Interview: Gary Owen Finally Makes It To Netflix

Summary

The Breakfast Club: Interview with Gary Owen – “Finally Makes It To Netflix”

Episode Date: February 9, 2026
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God
Guest: Gary Owen

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Overview

In this vibrant and hilarious episode of The Breakfast Club, the team sits down with comedian Gary Owen to celebrate his long-awaited inclusion on Netflix, dissect his journey through comedy’s ever-changing landscape, and roast the industry, his peers, and himself. The episode is packed with candid insight, wild crowd work stories, honest reflections on “cancel culture,” and a torrent of comedy world callouts – all delivered in Gary’s trademark irreverence.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. Gary Owen’s “Finally” on Netflix

• [02:59] Charlamagne and the crew congratulate Gary on finally getting a special on Netflix after years of being snubbed.
• [03:31] Gary jokes about the notorious gatekeeper, Robbie Prah:

  “Take that, Robbie. That's the guy that makes all the decisions for the standup specials. Nobody ever wants to say his name, but he always says no, so f*** him. Robbie Prah.”

• [13:24] Gary reflects on his YouTube success while acknowledging Netflix was “like a birthday party I wasn’t invited to.”

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2. Comedy Clubs vs. Theaters & Touring

• [04:22] Gary explains moving from clubs to theaters:

  “I moved on from the comedy clubs... you mix it up, but now it’s just—I couldn’t go at that pace. We were doing like, 10, 11 shows at the club...”

• [25:33] Details on his new 100-city theater tour, and the economics of working theaters versus clubs:

  “My deal's nice... my touring deal goes into percentages... the most money I’ve ever made in my life.”

• [31:30] On success and business logic of scaling up:

  “Every theater is different. Depends on the seats, how much tickets are, how many you sell.”

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3. Cancel/Outrage Culture & Career “Controversies”

• [05:22] Gary recounts “the only time” he was nearly canceled, over a 2013 joke using the R-word.

  “Special needs came after me hardcore... they flew me to DC, I had to speak with all these special needs people. It was wild.”

• [06:40] Calls out advocacy outrage:

  “The special came out in 2013... they came after me in 2016. And you're calling them slow. The special was out for three years!”

• [07:19] The struggle of being “the perfect level of celebrity” for a controversy.

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4. The Netflix Dilemma: Desire, Rejection & Streaming Alternatives

• [13:56] Gary details Netflix’s evasive rejections (“they ran out of money”) and why he’s embraced YouTube:

  “So now I’m just filming... If you want to take it off my hands, that’s fine – but gotta do it by March 7th, or we’re putting it on YouTube.”

• [14:54] On Hulu’s entry into standup and “whiteballing” theories:

  “Hulu said, ‘we’re going off Netflix analytics’... but some comics get specials with no Netflix presence.”

• [15:09] Gary credits Facebook for massive social reach:

  “That’s where I got the most followers, most interaction... One video’s got like 80 million.”

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5. Open Roast: Comedy Specials, Peers & Industry Satire

A central, extended segment involves Gary humorously trashing Netflix stand-up specials and his peers, with Charlamagne and crew egging him on:

• [19:00-21:15] Rapid-fire roasts:
  • “All Black women? Some more, garbage. Let’s attack all of them.”
  • “Mike Epps, latest one—Delusional garbage.”
  • “Donnell's garbage... Nothing without Dave Chappelle.”
  • “Andrew Schultz, garbage.”
  • “Kat Williams coming up? Garbage, talking about farm animals or some. Nobody wants to hear that.”
• [21:16] Gary clarifies (sort of): “They’re all terrible. Until I get one.”
• [21:58] When asked if the lack of a Netflix special made him feel underestimated:

  “I don’t need them. They need me.”
  (Charlamagne: “You haven’t said that confidently not one time.”)

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6. Personal Life: Divorce, Family, Proposal

• [10:56 & 33:00] Gary navigates questions about divorce, using it for comedy, and his relationship with his children:

  “Honestly, it doesn’t really come up anymore. It’s so in the past... There’s never malicious intent. Yeah, it’s just a joke.”

• [34:53] Update on his daughter:
  “She’s at an Ivy League grad school, crushing it, but we don’t speak. She’s just getting through her own process right now.”
• [50:24] Proposal to his current girlfriend—confirmed:

  “Yep.” (Jess: “You did.” Gary: “Okay. Okay, Gary. Big Gary.”)

• [51:37] His wedding is TBD:

  “We’re gonna get married when I get Netflix special one… Well, that’s up to Robbie Prah.”

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7. Other Memorable Anecdotes & Comedic Riffs

• [09:03] On Black History Month:

  “Just cranking out more mixed babies.”
  (Charlamagne: “You’ve been getting back to the community for a long time.”)

• [36:00] On being robbed after withdrawing from Bank of America:

  “They call it 'jugging' in Texas… literally will wait and see who’s leaving the bank... I must’ve looked like an easy mark.”

• [41:57] Wildest moments around Black people:

  “Scariest I’ve ever been around black people? Honest to God—I took this girl, I’m like 17, 18, took her to see Menace II Society… my car wouldn’t start, everybody circling, I kid you not…”

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8. Philosophy on Success & Industry Gatekeeping

• [47:26] Charlamagne asks if Gary would see it as a loss if Netflix never calls:

  “You don’t need... we’re in a great time for standup… you can literally—if you got the camera and whatever you’re saying resonates with people—that’s it.”

• [47:58] Reiterates the power of direct-to-fan platforms:

  “Netflix is on your phone… but so’s YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Netflix rejection ([13:30]):

  “It does feel like a birthday party I wasn’t invited to.” — Gary Owen

• On cancel culture ([05:15]):

  “I think it’s more outrage culture. People get mad on social media, then everybody moves on.” — Charlamagne Tha God

• On crowd work in theaters ([11:55]):

  “Clubs are easier... Theaters a little tougher, because if they’re not lit, you can’t see a lot.” — Gary Owen

• On touring deal ([25:11]):

  “My touring deal goes into percentages. So, my first two weeks, I was like, whoa, yeah, hello!” — Gary Owen

• On relationships after divorce ([49:54]):

  “No hard feelings, baby. Yeah. We always think of the bad times. We had a lot of good times together.” — Gary Owen

• On Netflix decision makers ([43:39]):

  “You know what’s a joke? The people making the decisions on specials. They’re the joke. Robbie Prah. I’m the only one balls enough to say his name. He’s the one who says no.” — Gary Owen

• On why he’ll keep trying ([47:19]):

  “They say no anyway. They’re like a girl I’ve been asking out for 10 years that keeps saying no. I'm just gonna keep asking her out.” — Gary Owen

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:59]: Gary Owen’s Netflix breakthrough
• [04:22]: Transition from comedy clubs to theaters
• [05:22]: Near-cancellation over the “R-word” joke
• [13:24]: Streaming strategies: Netflix, YouTube, Facebook
• [19:00–21:15]: The “garbage” Netflix specials roast
• [25:33]: Touring economics: theater deals vs. clubs
• [33:00]: Update on relationship with daughter
• [34:53]: Reflections on family estrangement
• [41:57]: Wildest “black people” story (“Menace II Society” date)
• [50:24]: Proposal to current girlfriend, wedding plans
• [47:26]: Final word on Netflix and success

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Tone & Style

The episode is fast, raucous, and sharply comedic—a mix of real talk, roasts, and behind-the-scenes truths. Gary Owen’s biting sarcasm and willingness to call out industry norms is balanced by moments of vulnerability regarding family and career ups and downs. The hosts match his energy, keeping it honest but light-hearted.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a quintessential dive into both the humor and hustle of the stand-up world, as seen through Gary Owen’s unique lens. It deftly mixes actionable insight for industry-watchers, frank talk for fans of comedy drama, and enough wild digressions for anyone in search of a good laugh. If you haven’t caught Gary Owen’s work—or you’re curious about what it really takes to thrive outside the “industry machine”—this episode serves up all the realness.

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Listen for:

• The comedy industry’s inner workings and streaming revolution
• Humor around cancel/“outrage” culture
• Gary’s notorious string of “garbage” reviews
• Unfiltered discussion of personal life, relationships, and reinvention
• Candid, laugh-out-loud debate on what it means to “make it” in today’s comedic landscape

Transcript

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Hold up.

[Gary Owen]

Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody.

[DJ Envy]

It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lon laros is here as well. We got a special guest in the building.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Our guy. And we got to congratulate him finally, man.

[Gary Owen]

He is finally.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

After all these years.

[Gary Owen]

Gary Owen is on. He is on Netflix, ladies and gentlemen. Gary Owen is on Netflix. Yeah. Take that, Robbie. That's the guy that makes all the decisions for the standup specials. Nobody ever wants to say his name, but he always says no, so him. Robbie Pro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Robbie Pro.

[Gary Owen]

I'm kidding. I don't know.

[DJ Envy]

Would that be so funny if they.

[Gary Owen]

Banned this episode just because about that I like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's not upload this one.

[DJ Envy]

That's funny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I forgot.

[Gary Owen]

I think I left a message on your ig. I was like, yo, I'm finally gonna be on Netflix.

[DJ Envy]

How you feeling?

[Jess Hilarious]

How are you?

[Gary Owen]

Good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You finally made it to Netflix, though. Thank you, Breakfast.

[Gary Owen]

I know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you, Breakfast Club.

[Gary Owen]

Feels good. Feels good.

[DJ Envy]

What are you looking around for?

[Gary Owen]

Winning right now? I'm not on the FD Files or the Diddy Files. I know. Files, man. Damn. Who are you? Good job.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I don't know. I didn't look, really, because they got that. That tip line and the tip line, you can just call in and say whatever.

[Gary Owen]

Wow. Well, spoke too soon.

[DJ Envy]

Gary, I am.

[Gary Owen]

I'm proud of you.

[DJ Envy]

I told you last time you were here, the clips that you have been uploading have been hilarious.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, my God.

[DJ Envy]

I think people are. If they haven't seen you because you sell out so many shows, but if they haven't, they get a chance to see what your show is like and hilarious, man. I love seeing you live doing comedy.

[Gary Owen]

Thanks. I moved on from the comedy clubs, so now I'm in the theaters. Well, congratulations.

[Jess Hilarious]

Strictly theaters.

[Gary Owen]

I've been do it, but you mix it up. You like Comic Club. But now it's just. I couldn't go at that pace. We were doing like, 10, 11 shows at the club. So like, Saturday, I'm at the. In Brooklyn at the Kings Theater.

[DJ Envy]

King's Theater.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Boston, Friday. I don't know. I think I got to hire cities.

[Jess Hilarious]

I love that.

[DJ Envy]

Congrats, man. Sold out yet? All sold out.

[Gary Owen]

Most of them have been sold out.

[DJ Envy]

That's amazing.

[Gary Owen]

I think the only one that I don't Know what happened in Tucson? Tucson was packed, but it wasn't sold.

[Jess Hilarious]

Arizona.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah. It was a Sunday, though. There's some gem show. They said. Okay. Yeah, I just felt like saying it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know.

[Gary Owen]

Know our feelings, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

To who, though? Like, are you insulting anybody?

[Gary Owen]

No, just Earth. It's a cancer culture before it happens.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's no such thing as canceled people culture. They try.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, they're still trying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think it's more outrage culture. People get mad on social media and then, you know, everybody moves on to something else.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, when have they tried to cancel you?

[Gary Owen]

Huh?

[Podcast Host]

When did they try to. I. I haven't seen you try to.

[Gary Owen]

Oh, yeah, they did. Special needs came after me hardcore. Oh, my God, the Special Olympics.

[Nissan/J.D. Power Advertiser]

Oh, yeah.

[Gary Owen]

I'm not in that community.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What happened?

[DJ Envy]

How they come.

[Gary Owen]

I got a. I. It's so funny. I got a special needs cousin.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did you hear what she just.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, no, I know. I saw it. I caught it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What?

[Gary Owen]

I caught it. I didn't see it.

[Podcast Host]

That didn't come across my timeline.

[Gary Owen]

That was a while ago. You can Google it. It's on there. Because they flew me to dc, I had to speak with all these special needs people. It was wild. Oh, my God.

[Jess Hilarious]

How was that?

[Gary Owen]

They were trying to tell me how to tell my jokes. I was like, you're kidding me right now, right?

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, wow. So for them to understand. They want you to sell a certain way for them to understand, right?

[Gary Owen]

No, I did a joke in 2013 in my special.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just stand up and do it.

[Gary Owen]

No, no, no. Well, it's because I said the R word is what the really was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, gotcha.

[Gary Owen]

They said, I. I said in my special. But in my special, I use it as a description, not a put down. Like, I got a cousin Tina, she's retarded. I got a cousin Joey, he's tall.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Guys, it's a description. It wasn't a put down.

[Gary Owen]

I was putting context to the joke.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Also, the word is in the dictionary. That's what I don't understand. Like, it's an actual word. It's not blur.

[Gary Owen]

Well, here's what got me. The special came out in 2013, and it wasn't especially these people. It's their advocates that came after me, okay? They came after me in 2016. I was like, and you're calling them slow. The special was out for three years.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Where you been?

[Gary Owen]

Like, why would you get mad at something that had been out for three years? But they're slow. Okay? That made no sense. Like, they were like, don't say the joke anymore, I go, the joke's been dead. What are we talking about right now?

[DJ Envy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Angela Yee]

And they.

[Gary Owen]

And they. I was the perfect level of celebrity come after because I wasn't big enough that I could say f off, but I was big enough that they can get some press behind it. Got you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[Gary Owen]

And the only reason we met with them is because I had the reality show at the time. They were calling, like, the advertisers, basically, like, well, we won't advertise on a show, and stuff like that. So that's. That's why I met with them. And then my publicist created some fake apology that they read.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm glad you brought that up, because I told Jeff the other day, I said, you going to a lunch? Yeah, she had said something. She said.

[Gary Owen]

I don't remember.

[Jess Hilarious]

No, I didn't say anything about them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because that can happen. You can end up at a lunch apologizing.

[DJ Envy]

You went to a lunch?

[Gary Owen]

I was at. It wasn't a lunch. It was like. It was weird because it was like they put every. Every level of. Of special needs in the room. They had. But they had a black guy, a black girl, a white guy, a white girl, and it was all the gamuts. It was the one that looked like it, the one that didn't look like it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cool.

[Gary Owen]

You know?

[Jess Hilarious]

Okay.

[Gary Owen]

It was a lot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What were you supposed to learn?

[Gary Owen]

I have no idea. What got me was I'm not getting to imitate him. But when he tried to tell me how to tell my joke, I went.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, there's a whole lot of special needs person trying to tell you.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's so bad. You just describe it. I go, then you guys got to tell me what's funny. Because if I have a cousin and she does something funny, how am I supposed to address it? Just. No, I said, I can't. I can't do it. Yeah, I can't go there. It was. It was a lot. And I'm sitting here looking like this. If you like me telling LeBron how to shoot a jumper.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

That was years ago, right?

[Gary Owen]

Ten years ago.

[Angela Yee]

So.

[Podcast Host]

But that's. So that's. The last time you was canceled.

[Gary Owen]

They tried to cancel me.

[Podcast Host]

Okay. Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

So then you're good. You keep.

[Podcast Host]

You said it like it was, like, recent stuff. Oh.

[Gary Owen]

I mean, we just did the 2016, 2026 challenge.

[Nissan/J.D. Power Advertiser]

Right.

[Gary Owen]

I remember. Brought it back. But it feels good to be here during Black History Month.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, why?

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, I don't know, it just feels right.

[DJ Envy]

So what are you doing? What are you doing for Black History Month?

[Gary Owen]

Just cranking out more mixed babies.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You've been getting back to the community for a long time.

[Gary Owen]

A lot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, you have. You have.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, you have. I know what you want.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Number two with the new girl.

[Gary Owen]

We had twins.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah. Twins.

[Gary Owen]

Yes.

[Julian Edelman]

Damn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what it was.

[Gary Owen]

Yes, it was two for one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Podcast Host]

Is she pregnant again?

[Gary Owen]

No.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, okay. You said. Because you said cranking out more mixed baby.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't know.

[Gary Owen]

I just had two.

[Podcast Host]

I didn't know if you meant you. She was expecting.

[Nissan/J.D. Power Advertiser]

I didn't.

[Gary Owen]

Oh. We might try again. I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You think maturity makes comedians sharper or more careful? Because like you. Like you said, you got a fresh new set of twins. And I was having this conversation with a comedian friend the other day, and he was like, nah, man, I got mouths of feet, so. Whoa.

[Gary Owen]

That sound like Rip Michaels right there. Sound like Rip Michaels. Exactly like him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He was saying that. Saying that he got to be more careful. So what do you think?

[Gary Owen]

I think whatever you say, you just. There's. There could be repercussions that come with it. I think comedians should be able to say what they want. But just know if you say that, there could be repercussions. I think just like we're talking about the special needs. The problem is when people go to a show, if they. If they like, if they have a special needs cousin or son, they think you're talking directly to them.

[Julian Edelman]

Right.

[Gary Owen]

We're not. We don't know.

[Jess Hilarious]

You got.

[Gary Owen]

You know this. The trans community is a big thing now, too. Like, we don't.

[DJ Envy]

Shut up. Just. Sorry. Go.

[Jess Hilarious]

This is crazy.

[Gary Owen]

Making sure you don't jump in. I'm protected. I'm protected. Happening. Oh, no, no. I thought it was Jesse.

[Julian Edelman]

Hilarious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was you in the room with J.

[Gary Owen]

What was that? What was that? She was falling. Shut up.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, my God.

[Jess Hilarious]

I was not expecting what he said.

[Gary Owen]

What was that?

[DJ Envy]

Do you stay away from any jokes concerning your ex. Your ex wife?

[Gary Owen]

And honestly, it doesn't really come up anymore. It's so in the past. Something you posted. Right. Yeah, that was good. But that's off the cuff. That's not written jokes. Okay, so obviously people yell stuff. Every now and then you address it. But there's never. Here's the thing. There's never malicious intent. Yeah, it's just a joke.

[Jess Hilarious]

But that. That was funny. And did you really think Africa was a country?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, I messed up on that one. Yeah, I Messed up, crazy. It was a bit that these girls were diplomats from Africa because I have a. I have a very diverse fan base.

[DJ Envy]

It wasn't real.

[Gary Owen]

No. They were just sitting in the front.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, it was.

[Gary Owen]

And they asked, what do you do? And they said, we're diplomats from Africa. And I said something like, oh, the country, it's like, it's a continent. I go, okay, you got me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[Gary Owen]

I really thought it was a country.

[Jess Hilarious]

So you do. You do a lot of crowd work. Right. But now that you're in theaters, how is that gonna work?

[Gary Owen]

I still do it. Here's the thing, I. You could say a lot. We just were rolling all the time. The camera guys are rolling. So you'll get like a two minute clip. But I give them an hour of material. But we might mess with the audience a little bit. Clubs are easier too, because they're right there and they're looking theaters a little tougher because if they're not lit, you can't see a lot.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

And you know, they get farther back and you gotta make sure the audience knows what you're talking about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A club.

[Gary Owen]

They can see you. They know who you're talking about. In the theater, if you're in the balcony, you don't know what's going on the front row. But like somebody comes in late, somebody does a funny laugh, you know, you still get the. The crowd works just. You don't get 10 shows to clip it up.

[DJ Envy]

You feel like you lose your edge.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, never lose my edge. When you're the best.

[DJ Envy]

Shows us.

[Gary Owen]

When you're the best. When you're the best, you don't lose.

[Podcast Host]

Your edge on Netflix. Now you talking crazy.

[Julian Edelman]

Boom.

[Gary Owen]

Look at me. No special not needed. Yeah. What's those prices in today's price?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Been putting him on YouTube though.

[Gary Owen]

That's all I need. I don't need. I got. My next special is coming out March 7th on YouTube. No, it's called no Hard Feelings. So we're just. I'm just filming like I had two specials out last year and I'm going to do two specials this year. So we filmed the last one two weeks ago in D.C. and then we're going to do another one in December. So we'll. We're just going to crank them out. And the good. Where I'm at now is good because I don't have to submit to Netflix. And wait, I'm like, look, here it is. We're putting on YouTube March 7th. If you want to take it off my hands. That's Fine. But you got to do so by March 7th or we're putting on YouTube. You know what I mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you built a whole career without Netflix, so do you feel like that proves you don't need them, or does it still feel like that missing Infinity Stone? Like, I need that.

[Gary Owen]

I don't need it. It does feel like a birthday party I wasn't invited to. Yeah, like I was in. Like you're in elementary school and all your. Your friends got invited. You're just like, dang, I'm not invited. Yeah, but I.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't you feel that way about diddy parties?

[Gary Owen]

No, I went to some ditty parties. Nightclubs. Never the house. Yeah, No, I never felt that way.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[DJ Envy]

And they still haven't told you why they don't want your special on Netflix. Was there a reason? Did you have a conversation?

[Gary Owen]

Does it matter?

[DJ Envy]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Gary Owen]

They're going to lie to you. No. Cuz I'll tell you. But I'll put like this one time. Netflix told me they couldn't do the special because they. Their money was out. They had spent all their money on specials that year. But then Matt R. Got one, and I went, he deserved it, though. He. He. Tickets went through the roof. You'd be stupid not to give him one. Right? So this is a knock on him, but I was like, I thought the money ran out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What if they paid him before you heard the announcement?

[Gary Owen]

No, this all just happened. I talked to his people. Eric Griffin does most of his directs, most of it. He's a comedian. So I talk to Eric all the time. So I just ask him. So that was a BS Answer. Now Hulu's getting in the standup space, right? Hulu said, when we submit it for Hulu, they said we're going off Netflix analytics. So we're like, Bill Burr went over to Hulu and stuff like that. So they're like, if you don't have a Netflix special, we don't know what numbers he's bringing to the table. Hulu don't want you. But. But I believe just got a Hulu special. He never had a special.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Gary Owen]

So that was bullshit. So it doesn't matter the reason. They're just going to B.S. you and you're going to drive yourself crazy. So just do it on your own.

[Jess Hilarious]

So do you believe that you're whiteballed in some way?

[Gary Owen]

Could be White ball?

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah. No, because that's. That's so happening.

[Gary Owen]

You're like, yeah, it doesn't. That's the thing. It doesn't matter. At this point, the YouTube's fine. Facebook's where all the people don't realize Facebook's work. I built a big part of my fan base. That's where I got the most followers, the most interaction.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

I got one video. It's got like 80 million.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

80 million.

[Gary Owen]

And so. And it was. It was in Baltimore at the county factory. It was. I imitated like four people at the same time. And I didn't. I forgot about it. We did in February last year and we didn't post it till July. And I remember my. The guy does my videos. He was like, yo, I think we got something here. I said, really? He goes, yeah, it's like you're imitating four people at the same time. He goes, but it's like seamless, but in the moment, you don't realize it. You're just going on with your set.

[Jess Hilarious]

Right.

[Gary Owen]

But then when it aired, when we posted it, it. It's rare. You get a clip that hits on every platform. It hit on YouTube, it hit on Twitter, it hit on Instagram, it hit on TikTok. I was like, damn, this thing hit everywhere. And then we did the numbers and we're like, dude, we're like 80 million right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Gary Owen]

On the three minute clip.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So listen, when these companies give you like, no. Do they give you like polite no's or like, like, you know, we love you, just not right now, Gary.

[Gary Owen]

Or I don't know. I just hear it from my agent or manager.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Gary Owen]

I don't hear it from the meetings. Yeah, yeah. I'm not talking to them. Yeah, but they don't really. They don't really give a response. There's no, like, offer or anything, so. But it's. It's fine. Now YouTube.

[Jess Hilarious]

I know Baltimore DC loves you don't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sound like you don't. You don't sound like. It's fine guy.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't say that confidently.

[Gary Owen]

I don't know.

[Jess Hilarious]

I think he actually is happy because he's still.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because I've heard people talk about YouTube and Facebook with confidence, like, you know what I'm saying? With confidence.

[Gary Owen]

I thought he did start over. That.

[DJ Envy]

Does it make you feel any way, like. Because I know. I'm sure you watch some comedian specials on Netflix.

[Gary Owen]

There's a couple.

[DJ Envy]

And you. And I know you probably said they're trash and like, I would have killed it. Does that, does that bother you at all?

[Gary Owen]

No, not really.

[DJ Envy]

Without saying names, of course not really.

[Podcast Host]

I mean, I was going.

[Gary Owen]

We can say themselves. I mean, one of them came up Here. And was angry.

[Podcast Host]

Oh.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nate.

[Gary Owen]

Nate Leonard.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, Monique. Oh, wow.

[Gary Owen]

Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's crazy. Monique. Slander. Gary.

[Gary Owen]

I didn't say your name.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You did, and we ain't doing it. Nope, nope. No, Monique. I didn't watch.

[Gary Owen]

I didn't. I don't watch a lot of specials. You watch clips, but then you hear the Internet will tell you, this one's fire. This one's garbage. Can't go. I didn't say your name. You guys said your name.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, you said Leonard. We know what that means. It's right there on the wall actually screaming Leonard on the wall. Right there on the wall. Yes.

[Gary Owen]

You made Gary Owen make the wall.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Gary is on the wall.

[Podcast Host]

We have any white?

[Jess Hilarious]

We don't have nobody white but Kendrick.

[Gary Owen]

That is not.

[Jess Hilarious]

That is not him.

[Gary Owen]

Never had a beard. Oh, my God.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, there's a white guy that sho.

[Gary Owen]

Right there.

[Jess Hilarious]

No, With a beard.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's Claud Anderson.

[Gary Owen]

That's Claud Anderson.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, Gary is on the wall.

[Gary Owen]

No, I'm not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The.

[Gary Owen]

The Takashi one should have been on here. That was a classic interview.

[Jess Hilarious]

Wow. No, that. That would have been funny to get.

[Gary Owen]

I swear.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought Gary was on.

[Gary Owen]

No, I'm not on the wall. Charlemagne. No, you did not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Him dressed up as the cost.

[Gary Owen]

That was a good one.

[Jess Hilarious]

That was funny.

[Gary Owen]

That was money. That was money. Yeah, that was money in the bank right there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We got room for it.

[Gary Owen]

I was. I was in makeup for, like, three hours.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We got room for it.

[Jess Hilarious]

Committed. Yo, look. So put me right next to Monique.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, God.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did she get on your ass this week?

[Gary Owen]

Right? I know she will. I didn't say her name, though. You did.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, but she was hitting at it.

[Gary Owen]

No, I'm saying what I heard.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Maybe we should believe her name. Neither one of us need that.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, yeah. We don't. We're going to. Yeah, Wanda Sykes had a garbage one too. We'll just throw another one out there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why all black women?

[Gary Owen]

Some more garbage. Let's attack all of them. You go all of them.

[Podcast Host]

No. Counterparts.

[Gary Owen]

No, we're not doing that today. It's Attack on Black Women Day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We were texting. You told me that you didn't like Matt Rice.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, garbage. They're all garbage. Actually, you know what? If you're gonna go in, go in on all of them. Mike Epps, latest one.

[Julian Edelman]

Terrible.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, my God.

[Gary Owen]

Delusional garbage.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Very high rated.

[Gary Owen]

Oh, Donnell's garbage. His whole career is garbage. There's nothing without Dave Chappelle.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Gary Owen]

He wore a Dave Chappelle necklace on your show. Where's the R?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Gary Owen]

Donnell Rollins.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Gary Owen]

You're gonna wear a C and your name starts with R. You know it's gonna be funny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm gonna send him this now, Gary, so it's out of context.

[Gary Owen]

They're all garbage. He gonna go live. Chappelle specials are garbage. All of them. Gary.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Gary.

[Gary Owen]

All of them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah.

[Gary Owen]

Sticks and stones may break my bones.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was. That was fire.

[Gary Owen]

Terrible. Stole all of it. What? I heard all of it. No, I'm not. There's no way they're all garbage.

[DJ Envy]

I'm sorry.

[Gary Owen]

Tell me your favorite Netflix special of all time.

[DJ Envy]

Dave Chappelle.

[Gary Owen]

Which one? All of them Amazing Kevin Hart garbage.

[Jess Hilarious]

Your white ass is on the road, Gary.

[Gary Owen]

I know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Gary Owen]

All of them are garbage.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Chris Rock Tambourine garbage.

[Gary Owen]

Tony's funnier. Why I do agree with that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Tony is funnier.

[Gary Owen]

Andrew shows the garbage IVF for an hour. Speak about something else. We know your wife got a whatever up her cooch. Garbage. Yo.

[Jess Hilarious]

This is crazy.

[Podcast Host]

Enjoy this white outrage.

[Jess Hilarious]

I am too.

[Gary Owen]

Give me another one. I'll tell you exactly what the special was about.

[Jess Hilarious]

This is great.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who else did I.

[Jess Hilarious]

Because they always say black people. We go in on each other, but they always say white people don't ever.

[Gary Owen]

Go in on their own.

[Jess Hilarious]

Or nobody else.

[Gary Owen]

Give me another one.

[DJ Envy]

Who else?

[Angela Yee]

White.

[Gary Owen]

Yo. Garbage. I'll tell you what it was about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, Nate Jackson.

[Gary Owen]

Oh, my God. The half crowd work, half Jersey, every city guy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Gary Owen]

He's garbage too.

[DJ Envy]

That was terrible.

[Gary Owen]

He's act like it was all that shitty Spears.

[Jess Hilarious]

You think Aries Spears is funny?

[Gary Owen]

Awful.

[Jess Hilarious]

He's hilarious.

[Gary Owen]

Stole Nate Jackson's whole vibe.

[Jess Hilarious]

Shut up.

[Gary Owen]

All of it.

[Jess Hilarious]

Even if he did, he's funnier.

[Gary Owen]

Nate Jackson used to wear Yankee caps. And then Aries took it.

[Podcast Host]

Cat William got one coming up. What you think?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Garbage.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, stop.

[Gary Owen]

Terrible. He's talking about farm animals or some. Oh, my God. Nobody wants to hear that. Black community doesn't want to hear about farm animals on a farm.

[Jess Hilarious]

We actually should, because Terrible.

[Gary Owen]

They're all terrible. Until I get one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do you think not having a Netflix special made people underestimate you? Or did it free you? Cuz now you know you don't have to chase the industry no more. You on YouTube and everything else. That's right.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

I don't need them. They need me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You haven't said that confidently yet. You haven't said that confidently not one time.

[Gary Owen]

This whole never going to see this look. Look, I know it hurts. It's like this I know, man. It hurt.

[Jess Hilarious]

Damn.

[Gary Owen]

Why you made me go there?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But why do people act like they don't want one when they know they do?

[Gary Owen]

I think. No, I. I. Ali Sediq.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Fire.

[Jess Hilarious]

Fire. Garbage.

[Podcast Host]

Always.

[Gary Owen]

He's not even on Netflix. Oh, that's right. He's good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I was.

[Jess Hilarious]

I was 85, so.

[Gary Owen]

All three of them, terrible hacks.

[DJ Envy]

Did you watch Eddie Murphy special?

[Gary Owen]

That was good. That was good.

[Julian Edelman]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah. I mean, here's the thing, though. The good thing about doing on your own is it. It's gonna be when it happens. I'm sure it'll happen. Netflix will call. Maybe not after this interview.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is a weird manifestation you're doing, but you spent 30 minutes saying how much you don't want it. Now you're saying you want it.

[Gary Owen]

No, I don't. I said they're gonna call, okay? And I'm gonna be like, I need a bigger number. You know? And I only think that would be a tough sell from what I've heard from guys that got it. Like, when I was talking to Nate and other people about when they got an epic special is like, submitting your material to get approved by somebody in a, like, office.

[DJ Envy]

Do you have to. I feel like they should be.

[Gary Owen]

Maybe Dave doesn't. Maybe he's got carte blanche. But, like, other people, they're first timers. The first time you know, I've heard, they're like. They put all these rules. Like, I think Nate was telling me Netflix was like, hey, ease up on the. On the. The clips. And he goes, yo, I gotta. I gotta put clips out. What are you talking about? And he's like, no, we want to wait, you know, And I might be speaking out of turn, but I think it's safe. It's nothing salacious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They tell us the same thing, but that would be.

[Gary Owen]

That would be the hardest part. Like, I remember back in the day when you're just trying to get on TV and you do those little ensemble shows where there's like four or five of you, and they'll be like, yeah, submit your material ahead of time.

[Julian Edelman]

Like, what?

[Gary Owen]

That's so difficult because a lot can happen, right? You know?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

So I was like, that's always difficult. So write your set down too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So Netflix called tomorrow. Would you do it or would you hit him with it now? I'm good. Just, like, heal your inner comedian.

[Gary Owen]

It would just depend on the price, how much you're paying, baby.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got you, got you, got you the last time.

[Gary Owen]

What's up?

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, so it's a nice watch.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't believe you either, Gary.

[Jess Hilarious]

So the fact that you are not going to be in clubs anymore, and so you're not doing clubs at all, are you going to go?

[Gary Owen]

Not this year. I signed the Hunter City tour.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right. Wow. You get to the bag, Gary. We got.

[Gary Owen]

So we got. We got like 45 before Meg. We do three shows a weekend, three cities a weekend. Then we're going to Australia, Europe, Canada, the summer, and then we'll come back and we'll do the rest of the country after that.

[Jess Hilarious]

Now, is that for, like, a better look? Because, you know, people consider when you do comedy clubs, that's not the. That's. It's like a. It's like a ladder you climb. You got comedy clubs and you got amphitheaters and you got theater and you got arenas. Right? So. But what is weird is you make more money in the clubs, you don't make more money in the theater because it's way more expensive expenses.

[Podcast Host]

Right.

[Gary Owen]

I don't know. I put me on White Boy.

[Angela Yee]

What's the point?

[Gary Owen]

My deal's nice.

[DJ Envy]

Well, he was saying instead of doing five shows, he could put those five shows in one theater. Just do it one time.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, I get it. But the money that comes from the five shows.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But he signed you. You were like Live Nation or somebody.

[Gary Owen]

Icon. My touring deal goes into percentages. So my first two weeks, I was like, whoa, yeah, hello.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So you get an mg and percentages.

[Gary Owen]

You get the guarantee. You negotiate guarantee. So, you know, you're not. You're good. And then once you. Once they hit a price point, then you're getting a percentage of the door, and you just gotta negotiate the percentage.

[Podcast Host]

Like, less of the, like, fight work that probably goes into figuring out comedy clubs towards.

[Jess Hilarious]

Right, yeah.

[Gary Owen]

Because, I mean, believe me, you could generate a lot of money in the comedy club. A lot. And then.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But.

[Gary Owen]

And I've always heard this, like, the first time you go do theaters, you're just kind of getting your feet wet. So it's just like comedy clubs, the deals aren't as good, but then when you start doing. But, you know, they were. I guess Icon was kind of tracking my progression. So they. They came with a. A great offer. So I was like, yeah, yeah, 100 cities.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

You know what I mean? Did you have theaters? Yes, but did you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why not?

[Gary Owen]

Like, I'm in Albany Thursday, Boston, Friday, Brooklyn, Saturday this weekend. So we got.

[Julian Edelman]

This is Julian Edelman from Games with Names. Now let's get into the serious stuff. We're talking football food. Specifically Daisy French onion dip.

[Gary Owen]

That is serious.

[Julian Edelman]

Gotta try these delicious new dips from Daisy. These are so delicious. They're like homemade dips made with real herb and spices and other ingredients you'll find in your kitchen. Also made with some Daisy sour cream. Daisy sour cream is a long standing staple for Taco Tuesday.

[Gary Owen]

You know what I do when I get my street burrito? I get the squirt Daisy. Yeah. And every bite.

[DJ Envy]

I know you.

[Gary Owen]

I know you.

[Julian Edelman]

I'm a huge sour cream guy. I love sour cream pop. So I think burritos can't live without sour cream.

[Gary Owen]

I completely agree with that.

[Julian Edelman]

They also have daisy ranch dip. I love ranch dip.

[DJ Envy]

It's great.

[Gary Owen]

I love it.

[Julian Edelman]

With crackers, wings, plain potato chip, the ones with the little crinkles, maybe some bell peppers. So get out there and give Daisy French onion dip a try. You will not regret it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Jess Hilarious]

So you got good routing too?

[DJ Envy]

Like.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, they routed nice.

[Jess Hilarious]

Right, Right. Because that also plays a part in how people buy your tickets too. Like all of it matters what you do. I was just trying to figure it out, even because for myself, me going from comedy clubs to theaters, me personally, I like the club. But for a better look, you want to. You want to move up the ladder, you do amphitheaters and all that type of stuff. But the money in the theaters is like taking a pay cut coming out of.

[Gary Owen]

It was like that for a while, okay?

[Jess Hilarious]

That's what makes me have that.

[Gary Owen]

No, this tour is not like that.

[Jess Hilarious]

Not this one. Because you've been theaters though, huh? You've been doing.

[Gary Owen]

I've been doing theaters, but it be like one offs or a promoter, they might do a small run or you're on an ensemble show.

[Jess Hilarious]

Okay.

[Gary Owen]

But th. No, this is. This is the most money I'VE ever made in my life.

[DJ Envy]

They fly you private.

[Gary Owen]

I can fly myself private if I want to.

[Jess Hilarious]

That's amazing.

[Gary Owen]

But I don't. I'm not going to waste that money.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, that's crazy money, huh, Hunter? Shows is crazy. A lot.

[Gary Owen]

And every, every, like she said, every theater is different. Depends on the seats, how much tickets are, how many tickets you sell. So like we did Long beach, so Long beach, we. It was a 3,000 seater. We sold it out. We added another one. The second one we had 20, 2500. That was 5500 seats one night.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

You know what I mean? Houston, we're Gonna Price those 6,000 that night.

[Jess Hilarious]

You price your own tickets. Like you make the. Or does that.

[Gary Owen]

They, they t. Does that and they, they ask you what you want and then you, you kind of agree to it. Same with the comedy club. Can price yourself out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're going to get a Netflix special after this running. I'm going tell you why. Because you know they go off ticket sales. So if you doing 100 cities, all theaters, you sell all those out, somebody going to give you a. A good deal.

[DJ Envy]

They'll be stupid now too.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, well, you said it. I didn't. I just said all their specials are. Damn.

[DJ Envy]

Now, the last time you was up here, you talked about.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, it's great now.

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

Christmas together. Right.

[Gary Owen]

We spent every holiday. He came Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas. We were in the Bahamas. He's been with us every holiday.

[Podcast Host]

But when you were posting. I forget which holiday it was, but it was like the first time you had all your boys together.

[Gary Owen]

That was last year. That was like over a year and a half ago. He's been. Yeah, he's been around for a while now.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, but your daughter's still not.

[Gary Owen]

Daughter's still not. You know, she's still, she's still crushing it though. She's. I, I gotta. I got a tracker on the Internet.

[DJ Envy]

So I don't speak at all.

[Gary Owen]

No, I don't have. It's just not on social media. That's what makes it tough. So I'll like Google her name and I'll find some. So something just popped up this week. So I, I know where she's at in life right now. She's killing it. She's at an Ivy League school, grad school. She's killing it.

[Podcast Host]

You still try and reach out.

[Gary Owen]

I know there's no way.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh yeah.

[Gary Owen]

There's just no way. There's no social media. The. No, I don't know the, the phone numbers. There's just no way to. For me to reach out to right now.

[DJ Envy]

And you don't put your son involved. Like, hey, call your sister.

[Gary Owen]

I've asked him. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

He said no.

[Gary Owen]

I'm like. Without throwing people under the bus, I'm gonna keep that.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

Private.

[DJ Envy]

Gotcha.

[Gary Owen]

But, yeah, I've. I've asked them without making it awkward for him. He tells you what's happening. You know what I mean? So.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So when she graduates, are you gonna just pop up at the graduation? Are you just.

[Gary Owen]

Not if I. If I know where it's at, I know it is. Yeah, I'll be there. And the day she calls, I'll be there. So I. I mean, I think it's gonna happen. I think she's just getting. From what I hear, she's just getting through her own process, getting through school right now. Once she gets out, then she'll reach out from. That's what I've heard.

[DJ Envy]

Now, let me ask you if. Let's say you're scheduled to shoot a Netflix special.

[Gary Owen]

And she calls and she calls. I'm out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sorry.

[Gary Owen]

Netflix.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Jess Hilarious]

All right, I'm out. Yeah, they should understand.

[Podcast Host]

I was going to say maybe they should go with you to document, but she probably don't want them cameras. She just started talking to you again.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, yeah, she don't want that. No, I wouldn't put that through. I wouldn't put her through that anyways. But, yeah, Netflix was. I'm so good, though. Envy. I would do both. I could go see her and get back and do the special. Talk that frazzled. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

That's one of them days you would fly private.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, I'd figure it out. I'd figure it out. Trust me, I'd figure it out.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's. What's going on with Fresno? Like, they said, you haven't been to Fresno since 1999. And it's been headlines like, comedian Gary Owens hasn't performed in Fresno in decades. Why he's finally back. What the hell happened in Fresno that you weren't there in decades? And that was a big deal.

[Gary Owen]

No, that was just the. I did a newspaper article, okay. And I. That was that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We were.

[Gary Owen]

We kicked off the tour in Ready, Pennsylvania, but that was the. The first time I've been there since 99 for. You know, they don't have a comedy club, you know, if you're not booked there. And what's wild is when I went to Fresno in 99, I brought Gabriel Glacis to open up for me.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, no.

[Gary Owen]

And now he's Big special. Terrible. Joe Coy's terrible. They're all bad.

[Jess Hilarious]

Damn.

[Gary Owen]

They're all bad.

[Jess Hilarious]

What about Miniscalco? You don't like Maniscalco?

[Gary Owen]

Oh, hack acting like some Italian. He's Puerto Rican.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I heard that, though. What? True.

[DJ Envy]

Shut up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He was really Puerto Rico.

[Jess Hilarious]

No, you didn't.

[Gary Owen]

He's a liar.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah.

[Jess Hilarious]

No, he is. No. That man Italian.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Have there been any updates in your robbery case?

[Gary Owen]

No. That's the bad part. The cops come on me to do like, a commercial for him. I said, well, find the guys that robbed me first, and then I can validate the Missouri City, Texas Police Department.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They asked you to do a commercial?

[Gary Owen]

They like you. Do, like, ad. What do you call it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ads.

[Gary Owen]

Ads and stuff. Like, hey, Can you find the guy that broke into my car, please? You know, I just take a lot of comfort knowing that guy's life. I know karma's going to catch up with him. So he might. I got caught for mine. Yeah, he going to get caught for something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How much did he get? A lot.

[Gary Owen]

Talk about I was an idiot run.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That kind of castle.

[Gary Owen]

Gary, you explained. It's real quick.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Gary Owen]

I don't. I was. I was. I was. Closed my bank of America account years ago. I didn't know what I had in there. So I just went to go. I'm going to shut it all down. And I drove by bank of America. America. It was literally spur of the moment. Went in, how much do I got? And then. Yeah, and then the lady was like, you want a cashier's check? You want cash? I go, whatever. Quicker. Because they was. They had me in there filling all this paperwork. I just want to get out of here. So they gave me cash. So a guy followed me to the gym and took it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, you got set up.

[DJ Envy]

He left the cash.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Somebody from the bank told.

[Gary Owen]

But I need to. But they call it jugging in Texas. Yeah, they call it jugging. Like, guys literally will wait and see who's leaving the bank look like. I must have looked like an easy mark. Clearly. White guy, happy.

[Jess Hilarious]

Biker shorts.

[Gary Owen]

All right. Bad bunny. I love him. I was. I was so.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ah.

[Gary Owen]

And I didn't take it to the gym because I figured the gym lockers are more easy to break into than the car.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Gary Owen]

Because my car is. It's a good car.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They.

[Gary Owen]

Man, he broke all the. Trying to get in all the windows. Finally gotten one. And they had a security guard on the ground. Like, where were you, bro?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And you had it under the seat or something.

[Gary Owen]

I had it in the the glove on the middle glove console.

[Jess Hilarious]

And then you say when you came out the gym, the security guy was like, yeah, they just broken you.

[Gary Owen]

Ain't got you, man. I was like, what? Yeah, I got you. Not only was he sitting there, he was sitting like this. Yeah, they got you, man. He was off the golf cart. I was like this, bro. Where were you?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wasn't it all on video?

[Gary Owen]

They got the video, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

Clearly was a rental car. And he took the plates off. This guy was a pro. Took the plates off. They don't have plates, but they. They said literally he came, he tried to get in, two windows, couldn't get in. Looked, got back in his car, pulled to another spot in the parking lot. Keep on. The security guard still hadn't seen him. All right, I'm gonna go for a second round. Got it the second time. So it wasn't like he went. They say he went in. Couldn't get in your windows.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Took a break.

[Gary Owen]

Took a break. Came back, Starbucks came back.

[DJ Envy]

Definitely somebody from the bank, because there's no way they would have known what you had.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I'm saying.

[Gary Owen]

I think it was somebody back to.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

And jugging. They. They tried to explain it to me. And people that listen to your show in Texas will know jugging is a whole racket out there.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

They literally sell to the bank. They wait, they see who's leaving. They'll follow you. So it. In a way, I'm glad it happened how it happened, because I didn't go home, but I went home. That have been worse.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

So at least I went to the. The gym.

[DJ Envy]

Did you go back to the bacon and start thinking, like, could it be you?

[Gary Owen]

Could be you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Could it be.

[Gary Owen]

I don't know. I don't want to say. I don't know. I don't want to stereotype people. Oh, what month is it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Feelings because you're like, I'm an ally.

[Gary Owen]

Huh?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did it hurt your feelings because you're like, I'm an ally?

[Gary Owen]

I know it was a black guy that did it. They got that on camera, man. You guys, you guys. You guys, man. I try to be good to you guys. You do this to me, of all people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know you felt that way. For real.

[Gary Owen]

A little bit.

[Jess Hilarious]

How do y' all celebrate Black History Month in your house?

[Gary Owen]

We. We stop on the 14th leap year. We go till noon on the 50th. Right.

[Jess Hilarious]

Just want to know how y' all do it.

[Gary Owen]

Hit that gumbo and then we have Kich the rest of the month. Dairy free. Dairy free. Queso.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's so stupid, man, listen.

[Gary Owen]

So stupid. Those Netflix specials are stupid that they're green.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yo.

[Gary Owen]

My goodness, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm telling you, I see it.

[Gary Owen]

All of them suck that way. Monique can't get mad because I said they all.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nope, you started with her.

[Gary Owen]

But she. Okay, you're a comedian. You gotta let the joke ride. That is, don't cut it off at the beginning because my plan was to go in on everybody. And I strategically said Monique first because I knew it would draw rise out of you. But if you listen to the whole interview, you will know I went on Everybody.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nobody does that.

[Gary Owen]

Nope.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Everybody gonna get their own individual clips in.

[Gary Owen]

Good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's gonna look like you just going.

[Podcast Host]

In on me should post all the individual clips.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, no, I'm terrible. I already know. I'm sending down to him by itself. Especially I'm sending Donnell today.

[Gary Owen]

That was super bad.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God, does he have one?

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, I don't even know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Okay, we gotta use Donnell's as the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Clip to go out.

[DJ Envy]

The clip that goes out, gotta be.

[Gary Owen]

Him going at Donald.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, no, I'm sending this.

[Gary Owen]

Gary.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm saying I'm Gary On.

[Gary Owen]

Why is he so mad all the time? You wish, Chappelle. You live in Ohio. Relax.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A New Day. You never saw A New Day.

[Gary Owen]

I don't watch specials like. That was the name of it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, it was on Netflix.

[Jess Hilarious]

Sounds.

[Gary Owen]

That was a stupid name. New day for what, Joe? For you to open up for Chappelle again.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, my God, G, come on, Gary. What? Chill out, Gary.

[DJ Envy]

Nobody wants to fight you, Gary.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I bet these are jokes.

[Gary Owen]

I'm not serious. A little bit serious. Not a lot, though.

[Podcast Host]

Can you fight, though?

[Gary Owen]

No. I don't know, maybe. That'd be awful, though. If you get in a fight, you just knock somebody out. Like I missed my calling.

[Jess Hilarious]

I'm talking about you.

[Gary Owen]

I had the one hit. A quitter, huh?

[Jess Hilarious]

You dating. You've been dating black women all your life. You don't know how to fight?

[Gary Owen]

I don't know if I do. I wasn't able to get out of it. I'd say scary.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And you fighting the women.

[Gary Owen]

What does that. Hear me? The scariest I've ever been around black people. This honest guy.

[Jess Hilarious]

Truth.

[Gary Owen]

I took this girl. I'm like 17, 18, took this girl. See Menace to Society at the theater. Oh, you've been in a black theater. Right. And right outside of D.C. right.

[Julian Edelman]

Geez.

[Gary Owen]

We go for one. She starts an argument with the two guys behind us.

[DJ Envy]

They kick the chair.

[Gary Owen]

I don't know what they did, but they were so cool. And I'm sitting here like, why is she arguing with them? I'm the only white guy in the theater. And then she's like. The dude's like. She goes, huh? What'd you say? And he's like, we wasn't talking to you. She goes, okay, you better not be talking to me. And I'm thinking, please don't say. Please don't say. Because then I. I gotta. What am I doing? Thank God they were calm. Brothers, right? We leave the theater after Menace Society went to the Late Show. So now it's like, midnight and my car won't start. I had an Oldsmobile Cutlass, it's just the battery's dead. So now you got. It was like the scene of boys in the hood. All these cars just circling, everybody shrinking. I'm walking around. Anyway, I got jumper cables. I kid you not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

At what?

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, this is the last date, I kid you not. At one point, I had some brother pull up in the BMW. He got the hood popped. He got the jumper cables. I got one brother behind the wheel trying to start. I go. I don't know if they're robbing me or trying to help me with this. Literally just sitting like this. She had to call her brother to come pick her up. So I never saw her again. But just, like, my car never started, never started. This is for Uber, so I had to call somebody on the base to come pick me up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, God.

[Gary Owen]

I was there, like, three in the morning. Is it.

[Jess Hilarious]

It's true that your dad cheated on your mother with a black girl?

[DJ Envy]

Damn.

[Gary Owen]

I don't know if he cheated on. He cheated on with a lot of people, but I don't know. I don't know if it's black. I know he slept with the black girl. Okay, One girl. Her name was Joy. He told me that. I don't know why he shared that with me, but that's what he shared.

[Jess Hilarious]

And that's it.

[Gary Owen]

I don't know. To me, like, in Black Girls is like being gay. Like, gay guys know they're gay. They don't know why. They're just gay. The same way you were born. Always like, black girls from Jump. Like. Like many good times and different strokes. And, you know, I was like, whoa, who's that? Janet Jackson. That's Willis's girlfriend.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

See, I know more about black history than you during Black History Month.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, okay, she was mad, but we were mad young too. I'm saying yeah, okay, that makes sense.

[Gary Owen]

But you used to. But you would watch After School. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like good times.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know I wasn't old enough to.

[Gary Owen]

Watch it when it aired in prime time. But after school, it was always like. But what was. What was the Michael J. Fox Family Ties. You remember Family Ties would come after school. Good times to come on. And then different strokes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So fine.

[Gary Owen]

That was so fine.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Bernadette's still fine right now.

[Gary Owen]

She is fine.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, right now.

[Gary Owen]

Was it Stannis? Bernadette, Stannis still fine. And then Facts of Life was too.

[Jess Hilarious]

D.

[Gary Owen]

I worry about them other girls.

[Podcast Host]

Were you the first white guy that a black woman dates? And you go meet her family, they be cool because they know who you are.

[Gary Owen]

I'm cool. Always getting good with the women first. I got a strategic way to do that. You don't try to get in with the fellas. Go in the kitchen, hang out, tell them how good the food is. You're good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, so you're a manipulator.

[Gary Owen]

I'm not a manipulator. It is good. So flavorful. Get in with the women. This is my mom. This is my aunt. This is my sister. You just.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh.

[Jess Hilarious]

Have you ever been to Africa?

[Gary Owen]

Then they come out. He cool? Nah, he cool. Yeah. So it's easy.

[Jess Hilarious]

Have you ever been in Africa? Been to Africa?

[Gary Owen]

No, no, no. I've been to Michael Blackson's house in Africa.

[Jess Hilarious]

In Philly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shut the fuck up, man.

[Gary Owen]

In Philly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How long has this interview been, man? Too long. How long? How long? How long?

[DJ Envy]

We had 30, 40 minutes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's a special. That's a special. I just want to get you the special. Time. I just wanted to get you the special. Yeah, that's a special.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, it's better than most of them. Most people would already turned them off. Terrible ass special. I can't wait to see what they put out this month.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yo, earthquakes was good.

[Gary Owen]

Awful. Garbage.

[Jess Hilarious]

It was short, but it was really.

[Gary Owen]

Quakes was garbage.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is there anybody you like, though?

[Gary Owen]

Nope. Not until I get one. In real life, they're all garbage. Jesus. Lunel's was garbage. Stop. All of them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, Chappelle did all of those too.

[Gary Owen]

That's because he doesn't want people threatening him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How can you. How have you not done Chappelle's show in Ohio? You right there.

[Gary Owen]

They don't invite me. No, Too funny.

[DJ Envy]

Damn, Gary.

[Jess Hilarious]

What about Netflix is a joke. That festival, by the way, this year is the last. This the last year that they're doing.

[Gary Owen]

It should be. It should be because it's garbage.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, okay.

[Gary Owen]

Should be. Yeah, it should be the last year. Netflix is a joke special.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why?

[Gary Owen]

Why? You know what's a joke? The people making the decisions on specials. Damn. They're the joke. Robbie Prah. I'm the only one balls enough to say his name. He's the one that says no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know who that is.

[Gary Owen]

Robbie. Give him a chance.

[DJ Envy]

Robbie.

[Gary Owen]

No.

[Jess Hilarious]

Is this how you get him to call you, though?

[Gary Owen]

I'm like Morgan Freeman and Shawshank. You just write your little pen, do what you're gonna do, because frankly, I don't give a. I gotta hit parole bang in Mexico with Andy Dufresne working on a boat. That's all right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I hit both sides.

[Podcast Host]

I don't know if this is helping you or hurting you.

[Gary Owen]

Does it matter? Does it matter? They say no anyway. They're like a girl I've been asking out for 10 years that keeps saying no. I'm just gonna keep asking her out.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

One day she might get weak.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So if, you know, if your special never happens on Netflix, do you see that as a loss or just proof of success? Doesn't always need the end logo.

[Gary Owen]

You don't need. We're in a great time for Stand Uponsley because you can literally look at Mojo Brooks. Look at myself, look at Nate Jackson. Like, all these guys. Ali Sadiq got all these guys out there that are doing it on their own. Which, if you got the camera and whatever you're saying resonates with the people that are watching. Except for it's on their phones now anyways. You know what I mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Netflix is on your phone. It's mobile.

[Gary Owen]

It is, but so's YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got it on my phone right here.

[Gary Owen]

See, look.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I was watching something earlier.

[Gary Owen]

Really? Let me watch my clip that got 80 million views. Let me watch that one.

[Jess Hilarious]

That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was watching Breakfast Club on there earlier.

[Gary Owen]

Oh, really?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Netflix?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

Let me see what I was watching.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And you know what's so cool? They got this clips app, so you can clip whatever part of the. The interview or whatever you want.

[DJ Envy]

You can send it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

So tomorrow when you're on, you know, we can send it to people. So that way, good, you know.

[Gary Owen]

You think I care? You think I don't see these people? Anyways? When's the last time I saw Andrew Schultz? 10 years ago. I don't know. When you guys tried to bust me for cheating.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I wasn't there.

[Gary Owen]

You were right there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was not there.

[Gary Owen]

You were Right there, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I was there. You talking about when you choked?

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, that's the question.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Your body tried to bust you for cheating, Gary. I know.

[Gary Owen]

That was wild. That was wild. And you just kept going, gary, what's left to be faithful? Feels good. Yeah. I'm such a liar right now.

[DJ Envy]

Jesus Christ.

[Gary Owen]

Why are you asking me that?

[Podcast Host]

Right?

[Jess Hilarious]

Like, why would you say that?

[Gary Owen]

I was like, can this straw get any longer?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know the context of that conversation.

[Gary Owen]

Schultz said, charlemagne, I'm gonna get you back to cheating this year. That's my goal. And he was like, no, no, no, I'm not doing that. And they go, gary, how long you been married? And I was like, 16 years ago. How long you been faithful? I went 16 weeks. It was so bad. Sorry about that.

[DJ Envy]

Is that what really did it for you? What, that interview?

[Gary Owen]

No, no, no. That interview.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They did use that in court, though.

[Gary Owen]

Not in court, okay. They brought it up in mediation. So it wasn't. We settled. Yeah, so it wasn't. We never went to trial. We just settled. Once you. Once you get the emotions out of it and talk, what do you need to be comfortable? I think a good divorce is the guy thinks he paid too much and the girl thinks she didn't get enough. That's a good divorce.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's a good negotiation, period.

[DJ Envy]

You're good.

[Gary Owen]

You feel like you're both screwed. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No hard feelings.

[Angela Yee]

That's right.

[Gary Owen]

No hard feelings, baby. Yeah. We always think of the bad times. We had a lot of good times together.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

You know what I mean?

[Jess Hilarious]

Would you get married again?

[Gary Owen]

I would. Yep. I would.

[Jess Hilarious]

Okay.

[Gary Owen]

Yep. So now you know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If you was drinking, you to choke just now. Look, would you get married again? Gary?

[Gary Owen]

Easy. Ask me something else. Ask me something else you think I'm lying about.

[Podcast Host]

So there were rumors that you proposed to your current girlfriend.

[Gary Owen]

Yep.

[Jess Hilarious]

You did.

[Gary Owen]

Okay. Okay, Gary. Big Gary.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Stand on my ground.

[Gary Owen]

You got me up right now. Talk that talk. Yeah, I did. I did.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, congratulations.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, congratulations.

[Gary Owen]

That. Huh?

[Podcast Host]

Did you post about that?

[Gary Owen]

She did.

[Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Gary Owen]

I didn't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why?

[Gary Owen]

I didn't know she was gonna post about it. She just did it. I was like, whoa, I thought we're gonna keep this low.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, so you didn't like it or share it or nothing?

[Gary Owen]

It's not. I didn't like it. It was just. I thought we were keeping this, like, off. I thought we were keeping it somewhat off the Internet because everything I went through with the other one, I heard everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Gary Owen]

I think you should do that with your Partner. You support all their posts.

[Jess Hilarious]

Exactly. You know, even if you don't really look at them, you just hardly scroll.

[Gary Owen]

Oh, you posted something.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah. Did you have a talk after you posted it? I mean, after she posted it?

[Gary Owen]

No, I was like. I just was like, oh, I didn't know. I wasn't tripping. I was just like, oh, I didn't know. Yeah, I'm not tripping. People are gonna find out anyways with people like her.

[Podcast Host]

Well, I was just confused because it was like a video that was circulating at one point. Right. Of the proposal.

[Gary Owen]

I don't know.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, it was something that I saw and then I didn't see it. I didn't see you say anything about it. So I was trying to figure it out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Set you up, guy. You don't even see it.

[Gary Owen]

I know. I see where this is going.

[DJ Envy]

I'm glad you guys made it. I'm glad you guys are good.

[Gary Owen]

No, we're gonna get married when I get Netflix special one. Yo. Yo wins the date. Well, that's up to Robbie.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Pr.

[Podcast Host]

How do you spell his last name?

[Gary Owen]

Yo, Gary.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's not like when he was like, I'll marry Cardi. I gotta get my ring first.

[Gary Owen]

Get my ring first. That's great. That was a great line.

[DJ Envy]

Well, a, no hard feelings to what's happening now. Most of it sold out already, so good luck getting tickets. Ladies and gentlemen, Gary Owen. We appreciate you and.

[Angela Yee]

And do you. Yes.

[Gary Owen]

Do Donnell Rollins real quick. Do you?

[Jess Hilarious]

Do you?

[Gary Owen]

Do you really? We do a garbage ass Netflix special.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, my damn.

[Gary Owen]

Sorry.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cut this for me right now. Quick. I need to send this to Donnell right now.

[Gary Owen]

It's Gary Owen.

[Jess Hilarious]

Always good to see you.

[DJ Envy]

It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm going tell Don.

[Gary Owen]

Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club show.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all done.

[Julian Edelman]

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[Angela Yee]

This is Angela Yee from Angela Yee's Lip Service. Every day Planned Parenthood health centers across the country open their doors and provide high quality expert health care. That's no simple task when lawmakers are trying to block access to life saving care like birth control. Cancer screenings, STI testing, abortion and more. At Planned Parenthood, Care continues because they believe your body is your business and being able to control your own body, that's the most basic freedom there is. So Planned Parenthood won't back down. Visit I'm4pp.org to learn more and get involved.

[DJ Envy]

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[Jess Hilarious]

It's your girl, Jess. Hilarious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I go by the name of Charlamagne Tha God. And we are the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club. You just finished listening to, you know, our podcast for the day.

[DJ Envy]

That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And we want you to go watch the visuals on Netflix. You know, we we're still on YouTube, but it's the clips on YouTube. But if you want to watch the Breakfast Club in full, if you want to see what you just listen, listen to, go to Netflix.

[DJ Envy]

That's right.

[Jess Hilarious]

Find us on Netflix.

[Gary Owen]

Sure.

[Podcast Host]

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.