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My name is Jacquese Thomas, and you're listening to Black Lit, a podcast about black literature and the stories behind the storytellers. Langston Hughes. Now that's a name that might conjure up some images of the Harlem Renaissance. Powerful poetry and a voice that spoke to a whole generation. But before the accolades, before the iconic lines, there was a young man with a powerful dream, a man who would set out on a journey as rich and as complex as the poetry he penned.
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What you just heard was a quote from the Great Debaters, the award winning 2007 film directed by Denzel Washington, where Denzel delivers a line inspired by Langston Hughes, I, too, am America. That single phrase, drawn from Hughes iconic poem, I Too, published in 1926, still resonates today as both a declaration and a form of defiance. Is a statement of belonging, one that bridges the divide between exclusion and inclusion. It is a black man claiming his rightful place in a nation that often tried to deny him. I, Too was written during the height of the Harlem Renaissance. The poem describes a plague that is racism. It is a poetic protest expressing how he, as a black man, experiences this outright discrimination and how, despite not being offered a seat at the quote unquote table, he does not fret, for he knows how beautiful he is and how such a beauty cannot be ignored forever. The line tomorrow I'll be at the table reinforces this belief that there is hope for America because he too is American.
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But yet must be. The land where every man is free.
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The poor man, let it be the.
Dr. Carmeletta Williams
Dream it used to be. America was never America to me.
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Today, Hughes is celebrated as one of the most significant voices of the Harlem Renaissance, a poet of the people and a cultural architect and icon. But who exactly was Langston Hughes? What experiences did he encounter? What was it like being born an only child in Joplin, Missouri, in the early 1900s to divorce parents? His childhood was fractured. His father, a man who had dreams, he just didn't believe he could reach here in America. So he escaped to Mexico, abandoning Langston and his mother.
Dr. Carmeletta Williams
Well, my father was very anti Negro, although he was.
Colleen Witt
And to add to that feeling of rejection, his mother, who was often absent in his life, left him to be raised mostly by his grandmother in a near destitute upbringing in this great big lonesome town.
Dr. Carmeletta Williams
I might starve for a year, but that extra day would get me down. In 1925, Hughes was bussing tables in.
Colleen Witt
A Washington, D.C. hotel, and he slipped.
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A few poems to the famous poet Vachel Lindsey.
Colleen Witt
Langston Hughes was a hustler. He wasn't just a poet. He was a busboy, a seaman, a cook, anything that allowed him to survive while pursuing his craft. He wrote between shifts and during long nights, determined to make his voice heard. His life was a patchwork of odd jobs, stitched together by a relentless passion for storytelling. But it wasn't just about survival. That hustle, that grit, is what makes his story so powerful. It's why his work, filled with themes of identity, resilience and chasing your dreams, finds its way into classrooms across the country. Till this day. But how does a hustling poet who spent his nights scribbling down on napkins and diners, become one of the most taught poets in American classrooms? How did Langston Hughes, the seaman, the cook, the busboy, transform into the Langston Hughes that we know today? The voice of dreams, struggles, and resilience for students everywhere? Langston had an incredible gift of seeing the beauty and the pain of life and putting it into words. His poetry captured not just his own experiences, but the pulse of a people. When he wrote about the rivers in Mississippi or the Congo or the Nile, it wasn't just as locations, but as the history of black resilience. Dream deferred doesn't just ask questions. It demands that you confront it. Mother to son is like a warm, encouraging arm around your shoulder, telling you to keep climbing. And that's why, decades later, teachers bring them into classrooms. Hughes was a bridge to history and literature, but also to empathy and understanding. His work wasn't just beautiful, it was teachable and relatable, perfect for young minds learning about America's diversity and struggles, about dreams and justice, about what it means to fight and hope and build. The language is rhythmic and clear. His ideas are timeless, but the words are simple enough to reach a middle schooler. He wrote, hold fast to your dreams, for without them, life is a broken, winged bird that cannot fly. You don't need a dictionary for that, because you can feel it in your soul. As we explore the life and legacy of Langston Hughes, we had the privilege of speaking with Dr. Carmeletta Williams, the current CEO of the Black Archives of Mid America and a scholar with three decades of experience and a passion for Hughes work. She shared a deep understanding of his life and gave historical context and insight into what made his voice so revered. Her ability to connect Langston's work to the broader black experience and contemporary conversations made her an extraordinary resource, and we were truly honored to have her with us and to share this conversation with you.
Dr. Carmeletta Williams
When he was telling stories in the blues genre, and he was telling the story that the people who made him famous, that they were living. So he was with the folks, he hung out in churches and as well as in bars, so absorbing all aspects of the culture. And that's what he wrote about. The Negro mother is powerful because it hit so many people. They're like, yeah, my mother's story is a little bit different. Basically, this is her tale, too.
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Now, through my children, young and free, I realized the blessings denied to me.
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Of course, my mother was Langston's generation or after, but I saw those stairs. I saw that journey.
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Life for me ain't been no crystal stad. It's had tax in it, boards torn up, places with no carpet on the floor bare.
Dr. Carmeletta Williams
So I think that he wrote about real life and that people didn't imagine. Plus, he was in the time. He didn't want to take the art so far afield that the regular folk, the common folk, the. What Langston called the Negro lowest down, so that they could feel it, they could accept that. And then that was what made him famous. Now, also, we know about his relationship with white folks, is that he didn't cater to them, is even though he depended on people like the godmother to give him finances and to get him published and to, you know, and he stayed in their homes. He still wrote his art and he still told about those lives. And so he bifurcated in a means that he could operate, move easily in both worlds. And that's been said of Zora, too, so we can get to that. But they moved easily through all kinds of cultures, but they stayed true to who they were, to their blackness, to their history, to their people. And those are the stories that he wrote about.
Colleen Witt
Hughes said, I want to write so that everyone can understand. And he did. That's why you find him in the pages of school books, inspiring kids to dream big, to ask questions, to see the world for what it is and for what it could be. He was an artist who refused to separate black culture from his art. To him, jazz and blues weren't just background music. They were the heartbeat and soul of his poetry. And that's what makes Langston Hughes so revolutionary and enduring. He wasn't Writing to impress an exclusive elite. He was writing to connect, to give voice to the hustlers, to the dreamers and the preachers who might otherwise go unheard. His words carried the rhythm of the streets, the pulse of jazz, and the soul of the everyday person trying to carve out a piece of the world. Langston understood that poetry wasn't just for libraries or lecture halls. It was for the people. It was for the mother humming blues while she cooked, for the busker playing a saxophone on a Harlem corner, for the worker coming home late, dreaming of a better tomorrow. Hughes speaks directly to the human condition. Raw, real, and most importantly, accessible. Breaking down the barriers between high art and popular culture.
Dr. Carmeletta Williams
We know where he came from. We know that he came from spare and meager beginnings. I tear up every time I read about him having to put newspapers in his shoes, which were usually women's shoes, that they had gotten someplace in the wintertime because they didn't have any money. Having to live with auntie and uncle because they didn't have any money. And he didn't just say, okay, I'm above this now. Langston took care of his mother till she died. And in many places along that road, he had to do without to take care of her. He's a man who searched his whole life for a close relationship with his mother and died without actually having achieved that. So he knew what life was like. He knew what people were really going through, and he didn't discard it. It's like, yeah, I'm writing in limousines to the mitt now. So he didn't let that be the controlling factor. It was always who he was at that time, where he came from, and who the people were, when it's not a mistake. I don't think that when he left and moved to New York, he moved to Harlem, you know, and he was right next door to the YMCA when he died. He lived right next door to the ymca. So that wasn't an accidental cycle. I think that was always his plan was to be with the people. And he talked about being with his people and what he could do for them. So I think that we remember him now. We read him now because we still see ourselves in his work. We see our lives, we see our history, we see our families, we see our neighbors in what he wrote, because that's what he did. He took those ordinary people and made wonderful stories. He told their stories. He made up stories about them. And that's why I think it lasts so long and still lasting now. Beautiful also is the sun beautiful also are the souls of my people, are my people, my people, my people.
Colleen Witt
This universality is why his poetry seamlessly transitions into music, influencing not only jazz and blues, but laying the groundwork for hip hop. Hughes rhythms, cadences and themes can be compared to the verses of 90s conscious rappers like Nas, Common and Tupac, who, like Hughes, spoke to the struggles and dreams of their communities. His poems are the spiritual ancestors of rap lyrics, the original anthems of resilience and pride. Langston Hughes made art for the people, for his people, and that's why his influence endures. His poetry doesn't just sit on a page, it moves, it sings, it marches. It's very much alive today, as it was in a Harlem Renaissance, proving that the rhythm of the streets is timeless.
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Sign up for Greenlight today@Greenlight.com iHeart. You are listening to Black Lit. To truly grasp the depth of Langston Hughes insight, we must look back to a defining moment in his young life. A moment that shaped the lens through which he would view the world. Envision a young Langston now living with his God fearing aunt and pipe laying uncle after the passing of his grandmother. Although he loved his aunt and uncle, he was just 13 when his aunt brought him to church to get saved. He sat nervously in a church in his hometown in Lawrence, Kansas, waiting. It was supposed to be a moment of salvation. Waiting, waiting. A rite of passage into faith. The congregation, full of fervor and hope. Waiting. Waiting for Langston to join the procession of young souls saved by God and his aunt desperately awaiting to affirm her hope. Waiting, waiting, waiting. Sat, palms sweating, Waiting, searching. He wanted to feel something, anything that would affirm the presence of a higher power. But that moment never came. Eventually, under immense pressure, he walked to the altar, not out of faith, but to fulfill his aunt's expectations and to End the spectacle. That night, alone in his room, Langston cried not tears of joy, but of profound disillusionment. He had been searching for God and instead found the weight of expectation and pretense. The walls were thin, and his aunt heard his tears and assumed they were of glory. This was a moment that would stay with him, shaping his understanding of faith, community, and the gap between societal norms and individual truth.
Dr. Carmeletta Williams
We know that story because he's hearing and he's hearing and he's hearing that all of these children are all going to be saved. And he knows some of them are faking it because they talk about it. And then when it comes to the point where he's the last kid sitting and this service is not going to end if he doesn't, then he goes to the. To the altar and he pretends to have seen Jesus. And then that night, you know, when he goes home, he hears his Auntie Reed and Uncle Reed talking, and she talks about how proud she is of him for having found God. And Uncle Reed doesn't care at all. You know, he's not that religious person. But then he feels guilt because he had lied to people who had been so good to him. And I think that's the reason that when he needed God, he didn't come to me. He wasn't there. He didn't come to him. So I think that's why we see this mixture of emotions when it comes to religion in his work, because we see those women that he writes about who actually retreat to the church because their lives, their personal lives are so heavy and they can't deal with the. They go to the church, they retreat to the church. But we also see him go, going to church, and he has a good time when he goes, but he goes to listen to the music and listen to the people, not necessarily to connect with God. So we have then this split, this bifurcation of this guy who was raised in the people that he. The person that he loved most. And to read, who took care of him and took care of his grandmother, wanted to embed this religion in him. And then him thinking as a child that God didn't go when I needed it. So what does he do with that? Well, he keeps going to church, to different churches. And somehow, I think at times he was pretending just to be going for the music, because he could have heard the music, music other places, but he also wanted to be in that community of blackness.
Colleen Witt
This pivotal experience would later ring throughout Hughes work. His poetry often wrestled with the tension between belief and Skepticism, hope and despair. In poems like the Negro Speaks of Rivers and Goodbye Christ, he grapples with the spiritual and existential questions that define not just his life, but the lives of many. He understood the beauty and the power of faith, but he also saw how it could be weaponized or hollowed out by human failings. This experience marks a consistent conflict that shows up throughout Langston's work. Later on, after visiting the Soviet Union and seeing socialism working, here are a few words from the poem Goodbye Christ where Hughes calls for a rethinking of dominant American beliefs. Listen, Christ, you did all right in your day, I reckon. But that day's gone now. They ghosted you up. A swell story, too. Called it Bible, but it's dead now. The popes and the preachers have made much money from it. Langston Hughes search for truth, beginning at that church pew, was never about easy answers. It was about embracing the complexity of life, the struggles and contradictions that make us human. And in doing so, he became the unchallenged spokesman of the black experience.
Dr. Carmeletta Williams
He wanted to be with those black folk in the church. He wanted to share their life stories, he wanted to hear their testimonies, and he wanted them to sing that story out so that he could absorb that. And then on the other hand, you know, he. When he talks about music, he talks a lot about the blues. And the blues, he says, are the stories of those people that starts in their gut and tells those stories. And when he needed help, it was the people. And when he wanted to fill whole, he went to the people. It was the folk that helped Weimaster. The folk sustained him, the folk who helped him to reach his goals and realize his dreams. So for me, I think Langston's religion and his non religion were all a total immersion into black life. This is what it feels to be black. And he wants to feel all aspects of it.
Colleen Witt
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What you just heard was Yasin Bay, the artist known as Mos Def, reciting Hughes Harlem Sweeties on an episode of HBO's Deaf Poetry Jam. It's a powerful connection between two eras, but also transcends time, where poetry becomes music becomes culture, becomes life itself. Hughes wasn't just a writer, he was a witness. He documented the black experience in all its complexity. The pain and the perseverance, but also the beauty. And unlike Harlem Sweeties, he celebrates the beauty of black women, the laughter and the loss. He gave dignity to lives ignored, carving out spaces for those stories to be heard.
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Many of my poems are poems about the problems of American democracy in general as applied to race.
Colleen Witt
Langston Hughes is one of the greatest poets to ever exist.
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I am fed up with Jim Crow laws. People who are cruel and afraid, who.
Colleen Witt
Lynch and run as I am the.
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Lose the very roots of hip hop are in Langston Hughes work. The flow of his words, the raw honesty of his storytelling. They form the blueprint for artists like Kendrick, Andre, 3,000 black thought, most deaf. They embody Hughes core sensibility to take the everyday struggles and triumphs of black life and turn them into art. Langston Hughes was a poet of truth. He didn't shy away from the tension between faith and doubt, between family and interdependence. In fact, his work often peeled back the layers of social norms to reveal what lies beneath humanity. Langston didn't just write about the world, he changed how we see it. He turned the Harlem streets into poetry, transformed jazz and blues into structure, and made a legacy that flows like the mighty river from the Harlem Renaissance to the beats of hip hop. But before the poet, before the legacy, there was the revival. A moment of silence, a moment doubt. And the moment when Langston Hughes began to discover his truth. It was the birth of a vision not bound by what should be, but by what is. You had to risk it all you.
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Colleen Witt
Now I can see what I owe to Langston, what I owe to W E B Dubois, what I owe to Frederick Douglas. As my team and I were wrapping up the edit and final selects for this episode, we received word of Nikki Giovanni's passing. So in honor of her, we end on a poem she wrote for Langston Hughes. Rest in peace to you both. Thank you for your literature, your art, your words, your poetry, and for your ancestral mentorship. We are grateful.
Dr. Carmeletta Williams
If I took a rainbow ride I could be there by your side. Metaphor has its point of view Allusion and illusion too Meter, verse, classical free poems are what you do to me.
Colleen Witt
Join us next week as we explore more of Langston's life and work. Black Lit Is a Black Effect Original series in partnership with I Heart Media is written and created by myself, Jacquees Thomas, and executive produce alongside Dolly S. Bishop. Chanel Collins is the director of production, Head of Talent, Nicole Spence, Writer, Producer Jason Torres. Our researcher and producer is Jabari Davis and the mix and sound design is by the humble Duane Crawford. Special thanks to Dr. Carmeletta Williams. Gratitude is an action, so I have to give praise to those who took the time out to write a review. Please keep sharing and we will promise to bring more writers and greater episodes to you. Also, if you're looking to become a writer or in search of a supportive writing community, join me for a free creative writing session on my website blackwritersroom.com blkwritersroom.com or hit me up directly for more details@_TSPeace that's peace.
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Podcast Summary: The Breakfast Club – BLK LIT: We, Too: The Life, Legacy and Longevity of Langston Hughes
Podcast Information:
Introduction to the Episode
The episode opens with Colleen Witt, the host of the "Black Lit" series within The Breakfast Club, delving into the profound life and enduring legacy of Langston Hughes, a pivotal figure of the Harlem Renaissance. Skipping over commercial interruptions, Witt sets the stage for an in-depth exploration of Hughes' contributions to literature and his lasting impact on American culture.
Langston Hughes' Early Life
Langston Hughes was born as an only child in Joplin, Missouri, in the early 1900s to divorced parents, leading to a fractured childhood. Hughes' father, burdened by unfulfilled dreams, abandoned the family to seek a better life in Mexico, leaving young Langston to be raised primarily by his grandmother. This early experience of abandonment and economic hardship deeply influenced his worldview and literary themes.
"Before the accolades, before the iconic lines, there was a young man with a powerful dream..."
— Colleen Witt [02:41]
Dr. Carmeletta Williams, CEO of the Black Archives of Mid America, provides additional context, highlighting Hughes' impoverished upbringing and the absence of his parents:
"He had to put newspapers in his shoes, which were usually women's shoes, that they had gotten someplace in the wintertime because they didn't have any money."
— Dr. Carmeletta Williams [10:38]
Challenges and Struggles
Hughes' early life was marked by significant challenges, including economic hardship and familial instability. In 1925, while working as a busboy in a Washington, D.C. hotel, Hughes began writing poetry during his shifts, demonstrating his relentless pursuit of his artistic passion despite financial instability.
"Langston Hughes was a hustler. He wasn't just a poet. He was a busboy, a seaman, a cook, anything that allowed him to survive while pursuing his craft."
— Colleen Witt [06:56]
Langston Hughes as a Hustler and Poet
Hughes' multifaceted life as a laborer underscored his commitment to making his voice heard. His work ethic and dedication to storytelling were fueled by his experiences in various low-wage jobs, which provided him with rich material for his poetry. Hughes' ability to weave the rhythms of jazz and blues into his verse made his work resonate with a broad audience.
"He wrote between shifts and during long nights, determined to make his voice heard."
— Colleen Witt [06:56]
Impact and Legacy
Langston Hughes is celebrated as one of the most significant voices of the Harlem Renaissance. His poetry not only reflects his personal experiences but also embodies the collective struggles and aspirations of the African American community. Hughes' use of accessible language and rhythmic flow made his work a staple in American classrooms, bridging the gap between high art and popular culture.
"Hughes said, 'I want to write so that everyone can understand.' And he did."
— Colleen Witt [12:53]
Dr. Carmeletta Williams emphasizes Hughes' deep connection to the black community and his unwavering commitment to telling their stories:
"He wanted to share their life stories, he wanted to hear their testimonies, and he wanted them to sing that story out so that he could absorb that."
— Dr. Carmeletta Williams [27:52]
Connection to Modern Culture
Hughes' influence extends beyond literature into modern music genres like hip hop. His rhythmic and thematic parallels can be seen in the works of conscious rappers like Nas, Common, and Tupac, who echo Hughes' focus on community struggles and dreams.
"The very roots of hip hop are in Langston Hughes' work. The flow of his words, the raw honesty of his storytelling. They form the blueprint for artists like Kendrick, Andre 3000, Black Thought."
— Colleen Witt [30:21]
Hughes' poetry serves as a spiritual ancestor to rap lyrics, highlighting themes of resilience and pride that continue to inspire contemporary artists.
Personal Reflections and Conclusion
The episode concludes with reflections on Hughes' enduring legacy and his role as a bridge between past and present cultural expressions. Colleen Witt pays homage to Hughes and other literary giants, noting the profound impact their work has on future generations.
"Langston Hughes is one of the greatest poets to ever exist."
— Colleen Witt [30:03]
The episode ends with a poignant acknowledgment of Nikki Giovanni's passing, honoring her contributions alongside Hughes', underscoring the interconnectedness of black literary voices.
"Rest in peace to you both. Thank you for your literature, your art, your words, your poetry, and for your ancestral mentorship."
— Colleen Witt [31:55]
Notable Quotes
Langston Hughes' Declaration:
"I, too, am America."
— Quoted from "The Great Debaters," inspired by Hughes' poem "I, Too" [03:34]
Dr. Carmeletta Williams on Hughes' Community Connection:
"He was a bridge to history and literature, but also to empathy and understanding." [12:53]
Colleen Witt on Hughes' Legacy in Education:
"His work is teachable and relatable, perfect for young minds learning about America's diversity and struggles." [14:35]
Conclusion
This episode of The Breakfast Club's "Black Lit" series offers a comprehensive and engaging exploration of Langston Hughes' life, legacy, and enduring influence on American culture. Through insightful discussions and expert commentary, listeners gain a deeper appreciation for Hughes' contributions to literature and his role in shaping the narrative of the African American experience.