah, Them boys, them boys, them boys, them boys rapping. And it kept. It kept going. Like Thug kept going, man. You know, then Future had already was on his wave and all that. Future was just so good with them. It was like people who was coming, but just that Joe was hitting another level.
Big Bank
I feel like they were like musicians, not just rappers.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
Like, you know, I was. When I was. When I was ti I'm like, gucci, no fan. You know what I'm saying? It was like lyrics. Saying what? Saying about the streets. You know what I'm saying? And then people started rapping about using drugs instead of selling them. And I ain't have no experience, so I was like, hold up. When I was rapping, yeah, it was about how much you sold. Yeah, I had a brick and he had a lick, you know. You know what I'm saying?
Big Bank
Yeah.
Country Wayne
It was that kind of flow. But then when they start, you know, back in the day, when you did what you did, you kept that private.
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Country Wayne
You know what I'm saying?
Interviewer / Host
You did.
Country Wayne
But now it was like rapping about it. Like, the game changing, and they too good. And I ain't want to be a part of. I ain't want to be a part of that because I was like, I don't like to be. I don't like to get in no game. I don't feel like I could be one of the dominant ones.
Interviewer / Host
When you knew that like this, where you gonna be at? Right here.
Country Wayne
Oh. Cause I just knew the comedians. Comedians were funny, but I knew they was all just funny. I knew that. I knew this game. The business was over. The business wasn't over here yet.
Interviewer / Host
Oh, okay.
Country Wayne
Come to game. Comedians wasn't. Because one thing coming from the rap game, you do know rappers started getting money, started seeing t. I didn't move a certain way. You know, Gucci done hot. Comedians don't ever really get that paper, you know what I'm saying? Unless you just get big and movies like Kevin Hart now. But I was like, oh, this game is like uncharted territory. So I can get wealthier in this and that. Because that game already cemented. You have to go through the tunnels to get the paper. Like, versus here. You create. Cause nobody was paying. Nobody never looked at comedians. Rappers really want. Comedians come around. I never did this. Comedians come around. They basically want us to put on a free show. I never was the one. Because it's like comedians don't value theyself. Yeah, you never. Comedians, they.
Interviewer / Host
They feel like they always want to prove. Prove that they can do what they can do when they already can do what they can do.
Country Wayne
They already could do what they. They already could do what they could do. Comedians never looked at theyself as, hold up, we the money.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
Cause we don't even need a beat behind us. The production cost is low. You know what I'm saying? So when I came over here in the company world, this felt like, oh, my God. It's like. It's like. It's like being from Atlanta, you go one of them country towns where they paying double the. Hey. I was like, they got too much knowledge in the rap game over here. It was. It was. It was sweet. It was. It was lovely. Yeah, because nobody was thinking about money. Comedians, they don't never. They're for real, though. They don't never really think about the money. I can't even think about the money off the rip. So I was like, this. This. This territory was. And I knew they didn't have the context they could talk about all this was funny. But, like, none of them got ain't no street comedian. I ain't no. Ain't no comedian that really had the streets, you know, the women already, you know, saying, I got kids. I got. I got a lot of stuff to talk about. So I knew my subject matter.
Big Bank
Especially from the South.
Country Wayne
Yeah, especially from the South. And I'm from a small town, and I just got more, man. I got 10 kids, so I can't run out of material. I got 10 kids, the baby mamas, my whole family with me, for real. My grandma, my brothers, my sisters, my godparents, my dad, all them work with me. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, my family's so big, and my experience is so big. I knew that it was nobody in the company gang who was gonna have my subject matter. And I knew the people I was gonna pick up was gonna stick with me forever. Cause, like, Joker might be funny because comedians funny. Everybody think they funny in a comedian, but, man, them comedian. Every last one of them comedians I've been around, them, they funny. They just subject matter. Like, me and the comedian were beefing one time. He was beefing with me, But I. I told him, bro, you funny. Yo, you. Because they. Because a lot of people be like, why they. Why they rocking with country? Wayne, he ain't that funny to me. I'm like. But the streets know what I'm talking about. You just ain't one of them people in the streets. I got. I got. Old boy don't come to my show so they understand what. You ain't live this. You ain't had multiple women wanting you until you got some money. So you don't know how this feel. So it was like the coming of the game was like me rapping. I met Dolph a few months before he passed, bro. He told me because I did a drip video when I went back to my teacher highs And I was like, yo, yo, you really ain't believing me, but I got a mixtape dropping. You know what I'm saying? I was talking like drip. And Dolph had seen the video. He said, bro, me and my partner was just talking. You basically doing what we doing but breaking it down and putting in the company game. So I knew the come. I knew there was no comedian that was going to be able to compete with that versus rapping. I had already been seen. Cause Jeezy was a hustler. Y was a hustler. Gucci don't hustle.
Interviewer / Host
Been the same old story.
Country Wayne
Yeah, same old story. Got a brick here. The lick shining with you know what I'm saying? Like, I was think what was going to be different. But over here, ain't that ain't. That ain't really been in the company game. It ain't really been over here.
Interviewer / Host
So you weren't influenced by no other comedians, like, coming up?
Country Wayne
Nah, I ain't want to be. Nah.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah, you didn't even know that, like, they just landed in your left.
Country Wayne
It landed my left. I ain't never wanted to be no comedian, but I. I knew winning Paul. I said, oh, this joker ain't. I knew. I never looked at a comedian and say, he funnier than me. But I don't look at the rapper and say, ah, nah, he better than me.
Interviewer / Host
Oh, okay.
Country Wayne
I ain't never looked. I ain't never been scared. They when we coming up up, the comedians try to go on stage before me and try to. I'm like, bro, I'm not finna bomb. Because I can talk. I could. I could say something in here to catch everybody attention because I lived it and they could feel it on me.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
So you know what I'm saying? It's like if you go on stage and talk, like if you go on stage with your experience. And I could feel. I really excited every time I come on here.
Interviewer / Host
No vice versa. Appreciate you coming.
Country Wayne
You got so much wisdom in the mixtape game and screen talk. You gonna be so detailed about what you talking about. They gonna listen to you anyway. When you talk, if you say something about the street, they listen because they can feel it on you. The way you look at people, you be like, man, that joker lie. You can watch an interview, you'd be like, yeah, you. You can't hide. You need some shades.
Big Bank
She do that sometimes too.
Country Wayne
What do you need to say? Cause you can't lie. Yeah. Hey, you be looking at people like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that'd be high, bro. Hey, you could.
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Country Wayne
You could read people. So it's like, nah, man. I never looked at a comedian and thought he was funnier than me.
Interviewer / Host
What about a comedian? Like, when you got in the game, which comedians came at you when you got in the game, like, we fucked with you that you surprised that damn, that nigga fuck with me.
Country Wayne
The big ones. All the ones who was rich came in. Hart. Kay, my heart. Who else came off the real? Michael showed love off the real, too. Michael showed love off the real. Kevin Hart, Cedric entertainer, Major love. And Steve Harvey still show. He still showed love. Me and Kevin Hart, he caught me with my special drop.
Interviewer / Host
How that make you feel like when you was in it, even though you gonna go hard anyway, but that's in the same lane as you that recognize you. How that made you feel?
Country Wayne
Man, it really made me feel good coming from them, though, because I know they had seen it all. And when, like, when Steve Harvey called me out and was like, man, my special. One of the best ones he ever seen and all that, I was like, okay, he get it. You know what I'm saying? Because it just felt different because them boys. Them boys don't been through them levels. Them boys don't been through all them levels.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
And I studied and I was fans of them before. See, I was always fans of comedy, but I ain't know I wanted to be a comedian.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
But, yeah, now if, you know, the validation from them, definitely. It definitely felt good. For real.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah. They immediately put you, like, as a peer. Like, nah, you one of them.
Country Wayne
Oh, yeah.
Interviewer / Host
They ain't reaching out to know anybody.
Country Wayne
Yeah, no, it was like. It was the love and the hate was strong on the other end. A lot of other comedians hated because, see, they love like, DC because DC more friendly than me, you know what I'm saying? He more accepted, like, you know what I'm saying? He like, but me, I'm like, I ain't even mean, but I just. I just be wanting to know. I ask real questions.
Big Bank
Yeah.
Country Wayne
I be wanting to know about that paper. You just can't like, hey, man, what's the business? So it's like that type of person.
Interviewer / Host
Oh, okay. So you. That's your conversation.
Country Wayne
They ain't never. They see me as a real threat because I had to say I had my subject matter because I was talking about real stuff on stage.
Big Bank
Yeah.
Country Wayne
So a lot of comedians see me as a threat because the people was the way the people was treating me because they was home. When you start hearing your aunties and your Uncles be like, man, the country Wayne got hold up. You know what I'm saying? But your DC don't have the other crowd. But a lot of my older comedians were tripping because I had they crowd like, who is this young boy? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, they got our audience.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah. In the church, they talking about you.
Country Wayne
They're talking about me at the church. So, like, how. How. And it's like, how. It's not fair because a pastor called me, man, during the pandemic. He had a zoom with me, a big pastor in D.C. they were trying to see how's y' all let Wayne scream. Jesus. But he clearly ain't perfect. Look at his life. So a lot of people from the church, for a lot of comedians were jealous because it's like, I didn't have to choose a lane. I got the church, the hood. You know what I mean?
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
And everybody, because I'm being honest and being myself, that I'm not perfect. But I know who he is. And. But no, it's a lot of hate, man. But I ain't. I ain't really care.
Interviewer / Host
You saying the beginning or now or still. Whatever.
Country Wayne
That's a lot of. It's a lot of hate now.
Interviewer / Host
Still.
Country Wayne
Oh, Lord Jesus.
Interviewer / Host
But they. Hang on. Tell them what they hating on.
Country Wayne
They hating on because they. They. I ran it up a different way.
Big Bank
Yeah.
Country Wayne
And they can't stand it because nobody can control me because it's like the way I ran it up. Cause that gang control, like, if you don't. If somebody don't want you to get a special, you ain't getting no special. You feel what I'm saying? If somebody don't want you to get. And then I'm telling you, the game controlled. If you depend on the game. But the way I came up. Nobody seen it coming. Is like, dog, we can't control him.
Interviewer / Host
Too late to hate it.
Country Wayne
Too late. Boy, I'm like a bad child.
Interviewer / Host
Like you said earlier about the wings. Like, you. You working on legacy now. You. You and your legacy stage.
Country Wayne
Yeah.
Interviewer / Host
Like this legendary. All you doing now is adding to your legacy. Yeah. Because you here.
Country Wayne
Yeah. Cause I did this for all social media comedians because I didn't like the way they was talking about. They were talking about me and DC and all of us. They like, social media's got the fans, but they were all calling us broke. And I knew. I say, man, y' all got the wrong one talking to me. It's a hustler in the game.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
So it's like a lot of them hating because they know they can't. You can't hold that over me. I'm in a big movie and you're not. That's what they do to us. It's like. But I'm like, hey, yo, but I'm getting it like I'm in a big movie. So they hating now because they hating because the same hate universal, man. They hating because they hating because they man, they hating because the way I came up, it's the way I did it. Cause it's like this, what happened when people get a deal, then they try to act like they're entrepreneur. They gonna go, hey, what?
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
One thing about Steph Dillon, they don't say that Michael Jordan, hey, man, they get their money, it's okay to be your check. But everybody want to get the credit of. Everybody want to get the credit of a hustler. I'm like, bro, you not finna get that tag on you. Because the people who really hustle, people who died and went to jail behind this, like, my mama died in the streets. My daddy got. My daddy did 10 years feed my brother over there. Did nine year feed. My uncle them did nine year feed. So the pain I had to go through to become this. They hate a hustler because a hustler is free. When I was in the street, they hate dope boys. If you working a lot, dope boys get hated. That's why when you go to jail, he shouldn't did all this money anyway. Uncle, come over here. I told you, now what you gonna do now you feel what I'm saying? So the hustler gonna always get hated because they all want to be that. But when you at home, if you get a TV deal, right? And it changed your life, the fans seen that change your life. So we love you and we a fan of you, but we don't believe the same versus when they see you get it out the mud.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah, it's totally different.
Country Wayne
You get a different respect in the black community. Where they be like. They might be like, oh, man, we love him. He in the big movie. But they're like country. Oh, your family might be like country Wayne. That boy, your boy got God. He different.
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Interviewer / Host
And then.
Country Wayne
And they hating because black people treat me like that.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah, they treat me.
Country Wayne
They hating because I'm getting treated like the dope boy when he come home. Dope boy ain't no grandma, you know. Auntie. Hey, baby.
Interviewer / Host
Pay him a better plate,
Country Wayne
that junior spy. Yeah, but you're sleeping on the soul playing the game. He doing wrong, but at least he taking a risk. He understand that these circumstances around here. Can't stay like this.
Big Bank
Yeah.
Country Wayne
So he gonna get the bigger place.
Interviewer / Host
You gotta walk to the door, see your car, they know you out there.
Country Wayne
So they hating now. Cause everybody, man. And to be honest, they don't even know, bro. Like, I wish I would have got them chicks.
Interviewer / Host
Not. No, you don't.
Country Wayne
I just say that sound goodbye, you know. But also at that point, it was a point in time, my career, I won't be like, man, let me get me out the street. Reach.
Interviewer / Host
No.
Country Wayne
Yeah, come give me a legit check.
Interviewer / Host
But in this moment right now, at
Country Wayne
this moment right here, they hate because they know I don't care about, bro, that people coming to me about, man. TV show. But I ain't no way I'm doing that movie for that. Unless it's a bigger play than the money. Yeah, some stuff a bigger plate than the money. Like, I. I do that move for free. Yeah, if it. But they don't like my freedom. So anybody who free, it ain't just me getting hated on. If you're free, they gonna hate you. And right now they be like. Because they can't figure it out either. Because they like, how's this boy monetizing off social media, man? And it's like, ain't no way he. They don't got all kind of rumors now. They think I'm selling dope, man. I wish a joker would come ride me, throw some dope.
Interviewer / Host
I'm.
Country Wayne
I'm snitching. Get it? Hey, man, hey. I'm not the same person I was then. It was about the wood.
Interviewer / Host
Hey, get out around me.
Country Wayne
Hey, get from. Ride me. But they. They. When I did what I did on social media, man, the love came from the people. But it's a lot of haters in the industry, you know what I'm saying? Cause they can't figure it out. Who showed me the most love is rappers. Rappers be like, hey, man, show me how some of them got people in the game, can't stand it because the people treat me a certain way. So they trying to find a flaw. Right now, people just digging up my. They try to dig up what can we say about him.
Interviewer / Host
But you already done said it all.
Country Wayne
I already said it. My only problem was women. And we know in the hood. I told. They got mad. It's a girl. I know some friends I know they got mad. I told her, I said, listen, bro, the reason why I don't get in trouble about that as much because I'm not abusing them and I'm not that, you know what I'm saying? And the women I have been when I took care of them, you know what I'm saying? Even though after I. Even after I left a girl I'm gonna take care of, you know what I'm saying, for a certain amount of
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Country Wayne
the day that problem ain't the biggest problem in the community. So they not going they want me to bet. People want me to get bashed there's plenty of my. It's a mine. A baby mama like you a bad person because you broke my heart. I'm like, bro, it's people breaking jaws. You talking about here. Talking about I hurt your feelings. Somebody swollen up, they just got hit by Bobby. So, you know, I already told everybody all my flaws, bro. It's always been, man. I got 10 kids, man, so it's like anything else they want to dig up. I am who. I'm a better person than I actually put out. I'm just laid back. I like. I like to eat, chill. My family kick it, bro. I don't be as long as I got a roof over my head. And I ain't. I ain't really that ambitious that why
Interviewer / Host
I was just gonna ask you, you think you gonna push the envelope further or what?
Country Wayne
I got to because my stomach full. But it's so many hungry people. I know. So when you connected to people, they stomach stay empty.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
So the negative part is gotta keep looking out for people. But the positive part is that's what keep giving you the ideas. Cause when you love, love push you further. When you love somebody, you start. Martin Luther King didn't try to get his name on the street. His love for people made him Martin Luther King. So he just was speaking out. Hey, man, they doing these people, they doing us wrong. But now he's a legend. I didn't try to become who I am. I just was really trying to feed my. Dang, I got some money. But now my sisters. I gotta make sure my sisters don't pay their bills. Now my sister gotta pay make sure my brothers don't have to work. I don't want him to have to sell dope. My daddy's got home. I'm make sure he don't have to sell duck. I gotta give him enough money where he don't have to sell dope. Man, my baby mama need to be home with the kids. Let me find a way, you know what I'm saying? It's like the love me for. For people just push me to find business ideas. So I'm pushing the envelope now. Like I'm aiming at, you know, I'm going at them beings, you know what I'm saying? Because. But I'm forced to. Because I keep running. Forced to go in because I keep running into. I keep running to stopping points. We'd be like, damn, y' all finna change the rules on me. You think you got something like that? Y' all just. Y' all change the rules on me again. But that's y' all platform or this y'.
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Country Wayne
I can't get mad.
Interviewer / Host
Oh, so you making folk change rules like you breaking barriers.
Country Wayne
Yeah, I was changing rules. Come get too many. My engagement man. I dropped 40 videos a day of new content, so I'm dropping more videos of new content to everybody in the world.
Interviewer / Host
40 videos a day?
Country Wayne
Yeah. Yeah. They dropping right now while we talking the turnaround.
Big Bank
Crazy, too. I was. I was in one with Bread. It might have came out the damn same day.
Country Wayne
Oh, yeah. It don't take. No. But we don't edit. You just say actions cut. And you cut off action and cut off good. And it's ready to go. So it's. They trying to stop it because it's like the crack epidemic.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
You know what I'm saying? While everybody was trying to pull their needle out and wrap their arm up.
Big Bank
Yeah.
Country Wayne
You feel what I'm saying? So the crack epidemic was with the content game. The way I filmed. They calling it what they trying to do now. They copying what I started. They trying to call it verticals. Hollywood taking it and gave it a name. So now they got everybody. Kim Kardashian, everybody investing in these vertical platforms. Because I was the only one shooting with the phone. Up and down, up and down.
Big Bank
Okay.
Country Wayne
Brad told me, you got to have it sideways. I said, that don't make sense. I say, because people so got adhd, they don't feel like taking an extra step. So if they. They have to really like something to do this versus. I say, if I'm up and down, they'll be like, oh, what's this? Then by the time they be like, they hooked. So now they scrolling this way. People don't like to do no extra moves. So I started that 2014, that this year, last year, they started verticals in America. You know what I'm saying? So everybody on verticals now? Everybody doing the verticals. But I've been doing it. They doing the verticals and they doing micro dramas. But I was the only one doing so populars on social media. I stopped being funny because I seen him. I called my boy Mike. I'm making. I'm making money with Drip and all that. But I was like, something told God woke me up at a nap, and I was like, what movies make the most money? I like the biggest. I Google comedy movies. Comedy movies ain't make that much. I was like, all the biggest movies, like Hangover.
Big Bank
Drama.
Country Wayne
Okay, Hangover.
Interviewer / Host
Oh, okay. Yeah.
Country Wayne
Somebody. It's only a few of them. But all the drama, drama, relationship movies lasted longer.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
So I was like, I switched that day. We went to set. So it was a skit. Might supposed to be fun. I say, stop being funny, bro. I direct. I say, no, you gonna do this. Look her in the eye. Get serious. I switched that day. I stopped. I stopped Drip off the rip. You know what I mean? I said, man, drip be good for some reels or something. But you gotta sit down right now. Because the relationships and these storylines, you know what I'm saying? And I was doing it. My agency then was mad because, like, people be. When they be putting a list out of comedians, I don't get mad. Cause they right. I ain't been funny on the Internet three years. People be taking up for me. Like, man, y' all got Wayne messed up. No, they don't. Cause I. I stopped being funny with Drip. So they right. I don't. I don't deserve to be on them lists unless you watch my special, you know what I'm saying? If my specials drop, you know what I'm saying? Like, shout out my special. March 23rd, dropping on Amazon.
Big Bank
There you go.
Country Wayne
My second special. My first one dropped on Netflix. But my special drop, you get that side of Wayne. But I don't sell that for free. You know what I'm saying? You don't. I don't just. The drama told us, don't sell that for free. Yeah. Nah, man. So I really realized that soap operas and relationships and serious was gonna last. Could be everybody who be funny on social media. Boy,
Big Bank
you.
Country Wayne
They not gonna watch that for three minutes. See, demonetized on social media. You gotta do three minutes plus. So you can't do that because you're gonna clip it to death. They might watch it. That's why reels are 90 seconds, because they already did the research. That three minutes, you're gonna have to be able to act. You're at them chops. So you have to be able to. Somebody like, oh, so you, like. You find out your girl cheating. Really taking a beat, but you're trying to get. Trying to waste some seconds.
Interviewer / Host
You can put three minutes on Instagram.
Country Wayne
Instagram don't pay because they were paying. But I was the only one doing it. That's why I was on Instagram, heavy with drip and all that. And they. They kept it g. Because they did pay me three months after I got off. They was like, we finna end the program. But you've been going hard. You know what I'm saying? But nobody was doing it. Nobody Ain't want the money. People still man. Content and content creators. Brad, I don't do no business with content creators because I'm like, you won't even get the money that's on there. You know what I'm saying? They would not post for three minutes. They were still posting to get a reaction and attention. How many times these people gonna make you, gonna make you laugh like, man, oh, my boy Desert told me he said he don't like post long content because his fans don't like it. I was like, hey man, mine ain't like it at first, but hey man, I'm not gonna sit here on this platform and just be funny if it ain't paying me. You know what I'm saying? At a certain point you got to cut that off. But now Instagram don't pay though.
Interviewer / Host
So which ones getting the money up?
Country Wayne
YouTube, YouTube, Facebook. YouTube and Facebook ain't getting the money. No, they ain't giving you that money, man. Because everybody. The problem is, think about it. The advertiser is not going to pay for no real.
Big Bank
Yeah, no, 15, 30, they can't put
Country Wayne
the ad in there. So reason why YouTube winning because they, the audience is trained to watch longer content. Them ads got to come in though. So people got to understand really your fans were rather for you to pop on social media because of free product. My fans don't have to pay for me to get paid. The advertiser gonna pay me.
Interviewer / Host
So you should drive your people to YouTube and to Facebook. Yeah, mine following you because I'm real fans. Those are not consumers.
Country Wayne
They don't mind following because it's free for one. And I give them new content every day. So a restaurant, they got some new, some fresh chicken every day and they killing the chicken in front of you. You're like, you know it's fresh. Somebody ride by, they killing that one today. They got a whole bunch of chickens. They plucking feathers. You like, man, every day is exciting because ain't no clips. This boy really dropping 40 brand new videos a day. And, and you know, it's like, it's like it's the, it's the, it's the game. But I stopped being funny on social media since 2021. I stopped drill 2021. That's the last time you see me. I ain't been funny so long that I did a drop that I'm coming back. Before I did the drop, I said, watch this drop go viral. I was starting back stand up, but I was funny a little bit. I was like, well, I'm back. They laugh at anything now. Cause Wayne ain't being funny every time you see him. Every time I do something out on the Internet, they laugh so hard. Cause, like, dog, bro, you used to be the old man, buddy.
Interviewer / Host
Hey, well, you shot the special. The next one.
Country Wayne
Oh, I shot in the eight.
Interviewer / Host
Oh, for real.
Country Wayne
I shot. Oh, I caged the eight.
Interviewer / Host
Oh, Lord.
Country Wayne
The second one. The second one way different than the first one. The first one was good and everything, but I had to let people know who I was. I've been had, no joke. But the second one, man, I came out that Dolph, because I don't got. See, the first one, I couldn't beat everybody who I knew they weren't gonna give me that money. So I was like, I came out of Fantasia. Wayne is a good. But the second one, the Streets. The second one, I care about that Dolph.
Big Bank
What's the name of it, huh? What's the name of the nostalgia? Okay?
Country Wayne
Like, I'm taking them back to how things was, the jokes. I can't. You know what I'm saying? Got the red suit, you know what I'm saying? The part before the special, it's just like that second special. I did it in a. You know what I'm saying? We did two shows, and it was just like, yeah, yeah, y'.
Big Bank
All.
Country Wayne
So, yeah, we here.
Interviewer / Host
We definitely gonna be tuned in.
Big Bank
Yeah.
Country Wayne
March 23rd, man.
Big Bank
What kind of number? Like, one of the entities wanted you to be exclusive. We seen shots to, like, Charlamagne, 200 M's, Joe Rogan, 100 and some M's. Just the people who get them type of deals. And we know you getting plenty of paper. What kind of number would make you maybe entertain locking in with an entity? Is there a number? Yeah, half a B, half 500 M's.
Country Wayne
Yeah. If I get 100 million, man, 100 million for, like. For four years, that's 25 million a year.
Big Bank
Yeah.
Country Wayne
You want to lock me in, man? I need a half a B, man. I need a half a.
Interviewer / Host
How many years you do have a baby?
Country Wayne
I've been man on some real stuff where I'm at right now. I give them. I just say I'm years.
Big Bank
That ain't bad. That's what.
Country Wayne
They won't lock me in because it's like, right now, I'm doing Stan. It had to take me from everything
Big Bank
I'm doing, and then, like, you would be exclusive. What if it's, like, an unproven platform? Like, it ain't a Platform. It's a new platform. We got that 500 from one of them Arabian princes or some shit. Boom. But you coming to build a whole new platform. Would you with him?
Country Wayne
Yeah. Have a bean. If I get. I still want ownership. I got. You gotta talk.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah. You tired of talking.
Country Wayne
I'm trying to talk. Have a B. Yeah. Cause I'm gonna get hit with taxes for one. So I don't really want that money to come at one time.
Big Bank
Yeah.
Country Wayne
You know what I'm saying? You got the. But a half a billion. I really be like, let's just use that money to. I really want ownership of that ownership. You know, I take less with ownership. Because if we got that kind of money, let's use this to create some more content. Because you know my goal, I'm gonna build my own streaming service. Country Wayne streaming service? Yeah.
Interviewer / Host
Are you going all the way?
Country Wayne
Yeah, I got streaming service coming. But that. But this what made me do it. When I put my movie and they wanted to own it, like, man, I'm gonna build my Country Wayne streaming service. I'm gonna get my people charge $5 and it's gonna. You know what I'm saying? I ain't gonna tell everything on here because I know people listening. But I deal. I got. I know it's gonna work, and I know it's gonna make some billions. And they're gonna go back and watch this in three years. The way I'm have my streaming service, I ain't trying to be big as Netflix, but what's gonna be on there, it's gonna be strategic specific. In three years, man, I know it. It at least make 100 million a year. I know that. So it's like Virgin gonna really have to give me some money because they're not coming to get me. They coming to get my ideas. When I. When I started putting the skits out without me, I told my boy Brib, I say I'm finna make people fall in love with my mind instead of me. Because when you're a superstar and they start falling in love with you, it's dangerous. Because as soon as you remove you. So what I did on social media, I stopped being the main person on my platform because I realized the game ain't to for you to get big now. It's to get. You want your platform to be bigger than you. Because if you big something, if you don't feel like doing something, you got to be. You know what I'm saying? Like when I was Drip Buddy and Wayne, they were just on me. So that means if I stop your algorithm, go down. But I eased. That's real. I eased.
Interviewer / Host
Blake.
Country Wayne
I had a girl named Blake and Ro. I did a skit with them one day without me in it, and the fans watched it. It took them a minute to realize I wasn't in it. I said, oh, my God. I got him. And I started easing to the end. And I ease Mike in, and I ease back. Did I start writing them those stories then when I was able to write and I wasn't in them skits? It's like, this. What a platform for.
Interviewer / Host
That's what a platform.
Country Wayne
It ain't for. Yeah, but I knew no content creators weren't gonna do it because they got ego. And they not gonna never move out the way and let nobody else shine. They gonna want to stay the star versus me. I'm like, I like the money, so I don't care, Mike. Right now I got Shayla. Do better than Huskies, do better than my own on my page. I don't care.
Interviewer / Host
So it's all the same. But I knew that's what we did it for.
Country Wayne
Yeah. But I knew nobody else wasn't gonna do that because everybody want to stay the star of their page. Like, bro, it's called a network. If. If it's called, it's a network. So you can't stay the star, man. We only. Man, I don't even know how Coca Cola look who own Coca Cola? We don't know. In order for you to become a brand, you got to get your face back off it. Because if I would have stayed on social media myself, bro, and got too big, they would have stopped following me. Because if you get too big individually, man, they gonna. The hate gonna come. But you can't hate me, Mike. Bread, Shayla, Ro, and all the. I knew with the women anyway.
Interviewer / Host
Nah, You. You saying some.
Country Wayne
I knew to keep men engaged. You getting too big. People like, bro, you getting too much money.
Interviewer / Host
But and another thing of what you saying, you don't want the company to live and die off you because anything can happen to you. Anything. You can get tired of this shit.
Country Wayne
Yeah.
Interviewer / Host
Being that day. Now you're trying to build some old people up that you. You don't slip them in the right way.
Country Wayne
Slipping in the right way. Because it's like, really to even be able to do standup, I had to build it like this. Cause it was either one or the other.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah.
Country Wayne
So I had to build it. It. That's why I stopped standing up for a minute a couple years Ago, before I even announced it. But once I build it now, I could go do stand up, not go build my app. Now I go shoot a movie because that's somebody in my clique. Shoot some videos right now, right while I'm here. Tear them shooting. They. They shooting 14 for. For me today. It might shoot today. He probably shooting a dude. He probably shooting 20. Could Mike turn in shoot? Mike and Bread turn in together by 500 videos a month. 500 of them. Boys, ain't you only doing that if you're making money? I told Brad, if I went over here, I said, I'm going to be fat man.
Interviewer / Host
I said.
Country Wayne
I said. Cause I'm just proud of Bread because I met Bread in the eight. He was trying to do this. He like, he was done with DJing. Like, he left something that he was big at. And now, you know, I know. I remember a lot of people, you know what I'm saying? A lot of people were like, ain't see his potential. They ain't think he gonna come back up. But I told him, bro, I'm happy. Like, bro, bro making. I pay, bro. Making seven. Seven figures a year.
Interviewer / Host
Yeah, yeah.
Country Wayne
Him and Mike, bro, making seven figures. But them boys, they working. Them boys get it done. And they got people moving for. They got companies that might got people shooting for him. It like. It's just like the streets, you know what I'm saying? You got it. You sit here, you got chop house over there. This person doing this, man, I taught everybody the game, how to use your resources. See, I think when people think about content, they overthink it. Versus me, man. My brother, when I would drip that my real brother T, who ain't say nothing. I use my family first. I use everybody around me. You can't act, don't say nothing. So I ain't. I ain't let T talk.
Interviewer / Host
Just stay here.
Country Wayne
Just stay here. T got there drooping like, yo, T, how you feel? You gonna shake his head? Hey, kf, him in real life. Him in real life. They can't talk. They can't talk. So it was like, man, you know that social media, man, it's about building a platform and putting other people on. That's what every business about. God wants you to put people on. But you gotta have a heart to really do that. Cause that's who he gonna bless. Cause I tell a lot of people, I say, bro, these are people on my team. I say, y' all think I'm smart, but it's these ideas God giving me. Cause God know I'm gonna give it away. I say, y' all trying to post like me. And it's like, it's other country creators like Wayne, how you do this and that. I say, bro, I don't know how I do it. When God trusts you that you gonna give it away, he gonna give them ideas. He knew I was gonna give it away before I got it, you know what I'm saying? So I make sure. And when I first started, everybody was saying I was overpaying other content creators like you, stupid. But now they stuck in front of their camera because what happens is, even when you streaming, they think streaming big. But how long can you stream? Because that means you can't go do nothing else. And if you get from in front of the camera, your followers still gonna follow you. So, like, everybody, like, I'm streaming. Like, bro, streaming is a young man's game. We all remember. We stay up in the club. If I stream, my people gonna watch me take a nap. Like, man, hey, man, everybody 35 up and try to go stream if you want. All right? Yeah, that's a young man's game, because we used to stay up all night, remember? Go to the club, come back, go, go do what we got to do. But you don't want to be stuck in front of that camera because it's good to build up. But eventually you have to remove yourself for the business to grow, because you gotta go do other things
Big Bank
that makes sense. What's the biggest jam you want to give to people on big Facts, man. It's a real game, man.
Country Wayne
Some real game, man. Man, trust the one who made the sky blowing, the wind blow and made you wake up in the morning is the real one. And I promise you, man, if he. If he woke you up this morning, if you just trust him, man, you could do something that you ain't know you can do. He love you just like and. And stop competing against your own people. Two, you know, look at the real oppressors and go get what's yours. And know if somebody woke you up this morning and gave you lungs and got all these creative things in our body, we got ears that can hear. We got. You know what I'm saying? That whoever that is, which is my God Almighty, you know what I'm saying? Which I believe in Jesus, whatever that is, believe in that. And know, bro, that's your gun, that's your money, that's your everything. And that's more powerful. Powerful. Because that's one thing they can't recreate. They can find A way to create everything, but they can't recreate us for real. So believe in yourself, dog. Believe in God. Believe. Believe in the guy got in you. And. And wake up with that attitude every day. Don't let and don't never let nobody tell you that that ain't true, because it is.
Big Bank
Country Wayne dropping Big Gems on Big Fast. We appreciate you, man. We appreciate you pulling up.
Country Wayne
You just gave me a name. I'm gonna copy y' all.
Big Bank
Exactly. Big Gems.
Country Wayne
Well, you didn't say something.
Interviewer / Host
You always create.
Country Wayne
Yeah, Big Gems. We're gonna start a side podcast beside Big Fake. Gonna be Big Jail.
Big Bank
Let's do it on the country.
Interviewer / Host
Basically, bro, you living in America, so just know anything is possible basically on some cheese.
Country Wayne
That's bro, what you just said. I want to double back on that. That's what I tell everybody all the time. And when God give you a miracle, stop trying to make it regular, right? Because I tell everybody in my account, I say, the problem is y' all try to bring regular rules in a miracle. If this is a miracle or it's a hard work, let it be a miracle. And when a miracle, you gonna overpay. Overeat. I mean, you're gonna. You're gonna get more than what you're supposed to. Fact, you know, and this you get what you're supposed to back. And this boy, every day like Christmas.
Big Bank
Yeah. Yeah. Country Wayne, Big Facts. Make sure y' all check out that special.
Country Wayne
Yeah. March 23rd. Man, nostalgia. It's the realest. It's the funnest thing I. And it's for us. Yeah. And I don't know which camera I'm looking at, but. March 23rd, when Country Wayne touched that stage, you gonna know why. I'm the funniest thing out here. And ain't nothing. Ain't nothing can touch the people's soul like me when it comes to comedy, because I'm still with the people. I'm still with myself. March 23rd. Nostalgia. Your country, though. Country boys in the A coming out with a red suit and nappy hair. Yo, Big J
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Country Wayne
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Country Wayne
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Date: March 15, 2026
Guests: Kountry Wayne
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God, Big Bank, DJ Scream
Podcast Network: The Black Effect/iHeartPodcasts
This episode features comedian, entrepreneur, and digital mogul Kountry Wayne in a wide-ranging conversation on the Big Facts segment with Big Bank and DJ Scream. The discussion dives deep into Wayne's journey from a small-town upbringing to social media stardom, his approach to business and creativity, industry lessons, the economics of content creation, and principles for longevity and authenticity in the entertainment industry. The tone is candid, humorous, and insightful, laced with stories and practical advice.
Kountry Wayne provides a masterclass in the intersection of authenticity, business savvy, and creative innovation. He breaks down the myth of instant virality, underscores the importance of being intentional with audience-building, and insists on learning the business side of entertainment before chasing fame. Wayne shares practical game for artists on ownership, investing in community, resisting exploitation, and how staying true to oneself is the surest route to legacy.
Notable Takeaway:
“Believe in the guy God put in you. … That’s your gun, that’s your money, that’s your everything.” – Kountry Wayne (102:57)
Don’t forget:
Kountry Wayne’s new special “Nostalgia” drops March 23rd on Amazon Prime. (93:20, 94:00, 105:17)
(This summary omits all non-content sections, advertisements, and focuses entirely on discussion content and direct advice from the episode's key participants.)