DONKEY: Mom & 9 Y/O Son Beaten By Group Of Students Outside Chicago School

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Breakfast Club

Episode: DONKEY: Mom & 9 Y/O Son Beaten By Group Of Students Outside Chicago School

Air Date: November 19, 2025
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God
Segment: Donkey of the Day

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Overview

This episode’s “Donkey of the Day” segment, hosted by Charlamagne Tha God, focuses on a disturbing attack in Chicago where a group of children and teens jumped a 33-year-old mother, Konda Hatter, and her 9-year-old son near their school. The hosts reflect on the incident’s implications for youth behavior, parenting, community responsibility, and the urgent need for consequences and intervention.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Incident Recap & Immediate Reactions

• Charlamagne Tha God details the attack, expressing outrage and sorrow over the violence against Konda Hatter and her son.
• He refuses to watch the video due to its disturbing nature, emphasizing its emotional impact.
• A Fox 32 news report is referenced for factual details:
  • Casey Kronos (Fox 32, 04:04): “A 33 year old mother named Korshanda and her 9 year old son were viciously attacked… near 106th and Bensley. Her young daughter was also there. The terrifying incident unfolded just a couple blocks away from Orville Bright Elementary School, where the boy is a student. Shonda says they were walking home when a group of kids began following them, then started punching and kicking the mother and son.”

2. On Consequences & Community Environment

• Charlamagne underscores the need for consequences, “There are consequences to every action. I look at this situation and I think to myself, man, I don't care what happens to those kids. But I know I'm lying to myself because I do care what happens…” (05:04)
• He describes the socio-economic and environmental conditions that can lead to such behavior but refuses to excuse it; punishment to the “full extent of the law” is warranted.
• He reflects on changing social norms: “There was a time when kids respected the elders… But now these kids is jumping the grownups.” (06:53)

3. Bullying and School Environment

• The hosts reveal bullying at Orville Bright Elementary as the underlying trigger for the attack.

4. Victim’s Perspective

• A heartfelt clip from Konda Hatter:
  • “They fought my son. Hit my son first all in his face. Then they dragged me in the grass and pulled my little baby hair. I'm trying to get justice for my son.” (07:44)
• She expresses gratitude for community support.

5. On Adult Intervention and Parenting

• Charlamagne and DJ Envy discuss the responsibilities of both parents and bystanders:
  • The need for adults to intervene in such situations.
  • Fear and social paralysis are noted as bystander factors — “Maybe they didn't realize that this woman was 33… maybe you didn't realize it though.” (09:44)
  • The importance of monitoring what children consume on social media: “You better monitor what they watching on YouTube and what they taking in on social media. Because Satan is not playing with the minds of our children.” (08:25)
  • “Takes a village. Where was the village?” (09:44)

6. Justice, Accountability, and Child Services

• Stacy Shells Harvey, CEO of Regeneration Schools, suggests Child Protective Services (CPS) should investigate all children involved, “identifying every child from the video, monitoring households, holding parents accountable, and making sure these kids go to school.” (11:19)
• The idea of school suspensions and CPS oversight is discussed.
• DJ Envy expresses concern about government intervention: “It's scary when you bring in, you know, cps because you just don't want nobody's child taken out for an unjust reason…” (12:31)
• Both agree: holding children and parents accountable is essential, but the process must be careful and just.

7. Youth Accountability and Rehabilitation

• The hosts struggle with determining the appropriate punishment for the attackers—acknowledging the challenges of discipline, involvement of authorities, and the risk of ongoing behavior.
• Also recognize the trauma for victims and importance of community support, highlighting rapper Lil Z Osama’s gesture of flying out the family for support (10:38).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Charlamagne:

  • “I hate to hear people that helpless. Okay. I know we say things like hate is a strong word and it is… I hate that kind of behavior. I hate people who display that kind of behavior.” (05:04)
  • “If you want to act grown, you should get treated grown in situations like this one. I'm all for that, okay?” (05:43)
  • “We really need to address youth mental health with social and emotional learning in schools. But when I hear stories like this, it lets me know we also need priests to perform exorcisms on some of these kids, okay?” (06:21)
  • “Please let Remy Ma give these youngest who jumped Krishan De Hatters and her nine year old son the biggest hee ...” (08:43)

• DJ Envy:

  • “I'm surprised the parents there didn't say, you know what?... at least stop them from jumping that pregnant woman… Or, I wonder, like other ... other kids their age not trying to stop it, you know?” (09:00–09:38)

• Konda Hatter (victim):

  • “I'm trying to get justice for my son. I'm thankful for everybody that came out here today to support.” (07:44)

• Charlamagne on Parental Responsibility:

  • “If you love your child and you don't want to have to dress your child in a fresh quarter zip for their funeral, then you better teach them some damn respect.” (08:25)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:25 – Charlamagne introduces the Donkey of the Day topic
• 04:04–05:04 – Recap and news report of the attack
• 05:04–06:53 – Reflections on consequences, environment, and parenting
• 07:44 – Victim (Konda Hatter) shares her experience
• 08:03–08:52 – Discussion on justified self-defense and parental discipline
• 09:00–10:38 – Should adults intervene? What’s proper community/bystander response?
• 10:38–12:31 – Suggestions from school leadership (Stacy Harvey) and response from hosts
• 12:31–13:12 – DJ Envy and Charlamagne discuss CPS, interventions, and risks

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Tone and Language

The conversation is urgent, raw, and unfiltered, reflecting both deep frustration and concern for community. The hosts deploy humor, seriousness, and candid critique.

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Conclusion

This “Donkey of the Day” is a powerful critique of the systemic failures leading to youth violence and a call for greater accountability among children, parents, and community alike. The hosts wrestle openly with how best to address such tragic incidents, balancing the need for consequences with understanding the environment and offering support for victims. The episode serves as both a wake-up call and an appeal to collective responsibility.

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Transcript

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[DJ Envy]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just wanted to know how you came up with the donkey of the day.

[Podcast Narrator]

Because you're mean. I am not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What did I do? Automate donkey of the day. There's a bunch of donkeys out here in the street.

[Podcast Narrator]

That is why Charlemagne is here. Charlamagne is here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If we live a life where we bite our tongue based off who we may have seen, we never would say anything. You don't give a damn. Go throw it up. Hey, give it to us.

[DJ Envy]

Give it to us on the Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

In the words of Charlamagne, the go a donkey that was.

[Josh Zieman]

Oh man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Charlemagne. You giving donkey the day to who now? Well, Buster Ryan's donkey today for Wednesday, November 19th goes to those group of children and teens in Chicago who decided they wanted to jump. A 33 year old mother named Konda Hatter and her 9 year old son. Konda, I am so sorry that happened to you and your son. I refused to watch the video because reading about the story was enough to just disturb my spirit, okay? Hearing the news report was enough to disturb my spirit and I hate to disturb your spirits this morning. Well, let's go to Fox 32 for the report, please. Well, there is outrage in South Daring tonight. A mother and child beaten on the way home from school. The attack was caught on cell phone.

[Casey Kronos]

Video and has sparked demands for immediate action.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Casey Kronos is live at Chicago police headquarters with the latest. Casey?

[Casey Kronos]

That's right. And community members, as you mentioned, they want answers now. Mayor Brandon Johnson and other elected officials tonight are condemning the attack as well, calling it de disturbing. And we need to warn you it is heartbreaking to watch this video. It happened yesterday shortly after school dismissal and we have blurred and frozen the video before things escalate. Chicago police are now investigating after a 33 year old mother named Korshanda and her 9 year old son were viciously attacked near 106th and Bensley. Her young daughter was also there. The terrifying incident unfolded just a couple blocks away from Orville Bright Elementary School where the boy is a student. Shonda says they were walking home when a group of kids began following them, then started punching and kicking the mother and son.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I hate to hear people that helpless. Okay. I know we say things like hate is a strong word and it is and it's perfectly okay to say I hate that kind of behavior. I hate people who display that kind of behavior. I don't care that they're kids, okay? The news reports that children and teens, okay, Children and teens, kids, whatever you want to call them. There's something you need to learn early that a lot of people learn late. And what you need to learn is there are consequences to every action. I look at this situation and I think to myself, man, I don't care what happens to those kids. But I know I'm lying to myself because I do care what happens to those kids because I understand the environment that makes those kids become those little savages, okay? I know the socio economic conditions that created that. Not excusing their behavior at all because I want them to be punished to the full extent of the law. What I actually want to happen or wanted to happen was for some other adults to come through and intervene, okay, while it was happening and start beating they low ass. Because if you want to act grown, you should get treated grown in situations like this one. I'm all for that, okay? For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. They needed their little heads busted, okay? They needed their young asses kicked. You know, I am a huge mental health advocate, okay? I have a non profit called the Mental Health alliance and we advocate for social emotional learning in schools. These kids need it. We really need to address youth mental health with social and emotional learning in schools. But when I hear stories like this, it lets me know we also need priests to perform exorcisms on some of these kids, okay? I don't know the ages of these kids, all right? But the, the ones that were teens need to face severe consequences. And the ones that weren't teens, I don't even know how you begin to punish them because what are they afraid of? If you jump in a 33 year old woman and her 9 year old son in broad daylight, what are you afraid of? What are you afraid of? Losing. Tick tock. Huh? These, these types of kids aren't even afraid to die because they clearly don't understand the value of life yet. Because if they value their own lives, then they would value the lives of others and they would never do anything like this. All right, Ice, you might be detaining and deporting the wrong people. All right? This is the epitome of we losing recipes. There was a time when kids respected the elders. And Kashanda, I know you're 33, but you an elder to those kids. And there was a time you didn't cut up in front of the elders. In fact, whatever BS you was on, you stopped when an adult came around. You didn't fight in front of the grownups. But now these kids is jumping the grownups. And what's sad is Corshawna said the situation stemmed from bullying at Chicago's Orville Bright elementary School. So imagine comforting your nine year old trying to protect them from bullying, and these little punks end up jumping on you too. Let's listen to Sister Krishna speak, please.

[Podcast Narrator]

They fought my son. Hit my son first all in his face. Then they dragged me in the grass and pulled my little baby hair. I'm trying to get justice for my son. I'm thankful for everybody that came out here today to support.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Man. I. I love us, but I love me more. And you can't use youth as an excuse to not hurt one of these kids. And if Kashanda would have had a pistol on her and let a shot fly, y' all be. Y' all be crucifying her right now for shooting a child when the reality is all she was trying to do was protect herself and her nine year old. Okay, let me tell you YN something. And let me tell you Yn's parents something. Y' all better get these kids the recipes, okay? You better monitor what they watching on YouTube and what they taking in on social media. Because Satan is not playing with the minds of our children. And I don't give a damn. The first law of nature is self preservation. If you love your child and you don't want to have to dress your child in a fresh quarter zip for their funeral, then you better teach them some damn respect. Please let Remy Ma give these youngest who jumped Krishan De Hatters and her nine year old son the biggest hee.

[DJ Envy]

Haw, hee haw hee. Hawk, you stupid mother.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Are you dumb? And that just disturbed my spirit. Because the reality is, I don't even know what you do to them kids.

[DJ Envy]

I'm with you. I'm surprised the parents there didn't say, you know what?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's stop it.

[DJ Envy]

I'm not gonna say beat up them little kids. Cause then they would get in trouble somehow, some way. But at least stop them from jumping that pregnant woman or, nah, you can.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Smack the hell out one of the little kids. You ain't gotta put that. You can jump into that crowd and start get your stupid little ass down.

[DJ Envy]

Or I wonder, like other. Other kids their age not trying to stop it, you know?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, right.

[DJ Envy]

Because even as a kid would sit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There and watch because their peers beat.

[DJ Envy]

On a pregnant woman. Because my kids.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She wasn't pregnant.

[DJ Envy]

I would see my. Oh, she wasn't pregnant.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, my kids. I couldn't see my kids allowing that. Like they would jump in, trying to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Stop if they went to that zone, you know, the kid's job.

[DJ Envy]

I'm not. But still, it's just what you're taught at the crib.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But no, that's, that's, that's, that's when the. That's when the adults are supposed to intervene. Okay. Takes a village. Where was the village? Yeah, but what if the village is, you know, so. No, the kids gotta step in. I'm just saying that there should have been some, some, some, some adults to intervene in that situation. I don't even know how you watch that go down. Or maybe they thought it was just a bunch of little kids fighting. Maybe they didn't realize that this woman was 33. That it was somebody. Yeah, maybe you didn't realize it though.

[DJ Envy]

You see them K. You probably.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you no in. In Chicago. Well, you probably see that all the time. You like, you know what? Let me stay away from them little guys. They might got pistols and all kind of stuff.

[DJ Envy]

But then what punishment do you get him?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

K. That's all I'm trying to figure out. What do. What is the punishment for you get.

[DJ Envy]

Tik Tok away, like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, I'm trying to figure out right now. I have no idea.

[DJ Envy]

Don't sell for it. They try to scare the ish out of him. Like, what do you do to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know. And salute to little Z Osama too, man. I saw that act of service you did. He's flying out from when I was rapping from Chicago. Yeah, yeah, he flying out. Cashonda had her and her 9 year old to LA to do some nice things for them, man. So I mean that's, that's the least you can do in somebody's experience that type of trauma. But I don't know, bro. I don't know, man. All right. My good friend, Stacy Shells Harvey, she hit me up. She is the CEO of Regeneration Schools. Dropping the clues bombs for Stacy Harvey, okay? CEO of Regeneration Schools. She heard us discussing what should happen to these kids because, you know, we really don't know what should happen to these kids. And she had some suggestions, right? She is, like I said, the CEO of Regeneration Schools. Co founder of the organization operates a network of kindergarten to 8th grade public charter schools in Chicago and Cincinnati. And she said that Child Protective Services should get involved.

[DJ Envy]

Child Protective Services?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Parents yeah. She said Child Protective services should get involved. They need to identify every child involved from the video.

[DJ Envy]

They're gonna do that regardless.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All of those families should be in Child Protective Services, where someone from the county is coming out to see what's going on in the household, holding the parents accountable, making sure these kids go to school. She said the school should issue suspensions because it was a dismissal. That's still their jurisdiction. But then Child Protective services should then be monitoring the children's behaviors at schools, getting reports from the schools and families. And they should know that if anything else happens with your kid is going to the next level, because people don't like the idea of government getting involved. But when your child is behaving like that, there has to be consequences, and there has to be consequences coming from somewhere. And she said it happens all over Chicago all the time. This is not a new thing where, you know, kids are trying to fight adults or kids are trying to fight their teachers.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, okay. I mean, it's scary when you bring in, you know, cps because you just don't want nobody's child taken out for an unjust reason. Right. If they have a history, yes, I get it. But sometimes kids are just stupid, and kids do what their friends do. You know what I mean? Which is stupid. I'm not saying I'm not giving them a reason to, but I would hate to see a kid taken out of.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Here's the thing about a family without them, you know, if you don't intervene now, that behavior continues. And guess what? You ain't gonna have to call nobody. They gonna come get your ass once you become an adult. All right. And you do stuff like that, right? Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

No, those kids definitely should be held accountable. But I'm just. I would hate to CPS to take them kids out the house without having the parents beat their ass first.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know. I'm just telling you what Stacey said.

[DJ Envy]

All right. Salute to Stacy. Thank you, Stacy. All right, when we come back, we got the positive no end more so don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

If you are not an oyster lover, don't even talk to me.

[Eva Longoria]

Ancient Athenians used to scratch names onto oyster shells to vote politicians into exile. So our word ostracize is related to the word oyster.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No way.

[Eva Longoria]

Bring back the ostracon. Listen to Hungry for history on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podc.

[Podcast Narrator]

I knew it was a bomb the second that it exploded. I felt it rip through me.

[Rip Current Narrator]

In season two of Rip Current, we ask who tried to kill Judy Berry and why.

[Coca-Cola Announcer]

They were climbing trees and they were sabotaging logging equipment in the woods.

[Rip Current Narrator]

She received death threats before the bombing. She received more threats after the bombing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think that this is a deliberate attempt to sabotage our movement.

[Rip Current Narrator]

Episodes of Rip Current Season 2 are available now listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Podcast Narrator]

This is an iHeart podcast.