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Lauren LaRosa
As you can see, you know, we don't always agree with a lot of things that perfidia do, but for the most part, we see a survivor. We see a woman that's in survival mode. You know, we also see a woman that's unapologetically herself, but then she is also, like, mysterious and, like, you know, she got, like, a little sex appeal that's like, you know, how's she pulling them in like that? You feel me? You know, she's mysterious and she's also like, a master manipulator, and she's like a octopus. She can like, get her way out of anything. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I love that.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Good morning, USA. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. Jazz.
Lauren LaRosa
Hilarious.
Charlamagne Tha God
What's going on? Charlemagne the guy. I don't even know why we did that just now. Right, I understand why, because nobody is here. Okay, but that was pointless. Thank you, Brandon, for giving me to run the show. I appreciate you, young Ghana. I go by the name of Charlemagne, the God. Good morning. How y' all feel out there? I feel blessed. Black and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Fresh off the I Heart radio music festival 2025. Okay, I landed last night around 10 o', clock, 11 o', clock, back from Vegas. And we're here and nobody else is. Okay. Envy, I think, will be back tomorrow. I don't know where Jess is. I don't know where Lauren LaRosa is, but Mimi Brown will be up next with Front Page News. And I think we have a special guest. This is what we're doing today. I was told something else. Yes, yesterday afternoon. He just told you. Okay, well, Bobby Brown will be joining us. Not Bobby Brown, the. The R B icon. Bobby Brown, the founder of two major cosmetic companies. You know, she founded Bobby Brown Cosmetics back in the day. Now she has Jones Road, but she has a new book still, Bobby. A Masterclass in leading an Authentic Life. And she'll be here this morning to talk to us all about it. Okay, so we got Front Page News coming up next. It's the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club. Drop on the Clues bombs for Glorilla. Man, watch Glorilla. I think that was my first time ever seeing Glorilla perform this weekend at the iHeartradio Music Festival. She actually closed the festival. She was the last act to go on on Saturday night. So that was fun to watch. Man, salute the big glow. It's time for Front Page News with Mimi Brown. Good morning, Mimi.
Bobby Brown
Good morning.
Mimi Brown
Good morning. How y' all doing this or how you doing, Charlamagne?
Charlamagne Tha God
I am blessed. Black and highly favored. I would do NFL scores, but I don't care because the Cowboys got their ass kicked yesterday. So I don't care about nothing else that happened in the league. Not even a little bit?
Bobby Brown
Not even a little bit.
Lauren LaRosa
We'll go Birds.
Mimi Brown
I know you don't want to hear that.
Charlamagne Tha God
Nope.
Lauren LaRosa
Go Birds.
Charlamagne Tha God
So what we got in front of page news? Yep.
Mimi Brown
We gonna start off this morning in Arizona where tens of thousands packed State Farm Stadium for the funeral and public memorial of conservative activist Charlie Kirk. A 31 year old activist Turning Point co founder was shot and killed less than two weeks ago at a campus event in Utah. Now President Trump, he highlighted headlined the service calling Kirk a martyr for American freed and vowing to award him the presidential Medal of Freedom. At times, Trump slipped into campaign style lines, but making it clear he treats his opponents differently than Kirk did. Let's listen to that message.
Charlamagne Tha God
He was a missionary with a noble spirit and a great, great purpose. He did not hate his opponents. He wanted the best for them. That's where I disagreed with Charlie. I hate my opponent and I don't want the best for them. I'm sorry, I am sorry, Erica. But now Erica can talk to me and the whole group and maybe they can convince me that that's not right. But I can't stand my opponent. You know what's so interesting about that? He said that at, you know, Charlie Kirk's memorial. But that's how some people feel about Charlie Kirk. Like that's the same rhetoric that, that the, the right was pushing back against last week when they were saying things like, you know, how could y' all celebrate, you know, you know, his passing, which I don't condone by the way. But that is exactly the same energy that he bought to the memorial by saying he don't care about his opponents. You know, what do you say? I hate. I hate my opponents. I don't want to see my opponents succeed.
Mimi Brown
I don't want to see them win.
Charlamagne Tha God
I want to see them win.
Bobby Brown
Jesus, all of all of the things.
Mimi Brown
And so on the opposite spectrum of that, Kirk's widow, Erica, she delivered maybe the most emotional moment of the day, telling the crowd she forgives her husband's accused killer. Let's listen to that moment.
Bobby Brown
I forgive him. I forgive him because it was what Christ did and is what Charlie would do. The answer to hate is not hate.
Lauren LaRosa
The answer we know from the gospel is love and always love.
Bobby Brown
Love for our enemies and love for those who persecute us.
Mimi Brown
And so she got a standing ovation after saying that she forgave her or forgives her husband's killer. Vice President J.D. vance, he also spoke, telling the stadium the day was not a funeral, but a revival, saying Kirk's death will spark a Christian awakening. Donald Trump Jr. He was also there. He urged supporters to carry the movement forward, saying when they took his life, a million more Charlies stepped up to fill the void. Other speakers included Kirk's pastor Rob McCoy, senior Trump advisors Stephen Miller, Cabinet officials like Defense Secretary Pete Hesit, the Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy and tech billionaire Elon Musk was also spotted alongside Donald Trump. They were sitting together. That's getting a lot of press this morning. And outside, the police say the line stretched for more than a mile with some people turned away after the stadium hit. Capacity now. Inside, Erica Kirk, now named CEO of Turning Point usa, promised her husband's work will continue to. Will continue and grow stronger. And also I think notable Charlemagne, President Trump, he made a statement saying that there would be an announcement coming sometime today related to autism, something that Charlie Kirk reportedly was involved in. Some are saying there he's going to talk about a cure to autism. So we'll have to stay tuned and hear what that's going to be.
Charlamagne Tha God
You know, I always respect and wonder about people who, who have that type of strength that, you know, Erica Kirk showed on up there, you know, to forgive their. The killer of somebody that they love. But I don't know if I'm one of them, you know what I'm saying? I feel like forgiveness or not having forgiveness is probably like grief. It probably comes in waves. Like some moments you probably feel like, you know, you forgive the person who killed somebody you love because you're supposed to.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
But then I'm sure there's some days where you like F that person.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah. Especially Good Morning. Especially because she gotta look at their kids, you know what I mean, and have those conversations with their kids as they continue to ask questions for the rest of their lives now.
Charlamagne Tha God
And I wonder, do you even give yourself an opportunity to really like, feel what it is you feeling or do you just default to forgiveness because that's what your Bible says you should do. That's what the Christian in you says you should do. It says you're supposed to forgive. But do you really feel that way? I don't know. I don't know if that's possible.
Lauren LaRosa
I don't know.
Mimi Brown
She says she felt every emotion that a human person could feel.
Charlamagne Tha God
I believe that. Yeah.
Mimi Brown
Seeing what happened to her husband. So, you know, I'm sure it goes in waves. Some days she's in, Some days she's out.
Bobby Brown
Up and down, you know, so well.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right, y', all, what we got next hour.
Mimi Brown
Mimi, I'm coming up at 7. We'll tell you. You know, inflation is hitting everybody in every state but one state has a plan to fight back. And we'll tell you what state that is.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right, we got more front page news next hour, but right now it's time for get it off your chest. If you want to call up and tell us why you're blessed. If you want to call up and tell us why you're upset, you could do that, too. Okay. 1-800-585-1051. It's the world's most dangerous morning show. The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. Wake up.
Lauren LaRosa
Wake up. Wake your ass.
Charlamagne Tha God
This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Who's this? Paige. Will. How are you, sir? I'm from Kingston, South Florida, Bro, didn't you have spoke before? King Street. What's happening? You know King street, right by Monks Corner? I used to be. I used to host at the Nightlife Nightlife nightclub in King street back in the day. I remember when you was at Z93, correct? No, I was at high 98. Nine then. Yep. Okay, whatever. But anyway, did you see the Magister from Charleston have sent us hundreds and.
Caller
Hundreds of brothers jail, and now he got himself in federal custody with children pornography.
Charlamagne Tha God
Did you say that? I think I. I think that briefly did come across My. My. My feed. Yes. I think I saw something. And this guy was one of the Crickets. Managed it here down in Charleston. What's his name? What was the judge's name?
Caller
I. I saw it this Morning on Channel 2, dudes.
Charlamagne Tha God
I forgot his name, but I was following it. But that was one of the things I wanted. Another thing. James Gosnell. James Gosnell Jr. Okay. Yeah, that's him. Yep. And one. One more thing. Quickly. Charlemagne. I know that it's been a minute since everyone was speaking about them up there, but, you know, it's amazing how people is cooking on Damon Dash about his downfall. And I just want to say, you.
Caller
Know, that that circle goes around.
Charlamagne Tha God
You know, we never know where we're going to end up. So it's amazing how people just want him instead of being my brother keeper. Because, you know, I've seen Wendy Williams.
Caller
Cook people blind sign people.
Charlamagne Tha God
Never figured the day that she would have her downfall. So we got to be mindful how we throw bricks. I think people also got to be mindful of how they throw bricks when they're down. Just because a person is down don't mean that they, they can't still kick you. Like people like to say don't kick. Absolutely. People like to say don't kick somebody when they down. But what about when the person down still kicking? You know what I mean? I, I, I agree with you, but like I said, just be mindful. Not to you, but just people. And I hope Damon comes back to where he needs to be full circle and just remember the things he's done. Because with all gonna reap the seed that we saw. You know, that is very true, my brother. Thank you for calling. Good morning. Get it off your chest. Who's this?
Caller
Good morning, this is Cash. I'm calling from D.C. peace.
Charlamagne Tha God
Cash from D.C. what's happening?
Caller
First of all, I just want to say that I listen to you all every day. I love you so much.
Charlamagne Tha God
Thank you very much. I appreciate that.
Caller
Doing what you're doing. So I wanted to say how blessed I am because I just turned 52. I fought and wanted this breast cancer and life is good.
Charlamagne Tha God
Congratulations, man. Look at God. Look at God.
Lauren LaRosa
Hear that?
Caller
Yes. Thank you. And I have one. I'm sorry.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, no, go ahead. What you say?
Caller
I was going to say, I have one favor to ask of your listeners.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Caller
My son is in the car with me right now. We're going to work together and he's a super producer and artist in the DMV area. Can you have people follow him?
Charlamagne Tha God
What's his name and what's his Instagram or whatever you want him to follow are his Tic Tac.
Caller
Thank you. It's his Instagram is Mezzy. S G M E E Z Y.
Charlamagne Tha God
S G. That is incredible to hear a mom supporting their child's music.
Caller
I love my babies. They take such good care of me.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's right. Are you also encouraging him to learn a trade just in case?
Caller
Oh, yeah. He just finished school for software development.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's what I'm talking about. Okay.
Caller
Oh, yeah. We got it all covered.
Charlamagne Tha God
Question. Is the National Guard still in dc?
Caller
Yes, they are.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Caller
I work downtown, right up the street from the White House, and it's pretty terrible. Charlemagne.
Charlamagne Tha God
What is terrible that the National Guard is still out there?
Caller
No, I'm a federal employee. And just the things that are going on are pretty terrible.
Charlamagne Tha God
Absolutely. Well, I'm glad that you still have a job, because Doge could have probably clipped you earlier this year. So the fact that you're a federal employee who still has a job, congratulations.
Caller
Absolutely. Thank you.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right. Thank you for calling.
Caller
Thank you. Bye bye.
Charlamagne Tha God
Get it off your chest. Call us right now. 1-800-585-1051. You can tell us why you're blessed, or you can tell us, you know, what's. What's bothering you this morning. It's the world's most dangerous morning show. The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed.
DJ Envy
800-585-1051.
Charlamagne Tha God
We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Get it off your chest. Who's this?
Caller
Hi, this is Michelle from out corner.
Charlamagne Tha God
Hey, Michelle. Calling from the crib. What's happening? Eight, four, three, all day.
Caller
Yes. This is your neighbor, Charlemagne. Michelle.
Charlamagne Tha God
What's happening? Michelle. Oh, Michelle. How are you, Michelle?
Lauren LaRosa
Oh, this. I get real. I'm good.
Charlamagne Tha God
How Eric doing?
Caller
He doing good? He's doing good. I've been trying for like a year to get through to talk to you.
Charlamagne Tha God
What you mean? I done probably passed your house like four or five times going to see Mama.
Caller
Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah.
Caller
I just wanted to shout out my business if I could.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, go ahead. Ahead.
Caller
I'm an artist, a local artist in Charleston, trying to, you know, go to other places. My Instagram is lawanda's Creations. I'm at the Miller Gallery, downtown Charleston, and I'm getting ready to participate in the Global Art Fair in North Carolina next month.
Charlamagne Tha God
Wow. Congratulations.
Caller
I'm excited.
Charlamagne Tha God
Absolutely. I want to see some of your pieces, Michelle.
Caller
Yes. Go to my Instagram page. It's all on my Instagram page. If anybody wants to follow me, you can follow me on Instagram and Facebook with lawanda's creation.
Charlamagne Tha God
Lawanda's creation. I'm following you right now.
Caller
Yes. Thank you. Thank you. We all proud of you, Charlamagne.
Charlamagne Tha God
Thank you, Michelle. I appreciate you.
Caller
All right. You take care.
Charlamagne Tha God
Absolutely. Peace. Get it off your chest. Who's this?
Caller
Good morning, Breakfast Club. This is Nicole Wallace calling from the St. Louis metro area. Today is a very special day. It is my sister's birthday. Her name is Katie Odie. I want to give her a huge shout out for her birthday.
Charlamagne Tha God
Good morning, Katie Odie. Wasn't it? Katie Ot.
Caller
Yes, Katie Odie.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Caller
And I'm hoping, hoping that the Breakfast Club family can take a moment to bless my sister on her special day by going to her website, Phoenix Media and Books, and grabbing a copy of her book. Izzy's Almost Epic Day.
Charlamagne Tha God
Izzy's Almost Epic Day.
Caller
Yes. Charlemagne. We sent you a copy of her book. Can you please, please read it?
Charlamagne Tha God
I will.
Caller
And let us know what you thought.
Charlamagne Tha God
Absolutely. When I get it out, I will definitely read it. Izzy's Most Epic Day.
Caller
Yes. Izzy's Almost Epic Day. We sent it to you last November, so we're. It's coming up on here. So I'm hoping that it's somewhere.
Charlamagne Tha God
If I ain't seen.
Lauren LaRosa
You might not be sending that again.
Charlamagne Tha God
If I ain't seen the chat, you might have to send that again. You know what? I'll order it. It's on Amazon. Is it on Amazon?
Caller
Yes. Or you can go to her website, please.
Charlamagne Tha God
What's the website?
Caller
It's Phoenix Media and Books.
Charlamagne Tha God
Phoenix Media and Books. All right, I'm. Order a copy, please. I will. Okay. Thank you for calling.
Caller
Okay. Thank you. Thank you, guys.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right, we do. Oh, I'm on it right now. Phoenix Media and Books. Yes. Okay. We do that every morning. Get it off your chest. 1-800-585-1051. You can call up and tell us why you're blessed. You can call up and tell us why you're stressed. But Lauren LaRosa, you got the ladies coming up.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes, I do. Cardi B's Mi the drama. You know, she just left from up here in a day already.
Charlamagne Tha God
Platinum dropping a clues bombs for big Body.
Lauren LaRosa
Damn it. The industry is in a tizzy right now over that. And we're gonna talk all about why.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay, we'll talk about it when we come back. It's the world's most dangerous morning show. The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. It's the world's most dangerous morning show. The Breakfast Club. Charlamagne the God, DJ envy. Just hilarious. Oh, it's Monday. We just got back from Vegas last night. I landed at like 10 something and something tonight. What time you landed Lauren at?
Lauren LaRosa
Like, I got it early. Like 9, 9:30.
Charlamagne Tha God
Like 9, 9:30.
Lauren LaRosa
Took you about two hours to get home.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, but at least we're here.
Lauren LaRosa
Exactly. We're alive and awake. Awoke awake this morning. What am I here?
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, salute to NB and just they. They on vacation, but you know, I'm talking about the rest of the production team. Why y' all not here? Okay, we were in Vegas too, and we landed late. Why y' all not here? Why y' all get to stay home?
Lauren LaRosa
But we got some people are working remotely.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, please. I can't tell. It's the latest time for the Latest with Lauren.
Bobby Brown
Lauren becoming a straight fan.
Charlamagne Tha God
She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. She gets the details.
Lauren LaRosa
I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.
Charlamagne Tha God
She'll be having the latest on this, the Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts. Sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit of everything. Well, it's the latest on the Breakfast Club. Talk to me.
Lauren LaRosa
So shout out to Cardi B. So am I. The drama dropped on Friday, September 19, and in that same day, the RI IAA, which is the Recording Industry association of America, certified the album as platinum within that day. So within the first 24 hours that the album came out, we're dropping a.
Charlamagne Tha God
Clues bomb for body. I'm sure people mad. What are they mad about?
Lauren LaRosa
Oh, yes, people are pissed off because so the. The. The. The album is 23 songs. But on that album, remember, she added up and wop. Yes. The song would make the stallion to the album because those songs themselves are so big. People, you know, of course, that takes her to the platinum status. So people were having the conversation about, okay, if those two songs were not added, would she be platinum within the first day? And she broke records for that. I saw one record say that, like, she was, like, one of the fastest, you know, albums to do so or female albums to do so. But the reason why people are pointing out those two songs is because WAP by itself was five times platinum, and then. I'm sorry, it was nine times platinum, and then up itself was five times platinum. So people just feel like it's unfair for her to be able to do so. But let me tell y' all something right here.
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, it can't be unfair if it's the rules of engagement. If you can act, if you can do that, then it's not unfair.
Lauren LaRosa
I. This is the thing, I think when it comes to artists, it really is crazy to watch because at the same time that all this is happening and Cardi B. Is doing so well with this album in the rollout, and people are upset about certain things. She's also feeling so much love, too. I watched in real time how when you just. Where you are, people just. You have to be the conversation. So you people need something to talk about. So people are going to be upset, but it's because she's doing so well.
Charlamagne Tha God
Because even that comes with the territory.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes.
Charlamagne Tha God
Like, I was always taught about the rule of 10, right? The rule of 10. Three people gonna like it. Three people not gonna like it. Four people don't even know what the hell's going on?
Lauren LaRosa
Well, I mean, I will say there were more people I saw liking it than not. And surprisingly enough, there was, like, music on the album because when she was here, you know, she was.
Charlamagne Tha God
Surprisingly enough, there was music on that.
Lauren LaRosa
No, surprisingly enough, there was music on the al that, like, this is that we didn't catch. Like, I didn't catch the line that was going to. Jt.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, you just got to finish your sentence.
Lauren LaRosa
You didn't let me.
Charlamagne Tha God
You said, surprisingly, it has music on the album. It's an album.
Lauren LaRosa
Listen, we got home late. It's early. You didn't let me know. So I'm saying that there was things in the album that once I went back and listened again once it was released, I didn't catch. But, yeah, there's been a lot of conversation about that. But Cardi got really emotional. She's been live and, you know how she does the spaces and, you know, different things on her own. She's got really emotional about some of the success that she's seen. Let's take a listen to Cardi getting emotional. What I'm most grateful about is how good people are receiving my music. Like, I have seen so many beautiful compliments, and that means so much to me coming from you guys, because, like, I put a lot of work in this. In this album, and I've had, like, a lot of feelings doing this album. So for you guys to be saying all these beautiful things about my album, like, it's getting to the point that I don't even know which. Which song I should do a music video to next, because you guys have been receiving it so well, and that means so much to me, and I want to say thank you so much.
Mimi Brown
The numbers are doing amazing. What is expected for the numbers to.
Lauren LaRosa
Do good, because it's such an anticipated album, but for people to say so many beautiful things about my art, like, that means a lot, and I'm super grateful. So many beautiful people saying so many beautiful things about my music. I just want to say thank you guys so much. Like, it really, really means a lot.
Charlamagne Tha God
Dropping the clues bombs of body. That's what I was seeing. I was seeing people giving it a lot of great feedback.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes, a hundred percent. Now, another one of the things that happened with the album, because, remember, we talked about how she had the. The Cardi B bodega on doordash, but she also used Walmart and she used a drone delivery service so that people could get her album as they were ordering it, Right? So she's doing this drone Thing with Walmart and then she breaks another record. Guinnesses Book of World Records record. And she becomes, she becomes the most delivered. Her album became the most delivered album with strategic marketing.
Charlamagne Tha God
So is there any other albums that did that? I never seen an album on Doordash before.
Lauren LaRosa
No. So they're talking through Walmart. So I think it's just a product in general because it, the title is most deliveries with strategic marketing. So a product in general. I don't think it's just an album. But there's a woman named Kylie Galloway who is a senior executive at Genesis World Records Records and she talked to TMZ and she said that the tandem of Cardi Walmart and then the wing drone delivery that Atlantic Records did earned the new title for the Most deliveries by UAV drones in one hour with 160, 176 deliveries by drones.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm just happy that Cardi's album seems like an event. Like these people just, y', all, I'm telling you, man, these artists and these labels, they just be putting out albums like it's nothing. Just drop it online and tell your followers to go pick it up. I like the fact that she had an actual rollout that she was, you know, doing, doing, doing marketing, period. It's like marketing is a lost art. Nobody does it no more.
Lauren LaRosa
Well, I will say with all the good must come some of the bad because Stefan Diggs first of all was adorable. Cardi B had like a huge event here in New York where she was celebrating the album. Stephon Diggs had these huge am I the drama roses delivered to her. He like surprised her. He comes from like behind the truck. But within the same weekend, there was a story that came out over the weekend that there is a who is alleging in court documents that Stefan Diggs is the father of her month old baby and that, you know, she wants paternity to be done. So when this story came out, because there's been rumors about does Stefan Diggs have, you know, other children that are very young or children on the way or whatever? When this story came out, of course Cardi, who just newly announced her pregnancy, got a lot of pushback online about why are you having a baby with someone who potentially has younger children and just all the different things. So Cardi decided to speak on that as well too. Let's take a listen to Cardi B on having more kids.
Mimi Brown
I love every kick, even if it hurt me.
Lauren LaRosa
Every kick, every punch, every elbow I love. And you out here just saying the.
Mimi Brown
Most weirdest, like, come on up. Why would you say, like, hope you don't die. It's kind of weird.
Lauren LaRosa
Again, I could flame and valley, but it's that I'm not even on that type of time.
Mimi Brown
I feel very, very, very blessed right now.
Lauren LaRosa
To my fans online and offline and.
Mimi Brown
Everything, y' all my kids, aunts and uncles.
Lauren LaRosa
So y' all already know what's up when it comes to these motherf ers. Y' all have another one, too. Whoopty do. If I have 10 kids, whoopty do, that's her business. Yes, she's absolutely right. Now, in the response that Stephan Diggs filed in response to the filing, which happened in mid July, he stated that he wasn't sure if he's a parent of little girl. The little girl was born in April, but they were both requested him and the woman to take genetic testing to officially make the determination, even though it's not. Not clear yet if they've taken these tests. But of course, you know, Cardi was getting some of the backlash from that. But she said she is so happy right now. She is okay with her decisions and where she is in her life. So that's all she can do. And in true Cardi fashion.
Charlamagne Tha God
And what is she supposed to do at this point, though?
Lauren LaRosa
That's what I was thinking.
Charlamagne Tha God
She's pregnant. She's. She's accepted she's pregnant. She wants to have more kids. What is she supposed to do?
Lauren LaRosa
I also think too. I mean, I get it. She had a baby last year. Now she's moved on and she's having another baby. So, you know, you knew that was going to come and we talked a bit about that with her when she was up here and. But I'm not gonna hold y' all at this point. There is nothing she can do but have the baby and be in love and be happy and hope it works out for the best. That's all you can do. Even if they were married and having a kid, you just never know what can happen.
Charlamagne Tha God
And I would say, why do y' all care? But the reality is y' all care because she's Cardi B.
Lauren LaRosa
She's.
Charlamagne Tha God
And when somebody's life is public, then, you know, people feel like they have the right to speak on that person's life.
Lauren LaRosa
Very much so. But you know, Cardi gonna do what Cardi gonna do. She was cooking on her. Her Instagram Live. You saw the video of her cooking. Cooking. No. Let's take a listen to Cardi B. On Steph Von Diggs News. The number one but she's cooking. Well, what now?
Mimi Brown
We'll figure it out.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, so she cooking, she making food, she listening to one of her songs, and she's like, look at this point, baby. Hello, Shirley. Like, what? What is she supposed to do?
Charlamagne Tha God
That's your baby daddy. That's my baby daddy, too. We gonna figure it out. Why? Come on, man. It's Monday, man. I just got there.
Lauren LaRosa
Wake up.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay, that's her business.
Lauren LaRosa
I don't know. That's something about my man, honey.
Charlamagne Tha God
Huh?
Lauren LaRosa
We all in here together. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Gotta get out.
Charlamagne Tha God
What you say?
Lauren LaRosa
Nothing. If I was cardi, I'm coming that same way.
Charlamagne Tha God
Your man got multiple women.
Lauren LaRosa
That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is. No, I'm saying if I was cardi. Coming the same way. If it's my man, it's my man. Like, what I'm gonna do.
Charlamagne Tha God
She ain't say, that's her man, though. She said, that's our baby daddy.
Lauren LaRosa
That is her. We know that's her man.
Charlamagne Tha God
No, no. She said, that's your baby daddy. That's my baby.
Lauren LaRosa
She being funny, but you know that's her. That girl is in love.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay?
Lauren LaRosa
She ain't letting.
Charlamagne Tha God
You don't know that.
Lauren LaRosa
Okay? Let's get out of here. What are you talking about? Yes, we do.
Charlamagne Tha God
You know.
Lauren LaRosa
Is that her man?
Charlamagne Tha God
Now, she said that's her baby daddy. I'm just going off words. She said, that's her baby. That's my baby daddy. That's your baby daddy.
Lauren LaRosa
Your wife don't call you baby daddy.
Charlamagne Tha God
But we're married. That's my actual wife.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes, but I'm saying it's a joke.
Charlamagne Tha God
You're trying to deflect from the fact that you said that your man got multiple women. That's exactly what you just said.
Lauren LaRosa
Oh, my God.
Charlamagne Tha God
You got multiple dudes, so it's cool. Cool. Listen, we'll be back with Mimi Brown. It's the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club. Yes, it's the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club. Charlemagne the God, DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Envy and Jess are off today. LL Cool Bay is here. Lauren LaRosa. And it's time for Front Page News with Mimi Brown. First off, I want to salute nothing in the NFL because the Cowboys got washed yesterday, so I could care less. But I do want to salute South Carolina's own Asia Wilson. She was named WNBA MVP yesterday for a record fourth time. You see me in here with my Asia Wilson. Hoodie on this morning. Okay. Salute to big Asia. Nobody has won MVP four times in the WNBA ever. So she's the first. So dropping a clues bonds for Asia Wilson. Now Mimi, what we got for front page news this morning. All right.
Mimi Brown
Well good morning Charlamagne and Lauren. We're still talking about Jimmy Kimble. And Disney is facing a wave of backlash this morning after ABC is pulled Jimmy Kimmel live indefinitely over comments he made about conservative activist Charlie Kirk. Now subscribers, they began canceling Disney plus and Hulu in large numbers. So much so that the the website it crashed repeatedly over the weekend. That ABC pulled kibble show after pressure from affiliates like Sinclair and nexstar and a warning from SEC chair Brendan Carr who said the late night host crossed a path with insensitive comments about coronavirus Kirk's death.
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Mimi Brown
It's Morgan Wood from the Black Information Network urging you to consider your source. Does your opinion come from truth or what you're being fed? Imagine being a black student activist in America with Israeli and Arab heritage. That's Tamer Masoudin. He's being told his reality is a lie, but he tirelessly shows up and speaks out in the unending fight against propaganda that attempts to erase him and his story. Don't allow it to close your mind. Follow Ima Sudin on Instagram because truth matters. Claire went even further, demanding that Kimmel apologize to Kirk's family and donate to Turning Point USA before the show could return. Now, ABC also said that Sinclair's 55 minute tribute to Kirk would run in Kimball's place. But on Friday night, when it came time to air, it seems that the network made a different decision. Instead, viewers saw a rerun of celebrity Family Feud while the Kirk special aired on YouTube. But now Carr may be setting his sights beyond late night tv. In an interview on conservative commentators Scott Jennings podcast, the FCC chair questioned whether ABC's daytime talk show the View still qualifies as, quote, a bona fide news program. Let's listen to that.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'd assume you can make the argument that the View is a bona fide news show, but I'm not so sure about that.
Caller
And I think it's worthwhile to have the FCC look into whether the View.
Charlamagne Tha God
And some of these other Programs that.
Caller
You have still qualify as bonafide news programs and therefore exempt from the equal.
Charlamagne Tha God
Opportunity regime that Congress has put in place. You know, it's so interesting, right, because I know folks keep talking about the FCC and this is an attack on free speech. At some point we have to acknowledge this is simply Donald Trump's hit list. You know what I'm saying? Like months ago Donald Trump was saying he wanted the Stephen Colbert's and the Jimmy Kimmels off the air. Months ago he was saying he wanted the View off the air. I think over the summer he, you know, the White House, you know, warned the View about being pulled off the air after Joy Behar made some comments about Trump. I think she called Trump a loser or something like that. So we gotta acknowledge at some point, I understand the whole free speech conversation, but this is actually just Donald Trump's hit list.
Mimi Brown
And you're absolutely right, he tweeted over or he posted on Truth Social that of course applauding ABC suspension and now calling for NBC to now drop Jimmy Fallon and Seth Meyers. So you're absolutely, absolutely right. It whoever he doesn't like, he's literally going after. So, but, but with that said, all of this Reddit is rhetoric is growing increasingly dangerous. Over the weekend, an ABC station in Sacramento, California was shot at. Video shows three bullets fired through the lobby glass. Investigators have arrested a 64 year old man in connection with that shooting, though they say the motive is still unclear. But the incident came just one day after protesters gathered outside that same ABC station to oppose the network suspension over the Jimmy Kimmel show.
Charlamagne Tha God
So was he shooting at protesters or shooting at the station?
Mimi Brown
They were, they were shooting at the station a day after the protests.
Charlamagne Tha God
So you know Jimmy Kimmel that much.
Lauren LaRosa
I think people just feel like their constitutional rights is being like, you know how them people are about the Constitution. But do you, you ever thought that you would get to this point in like seeing really. This is scary as heck to me.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes I do.
Lauren LaRosa
I'm so scared.
Charlamagne Tha God
And one thing that, but, but I'm gonna tell you why it's always, it's gonna always be a backlash. Americans title to freedom. Americans don't know anything else. Okay? This ain't a black thing, this ain't a white thing, this ain't a gay thing. If you are an American person, you are entitled to freedom. And if Americans feel like their freedoms are being taken away, they're going to revolt in some way, shape or form. And it ain't. And by the way, it's Going to be the white Americans. Let's be clear on that. Them same Americans that storm Capitol Hill are going to be the same ones that flip when they feel like their freedoms are really being stripped off it.
Mimi Brown
Well, I like to see how Americans feel after this story because after months of back and forth over whether TikTok would be banned in the U.S. the White House says the app will stay, but there's going to be a major change. So while TikTok may remain, the algorithm that drives the for you page will now be controlled by the United States instead of China, which could mean what you see on the app will look very, very different. So over the weekend, White House White House Press secretary Caroline Levitt, she explained more about what this deal will look like. Let's listen to this.
Charlamagne Tha God
That.
Lauren LaRosa
But this deal does put America's first.
Mimi Brown
And let me just be very clear.
Lauren LaRosa
This deal means that TikTok will be.
Mimi Brown
Majority owned by Americans in the United States.
Lauren LaRosa
There will be seven seats on the board that controls the app in the.
Mimi Brown
United States, and six of those seats will be Americans.
Lauren LaRosa
And the data and privacy will be.
Mimi Brown
Led by one of America's greatest tech companies, Oracle. And the algorithm will also be controlled.
Lauren LaRosa
By America as well.
Mimi Brown
So all of those details have already been agreed upon. Now we just need this deal to be signed.
Lauren LaRosa
And that will be happening, I anticipate, in the coming days.
Charlamagne Tha God
Damn. So Oracle got what, Scott? They got Paramount. Now they got Tick Tock. I heard they're about to get Warner Brothers.
Lauren LaRosa
You know what?
Charlamagne Tha God
That's.
Lauren LaRosa
You know what? You knew that was happening, though. Like, you knew that this whole conglomerate of, like, you control the media, you control everything.
Charlamagne Tha God
I did, but I didn't know that they was gonna have Tick Tock and be trying to get Warner Brothers.
Lauren LaRosa
They need social. You need social media.
Charlamagne Tha God
But no, this is Larry Ellison. This is Oracle. This is the people. That is the people that just bought Paramount.
Lauren LaRosa
But I thought that, that, I thought that people were connecting that with the Trump administration at some point, too.
Charlamagne Tha God
I have no idea.
Mimi Brown
Yeah, well, we're also learning that the Fox Corps, led by the Murdoch family, you know, they own Fox News, Wall Street Journal. They will also have a role in this deal. Supporters say this addresses, of course, the national security concerns, but critics warn it will open the door to something out political and corporate interests shaping now what Americans see. And while the deal does keep TikTok online, just like what you guys are saying, there are just more questions than answers, like who will be those six Americans who sit on the board and how much power will Oracle have? Like you were just saying, he Larry Elson is the co founder but he's also a Trump ally. He's going to have control over your feed, your data, your privacy, you know, what will that look like now? Now as Tick Tock now kind of goes, government control goes, goes, you know, privately backed by the United States. So we'll see. And then one other note is that reports say that once this deal is complete, you'll need to delete the old version and download the new version.
Charlamagne Tha God
So I'm so glad I never been on TikTok.
Lauren LaRosa
Ain't even start the first one.
Charlamagne Tha God
I ain't start the first one.
Lauren LaRosa
All we were trying to do on Tick Tock was get ready with me and dance a little bit. Now it's all of that is yeah, yeah.
Mimi Brown
I wonder what this will mean for creators though and what they'll, what they're going to do because some of their, their content may be suppressed. But we'll see, we'll see what happens.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's right.
Mimi Brown
That is your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me on social at Mimi Brown tv And for more news coverage follow Black Information network and Download the free iHeartRadio app and visit bin news dot com.
Charlamagne Tha God
Thank you, Mimi. We see you tomorrow. Now, Lauren. Oh no. What we got coming up? Oh, coming up. Bobby Brown. Okay. Founder of two major cosmetic companies. I guarantee you that you, you got some Bobby Brown cosmetics somewhere. But you know she doesn't do Bobby Brown anymore. Now she has Jones Road. But she's not here to talk about any of that. She's here to talk about her new book Still Bobby. A master class in leading an authentic life. So we'll be talking to Bobby Brown when we come back. It's the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. Morning everybody.
DJ Envy
Is DJ Envy. Just hilarious show Charlamagne the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lauren LaRosa is here as well and we got a special guest in the building.
Charlamagne Tha God
The legend, Bobby Brown.
Bobby Brown
Which one?
Charlamagne Tha God
Now I gotta tell you which one.
DJ Envy
This is not new edition Boston.
Charlamagne Tha God
My prerogative. Bobby Brown.
DJ Envy
This is Bobby Brown, makeup artist, entrepreneur, owner of Bobby Brown Cosmetics and more. She has a new book out right now called Spill Bobby.
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, hold on now. Bobby Brown cosmetics was the old brand.
Bobby Brown
Oh yeah, that was old brand. That was the first one. Jones Road is the new one.
Lauren LaRosa
I love that you have Jones wrote. I'm just let you know right now. I hope this does not offend you. I thought you were black.
Charlamagne Tha God
I ain't gonna lie to you.
Lauren LaRosa
Because, girl, Bobby Brown line, honey, is so good for my skin. Our skin. You know what I'm saying?
Bobby Brown
Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
And usually, you know, you know, we only. We're the only ones who know our.
Bobby Brown
Skin, but it's like, Baby, Ms. Bobby, I'm. You know, my background is I'm a makeup artist. I spent my life doing makeup, and I had this crazy idea that you should put a foundation on that's the exact color of your skin.
Lauren LaRosa
The skin stick, the corrector man, everything.
Bobby Brown
The foundation with the sunscreen, the spf.
Charlamagne Tha God
Thank you.
Bobby Brown
Yeah. Jones Road is even better. Okay. Jones Road is even better. But, you know, I've done so many, so many different makeup, so many celebrities, so many women, and, you know, it took a while to kind of teach women that you just want to look good, you want to look like yourself. I mean, I used to do Whitney Houston's makeup. She did not like the makeup to look natural. She wanted a lighter foundation.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Bobby Brown
And I used to fight. I'm like, you can't. It's gotta match your skin. Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
Especially under them lights.
Charlamagne Tha God
So thank you. Welcome.
DJ Envy
How are you doing?
Bobby Brown
I'm great. I'm great.
Charlamagne Tha God
I want people to buy the book still, Bobby, but I do want you to give them a little bit of your history. Like, you started as a makeup artist. How does a makeup artist go from that to creating her first billion dollar brand, Bobby Brown?
Bobby Brown
Well, I was a makeup artist that when I started in the 80s, it was all really artificial makeup and just really not attractive. And I started doing makeup a different way, but the makeup on the market sucks. It was not good. I used to have to fix everything. And one day I met a chemist, and I said, hey, I always wanted to make this lipstick. And he's like, I can make it for you. So we made it. And I said, how? I bet I could sell this, you know? And I then I thought about 10 colors, and I made it and I started selling out of my house. You know, when I had my first baby in my hometown of Montclair, New Jersey, and I would be going into the city to do fashion and Vogue and all that stuff, and then it just kind of grew from there. And one day I met someone and I talked to everybody because I think most people are nice and interesting. And I said, what do you do? She said, I'm a cosmetic cosmetics buyer at Bergdorf Goodman. I'm like, oh, I have this line of makeup I'm working on. And I got into Bergdorf Goodman, didn't shop there at the time.
Charlamagne Tha God
Wow.
Bobby Brown
But I sold the makeup there.
Charlamagne Tha God
And the rest is history.
Bobby Brown
And the rest is history. And then we sold the company to Estee Lauder after four and a half years.
Charlamagne Tha God
Now see, I don't want to give too much away, but just break down the details of that situation. I didn't even know that.
Bobby Brown
Yeah. After four and a half years, we sold to Estee Lauder. I stayed as a corporate employee 22 years. You could read the book, you could text me afterwards and ask me other questions that are not in the book. So that was the first brand. And then while I was, I think the only reason I was able to stay in corporate America because I am the least corporate person you have ever met. I don't break the rules. I just make up my own is I used to do all these cool things on the side. I was an introvert entrepreneur, you know, so I did a lot of different projects and you know, became a. An Elvis Duran. I became the beauty editor of Elvis Duran and Salute to Elvis. Yep. And you know, by the way, that's how I met Charlemagne. I was lucky enough to sit next to him at a wedding. Elvis's wedding.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah.
Bobby Brown
Which I guess is like six years. I think he just celebrated.
Charlamagne Tha God
I think so.
Bobby Brown
Something like that. And you know, and I just liked this guy and I'm like, let's have dinner. And he's like, all right, great. And we made dinner plans and the rest is history.
Charlamagne Tha God
You had a few of those?
Bobby Brown
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Since then.
DJ Envy
What foundation does Charlamagne use?
Bobby Brown
Well, he's got such beautiful skin. He doesn't wear any. That's his secret.
Lauren LaRosa
The best of us don't.
Charlamagne Tha God
But you.
Lauren LaRosa
What would be the shade back then? Did you know him before that?
Bobby Brown
I did not.
Lauren LaRosa
Okay. I did not.
Bobby Brown
I did not. I did not.
Charlamagne Tha God
But I love that you had a non compete for 25 years.
Bobby Brown
25 years. And so when we sold the company, I was 34. And when my husband said we got this non compete, I mean I always got Ds in math that I'm very proud of. To be successful, you know, and not be good in school I think is something to consider. But I counted on my fingers, I said, well, I'll be in my 60s. I'm not going to want to work when I'm in my 60s. Fast forward. I'm 68 right now. So I started this company.
Charlamagne Tha God
You look really good.
DJ Envy
I'm sorry, I didn't have like that.
Charlamagne Tha God
Damn.
Bobby Brown
You know why? Because I don't shoot anything in my face. Face.
Lauren LaRosa
Okay.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm shocked.
Bobby Brown
You look really, really honestly. It's the truth, I think, but, but I'm also into health and wellness and fitness and, you know, so let me.
DJ Envy
Ask you about that because it seems like that's the new trend now. If you watch any show on television is all about lip fillers and fillers and Botox and this tox and that tox and detox and red tox. What do you think about some of this?
Bobby Brown
I don't like it. I don't like, I don't like any of it. I don't, I don't feel it looks natural. I don't think it looks good. And I think, you know, the important thing is, is how you feel and your lifestyle choices. I mean, I like to have fun like everyone, but I know how to balance and I know what to do to make me feel better. And when I look bad, I don't run to the doctor to say, fix me up. I look at myself in the mirror and say, what have you been doing that's not working? And change it.
Charlamagne Tha God
Wow.
Lauren LaRosa
So how do you implement.
Charlamagne Tha God
Hold on, you cut her off? She was a grown woman. And you launched another brand.
Bobby Brown
Oh, yeah, I launched another brand. When the day my non compete was out and which was literally a week before the presidential election. You remember that time in the middle of the pandemic, I just flicked the light up and did three things and we launched the brand, didn't know what was gonna happen. And this, we're celebrating five years.
Charlamagne Tha God
Wow.
Bobby Brown
Amazing. It's. Yeah, it's been amazing.
Charlamagne Tha God
Now Jones Road is a billion dollar brand. Now Estee Lauderda's like, I gotta buy.
DJ Envy
This one now too, right? No.
Bobby Brown
We'Re not for sale.
Lauren LaRosa
Like, business wise, like, what are your go to? Like, here's what I always rule of thumbs in business because you make it just seem so effortless. Like, oh, I met a woman at Bertolf Goodman and boom, we're in the store.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, it's not effortless. That's why you gotta read it.
Lauren LaRosa
I mean, I know it's not, but. And not giving away too much from the book, but like, what are those things that you, you kept very near and dear to your chest at?
Bobby Brown
Honestly. Honestly. I like, it's common sense. It's just doing things the way you do things. And it's doing things the way, you know, my parents taught me, you know, my grandparents. Like, I grew up with this loving family, complicated, but loving. And, but they were, you know, everyone worked really hard. Everyone worked really hard. Everyone had to be nice, you had to be nice. You just. There was no excuse not to be nice. And you had a. You know, be a little creative with your thinking. And when things didn't work, you're like, all right, that didn't work. Let me do something else. That's how I lead business is like, the same way I would lead my life. And I'm like, right to the point. Like, I don't. I don't mess around. I don't like when people are, like, talking about what they should do and how and strategizing. I've already done it. Yeah, I've already done it.
DJ Envy
Now, how do you work with. I know your son is the CEO of your new company. A lot of people say, you know what? I don't want my family part of the companies, because family usually mess things up. You can't talk to family. But you took a different route, so break that down a little bit.
Bobby Brown
I didn't not choose to work with my family, and my husband and I have always done everything with my husband. But our kids were not interested. Three boys. None of them were interested in beauty or business, really. And it just kind of happened. Our second son, Cody, who I named Dakota, which I thought was the coolest name, but he's Cody. He came to work with us on some growth things. He knows a lot about digital marketing. He's. He's. Now people meet us and they're like, oh, my God, your son is the. You know, is the guy. I'm like, yeah, I'm so proud of that. But so he started helping, and we had a C, a coo. We had a president. One by one, Cody started doing their jobs. And so it's like. It seems like the more we get rid of people, the better our team is. It's about having, like, your community, your posse, and putting your heads together and figuring out what to do. And he's been incredible. I mean, he's just been incredible. And it's not the easiest thing working with the family, I'm sure. On top of that, my head of brand is his wife, which is amazing. And she's a very beautiful, tough, smart woman. And they have my two grandkids. So I've learned, you know, the most important thing in my life is not to piss them off, because I want to see those grandkids every single day.
Charlamagne Tha God
How has motherhood influenced your philosophy in business? Are our beauty.
Bobby Brown
You know, the. The greatest thing about being a woman and being a mother is we know how to multitask. If I ask my Husband or my chiropractor, any guy a question, they stop what they're doing and answer you women, you ask a question, you know, we're on the phone, we're getting our nails done, we're chopping vegetables. So it's. You know, I just think being a mom, I have figured things out, you know, how to get the kids ready for all. All the things. I mean, you tell me, how's it like, you know, having four daughters and watching your success, man, and how do you fit it all in? Well, I know how you fit it. And you have the best wife in America.
Charlamagne Tha God
Give her all the credit. I'm just here, like, she. She handles. She's the CEO of the household.
Bobby Brown
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
And she makes our lives that much easier.
Bobby Brown
And she just loves you, man. She does.
Charlamagne Tha God
You know, so if I told my daughter that last night, my 10 year old, I was like, this is the most important woman in our life, life. Then my wife goes, all right, stop gassing it up. And I'm like, who else would it be if not you? And I really feel that way.
Bobby Brown
Yeah. Yeah. It's evident. You dedicated your book to your husband. No, he is. He is the light of my life. He's amazing. And by the way, we've been married 37 years. It's not easy, guys. Nothing's easy, right? Is there anything easy in this world? Nothing's easy. I work really hard. How's the impact that. That, that journey, you know, between, you know, the. The woman you are, your professionalism, business owner, all of that? How has he impacted that journey? You know, he's. Look, I can't do anything without him because I'm the one that's like, oh, my God, how am I gonna do this? I'm only four hours sleep. I just got back and he's like, calm down, calm down. Breathe. That was what he said to me on my way out of the door this morning. He said, breathe. I don't. I didn't. That was my first.
Charlamagne Tha God
Was there anything you discovered about yourself? You know, maybe something that even surprised you in the process of writing this book, reflecting on your journey?
Bobby Brown
Actually, yes. And I suggest everyone writes a memoir at some time in their life, even if it's not to be published, because it's very cathartic. You know, it's not like being in therapy where you discuss things, but when people ask you questions and you're talking about your journey, you start to tie things together. And I realized how watching Papa Sam and his car business, who came from another country, you know, Watching my dad kind of go through different. He was a lawyer, but then he kept hating it and doing other things and then coming back to it because that's what paid the bills. I realized some of my entrepreneurial spirit is from watching all my family members.
Lauren LaRosa
The girls who are, like, starting today, where they're not doing, like, magazines because everything's digital, and they're trying to grow their brands, like physical products. What do you advise them to do? Because everybody's online with a product.
Bobby Brown
Product now, right? Well, you just, you know, I have a lot of, you know, female founder friends and male founder friends, and I help them all. And I tell them the same thing my husband tells me is breathe, first of all, and just keep doing it. You just gotta, like, how do you start? You just start and you just keep doing it. Put a post up if it didn't work. Figure out what you're gonna do next and, you know, and meet people. You know, get out there and meet people.
DJ Envy
I was gonna ask, you know, why is it so important for you to document a lot of this? This is your 10th book, like, to share a lot of knowledge. Why is that important to you?
Bobby Brown
Well, I think somehow, you know, all I wanted to do when I was a kid was be a teacher and a mother. So I'm kind of both, right? I mean, I'm a mother. I'm definitely a teacher. I like. I like to learn. I'm like. I'm, like, notorious for, like, wanting to try new things and learn new things. I like to surround myself with really smart people to teach me things. But I also like to surround myself with young people that I would like to teach certain things, you know, how you can have. And I. And I'm hoping this book is going to serve as, you know, many different things for people, but for young. For a young person to read and say, wow, you can do these things and, you know, you don't have to do everything so well. You don't have to be perfect.
DJ Envy
I want to ask, you know, there's. We see here a lot of people all the time, women and men, that's. That's trying to create their own company, right? Their own lipstick line, their own hair line, and it's very difficult, right? What would you tell that young entrepreneur that's trying to break through the doors and they're having problems? Target won't take their calls. Bloomingdale's won't take their calls. Macy's tells them no or they don't have enough stock. What do you tell that young entrepreneur.
Bobby Brown
Well, first of all, I tell everyone, try to work for someone first. Try to spend a year. And, you know, just think of it as being in school. Go work for a company that you admire. I don't care if you have to be the receptionist or social media manager. Just see how things are. And when you're ready to launch your own business, don't take and don't over invest, because then you're going to be stuck. People think it takes a lot of money and do it really slow and make sure what you're doing is different than what's on the market. And if you don't know if it's going to work, just make a couple things figure out. You know, people come to me with these big decks, and they're the most beautiful decks. I'm like, oh, this sounds amazing. Can I try the product? Well, I don't have the product. Well, how do you know it's gonna work? I mean, you know, I had this one girl with a Harvard degree come to me with this beautiful deck. I said, all right, let me try it. She was a woman of color. She wanted to make this special sunscreen that looked. She didn't even know what. Where the lab was. I'm like, how could you do all this until you actually know the product works? And you know, when you do have one that you think is great, great, put it in little containers and start giving it to all your friends. If they like it, then give it to other people. Like, just start slow. You don't need, like, people think you need it all figured out.
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, you hold on. I want to say, this is a woman who built two billion dollar brands telling y', all it is okay to have a job.
Bobby Brown
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
DJ Envy
She said, work for a year.
Charlamagne Tha God
So that's what I'm saying. But most people will be like, we have. We know a lot of entrepreneurs that be like, no, no, I don't want to have a job. You shouldn't have a boss.
Bobby Brown
Yeah. First of all, you got to learn things like arriving on time, saying hello, or if you're late, calling and saying, I'm so sorry I'm late. How do you learn those things? And you also have to figure out how you can work with other people. And so, you know, it's okay to work with people that you don't like because you have to learn how to do it. Like, all these things in life, we're learning things.
DJ Envy
I was gonna ask. With makeup, it seems like it's a. It's a difficult industry. Right. And the reason I say, that is like the red lipstick, right? Charlamagne puts it on his lips and he might have a reaction to it.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's a fantasy.
DJ Envy
Or, you know, something like that. You never know what product works with somebody's skin. How do you go around that to make sure something can work for, I guess, everybody? Or do you say, I'm looking for a particular market and I'm gonna focus for that?
Bobby Brown
You know, either one of those work, it doesn't really matter. I mean, Jones Road is a clean makeup brand, so I know people are not gonna have problems with it. You know, I also know the only people that aren't gonna like Jones Road are people that like, like artificial makeup. If you like artificial makeup and want to look like that, you're not. There's other brands for you. So I don't have to be everything for everybody. But what I, you know, what I want. It's, it's, you know, why Jones wrote, I think one of the reasons why it's successful is because it's what I believe in, which is makeup that when you put it on, you just look better and you don't know why. It's almost like magic. You're like, oh, my God, what happened? Because it looks like you. You look less tired, your skin looks more even. It looks fresh. But that's my aesthetic. It's not every makeup founders aesthetic. And my biggest warning to people that want to start their own brand is don't just go out there and do what other people are doing. It's, you got to have a point of difference or you're just gonna sit there and you're gonna invest too much money. You're gonna borrow from everyone, you know, and then you're gonna be like, well, it's.
Charlamagne Tha God
How important is people knowing Bobby Brown the person to Bobby Brown the brand?
Bobby Brown
Well, I think people get confused. They think I am still with the brand and I am not. The book tells the whole story. And yeah, it was hard. You know, I don't own my name, so I can't just, you know, slap my name on things or use it the way I want. But it's okay. You know, I've been able to. My husband and I have probably sent 20, 25 kids to college. So it's okay. I'm glad, you know, I'm at peace with it. And Jones Road, you know, just came. I found it on ways when I was given my husband direction. And I'm like, oh, that sounds like a cool name.
Charlamagne Tha God
But I feel like Bobby Brown the person is the brand now, Bobby Brown.
Bobby Brown
The person is the Jones Road brand. Yeah. It's not. I know, it's. It's complicated, right? It's complicated. But, you know, there's Calvin Klein, there's Armani, there's all, you know, Donna Karan. So it's, you know, it is the way of the world. But, you know, yeah, Bobby Brown. I mean, who knew people were brands? Yeah, but we are, apparently.
Lauren LaRosa
I was always Jones Road. The significance behind that is just. You just saw it on Waze.
Bobby Brown
Yeah. My husband said if I didn't have a name by Monday, it was a Friday, we were driving to the Hamptons and my husband always has me look at Waze and Google Maps because God forbid we're five minutes late even though we have nowhere to go. So my head was down and I saw Jones Road and I said Jones Road makeup. Instantly I thought it sounded like a British bespoke, you know, brand. And I thought, oh, that's a cool name. And I can't use Brown, I might as well use Jones. So he said, I like it. And it was available and that's how it became Jones Road.
Charlamagne Tha God
What was the most difficult memory or chapter for you to revisit while you was writing?
Bobby Brown
You know, it's really funny because I had a, you know, it's an audible book too right now, so I had a. I had to read it and I cried once and it was talking about my mother in law that I just adored her. And I just, you know, the hard part, the hard weird thing is all the people that were my family are not alive anymore.
Charlamagne Tha God
Right.
Bobby Brown
Like my original Chicago family. I mean, my dad is 90 right now and he's still there, but he's only one. You know, I lost a brother, I lost a mom, I lost my grandparents, you know, and it's like. And my 94 year old aunt Alice is still there, sharp as attack. She has a boyfriend who's 95.
Charlamagne Tha God
Wow.
Bobby Brown
And she's interviewing me on stage in Chicago when I come there at her retirement community.
Charlamagne Tha God
Wow.
Bobby Brown
That's what I'm excited about, this book tour.
Lauren LaRosa
When are you going to Chicago?
Bobby Brown
October 10th or something.
Lauren LaRosa
Got you.
Charlamagne Tha God
How did that make you look at your own mortality?
Bobby Brown
You know, look, it's weird because I know, you know, My parents were 20 and 21 when I was born. So I'm like, I'm just 20 years to go. Right. I mean, it's like, you know, I hope to live over 90, but it's like, you know, 68 guys, like, it's.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's young.
Bobby Brown
Well, keep learning hip hop.
Lauren LaRosa
It takes me years off.
Bobby Brown
Yeah, I think I'm gonna text Flo Rida to come DJ my birthday. One of my best memories of my life is hopping on stage with Flo Rida. He put his chains on me and I also hopped on stage with salt and pepper. Ooh, yeah.
DJ Envy
So you did the apple bottom jeans. You did all that?
Lauren LaRosa
I did.
Charlamagne Tha God
And then you did push it.
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Bobby Brown
No, we didn't do push it. We did get low. I got low with flow. Well, you know, my dad's name is James Brown. So when you meet my dad, you'd be like, James Brown. He's like, yeah, I feel good. How are you saying that for 90 years?
Charlamagne Tha God
James Brown.
Lauren LaRosa
About Bobby Brown, too great. Part one of your book is Know where youe're from, talking about yout family. And then you go into your nana and your papa, right? Why? Why is knowing where you from or how has that been so important in every brand you've created?
Bobby Brown
Because it's who I am. Right? It's. You know, being from Chicago has made me like a much. I think a much more, like, stable person with my feet in the ground. You know, I know Charlemagne talks about where he comes from. I just think it's important. And by the way, some people say my childhood was complicated, and I don't look at it that way. I mean, things happened and I moved around it, and I, you know, I take the good stuff and I don't blame anyone for anything. Right? I mean, my mother, there's a story in the book where she told me I was really pretty and I said, thank you. She said, but you'd be gorgeous if you had your nose fixed.
Charlamagne Tha God
Damn.
Bobby Brown
And I didn't, clearly. And I just. It didn't define me, but it did push me to help people appreciate who they are.
Lauren LaRosa
Oh, so that. That. That's what steers you away from the contour, I think.
Bobby Brown
Yeah, I think so. And, you know, every time I'd go to Asia and I would tell the women they're beautiful, they would just say, oh, no. My eyes are this. And my. And I'm like, no. And, you know, in women of color, it's like, guys, you have this beauty that we don't have. Like, appreciate it. Your skin color, your features, everything. And, you know, to my fellow friends with lips, small, you know, that match their faces. Leave those things alone. Right?
DJ Envy
People look so stupid with them. Lip fillers and lips who are.
Bobby Brown
It just. It doesn't work. Even when you. You just. Oh, I'm just gonna do a teeny bit. No, you look like a duck. You do.
Charlamagne Tha God
How do you define authenticity?
Bobby Brown
You just be yourself, be real. Just be yourself, be real. And all of a sudden, now it's a trend. Being authentic is a trend. Okay, great.
Charlamagne Tha God
Has your definition of authenticity ever shifted over time?
Bobby Brown
No, I think. I think I've gotten much more comfortable with who I am. And that's a good part about getting older. You're like, you realize, I tried on everyone else, and it didn't work.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's right. What do you hope readers take away from Still Bobby?
Bobby Brown
You know, I hope it gives them encouragement to, you know, to live their life their way and, you know, and it's not as difficult as you make it. Yeah. And just be naive. Be positive, and, you know, just work hard and keep at it and just be nice.
Charlamagne Tha God
And I know this is just the first week of the book, but now that you shared this memoir, what's next? Like, what are you excited to accomplish or create moving forward? Not even just in the beauty world, just in life.
Bobby Brown
You know, I try things. Like, I did a, you know, a series on YouTube that I can't seem to get enough eyeballs on called I Am Me, which I interview all these really cool women. You know, I don't know how to get more eyeballs on it, but that's fun. You know, it was sponsored by JP Morgan, which is cool. And. And I'm like, all right, I'll just keep trying stuff. You know, I had a podcast with iHeart. It was cool. It was fun. I don't. You know, I'm like, I don't know. Maybe I'll do something else. I don't know. Don't know.
Charlamagne Tha God
You get eyeballs on it by going on Mel Show. You go on Mel Robbins show, and you tell everybody you have to look at YouTube.
Bobby Brown
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes.
Bobby Brown
All right, well, I. I'm that's on my list. I have her and I have one other one. And then I'm good.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Bobby Brown
Yeah. And I'm good. I wanted. This was on my list, so thank you for this. And by the way, when I became times 100 this year.
Lauren LaRosa
Congratulations.
Bobby Brown
Thank you. And they said, we're gonna reach out to someone, you know, who would you like to write this thing? And they said, we need five people. And I ranked them and number one said, yes, it was Charlamagne. But so I. So there I was, walking the red carpet, you know, Bobby, look here. Bobby, look here. People didn't say, how do you feel about this award? You know what they said to me? How do you know Charlamagne? How did you get him to do this?
Lauren LaRosa
Really?
Charlamagne Tha God
No, I love Bobby. I love Bobby and I love her husband Steven. And the thing I like that you bring people together. Like, you know that dinner you had with all of these different people from all different walks of life, the master class.
Bobby Brown
And just making everybody like Salman Rushdie was at that dinner. I'm like, I'm sitting there with like Charlamagne and Salman Rushdie, you know, and Don Garber, the major League soccer czar.
Charlamagne Tha God
Amazing conversation. Everybody, you know, put their phones down and just talk. And I just think that does so much in bringing people together, man. And I think we need those kind of safe spaces in this world that we're in right now.
Lauren LaRosa
That's what your sit down conversations are like too. All those people. I'm like, I never would have even known who these people were.
Bobby Brown
People are interesting, by the way. I love people's stories. And Jones Road just launched something called Beauty stories. Because I want to share people's beauty stories. You know, think about your grandma, your mom, your aunt. Where did you learn and what things kind of stay with you.
Charlamagne Tha God
I love that.
Bobby Brown
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Still, Bobby, a master class in leading an authentic life is available everywhere. You buy books right now. That's right.
DJ Envy
So make sure you pick it up. And we appreciate you for joining us.
Bobby Brown
Absolutely.
DJ Envy
And thank you so much.
Bobby Brown
My pleasure. Thank you for having me.
DJ Envy
Bobby Brown. The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Charlamagne Tha God
And it's time for the latest with Lauren.
Lauren LaRosa
Lauren becoming a straight fat.
Charlamagne Tha God
She gets him from somebody that knows somebody.
Lauren LaRosa
That knows a little bit about everything.
Charlamagne Tha God
She be having the latest on this, the Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes we have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes she have a little bit of everything on the Breakfast Club. I just want y' all to know too. Lauren LaRosa has broke her fast. Her 30 day fast of drinking. So if you hear slurring of words and silly stuff, it's because she back on that boost.
Lauren LaRosa
First of all, I haven't even drink.
Charlamagne Tha God
You felt you just almost fell just now for no damn reason.
Lauren LaRosa
I stepped on a chair the wrong.
Charlamagne Tha God
Way to cheer me. Who steps on the chair? You're supposed to just sit in it. Who steps on it?
Lauren LaRosa
Because mine's what?
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay, continue.
Lauren LaRosa
That's okay. I am really excited because we just came back from the iHeartMusic Festival and I was rewatching some of the stream as we were getting ready for this segment and man, I had such a good time. It was my first I heart music festival. Charlamagne, you were there?
Charlamagne Tha God
I was there. I enjoyed it myself. Tell them how you embarrassed yourself in front of Mariah Carey. That was amazing.
Lauren LaRosa
We will get to it. I actually didn't get a chance to embarrass myself. I couldn't wait to do it. I love Mariah Carey. I am a lamb. So the iHeart Music Festival went down at the T Mobile arena in Las Vegas. LL Cool J performed Big extra. Plug Bailey Zimmerman, Brian Adams, Ed Sheeran, Diplo Glorilla closed out the second night. Jelly Roll took the people to church. John Fogerty Justice. Mariah Carey, as we've been talking about. Maroon 5. Adam Levine is so fine. Sammy Hagar, Tate McCrae, who I am now a huge fan of, the offspring and Tim McGraw. So those were both of the nights. Those were, you know, all the big acts, major music that went down in person.
Charlamagne Tha God
Now Charlamagne, you drop one, include bomb from Mariah Carey, by the way.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes.
Charlamagne Tha God
Let me tell you something. I know Mariah Carey name never came up in no verses that I can remember. Boy, it'll be tough to take Mariah out in the verses.
Lauren LaRosa
What? You couldn't even. Who would she go against?
Charlamagne Tha God
I have, I don't know. Mariah got some joints.
Lauren LaRosa
She would sit there so soft and just so like. Yeah, I don't know. But so when a lot of. A lot of the performances at the iHeart Music Festival, that was my reaction when Lo Cool J on stage, I was like, man, he has songs for days and days and. And decades and decades and decades. Same thing with Mariah Carey. Now you were talking about me embarrassing myself with Mariah Carey. What actually happened was we were live on stream. So the Breakfast Club does have a Twitch account. Please make sure you guys are subbed, subscribed, following us, all the things because we took you into the festival both nights. So you were backstage with us. You were in the pit, getting to watch the performances. And the second night, I dressed up, up because I wanted Mariah Carey to see that, like, you know, she inspired my outfit. It was very like, honey, you know, but let's take a listen to me listening to Mariah Carey.
Charlamagne Tha God
Honey. No.
Lauren LaRosa
Yo, Mariah Carey's about to go on stage, Eli. We gotta go see her.
Charlamagne Tha God
A few moments later.
Lauren LaRosa
Mariah, over here, girl. Hey. Hey, sis.
Charlamagne Tha God
She's performing. Performing.
Lauren LaRosa
Look at my outfit. It was very Mariah Carey ish. All I needed was a fan. Oh, my God. She didn't see me. My whole. My whole thing the second night was I need to meet Mariah Carey. We were trying to get her on stream, and Glorilla, she did not see me.
Charlamagne Tha God
First of all, for those of us who can't see your outfit, who didn't see your outfit.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes.
Charlamagne Tha God
What about your outfit with Mariah Carey?
Lauren LaRosa
It just gave, like, glitter gold fan. Don't talk to me. I'm a lamb.
Charlamagne Tha God
No, it didn't.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes, it did.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right, Mariah Carey maybe, but wasn't no Mariah Carey.
Lauren LaRosa
Well, you but spe of backstage, you got a chance to talk to a couple people. So you got a chance to talk to Ed Sheeran before he performed, and y' all had an interesting conversation about him going to space. Let's take a listen to that.
Charlamagne Tha God
You know what I heard about? I heard that you was you got an offer to perform in space. I did. You turned it down. Yeah. Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
Because they said it was like a 30% chance I might die. So I was like, I'm good.
Charlamagne Tha God
You got kids, like, if they're not going to space.
Lauren LaRosa
And that's what I mean. Yeah, no, I wouldn't mind going when it's like getting an Uber, you know.
Charlamagne Tha God
It'S like, no, I don't want to do it then either. Yeah, no, no. You really want to visit space.
Lauren LaRosa
No, when it's like, you know, like some, like, going to Antarctica now, like, it's a mission, but you can still.
DJ Envy
Do it and people do it.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
I just don't want to be, like, the 50th person to do it.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm cool on space.
Lauren LaRosa
You know what's crazy is Kai Sinat was talking to Jennifer Hudson about him trying to stream in space. He said the same thing. They kept giving him all these statistics about how he could die, and I'm.
Charlamagne Tha God
Like, I'm cool on.
Lauren LaRosa
Really?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, I'm cool.
Lauren LaRosa
I mean, I just feel like we all gotta go.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, but I don't want to rush It. There's so many places on earth I haven't been. Okay, let me explore. Let me get through this earth thing first before I start going to space.
Lauren LaRosa
Well, you talked a bit too, on our stream about Glorilla, and you know how Glorilla was the biggest. And you know, it was big because Glorilla got the close out the second night after Mariah Carey. Let's take a listen to some of Glorilla's performance from the second Boy.
Charlamagne Tha God
Glorilla was scaring the white people, wasn't she?
Lauren LaRosa
Oh, my God.
Charlamagne Tha God
Tell them what the white lady said to me.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes. I just got done with Ride Carey. I was in bliss. Big glow comes on, we're on stream, and this white lady turns to me and says, this is the most horrible way to end a festival. I was like, what's wrong? Are you tired? Has it been like a long night? And she was like, no. What is this? What is this song? What is this person? I was like, glorilla? And she was like, yes, this is horrible.
Charlamagne Tha God
And I'm like, see the Beauty of the iHeartRadio Music Festival. And this is why you should go. It really is a family affair because it covers gener generations. Right. So there's gonna be something for the father, there's gonna be something for the mother, there's gonna be something for the kids, there's gonna be something for the grandkids. So you really can take, you know, the whole family to this show very much. Right. Because it does go from, you know, the offspring to Mariah Carey to an LL Cool J.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes.
Charlamagne Tha God
To an Ed Sheeran to a Glorilla to a big extra plug. So it's something for everybody.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah. And we were talking about some of the performances as far as. So you can also discover too. I mean, these artists are huge. It's not like you're fighting them for the first time, but some people, you may be seeing them for the first time. Tate McCray, that's my first time seeing her perform live. I am. I'm locked in. I'm a Tater tot now. I'm a fan.
Charlamagne Tha God
What? What you want? You can't be everything. You can't be a Tater tot, a lamb, a Swifty. Like, no.
Lauren LaRosa
God gave me the power to be all things through him, and I will be just that. I do want to take a listen, though, before we get out of here to LL Cool J performing because you again. His performance went through the span of his career, and I just sat in silence like, this man is amazing.
Charlamagne Tha God
I always think about the young lady on this record who was the youngest young lady on this record.
Lauren LaRosa
I can look it up. Not for sure, but I will tell you one thing.
Charlamagne Tha God
And he opened, by the way. He opened up Friday night.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes. Yeah. What's Friday night? I was in the like the VIP like riser thing in the back where you have like, you know, all the people that are invited. They. They were doing it, doing it wild. Okay. They were into those lyrics shout out.
Charlamagne Tha God
To LL Cool J. Legend, man. Icon.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes, icon. You got on stage a couple times. Did you enjoy your experience? Like you got the intro, Glorilla, which was a major because you've been such a big, you know, know push for Gorilla.
Charlamagne Tha God
Who else? I introduced me and Ryan Seacrest introduced Big X to Plug. I forgot what else I did. I did a bunch of stuff backstage for Hulu. Jelly Roll. Me and Jelly Roll talk backstage. I had him on the Hulu screen. Yeah, it was a great event, man.
Lauren LaRosa
I'm telling you to talk to Diplo.
Charlamagne Tha God
Diplo. Yes. Iheartra Radio Music Festival is an event that you should absolutely take your family to. And I'm not saying that cuz I work for the company. I'm saying that because it actually is an incredible weekend.
Lauren LaRosa
I agree, agree. I agree. Make sure you guys, if you missed, you know the. Because I know that they were also streaming on Hulu as well. But if you guys missed that, please go over to the Breakfast Club's Twitch account at the Breakfast Club am. And we have both nights and I take you guys in and out of both nights. And it's such a great time from behind the scenes to on the stage.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't even know why we here right now. Nobody else here. We. I landed at 10 o' clock last night.
Lauren LaRosa
I am happy to be here.
Charlamagne Tha God
I am happy to be here.
Lauren LaRosa
All right? So stop complaining.
Charlamagne Tha God
No, I feel like complaining. Complaining. Kari, tell me. Donkeys next. Say it.
Lauren LaRosa
Donkey Today is up next. Charlotte, what you got?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, four after the hour. I'm gonna tell you why you need to mind your business. Right? No, for real. There's a man named Ishmael Tina. He should have minded his business. And you know what? We'll talk about it for after the hours. The donkey. Today it's time for Donkey of the day. So if you ever feel I need to be a donkey man, hit me with the hero. Did she get Donkey in the name? Please tell me.
Lauren LaRosa
Absolutely.
Charlamagne Tha God
I have become person of the day. The Breakfast Club dog here today for Monday, September 22 goes to a new Mexico. Man named ishmael Tina. He's 27 years old. Y N as far as I'm concerned. Okay. And he's accused of two counts of open murder in the first degree. It is some cold blooded killers out here, man. Okay? I was talking to my wife last night and I was telling her how we live in a world that for the most part is just. It's just built on trust. Trust. Like we all have to trust each other in order for us to have a civilized society. Okay, what do I mean by that? I mean everything from waking up to take public transportation. I don't care if it's a bus ride, share service, train, airplane. You have to trust whoever is driving that vehicle to get you to your destination safely. You have to trust all the passengers on those rides not going bug out. Okay? We drop our kids off at school. We have to trust the principals and trust the teachers and trust the staff to take care of our kids. Humans have to have have this trust system, okay? Humans have to trust other humans to not be crazy in order for us to have a civilized society. That's the only thing that keeps this world civilized. Insane for the most part. And we do a good job, you know, give or take. All right? Because there's way more humans doing the right thing than it is people like Ishmael Tina. Okay? There's a lot of decent men in this country of demons, but Ishmael Tina is not one of them. Okay? See, two people are dead because of Ishmael. And I know some of y' all might be saying people get shot every day B but no, they not supposed to. Okay? I know Charlie Kirk once said I think it's worth it to have a cost of unfortunately some gun deaths every single year so we can have the second amendment to protect our other God given rights. I don't all the way agree with that. Okay? Because majority of these gun deaths are just senseless. And this is just the latest example. Let's go to KRQE News 13 for the report please. Calling 911 only to end up in handcuffs himself. That's the pattern for 27 year old Ismael 10, who is most recently behind bars for the deadly shooting of two O'Reilly Auto Parts employees following a dispute over an oil filter. Court records Show Tana called 911 shortly after that Sunday shooting outside the store near Coors and Blake that killed 47 year old Richard Newman and 18 year old Jesus Valdez. Tenna told the dispatcher the two employees came after him and he Was scared for his life. Life. But when Bernalillo county deputies arrived, they determined 10 should be charged with two counts of murder. It's Monday, man. Oil filters. Oil filters. Two people shot dead because of oil filters. RIP to Richard Newman, 47, and Jesus Valdez, 18. I feel sorry for those individuals. That poor 18 year old young man. Man. Life just getting started. This might have been his first job. Now they dead. Over oil filters. Let me also take the time to say I don't care where you work, okay? I don't care what the place of employment is. I can assure you that business isn't dying for you. And you shouldn't die for said business. Okay? If that man and his father walked out of there with oil filters without paying. Call the police. Okay? Call law enforcement. There's no need to play vigilante. There's no need to go after those individuals. Individuals let them have whatever they took. Because people are crazy. I don't think y' all understand how unhealed trauma is leading people to project that pain and hurt they are feeling onto other individuals. Yes. Two people killed in New Mexico over oil filters. But trust and believe there's somebody somewhere today who will get killed for less. Why? Because of other people's underlying trauma. Okay. Ishmael should have realized a long time ago that his feelings are temporary. But prison is permanent. Especially when you charged with two counts of murder. And that is the lesson I want us all to take from this story. That's what I want y' all to understand from donkey of the day to day. Don't make permanent decisions based on temporary emotions or you will find yourself by yourself in a prison cell. Or even worse, a casket. Please give Ishmael Tina the biggest. He Ha. Oil filters is. Is beyond sad. Okay, now let's woo, cuz Lauren LaRosa was in here crying about something earlier.
Lauren LaRosa
Don't say I was crying.
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, you weren't crying, but you. But you'll be reminiscing though. You hear certain things and you get triggered.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes.
Charlamagne Tha God
And we had to cast a reasonable doubt here last week. And this conversation sparked from that. From that conversation. If you really love the person, you probably would have been more careful. You wouldn't have cheated to begin with, right?
Lauren LaRosa
You can say that about a lot of things.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's what I'm saying. Go a little further down that if she really cheated. What happened?
Lauren LaRosa
When women cheat. I got you, sis. Women do their thing is different. Just because I. I love jacks. That's why I love it too. But cheating is Cheating, man, woman, other.
Bobby Brown
Cheating is cheating.
Lauren LaRosa
Cheating. They were separated. You forgot.
Charlamagne Tha God
Where's the K?
Lauren LaRosa
They were separated.
Charlamagne Tha God
This is what I'm talking about.
Lauren LaRosa
Like, we can't do that, though. They were separated, though.
Charlamagne Tha God
Getting. You know, he was dead wrong. Now she pointing at me. Now, for everybody who watches Reasonable Doubts, you know that Jax and her husband Lewis are dealing with the aftermath of a break baby that Lewis and Tony had. And even though it's a TV show that happened to you in real life. Lauren, take a deep breath and. And. And tell the story. Don't curse and stuff like you did when the mics were off. Just. Just tell the story calmly.
Lauren LaRosa
My story or Jack, your story?
Charlamagne Tha God
We know what happened with Jackson. That's the story. Your pain is way more hilarious to me, but go ahead.
Lauren LaRosa
You are a horrible person. Okay, so somebody that I was seeing a while ago, who doesn't matter anymore. We. I moved to a different. No, they don't. We. I moved to a different state and I was like, you know what? Let's just take a break. This ain't working out. We ain't saying eye to eye.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay?
Lauren LaRosa
Blah, blah, blah. I even said, you can go ahead and see other people because let's just be honest, we're in two different states. I'm in la, you're across the country. Okay, baby. That. Let's see. Other people led to a baby, which is okay.
Charlamagne Tha God
And then you got back with the man.
Lauren LaRosa
I decided to get back with him. I'm no longer with him, though.
Charlamagne Tha God
Let's talk about accountability. Okay.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes.
Charlamagne Tha God
Now, if you and a person decide to take a break and y' all say, we're taking a break and you see other people, if that person goes out to there and gets another individual pregnant, and then you choose choice. Remember that? Choice. Choose, choice. Choose. You choose to get back with that individual. There should be nothing to complain about.
Lauren LaRosa
So my only complaint was there shouldn't be any. No, my only complaint was that there was a lot of lying that happened. Like, I. And also, I shouldn't have had to hear from some. From anybody else. But the person that I was in a relationship with for all that time.
Charlamagne Tha God
They still chose to take the person back. Even through all of that.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah. But still, things can still upset and, you know, it hurt a little bit at the time. And also, too, I feel like even though there was a break, we had had conversations about what the rules of the break were.
Charlamagne Tha God
We knew we were getting no babies.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes. We had a conversation. Nobody ends up pregnant. And no full relationships during this Break. Because the plan was to get back together, okay?
Charlamagne Tha God
But even with all of that, he went out there, he violated the rules. He had a baby. You still took him back. Lauren, you made a choice. You chose. Chose to take that individual back. How can you be mad at that man if you chose to take him back? If it was that serious, you wouldn't take them back.
Lauren LaRosa
That's not true. Women take men back for things that are very serious all the time.
Charlamagne Tha God
But you still made the choice is what I'm saying. You made a choice to get back with this person. So what is the issue? 1-800-585-1051. I ain't say I ate nothing. I'm just throwing things out.
Lauren LaRosa
What is the question? Because I'm concerned, confused.
Charlamagne Tha God
Why? What is. What is the question? I guess we're just having a discussion about break babies. Should that be a deal breaker in a relationship? Because my thing is, if people. If the women are choosing to take these men back after they have babies or vice versa, I'm sure there's situations where a man chose to take a woman back if she had a baby. If they're not have these. If they're. If y' all are choosing to take these individuals back, why is it a problem?
Lauren LaRosa
Because you still have emotions involved, and that's a. It's a whole. So don't take the person's raising. It's not that easy.
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, let's talk about it. 1-800-585-1051. What is our opinion of break babies? Huh? What is our opinion? They are break babies. Little break baby.
Lauren LaRosa
Okay.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's the Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. It's topic time. Call 800-585-1051 to join into the discussion with the Breakfast Club. Yes. It's the world's most dangerous morning show. The Breakfast Club. Charlemagne, the God, DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Envy and Jess are off today, but LL Cool Bay is here. Lauren LaRosa and reasonable doubt got us talking break babies. You know, Jackson Lewis are dealing with the aftermath of a break baby that Lewis and Tony had on Reasonable Doubt. Tony is actually suing Jackson Lewis for the baby. The baby's death.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
And that is, you know, a big event in season two. It carries into the new season of the show because the baby died, if I'm not mistaken. But we bought that up because that triggered Lauren LaRosa, because that actually happened to you. Not the baby dying and everything, but yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
No.
Charlamagne Tha God
Used to date a man, and the man. Y' all went on a break yes. And then the man got another girl pregnant.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes.
Charlamagne Tha God
And then you took the man back.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, but so what? I could still be mad. I, I have the right to still feel away about it.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm not saying that you shouldn't feel away, but I feel like.
Lauren LaRosa
Or felt.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay, way felt away. But I feel like if you and an individual chose to go on a break and you say you went off and had a baby or that guy went off and had a baby, if you choose to get back with that person, then you have to accept that.
Lauren LaRosa
If I had went off and had a baby, that man would have never even looked my way. Spoke to me again. Men. Well, let me not just say men, because women can be wrong in situations, too. But in this situation I dealt with, what I felt like was because I was the woman, it was just automatically assume that because I said, okay, let's continue to try to do this, that I didn't have feelings about the situation. That's not fair.
Charlamagne Tha God
But you shouldn't take the person back if you're going to be still upset about it. I really, truly feel that.
Lauren LaRosa
But that's like if somebody cheats, right? And, and, and you know, you've been through this. You get back with your wife and y' all figure it out and y' all work things out. There were still feelings that you, y' all had to go through and talk through. Just because she took you back don't mean it erases the slate. It don't happen like that.
Charlamagne Tha God
Absolutely. But you can't keep bringing it back up if you chose to be back with that person.
Lauren LaRosa
See, but Jax's situation, reasonable doubt is a bit different too, because not only is there, you know, the baby life.
Charlamagne Tha God
Lauren is way more entertaining than Jax.
Lauren LaRosa
Okay, don't say that about my girl Emayatzi, okay?
Charlamagne Tha God
No, I'm talking about your situation.
Lauren LaRosa
No, you just like me being in trauma. But it's fine, though, because I'm in such a better place now. One thing I learned, I'm not doing no breaks.
Charlamagne Tha God
So why it still trigger you, though?
Lauren LaRosa
It triggered me because I just remember how I felt. I remember having to find out from somebody that was other than him, my whole family finding out how embarrassing that was, having. Having to deal with the. Now you're watching him raise a kid with another person and you right there.
Charlamagne Tha God
With him because you chose to take him back. So you step mama.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, but it's still mama. Supermanshut up calling my baby. I mean, my mom, grandma and everything, but it still, it was hurt like you feel hurt still? Like, it's just like, ugh.
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, let's go to the phone and see how these break babies have impacted others. Good morning. Who's this?
Caller
Hey, it's Monique.
Charlamagne Tha God
Hey, Monique, how are you?
Lauren LaRosa
Hey, Monique.
Caller
I'm good. How are you?
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm blessed, black, and highly favored. Are you a break baby or do you know, did your man have a break baby on?
Caller
So it wasn't technically a break. So we literally were, like, dating. There wasn't like a title or anything. We were dating for, like, six months in now, mind you, we're just dating. So I don't know this yet that there's a baby. And then the bomb was dropped. I didn't find out about the baby until two weeks before she had the baby. So, like, the whole time we were dating, I didn't know there was a baby about to see being born. So, like Lauren said, it's really like. Like, the lying part of it because technically we weren't in a official relationship, but we were dating, like, as if that's what we were moving towards. But it's like you let. You lied the whole time, and then I had to find out from somebody else. You didn't even tell me. Yeah, so then that's really the part that's hard to get over is the line.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, I'm with you. I don't think your situation is the same, though. And the reason I don't think your situation is the same, because we're talking about people who are in relationship. Relationships broke up, you know, for whatever that they went on a break from each other, and then during the break, the person got somebody pregnant. Yeah, that's what happened.
Caller
But I still feel like it's a. It's a betrayal of trust, though, whether.
Mimi Brown
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Lauren LaRosa
Six months can be intense.
Charlamagne Tha God
That can't even know that man middle.
Lauren LaRosa
Name, first of all.
Charlamagne Tha God
What are you talking about, six months?
Caller
I just feel like you're dating with the intent of being in a relationship. So it's like, if you're going to lie about that, and we technically aren't even official, then what else are you.
Charlamagne Tha God
Going to lie about? I'm with you. But six months is such a temporary period. That is like, God, come on now. Like, that's the probationary period. Good morning. Who's this?
Caller
This is Taylor.
Charlamagne Tha God
Peace. Taylor, how are you?
Caller
I'm all right. How you doing, Charlie?
Charlamagne Tha God
Blessed, black, and highly favored. So talk. We talking break babies?
Caller
Break babies. I had one child, and my kid's father cheated on me and had another child, a daughter outside of our school. We decided to get back together and we had a third child together. We weren't married but I took me and his break baby and we ended up having another child. So we had four kids with this break baby and it was hard because he was done having kids after our third one but I wanted a girl. The only girl we had was the break baby. So Lauren, I think you did the right thing by moving on because now this break baby text me all the time she sends me bend your head all type of stuff.
Lauren LaRosa
Well you got kids though so you got siblings.
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Lauren LaRosa
And so y' all have to, like, that's. That's hard, too, because no matter emotionally how you feel, you got to put the kids first. But the fact you said you wanted a baby girl, and his only baby girl is the baby that he had outside, I know that hurt you. I know that hurt.
Caller
Yeah. Yeah. But I came back around Lauren. So by the time our fourth child got about 10. No, he was entering 10 of those garden, I took another break, and I had a baby. So now he raises my daughter.
Lauren LaRosa
I know that's right. Yep.
Charlamagne Tha God
Let me get this right. So you got a break baby, and he got a break baby?
Caller
Yes. My break baby's six and his break baby 17. I got sticky heads yesterday, and this morning, he's sending mine to kindergarten.
Charlamagne Tha God
But this is what I respect about both of y'. All. Y' all made a choice. Y' all took a break. Y' all ended up having other babies, and y' all made a choice to be back together. And now y' all are co parenting the way you should, because both of y' all made choices to be with each other again.
Caller
We did. And then accountability was hard because when she got about six, seven, eight, I was like, look, I want my own daughter. She was never there. The mom didn't like me. I couldn't buy her certain clothes. So, yeah, I kind of wish I would have bowed out earlier, but at the same time, it kind of worked out. But the dad still never married me. I'm still single, so.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. Damn.
Lauren LaRosa
Wait, so you.
Caller
I know.
Lauren LaRosa
Damn.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, okay.
Caller
He never married me. We've been together since 2004. Say I said our first son was born in 2006. Yep. Our oldest is turning 19 in November.
Charlamagne Tha God
He might feel at this point, I'm.
Caller
Like, we done raised break babies, and we still ain't married.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. He might feel like he can't trust you, but I. I don't know why he feel like that.
Caller
I can't trust him either.
Lauren LaRosa
Exactly.
Charlamagne Tha God
You're right. Thank you for calling.
Lauren LaRosa
It's a crazy.
Charlamagne Tha God
But you heard what she said, though. Accountability.
Lauren LaRosa
Accountability. Yes. Okay.
Charlamagne Tha God
And that's my only thing. If you choose to still be with a person after the break baby, then that's on you. You got to eat that. Reasonable Doubt, the show on Hulu, I guess y' all not watching it because a bunch of y' all deleted y' all Disney accounts. Allegedly. Okay. After, you know, they got rid of Jimmy Kimmel.
Lauren LaRosa
That's what y' all saying festival on there either. So please go watch the Breakfast Club switch.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, that is true. Reasonable Doubt got us talking about break babies because, you know, Jackson Lewis are dealing with the. The aftermath of a break baby that Lewis and Tony had. And Lauren LaRosa had a situation where, you know, she was with a guy, and they went on a break, and.
Lauren LaRosa
We will never break again. I will never like the relationship I'm in right now. We in it. We either gonna do it or we not. I'm not breaking nothing. Cause it's just, uh. No.
Charlamagne Tha God
Nope. The man went on a break, had a baby. But, Lauren, you still took him back.
Lauren LaRosa
I did.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay. My only thing is, if you are a woman and y' all go on a break and the man ends up having a baby and you take him back, then you have to eat that. You made a choice to get back with that man.
Lauren LaRosa
Listen, even after you. Cause even after I got over the anger of it.
Charlamagne Tha God
It.
Lauren LaRosa
The hurt, like, it was so bad for us for probably, like, that first year. Like, it'd be days where I didn't even speak to him. And I know that he wasn't happy in that situation. That's another thing, too, Is like, you.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's so silly to me.
Lauren LaRosa
But you can't. You. Sometimes you literally can't stop. It'll be small things. Like, I remember my first time seeing a picture of the baby. I cried for, like, three days.
Charlamagne Tha God
Damn.
Lauren LaRosa
Oh, my. It hurts.
Charlamagne Tha God
So why take the man back?
Lauren LaRosa
Because what made you feel like you.
Charlamagne Tha God
Should have taken back?
Lauren LaRosa
In the back of your mind, you're thinking, like, okay, I've invested this time in this person. I'm here, and I wanted. Like, this was the person that I thought I wanted to do all that with. Let me just not throw it away. Let me try. But that was the hardest thing I ever tried to get through. I would not suggest it for anybody.
Charlamagne Tha God
My thing is, if you're gonna take the man back, you better be the best stepmom you can be. I don't wanna hear all that complaint.
Lauren LaRosa
I praised that mom until we broke up.
Charlamagne Tha God
Good morning. Who's this?
Caller
Good morning. Good morning. This is Rhonda calling from H town.
Charlamagne Tha God
Peace, Rhonda, how are you?
Caller
I'm blessed and highly favored. How are you?
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm blessed, black, and highly favored. Now we talking break babies. Talk to me. What's your stuff?
Caller
So I feel a break baby. If you take the person back, you. You have to take it all back. You. You knew what they did. You accepted it.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's right.
Caller
Now, Lauren said that it had turns and he broke the terms. Okay, so you broke the terms and you brought a baby. So you have to be able to accept that, knowing that you might find out more. So that was a choice you made, and you have to live with that. And you can't continue to bring it back in the situation. I know it's a baby. They're going to be trying to triggers you. You have to live with that, and you have to figure that out yourself. In the same way as infidelity, if you say, okay, I forgive you, they're going to be triggered, and you have to go and figure that out yourself because you cannot continue to hold that over a person's head for years or so long because it's not right. If you say you forgive, you don't forget. But if you forgive, you have to move on. And if you can't, then let that person be.
Charlamagne Tha God
I agree wholeheartedly. If you don't like something, let it go. Go and leave it alone. Don't take that something and say, hey, we're back together, and then make life miserable for you and that person for the rest of your lives. That's ridiculous. I know. But when y' all was together, you was being miserable. Why you chose to get back with that person. Good morning. Who's this?
Caller
This is Kelly. How are you?
Charlamagne Tha God
Peace. Kelly, how are you? We talking. Oh, go ahead. I'm sorry. How are you?
Caller
I'm doing good.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm glad to hear that. We're talking break babies this morning. Tell me your story. You might be entitled to conversation.
Caller
Okay, I. I don't have a break baby story. The story I got is not for. Is not safe for radio, but with Lauren. And first I want to say Lauren And Jess, you ladies have bossed up so well, and I'm so proud of both of you. It started off a little rocky, but y' all boss lady threw it and y' all got through it. But with that being said, when you build up that type of Persona, characterist within yourself, you think that that's supposed to guide every part of your life. And even in the face of all the boundaries you set, when you guys decided to take your break, you still went against the boundaries that you set because you made a decision with your heart.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah.
Caller
And it's okay to have made a decision with your heart. We all do that as women every now and then. It doesn't make you any less of a boss lady because you made a decision with your heart. The key is, as you get older, you learn that it's two sides to a coin with women. We the boss ladies and we vulnerable. The key is not to let either side dictate more than the other and create that balance. But that comes with time, life lessons and wisdom. I'm 52, and I learned that because when I was your age, I was doing the same thing. But as I got older and I got more wisdom, I learned that either side, I can't dominate the other. I have to create that balance.
Charlamagne Tha God
Talk that talk Queen.
Lauren LaRosa
That's crazy, because me. And so in the relationship I'm in now, that's one of the conversations we had a lot this weekend because I do struggle with that often, like trying to, you know, be in control. And because in my everyday life, I'm in charge. I have to be in my relationship. I gotta learn to, like, you know, to let a man be a man. So that. That's been a very challenge. And I don't have, like, you know.
Charlamagne Tha God
But you got two guys, though, so maybe you could be a boss with one and then be vulnerable with the other.
Lauren LaRosa
Maybe you can go to.
Charlamagne Tha God
And vice versa.
Lauren LaRosa
You know what? Maybe you. Maybe you can go there.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Lauren LaRosa
I think they have a seat reserved.
Charlamagne Tha God
Cabana.
Lauren LaRosa
Go lay in the heat in the fire.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm going to tell you what I find funny. The fact that the women that call up here that got break babies actually call them break babies. Like, do you have them saved under your phone as break?
Lauren LaRosa
No, you don't do that.
Charlamagne Tha God
Imagine being called a break baby in a heated argument, at least.
Lauren LaRosa
Listen, I might not have a dad, but at least I wasn't no break baby. I was on purpose. Do you know they told my mom. My mom, yes. My mom has always told me she sought him out because she was ready to have me. Okay. What.
Charlamagne Tha God
So you weren't conceived out of love? She just went to seek somebody out?
Lauren LaRosa
It was out of passion. It was out of passion.
Charlamagne Tha God
You like a test tube baby, not a brick baby. Oh, my God.
Lauren LaRosa
She was hitting her clock. She had to get me.
Charlamagne Tha God
Damn. Do we have the latest with Lauren coming up?
Lauren LaRosa
Yes, we do. You.
Charlamagne Tha God
Jesus Christ. Why is it my fault you just told us that your mommy just had you? Because the time was running out. It was the bottom of the night.
Lauren LaRosa
I'd rather be a break baby now.
Caller
Oh, my God.
Charlamagne Tha God
You a field goal. She. She made it, though.
Lauren LaRosa
What?
Charlamagne Tha God
You a field goal at the end of the game, Lauren.
Lauren LaRosa
Coming up next in the Latest, we have LeBron James. He is finally speaking on where him and Drake stand today.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right, we'll talk about it when we come back at the Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. Yes. It's the world's most dangerous morning show. The Breakfast Club. Charlemagne. The God DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Envy and Jess are not here today, but LL Cool Bay is Lauren LaRosa. And it's time for the latest.
Lauren LaRosa
Lauren becoming a straight face.
Charlamagne Tha God
She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. Somebody. She gets the details.
Lauren LaRosa
I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything.
Charlamagne Tha God
She be having the latest on the Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes she have a little bit of everything. Who is the latest on the Breakfast Club? Talk to me.
Lauren LaRosa
LeBron sat down with Speedy for 360. With Speedy on complex and they talk about a ton of things, but they did get into Drake and LeBron's relationship at this point. Let's take a listen.
DJ Envy
Someone you have been friends.
Bobby Brown
Friends with seemingly forever.
Charlamagne Tha God
Drake, are y' all cool? What. What's the status there? Is this someone you always have love for? Always, always, always wish him the best? Obviously different places right now. Currently he's doing his thing, I'm doing mine. But as always, love for sure. And drop on the clues. Bonds for Speedy, though.
Lauren LaRosa
Be getting them, don't he?
Charlamagne Tha God
You know what I'm saying?
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
I could care less about LeBron and Drake, but I'm glad that Speedy got that. Sit down with Brian.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes. And got that question.
Charlamagne Tha God
Question off.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes. It was a great. I did. I was expecting Speedy to follow up a little bit more, get into the things. But it was an update because we've never heard LeBron speak about it. He's always just moved on as if there was nothing actually happening. So, yeah, that's not Speedy. Style, though sometimes he will. He'll. He'll jokingly do it. And by this point in the interview, him and LeBron had already joked he'd have been through. LeBron be lying. Like, you know, he's really good at making all of the talent that he sits with feel like they don't, homie. So I think he could have, in his own speedy, funny way, I think it would have worked, but only he could have done it in that, like, it would have had to be, like, funny. But he was very funny throughout the whole interview, as he always is. So I think he could have done it. But I did want to know specifically what did LeBron, if he even cared about the whole, like, tattoo removal. Like, that whole thing with Drake.
Charlamagne Tha God
Drake, like, he should have never got the tattoo to begin with. First of all, let's be clear about choices. I keep telling y' all about choices. Why y' all don't want to respect choices. Drake made the choice to go get LeBron's name or the jersey tattoo on him. Okay? That was a personal choice. They ain't got nothing to do with Brunt.
Lauren LaRosa
Well, we will never know. Oh, maybe we just don't know right now. But shout out to Speedy. But that was an update that went crazy because people just wanted to hear it. Now, in other news, speaking of things that had people going crazy this weekend, there's an AI music artist. Her name is Zenia Monet. Now, the news came out over the weekend that Zania Monet signed a multi million dollar record record deal. Now, this had a lot of artists upset, like actual music artists, human artists, Kehlani sza, Chloe Bailey, they all came out and had some things to say. Let's take a listen to Kehlani. There is an AI R B artist who just signed a multi million dollar deal and has a top five R B album and is the person is doing none of the work. I think you guys think that AI is say is can just be the COVID for something which some people can use. They can make an AI cover. AI can also make the entire song. You can have a song that's one type of song and say AI make this into a country song and it'll literally rewrite, re sing in a country voice and redo the entire thing. And they don't have to credit anyone, nothing. And no one on earth will ever be able to justify AI to me. Especially not in the creative arts in which people have worked hard for, trained for, slept on the floor for, got injuries for, worked for the their entire Lives. I'm sorry, I don't respect it.
Charlamagne Tha God
She's got a point.
Lauren LaRosa
Now, Zania Monae, this a little known fact. So she's an R B artist and she has, like a crazy amount of streams online. But here's the thing. So Monae is actually a AI powered creation of a Mississippi woman named Talisha J. Jones.
Charlamagne Tha God
And that's what I was about to ask. Who created her?
Lauren LaRosa
Yes. So Talisha Jones, who writes her own lyrics, uses the AI platform Sunno to make them into music. And this has sparked the conversation because, you know, there were a lot of. When the news broke of the meeting, even before the deal was signed, there was a lot of conversation about, you know, how do you even do that deal? Because, you know, the human is going to own certain things and the label has to come in a certain way, and there's. There's just a lot of different ways that you have to think about it gets.
Charlamagne Tha God
Talisha is like the artist. So I'm. So she's got the deal.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah. She is the one who inked the deal. And it says creators like Jones can secure intellectual property protection on the lyrics and music they write themselves. But the protection depends on the extent to which AI is used in the process and to what extent they disclose that. Like, how much do you tell what is being used? But, yeah, so people came out swinging about this. They were very upset. But I will say the music is good.
Charlamagne Tha God
I mean, if Talisha Jones is an actual artist or something herself and she actually writes herself and she decided, you know what? I want to have me an AI artist that I'm going to, you know, write music for and help coach AI to create music for. I don't know if that's a problem. If I was these artists like Kalani and everybody else, I'd be creating me an artist, too.
Lauren LaRosa
Listen, take a listen. Let's take a listen to Monet's music. Let's take a listen. Love don't sound like silence love don't feel like high I swear my heart forgot what freedom feels like I'm locked up behind these walls crying now but you don't hear me at all.
Charlamagne Tha God
You.
Lauren LaRosa
Got the key but you won't set me free and I'm losing my soul Breathe, I can't move, I'm alive.
Charlamagne Tha God
If this is where the music industry is going, right. I just wonder, like, if you create an artist who gets production and writing credits, will the creators of these AI platforms be able to say, hey, you made this on our platform. So we get a piece of. Of it. Like do we get a piece of the production? We get a piece of the, the publishing? I just, I don't know. Where does it end?
Lauren LaRosa
So based on I'm reading a billboard report and they've, they're kind of having that conversation. They say that it's a case by case basis because the, the U. S Copyright offices issued a major report that said that the use of AI Is an assistive tool for human expression, which would be fair. So it makes, you know, fair game when you're trying to claim different things. But it's case by case because I guess it depends on, on who lends what to wear.
Charlamagne Tha God
What if this, what if the AI is writing the lyrics? If the AI did the beat? Like, I'm just saying, I wonder who gets credit? Like what will the creators of these AI platforms be able to, you know, claim credit because it's their platform?
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Because even in this situation there are some legal experts that were saying that the AI her using the AI assisted tool made a little tricky because the lyrics were pinned by Jones who was the, the actual woman who writes the stuff and they're obviously hers. But her managers say that she used a combination of. Of, you know, different AI models and other live elements to create the music. So that raises key questions. How much human contrib contribution does it take to establish copyright on an entire song? I don't know man, but the music sounded good. That's what got me. I was like this actually sounds like great. It sounds like there's feeling like as.
Charlamagne Tha God
A person it's limited. It's a limited amount of money you can make off that music too though, right? Because I mean, you'll get paid off screams you'll get paid off radio play but you know, you'll never be able to tour.
Lauren LaRosa
Why not? Why you can't take a holiday hologram somewhere for real?
Charlamagne Tha God
That's not happening. First of all, think about how much money it costs to make holograms but and actually have the holograms in these venues. Because it's not like you're going to start off in arenas, not like you're going to start off in stadiums.
Lauren LaRosa
No, but if it becomes more popular and easier to do the same way. Because at one point just doing this would have been like, imagine that one.
Charlamagne Tha God
Of these, one of those AI artists would have to really, really, really blow up and be able to pack a stadium. Which is not easy to. To do by the way, AI or otherwise. Yeah, okay. In Order for that to make sense for them to be doing holograms to perform for crowds. I mean, we, we just came from Vegas. Chris Brown did Allegiant Stadium two nights in a row. Think about how long Chris Brown been grinding in order to do something like that. Literally, it's been 20 years. Yeah, like I don't know. Who knows?
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, well, artists are upset. I know Chloe Belly, I saw her say AI should be banned when it comes to creative spaces and that this made her sad, you know, because she's a singer. So hanger.
Charlamagne Tha God
I get it.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah. That's it for the latest this morning.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right, we got the People's Choice mix coming up next. I'm not even going to lie to y'.
Lauren LaRosa
All.
Charlamagne Tha God
I was about to give y' all the phone number and like NBB line, you know, MVB line be like 1-800-55-1051 call up and request the song. The mix is already pre recorded. It's the Breakfast Club. Yep. It's the world's most dangerous morning show. The Breakfast Club. Charlemagne the God, DJ Envy. Jeff. Hilarious. Envy and Jess are off, but Lauren LaRosa is here. We were at the iHeartRadio Music Festival all week weekend. Me and Lauren just got back last night. What time did you land, Lauren?
Lauren LaRosa
I got back at like 9:30, 10.
Charlamagne Tha God
I think I landed at the same time. What flight you was on?
Lauren LaRosa
No, maybe I was on a Delta flight. Maybe it was like 9. 9:30.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, I was on JetBlue. What?
Lauren LaRosa
It might have been earlier than that. I don't know. I'm so delusional from the time changes.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's how I feel too, man. But. Salute to the iHeartradio Music Festival. I've. If you've never. I'm not saying this cuz I work for the company. If you've never been to the iHeartRadio music festival, you should go at least once in your life is a family affair. It really is a generational thing because you'll have artists like, you know, the Offspring. You'll have artists like Mariah Carey, but then you'll have Glorilla. Then you'll have Ed Sheeran, LL cool J, you know, I mean, what's the Tate McCray who everybody was raving about, you know? So it really is something for everybody, man. I don't think that there's a more diverse festival that's from. From race to generation, everything more than the iHeartRadio music festival. So salute to everybody we saw out in Vegas this weekend.
Lauren LaRosa
I had a Great time in Vegas. Shout out to our. I'm going every year. That was fun.
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, maybe.
Lauren LaRosa
What?
Charlamagne Tha God
You never know around here.
Lauren LaRosa
Don't say that. I just got here.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Lauren LaRosa
All this stuff got be happening.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's why you got to enjoy the moment.
Lauren LaRosa
I enjoy every moment to the fullest and I enjoyed this weekend and it's on our stream. We work on stream on Twitch. Breakfast Club. Twitch, please go check out day one and day two. We were in there acting up a little bit. We had a good time.
Charlamagne Tha God
I will say this though. If you do what you're supposed to do and you work the way you're supposed to work, you'll be at the iHeartRadio music festival.
Lauren LaRosa
That is a goal.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, exactly like that. That's. That's exactly how you should look at it.
Lauren LaRosa
Yep.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes. It's like when you, you know, want to treat on the weekend so you eat clean all week and you work out all week. You know what I mean?
Lauren LaRosa
Got me. I thought you said you want to cheat on the weekend. I'm like charlamagne. I just got in this.
Charlamagne Tha God
You the only person fussing with two guys.
Lauren LaRosa
What is you talking.
Charlamagne Tha God
You know, I shout out that too. Glow.
Lauren LaRosa
I have been retired. That. I don't know what you talking about.
Charlamagne Tha God
I want to salute to Bobby Brown, man. Bobby Brown joined us this morning. She has a new book out. Still Bobby A Master Class in Leading an Authentic Life. So if you love Bobby Brown, you know, cosmetics or you love Jones Road cosmetics, you want to know more about the story of Bobby Brown, go pick that book up. Still Bobby, A Master Class in Leading an Authentic life. And I also want to say I want to salute to everybody who will be joining us on October 11th. You know, it is my fifth annual Mental Wealth Expo. Okay. My fifth annual Mental Wealth Expo is happening Saturday, October 11th from 11:00am to 4:00pm at the Joel and Diane Bloom Wellness and Event Center. It is in honor of World Mental Health Day. It is a day of mental health education and healing. It is a day of panic panels and breakout rooms. Some of the best mental health professionals in the country like Dr. Rita Walker, Debbie Brown, Dr. Alfie Breland Noble, Dr. J. Barnett, Elliot Connie, Corey Minor Smith, Jason Wilson is going to be there. And later this week I'll be telling you some more individuals that will be joining us. And it is a free event. Free, free, free, free, free. I wouldn't even want to do this event if it wasn't for free. So. Saturday, October 11, 11am to 4pm The Joel and Diane Bloom Wellness and events Thursday center at the New Jersey Institute of Technology in Newark, New Jersey. My fifth annual Mental Wealth Expo. Join us. You can go to mentalwealthexpo.com to register to be there. What you got, Lauren?
Lauren LaRosa
Honey, I'm trying to take the people to Delaware. You know, homecoming season is upon us. It is the best HBCU time. Homecoming season is here. So Friday, October 10th, HBCU a Delaware State alumni join me in Wilmington, Delaware at the Queen Theater for Delaware State University's Alumni Homecoming kickoff party at. I do do it every year and it is a great turnout. Tickets available@iflevents.com that is iflevents.com you don't gotta be Delaware State alumni to come and party with the best HBCU on the planet.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's the only way. People going to Delaware State if they alumni. Ain't nobody making the trip to Delaware.
Lauren LaRosa
The people be pulling up. They be fascinating.
Charlamagne Tha God
Who they playing? Who they playing?
Lauren LaRosa
I'll tell you in a second.
Charlamagne Tha God
You don't even know that's what I'm talking about. You see what I'm saying?
Lauren LaRosa
That's that. But that's the date. That's not even the game day. The game day is Saturday, Okay?
Charlamagne Tha God
Salute to Delaware State. Ain't DeSean Jackson your coach?
Lauren LaRosa
Yes, he is. And we've been on a winning streak.
Charlamagne Tha God
What?
Lauren LaRosa
We've been on a winning streak.
Charlamagne Tha God
Let me look and see how many games. You don't even know what the hell's going on. Hold on.
Lauren LaRosa
My uncle just posted it on Facebook. I saw it yesterday.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's only been like two games. Let me see.
Lauren LaRosa
You just.
Charlamagne Tha God
They first, y'.
Lauren LaRosa
All.
Charlamagne Tha God
First in the meac.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes, because we're on a winning streak. Delaware State University winning streak.
Charlamagne Tha God
Three in ones under DeSean Jackson.
Lauren LaRosa
It's now three straight wins. A first in the program since 20, 2012. It's time to get excited about the Hornets, y'.
Charlamagne Tha God
All. That's dope. Salute to desean Jackson, man.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes.
Charlamagne Tha God
Salute.
Lauren LaRosa
Now.
Charlamagne Tha God
I hope y' all can pay him. Um. Now what? Yeah, I just hope y' all can pay him.
Lauren LaRosa
We. We play this. Go ahead, keep on.
Charlamagne Tha God
You have no idea what the hell is going on. The positive note is simply this. It comes from Bobby Brown, who joined us early this morning. Always remember that how you feel about yourself is more important than how you look. I repeat, how you feel about yourself is more important than how you. You look. Feeling confident, being comfortable in your skin. That's what really makes you beautiful. Have a great day. Breakfast club.
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Episode Title: Cardi B’s New Album Goes Platinum Amid Criticism, iHeart Festival 2025 with GloRilla, Mariah, LL, Ed Sheeran + Bobbi Brown Interview
Hosts: Charlamagne Tha God, DJ Envy, Lauren LaRosa, Jess Hilarious (absent)
Notable Guests: Bobbi Brown (Cosmetics Founder), Mimi Brown (Front Page News), iHeart Festival Highlights
This episode covers big moments and current issues from music and culture:
[18:49–22:20]
[69:12–76:05]
[04:36–08:19], [28:50–39:00]
[39:30–68:26]
[85:16–99:56]
“You gotta have a point of difference or you’re just gonna sit there and invest too much money.”
—Bobbi Brown, on starting a business [55:22]
“If you choose to still be with a person after the break baby, then that’s on you. You’ve got to eat that.”
—Charlamagne Tha God [95:07]
“How you feel about yourself is more important than how you look.”
—Bobbi Brown [115:43]
“Some moments you feel like you forgive the person who killed somebody you love, because you’re supposed to... but I don’t know if that’s possible.”
—Charlamagne Tha God on forgiveness [08:52]
“At some point, we have to acknowledge this is simply Donald Trump’s hit list.”
—Charlamagne Tha God on media backlash [33:40]
Today's Breakfast Club was a vibrant blend of news, raw personal stories, and cultural debate, all stitched together with laughs and real-life advice. Whether unpacking the music industry, relationships and “rules,” or the meaning of authenticity in careers and life, the team brought energy, tough questions, and a little shade, as always.