Grammy Weekend Exclusive ( Interview with Ashley Christopher, Brian Michael Cox and Jon B)

Summary

The Breakfast Club: Grammy Weekend Exclusive

Episode: Grammy Weekend Exclusive (Interview with Ashley Christopher, Brian Michael Cox and Jon B)
Podcast: The Breakfast Club (Black Effect Podcast Network & iHeartPodcasts)
Host: Lauren LaRosa (with guests Ashley Christopher, Brian Michael Cox, Jon B)
Date: February 2, 2026

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Overview

This special Grammy weekend episode captures the energy, achievements, and stories of Black excellence tied to the 68th Grammy Awards. Lauren LaRosa hosts one-on-one interviews with three powerhouse guests:

• Ashley Christopher (Founder, HBCU Week Foundation)
• Brian Michael Cox (Legendary producer, songwriter, and HBCU alum)
• Jon B (Iconic R&B artist)

The conversations revolve around music, community impact, HBCU empowerment, legacy building, and the blending of past, present, and future within Black culture and entertainment.

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Key Segments & Highlights

1. Setting the Scene: Black Excellence at the Grammys

Host: Lauren LaRosa
Timestamps: 02:21–04:55

• The 2026 Grammys are described as a celebration of Black talent and achievement across genres, with unprecedented representation and victories.
• "[...] anytime I'm somewhere, even if it's not supposed to be about everything black. I'm gonna make it that way. But this year's Grammys to me was very. I'm rooting for everybody black and they winning, period." (Lauren LaRosa, 02:45)
• Lauren teases in-depth coverage from the weekend and exclusive interviews.

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2. Ashley Christopher: HBCU Week, Impact & Staying Rooted

Timestamps: 04:55–10:04

Ashley’s Vision & Achievements

• HBCU Week Foundation: Founded to get Black students to and through HBCUs (Historically Black Colleges and Universities) debt-free.
• Milestones:
  • 12,000+ on-the-spot college acceptances since 2017
  • $150 million+ in scholarships awarded
  • Signature college fair offers 2,000+ acceptances and significant scholarships each year
  • STEM grants and partnerships exceed $40 million
• Notable moment: Tank raises $50,000 in 4 minutes at Brian Michael Cox’s brunch.
  • "He had tank raise $50,000 for HBCU week in four minutes. Like, never seen anything like this. [...] The energy was so crazy." (Ashley Christopher, 05:57)

Giving Back at Home

• Chooses to center the foundation’s work in Wilmington, Delaware, her hometown.
• On resisting the pressure to leave home for bigger opportunities:
  • "You never have to leave. If you do step out, maybe temporarily, but it's never like, I must leave. Like, if I don't leave, I won't succeed. That's never gonna be it." (Ashley Christopher, 07:19)
  • Stresses the importance of serving her own community and being an example for others.

Changing Lives: Kayla's Journey

• Shares story of Kayla Bel Davis, who:
  • Attended Howard on a $40,000 STEM scholarship, graduated debt-free
  • Now pursuing a doctorate at USC
  • "She's one of several hundred. Like, she's not, like, the only one. So I'm so grateful." (Ashley Christopher, 09:28)

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3. Brian Michael Cox: Community, Legacy, and HBCU Pride

Timestamps: 13:34–16:08

Motivation & Giving Back

• Cox’s personal mission: Uplifting young talent and giving scholarships, rooted in his own experience as an HBCU graduate (Clark Atlanta), with deep family ties to Bethune-Cookman and FAMU.
• On supporting Ashley Christopher and HBCU Week:
  • "Somebody had to pour into me in that way, right? Whether it was time, whether it was money, somebody had to pour into me in that way, and they did. And I'm the product of that. So for me, I don't ever take that lightly." (Brian Michael Cox, 15:07)
• Emphasizes being a conduit for continued support and representation of HBCUs in the music industry and beyond.

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4. Jon B: R&B Legacy, Collaborations, and Artistic Authenticity

Timestamps: 16:42–26:05

Career Update & Collaborations

• Recently took time off, working on next album and touring ("You'll see me in a state near you").
• Praises Tank’s contribution to his 10th studio album Waiting on You:
  • "He [Tank] came and he put the sauce on my song. [...] It was just incredible to have him as a presence on my album." (Jon B., 18:23)

Reflections on R&B and the Grammys

• Celebrates the resurgence and recognition of R&B and hip-hop at the Grammys.
• On Kehlani’s "Folded":
  • "I think it's a great example of how you could be melodic still and how we can think in a sense like we used to think in the 90s or early 2000s and be romantic at the same time." (Jon B., 19:57)
• Champions self-contained artists (writers/producers of their own music), likening them to his own approach.
  • "When you're in the DNA of your music and it gets acknowledged like that, I think that that's the greater [...] that's the real honor of it." (Jon B., 21:01)

On Creative Chemistry

• Discusses the significance of chemistry between artist, producer, engineer, and the collective intent behind making a great song:
  • "The song is the equation of all of those beautiful energies being in the room at the same time and having, you know, a sentiment that is very similar." (Jon B., 22:24)

Relationship with Babyface

• Addresses public curiosity about his relationship with Babyface:
  • "There's no update, really, other than just. I feel very good about, you know, the way that I've represented our relationship, because it's nothing but positive at this point." (Jon B., 23:54)
  • Stresses 30 years of positivity and partnership; refuses to let one moment overshadow the legacy.

Advice to Aspiring Artists

• "Stay in your lab, stay in your bag, get your, you know, get. You got to get in there and make something from nothing, baby." (Jon B., 25:08)
• Encourages perseverance, authenticity, and maintaining creative roots for lasting success.

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Notable Quotes

• Lauren LaRosa (Host): "Anytime I'm somewhere, even if it's not supposed to be about everything black. I'm gonna make it that way." (02:45)
• Ashley Christopher: "To be in a room so powerful with so many executives, so many people behind the scene, the creatives that are determining which way the culture shifts on any given day, to have that support... It meant that much to them that they would challenge each other to rise to the occasion." (06:19)
• Brian Michael Cox: "For me, I don't ever take that lightly, you know what I'm saying? Well, I think. I mean, I'm a product of HBCU, of HBCUs... I take a lot of pride in that." (15:07)
• Jon B: "When I say I'm R and B, I mean I'm really R and B. Like I'm. I'm part of the R&B culture and this is the, you know, evidently the RB culture." (18:55)
• Jon B: "It's not about necessarily being the focal point, the star. It's like when you're a part of the whole project, you know, you're part of the whole, you know, making of this thing, you know, and that's the real honor of it." (21:01)
• Jon B.: "Don't wait for anybody to tell you it's okay, you know, and give you the permission or give you the inspiration. Just, you got to find that stuff in yourself." (25:12)

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Timestamps for Key Sections

| Segment | Timestamp (MM:SS) | |--------------------------------------------|---------------------| | Black excellence at the Grammys | 02:21–04:55 | | Ashley Christopher on HBCU Week | 04:55–10:04 | | Brian Michael Cox on Giving and Legacy | 13:34–16:08 | | Jon B: R&B, Legacy, Collaborations | 16:42–26:05 | | Advice for Aspiring Artists (Jon B.) | 25:08 |

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Conclusion & Takeaways

This exclusive Grammy weekend episode of The Breakfast Club with Lauren LaRosa highlights the deep impact of grassroots leadership, committed artistry, and Black cultural advocacy. Ashley Christopher's HBCU Week story is a testament to homegrown empowerment and generational change. Brian Michael Cox exemplifies giving back and strengthening community roots. Jon B underscores the enduring power of authentic R&B and collaborative creativity, while sharing personal wisdom for legacy creation in music.

Anyone interested in Black culture, HBCU advocacy, or the state of modern and classic R&B will find this episode both inspiring and insightful.

Transcript

[Michelle Williams]

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[Lauren LaRosa]

Guaranteed Human 1969. Malcolm and Martin are gone. America is in crisis. And at Morehouse College, the students make their move.

[John B.]

These students, including a young Samuel L. Jackson, locked up. The members of the board of trustees, including Martin Luther King Sr. It's the true story of protest and rebellion in black American history that you'll never forget. I'm Hans Charles.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Our menelik Lumumba.

[John B.]

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[Lauren LaRosa]

You know, we always say new year.

[Michelle Williams]

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[John B.]

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[Nav Green]

Don'T lie about that, right?

[John B.]

Lauren came in hot.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Hey, y', all, what's up? It's Lauren LaRosa. And this is the latest with Lauren LaRosa. This is your daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment news and all of the conversations that shake the room, baby. So bringing some conversations to you that are going to shake a room or two or three. Live from the Grammy weekend here in la. This year's Grammys. I mean, I mean, anytime I'm somewhere, even if it's not supposed to be about everything black. I'm gonna make it that way. But this year's Grammys to me was very. I'm rooting for everybody black and they winning, period. We had so many different people nominated across categories from R and B to hip hop to music scores with sinners. Shout out to the clip. Shout out to Kendrick Lamar. Yeah, it just was a great year for the Grammys. Everything. The production of the show was great. We did a full breakdown over at the Breakfast Club. Make sure you guys check me out over there. But here, exclusive exclusively and only for you, my podcast listeners. I have a few interviews that I got a chance to do throughout some of the Grammy weekend events. So I sat down with a woman named Ashley Christopher. Ashley Christopher owns a organization called HBCU Week. HBCU Week is an organization that is near and dear to my heart because they were formed and they operate out of Wilmington, Delaware. HBCU Week, owned by Ashley Christopher, who is also from Wilmington, Delaware, gives a ton of scholarships to students in need who are trying to get to college. Not just get to college, but get through college and be successful. She has a college fair that she does and just per year at that college fair they offer over 2, 000 acceptances to HBCUs historically black college and universities. And she's awarded over $12,000 at that college fair alone. Not to talk about the $40 million to be able to offer for 40 students a thousand dollar STEM grants that she has outside of that fair. This program is moving and shaking and it's just one of those things that if you go and support something, support the people that's actually in the trenches doing it. And Ashley is boots on the ground and not letting up. She has all of my support and now I want to introduce her to you guys, my low riders. Let's listen to Ashley Christopher from HBCU Week at the pre Grammy brunch presented by Brian Michael Cox, who is a music legend. They did a lot to support Ashley within this event, including raising $50,000 in less than four minutes because music artist Tank was like, if we gonna do this, we gonna do it. Let's take a listen.

[Michelle Williams]

This is Ashley Christopher, founder and CEO of HBCU Week foundation, where our laser focus is to get black students to and through their choice. HBCU with no student debt since 2017, we've been able to offer more than 12,000 college acceptances on the spot at our college fair. And we have raised and awarded more than $150 million in scholarships. So stay connected. You can Find us on any social at HBCU Week or check out the website hbcuweek.org Brian Michael Cox. His brunch actually turned 20 years old this year. So it's very incredible to be even thought of or seen in that way, to be a part of it. He is an HBCU alum. We've honored him in the past at our gala and we partnered to expand our arts and entertainment scholarship. And it was the most legendary brunch I've ever been to. He had tank raise $50,000 for HBCU week in four minutes. Like, never seen anything like this. The energy was so crazy. They stopped at 50,000 because that was the scholarship goal. So he got the 50 and stopped in four minutes. And I'm to be in a room so powerful with so many executives, so many people behind the scene, the creatives that are determining which way the culture shifts on any given day, to have that support of those people to lean into what my little old foundation founded in Wilmington, Delaware, for kids that want to go to HBCUs. It meant that much to them that they would challenge each other to rise to the occasion. $50,000 in four minutes.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So talk about that. Like, because one, one of the things that I love about HBCU Week is that you keep it centered at home in Delaware. You bring. We had Anthony Anderson came for the HBCU Week gala. He went to the Cast bar. He did, he did, he did.

[Michelle Williams]

So crazy. It was such a crazy night.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You're bringing, I mean, a list level talent and support from brands from company, AstraZeneca. Like all these big name companies.

[Michelle Williams]

Yes.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Who normally they give a little cute little coin to, like the little black things here and there. Yeah. But they're not. You're not treated that way, right?

[Michelle Williams]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Talk about just being able to do that from home base, from Wilmington, Delaware. And like, what that says to people who feel like they gotta leave home to figure out any dream they had.

[Michelle Williams]

Oh, my gosh. You never have to leave. You never have to leave. If you do step out, maybe temporarily, but it's never like, I must leave. Like, if I don't leave, I won't succeed. That's never gonna be it. Right? I mean, for me, like, I knew I had to impact the kids in my hometown. It didn't make sense to do it in any other place. I mean, it could expand to there. And those places, like, are welcome to be included. But the purpose was for the kids in my community that looked like me. So, like, what do I look like, picking that up and taking that away from them. I mean, it's anticipated every year now. No, it was built for you, and that's where it's going to stay. And I hope that people look at me as an example of not like, oh, my gosh, like, that's so amazing. But it's possible. It's possible. You don't have to leave.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Into a room like this. Is this your first. Is this her first Grammys?

[Michelle Williams]

Yes.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Is this your first Grammys? Yes. Yes. So this is her first Grammy Grammy weekend. Right. So not only are you helping her tune through college, not only is she at USC right now, but now she's getting experience a room like this. Brian Michael Cox brunch. This is her first Grammys. What does. You know, we talk a lot about hbcu, but Ashley Christopher, as a human being, what does your heart, like, echo when you get to watch her experience all the things I just mentioned?

[Michelle Williams]

I mean, honestly, I'm just so grateful for her. You know, she showed up and she was prepared for the opportunity. She was an incredible high school student. Always outperformed, you know, her peers in every way. Just the top of the top, the cream of the crop. And it was an honor to be able to support her through her choice. Hbcu, and it happens to be my alma mater, Howard University. So because of our scholarship opportunity, she received the $40,000 Fossey Scholarship, which is awarded to students who study STEM. She graduated from Howard debt free, and now she's at USC pursuing her doctorate in occupational therapy. So she'll be a doctor in two and a half years. She's gone from graduating from Howard debt free to Dr. Kayla Bel Davis. That's her name. So, I mean, to be able to pour into that and just be the vessel to serve is an honor. So I never look at these opportunities or these experiences and say, oh, my gosh, look what I did. But it's. Cause it's not me, just a vessel, just doing what I'm told. But Kayla is just a clear opportunity of an example for what happens when you just listen and honor your calling. Like, it's amazing. And she's one of several hundred. Like, she's not, like, the only one. So I'm so grateful.

[Lauren LaRosa]

1969. Malcolm and Martin are gone. America is in crisis. And at Morehouse College, the students make their.

[John B.]

These students, including a young Samuel L. Jackson locked up. The members of the board of trustees, including Martin Luther King Sr. It's the true story of protest and rebellion in black American history that you'll never forget. I'm Hans Charles.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Our menelik Lumumba.

[John B.]

Listen to the a Building on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Nav Green]

Segregation in the day, integration at night.

[Lauren LaRosa]

When segregation was the law.

[Michelle Williams]

One mysterious black club owner. We didn't worry about what went on outside. It was like stepping in another world.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Inside Charlie's Place, black and white people danced together.

[Michelle Williams]

But not everyone was happy about it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You saw the kkk. Yeah. They was dressed up in their uniform. The KKK set out to raid Charlie, take him away from here.

[John B.]

Charlie was an example, a power they had to crush him.

[Lauren LaRosa]

From Atlas Obscura, Rococo Punch and visit Myrtle beach comes Charlie's place, a story.

[Michelle Williams]

That was nearly lost to time until now.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Listen to Charlie's place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is Ryder Strong and I have a new podcast called the Red Weather. It was many and many a year ago in a king by the sea.

[John B.]

In 1995, my neighbor Anna Trainor disappeared from a commune.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It was hard to wrap your head around.

[John B.]

It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So, no, I am not your guru. And back then I lied to my parents, I lied to police, I lied to everybody. There were years, Ryder, where I could not say your name.

[John B.]

I've decided to go back to my.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Hometown in Northern California, interview my friends, family, talk to police, police, journalists, whomever.

[John B.]

I can to try to find out what actually happened.

[Nav Green]

Isn't it a little bit weird that.

[John B.]

They obsess over hippies in the woods.

[Nav Green]

And not the obvious boyfriend?

[Lauren LaRosa]

They have had this case for 30 years.

[Nav Green]

I'll teach you sons of come around here.

[John B.]

And my wife, Boom boom.

[Lauren LaRosa]

This is the red weather. Listen to the red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Nav Green]

This show contains information subject to but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? This your boy, Nav Green from the Broken Play podcast. Look, it's the end of the season. The playoffs are here. But guess what? It ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play podcast with Nav Green on the Black Effect podcast network. Not a team who ain't going to the playoffs. The Chiefs. What's a wrap? It's time to rebuild. Who your MVP right now. Then Drake May up there. Josh Allen up there still. Oh, my boy Matthew Stafford.

[Michelle Williams]

Where did Nicks at?

[Nav Green]

He ain't too far behind.

[Michelle Williams]

He did all this talking.

[Nav Green]

What Matthew Stafford is doing statistically, bro, is crazy, bro, you know, I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Stafford got better weapon. Caleb Williams.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Hey, he should be in that conversation.

[Michelle Williams]

In what conversation?

[Nav Green]

He should be in it. Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from the Black Effect podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or whatever. You get your podcast now.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Of course, we had to hear from Mr. Brian Michael Cox, who Billboard just ranked one of the top producers of the music producers of the 21st century for hip hop and R and B. Brian Michael Cox is also a HBCU graduate, so it's near and dear to his heart, too, to make sure that programs like Ashley Christopher's hbcu, we get the love and support that they. That they need. But what touched my heart the most was I know coming from Delaware, being in rooms like this with people with power and reach and finances doesn't come as easy as it may seem or as it may sound because you got me and Ashley both here together, right? So it's amazing how he's gotten behind her program and also just kind of walked it into the door. So many different doors to be able to. So. To be able to do so many different things since being honored by HBCU week one time prior himself. Now talk to Brian Michael Coxious about his motivation to get involved in what it's like for him as the person, as the man, not the myth and the legend, but as the person. What it's like for him seeing so much support being poured into HBCUs because of a brunch and a platform that he has.

[Nav Green]

I mean, it's incredible for me because it's something I've always done. I've always poured into young people, even scholarships for my high school and things of that nature. I've always. It's something that's been the center of who I am as a person. So for me, that's easy. That was, you know, that was, you know, me. Like, for me, it was like, let's just do it. Like, when he stood up, I was like, I'd do it. So, okay, well, let's do it. I'll match you. You know, he said, 10,000. I'll match your 10. And everybody started. You know, it's. It's. For me. Somebody had to pour into me in that way, right? Whether it was time, whether it was money, whether it was whatever, somebody had to pour into me in that way, and they did. And I'm the Product of that. So for me, I don't ever take that lightly, you know what I'm saying? Well, I think. I mean, I'm a product of HBCU, of HBCUs. Both my parents went to Bethune Cookman. All my family went to famu. I went to Clark Atlanta. So, like, I'm a product of the HBCU journey, the HBCU experience. So for me, I take a lot of pride in that. So when we started, you know, we connected and started doing things. They honored me one year, and I just felt I was really, really just compelled to really get involved because, you know, I'm a product of that, you know what I'm saying? And I appreciate all the work that Ashley is doing and the HBCU team is doing, you know what I'm saying.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Now, taking it out of the HBCU world, even though we were still there within the same event. So still pre Grammy brunch, still Brian Michael Cox. All the things, all the people, all the fun, all the. All of the champagne, toast and conversations. But I ran into John B. And the last time I saw him, we had a very, very extensive conversation, just about R and B from the 90s, his relationship with Babyface, or lack thereof, I found out and where he's been and what he's been doing recently. So I had to get the latest. Him and Babyface. Cool now or what's happening? Let's take a listen.

[John B.]

Peace, everybody. I'm John B. And I'm with my girl, Lauren LaRosa, man, right here.

[Michelle Williams]

Hey, y'.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All, what's up? It's Lauren LaRosa. And this is the latest with Lauren LaRosa. And right now, the latest is on location. We are in la. It is Grammy weekend. Actually, today is Grammy day. The Grammys are about to start in probably about, like, the next two to three hours. We are here at Brian Michael Cox's brunch that he does every year that is so full of purpose. Sponsored by HBCU Week. Shout out to Delaware. And I'm here with John B. The Legend, the great, who's joined us on the Breakfast Club before.

[John B.]

Yes, I was just with you, actually.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You were. So since I've seen you last, what's new?

[John B.]

Well, I got some time off, that's what's new. I had some time off to be able to chill with my family and we're doing some rebuilding with my studio and things like that. But other than that, you know, not much other than new album being out and always on, on the road, touring you know, so that's what's keeping me busy. You're gonna see me in a state near you, definitely, because I think I start next week. You know what I mean?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, that's what I said. Okay, so, I mean, I said, what's new? What's the latest? I should say we branding this out now. The last time I saw you, I remember you were having a conversation with us about the fact that Tank hopped on your album that is out now and what that meant to you. Just inspiration wise, right? And this year at the Grammys, R and B and the legends of R and B and the legends of hip hop have such a center stage and you know what I mean? Like, I feel like this year is our year. Just talk about being here in the midst of all of that. And I know Tank was here at this event today and, you know, well.

[John B.]

Getting to see Tank, man, that's my brother from another mother. I mean, he supported me so incredibly on my album Waiting on youn Know, available right now. It's a new album, my 10th album. He featured on the title track, Waiting on youn. And to have him feature was, you know, a dream come true. I'm a huge Tank fan. He's a huge influence to me, you know, as an artist, you know, as a vocalist and as a producer. I mean, he, you know, he came and he put the sauce on my song. You know, he put the extra, you know, silver lining on my. On my record. So it was just incredible to have him as a presence on my album. And getting to see him tonight was great as well. You know, just shake a hand and just say thank you again. And, you know, as well as Brian Michael Cox, this is his party to honor him. So many of my colleagues and people I've known in the business, I've been in the game 30 years now. It's my 10th album. So this is like extended family for me, you know, and when I say I'm R and B, I mean I'm really R and B. Like I'm. I'm part of the RB culture and this is the, you know, evidently the RB culture. And, you know, in the United States and in la, New York City, and wherever I need to be, you know, and I'm outside amongst my peers and my people, and I love that. You know what I'm saying?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Have you been paying attention to the nominations for the Grammys?

[John B.]

I have not paid attention.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So a big conversation right now, R and B wise, is, you know, you have Kehlani folded, which. How do you Feel about Kehlani Folded. I feel like it's such a great song. Great song.

[John B.]

There it is. I mean, absolutely. I think it's a great example of how you could be melodic still and how we can think in a sense like we used to think in the 90s or early 2000s and be romantic at the same time. And you might not even be talking about being together, you know, I mean, because she's talking about come get your things, you know what I mean? But at the same time she's, she's being romantic about it. So I love that, the dynamic of that record and the writing of that record and also the vibe of that record. I feel like the chords kind of remind me almost of my song. They don't know a little bit too. When I hear that bass line, I'm like, I can't help but to hear like the themes that we created in the 90s, you know what I mean, reflected through this new music.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, she worked with a lot of, you know, people, OGs that created a lot of like soundless times from your time of like, what you're talking about. Like, I believe Tricky Stewart was involved and you know what I mean? Like, but also too, you have Leon Thomas's. A lot of Leon Thomas's songs, like Mud and different songs that are in that genre for best R and B song.

[John B.]

But it's crazy, you see that. I mean, just self contained, you know, art is what I like to see, you know, people, because I'm a self contained artist. I wrote my records, I played my chords, you know what I mean? You know, so when you, when you're in the DNA of your music and it gets, you know, acknowledged like that, I think that that's, that's the greater, you know, it's not about necessarily being the focal point, the star. It's like when you're a part of the whole project, you know, you're part of the whole, you know, making of this thing, you know, and that's the real honor of it. I feel like I know that's what it feels like for me when I, you know, have my records that, you know, have related to the world, you know, the world was related to my records. It's just really about having that connection be like, damn, you got me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You know, I mean, and, and how important is it for like even just artists, so. Because, okay, so we have Leon Thomas in the category when it comes to R B and RB songs. You have Kehlani with Folded. You have Summer Walker, Heart of a Woman, which is I play that song multiple times a day, which is also another good song. Right. But when I. When you look behind the veil of all those songs, the chemistry behind the people that are making them with the artist, it speaks for itself. It's very important. You, as an artist, who you say you're super involved in everything that you do. Right. How important is it for, you know, the chemistry between the producer and the, you know, the engineer and, like.

[John B.]

Yeah, well, that's the special, beautiful part of it, is that, you know, the song is the. You know, is the equation of all of those beautiful energies being in the room at the same time and having, you know, a sentiment that is very similar. You know, they all want to say, you know, you're all going for the same goal. And, you know, whenever you put two minds, you know, towards something, I don't care if you're trying to build a house, paint a wall, whatever it is, you're gonna have a. Just a. There's more intention in that because there's two people that are trying for the same thing. And sometimes you get just an incredible outcome. Not every time, but sometimes. And then you put multiple people in the room, you know, who all have just the same intention. And that's just that power that goes behind that record, really. That's what it. What it ends up being, is the power behind the record. So many minds coming together as one to make a sum, you know, I.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Mean, now I think when people think of John B. And they think of chemistry and partnership and relationship, obviously we go to Babyface. The last time I saw you, you were like, I don't want to talk about this. But we had a conversation, and I did see that it picked up, you know, pretty far, pretty wide. Is there an update? Like, what is the latest in, you know, that relationship with you guys? Because I think for a lot of people, you guys are like a tell as old as time, like, partnership wise. So you want to see it be a positive, whatever ending. And I wouldn't even say ending like a positive update or progression in a situation. Is there anything new there to share?

[John B.]

There's no update, really, other than just.

[Nav Green]

I feel.

[John B.]

I feel very good about, you know, the way that I've represented our relationship, because it's nothing but positive at this point. You know what I mean? I have nothing but amazing things to say about my man, and I always have for the last 30 years. So I don't want one moment to overshadow, you know, what 30 years has been of longevity. So that's Where I'm here to be able to represent Most definitely is 30 years of repping for each other, you know what I mean?

[Lauren LaRosa]

And when John B, you know, who has been iconic in the space of R and B, iconic in the space of feel good music, sits at the Grammys in 2026, where R& B and hip hop are such centerfold, right? Especially with, like, you know, producers being in conversation from decades ago, artists being in conversations from decades ago. What does John B. As the artist, say to these new up and coming artists who are not trying to get into the business, but are trying to create imprint and legacy in the business where they can do the same thing that we're seeing eclipse? Do you know what I mean? Like, bring the conversation back around because the talent is good.

[John B.]

Well, I would say, man, stay in your lab, stay in your bag, get your, you know, get. You got to get in there and make something from nothing, baby. You know, don't. Don't wait for anybody to tell you it's okay, you know, and give you the permission or give you the inspiration. Just, you got to find that stuff in yourself and in this beautiful world that we've been, you know, blessed to be able to exist in, man. So I would say make something from nothing and continue to love what it is to be able to create, you know, just even have a voice and have a chance to even do this, you know, I mean, have machines, have tools, have, you know, this beautiful culture of this music to be able to speak to your friends and tell them what you're doing, you know what I mean about, you know, I mean, so that's what it's really about, is just staying grounded with the things that got you to where you're at and keeping in touch with that so that you can have longevity, you know, for the days to come.

[Lauren LaRosa]

We love it. Thank you so much. 1969. Malcolm and Martin are gone. America is in crisis. And at Morehouse College, the students make their move.

[John B.]

These students, including a young Samuel L. Jackson locked up. The members of the board of trustees, including Martin Luther King senior. It's the true story of protest and rebellion in black American history that you'll never forget. I'm Hans Charles, our menelik Lumumba. Listen to the a building on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Nav Green]

Segregation in the day, integration at night.

[Michelle Williams]

When segregation was the law, one mysterious.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Black club owner had his own rules.

[Michelle Williams]

We didn't worry about what went on outside. It was like stepping in another world.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Inside Charlie's Place, black and white people danced together.

[Michelle Williams]

But not everyone was happy about it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You saw the kkk. Yeah. They was dressed up in their uniform. The KKK set out to raid Charlie, take him away from here.

[John B.]

Charlie was an example of power. They had to crush him.

[Lauren LaRosa]

From Atlas Obscura, Rococo Punch and visit Myrtle beach comes Charlie's Place, a story.

[Michelle Williams]

That was nearly lost to time.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Until now. Listen to Charlie's place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Nav Green]

This show contains information subject to but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? This your boy, Nav Green from the Broken Play podcast. Look, it's the end of the season. The playoffs are here. But guess what? It ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play Podcast with Nav Green on the Black Effect podcast network. Another team who ain't going to the playoff? The Chiefs. What's a wrap? It's time to rebuild. Who your MVP right now. Then Drake May up there. Josh Allen up there still. Oh, my boy. Matthew Stafford.

[Michelle Williams]

Where did Bo Nicks at?

[Nav Green]

He ain't too far behind.

[Michelle Williams]

He did all this talking.

[Nav Green]

What Matthew Stafford is doing statistically, bro, is crazy. Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Stafford got better weapon. Caleb Williams.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Hey, he should be in that conversation.

[Michelle Williams]

In what conversation?

[Nav Green]

Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from the Black Effect podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Segregation in the day, integration at night.

[Lauren LaRosa]

When segregation was the law, one mysterious black club owner had his own.

[Michelle Williams]

We didn't worry about what went on outside. It was like stepping in another world.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Inside Charlie's Place, black and white people danced together.

[Michelle Williams]

But not everyone was happy about it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You saw the kkk. Yeah. They was dressed up in their uniform. The KKK set out to raid Charlie, take him away from here.

[John B.]

Charlie was an example. Power they had to crush him.

[Lauren LaRosa]

From Atlas Obscura, Rococo Punch and visit Myrtle beach comes Charlie's Place, a story that was nearly lost to time. Until now. Listen to Charlie's place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, guys, so that has been another episode of the Latest with Lauren LaRosa. This has been an exclusive convers sensation piece that you guys have gotten to dive into as we headed on out to the Grammy awards weekend in LA for the 68th Grammy Awards. I'm Lauren, the Rosa and my low riders. I tell you guys every single episode, y' all can be anywhere with anybody. But y' all choose to be right here with me. And I appreciate y' all for that every single time, every single episode. I will catch you guys in my next one. 1969. Malcolm and Martin are gone. America is in crisis. And at Morehouse College, the students make their move.

[John B.]

These students, including a young Samuel L. Jackson, locked up the members of the board of trustees, including Martin Luther King Sr. It's the true story of protest and rebellion in black American history that you'll never forget. I'm Hans Charles, our menelik Lumumba. Listen to the A Building on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You know we always say new Year.

[Michelle Williams]

New me, but real change starts on the inside. It starts with giving your mind and your spirit the same attention you give your goals. Hey everybody, it's Michelle Williams, host of Checking in on the Black Effect Podcast Network. And on my podcast we talk mental health, healing, growth and everything you need to step into your next season whole and empowered New Year Real you listen to Checking in with Michelle Williams from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.

[John B.]

I actually drop better when I'm high.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It heightens my senses, calms me down. If anything, I'm more careful. Honestly, it just helps me focus.

[John B.]

That's probably what the driver who killed a four year old told himself and now he's in prison. You see, no matter what you tell yourself, if you feel different, you drive different. So if you're high, just don't drive. Brought to you by NHTSA and the.

[Lauren LaRosa]

AD Council on the Adventures of Curiosity Cove podcast. When Peanut Butter disappears from school, Ella, Scout and Layla launch a full detective mission. Their search leads them back in time.

[Michelle Williams]

To meet a brilliant inventor who's curiosity.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Change the world in this Black History Month adventure. Asking questions, thinking creatively can lead to amazing discoveries. Listen to Adventures of Curiosity Cove every Monday from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Michelle Williams]

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.