DJ Envy (2:55)

Wake that ass up.

Charlamagne Tha God (2:56)

Program your Alarm to Power 105.1 on iHeartRadio.

Pastor Torre Roberts (3:00)

Good morning, USA.

Charlamagne Tha God (3:01)

Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

DJ Envy (3:07)

Jess.

Angela Yee (3:08)

Hilarious.

DJ Envy (3:09)

Charlemagne the God.

Charlamagne Tha God (3:10)

Peace to the planet. It's Thursday. You okay? How y' all feel out there? I feel blessed. Black and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning.

DJ Envy (3:20)

He forgot what day it was. Okay.

Charlamagne Tha God (3:22)

I'm 47 years old, right? Things happen sometime. Salute to Jess. Hilarious. I saw you on Tamron hall yesterday.

Jess Hilarious (3:28)

Yes.

Charlamagne Tha God (3:29)

Promoting your new book, Tell Deaf Duty Parent, which is available everywhere. You buy books now.

DJ Envy (3:33)

How was she on?

Charlamagne Tha God (3:34)

I thought she was great. Okay. That was the. She had. First of all, she had the very mature hair. No, no, no, no. She had. She had the very mature hair.

DJ Envy (3:41)

Okay, okay.

Charlamagne Tha God (3:42)

And I think the mature hair did something to her. Had her sounding very, very, very mature.

Jess Hilarious (3:48)

Yo, not the hair. That had me sounding very mature.

Charlamagne Tha God (3:51)

Very polished, but still very. Just hilarious, you know?

DJ Envy (3:55)

And I was nervous.

Charlamagne Tha God (3:56)

I was like, why doesn't she do that here? Shut up.

DJ Envy (3:59)

Yo, so what hair is it today? Cause her hair is it back to

Charlamagne Tha God (4:05)

Chief T. Rohn might be coming today. So that's in case she got a fight.

DJ Envy (4:09)

Ah, got you.

Charlamagne Tha God (4:11)

I got you.

Angela Yee (4:12)

But look.

DJ Envy (4:12)

Why?

Jess Hilarious (4:13)

My mother said the same thing. She's like, oh, my God, you were amazing. You were just elegant. You were soft, and you were polished. She said the same thing. And then she was like. And then I watched Breakfast Club all the time, and you not like that on there.

Charlamagne Tha God (4:24)

That's right, Mama Robin. I don't know what that is either.

Jess Hilarious (4:27)

Calm down, please. I told her it's Charlemagne. Yes, it is. The way. It's the way this place is set up.

Charlamagne Tha God (4:35)

Nope. No.

Jess Hilarious (4:36)

Yes, it is.

Charlamagne Tha God (4:36)

Nope. Because Tamron way more ratchet than us.

Jess Hilarious (4:38)

But she is not.

Charlamagne Tha God (4:39)

Yes, she is. Okay. But no, I thoroughly enjoyed it. I thought you.

Jess Hilarious (4:43)

Thank.

Charlamagne Tha God (4:43)

You did fantastic on Tamron Hall.

Jess Hilarious (4:45)

I really appreciate it.

DJ Envy (4:46)

That's dope. Well, her book is out right now. If you're out and about, make sure

Pastor Torre Roberts (4:49)

you pick it up or you order it.

DJ Envy (4:50)

Definitely Definitely get in. I see you're starting to get number one on all those Amazon lists, which is amazing. Salute to everybody. Drop a bomb for Jessilaris and everybody

Charlamagne Tha God (4:57)

that went out and supported yesterday. When I looked, you were number one comedian by biography list. And what was the other one? Hold on. Don't get me in the line. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Number one. Oh, yeah. Okay. Number one bestseller in comedian biographies and memoirs with the audiobook and top new release in parenting and family humor with the hardcover.

DJ Envy (5:19)

Salute to you, Jeff.

Charlamagne Tha God (5:20)

Thank you to everybody going out there to go get that.

Jess Hilarious (5:22)

Absolutely.

DJ Envy (5:23)

That's right. So yesterday, my daughter's dance competition started.

Jess Hilarious (5:26)

Nice.

DJ Envy (5:27)

It's dumbfall, like, two and a half hours. But I drove back.

Jess Hilarious (5:29)

Okay?

DJ Envy (5:30)

I drove back. I was like, I'm not spending the night there, but had a Roof Chris nearby, and I ate that sweet potato cast.

Charlamagne Tha God (5:38)

Sweet potato su. Man, now you talking about some living.

DJ Envy (5:44)

Hear me? I forgot about how to taste it. I'm have to take up. I'm have to take a note out of Calla's mouth. And when that thing touched my mouth, my mouth, my tongue.

Charlamagne Tha God (5:53)

Oh, my gosh. That sweet potato souffle from R. Chris. Roof Chris is something that you think about. I. I've been out of town, like in places like Atlantic City, and went there just to get the side. Like, you get something to get a hundred from somewhere else and go to Roof Chris to get the side. That's what they got some fat back living.

DJ Envy (6:09)

But, oh, my God, that was a

Jess Hilarious (6:10)

little crumble on the top. Freshly done.

Charlamagne Tha God (6:13)

Now y' all talking about life. Now y' all talking about life.

DJ Envy (6:16)

I felt so bad after. But what in the moment, I just. It was just. And I couldn't stop.

Jess Hilarious (6:20)

It just.

DJ Envy (6:20)

You just kept. You just kept doing it in the harmony.

Charlamagne Tha God (6:23)

Don't feel bad at sweet potatoes. That's the way I. That's the way I rationalize it in my mind. That is a sweet potato. That is so good. That is a superfood.

DJ Envy (6:29)

Oh, my goodness. All right, well, let's get the show cracking.

Charlamagne Tha God (6:31)

And I am glad that our guest that we have today is none other than Pastor Torre Roberts.

DJ Envy (6:36)

That's right.

Charlamagne Tha God (6:36)

Because, you know, sometimes I like to be still and meditate and really feel God and get these downloads from God. And as I was driving in this morning, I got one of those downloads, and I was like, man, this is a fantastic day to have Torre Roberts on with his new book, Knowing the journey to certainty in an uncertain world. Okay. Because I really, really felt God in A real way this morning.

Pastor Torre Roberts (6:59)

All right.

DJ Envy (7:00)

He'll be joining us this morning. We got a lot to discuss. Of course, Mimi's up. Next year's front page news.

Charlamagne Tha God (7:05)

What?

DJ Envy (7:05)

We starting to show it, man.

Charlamagne Tha God (7:05)

We starting the show with Candy Rain by Soul for real. Because I was singing this at the top of my lungs this morning. My love, do you ever dream of candy? Cosine, My candy rain Breakfast Club.

DJ Envy (7:28)

Morning, everybody. It's D. AJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the breakfast.

Charlamagne Tha God (7:33)

It's about the feeling, okay? It's about the intention. It's about the energy. I don't have to carry a note.

DJ Envy (7:38)

I can't feel it when your mouth's open, bro.

Charlamagne Tha God (7:40)

I don't. I don't like this. This is the day I go to human resource. This is the day that I go to hr.

Jess Hilarious (7:46)

I can't really be trying to defend you.

Charlamagne Tha God (7:48)

I can't take that now. That was natural. That was disgusting. I feel violent.

Mouse (7:52)

Stop singing.

Charlamagne Tha God (7:53)

That was gross.

DJ Envy (7:57)

St. Cavaliers beat the Raptors 125. 120. The Lakers had a lead of 30 in the series. Now the lead is 3 2. They lost to the Rockets 99, 93. And the Pistons beat the Magic 116, 109. What's up, Mimi?

Mimi Brown (8:12)

Good morning, Envy. Jeff, Charlemagne. How y' all doing this morning? Good morning. So we start this morning with a major decision from the Supreme Court and what it could mean for your vote. So in a new ruling in the court. In a new ruling, the court has made it harder to challenge voting maps that may disadvantage black and minority communities. So for decades, the Voting Rights act of 1965, it specifically section 2, it allowed people to sue if states drew political maps that weakened the voting power of black voters. Now, that's how majority of black districts were created, to make sure that their communities had a fair shot at representation. But now the court is narrowing that protection, saying those kinds of districts can be constitutional in some cases. So what does that mean going forward? Well, it opens the doors for states to redraw maps and potentially eliminate or weaken districts that have historically helped black members get elected to Congress. Experts say as many as 15 congressional districts could now be at risk, mostly across the South. Now, immediately after this ruling, I spoke with Derek Johnson, president of the naacp, for his reaction. Let's listen. And what was your reaction when you first heard the news?

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (9:26)

You know, I was disappointed but not shocked. We have. We have began to see this trend in this current political environment. This is a stack Supreme Court. Every citizen should have equal protection under the law and the ability to cast an effective ballot. What this Supreme Court has just done is weaken our ability as African Americans to. To fully engage. But if you think about the African American population, over 52% of all African Americans live in the Southern states, the former Confederate states. This would drastically reduce African Americans opportunities to electors of their choice. But for us, we also need to take action. We need to overwhelm other ballot box in November so we can ensure that we put people back in office at representation, present our need and interest and we can protect and reverse some of the trends that people are predicting.

Charlamagne Tha God (10:24)

Yeah, so, so basically, Mimi, there is no legal protection against systemic racism in regards to voting?

Mimi Brown (10:30)

No, not anymore. Not anymore.

DJ Envy (10:33)

Did you see what Barack Obama said yesterday by any chance? Well, he said exactly what the brother president Derrick Johnson said, buddy. You know, he says the good news about all of this is that such setbacks can we can overcome. But that will only happen if citizens across the country who cherish our democr democratic ideals continue to mobilize and vote in record numbers. We have to vote not just in the upcoming midterms or in the high profile races, but in every election and every level. But how many times have you heard that?

Charlamagne Tha God (10:58)

Exactly. He's not wrong. But yes, I really hate how the solution to voter suppression is always larger voter turnout. How come when they're in power they don't do something to protect the vote? Like why is the solution of voter suppression, which we know is always going to happen, always just we got to go out there and vote in record numbers. Like it got to be something, but

DJ Envy (11:18)

that happens all the time. Don't we go out there and vote in record numbers?

Charlamagne Tha God (11:20)

Absolutely.

DJ Envy (11:22)

You want more numbers and more numbers. But I feel like we do it

Charlamagne Tha God (11:25)

and there's just got to be a better political solution than this. Always larger voter turnout. Like they can't continue to do things like the Supreme Court can't continue to do things like they just did. And that's our only solution always is large voter turnout. How can we be protected politically from this?

Mimi Brown (11:43)

Yeah, that is a great question. And I did ask him that. And they said that they are working on, you know, just voter education and just basically what you said, getting out to vote. But going forward, voters challenging a redistricting map will now have to prove that the discrimination was intentional. And so that's really going to be hard to do. Voter rights groups say that bar is nearly impossible to clear. So, you know, we'll have to just continue to watch this. But as of right now, you're absolutely right. That protection is gone for, for, you know, the Voting Rights act, especially specifically that, that Section two. And so we also have President Trump's reaction following that major Supreme Court ruling. At the time of the ruling, the president said he had not been briefed on that decision. And asking reporters at the White House for the details, this is his reaction.

Angela Yee (12:34)

Go back to the Supreme Court ruling

Mimi Brown (12:35)

on that Voting Rights Act. I know you said you haven't seen it.

DJ Envy (12:37)

When did it come out?

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (12:38)

Just now?

Angela Yee (12:38)

No, it came out this morning.

Mimi Brown (12:40)

But basically, very much narrows the Voting Rights act, which you considered a win for Republicans.

DJ Envy (12:45)

I love it. But my question, this is a very good.

Charlamagne Tha God (12:48)

We can end this news conference right now. I want to read it. My question, Mr. President, he got passed a note, too, and the note said, basically, we made it harder for niggas to vote. I love it. I love it.

Jess Hilarious (12:59)

Can't care about nothing else.

Angela Yee (13:01)

Yeah.

Mimi Brown (13:02)

So that was his reaction. But, you know, of course, you know, for the, the people that this will impact a very, very, very different reaction this morning. And so we'll talk more about this. But coming up at 7, students at an HBCU, they are speaking out over a speaker that they say does not reflect their values. And the school is now responding. We'll talk about that.

Charlamagne Tha God (13:22)

Let's go. South Carolina State University. Big S.C. state. Drop one of K bombs for S.C. state. Damn it. Go, Bulldogs. You already know. All right.

DJ Envy (13:31)

Thank you, Mimi.

Charlamagne Tha God (13:32)

Don't get so quiet when I see State get mentioned.

DJ Envy (13:35)

Thank you, Mimi. Okay, everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. Again, 1-800-585-1051. Get it off your chest. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Charlamagne Tha God (13:47)

Hey, what you doing, man? I'm Darling. This is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed.

DJ Envy (13:55)

800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello? Who's this?

Mimi Brown (14:01)

Brittany.

DJ Envy (14:02)

Hey, Brittany, where you calling?

Angela Yee (14:03)

Good morning.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (14:04)

Hey, I'm straight.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (14:05)

All right.

DJ Envy (14:05)

Get it off here.

Charlamagne Tha God (14:06)

803.

DJ Envy (14:07)

803.

Charlamagne Tha God (14:07)

Yeah, Metro. What's happening? Good morning, Brittany. I'm in the low country. You said 843 or 803?

Jess Hilarious (14:13)

803.

Angela Yee (14:14)

803.

Charlamagne Tha God (14:18)

All right. Good morning.

Angela Yee (14:19)

I want to get it off my chest. Too many commercials.

Jess Hilarious (14:22)

I paid 199.

Charlamagne Tha God (14:23)

3 $3 is where I dropped around,

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (14:25)

but y' all got too many commercials.

Charlamagne Tha God (14:26)

I want to hear what Y' all talking about. Well, you know what you can always do? I know you want to listen in real time, which I'm happy that you do, but you can also, you know, listen later on the Breakfast Club podcast because there's no commercials on the podcast.

Angela Yee (14:38)

Yeah, that'll work.

Charlamagne Tha God (14:39)

You can die.

Angela Yee (14:39)

And I'm also mad at because they

Charlamagne Tha God (14:42)

won't Pay for my Zip B. who

Angela Yee (14:44)

because of the weight loss medication.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (14:46)

Blue Shield.

Charlamagne Tha God (14:47)

You say you fat and you on weight loss medication? No, no, no, no, no.

Jess Hilarious (14:51)

You said you mad at who

Charlamagne Tha God (14:56)

because they won't pay for your. What?

Jess Hilarious (14:57)

Weight loss medicine. They won't pay for her weight loss medicine, and she's upset about it.

Charlamagne Tha God (15:05)

Yeah, her phone going in now because I just now heard her say she big and got sleep apnea.

DJ Envy (15:09)

What? Yo, how big are you, mama? I mean, how much do you weigh?

Jess Hilarious (15:12)

Y' all are tripping.

DJ Envy (15:13)

Let me know. I didn't mean that. How much?

Angela Yee (15:15)

I'm a BBW and I'm fine.

Charlamagne Tha God (15:17)

She said she a BBW and she fine.

Jess Hilarious (15:19)

Is she fine?

Angela Yee (15:19)

Yeah.

Charlamagne Tha God (15:20)

I respect that.

Jess Hilarious (15:21)

The apnea. None of that.

Charlamagne Tha God (15:22)

She did say she got sleep apnea.

Jess Hilarious (15:24)

Oh, you did? I do. And that's why I need medicine. Oh, dang, man.

Charlamagne Tha God (15:28)

Blue Cross Blue Shield help her out, man, so she can get her weight loss medication, man, somewhere right around the corner, make sure she need a miracle.

Jess Hilarious (15:33)

Make sure you pick the right one, though. She got to pick the right one because some of them weight loss medicines make your hair come out.

DJ Envy (15:39)

What you looking for?

Charlamagne Tha God (15:39)

Ozempic.

Angela Yee (15:40)

Oh, I don't want. No,

Charlamagne Tha God (15:43)

you want what you need.

Jess Hilarious (15:44)

A new phone?

Charlamagne Tha God (15:44)

A prayer?

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (15:45)

Hello?

Charlamagne Tha God (15:46)

What'd you say? What'd you say, ma'?

Jess Hilarious (15:48)

Am? Oh, Zep bound. Okay, okay, okay.

Charlamagne Tha God (15:52)

What is that?

Jess Hilarious (15:52)

Yeah, weight loss medicine. The commercials. Hey, yo, no, the commercials come on all time for it. Zepbound is supposed to be, like, a better version, a more healthier version than Ozempic.

DJ Envy (16:01)

Gym open right now, too, though, man.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (16:04)

What?

DJ Envy (16:04)

I'm just telling her to Just give her.

Charlamagne Tha God (16:06)

I hope you get your medication, man.

Jess Hilarious (16:07)

Right, well, you can't be mad when

DJ Envy (16:09)

you give somebody options.

Jess Hilarious (16:10)

Yeah, yeah.

Charlamagne Tha God (16:11)

I ain't gonna lie Zepp down sound like this for Big Zap Down. Sound what you sound like what you go get when Ozempic ain't working, bro.

DJ Envy (16:19)

Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Charlamagne Tha God (16:25)

It's a new day. This is your time to get it off your chest.

Jess Hilarious (16:28)

Wait. Wake Up.

State Farm Announcer (16:29)

Whether you're mad or blessed, it's time

Charlamagne Tha God (16:31)

to get up and get something. Call up now.

DJ Envy (16:34)

800-585-1051.

Charlamagne Tha God (16:36)

We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (16:38)

Hello?

DJ Envy (16:39)

Who's this?

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (16:40)

Yo, Envy. What up? Good morning.

DJ Envy (16:42)

What's up? What up? Get it off your chest.

Jess Hilarious (16:44)

Good morning.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (16:45)

This Nam's calling from Toledo, Ohio, man.

DJ Envy (16:48)

What's up, brother?

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (16:49)

I wanted to get this off my chest.

DJ Envy (16:50)

Go ahead, brother.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (16:51)

Oh, man.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (16:52)

You know what, man?

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (16:53)

What I find was so funny, man. Remember when y' all had Candace. Candace Owens up there?

Charlamagne Tha God (16:57)

Yes, sir.

DJ Envy (16:58)

Yeah. Years ago.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (16:59)

That's hilarious. Oh, my God. Remember when you was telling her, God

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (17:02)

is good all the time, and all

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (17:04)

the time, God is good?

Jess Hilarious (17:05)

Yeah.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (17:06)

But she seems so clueless when she said. You know, when y' all were saying it.

Jess Hilarious (17:10)

Yes.

Charlamagne Tha God (17:10)

She didn't even finish it.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (17:12)

When you said it to her, you. You said, what is God is good?

Jess Hilarious (17:15)

I said, God is good. And she said, amen.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (17:21)

He was like, no, right? What the heck is going on?

Jess Hilarious (17:25)

Exactly.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (17:26)

Getting into it, like, God is good all the time, and all the time, God is good.

Jess Hilarious (17:30)

Yep.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (17:31)

And she said, like, in awe. Like, how.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (17:35)

How do you all have.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (17:36)

How are you all in so much sync?

Jess Hilarious (17:37)

Right? Yes, she was. And she was like. And remember, she was like, well, why do you have to say it again? So clueless.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (17:45)

Yo, you know what? We would have never got a moment like that without a character like you on that show.

Jess Hilarious (17:50)

Jess, thank you so much for being

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (17:52)

on that show, Charlemagne.

Charlamagne Tha God (17:59)

Yes, sir.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (18:00)

How about them Cowboys? You know this out here, right?

Charlamagne Tha God (18:02)

Yes, sir.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (18:04)

Yes, sir.

Charlamagne Tha God (18:08)

Don't hang up on him. I'm hanging up on him. Hang up on my. I'm hanging up on that guy.

DJ Envy (18:11)

You can't just be lying up here. It's not the cowboys

Jess Hilarious (18:15)

and you wagon back.

Charlamagne Tha God (18:19)

You don't know what God got planned for the Cowboys.

DJ Envy (18:21)

Not winning.

Charlamagne Tha God (18:21)

You have no idea what's gonna happen with us this year.

DJ Envy (18:24)

Not winning.

Jess Hilarious (18:24)

Oh, God.

Mouse (18:25)

Hello?

DJ Envy (18:26)

Who's this?

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (18:27)

Oh, this is Dre.

DJ Envy (18:29)

Dre? Why you calling Dre?

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (18:32)

Oh, man, I've been calling for over a decade. I'm in Duval now. I'm originally from Chicago, but I was calling because I wanted to commend my wife first and foremost for graduating.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (18:46)

She graduates tomorrow in health administration.

Charlamagne Tha God (18:48)

That's what baby girl. Was she about to be a nurse?

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (18:53)

Oh, no, no, no. She's trying to run her own business. She's been on top of it, trying to handle everything, and I want to really commit her because she's been grinding almost Every day to make this happen. I also want to impossible.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (19:08)

Say happy birthday to my nephew.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (19:10)

His birthday was on Monday. Xavier, happy birthday, bro. Happy birthday to my daughter.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (19:16)

Her birthday was on Sunday.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (19:17)

Happy birthday. I love you. And happy birthday to my wife. Because I probably won't be able to get through for another decade.

Charlamagne Tha God (19:26)

First of all, that's not what you've been wanting to say for the last 10 years. So for the last 10 years, what else has influenced you to call pray so much?

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (19:33)

Oh, man. Like, first and foremost, I need to commend y'.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (19:37)

All.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (19:37)

I've watched the growth that you all

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (19:39)

have had over the last decade, and

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (19:41)

it is so, so motivated. So thank you all for constantly changing

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (19:47)

the way that we look at things.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (19:49)

Second, obviously, as you know, Trump, he's destroying this world. I feel like we don't really have too much that we could look for

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (19:59)

when it comes to him.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (20:00)

So I was curious, is it possible that you all could offer some sort of mentorship that we could utilize to make things better? And our area, I mean, our people,

Charlamagne Tha God (20:11)

well, we try to do that in different ways, Right? Like, I always say that whenever we can create, you know, little pockets of joy for people, for people to come together and congregate and, you know, laugh, learn, be inspired. So we all do that in various ways. Like, you know, I just had the Black Effect Podcast festival this weekend. Envy does it with his car shows. You know, whether it's, you know, giving scholarships to different schools. You know, I got a scholarship fund set up at South Carolina State University to the Mental Wealth Expo, which is a free event I do every October. So we try in different ways, you know what I mean, to create little pockets of joy for us to, you know, learn and be inspired from.

DJ Envy (20:45)

Definitely do.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (20:47)

I appreciate it. Thank you all for letting me get through. Thank you for everything you do. Congratulations, Jeff, on your book.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (20:54)

Thank you.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (20:55)

And again, if you. If I could get through again next week, I'll call again next week. But thank you all for your time.

Charlamagne Tha God (21:01)

Thank you, King. We appreciate you, my brother. That's what I like, man.

Jess Hilarious (21:05)

Yeah.

Charlamagne Tha God (21:05)

The type of conversations I like to have, them type of calls I like to have. Okay. We are nothing without the people who support us and have been supporting us for all these years. Absolutely.

Pastor Torre Roberts (21:13)

Thank you.

DJ Envy (21:14)

Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. We got the latest Lauren coming up.

Angela Yee (21:18)

Yeah, we do got the latest.

Charlamagne Tha God (21:19)

Your head look big as hell in the zoom this morning.

Mouse (21:21)

Oh, wow.

Angela Yee (21:21)

I can't even see you. Are you sitting on your seat?

Charlamagne Tha God (21:23)

Wow. Oh, yeah, I'm sitting right now. Wow.

Angela Yee (21:26)

Are you standing up?

Charlamagne Tha God (21:26)

No, I'm sitting down.

DJ Envy (21:27)

Wow. Okay.

Angela Yee (21:28)

All right. We do have the latest happening this morning. So the Michael Jackson movie. Y' all know we've been talking a lot about it. It's still number one in the box office, but. But the sequel, the conversations are actually starting to happen for round two. And the execs are talking about what is actually going to be in the movie. After a lot of backlash.

Charlamagne Tha God (21:45)

You know, I'm glad we about to have this conversation. Well, I guess we'll have it when

Angela Yee (21:48)

we come back, let's say for when we come back, because it's a good conversation that answers a lot of the questions you've had. Charlamagne, about how they address certain things.

Charlamagne Tha God (21:54)

Yeah, but the movie skipped over a lot because I didn't. I haven't seen the movie yet. But you said it ended in 88, right?

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (21:59)

88.

Angela Yee (21:59)

Yes.

Charlamagne Tha God (22:00)

He bought that publishing in 85 that should have been in that goddamn movie. But we'll talk about it.

Angela Yee (22:04)

We'll get into it.

DJ Envy (22:05)

Okay, we'll get to that. It's the breakfast slow. Good morning.

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DJ Envy (23:02)

Yo, what up, y'?

Charlamagne Tha God (23:03)

All?

DJ Envy (23:03)

It's DJ Envy from the Breakfast Club. Now check this out. The first phone call that ever happened happened over 150 years ago. 150 years. That's before any of this. Before radio, before social media, before all the ways we stay connected. Today, that one call really started everything. And fast forward to now. It's springtime. The weather's breaking. People outside vibes are right again. Thank God. And it got me thinking. Who haven't you talked to in a minute? And, you know, through all these years and all these conversations at&t has been there connecting people in meaningful ways. This is more than a story of technological innovation. It's really a story about human connection, real people, real moments and real relationships. So we celebrate over 150 years of connection. Let this be your reminder. Don't wait. Make that call, send that text. Pull up on somebody you care about. Because at the end of the day, those connections, that's what really matters.

Angela Yee (23:58)

Connecting changes everything. At and t. Okay, so quick, behind the scenes moment about my business because people always ask me, like, how do I actually run everything? So Shopify is literally the platform where I turned this tiny idea into a business. Before this, I was really just like popping up at any in person event, any vending opportunity I could, which I still do. But I wasn't really as focused online. I was like, you know, the websites are going to be too much to build out. I'm not like a super techie person, even though I can make things cute. And I didn't want to put up a website that would run my customers away. I wanted it to be efficient, to be easy. And Shopify helped me build brown girlgrinding.com out. Once I switched to Shopify, it finally clicked like, okay, I can actually do this. It's not about it being tough. It's about using the right platform to make it easy. Shopify takes all of the guesswork out. I build my own store, I manage my community, own my own customer relationships. Plus, this is my favorite thing. Shopify gets my products everywhere. I'm able to link stuff through Google, YouTube, TikTok, Shop the Shop app, even Chat, GPT and Instagram, which is very important for me. And Shopify's AI co founder, sidekick, game changer, let me tell y', all, right? So it's helped me not only optimize my site, it helps me look at my sales trends, it updates my product skills, all the stuff I'm absolutely not an expert in. But it's like having a genius business partner that never sleeps. And right now, the Brown Girl grinding storefront and the Black Effect storefront is busy and Shopify is handling all of the heavy lifting. I love that for us. I am pumped, like so pumped that Shopify is going to show up at the Black Effect Podcast festival this year in a big way. And I will be there pre this platform to all of the small black owned businesses that partner with us. So if you've been sitting on an idea or if you're ready to scale, which you've already started, this is your sign. Go to shopify.com Ben if I can do it you can do it too.

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Angela Yee (26:44)

Yeah, I'm not dumbing myself down, I'm being myself.

Charlamagne Tha God (26:48)

Source is trusted.

Angela Yee (26:51)

I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything and everything. The little brown girls look at you and go, I want to be like you. Take me through that. Take me through there.

State Farm Announcer (27:00)

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Charlamagne Tha God (27:04)

LL Cool B Talk. Talk to me.

Angela Yee (27:08)

All right, guys, so before we get into the Michael Jackson conversation really quick, I wanted to make sure that we sent some love over to Ving Grames and his family. So the actor producer who starred in Baby Boy Mission Impossible yesterday, it was reported that he suffered a medical scare. He was out to dinner in LA with his family. He was at a restaurant and people that were in the restaurant were reported to TMZ that at some point he had like collapsed and collapsed into the table where they were having dinner and he was in and out of consciousness. Paramedics rushed over to the restaurant, took him to the hospital, and they said the call came in for, as a, you know, for a male, £60 that was. That needed to be transported.

DJ Envy (27:49)

60 years old, you mean?

Angela Yee (27:50)

I'm sorry, in his 60s.

DJ Envy (27:51)

Yeah.

Angela Yee (27:53)

Yes, right.

Jess Hilarious (27:54)

He was on that bound.

Angela Yee (27:55)

Yes, in his 60s that needed to be transported to the hospital ASAP. Now there, his rep in the beginning was just saying that they believed that he was just like overheated but will be fine. So he was taken to the hospital and observed. But then his rep gave an update to some outlets saying that he was released from the hospital, he was heading home and that he feels fine now. And he was actually like joking around and telling jokes as he was leaving the hospital.

Charlamagne Tha God (28:16)

But that's good.

Angela Yee (28:17)

That is good to hear. Yeah. So sending him some love now as we shift gears A bit. We've been talking a lot about the Michael Jackson movie. So yesterday I was listening to this podcast. It's called. There's a podcast that a guy named Adam Folkerson does. He's a movie critic. And the way that Adam Ferguson does his conversations, a lot of times he gets like, you know, I get, like, exclusive stories. He gets advanced scripts for movies. Sometimes it's plays that will only stay a play, but sometimes they go into movies. So he received the Michael Jackson original script before they did all those reshoots. So he's interviewing the chairman of Lionsgate Motion Picture Group Group, and he's interviewing this. This guy. Right. And talking from the original script. Now, the conversation that they're having, for those who don't know, Lionsgate funded and produced the Michael Jackson movie along with Graham King and the Michael Jackson estate, which are his attorneys, they're talking about what was taken out and kind of some of the things that went down. So first, you know, Lionsgate, they confirmed that they are about to go into talks. Let's take a listen.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (29:20)

I'm sure those were not easy meetings because the estate up.

Charlamagne Tha God (29:24)

They caused this problem.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (29:26)

And you gotta work together to get to the solution.

Charlamagne Tha God (29:30)

Yeah.

Lionsgate Representative or Interviewee (29:30)

Look, I have not had to or chosen to dive in, to dissect when that agreement came about, who was there, who wasn't. And it's not for me to determine that.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (29:41)

I did hear Branka was not allowed on set.

Lionsgate Representative or Interviewee (29:44)

I can't.

Charlamagne Tha God (29:45)

You can't comment on that.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (29:46)

Okay.

Lionsgate Representative or Interviewee (29:46)

What I can say to you is, if I were the director, if I was told that a significant portion of the work I had done might or couldn't be included in the film I thought I had made, it would take me a beat, especially a Michael Jackson movie.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (29:59)

A movie, you know is going to be scrutinized and criticized and become a lightning rod.

Lionsgate Representative or Interviewee (30:05)

It would take me a beat. So I think it's fair to say that Antoine needed a beat to wrap his mind around. Okay, how do we move forward from here?

Angela Yee (30:13)

So that was not the audio we were supposed to go to, but that audio right there, they're talking about the fact that. And I didn't know this. I know that Antoine Fuqua had talked about a lot of the reshoots that were happening, which is what made the movie budget go up because they removed things, so they had to go back and redo everything. But they're in this conversation, are talking about that Antoine Fuqua was. There were reports that he was mad to the point where he was going to quit. He did not want to do. He did not want to direct this film anymore because he had fully shot the movie. And then the estate came and said, oh, we messed up legally. We got to take out some things. He'd already turned in a director's cut. So they talk about how Michael Jackson's lead attorney, who I told you got guys, is also featured in the movie, was not allowed on set for a bit because Antoine Fuqua was. He was upset about the things that he had to go back and redo.

Charlamagne Tha God (30:53)

I don't understand. I mean, listen, I'm not a film director, but I don't understand why it's so hard to, you know, do this movie like you. You do the movie by simply telling the truth.

Jess Hilarious (31:01)

Yeah.

Charlamagne Tha God (31:02)

It's like everybody wants to focus on what people feel as opposed to what actually happened. What actually happened was Michael Jackson got investigated for 17 years and the FBI found nothing. What actually happened was Michael Jackson was found not guilty in a court of law. Yeah, but what actually happened was you had people accusing him now who back in the day said Michael Jackson never did anything to them. So what's the problem? Tell the truth.

DJ Envy (31:24)

Well, the thing is, is when the. When the state is involved. Right. The state wants that filmed a certain way. They wanted to look a certain way.

Charlamagne Tha God (31:31)

Right.

DJ Envy (31:31)

And they probably didn't see that. They probably didn't like what they seen after the director's cut. That's like somebody coming up here doing an interview. They do an interview.

Charlamagne Tha God (31:38)

Okay.

Angela Yee (31:39)

Envy. It wasn't the estate, so it's not that they didn't like what they saw. And we're going to. We're going to talk about that. What happened. I'll let them tell you what happened before we get there. I want to go to play audio number two, where they talk about the allegations being addressed, and it'll kind of clear some things up. But it was not the estate wanting to keep everything like, you know, peaches and cream. Let's take a listen to audio number two.

Lionsgate Representative or Interviewee (31:59)

I don't want to get ahead of the filmmakers in what a second movie could be. There is a massive amount of music and life experiences separate and apart from allegations that would fill more than a second movie on its own. Some of the things that were in the script that you read and reported on obviously cannot be included. But continuing to get a deeper understanding of who Michael was, I think there are any number of ways the filmmakers will be able to pull that off. And over the next couple weeks, when we all sit down and talk about their full and complete vision for what this movie will be. I'll be in a better position to answer the question.

Charlamagne Tha God (32:35)

Show me the business of Michael Jackson. Show me how Michael Jackson purchased the Beatles Publishing for $47.5 million and then he merged with Sony and owned half of damn near the whole music industry's publishing. And how he was giving a lot of black artists their publishing back. Show us that.

DJ Envy (32:51)

But. But who wanted this stuff taken out then if it wasn't the estate that one of this stuff. Who wanted that stuff taken out there?

Angela Yee (32:56)

So we've talked a little bit about this. So what happened was they were going to address the first allegation that happened against Michael Jackson. That was the Jordan Chandler. Right. But when.

DJ Envy (33:05)

When.

Angela Yee (33:05)

When Michael Jackson's estate settled with Jordan Chandler. And again, they didn't settle because an admission of guilt. And they made that very clear. There was something in the paperwork that said that that situation could never be dramatized.

Charlamagne Tha God (33:15)

There was legal.

Pastor Torre Roberts (33:16)

There was legal.

Charlamagne Tha God (33:17)

Legal restrictions. Yes, yes. And they couldn't dramatize it and they couldn't do a dramatized depiction of those events in any movie moving forward.

Angela Yee (33:24)

But the estate didn't catch that until Antoine Fuqua had shot the first cut of the movie. So they addressed it and then they had to go back and take out a lot of different things. Let's take a listen to audio number three really quick. And I think this will clear this conversation.

Lionsgate Representative or Interviewee (33:35)

The screenplay for the movie that was original to be made did deal with it. Not because of anything that the estate of the filmmakers were wanted to do, but the revelation of the agreement that prevented it from being dramatized is what prevented it. So it is not that the estate and the filmmakers were unwilling to go there. And I think that they. That needs to be a part of any conversation about what the filmmakers or what the estate were willing to do. There's been a lot of commentary on. This is an estate sanctioned biopic. Musical biopsies by definition, or you don't get the music.

Angela Yee (34:12)

Yeah. So then they also talk a bit about the fact that, like they're going to address, you know, the allegations and that critics might not even be happy with the way that they address it

Charlamagne Tha God (34:20)

because they're going to have to tell. They're going to tell the truth.

Angela Yee (34:22)

Exactly.

Charlamagne Tha God (34:23)

Feelings. We're gonna deal with the facts.

DJ Envy (34:25)

Yeah, they should tell the truth. But the estate also should have known what they could have been put in that movie or not.

Pastor Torre Roberts (34:29)

Right.

DJ Envy (34:29)

That lawyer has been working with them long enough to know. Know he probably did some of those Details and that. That they should have known that there's no way that that should have been shot.

Charlamagne Tha God (34:36)

Well, that wasn't. I don't think that was a Michael Jackson detail. That was a detail from Jordan Chandler's side.

Angela Yee (34:41)

But still, the estate would have known it. Y' all figured out the settlement?

DJ Envy (34:44)

Yeah, they signed the settlement.

Charlamagne Tha God (34:45)

That was 1994. That was a long, long time ago. It's still a long time ago.

Angela Yee (34:49)

Antoine Fuqua said he has at least one third of the sequel already done. He told Deadline that a few days ago. So I can't wait to see it. Yeah. Now, it's not Greenly or anything. Michael Jackson 2 is. Isn't greenlit yet. But the fact that Lionsgate is like, yo, we're gonna have. Go have these conversations. That is coming.

Charlamagne Tha God (35:05)

Show me how Michael Jackson tried to buy Marvel back in the day because he wanted to play Spider Man. Show me stuff like that. Show me the business side of Michael Jackson. Michael was out here cooking. Cooking.

Jess Hilarious (35:17)

Had no idea.

DJ Envy (35:18)

The only reason I hate these conversations, that they. They act like the. The Michael movie was whack or trash or show me this or put this in it. The movie was amazing. Regardless of what was in it was not. That first part of the movie was amazing. And I know you didn't say it yet, but that movie was an amazing, dope movie.

Charlamagne Tha God (35:32)

But you know why all of these conversations are happening? These conversations are happening because they continue to lose to Michael Jackson. Even when they tried their best to try to, you know, slander him, criticize, and put the propaganda on him, he keeps losing. Like, literally last week, it was some accusations that came out the weekend of the movie. You think that was coincidence? Absolutely not. And look at all of the records that it broke. So now, now they're forced to have a conversation that they don't want to have.

DJ Envy (35:58)

Movie was still a dope, amazing movie. It showed his life. It was. It was. My kids had a great time. We're gonna go see the movie again this weekend. Nah, that movie was still good.

Charlamagne Tha God (36:07)

I know people like, ish.

DJ Envy (36:08)

This should have been in there. Well, this could have been. No, the movie was dope.

Charlamagne Tha God (36:11)

I'm going, I can't f. Everybody's feeling

DJ Envy (36:13)

that movie is great.

Angela Yee (36:14)

Yeah. And they. And they're projecting that it's going to hit a billion dollar. The billion dollar global mark soon. And they talked about there were some studios that didn't want to take the film because of some of the things you just talked about. Charlamagne and Lionsgate was like, I know they.

DJ Envy (36:25)

They saw it now F them movie was amazing. I can't wait till part two comes out.

Angela Yee (36:30)

Me either.

DJ Envy (36:31)

My daughter's still out there trying. Still doing the moon. Yeah, Doing the moonwalk into the backflip. She's creating her own moonwalk.

Charlamagne Tha God (36:37)

And I'm telling you, Michael Jackson wants us in the box office. Because last week it was Michael Jackson movie, and this week one spoon of chocolate comes out tomorrow in Paris. Jackson is in that and she kills it too. And I'm telling you, she kills one spoon of chocolate. That's an instant classic for me. That's one of my favorite movies of all time. I watched it twice.

DJ Envy (36:54)

Well, the Riz is coming up here tomorrow. We'll talk to the Riz about that. I didn't even know that was Paris Jackson. Charlamagne was like, that's Paris Jackson. I'm like, oh, that is because you just see her as an actress and she gets busy.

Charlamagne Tha God (37:02)

Well, I didn't know either till somebody told me.

Angela Yee (37:04)

Oh, oh.

Jess Hilarious (37:04)

And did y' all know yesterday was Duke Ellison birthday and he would have been 127.

Charlamagne Tha God (37:08)

He's from. He would not have been 120. No, he wouldn't have.

Jess Hilarious (37:11)

You know, people live long. Well, not no more, you know, because the food and everything.

Charlamagne Tha God (37:15)

But he wouldn't have made it to 127. No, that wouldn't have happened.

Jess Hilarious (37:18)

Okay.

Angela Yee (37:18)

He would have been the birthday period.

Jess Hilarious (37:20)

Right. 127.

Charlamagne Tha God (37:22)

That wouldn't have happened. All right.

DJ Envy (37:24)

All right. Well, that's the latest with Lauren. Anybody else's birthday? You want to be anybody?

Jess Hilarious (37:28)

182 today. I just think that was very 204 years old.

Charlamagne Tha God (37:32)

Shut up.

DJ Envy (37:32)

All right, when we come back, we got front page news. Don't move us to Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get back in some front page news started for some quick sports last night. Night, the Cavs beat the Raptors 125. 120. The Pistons beat the Magic 116, 109. And the Lakers lost to the Rockets. The Rockets beat him 99.93. What's up, Mimi?

Mimi Brown (37:55)

Good morning, NBA Jama. How y' all doing?

Charlamagne Tha God (37:58)

Mimi Brown? Good.

Mimi Brown (38:00)

So we start this hour with a story out of South Carolina State University, where student voices are making an impact. So the school is now changing its 2026 commencement speaker after days of student protests on campus. So originally, the university had invited South Carolina's Lieutenant governor, Pamela Yvette. Citing her background as a successful business leader. But students, they pushed back, raising concerns about her political positions and saying that they were not properly informed about this decision. Let's listen to one of those student voices.

Angela Yee (38:33)

As students of the hbcu, we stand on legacy rooted in advocacy, equity and empowerment. Diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives are not abstract ideas on our campus. They are essential frameworks that have provided access, opportunity and support for countless students. The suggestion for dismantling or threatening these programs directly undermines various systems that have allowed us to succeed.

Charlamagne Tha God (39:00)

Man, drop on the clues bombs for South Carolina State University. Commencements should be about the students. They are about the students. So, you know, the students should decide who is the commencement speaker.

DJ Envy (39:10)

I totally agree with you.

Charlamagne Tha God (39:11)

And if they don't want that person to be the commencement speaker for whatever reason, especially if the reasons are political, I think they have that right.

DJ Envy (39:20)

I totally agree. I don't think I've ever seen a commencement where the students were able to pick. It's usually, you know, faculty and the president of the university, and the students usually just gotta take it. Pause. But I think the fact that students, I mean, you pay, you do your time, you do four or five years in college, you pay for four or five years in college. College. You should be able, collectively, as a student body, be able to pick who's going to be at your best day. You want to be.

Charlamagne Tha God (39:44)

You want to be. You want to listen to somebody that's going to inspire you, Right? Somebody that you can actually look to and see yourself in. You don't want to see somebody that is opposition up there talking to you.

Mimi Brown (39:57)

Yeah, and I think that's what they were saying, especially in this political climate, because Yvette, she responded saying the situation shows, quote, why we can't give up the fight to NDEI on campuses. And pointing to what she called safety concerns when she also criticized the professors, accusing them of fueling the outrage, and called an end to tenure. And she referred to the protests as woke mobs, you know, further infuriating the students in the university. They said that they made the change out of concern for the students, out of safety, and they wanted to keep, as you guys were saying, the focus on graduation. Listen to the president of South Carolina State right now.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (40:36)

We can't pull back what's out on social media. We can't pull back what people think. But I certainly don't want people to

Charlamagne Tha God (40:44)

think that the students here at South

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (40:46)

Carolina State University, future educators, doctors, lawyers, attorneys, scientists, business owners, are thugs. And I certainly would never intentionally Place our students, our faculty, our staff, our visitors in harm's way. And with that being said, because of

Charlamagne Tha God (41:06)

that, because of the unknown, I've made

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (41:09)

the decision to rescind the invitation to the lieutenant governor to speak at your commencement.

Charlamagne Tha God (41:16)

I didn't like some of the things that the lieutenant governor was alluding to. I didn't like some of the things that the S.C. state president said, like calling them a woke mob, alluding that she wouldn't be safe, saying things like, you know, he don't want nobody to think those young men and women are thugs. Listen, the young men and women of South Carolina State University were peacefully protesting. Anyone who thinks those kids are thugs, it says more about them than the students. Like, protesting is not an act of terrorism. It's a constitutional right. So I saw a bunch of young Americans exercising their constitutional right to protest on South Carolina State University campus. That's what I saw. I ain't seen no police.

Mimi Brown (41:51)

It made a difference.

Charlamagne Tha God (41:53)

It made a huge difference.

Mimi Brown (41:56)

So kudos to them.

Charlamagne Tha God (41:57)

And if they're looking for a commencement speaker, Nakira Marie, she's a young lady that I saw speaking. She's the one who went viral. I don't know that I saw speaking yesterday. She goes to S.C. state. They need to go ahead and make her the commencement speaker because she was fantastic in the video I saw yesterday.

Mimi Brown (42:13)

Yeah, love that. And we are hearing this morning from Erica Kirk. She is speaking out about after going viral online and becoming the criticism, the target of criticism and comedy. Now, she is the widow of Charlie Kirk. And during this viral moment that is going viral right now, she called out comedian Drew Ski over a video where he appears to mock her. And she also says, though it's part of a larger issue, pointing to what she calls a growing culture of dehumanization in the country. Let's listen.

Jess Hilarious (42:45)

I have comedians dressing up in whiteface. I have people saying I'm not fit to be CEO, and I have Candace Owens claiming I murdered my husband. And the list goes on and on. How would you feel if even just one person made cruel jokes about the attempted murder of your loved one? That is what Jimmy Kimmel did to the first lady.

Mimi Brown (43:12)

He said that she had the glow

Jess Hilarious (43:16)

of an expected widow just 48 hours before that nightmare almost became a reality.

Mimi Brown (43:23)

So Jimmy Kimmel has come out and said that that is not what he meant. He was in this happened before, you know, that happened. He said he was referring to President Trump's age, making jokes, as President Trump did recently about his own age. So just kind of some context there. But Kirk says she's also been dealing with that ongoing criticism and false claims in the months since her husband's death.

Charlamagne Tha God (43:46)

It's just very hard for me to take any of those people serious if they never call President Donald Trump out for the stuff that put it. For the. For the crude rhetoric, the violent rhetoric that he spews. It's just very hard for me to take any of them serious when they don't ever call out the president for the things that he does and says, like, I. I just can't take it serious. Now, I do agree with her when she says, you know, like. Like, like saying that she was responsible for her husband's death. That's crazy. You know, like. But. But everything else. No. And in regards to Drew Ski, I would say to her, that's what you think you look like because he ain't never say your name. So you. That. Is that. Is that how you think you look? If that's how you think you look, you need to get on some of that. What was that drug y' all just used? I ain't never used. You need to get on some Zepbound and some Ozempic, you know, if that's how you think you look. Because he never said your name.

Jess Hilarious (44:37)

Ma', am, baby.

Mimi Brown (44:39)

Right. I guess she. She did just confirm that, you know, he was. She thinks he was talking about her, but.

Jess Hilarious (44:45)

A hit Doug going holla. And my best Baltimore voice, a hit Doug going holla.

Mimi Brown (44:51)

All right, y'.

Pastor Torre Roberts (44:52)

All.

Mimi Brown (44:52)

Well, that is your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me @mimi Brown TV. And for more stories, follow the Black Information Network.

DJ Envy (44:58)

Thank you, Mimi.

Angela Yee (44:59)

Thank you, girl.

Charlamagne Tha God (45:00)

Peace, Mimi.

DJ Envy (45:00)

Now when we come back, Pastor Torre Roberts will be joining us. He has a new book, Knowing the Journey to Certainty in an Uncertain World.

Pastor Torre Roberts (45:08)

World.

DJ Envy (45:08)

We're gonna talk to him next, so don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody.

Jess Hilarious (45:11)

Is DJ Envy.

DJ Envy (45:13)

Just hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Loan Laros is here as well. We got a special guest in the building, our guy. His new book knowing is available right now. Ladies and gentlemen, Torre Roberts.

Charlamagne Tha God (45:23)

Welcome back to Tory Roberts.

DJ Envy (45:25)

Good morning, brother.

Pastor Torre Roberts (45:26)

Good morning.

DJ Envy (45:26)

How are you feeling this morning?

Pastor Torre Roberts (45:27)

I feel good.

Charlamagne Tha God (45:28)

Good to be here.

Pastor Torre Roberts (45:29)

I'm thankful, very grateful.

Charlamagne Tha God (45:30)

I got. I gotta ask, how's the queen?

Pastor Torre Roberts (45:32)

She's doing good. She's gotta chill for six weeks just to get stable and then the recovery can begin. So you know Sarah, she likes to go, but I got a whole team around Us saying, you can't go. Go slow. We need you. And so she's doing good, and she sends her love and greetings.

Charlamagne Tha God (45:47)

Okay.

Angela Yee (45:47)

I saw her post yesterday that, you know, she likes. She would love to be with you because y' all do all the big moments together, but she can't be with you and just congratulating you on the book as well.

Pastor Torre Roberts (45:56)

Yeah, yeah, it's hard because that's. That's not just my. My bride. That's my partner. Like, we do everything together. So for her not to be here, it's rough. But she's. She's almost threatened me not to. Like, you better not not go. You know, you. You got a. A great message. You got an assignment. I'll be okay. And so we negotiated. I said, look, as long as there are people around the clock at the house 24 7, I'll go.

Charlamagne Tha God (46:18)

Well, let's talk about it, right? Knowing the journey to certainty in an uncertain world. Your. Your. Your. Your book is about to come out, and something like that happens. That's like the epitome of uncertainty. What do you think God was wanting you to know in that moment?

Pastor Torre Roberts (46:35)

Man, I love that question. The book starts off with basically me being in a challenging spot when I sat down to write it. So you can imagine that I'm writing a book that's about confidence and knowing and so many other things, and then I get slammed. So I feel like it took me to a deeper level of knowing, to be honest with you, because sometimes you have to frame your circumstances so as it relates to what happened with Sarah. For those who don't know, she was in an accident, and she. She fractured her neck in several places. And I'll be honest with you, I was devastated, but I had to reframe it. I could look at it as, hey, this horrible thing happened to my wife. How could that happen? Or I could reframe what I know about it and say, this wasn't a doomsday. This was the day that God delivered her. So it taught me how sometimes knowing is not about what happened, but learning to reframe your circumstances so that you can move forward with gratitude instead of being depressed.

Charlamagne Tha God (47:30)

You know, we hear that scripture all the time, right? Psalm 46, 10. You know, be still and know that I am God. Like, you start the book off, be still and know, right? When you're still, what are. What are you trying to know? Like. Yeah, yeah. I mean, when you're in that moment of stillness, what are you trying to know?

Pastor Torre Roberts (47:45)

I think you're trying to perceive truth. So we live in an attention economy, as you know. So. So every day that you get up in the morning, you got 10,000 companies vying for your decision, literally vying for your next step.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (47:57)

Step.

Pastor Torre Roberts (47:58)

And so. So waking up is warfare, to be honest with you, because everybody's trying to try to get you to move. And so what stimulus will do. And for me, and I just. I'm going to throw this out here. Leave that phone alone for the first 10, 15 minutes of the day, right? Because that warfare is coming through that phone. And you say, I need to see what time it is.

Jess Hilarious (48:15)

Get a clock.

Pastor Torre Roberts (48:15)

What happened to the old school digital clock? But what you're trying to tap into is truth. Because I don't even know what's true. I got so much manipulation coming at me from marketers. Big tag, everybody. So I need to get still, you know, tap into what I know. Like, for me, I love Psalm 23 and 1, and it says, the Lord is my shepherd. I have no lack or I shall not want. I have no lack. That's stillness, right? Because now I'm not in this. This race to get or this sense of I'm about to miss out on something, and I can get still and really sense what God might be trying to bring into my spirit, the clarity that I need.

Angela Yee (48:52)

Need.

Pastor Torre Roberts (48:52)

If you slow down, you can speed up with accuracy.

Angela Yee (48:56)

What about, like, in when you're gotten to that place of certainty, right? And then you're doing new things or something major happens, like, you know, what happened to Pastor Sarah, or even something positive happens, and now things are speeding up again and you don't have the time to really sit and be still. How do you be still while not having the time to really do it?

Pastor Torre Roberts (49:15)

The. The truth of the matter is there are going to be seasons that go really, really, really fast. And you got to know that, especially in our world, you know, stuff moves fast and you have to move. Doors are only open for a short window of time, right? That means that when you have a chance to be still, you got to take it. Because there's nothing wrong with going fast. Fast is actually a good thing. Velocity, you need that velocity. But you just have to make certain that you have enough equity of stillness so that you have clarity. Ain't nothing wrong with running as long as you're running accurately.

Charlamagne Tha God (49:45)

You know, a lot of people think they know themselves and still move wrong. And how do you know when you really know and when you're just lying to yourself?

Pastor Torre Roberts (49:54)

Oh, that's wonderful. Self awareness is Everything in the book, I talk about misnowing and how sometimes we do feel like we're knowing something. But, but what is shaping your knowing? Like for example, in the chapter called misnowing, I talk about trauma, secret symptom. And the best way to illustrate this is to tell you a story. So my. We will go going out of the country. And my 16 year old daughter, she was 14 at the time, told me that she told her friends at school that I was, that we were going out of the country. I'm like, Kenzie, don't be telling them that. They might know we're gone and break into our house and rob us. Now, now, wait a minute. It's real. But we're talking about little Becky.

Charlamagne Tha God (50:35)

Little Becky?

DJ Envy (50:37)

So little Becky might have a brother,

Angela Yee (50:40)

but it comes from you. Your. How you. What you grew up around.

Pastor Torre Roberts (50:43)

Yeah, but it's ridiculous though, so. And Sarah had to pull my card. She was like, so, so, baby, hold on, let me, let's, let's do the math here. You're saying that little Becky is going to get past the guards, she's going to scale the fence, get past the security cameras and rob us blind. And I had to laugh, but it was real to me.

Charlamagne Tha God (51:01)

That's the watch in you, man.

Pastor Torre Roberts (51:03)

That's the watching watch, brother.

Charlamagne Tha God (51:04)

But, but look, look, look.

Pastor Torre Roberts (51:06)

But, but it's true. But, but I, I don't live there no more.

Charlamagne Tha God (51:08)

Yeah.

Pastor Torre Roberts (51:09)

I'm very far away. So, so I'm, I'm calling it wisdom, but it's not really wisdom. It's worry. And now I'm putting that worry on my kids. They don't know nothing about.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (51:18)

No.

Pastor Torre Roberts (51:19)

No. Getting robbed and home evasion. So, so I'm, I'm imparting. I'm imparting an experience that I worked hard to make sure that they didn't have. But that's, that's that misnome. So what you have to do is, look, I believe in therapy, you know, I believe in like therapy. Know what's going on, know why you think what you think. There's a concept called metacognition and it basically means thinking about your thinking. Not just thinking, but thinking, processing. How did I get to this thought?

Charlamagne Tha God (51:47)

They said that's one of the highest forms of intelligence. Being able to think about your own thinking.

Pastor Torre Roberts (51:51)

Yes, absolutely.

DJ Envy (51:53)

But is that, is that really worrying or is that wisdom?

Charlamagne Tha God (51:55)

Right, because we're dads, so we have.

DJ Envy (51:58)

But you also want.

Charlamagne Tha God (51:58)

We know things that our wives and kids don't know.

DJ Envy (52:01)

Right? You want, you want to teach because you're not always going to be here. So you want your daughter to. To, of course, be free, of course, feel away. But you also wanted to keep that eye open that she might not know because you were from a different place where she grew up. You know, I grew up in Queens, but I grew up in Queens. I never had a home invasion. I grew up in Jersey. I've had two. You see what I'm saying? And I've had. I got security to dogs. It's just that equal moment. So you have to teach them to move differently. You know what I mean? So I don't know if worrying. It's a little bit of worry and wisdom though it is.

Pastor Torre Roberts (52:28)

But when my daughter, who has never been to Watts, who has never been. I'm talking about Ella now. Who's never been to Watts, who's never been to anything other than safety, wakes up saying, dad, I'm scared. Something. Something's wrong. Because there is a. You're right. There's a fine line between wisdom and fear. But fear is debilitating. Baby girl, you 10 years old, you ain't got nothing to be afraid of. You know, go live like, dream does. An innocence that you want to protect. So now, don't get me wrong, I have the sit downs with my boys about getting pulled over and all that kind of stuff. But you. I have to make sure. Sure that I am not sowing into them. The pain of my experience at the. At the expense of their innocence.

Charlamagne Tha God (53:08)

That's the hardest part. Right. Especially as a father, because you don't want to pass that trauma into them. Right? But it's like you still want them to be aware, too, and knowing, but not traumatized.

Pastor Torre Roberts (53:20)

Yeah, I get what you're saying. And that's hard. So we. We've learned to handle it. So. So, you know, we've experienced all that, so we. We know how to navigate it. But a child, they don't know how to navigate that. Like, I'm putting ideas in their mind, scary ideas in their mind that they have no context for, with the exception of me telling them that. So I would rather them be free. I don't want them to be stupid. I don't want them to be unwise. But. But I have to really manage how I present something to them.

Jess Hilarious (53:45)

What was your daughter's response when you told her that, though? Like. No, you. You know, she looked at me like.

Pastor Torre Roberts (53:49)

She looked at me like I was crazy.

Jess Hilarious (53:51)

Okay.

Pastor Torre Roberts (53:51)

She, like, really, like, Becky is really gonna.

Charlamagne Tha God (53:54)

Becky's a burglar. That's not what she said she wanted to be in class.

DJ Envy (53:59)

Crazy.

Jess Hilarious (53:59)

So then in turn did you explain like where you were coming from or like, oh, I'm tripping, you know what I mean? Like what, what happened in that moment?

Pastor Torre Roberts (54:05)

I probably need to have a follow up conversation. I was so, I was so, I was so embarrassed cuz Sarah pulled my car. She like, Teri, like, come on, dog, enough is, Look, I, I, I realize you want to, you don't want to sit with your back to the door. That, that's great, I get that. But come on, dog.

Charlamagne Tha God (54:19)

Becky, I get it.

DJ Envy (54:21)

So Becky got a big brother hang

Charlamagne Tha God (54:25)

out with the homies. They're looking for a come up, yo,

DJ Envy (54:28)

you know the robbers just went on vacation.

Charlamagne Tha God (54:30)

You know what I mean?

DJ Envy (54:31)

Becky. Where they live again, where they keep that key. Becky.

Charlamagne Tha God (54:34)

Hey, Pastor Tori, is knowing yourself a destination or a daily practice?

Pastor Torre Roberts (54:39)

Oh, it's a daily practice because you know, you're, you're unfolding and then, you know, it's like, and then the more you grow now you got to relearn yourself again, you know, you know who you are at 20, 30, 40. You got to keep learning. And, and, and there's just a lot. We're, we're complicated, we're complex. There's stuff that we, there's trauma that we know about, there's trauma that we don't. Like when I got shot When I was 16 years old, my body healed in months, but my trauma, I'm still being delivered from the trauma. And this is decades later. You know, my son, one of my sons, Isaiah, he, you know, he wants to, he told me, you know, God's calling him to, to move to la. And, and I'll be honest with you, man, my eyes got big and I'm like, I got afraid, you know, because, you know, I feel like, and first of all, LA is amazing. You know, I still have a place there and I'm there, you know, once a month or whatever.

Charlamagne Tha God (55:29)

But yeah, the church there too, right?

Pastor Torre Roberts (55:30)

Yeah, I got the church there. But I, but I also had a lot of pain there and I feel like in the recesses of my mind, I escaped all of that, right? I moved from watching, I kept going, kept going, kept going. I'm already in Calabasas now. So for him as a young man who I'm trying to protect, for him to say, dad, I feel called to go back to la, and I love la, but it doesn't feel as abundant as it used to. I'll be honest with you, when I go back there, it's a little different. But that was trauma, man. I woke up, I'll be honest, I woke up in the middle of the night, I woke Sarah up. I'm like, babe, man, he wants to move back to la. You know, you, you stay here with me in Dallas. I can cover you, I can protect you. We got a lot of relationships and I have relationships there. But, but, but what I'm getting at is that it takes time. You don't even realize that the trauma's there until there's something that confronts that trauma, you know? And I had to, I had to apologize to him. I told him, hey, if God's calling you to go, he's got you. I said, but I know you saw a little bit of worry in Dad's face. This is why. And you know, he told me, he said, yeah, Dad, I get it. He said, but the same God that took care of you, the same God that protected you, provided for you, blessed you, you know, it's going to take care of me. And I had to give it a up.

Angela Yee (56:34)

And, and I, when I hear you say that, because I used to go to your church when I moved to la. I think a lot of people, when you go to la, they tell you to go to one church, right? And being in your church, that was like, when you were new to la, that's like the only place you kind of felt like we can get together and we feel at home. So to hear you say that your son is being called there, I feel like he might have a calling on his life where he's going to usher in that new generation of that. Because there's a lot of us that came from the, like, we know each other because we went to one church. And it really was like, like you, LA felt different then now, like at that point too, like he might have that for his own self. And I think hearing you say that, you're scared about that. I wonder, when you were kind of, you know, in LA and you decided to get into the church, what fears did you have for your own self? Because you did so much for so many people. And he's probably about to do that too.

Pastor Torre Roberts (57:19)

Wow, that, that's crazy. First of all, I feel like you, you prophesying a little bit. You're definitely encouraging me. If, if nothing else, I didn't, I didn't even look at it as fear because I was in it. I, like, grew up there. And so, you know, you, you navigate certain things. You, you, if you gonna go to certain places, you go a certain way. But I didn't really. I didn't really have that fear. So that's why I know it's trauma, because I don't have it for me, but I have it for him. Trying to protect him. Yeah.

Angela Yee (57:45)

Yeah.

Jess Hilarious (57:45)

You dedicated the. The book to your children. Have they read it yet?

Pastor Torre Roberts (57:49)

They have, they. Have they read it before it was published? Yeah. And that's. That's really, like, when I write a book, you know, the Bible talks about a good man will leave an inheritance for his children's children. And of course, that's going to be inheritance of resources, property and all that kind of stuff, if you're able to do that. But for me, it's also wisdom. So, like, knowing is a book that if they didn't have any other book, if dad was checking out tomorrow, and I needed to leave them a guide that will see them through every season of their lives. That's the book. And so I have. So I envision my children. Even when I preach, I envision my children, because the only way it's going to be effective and transformational is if I love. If I am in love with the person on the other side of those words. So. So I know if. If I write it for my children, I'm gonna write it in love. I'm gonna give it my best. And that means that the reader on the other side is gonna experience that, too.

Jess Hilarious (58:41)

And that is why you allowed your daughter Ella to do your forward.

Mouse (58:45)

Yeah.

Pastor Torre Roberts (58:45)

Yeah. Which was crazy, though, because she's 10 now, but she was 9 at the time. And she came to me, and she's kind of like an introvert, to be honest with you. And she came to me and she's like, dad, I want to write the foreword. Now she's nine years old. Like, first of all, how do you even really understand what a forward is? But there was something in her eye, like, when she said it. And, you know, kids be tapped in, you know, And I looked at her and I was like, okay, okay. And so I went to my publisher, and my publisher was like, you know, and understandably, because it does wasn't, you know, it's supposed to be a subject matter expert or somebody that can bring value, but I. I trusted what she felt. And now, you know, when I'm doing press, that's one of the things that everybody wants to talk about. And when you think about it, children are actually closer to that God knowing than we are. They haven't been contaminated by life and all that kind of stuff. And so. So it actually was a Setup. You know, she knew, knew. I. I knew that she knew, and I held on to that knowing. And now everybody's talking about. I got content around it, and it's. It's resonating with people.

Jess Hilarious (59:53)

That's amazing.

Charlamagne Tha God (59:54)

One thing I love about, you know, you and, you know, Pastor Sarah and even Bishop is that y' all talk about therapy a lot, right? And going to therapy because I wonder, can you truly hear and know God if you haven't dealt with your trauma first? Or does trauma distort the message of knowing?

Pastor Torre Roberts (60:10)

Ooh, that's powerful. Powerful. Trauma definitely distorts the message of knowing, because trauma is so. It's so embedded that it feels inherent, it feels real. And that's kind of like God's voice is inherent in us as well. There's a. There's this Greek word that's. It's only in the Bible one time. And it literally means an organ of perception. It was translated senses. And so the Bible literally tells us that we have an organ of perception, something in us, which makes sense, because if God gave you ears to hear and eyes to see and a nose to smell, why would God not give you the ability to perceive him spiritually? Right. So the reason why trauma feels like that is because it's deep within us. And so if you don't hear from your trauma, you're right. You're gonna be like me. You're gonna be calling worry, wisdom. You know, you're gonna be calling being in despair discernment. So I have to clear the channel. You know, I have to clear trauma's channel, go to therapy, work it out so that I can have a. A level base to perceive whether or not something is the voice of God.

DJ Envy (61:16)

But is trauma bad? Is all trauma bad? When we talk about trauma, we talk about it in a negative way. Right. But I don't necessarily think all trauma can be bad.

Pastor Torre Roberts (61:27)

Yeah, I think. I think that trauma is going to happen to us all, of course. So good or bad, I agree with you. I think trauma itself might be neutral, natural. It is the effects of trauma that can have a negative impact on your life. You know, I learned a lot about some of the things that through the trauma that I experienced, I learned a lot of things. But it's when those things have me and they begin to distort how I move through life. I can't trust anybody. You know, I call it discernment. You know, my discernment is going off. But your discernment is going off with everybody, everybody named Mama. Your discernment is going off.

Charlamagne Tha God (62:00)

So that's like the ring camera. Yeah. So always going to try. Come on.

Pastor Torre Roberts (62:04)

You know, at some point, you're the common denominator in all these. These scenarios. So. So I don't think that trauma is inherently bad, but if it grips you and it distorts you and it. And it alters the way you move through life, then that's something you got to address.

Charlamagne Tha God (62:17)

I like what you said earlier about reframing it.

Pastor Torre Roberts (62:20)

Oh, yeah, you say.

Charlamagne Tha God (62:21)

What did you say? Reframe.

Pastor Torre Roberts (62:22)

Reframing. So. So I got shot in on December 28th. And every December 28th, I used to, like, if I would see that on the counter, I'd be like, oh, man. And I would kind of get a little worried sometimes. I would actually, if I was planning on going out, may not want to do that or whatever. I was shifted. And. And God dealt with me about that. He was like, you're looking at December 28th as the day that you almost died. He said, I see December 28th as the day that I saved you. So we're really. So you have to reframe that. Either you can look at it as this day that something's really terrible happened to you, or something really great happened to you. And. And that was. That was liberating. So in life, we do have to reframe our circumstances. There. There is a good word for everything. There's a good word for bad days. There's never a day or an experience in your life, no matter how devastating it is, that there isn't some good in it somewhere. There's always a silver lining, you know, for God causes all things to work together for good. Now, I'm not trying to say, like. Like, I mean, I'll be honest with you. I didn't feel that way when I was driving Sarah to the hospital, you know, in the middle of the night, and not knowing what's going on and. And seeing my dog. I mean, my. My right hand. This. This. This. This woman is my heart, you know, and we didn't know what. What it was going to be. Are you going to live? You know, are you going to be paralyzed? Like, you know, I mean, she was mad, sweating, and. And I've never seen her like that before. So in that moment, yeah, you're right, man. It didn't feel good. But that's where knowing comes in. Knowing is not about what you think. It's coming to a place where, you know. You know, and it is stronger than believing, you know, it's stronger than hoping. Is Stronger than witness, than wishing. It is a grounded confidence and belief. And sometimes that reframing will give you the creativity that you need to create the outcome you're looking for.

DJ Envy (64:18)

I do have one question. You know, first of all, December 28th is my son's birthday, which is crazy. See, 22 years, he's 22 years old. But I was going to ask, when do you decide what to explain to your kids and what not to when it comes to trauma.

Pastor Torre Roberts (64:30)

Right.

DJ Envy (64:31)

Because there's certain things as a father, you know, Charlamagne has four girls, I have four girls and two boys. Certain things hopefully my kids will never have to deal with. Like that conversation of getting pulled over and what to say, the right thing to say.

Pastor Torre Roberts (64:42)

Right.

DJ Envy (64:42)

My dad's a retired police officer, so he told me early what to say because he's seen it from a different angle, from a different lens. I've had that conversation with my son, but he's never had that feeling. He's never had that. But because I've told him that and I told him the things that happened to me, I told him the things that happened to his grandfather. He is concerned, he is scared. That trauma definitely affected him. But now that I, I have an 11 year old, in the next four years, he's going to start to drive. Do I explain him the same thing because I seen that kind of trauma affected my 22 year old, or do I say let him kind of understand on his own? So what do you decide? What, you explain it now?

Pastor Torre Roberts (65:17)

Yeah, I don't think, I don't think it's. There's one answer. Because every, every child is different and every season of their lives that they're getting ready to walk into is different. I think that we need to be so engaged with our children, so, so connected, so tapped in, you know, I, I get, you know, I get in the car and what, and, and sometimes you want to tell the child, you know, about your day and you want to ask them. But I'm, I'm starting to listen, like, and so if I listen or really like what, what moves you and, and go down there and, you know, Ella might want to, well, we ain't doing that trampoline no more. But, but she used to want to play the trampoline.

Charlamagne Tha God (65:55)

I'mma uproot that whole thing.

Pastor Torre Roberts (65:56)

I'm gonna back are.

DJ Envy (65:57)

But that's a perfect example,

Angela Yee (66:01)

that situation.

DJ Envy (66:02)

Probably because your daughter loves the trampoline, but your wife got injured. So do you say, no, I'm taking that battle because that's trauma.

Charlamagne Tha God (66:08)

Your daughter might be traumatized from what she saw.

Pastor Torre Roberts (66:10)

Oh, no, she.

Jess Hilarious (66:10)

She.

Pastor Torre Roberts (66:10)

She is. So. So I. I think that the point I'm making is building a relationship with the individual child to where you can sense where they are. Because if you sense where they are, you can tell what they can handle. Handle. So, like, even with that scenario, I don't think. I mean, it's sitting there. I already called somebody. I want it dug up. You know, get it up out of here. Jan said, ought to make a garden. Now I think I'll make a garden out of something. Just. It's going, it's gone one way or another. But I think every child is different. And I think that knowing them will help you to know what to say and when. Man, it's hard.

DJ Envy (66:44)

But see that. That's my perfect example, right? So let's say something would have happened in the pool. Do you get rid of the pool?

Pastor Torre Roberts (66:49)

Maybe.

DJ Envy (66:50)

You know, let's say. But, you know, let's say. But that's my point, because it's a different trauma. Yeah, it did happen, but that might be one in a zillion. There's a million one kids that enjoy. So what do you decide to say? I'm gonna be overprotective and say f.

Pastor Torre Roberts (67:04)

That I'm taking it all out or,

DJ Envy (67:06)

you know, what things happen. Let's see how we can prevent it from happening like that.

Pastor Torre Roberts (67:09)

Again, I think it depends on what it is. Now, the trampoline, if you do research on trampolines, I know people be effing

DJ Envy (67:14)

themselves up on the champagne.

Pastor Torre Roberts (67:15)

And I had.

Mimi Brown (67:15)

No.

Pastor Torre Roberts (67:15)

I would have never installed that thing if I'd have known that.

Mimi Brown (67:17)

That.

Pastor Torre Roberts (67:18)

So. So I think a pool is different. You know, pool, you can protect it. But the trampoline is different. But again, I think it's. I think it's case by case. I think it's case by case. I think it's knowing your child, and then it's also about making sure that your trauma isn't informing or putting too much weight on the conversation.

Charlamagne Tha God (67:34)

See, and this is also how trauma works. Now I'm like, damn, I used to. I used to go in the backyard and let the kids go in the trampoline. I'll be reading the book and not paying no attention because I know that they're in clothes. They just jump. Jumping. Now I'm gonna be paying extra attention to them on the trampoline, but I don't even know what to look for when they jump too high. Like.

DJ Envy (67:50)

Yeah, but. But it could be anything. It could Be the way that they fall. Like I do. One at a time.

Charlamagne Tha God (67:53)

Right.

DJ Envy (67:54)

Cause my kids like to jump and make another kid jump higher.

Mouse (67:56)

Yeah.

DJ Envy (67:57)

But I'm like, now it's one at

Pastor Torre Roberts (67:58)

a time, find a new hobby.

DJ Envy (68:01)

But like his daughter's chair, my daughter's dance. So it's part of it. So it's hard to just take it, you know?

Pastor Torre Roberts (68:07)

I know it's. It's hard. That thing, I mean, again, the research says it does lead them trapped alone. Like, it just is what it is.

DJ Envy (68:14)

The pool.

Pastor Torre Roberts (68:15)

All right, well, you know, we can keep the pool, but traveling. Got to go.

Charlamagne Tha God (68:17)

Listen, I could talk to Path Story all day

DJ Envy (68:21)

right now, knowing. We appreciate you for joining us, brother man. We have to close out with a prayer.

Charlamagne Tha God (68:27)

I think this is a very powerful book, though. But I will tell people, you know, a lot of people are afraid of knowing themselves because it comes with responsibility to change. And I think that's what this.

DJ Envy (68:37)

This.

Charlamagne Tha God (68:38)

This book is going to force people to have to do.

Pastor Torre Roberts (68:40)

Yeah, yeah.

Charlamagne Tha God (68:41)

And.

Pastor Torre Roberts (68:41)

And I think, you know, we are in uncertain times, like, and. And we weren't designed for all this unpredictability. We have to get grounded. And I think this book is going to do that. But I would love to pray and.

Charlamagne Tha God (68:51)

Please, please.

Pastor Torre Roberts (68:52)

And first of all, congratulations on everything that's happening in all of your lives, Jess. New book, you know, new deals, new flow, new everything. I just. I'm really excited about the Hand of God and I. Like we talked about before, I think that. That you guys are part of this new wave that God is gonna really, in the backdrop of all this chaos, he's just gonna continue to elevate you guys because of who you are and what you do. So, God, I thank you, Lord, for this opportunity to be on the Breakfast Club. And I thank you, God, for these, your servants. Bless them, God. Bless them collectively, but then also bless them individually, their families, their lives, their businesses. Give them wisdom and strategy. Give them a deep knowing where they might be wondering and ultimately wandering. Give them clarity so that they can start flowing in their knowing going. We thank you. We love you. Bless Sarah. We pray for her right now that you would comfort her, strengthen her, build her up. God and I thank you that she's coming back stronger than ever before. In Jesus name, Amen.

Charlamagne Tha God (69:48)

Amen. There you have it, Roberts.

DJ Envy (69:50)

It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

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Angela Yee (71:40)

It's Lauren LaRosa. Okay, let's talk curls for a second. Cause you already know if you have curly or coily hair. Moisture is not optional, it's essential. Dryness is one of the biggest challenges for curly hair and most products products they clock out after wash day. The new Ultra Moisture collection was literally designed with our hair in mind. Curls, coils, all of it powered by Botano oil and Jamaican Black Castor oil. Which means the science is actually doing the work. Clinically proven to help retain moisture for up to five days. Five whole days. The shampoo gently cleanses without stripping. The mask deeply conditions and helps reduce breakage. The leave in adds a lightweight hydration with hyaluronic acid. It and the curl cream defines without crunch. No sulfates, no parabens, no silicones, no mineral oils, just nourishment without the compromise. Because here's the thing, your hair deserves products that actually understand it Moisture that starts at the root and keeps going. Well past Sunday, that's the Ultra Moisture collection from Cantu. Explore their full line built for every curl pattern, every hair routine available now at Walmart, Target and Amazon. Go get it. Okay, so quick, behind the scenes moment about my business because people always ask me like, how do I actually run everything? So Shopify is literally the platform where I turned this tiny idea into a business. Before this, I was really just like popping up at any in person event, any vending opportunity I could, which I still do. But I wasn't really as focused online. I was like, you know, the websites are going to be too much to build out. I'm not like a super techy person, even though I can make things cute. And I didn't want to put up a website that was would run my customers away. I wanted it to be efficient, to be easy. And Shopify helped me build brown girlgrinding.com out. Once I switched to Shopify, it finally clicked like, okay, I can actually do this. It's not about it being tough, it's about using the right platform to make it easy. Shopify takes all of the guesswork out. I build my own store, I manage my community, own my own customer relationships. Plus plus, this is my favorite thing. Shopify gets my products everywhere. I'm able to link stuff through Google, YouTube, TikTok, Shop the Shop app, even ChatGPT and Instagram, which is very important for me. And Shopify's AI co founder sidekick, game changer, let me tell y'. All. Right, so it's helped me not only optimize my site, it helps me look at my sales trends, it updates my product skills. All the stuff I'm absolutely not an expert in. But it's like having a genius business partner that never sleeps. And right now, the brown Girl grinding storefront and the Black Effect storefront is busy and Shopify is handling all of the heavy lifting. I love that for us. I am pumped, like so pumped that Shopify is going to show up at the Black Effect Podcast festival this year in a big way. And I will be there preaching this platform to all of the small black owned businesses that partner with us. So if you've been sitting on an idea or if you're ready to scale, which you've already started it, this is your sign. Go to shopify.com Ben if I can do it, you can do it too.

DJ Envy (74:45)

Let's get right to the latest with Lauren.

Angela Yee (74:49)

Yeah, I'm not dumbing myself down. I'm being myself. I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything and everybody.

Jess Hilarious (74:59)

Little brown girls look at you and go.

Charlamagne Tha God (75:01)

I want to be like you.

Angela Yee (75:02)

Take me to that. Take me to that.

Pastor Torre Roberts (75:05)

The latest with Lauren

Charlamagne Tha God (75:08)

on the Breakfast Club. Ll cool talk to me. That's right, Lauren. Let's see if you flowing in your knowing. And I'm glad you just wiped your camera cuz I was about to tell you you look a little more dusty than usual.

DJ Envy (75:18)

Yeah, stay focused, Lauren.

Jess Hilarious (75:21)

Stay focused.

DJ Envy (75:22)

Stay focused. Laura, you're being honest today.

Angela Yee (75:24)

I was going to look out for you.

DJ Envy (75:25)

Stay focused.

Angela Yee (75:26)

Listen, I was going to tell you to do it.

Mouse (75:28)

Laura.

Jess Hilarious (75:28)

I already texted and told her off air.

Angela Yee (75:30)

Jesus is in the room. Pastor Terra. Just pray for us. I will not let thy devil level. So in the latest you a lot

DJ Envy (75:38)

of things but you ain't dusty. So let's go.

Charlamagne Tha God (75:40)

Exactly.

Angela Yee (75:40)

Ain't nothing dusty but flowing your no low over there in Versus world. We're going to continue the conversation. It was announced yesterday that French Montana and Rick Ross will be the next Versus going down in LA at the Apple Music Studios. This is going to take place on May 7th. Now Rick Ross and French Montana, we know they have some hits together. So I think it'll be interesting to see kind of how they divide up the music. But you know, people have already been debating who they think will take home the win as they do anytime a Versus is announced. I've seen people talking about they think that this will be super easy for Rick Ross. And then I've seen people reminding people of French Montana's anthems as well too.

Charlamagne Tha God (76:16)

Yeah, Ross did it. Ross did it with two chains already. But yeah, I definitely think Ross can go into much, much deeper waters than French. French do got a handful of hits, but Ross can go into much, much deeper waters. Plus also, why this matchup? How did this matchup?

DJ Envy (76:33)

It doesn't even sound right.

Angela Yee (76:34)

Yeah, I thought it was random too. I, I know they both got cataloged, but I, I was like, how?

Charlamagne Tha God (76:38)

Respectfully, French don't have the catalog as Rick Ross. It's just not even close. To be honest with not in my personal opinion.

Jess Hilarious (76:44)

French got bops, but he got unforgettable pop that.

Angela Yee (76:47)

No, stop. But it's not, it's a little different than the, the key anthems that were brought on and how deep seated those are.

DJ Envy (76:53)

I agree French has a lot of core fans that love him from the beginning, but when it comes to national success, it's going to be a tough one for French.

Charlamagne Tha God (77:02)

But I will say this catalog Deep.

DJ Envy (77:04)

It just doesn't make sense. And then since they both beefing with Drake, do. Do they take out the Drake records?

Angela Yee (77:09)

French Montana. French Montana said that Drake. Well, they. There was a whole allegation of Drake sending him the cease and desist. Y' all remember that conversation? He didn't really want to get into it when he was with us on the Breakfast Club, but. And then, you know, Rick Ross has his issues as well, too. Remember Champagne Drizzy or BBL Drizzy?

Charlamagne Tha God (77:26)

I just don't see Ross and French on the same musical level, guys. I just don't.

DJ Envy (77:30)

It does not make sense.

Jess Hilarious (77:31)

You said they got songs together. Why is it just not gonna be a show? Like, it could just be.

DJ Envy (77:36)

That's pretty much what it is.

Angela Yee (77:41)

Yeah.

Jess Hilarious (77:41)

That's what I'm saying.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (77:44)

I know.

Jess Hilarious (77:44)

That's what I'm saying,

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (77:47)

though.

Angela Yee (77:47)

You have Unforgettable. That's huge, right?

Jess Hilarious (77:49)

Absolutely.

Angela Yee (77:50)

But you got like. I mean, Shot Caller. I feel like that's a very, like, French Montana fan record. Like, I don't know if that's going to be as big as like a Aston Martin music or a BMF or like blowing money fast.

Charlamagne Tha God (77:59)

Like, I'm saying, I can see French running out of ammo and have to start throwing bottles. But you know, Ross gonna keep coming with missile after missile after.

DJ Envy (78:08)

You got shot caller. You got pop that. You got the freaks Jack record with Nicky. You got Ain't worried about nothing. You got.

Angela Yee (78:13)

Yeah.

Jess Hilarious (78:13)

Oh, yeah, yeah.

DJ Envy (78:14)

Stop. Stylist. What's that? The no shopping with Drake. Then you got the other record with Drake. Then you got Unforgettable. You got the new joint.

Jess Hilarious (78:22)

We count. Yeah.

Charlamagne Tha God (78:23)

His new.

Jess Hilarious (78:24)

New stuff with Max B. Yeah.

DJ Envy (78:25)

So no stylist. So those are the joints now.

Charlamagne Tha God (78:29)

Reed Ross got too many records hustling

Angela Yee (78:33)

Aston Martin music, blowing money fast. Stay scheming. Well, that's. We talked about that. Mayback, San Serena, Greece. I'm not a star. Like. Yeah, so we'll see what happens. It will be streaming live on Apple Music.

Charlamagne Tha God (78:46)

You can go into deep cuts like Freemason. Like, it's too much the Fab and French.

DJ Envy (78:51)

What's the new year? What's the New Year's record?

Charlamagne Tha God (78:57)

Different. I know. You know, people don't like to bring Ros up in certain conversations, man. But Ros musically is a very, very, very different animal. That's all. I'm simply saying. Okay, if you got. How many records they doing? 10 or 20? 20.

Angela Yee (79:09)

10.

Charlamagne Tha God (79:10)

Okay. If they're doing 10, it's a little. It's a lot more competitive.

Pastor Torre Roberts (79:13)

Yes.

Charlamagne Tha God (79:13)

If they're going 10 for 10, it could be a lot more competitive. But I still got wrong.

DJ Envy (79:16)

French got a strong 10.

Charlamagne Tha God (79:17)

Yeah, French got French. French. Hey. He might start throwing bottles after about seven, eight. But I still. I still. I still got. That was crazy what she said. That was crazy what she said. I don't even want to play. I was being serious. And here you go. I'm not even going. That was crazy.

Angela Yee (79:31)

Oh, I thought about the birthday video.

Charlamagne Tha God (79:33)

I got Ross, though.

DJ Envy (79:34)

Yeah.

Charlamagne Tha God (79:35)

I got friends.

Angela Yee (79:36)

All right, now us.

DJ Envy (79:40)

I am a ridiculous New Yorker. God damn right. Yes, I know.

Angela Yee (79:46)

That's right. Ride for your people, gang. All right, so should we. Can I do another one or should we wrap it?

Charlamagne Tha God (79:52)

Go ahead.

Angela Yee (79:52)

All right. So speaking of stages, Sinbad yesterday, you know that it's been years, almost five years or a little over five years since he's been on the stage following the massive stroke that he had in 2020.

Jess Hilarious (80:03)

Yes.

Angela Yee (80:03)

He announced his return. Let's take a listen.

DJ Envy (80:05)

This is Sinbad. I haven't talked much on social media. All y' all been doing that social media thing, man, we ain't gonna be ex on stage. I can't walk. Since the stroke in 2020, I have not been on stage. I'm gonna get my feet wet. April 29, May 10 at the Combi Ice House in Pasadena, California. Just the beginning. I want to thank everybody who bought tickets. I think it's already sold out.

Pastor Torre Roberts (80:29)

Wow.

DJ Envy (80:29)

I'm so looking forward to these shows. I got so much stuff to talk about. I'm talking more trash. And Avatar, I got two very funny people. For me, it's my daughter, Paige Bryant, and that's the first time we worked together as comics. On stage, she talked more trash than I talk. Also, comedian Chase Anthony, who's open fit for me for the last couple years. I thank you for all the prayers that people pray for me.

Pastor Torre Roberts (80:52)

It works.

Charlamagne Tha God (80:54)

Number respect for Sinbad, man.

DJ Envy (80:55)

To the OG Sin bad man.

Jess Hilarious (80:57)

Salute to my TV God Dad. He was my. My. He played my godf on the Fox sitcom rail that I did years ago.

DJ Envy (81:04)

Sinbad used to listen to the show all the time. He says he has nothing but love and respect. Every time I run into Sinbad with brother Mark, and he said that when he came to the show, he said the Breakfast Club opened him up to a younger audience that really started supporting him. So salute to Sinbad.

Charlamagne Tha God (81:18)

And I know people probably hear that promo and they was like, yo, he still don't sound like he's ready to be on stage yet. But you never know, man. Going out there might help in his healing process. It does.

Angela Yee (81:26)

I mean, when. When my mom was going through her stroke recovery, one of the things the doctors told me was let her go do things that she loves to do, monitor, but let her do it. And it'll help with the memory. It'll help with her. Her. Her cognitive, like, different muscles, like just different things that your body naturally will need to get back to. So it could be. It could be a healing thing for him as well.

DJ Envy (81:43)

Yeah, yeah.

Angela Yee (81:45)

So looking out for that as well. And that is the latest for the hour.

DJ Envy (81:48)

All right, Charlemagne, who you giving that down too?

Charlamagne Tha God (81:50)

Man 4 After the hour. I need a South Carolina lieutenant governor having a Pamela Ebott to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like to have a word with her this morning, please.

DJ Envy (81:56)

All right, we'll get to that. Next, it's the breakfast club. Good morning.

Charlamagne Tha God (82:02)

You are a donkey. It's time for donkey of the day. Donkey of the day does not discriminate. I might not have the song of

DJ Envy (82:11)

the day, but I got the donkey today.

Charlamagne Tha God (82:12)

So if you ever feel I need

DJ Envy (82:14)

to be a donkey man, hit it

Charlamagne Tha God (82:15)

with the he a breakfast club.

DJ Envy (82:18)

Who's donkey of the day today?

Charlamagne Tha God (82:20)

Well, at Sharon Donkey Today for Thursday, April 30th goes the Lieutenant Governor Pamela Evitz of South Carolina dropping the clues bombs from my home state of South Carolina. Okay, 843-803864 all day now, if you haven't heard, Lieutenant Governor Pamela Evatt was scheduled to be the commencement speaker at South Carolina State University. Drop one of clues bombs for S.C. state University. Damn it. My mother graduated from S.C. state State University, class of 1975. Okay? I also have an honorary degree from S.C. state University. So this one. This one hits a little different. I'll come over there and punch you in the face.

DJ Envy (82:51)

Sorry, sorry.

Charlamagne Tha God (82:52)

I'll get Beijing all over my knuckles right now. Okay, now. Now, as I said, Pamela Evbott was scheduled to be the commencement speaker at SC State University. Okay, bought the students of. But the sec. She was scheduled to be the commencement speaker of SC State University. But the students of SC State University said, man, watch out. Okay, let's go to CBS10 for the report, please.

Angela Yee (83:15)

Well, honestly, she just doesn't align with our values here at South Carolina State University. She speaks against dei, which every hbcu, honestly, every school benefits from student government leaders and seniors saying their concerns focus on whether the speaker reflects the values of the university community. Students say commencement should be about a moment that reflects their experience and their future. During a press conference Wednesday morning, Lt. Gov. Pamela Yvette said she was invited months

Mimi Brown (83:44)

ago and plans to deliver a positive message.

Jess Hilarious (83:47)

The college called and asked if I

Angela Yee (83:50)

would be their commencement speaker and was

Charlamagne Tha God (83:52)

happy to do that.

Angela Yee (83:53)

I'm always happy to share a positive message. She also called to end diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Mimi Brown (83:59)

But she also pushed back on criticism,

Angela Yee (84:02)

pointing to what she calls a broader issue on college campuses.

Jess Hilarious (84:05)

We have to get rid of DEI on college campuses. We've got to get rid of indoctrination by professors on college campuses by ending tenure.

Charlamagne Tha God (84:18)

She's no longer the commencement speaker, and I have zero problem with this. Okay? Why? Because Commencement day should be all about the students. Okay? That's what commencement ceremonies are for, to celebrate the. The students, their accomplishment of graduating. It's about reflection for the students, closure for the students, and most importantly, recognition of their academic journey. Okay? Commencement ceremonies honor the hard work of students, the personal sacrifices of students, and the achievements of the students who are now graduates. And it's also an opportunity for families and loved ones to share in the pride of the moment. That moment does not need to be overshadowed by someone who is in opposition to the value values that these students believe in. Okay? Lieutenant Governor. Lieutenant Governor Pamela Evatt has publicly opposed DEI programs. That's her right as an American. But who in the hell would invite someone who is against DEI to speak at an hbcu? Okay, Pamela, I don't know if you know, but when the Trump administration attacks DEI, they are attacking HBCUs and HBCU students as well, okay? Because without DEI, HBCUs aren't in shape, assured funding for infrastructure and student programs, their access to top employers are halted. Basically, DEI initiatives help, you know, close these gaps that exist in regards to access to opportunities for these black students, not to mention they combat systemic racism in hiring and education. All that progress black people have made rolled back because of your boy. And you are in public opposition to DEI programs, okay, that attack HBCUs. But you want to come speak at an HBCU? That makes no sense to me. Also, South Carolina State University President Alexander Conyers. Why would y' all want that? Okay, like, her views don't politically align with the school's history. They don't align with S.C. state's mission. They don't align with the history of Orangeburg. Do I have to remind you of February 8, 1968, when students from S.C. state and Clapton were protesting segregation? And after days of demonstration, law enforcement confronted those Students and let off shots, opened fire on a bunch of unarmed students. The Orangeburg massacre. Those protests were organized by S.C. state students. Okay. The confrontation happened near the campus grounds. Okay. Samuel Hammond Jr. Who was killed, was an S.C. state student. Henry Smith, who was killed, was an SC State student. Rest in peace. To Delano Middleton as well. I think he was in high school at the time, but dozens of S.C. state and Claflin students were injured. Okay. The same spirit of the those kids who are out there protesting segregation in 68. That was the same spirit that we saw the past couple of days protesting against Lt. Governor Pamela Evatt in 2026. Maybe that's what President Conyers was trying to say when he was speaking yesterday because he seemed to be concerned about how the students of S.C. state would be perceived. Let's listen. We can't pull back what's out on social media.

State Farm Announcer (87:10)

We can't pull back what people think think.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (87:13)

But I certainly don't want people to think that the students here at South

State Farm Announcer (87:17)

Carolina State University, future educators, doctors, lawyers,

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (87:21)

attorneys, scientists, business owners, are thugs.

Charlamagne Tha God (87:26)

I've made the decision to rescind the

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (87:29)

invitation to the Lieutenant governor to speak at your commencement.

Charlamagne Tha God (87:34)

In light of the history in Orangeburg, I can understand the trauma that he may be feeling. I don't want to speak for him, but it sounds like something like the Orangeburg maybe massacre is in the back of his mind. But let the record show protesting is not an act of terrorism. Okay. But rather a constitutional right. Those kids at S.C. state exercise their right to peacefully protest. So anyone who looks at those kids as thugs, that says more about them than it does those kids. Those are probably the same people who called January 6th insurrection as patriots. But call a bunch of young black men and women at S.C. state University protesting thugs in a woke mouth mob. Oh, yes. Pamela Evatt called him a woke mob. Let's listen.

Mimi Brown (88:12)

Well, I was at the White House today.

Jess Hilarious (88:14)

I heard about what's happening on the campus of S.C. state University.

Angela Yee (88:17)

Let's be clear.

Jess Hilarious (88:19)

Facts trump feelings. In the real world, President Trump and conservatives have done more for HBCUs than any administration in history. I must be doing something right because woke mobs are coming after me for being a champion of eliminating radical DEI scams on college campuses. So bring it on. Just like President Trump, I'll never back down or bend a knee to the woke radicals. I'm ending de high on campuses once and for all.

Charlamagne Tha God (88:46)

Oh, the Hellmans was heavy in that statement. Wipe the mayonnaise off your fingers. Okay? All she Proved to me with that statement is that South Carolina State University made the absolute wrong choice to have her as the commencement speaker. But the absolute right choice choice in removing her. Okay. Those young men and women at S.C. state were a hundred percent correct in their right to protest. They have the right to say who gets to represent their HBCU on its biggest stage. Now, SC State, if you are looking for a new commencement speaker, look no further than one of your own right there on campus. Nakira Marie, I believe that's her name. I watched this clip of her speaking like about four times yesterday. Let's listen. Listen.

Angela Yee (89:27)

I want to be clear about this. This is not a black and white issue. This isn't a political issue. It's not a Democratic or Republican party issue. It's not about that. It's a morality issue. We're here, we've been here for four or five years. Commencement. We should have someone who's going to celebrate us. How can someone who goes against everything that we stand for and believe in morality wise. How can that person uplift me?

Jess Hilarious (89:51)

Stepping into the real world world.

Angela Yee (89:53)

How, how can I? I don't feel supported. I, I, it's nothing that she can say that will make me feel encouraged to step out into this society, a society where the, the, the America and the country that I believe in. She don't have that same agenda. And I want to say something. Being conservative is not the issue. That's all right. We all have our own political but she, she's explicitly said I am a Trump concern. Okay. If you believe in Trump, you support pedophilia. William, you support bigotry, you support racism. What else? Pro police. The same police that's killing our people. The same. And also she also supports ice. We don't believe in that.

Jess Hilarious (90:31)

South Carolina State has a history of

Angela Yee (90:34)

being activist and being proactive and standing up and believing in what's right.

Charlamagne Tha God (90:39)

SSC State, if you're looking for a commencement speaker, there she go. Kira Marie dropping a Cleveland miles from the Kira Marie. Okay.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (90:46)

Yep.

Charlamagne Tha God (90:47)

Pamela Evan, if you had no idea why they didn't want you there, she just told you. Okay. Also, you can't refer to your critics as a woke mob and double down on your positions because all you did was further alienate students and you reinforce their concerns. And guess what? Concerns when managed effectively turn into actionable steps. And the students of S.C. state respectfully manage their concerns. And they told you to get to steppin'. Please let Chelsea Handler give South Carolina Lieutenant Governor Pamela Evitt the biggest hee haw Mm.

Jess Hilarious (91:19)

Hee haw. Hee haw. That is way too much, Dan Mayonnaise.

Charlamagne Tha God (91:22)

Mm. Drop on the clues, monster. SC State again, dammit. Okay.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (91:26)

Mm.

Charlamagne Tha God (91:28)

And you gonna respect my honorary degree from S.C. state, you hear me?

DJ Envy (91:31)

I didn't mean to chuckle.

Charlamagne Tha God (91:31)

Okay.

DJ Envy (91:32)

I didn't mean to laugh out loud.

Charlamagne Tha God (91:33)

Cause you got a real degree. I do, and it means nothing. My honorary degree means a lot.

DJ Envy (91:40)

That means nothing in my degree. No, you did.

Charlamagne Tha God (91:42)

You worked for yours.

Mouse (91:43)

That's right.

Charlamagne Tha God (91:44)

How did you feel at your commencement ceremony? Envy.

DJ Envy (91:47)

How did I feel?

Charlamagne Tha God (91:47)

Yes. How did you feel? Like, who did you.

DJ Envy (91:52)

I don't remember. I remember a couple of years before they had Bush and everybody was upset about that. Like, why the hell you would bring Bush on this campus to speak? We've had Hillary Rodham.

Charlamagne Tha God (92:01)

Oh, so y' all didn't protest? So y' all didn't have the revolutionary spirit of the kids at South Carolina State University?

Jess Hilarious (92:06)

She was talking her talk.

Charlamagne Tha God (92:07)

But you don't really care. Cause you Dominican.

DJ Envy (92:09)

We did protest.

Charlamagne Tha God (92:09)

No, you did.

DJ Envy (92:10)

Yes, they did. They did protest. But I mean, at the time, the president at the time, that that's what was happening. And he kind of did what he wanted to do so that that's what was happening.

Charlamagne Tha God (92:19)

Y' all ain't protest hard enough.

DJ Envy (92:20)

Then we had Barack Obama after that. Okay, yeah. So.

Charlamagne Tha God (92:23)

No. Who spoke at yours, though?

DJ Envy (92:25)

I can't remember who spoke at mine.

Charlamagne Tha God (92:26)

Man, that poor person.

DJ Envy (92:28)

I can't smoke.

Jess Hilarious (92:28)

Was you high? Like you don't know. What was you doing?

DJ Envy (92:31)

I was happy to graduate.

Jess Hilarious (92:32)

Drinking.

DJ Envy (92:33)

I was happy to graduate.

Jess Hilarious (92:35)

Okay.

DJ Envy (92:36)

That's what it was. And I didn't graduate in my year. I graduated a semester after, so.

Charlamagne Tha God (92:39)

But commencement ceremonies are for the stage students.

DJ Envy (92:41)

Yes, they are. Absolutely.

Charlamagne Tha God (92:42)

Even if they don't remember who their commencement speakers are.

Jess Hilarious (92:44)

Yeah, because you're supposed to remember. Yes, if I went to college, I would have remembered.

Charlamagne Tha God (92:48)

You don't remember who spoke at BMCC when you graduated?

Jess Hilarious (92:50)

Ain't no bmcc, yo. No, it was cbcc. Community College of Baltimore City.

Charlamagne Tha God (92:57)

There you go.

Jess Hilarious (92:58)

Rome went to Baltimore City.

Charlamagne Tha God (93:00)

Speaker. That's crazy. How was her baby daddy, the commencement speaker?

Jess Hilarious (93:04)

No, he wasn't.

Charlamagne Tha God (93:05)

College graduation?

Jess Hilarious (93:06)

No, Rome before Rome went to Morgan State University. He went to BCCC and I went to ccbc. They was both community colleges. But BCCC is like a nicer, like, you know, a better community college.

Charlamagne Tha God (93:17)

That sounds like something I gotta take for my cholesterol.

DJ Envy (93:19)

Bcct.

Charlamagne Tha God (93:20)

Yes, that and some statin.

Jess Hilarious (93:22)

Whatever.

DJ Envy (93:23)

Anyway. Oh, my goodness. All right, well, thank you for that donkey today. Now when we come back, just fix my mess. 800-585-1051. You know, her book is out right now.

Charlamagne Tha God (93:33)

Tell death do we parent till death do we parent.

DJ Envy (93:35)

So if you need some relationship issues, if you're having some co parenting issues in your life and she can help you out, she has a book she wrote about it. And she will help you with your problems. So call up right now. 800-585-1051 is the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Charlamagne Tha God (93:46)

X about me.

Jess Hilarious (93:47)

Relationship problems.

Charlamagne Tha God (93:48)

X about me.

Jess Hilarious (93:49)

You need to beat your co worker's ass.

Charlamagne Tha God (93:51)

Ask about me.

Jess Hilarious (93:52)

Your co worker need to beat your ass. Call it up. It's Dr. Jess, and I'm here to fix your mess. Fix your mess. It's getting very much messy. Let me fix it.

DJ Envy (94:01)

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Jess. Hilarious Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. We have Michelle on the line. Michelle, good morning.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (94:08)

Good morning. How are you this morning?

Jess Hilarious (94:10)

I'm good.

DJ Envy (94:10)

What's your question for Jess?

Angela Yee (94:12)

To be honest, I just don't know

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (94:14)

where to start with even co parenting.

Jess Hilarious (94:17)

What is a few tips to even

Angela Yee (94:19)

start co parenting with somebody who's been cheating on you for years and disrespecting you.

Jess Hilarious (94:24)

Are you looking to still be with that person or are you trying to walk away? Get.

Charlamagne Tha God (94:29)

Get.

Jess Hilarious (94:29)

You know.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (94:29)

No, I'm trying to walk away.

Angela Yee (94:32)

I think it's time to walk away.

Jess Hilarious (94:34)

Yeah. Okay. So you're in a relationship currently and you want to end it. You want to walk away? Because I was gonna say, are y' all broken up yet or are you still in it?

Charlamagne Tha God (94:41)

And you. You.

Jess Hilarious (94:42)

You feel like you need to leave.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (94:43)

We're basically broken up. I told him this past weekend, I'm done.

Angela Yee (94:48)

After the years of infidelity and lying and gaslighting and we have a.

Jess Hilarious (94:53)

We have a 21 month old. Yeah, I know that hurts. And the feelings are fresh, but you're still in it. You know, you just over the weekend decided that you can't take it anymore. So that's. That that's gonna be. That's gonna take time. Cause you're still in it. And I write about this in a book early the early years, when me and. Me and my son's father, Jerome, was raising our son, I was trying to show up to be the bitter parent. I mean, like my bitter. Like I was trying to be a bitter baby mom and then show up as the best parent. There's no way. Your baby is way too young. There's no way that you can do that because it. It's not going to affect anyone ultimately but the kid. Like, you know what I mean? And right now, that baby's so young. The baby needs nothing but love. Needs to be surrounded by nothing but pure love, affection, you know, just good vibes. Because it's a lot going on in the world, but you are, like, in it right now. So you're. I know you're at the point where you see no way out, but you have to do what you got to do for you. And you have to. To still communicate with him because the baby is so young, but you have to take your feelings out of it. It seems like the hardest thing to do, but you gotta change your mindset because what I'm hearing is he. He knows what to tell you. He knows what to say to get you back and to get him back in your good graces and everything. And then you fall for it. And you sound like you've. It's a pattern. Like you've fallen for his crap over and over again.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (96:17)

Exactly.

Jess Hilarious (96:18)

Yeah. No, but. But you sound pretty fed up. You sound like you on you. You off to a good start, you know? But don'. Don't move with, like, bruised ego. Don't move. It's okay to be bitter, but don't stay there. You know what I'm saying? And don't communicate with him that way. Rise above that. You can have your own feelings and the comfort of your own home by yourself. You know what I'm saying? But don't. Amen. Yeah. Yes. Don't be angry at him. Like, don't talk to him. Don't talk down to him. Don't talk. Talk bad about him around the baby. None of that. Because you know he's gonna feel it much more, much worse than you. Focus on yourself. Love yourself. Love that baby.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (97:01)

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Jess Hilarious (97:03)

Absolutely. But you got.

Angela Yee (97:04)

It's gonna be hard, girl, because you

Jess Hilarious (97:06)

just left over the weekend. So next weekend you might be a little horny and be like, look, I want to call my baby daddy. No, don't do it. Because that's the first thing that we gotta stop doing. We gotta stop sleeping with them.

Angela Yee (97:14)

That.

Jess Hilarious (97:14)

That helps you. You. That helps you with your feelings.

Angela Yee (97:17)

Don't worry, I'm good in that department. I'm okay.

Jess Hilarious (97:20)

Okay. I have to worry about that. I'm gonna call you.

Angela Yee (97:23)

I'm gonna call you next time if I need any advice.

Jess Hilarious (97:26)

I don't care how many times you call me. Shut up, boy.

DJ Envy (97:30)

I'm not.

Jess Hilarious (97:30)

She's not talking about that. She's not even gay, and I'm not gay no more like that. All right? So no. Yes, you can. I don't care how many times you got to call me if you got. If I gotta be your. Your control factor, your mentor. Yes.

Charlamagne Tha God (97:42)

Don't go back, girl.

Jess Hilarious (97:43)

Call me every time. I know. Y.

Angela Yee (97:45)

Thank you. Thank you.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (97:46)

I appreciate it.

Jess Hilarious (97:47)

No problem, babe.

DJ Envy (97:48)

In the middle of. Just fix my mess. Hello? Who's this?

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (97:52)

It's Brandon.

DJ Envy (97:53)

Brandon, what's your question for Jess, bro?

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (97:55)

Oh, man, I just want to say, yo, I am a big fan of the show. I love you guys. Y' all been, you know, like, a big part of my life. Big motivation to my podcast I have going on called the Baby Daddy Podcast, and I really do appreciate the work that y' all done for the community and stuff like that. I'm, like, actually real nervous right now.

Charlamagne Tha God (98:13)

Make sure to give me your info. I want. I want to. You should book a brother named Rome to be a guest on your Baby Daddy Podcast.

Jess Hilarious (98:19)

You know what? Whatever.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (98:22)

Shout out to your guy. I appreciate, yo, for real. I just wanted to just know. I'm a big fan of hers. I love you so much, Jeff. You are like, like, legit, man. You know, there's a lot of comedians out there who aren't really real about what they do or saying, hey, and you are one of them, man. So I really appreciate. I really appreciate everything that you do.

Jess Hilarious (98:42)

Thank you so much. I appreciate that. What's the issue that you dealing with? What you need?

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (98:47)

All right, so me and my girlfriend. My ex girlfriend at the moment, we've been on and off for five years.

Jess Hilarious (98:53)

Okay.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (98:53)

And we recently just broke up again. But I feel like every time we break up, it's been over something that I couldn't control. Like, first time we broke up, I'm not even gonna lie, she ended up finding out that I had a kid that I didn't tell her about.

Jess Hilarious (99:07)

Oh, my God.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (99:08)

And that kind of, like, blew up the spot, you know? And we were apart for about, like, a year, and then we got back together just to find out that while we're broken up, I had got another girl pregnant.

Charlamagne Tha God (99:20)

Oh.

Jess Hilarious (99:21)

Oh, yeah. So you know what? Rome would be the. The great.

Angela Yee (99:25)

The.

Jess Hilarious (99:25)

The greatest guest that she would have.

Charlamagne Tha God (99:26)

They would bond.

Jess Hilarious (99:27)

Absolutely. Yes. Because that happened to me. I talk about that the. At my book, Till Death do We Parent, which I hope you're ordering, because it sound like you going to need a lot of. A lot of advice on how to

Charlamagne Tha God (99:38)

raise on my Spotify, right?

Jess Hilarious (99:41)

Now, all right, so your question to me is, how do you get her back? Your girlfriend of five years that you cheated on a lot of times and had a lot of babies with. I mean, had a lot of.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (99:49)

Yeah, we ended up getting back together, but now we broke up for something small. I ended up talking to her brother, ex girlfriend, while we were breaking up just to be spiteful. We never did anything. It was just basically to keep tabs on what the hell she got going on.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (100:05)

You know what I'm saying?

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (100:05)

I'm like, yo, she. She hate the family just as much as I hate the family. Because, yeah, he ended up getting kicked out of family. This is the same, you know. Okay, So I was just trying to keep tabs with her, but I guess apparently she's telling. She came out and told her that me and her have sex and stuff like that, which wasn't true.

Jess Hilarious (100:23)

Well, that's a little hard to believe. You're not really the most credible person, you know, I would believe even if I was hers.

Charlamagne Tha God (100:28)

Yeah.

DJ Envy (100:28)

Yeah.

Charlamagne Tha God (100:30)

And I get that too.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (100:31)

Yeah. With the kids and stuff like that, you know, and it's just that this, you know, time around, we've always had to deal with something, like, more serious every time we got back together. This time we had to deal with a pregnancy scare that, you know, that was very drastic and stuff like that. You know, we're talking about marriage and. And then this little rumor come out, and it just kind of blew up the spot. And I understand that, you know, she's. She has no faith in me and

Jess Hilarious (100:54)

stuff like that, because you got to think about it. And her. Her mindset right now is. Is. Is it worth it? Is it worth it? You got to think about all the times that she did take you back, all the times that you hurt her and you did whatever you had to do to get back to get her back. But you got to think about it.

Mimi Brown (101:11)

This is a.

Jess Hilarious (101:11)

You know, it's five years on and off, but, like, that's still a long time. And that's five years that she may have felt like sometimes she wasted of her life dealing with. With dealing with you. You have a lot of toxicity, you know, a lot of toxic ways and a lot of dysfunction going on because. Because the ex. Her brother's ex girlfriend that you talk to just to keep tabs do you know, there are so many other ways that you can keep tab tabs on your ex. You don't. You don't have to go that route. So I am with her. I totally believe that. Y' all that that is, that was not the only agenda you had. I believe that you did it to be spiteful. I do believe it went far. And maybe you did sleep with that girl. However, I think you should take this, this moment right now and just show her changed behavior. I don't think you should try to talk her into getting her back. I don't think you should try to stalk her to get her back. I don't think you should try. No, I think you should let her have her time, let her come back to you on her own. But the best apology is changed behavior. That's what it is. You got to just show her that you changed. Like that's just what it is. But you, you, you got to get yourself together. I think you shouldn't even be in a relationship. You shouldn't be worrying about knocking nobody down. You got a lot of little kids out here, you know what I'm saying? You in a running to be the next Rome. No. That's why you need to read the book. But I think you should take time to spend with yourself. You gotta love on yourself, King. You can't keep planting seeds and seeking comfort under the sheets with other women if you got one woman in mind. And you gotta do the work on yourself to love her properly. You get what I'm saying?

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (102:43)

Yeah, a lot of times I spend. I don't really have a lot of friends up here. I moved to Ohio back in 2019. My kids and stuff like that. I don't got a lot of friends, people to talk to. So I talk to my. I tend to talk to myself a lot. And that's one of the things, you know, I actually kind of like, you know, talked about me having to just change myself.

Jess Hilarious (103:00)

Yeah.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (103:00)

I feel like every time that we do break up though, I've. I've changed and changed more and more.

Jess Hilarious (103:05)

Yeah.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (103:06)

You know, but.

Jess Hilarious (103:07)

And that may be true. I'm not saying I don't believe you, that that may be true. You know, you sound like a level headed young man, but you, you also sound like you're aware. So I thank you for being honest, you know, and not holding back. You know what I mean? Because you could have lied to me, I would have found out you was lying. But I, I appreciate you being 100% honest. But that silence is not bad. The silence is not bad. That just means that you gotta sit and confront everything. All the noise that you need to work through to be a better person, you know, for her or not. Even, even if it's not for her, for yourself. So you can date intentionally, you know?

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (103:42)

Yeah, definitely.

Jess Hilarious (103:44)

Yeah, Give her some time.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (103:48)

Appreciate it. Michaela, I love you. I'm just gonna give her a shout out right here, but, you know, shout out to you. I love you so much.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (103:57)

I love all my babies.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (103:58)

Malik, Miles, Taya, I love you guys. Y' all mean the world to me. And, you know, like I said again, shout out to the Breakfast Club. I love you guys. Check out my podcast. The Baby Daddy Podcast.

Jess Hilarious (104:08)

The Baby Daddy podcast. You better. You know what? Now I'm gonna check it out. You better be speaking some podcast positivity and, you know, trying to change patterns.

Charlamagne Tha God (104:20)

I've been low.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (104:20)

I've been a little depressed lately, so I haven't been really dropping any episodes. It's kind of hard to try to speak your mind when you got a lot of stuff on it.

Jess Hilarious (104:27)

It's okay. But you know what? That's why you have a podcast. This is the perfect time to do it. You. You speak your real feelings, and I'm telling you, somebody out there is going to be able to relate to it. Then you can bring experts on. You can bring other baby daddies on that can tell their side and y' all can try to figure out this. This dysfunction and toxicity y' all got together so y' all can be better men for yourselves and these women that y' all seeking to be with.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (104:50)

Oh, yeah.

Angela Yee (104:50)

Yes.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (104:51)

I appreciate it, Justin.

Jess Hilarious (104:52)

Absolutely.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (104:53)

Thank you, mv. Thank you, Charlamagne. I love you guys so freaking much.

Jess Hilarious (104:57)

No problem. Love you too, King.

DJ Envy (104:58)

Just fix my mess. 800-585-1051. Don't forget, make sure you pick up a book.

Jess Hilarious (105:04)

So deaf do we parent raise a my kid with his dad, y'.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (105:07)

All.

DJ Envy (105:08)

That's right.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (105:08)

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DJ Envy (106:08)

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Charlamagne Tha God (109:14)

All.

Angela Yee (109:15)

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DJ Envy (109:59)

Let's get right to the latest with

Jess Hilarious (110:00)

Lauren becoming a street fan.

Charlamagne Tha God (110:04)

She gets him from somebody that knows somebody some details.

Angela Yee (110:07)

I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything and everybody.

Charlamagne Tha God (110:10)

She be having the latest on the Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes she have a little bit everything. Well, it's the latest brought to you by Top Dog Law on the Breakfast Club. Talk to me. We got to get another angle for our good for. For my. For my good niece Lauren LaRosa. Cuz that looks crazy.

DJ Envy (110:29)

What's that?

Charlamagne Tha God (110:29)

It look like she auditioning for the ET reboot. Or something. Oh, wow.

Jess Hilarious (110:32)

Yo, her head does not look that big.

Angela Yee (110:40)

So lucky you sit behind that table when they can't see them hips. Leave my head alone, okay? You talking about big and thick, baby.

DJ Envy (110:49)

Your head is not that big. It's not that big.

Angela Yee (110:50)

I'm not worried about him. Ain't nothing big. But continue on birthday in the doughboy. Okay. Me alone. All right.

Jess Hilarious (110:58)

All right.

Charlamagne Tha God (110:59)

I got cake.

Angela Yee (111:00)

You do, baby.

DJ Envy (111:01)

Oh, my goodness. Stay focused.

Angela Yee (111:03)

So TI is suing a. A record label that he has worked with. It's a record label called Sync Music. So this music group, this label bought TI's catalog back in 2017. Now he is suing them because he says that they have refused to honor a contract that promised to let him buy back his same masters at a cheaper price or at a set price price. So basically, TI and this label, they put together this whole, like, way that they would calculate the numbers after a certain amount of years. But now that he's going back to exercise that option, he's saying that they are racking up the price 20 times higher than what it should. It should be. They're asking for close to, like, $50 million. So he is, you know, battling that out right now. He wants to reclaim what was told from him in. To be told to him in the beginning.

Charlamagne Tha God (111:50)

I would. I mean, I don't. I don't know how masters and everything works, clearly, because I would think TI's masters would be worth way more than a few million dollars.

DJ Envy (111:58)

But we don't know how, what percentage of the masses. We don't know what record music. Yeah, we don't know, you know, the details. But if he has it in contract, I'm sure this would be an easy win.

Charlamagne Tha God (112:05)

So.

Angela Yee (112:05)

So according to the contract, so he's saying that they inflated the price to $52 million, but the contract formula that they agreed on in 2017 would value the. The catalog at closer to $3 million. So they would have to sell it at a lower price. So I'm sure, sure, you know, it probably is worth, you know, a bit more than that. But what he's saying is, like, when I did this deal, I set it up in a way which would make sense. And now, because it doesn't make sense for you guys, y' all are trying to act like we didn't have this whole agreement. So they're going to battle it out.

DJ Envy (112:32)

Yeah.

Angela Yee (112:32)

And see what happens. In other news, Billboard, Women in Music. The event went down yesterday. Kiki Palmer hosted it. Kehlani was honored. Mariah, the Scientist was honored. Kelly Rowland took the stage as honor.

Jess Hilarious (112:45)

Well, too my girl.

Angela Yee (112:46)

Yes. But there were so t. So there were some hiccups. And it wasn't just exclusive to Tiana Taylor and you know, when she got on the stage, but because it also happened with Kelly Rowland. But Tiana Taylor went on stage to accept her award, which was given to her by Dion Warwick. And when she first got on stage, there were. There was an issue on Billboard side. Let's take a listen.

Jess Hilarious (113:07)

Can I get a teleprompt

Charlamagne Tha God (113:10)

ad?

Jess Hilarious (113:10)

My speech is cute.

Angela Yee (113:11)

They gonna pull up this guy give

Jess Hilarious (113:13)

speech where my speech done already messed

Angela Yee (113:15)

up my mic, my ears, all types of stuff. Oh, it says Tiana Taylor. We have no script for you.

DJ Envy (113:21)

Oh, damn.

Angela Yee (113:22)

Anyone exit stage right.

Charlamagne Tha God (113:24)

That's crazy. Oh, damn.

Caller or Guest (e.g., Brandon or Michelle) (113:26)

Yeah.

Charlamagne Tha God (113:26)

So I know Nikki started raising hell backstage.

Angela Yee (113:29)

Okay, now listen.

Charlamagne Tha God (113:31)

That's tiana Mama.

Angela Yee (113:32)

Yes, Ms. Nikki, Siana's mom, who's also her manager. Tiana talks about her mom and her family backstage and how it went down. Let's take a listen to audio number three. Three. To my mother, my mommy, you are my backbone. It was so dope watching you curse them out back there. But I will say I want to thank Billboard for the accountability. I want to thank Billboard for being warm. I want to thank Billboard for coming to the room right away and acknowledging what was done. So I appreciate you, Billboard. Thank you very much.

Charlamagne Tha God (114:01)

Imagine if that was live, that could have been bad. You know what I'm saying? Because nobody gets. Nobody has to deal with the brunt of the embarrassment. But the person on stage see, but you could, you.

Angela Yee (114:09)

You could watch it live on stream online yesterday, like when I had one of our producers watch it, you could watch it on stream. Billboard had to come out and issue an apology because it just looked crazy. And then they brought Tiana Taylor back on stage so she could actually give her award because this was a big award of the night. She won the visionary award. Like she was one of the big talked about awards. So let's take a listen to her actual speech.

Jess Hilarious (114:30)

Thank you to Billboard for this incredible honor.

Angela Yee (114:36)

This year marks 20 years in music for me. And what those 20 years taught me is that purpose doesn't rush. Purpose waits on you to become who you're meant to be. I've always chosen to do things my way. Not because it was easy, but because it was honest. And as women, we are visionaries by nature. We don't wait for permission. We create possibility. So never underestimate a woman with a vision. Because by the time you see it? She's already been building it. Every woman, every young girl will watching,

Pastor Torre Roberts (115:04)

trying to figure it out.

Angela Yee (115:06)

Please, please, please, please. Don't shrink yourself to fit in rooms that were never built for you in mind. Take up space. Be loud about your dreams, even when your voice shakes. Because yes, being different might make people feel uncomfortable, but it's also the very thing that will make you unforgettable.

Charlamagne Tha God (115:25)

Dropping a clue.

Angela Yee (115:28)

Absolutely.

Charlamagne Tha God (115:29)

I forgot to put that SP speech in the Promise.

Jess Hilarious (115:31)

Right.

Charlamagne Tha God (115:31)

Okay.

Jess Hilarious (115:33)

Every word.

Angela Yee (115:34)

I felt that.

Jess Hilarious (115:35)

Yeah.

Angela Yee (115:35)

And I wanted to. As we close out, Jess, I wanted to congratulate you. I know. I heard you guys talk about the top of the show that you hit some of the Amazon's book list at the top of the list. Congratulations to you.

Jess Hilarious (115:45)

Thank you.

Angela Yee (115:46)

I know it's been a fight, girl, but okay.

Charlamagne Tha God (115:49)

Did you see just on Tamron hall yesterday?

Angela Yee (115:51)

I did. And Jess, I thought you did an amazing job.

Jess Hilarious (115:54)

Thank you.

Angela Yee (115:56)

Oh, my God.

Mimi Brown (115:56)

God.

Angela Yee (115:56)

I've. I don't. I've never seen the.

DJ Envy (115:59)

Don't make Jess cry.

Charlamagne Tha God (116:00)

I've never seen Jess. I told Jess yesterday. I've never seen her that mature looking. Her hair looked very mature.

DJ Envy (116:06)

Leave it there.

Charlamagne Tha God (116:06)

She. She sounded very mature.

DJ Envy (116:10)

Leave it there.

Charlamagne Tha God (116:10)

And it makes you wonder, why is she not like that in this room?

Jess Hilarious (116:13)

Excuse me. Because of y'.

Angela Yee (116:15)

All.

Jess Hilarious (116:15)

It's the environment and the people that I work with.

Charlamagne Tha God (116:17)

Cameron Hall. Ratchet ass.

Jess Hilarious (116:18)

She is not ratchet. She wasn't ranching yesterday.

Angela Yee (116:21)

She was. Jess, you were number one on the Parent and Family's best selling Congratulations.

Jess Hilarious (116:27)

And that's what.

Angela Yee (116:27)

What you gave yesterday on Tamarind Hall. When I was watching you, I was like, okay, this is Jessica Robin Moore to Oliver. Okay, Like, I was nervous.

DJ Envy (116:34)

I was nervous. But you pulled it up. I was nervous too.

Charlamagne Tha God (116:37)

Cameron did ask one question that I was like. Now see, that's something I would have asked.

DJ Envy (116:40)

What's that? What's that?

Jess Hilarious (116:42)

Marley is now a year old. She is a year. I saw this clip of you and Marley. She's learning Spanish. Why are you teaching her Spanish? Because she half Mexican, half black. Okay, so it was important that she's

Angela Yee (116:54)

bilingual because of Chris's family.

Jess Hilarious (116:57)

Yes. Let's play it with Marley. Mommy. Mommy. Papi. Papy. Abuelito. Burger.

Pastor Torre Roberts (117:06)

Hamburger.

DJ Envy (117:08)

Taco.

Jess Hilarious (117:14)

She speaks Spanish much better now.

DJ Envy (117:16)

That was her first word.

Jess Hilarious (117:17)

And then that was me teaching her. What you mean that was her first word?

Charlamagne Tha God (117:20)

I don't understand. Why are you teaching her Spanish? Her grandma. It could be Chris. Like, why are you teaching her Spanish?

Jess Hilarious (117:26)

Her first Word was daddy. But whatever it was, it was supposed to been a funny video. I didn't know she was going to pick that. I only know like eight Spanish words. I don't know why she would pick that.

Charlamagne Tha God (117:35)

But just the fact she asked you why. Why are you teaching your daughter Spanish?

Jess Hilarious (117:38)

Then she asked me like, yeah, like I'm not supposed to like, like my

Angela Yee (117:41)

baby just can't be bilingual.

Charlamagne Tha God (117:43)

She didn't know Chris was Mexican cuz he's so tall. So he throws people off when they see him.

Jess Hilarious (117:48)

First of all, he is. He's black and Mexican. Everybody is always looking for a full blown Mexican and it's not happening.

DJ Envy (117:54)

No, he's black. Yes, we joke he's black.

Charlamagne Tha God (117:57)

Oh my God, he's Mexican as well.

Angela Yee (118:01)

He probably there. He don't even like this type of joke.

DJ Envy (118:03)

The latest is brought to you by what?

Angela Yee (118:05)

It's brought to you by Top Dog Law, y'.

Charlamagne Tha God (118:07)

All.

Angela Yee (118:07)

Any accident, big or small, called Top Dog Law.

DJ Envy (118:09)

All right, the mix is up next, y'.

Charlamagne Tha God (118:10)

All.

DJ Envy (118:10)

Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building.

Charlamagne Tha God (118:17)

My favorite capitalist, ladies and gentlemen.

DJ Envy (118:22)

What's up, Mouse?

Charlamagne Tha God (118:23)

Wow, that's the edit we going with.

Mouse (118:29)

Yo, Y don't understand. He really be on my phone talking so crazy about this capitalism.

Charlamagne Tha God (118:35)

You started it.

Mouse (118:37)

I didn't start oh, capitalism stuff. Right, he started it. I had nothing to do with nothing.

Charlamagne Tha God (118:42)

No, we just have healthy conversations about, you know, things like capitalism. That's all. You don't. Mouse, my guy, man, you know know.

DJ Envy (118:48)

How did the conversation come out about before we get into your accomplishment about you being a capitalist.

Mouse (118:52)

I'm not a capitalist.

Charlamagne Tha God (118:54)

Supreme hoodie right now. Repping supreme crazy cuz I have to wear clothes.

Mouse (118:59)

The only way to fight capitalism is to be naked.

Charlamagne Tha God (119:01)

Supreme is. That's what he's saying.

Mouse (119:04)

The only way to fight capitalism is to be naked.

Charlamagne Tha God (119:07)

Butt naked and broke. You got to start your own. You got to start your own community of butt naked and broke people.

Mouse (119:12)

I'm not going to do that. I think to be a little serious for us, I just believe that a lot of people in our community have a fundamental misunderstanding of capitalism versus commerce and currency. People think because you make money that you're obviously a capitalist or instead of realizing you're just a cog in capitalism. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people that claim to be capitalists, you don't have the capital to be a capitalist. Correct. You just have commerce and you have Currency, you know what I'm saying? I just, I'm not, not. I don't believe in capitalism. I think it's, I think it's one of the, probably one of the worst things that's happened to the African American community. And as long as people keep believing that you can somehow work your way out of it and then control it, they're going to keep just being more capitalist made. That's it.

Charlamagne Tha God (120:04)

So what's the alternative like? Because this is the only. Democratic socialism.

Mouse (120:08)

Democrat socialism. That's the only way.

Charlamagne Tha God (120:10)

But in order to. Well, I believe in social media democracy, but to believe in social democracy you have to believe in capitalism. Because you have to operate within a capitalist framework.

Mouse (120:19)

To operate in something doesn't mean you

Pastor Torre Roberts (120:21)

have to agree with it.

Charlamagne Tha God (120:22)

Oh, I agree with that.

Mouse (120:23)

That's where, that's, that's the, that's where typically that's where me and you land.

Pastor Torre Roberts (120:27)

Right?

Mouse (120:28)

Like, okay, we're in a capitalist society. I get that. We have to live.

Jess Hilarious (120:32)

Right.

Charlamagne Tha God (120:33)

But you want state regulations, I want

Mouse (120:35)

state regulations on high taxation on the wealthy.

Charlamagne Tha God (120:38)

You want a strong welfare state, you want the wealth redistributed equally.

Mouse (120:42)

That's all.

Charlamagne Tha God (120:42)

I get it.

Mouse (120:43)

That's all.

Charlamagne Tha God (120:44)

Reduce inequality.

Mouse (120:44)

I don't, I, I just hate the fact that for capitalism to exist one, you have to exploit others. That's where, that's the fundamental part that I stand on.

Charlamagne Tha God (120:54)

So how are you exploiting people at the dead ass?

Mouse (120:56)

I'm not exploiting anybody. Dead Ass comedy show, actually we're empowering them.

Charlamagne Tha God (121:01)

Are you letting everybody in free for free?

Mouse (121:04)

A small donation. Small donation. 45 for the VIP donation. 35. 35 for the regular donation. Once again we just have, we're just sharing the commerce, we're sharing the jersey.

Jess Hilarious (121:24)

Is that your comedy? You take political stance in your comedy?

Mouse (121:28)

I try, you know, I try as a, as a host. I'm somebody that really like, I'm a stand up but I'm a host first, you know what I'm saying? So I really lean into to the hosting. So there's only but so many bits, you know, so many deep political bits you could get off while you're hosting. But yeah, I gotta, I got a few jokes in there. I think more of my political takes are more or less for the podcast space.

Jess Hilarious (121:51)

Gotcha.

Mouse (121:52)

Yeah, so people see that. But yeah, dead ass. We're just there to have a good time. Yeah, capitalists are welcome.

Charlamagne Tha God (121:58)

They have to be, they have to pay for it. Now she want a bunch of butt naked and broke people in the building.

Mouse (122:03)

Once again, I don't know why you keep putting me next to people that butt naked. Put some goddamn clothes on.

Charlamagne Tha God (122:09)

The other thing I love about Mouse, Mouse loves radio. Mouse has a goal and a dream of being on New York radio. And I will not rest until I help him achieve that goal in that dream.

Caller or Guest Speaker (e.g., Derek Johnson or caller) (122:20)

I love it.

Mouse (122:20)

That's funny because you look well rested. You look like your feet have been kicked off.

DJ Envy (122:28)

Has been very better relaxing. When a dead ass comedy show goes down.

Charlamagne Tha God (122:34)

We gonna get mouthed on New York radio at some point, man.

DJ Envy (122:37)

Yes. Yes, we are.

Charlamagne Tha God (122:38)

I'm trying to think of we should be on weekends. Perfect for m. I'm available. I agree. That'd be perfect for my and told coach and the baby like Miles would be perfect for weekends.

Mouse (122:47)

I agree. Also just June 7th for the next Dead ass the comedy show want to book you. I'm saying in front of New York City.

Pastor Torre Roberts (122:53)

So.

Jess Hilarious (122:53)

Okay.

Mouse (122:54)

You know, that way if they don't see you, I'm just black. Hey, I tried, yo.

DJ Envy (122:57)

I love that.

Jess Hilarious (122:57)

And I'm also tell you something else. I didn't know that there was a Brooklyn Improv, so.

Mouse (123:01)

It used to be.

Pastor Torre Roberts (123:02)

Yeah.

Mouse (123:02)

So the Brooklyn Private just turned into Brooklyn Improv. I think for like the last two and a half years. It was the. It was Second City.

Jess Hilarious (123:09)

Okay, yeah, it was Second City, but

Mouse (123:12)

now it's the improv dope.

Jess Hilarious (123:13)

Okay, I gotta swing past. But no, June 7th. All right, that's manifested. You gonna book me? That's cool. Hopefully you can afford it. Let's do it.

Mouse (123:20)

Wow.

Charlamagne Tha God (123:20)

Capitalism at work. Wow. Capitalism at work.

Angela Yee (123:23)

I stand.

DJ Envy (123:26)

If you haven't got your tickets, it goes down sobs this Sunday. Joker.

Mouse (123:30)

Deadass Comedy show dot com. Deadass Comedy show dot com. If you on Instagram. Dead ass comedy show.

DJ Envy (123:36)

Yep, that's it. Charl, you got a positive note.

Charlamagne Tha God (123:38)

I do, man. I want to read a few quotes from Tor Roberts Knowing man. Cuz I think this book is very powerful. But Tor says you're not behind schedule. You're being built into the schedule. Everything God designed for your journey. The relationships, the timing, the provisions, the platforms is coded into the world around you, waiting on your emergence. Go seize it, y'. All. It's the Breakfast Club. Breakfast Club. Wake you up.

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Wake that ass up.

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