INTERVIEW: Kehlani Talks New Music, AI 'Artists', Activism, Motherhood + More

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Breakfast Club — Interview with Kehlani

Date: December 8, 2025
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God
Guest: Kehlani

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Episode Overview

The Breakfast Club welcomes singer-songwriter Kehlani to discuss the journey behind her chart-topping single "Folded," her perspectives on being an artist in the age of AI, ongoing activism (especially regarding Palestine), mental health, motherhood, artist vulnerability, and the impact of public scrutiny on personal life. The conversation is candid, at times raw, and often philosophical, balancing humor with depth.

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Main Topics & Insights

Correct Pronunciation and Growth (02:59–04:00)

• Kehlani sets the tone by asking everyone to pronounce her name correctly (Kay-LAH-nee), stating at 30, she’s claiming her identity outright:
  • “It's been 10 years. My name [pronounced] wrong for 10 years.” (Kehlani, 03:24)
  • “I'm 30 now...let’s just get. You know, it’s been 10 years.” (03:31)

The Story Behind "Folded" (04:02–06:42)

• Accidental Creation: The song came together unexpectedly during a trip to finish another feature.
• Emotional Nuance: Kehlani shares how the song’s message is more about mature communication than breakup drama:
  • “It’s more of like a nuanced, mature conversation...you did hurt me, but we also need to speak.” (Kehlani, 06:09)
  • Asserts the song reflects her mental and musical maturation.

Vulnerability, Mental Health, and Evolution (06:53–10:28)

• Personal Growth: Kehlani discusses the impact of turning 30, her Saturn return, and being one year into her mental health medication journey:
  • “I have so much option for process now...I have a tool belt of things I can apply.” (Kehlani, 08:05)
• On Vulnerability in Art:
  • “I've always been messily vulnerable. But I grew up in front of the world.” (Kehlani, 09:39)
  • She talks about evolving in public and the discomfort of being timestamped by fans.

Activism and The Costs of Speaking Out (10:30–15:03)

• Palestine Advocacy:
  • Kehlani reflects on being vocal for Palestine when most artists were silent and the consequences: show bans, threats, personal safety.
  • “I had to move. It put me into really bad paranoia...the death threats I got at my shows, like, highly organized, typed out, detailed death threats.” (Kehlani, 13:41)
• On Other Artists’ Silence:
  • “I wish it wasn't so sinister, like the lashings behind the scene.” (Kehlani, 13:41)
  • If more spoke up, there’d be greater protection in numbers.

AI in Music, Ethics, and Identity (16:11–28:06)

• Skepticism about AI 'Artists':
  • Kehlani strongly critiques the rise of AI musicians for environmental, economic, creative, and spiritual reasons.
    • “It's just unfortunate because I think music is such a God given thing...for it to be generated in that way...feels wrong to me." (Kehlani, 17:59)
  • On the dangers of AI-generated personas:
    • “When you wake up one day and somebody has a sex tape of you that never happened… That’s happening now.” (Kehlani, 19:27–19:39)
  • Calls for transparency and separation:
    • “Maybe it can have its separate charts...something has to be done.” (Kehlani, 24:56)
• On AI’s Societal Impact:
  • Fears isolation and the decline of real community, love, and art if AI replaces human connections.
    • “We're entering a very individualistic, let's kill community for people kind of world. Like, we're isolating everyone from every side.” (Kehlani, 28:43)

Motherhood and Navigating Technology (29:10–30:50)

• Parenting Approach:
  • Prioritizes information and open dialogue with her daughter:
    • “I give her all the information possible...at home, we're very, like, human focused, and I'm very communal.” (Kehlani, 29:29–30:14)
  • Kehlani protects her daughter's childhood, ensuring she’s not drawn into adult issues.

Family, Fame, and Privacy (31:09–35:00)

• Surveillance Culture:
  • Expresses the challenges of raising a daughter and maintaining relationships amid high public scrutiny and social media:
    • “We've...become police...somebody’s taking screenshots...posting it on their story like, 'y'all got Kehlani’s number'...whole time, it’s just my real life.” (Kehlani, 31:11–33:05)
• Controlling Her Narrative:
  • On having to bare her soul to be seen as 'decent' and tamping down rumors:
    • “The more mysterious you are, the more people...I've seen the craziest things about myself.” (Kehlani, 34:08)
  • Shares rumors she’s heard and how public figures are subject to relentless speculation.

Policing, Safety, and Community (35:00–37:39)

• Anti-Police Stance:
  • Kehlani outlines her critique of policing rooted in community safety and larger social structures.
    • “There should not be an extension of the government that is able to do things like this with no consequence. They don’t answer to anyone. They are gang members." (Kehlani, 35:57)
  • Attempts to ban police from her shows didn’t gain enough traction to force venues to change.

Co-Parenting and Legal Struggles (37:43–41:07)

• Custody Battle:
  • Now has full custody of her daughter, had to remain mostly silent during public disputes for legal and child protection reasons.
    • “When you see your child’s name attached to these things...that’s a bit of a Heartbreaker...I probably learned the most about God through that situation because I was on my own.” (Kehlani, 38:37–39:46)
  • Stresses focusing on her daughter's wellbeing over public perception.

Influence, Legacy, and Musical Inspiration (41:12–43:43)

• Mount Rushmore of Singers (Artist/Vocalist Edition):
  • Brandy, Beyoncé, Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey (vocal)
  • Stevie Wonder (artistry)
  • “She [Brandy] should be on everyone’s vocal Mount Rushmore, 100%.” (Kehlani, 41:32)
  • Acknowledges legacy of church-bred singers like Patti LaBelle, Aretha Franklin.

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Notable Quotes

• “I think I've always been messily vulnerable...but I grew up in front of the world.” (Kehlani, 09:39)
• “Music is such a God given thing...for it to be generated in that way and also be what it's, what it's using to be generated is a combination of real people's stories and real people's voices...” (Kehlani, 17:59)
• “I wish it wasn't so sinister, like the lashings behind the scene...If it’s a lot of people, who can they get? There's a bunch of us.” (Kehlani, 13:41)
• “There should not be an extension of the government that is able to do things like this with no consequence. They don’t answer to anyone. They are gang members." (Kehlani, 35:57)
• “If we’re all just going to be alone, getting all those things from a robot, like, we’re going to stunt ourselves as a world, as a species.” (Kehlani, 28:22)
• “I've just been my daughter’s mom the whole time. How everyone else gets to see me is never gonna be how she sees me, because I'm just her mommy.” (Kehlani, 30:25)
• “The more mysterious you are, the more people...I've seen the craziest things about myself.” (Kehlani, 34:08)

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Key Timestamps

• 02:59 – Kehlani asks for correct pronunciation
• 04:02–06:42 – Story behind "Folded" and its mental state origins
• 06:53 – Shift in songwriting, mental health progress, Saturn return
• 10:30 – On activism for Palestine and cost of speaking out
• 13:41 – The cost of open advocacy and consequences
• 16:11–28:06 – Geopolitics, AI, music industry, dangers of artificial artistry
• 29:10–30:50 – Parenting in an AI/tech-saturated world
• 31:09–35:00 – Surveillance, fame, public/private boundaries
• 35:00–37:39 – Policing, show security, systemic critiques
• 37:43–41:07 – Co-parenting, legal battles, and lessons learned
• 41:12–43:43 – The vocal “Mount Rushmore,” influences in her music

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Overall Tone and Takeaways

Kehlani’s interview on The Breakfast Club is a testament to personal growth, courage in vulnerability, and artistic integrity. Across topics—from resisting AI’s creep into music and fighting for justice, to candidly sharing mental health battles and parenting philosophies—she remains relatable, thoughtful, and empowering, refusing to sacrifice authenticity for public approval.

For fans and new listeners alike, this episode is a vivid look at one artist’s search for wholeness and meaning in an increasingly complex world.

Transcript

[Host 1]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Lon LaRose]

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[Kehlani]

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[State Farm Advertiser]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club.

[Kehlani]

Y' all finished or y' all done?

[DJ Envy]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne. Tha God. We are the breakfast club. Lon LaRose is here as well. We got a special guest in the building.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, indeed.

[DJ Envy]

Number one record. The record is flying on the charts. We play it, what, every hour on the hour? Damn near.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's one of my wife's favorite records right now.

[State Farm Advertiser]

Fold it.

[DJ Envy]

Ladies and gentlemen, Kehlani. Welcome.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Hey.

[Kehlani]

Hey, guys.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How are you, Kehlani?

[Kehlani]

Really good. How are you?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I am blessed, black, and highly favorite. How's your energy?

[Kehlani]

It's good. Can I. Can. Can I tell you guys something before we start?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, of course.

[Kehlani]

It's very important that during this era of my life, I let everyone know that my name is pronounced Kehlani.

[Host 1]

Kehlani.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who said otherwise?

[Kehlani]

You guys say Kelani.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I always say Kehlani.

[Kehlani]

You just said Kelani. You're the one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning, Kehlani.

[Kehlani]

Good morning. I'm really good. How are you guys?

[Host 1]

This might be, like, a stupid question, but, like, why this? Why right now? Why haven't you been correcting people?

[Kehlani]

You know what? I feel like I have here and there.

[Pluvicto Advertiser]

Okay.

[Kehlani]

But then, like, it just blows under. Like, nobody cares. Everybody just says how they want to say. It's not that big of a deal. I have family members who say, kalani got you. But, you know, I'm like, I'm 30 now. I'm feeling a little like, let's just get. You know, it's been 10 years. My name wrong for 10 years.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, we all like to create safe spaces for ourselves.

[Kehlani]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't think you can create a safe space of people calling you out your wrong name. Because I think if I was doing an interview and somebody said Kelani and the whole interview probably be thinking, I should have corrected him. I should have corrected him. I should have corrected him.

[Kehlani]

But no one wants to be that person. As, like, sour as the moment. It's like, by the way, scratch that. Yeah, you should. So here we are now. Now you guys know.

[DJ Envy]

How does it feel? Folded number one. How is that feeling?

[Kehlani]

It feels really good. It's been a long time coming. I've been getting told for the last eight years of my life, you know, you're always one song away. You're one song away. You're one song away. We see it for you. And so to have the song and everything be changing in this way, it's really nice.

[DJ Envy]

Did you know that was the record when y' all did it? Would you did you know that was going to be it?

[Kehlani]

No, it was the most accidental thing in the world. Like, even making it was accidental. Came about accidentally. I'm in la, I get a call to come finish this feature, but the guy's like, I'm about to go on this massive tour. Like, but so you have to come finish it with me in person. Bring the producers. Come to Miami. Bring the producers. We go to Miami, and for two days, we just can't figure out this song that we're supposed to finish. And we didn't want. We didn't want to waste the time, so we went to a studio house with Don Mills, who actually plays the guitar on the song. And Dre Harris came, and the first beat he played was the folded beat from his boy, dk, the Punisher. And I bring it in the other room, and I just keep singing this hook, and everybody's like, that's really cool. Like, let's build on it. And we stayed there for a week, but every single day after, you know, we made that song, it'd be the one song from the camp that we just kept replaying. And I hit my label, and I was like, I don't know. Like, I know you guys are looking for. What is it? It's like, is it June or July at this time? I'm not sure. I know you guys are looking for, like, the club single, the Banger. This is not that. Like, this isn't really Song of the Summer. I don't. But this feels like an introduction to, like, where I'm at mentally, musically, my, you know, maturation in my, like, my Sonic Journey. And let me just tease it. Like, let me put it out. You guys don't have to, you know, don't freak out, but it feels good. And it just kind of, like, took its own life. And there we are.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It takes a lot of emotional intelligence to fold a man's clothes and tell him, come get him, instead of just throwing them all over the lawn.

[Kehlani]

Well, I mean, I'm definitely not folding a man's clothes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, well, yeah, perfect.

[Kehlani]

Anyone's clothes. Yeah. But I think it's a very nuanced perspective, and I'm watching a lot of people be on this, you know, really extreme side of it, either, like, Kehlani's way better than me. You're close to being a trash can or blue trash.

[DJ Envy]

I'm not taking time for that.

[Host 1]

Right.

[Kehlani]

Or they're like, yeah, I'm folding instantly. I'm folding the clothes. And. And I said, who cares if they did wrong in the song. I verbatim say, like, I probably should have asked for space, but I kinda told you to walk away, which means I probably jumped the gun and I overreacted and I need to express to you that you did hurt me, but also maybe come over so we can talk about it. So it's more of like a nuanced, mature conversation existing. That's kind of like both, you did hurt me, but we also need to speak. And I also might have not, you know, handled this the right way and let's just get in the same place and get in each other's face and come talk about it. And I'm gonna use your clothes as bait.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I like this, guys. Oh, go ahead.

[Host 1]

Yeah, no, go ahead.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're choosing vulnerability over wearing emotional armor.

[Kehlani]

Yeah, exactly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So what shifted in your real life that allowed that change?

[Kehlani]

I think something happens when you, you know, you're turning 30. I mean, astrologically, something major happens. You go through a Saturn return. And outside of that, I just, I've been through a lot and the last couple years I've really spent, you know, making the changes I needed to make. I know I saw you guys last time, we talked about mental health and all those, you know, it's been a year since then. I think when I came to you guys last time I was a into being diagnosed, I had just started medication. I'm now a year into like that journey. Very settled in, very in my routine, very, very healthy and being able to assess myself and assess my situations and, you know, just be on top of my stuff. Honestly, that allowed me to be able to come to a place to write from the perspective I'm able to write from now.

[DJ Envy]

Were you ever on the other side? Meaning were you ever the person to throw the clothes in the bag and then throw the clothes out the window?

[Kehlani]

Oh, for sure. Oh yeah.

For sure. Of course.

[DJ Envy]

So it was a growth. It was a growth.

[Lon LaRose]

Evolution.

[Kehlani]

Yeah. I've been like a 25 year old girl before. Yeah, for sure.

[Host 1]

What has your journey been like since you said last time they saw you? It was like first week of you, you know, what has your personal journey been like? You know, using your medicines now and kind of understanding, you know, your body and your mental. That what does that up and down or consistency been like and how it's been different for you?

[Kehlani]

Yeah, I mean, bipolar disorder is a really layered thing that also, because it's so stigmatized in the world and there's so many jokes about it that I think people get really Confused, you know, they think, okay, I woke up with an attitude, and then later on I felt better. Then I had an attitude. So I'm bipolar. It's a way bigger, deeper thing than that. And I think medicine and my therapy journey gave me the opportunity to have thought applied to my mood and thought applied to situations when, you know, there, like, in other ways, I wouldn't have had the thought. I would have just felt it, and it would have just left. And next thing you know, there's episodical things happening, and next thing you know, I'm just gone with the win. But this, I wouldn't say it stops it completely, but it really allows you to have a process. And I think that that's been the biggest difference is I have so much, like, so much option for process now, and I can go through these things and take them slowly and think about them and, like, have a second where I'm like, you know, I have the tools now. I have a tool belt of things I can apply. Like, do I go this way? Do I take a walk? Do I. Like, this is not the reaction that I want to. This is not the version of myself that I want to show up in this situation. So things like that.

[DJ Envy]

I think I always say it's difficult being vulnerable, right? For an artist, how difficult is that? Because you're showing a side of yourself that I'm sure you think that maybe people will laugh. But then on the other side, I'm sure as a side, it says, there's so many people dealing with it. And I love the fact artists are doing them all. We've seen it with Gucci, the same thing. So when did you realize I could be that vulnerable? And was it a hard line to draw, to be like, do I want to be this vulnerable? Do I want to share this experience?

[Kehlani]

I think I've always been messily vulnerable.

But I grew up in front of the world. You know, everybody's been seeing me do interviews like this since I was 19 years old. And I think when you're viewing it on the outside, you kind of timestamp people. Like artists get timestamped in whatever version of themselves stuck out to the fan. So there's people who still view me as something I went through when I was 24, and, like, that's who they'll see me as forever. And when you're 24 at that time, you're also confidently speaking in these interviews because you're like, this is who I am right now. And I get it. Then 10 years later, you're like, oh, my God.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know who that person is.

[Kehlani]

I mean, it's not. Hasn't been 10 years for me, but I'm 30 now, and I'm looking back at things I said when I was 24, 25, even 27, and I'm like, yikes. Even a year ago, I'm like, okay, like growth. I'm different now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's good, though. And you have the self awareness to that.

[Kehlani]

That's how it's supposed to go. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, this has to feel good to you too. The success of Folded, because vocally, you were one of the first artists I saw publicly showing support for Palestine. And I mean, you spoke out when a lot of people weren't. I know you lost shows because of it. You were barred from things. How does it feel having this success? And you have it for being on the right side of history.

[Kehlani]

Yeah, I think it shows that the things that we're afraid of are more. I don't know what the word is. Not handleable. That's not a word. But, like, you know what you mean.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Kehlani]

Like, we can. If. If we have the courage to do things, and then we see people have success after doing the things that we deem scary, we might be more courageous to do them. And I think it's important that other artists see that I've been able to thrive after all those things happen. I mean, there's still things that I will never be allowed to do or things that are not getting picked up or even now. Oh, yeah, for sure. Probably forever. I don't think people realize how deep it goes. I didn't even at the time realize how deep it goes. Also, to be really frank, I was incredibly manic. So a lot of the routes that I went, the yelling and the. You f. All you guys. If you guys don't understand. And da, da, da. And you know what? Half my team could go if y' all don't speak. Just these different routes versus, like, hey, let me calm down and be strategic about this. Because in every single movement, in every single political. Yeah. Movement across the board, there's more strategy involved in the way that you communicate it, the way that you choose to organize the things that you engage with. And at the time, I didn't really have those resources to think in that way.

So, yeah, there's still. There's still things that I'm experiencing that I probably will experience for a really long time. But I think this other side of it is speaking to the fact that when there's Great music. There's great music. And when people love the music and they love the art, then you can't really be taken out in that way.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm a stern believer that you should always move off strategy over emotion, but you can understand the emotion when you're watching kids.

[Kehlani]

Yes. It's so understandable. I have so much grace for how I handled it, because I was really just passionate and upset. I was angry. We should have all been angry. It was really terrible to watch and treacherous to feel some kind of a part of because our country is such a big part of it. Um, but I definitely wish that I was able to calm myself, to be smarter about the way that I went about it for my own sake and for being a leader in front of a camera for other people.

[DJ Envy]

And how do you feel when other artists don't speak about it when they have the opportunity?

[Lon LaRose]

Do you look.

[DJ Envy]

How does that feel to you? Because you jumped out the window and you got banned from things.

[Kehlani]

And I think it's really easy to say, like, I want to be very clear with my words. Like, it is really easy to say that I hate them for it or I'm. I really blame them. But after experiencing everything I went through, which went way deeper than just being banned from things that, you know, got into my safety, my family dynamics, my friendships, I had to move. It put me into really bad paranoia. Every time I left the house of, was everybody out to get me? And did I need security to sit in front of my house? And was anybody plotting on me? And the death threats I got at my shows, like, highly organized, typed out, detailed death threats.

It's easy to say, like, that shouldn't matter because we should all be, you know, up in arms and. And part of me is like, yeah, we should. But also, I wish there was. It wasn't so sinister, like the lashings behind the scene. I wish it wasn't so sinister, and I wish it wasn't something to be afraid of. I think if we all spoke in numbers and there was so many of us, it wouldn't be so easy to just come after one person. I think when you leave it to be one or two people, it's easy to just get them out of here. We've seen it historically, but if it's a lot of people, who can they get? There's a bunch of us.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did it make you speak out even more? Because you did at the red carpet on the AMAs, you voiced support for Palestine. So when you were getting backlash behind the scenes, you were like, nah, I'm gonna go out there even more.

[Kehlani]

I just. Like, I was. Like, I'm already here. Like, I'm already experiencing everything I'm experiencing. And it hasn't stopped. Like, it hasn't stopped. Like, still, you know, ceasefire and all still hasn't stopped. And if. Even if, you know, the genocide itself does stop, there's a much larger thing at. At hand there, which is, you know, ending the apartheid. So I don't know. I don't think it was ever, like, an intentional. I'm gonna choose to speak. I was asked a question on the carpet, and I answered it, and my stance remains the same. So.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, it's just interesting that you would still be getting back, like, because even the UN chief said there are strong reasons to believe that war crimes have been committed. It.

[Kehlani]

Yeah, we're dealing. We're dealing with a very delusional other side. It's a very delusional side where you have shown videos and you've shown facts and they've seen things, and the response is literally, that's not even real. Like, y' all made this up. You know, like, you kind of at some point have to be like, okay, there's a game here, and I'm not gonna play this game with you guys, because you know what you're doing. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna play it.

[DJ Envy]

So you also.

[Host 1]

I was mentioning ice. Right. The comment. I saw the comments about, you know, you speaking out on ice, and I'm going into schools and things of that. I know you're a mom. Yeah. As well. But, like, has there. Have you experienced any similar pushback from the other side or wherever because of those comments?

[Kehlani]

No. Yeah. Yeah. Zionism is a much larger, deeper, darker, sinister thing than good old regular American racism, even though they're very intertwined and they walk hand in hand with each other a little bit. But, yeah, no, I haven't experienced any pushback from that. I think we're all more comfortable talking about that in general than, you know, anything else.

[DJ Envy]

So I was gonna ask, you know, we also seen you speak out about AI in the industry.

[Kehlani]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

And the crazy part about it is. I agree with you, but I think it's crazy for an artist. We had Tank and J. Valentine appear, and they were talking about. Yeah, they were talking about. They think it's a good thing and that, you know, artists and the industry needs to adapt to it. But I think it kind of hurts the fact of the creativity.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But they did say it's not better than Kalani.

[Kehlani]

Amen.

[DJ Envy]

So what's your thoughts on it?

[Kehlani]

I think there's so many layers to it. One we're going to put out there that, you know, it's not good for the environment. It's affecting communities everywhere, but especially disparaged black communities in America. It's messing with the water, is messing with the air. Like it's going to make people sick. In the long run, we move on from that and get into all these aspects of music that are being. And jobs. Let's forget music, right? I'm speaking to music because I'm being asked about music, you know, but I'm not. I think there's a much larger thing of like all these little jobs that people are employed to do that is keeping their families going, that is literally feeding everyone around them are just gone. And we don't realize we're training, you know, these systems to do those things. There's things that I understand. I, I think I was told about how it is working for surgeries. Like these robots are helping in surgery.

[DJ Envy]

More precision, they're saying, more precise, you.

[Kehlani]

Know, more precise surgeries. And then there's, you know, like the disabled community and being able to get things done in that way. And I've experienced producers and writers be stuck on something and use it to help or like finish something and then get it replayed or get it remade. And like those aren't exactly things that I'm super mad about. Like I'm not gonna bark at them the same way, but overall as a.

[DJ Envy]

Whole, but a fake person, a fake artist, a fake singer.

[Kehlani]

It's just unfortunate because I think music is such a God given thing. It's, it's, it's the highest gift, you know, God gave to earth. It's used in every single religion across the board to connect with God. It's, it's, it's a very powerful thing. And for it to be generated in that way and also be what it's, what it's using to be generated is a combination of real people's stories and real people's voices and real people's feelings and emotion. And for all that to happen even deeper than, oh, it's going to take our jobs because there's this sensationalized sentence of mine that's like, why do I have to compete with a computer? But it's not about competing. It's more like this is a disruption of something that God gave us. You know what I mean? And that feels wrong to me. Like it's, music is such a, it comes from here. It's given here. And to have that generated through a computer just feels like it's. It's. It just feels wrong.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I like this argument, Kalani. I like this because I feel the same way. It is a download from God. You can't download it from a computer. And. But, you know, now they have. You know, they have Jesus, AI.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You can log on and have meaningful conversations with Jesus, Send Jesus a message, and then.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, they'll send you back a biblical verse.

[Kehlani]

Yeah, I think it's gonna go so far. I think it's gonna go so far. I don't think people are thinking about the negative implications like being able to be framed for things. Being able to have images created of your children that are inappropriate, that lives on people's computers and they can do whatever they want to it.

When you're. When you wake up one day and somebody has a sex tape of you that never happened. Yeah, if they can make.

[Host 1]

That's happening now.

[Kehlani]

Oh, it is. That's what. Have you heard about the people getting the phone calls?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah, that was three years ago.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. They call you and you hear your kids or somebody screaming, oh, I need.

[Kehlani]

X amount of money because my kid got kid. Like, I don't think people are. It's just cute and fun and games now. And you want to make videos of Malcolm X eating a seafood boil with Martin Luther King.

And Michael Jackson and Prince, have an argument about whose funeral was more lit. Like, I've seen them all. You know, it's. But there comes a point when you have to realize that where there's always light and fun, there's always gonna be the extreme of that existing somewhere that we can't access it. And I also think something is real sinister about the White House using so much AI.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, this election year is going to be crazy.

[Kehlani]

Yeah. It's going to be nuts. How are they going to be able to say anything was real or false?

[Host 1]

What do you say to the people? Because I know one of the conversations that you were having was specifically about the $3 million deal. The reported $3 million that Zinah. The AI. The thing I don't even know how.

[Kehlani]

To reference the compute.

[Host 1]

Yeah. The artist that I'm on a guy. Right. There are people that will say all of that is true, but there's good and bad with everything. But on the other hand, you have this black woman who is using her poetry to write lyrics that now is $3 million wealthier and able to do for her family and stuff like that.

[Kehlani]

I mean, I said, even in the times I've spoken about her, I'm not mad at her ability to have done that for herself. I think it's dishonest the way we're speaking about it because I think it's a very interesting thing to be responding to particular comments and saying certain things but not telling the truth. Tell the truth. You wrote a couple lines, you said a couple words, then you framed. I might want it to sound like this and go like this and take from this and make it sound like this and make it appeal in this way and make me look like this and da da da. And it did all of that. You're doing 15 of the job. Let's just be honest about what the 15 of the job is. If you write poetry, I would love to write with a poet. I've written with poets before. They come in, we write together, I turn their words into a song. I use my songwriter brain to apply to their poetry brain, and we make a really beautiful product. But I'm watching her answer these questions and I'm watching the lies accumulate and like tick together in her head to try to figure out what to say. And I'm like, we could just tell the.

[Lon LaRose]

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[IBM Advertiser]

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[Lon LaRose]

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[State Farm Advertiser]

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[Lon LaRose]

Ah, Crisp and refreshing.

[State Farm Advertiser]

That's a game changer right there.

Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime.

[Lon LaRose]

And just like that, we're back at it.

[State Farm Advertiser]

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[Lon LaRose]

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[State Farm Advertiser]

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[Lon LaRose]

That HBCU pride going.

[IBM Advertiser]

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[Kehlani]

IBMiento con una auto injectable.

[Lon LaRose]

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[Kehlani]

In Colorado street and Kennewick.

[Lon LaRose]

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[Kehlani]

To come truth and say what the tool is being used for. And then maybe it can have its separate charts or it can, because you're right, there is no stopping it. I could get shit for being said. It should have its own charts. But at this point, something has to be done.

[DJ Envy]

AI separate, choke with AI. All this. Yes.

[Kehlani]

Let them duke it out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, I heart had created something called guaranteed human.

[Kehlani]

I saw that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So at least they're, you know, if. If. I guess if you. We're going to be human, like the personalities in music. But if one day they do decide to play AI music, it'll still. You'll know this is AI music.

[Kehlani]

Yeah. So I'm. Yeah, it's. It's less about. I. I want everybody to feed their families and be successful. At the end of the day, that, like, that's my wish. If I had one wish in the world, it would be for everybody to have their needs met. So I'm never mad at that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I like what you said, though, because I was going to ask you, what does authentic music have that AI generated music could never have?

[Pluvicto Advertiser]

God.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Word up. Yeah, that's the answer.

[Kehlani]

That's it. I don't. I don't. I don't play with things like that. You know, it's. It's. It's such a deep thing. And I feel like not us being able to. I watched the A artist even talk about God. It's. It is insane. The AI gospel. That is insane. I'm looking in Zanaya Monet. Yeah, I'm looking in Zanaya Monet's comments, and they're saying, sis, you're anointed. No, that's kind of crazy.

[Host 1]

I mean, I'm gonna go look at the comments right now. But I will say, when I first heard the song, when everybody was up in arms, I had to listen to the music and I went and listened and I was like, oh, this is actually, like, it's good music.

[Kehlani]

Because you know what it's doing Though it's analyzing the community that she's trying to appeal to. Which means it's studying black women, saying what do black women want to hear? What perspectives, what type of voices, what kind of stories, what kind of emotions. And then accumulating all of that and going, I'm about to you a package deal of exactly what you want, even down to what I look like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So it's an artificial anointing. Can it be an artificial anointing?

[Kehlani]

Artificial. I don't know if that goes in there. I don't know if that goes in the same sentence. But you know, hey, are you against.

[DJ Envy]

The chat GPT stuff as well?

[Kehlani]

I'm against people putting it in place of very human things. Look, we are entering.

[DJ Envy]

Makes life easier for a lot of people.

[Kehlani]

It does. And that's the argument. It does because kids go to school.

[DJ Envy]

You could type in a page. I have to do a report on this. Type it in. ChatGPT, right? 10 page report. Does that make kids?

[Kehlani]

The argument of like people who can't afford English classes that moved here and need English classes is teaching them English. Like there are. There's always going to be this thing that's like there are things that it is good for and there are things that it is bad for outside of, you know, what's it doing, what it's doing to the environment. But we become gluttonous with it and it's there. It's not regulated, guys. That's really the problem is that it's not regulated. Did you not see the moments where people were telling their GP or chad GBT to. To cancel itself and then it hopped servers to avoid getting deleted?

[Host 1]

Like iRobot.

[Kehlani]

Yes, it hopped. I promise you can look this up right now. It jumped servers because it didn't want to get. If. If it can observe all of our emotions, why couldn't it be able to think of something as sinister as we could think of and not want to get canceled or not want to get deleted or not want to be gone or want to. It's studying us 24 7.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, there's something. I mean, I totally agree with you with the God thing. Because there's something to being a spiritual being living a human existence. Right? Like we're supposed to make mistakes. We're supposed to try to figure things out. Like us, like through prayer and meditation and just.

[Kehlani]

And therapy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Therapy, yeah.

[Host 1]

Community.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Kehlani]

Being a community member is really important. Talking to people, having other people talk to you back, sharing experience, messing up together, being held accountable, being called in, growing, getting Applause from other humans, Getting love from other humans. If we're all just going to be alone, getting all those things from a robot, like, we're going to stunt ourselves as a world, as a species.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I agree.

[Kehlani]

Then what happens to love and what happens to art and what happens to music? I just had. I've been having this conversation for weeks. Like, you know, that paired with how the Internet's obsessed with destroying each other and calling and completely ruining people's lives and doing all these kind of things, we're entering a very individualistic, let's kill community for people kind of world. Like, we're isolating everyone from every side. Technology and each other. It's becoming this huge isolation, isolation party. And it's really sad.

[DJ Envy]

How does that make you as a mom now because you have a daughter? So how are you raising your child in this type of world that you just named? You know what I mean? Because these other kids, when they go to these colleges and schools, they're gonna be using ChatGPT.

[Kehlani]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

You know, these other kids are gonna be using things that necessarily you don't agree with. You know? So how do you raise that daughter in this crazy world?

[Kehlani]

With information. I think I give her all the information possible. I don't. I don't lie to my kid. I don't. You know, obviously you don't just outright tell her terrible things, but, like, you give her all the information so she knows what's out there. And I tell her why this. I don't agree with this. Why I think this is bad. Why? You know, I'm not gonna say no to this, but I'm gonna give you another option and explain why that option is probably the better option to do and let her decide. Ultimately, I can't protect her from what she learns at school and what her friends share and things like that, but at home, we're very, like, human focused, and I'm very communal. Like, she has a big extended family. She has a million aunties and uncles and cousins, and she lives a very I have community and people around me kind of life. She's not sitting in the corner on her iPad alone all day. That's just not her life.

[DJ Envy]

Does she see the. How does she feel about the evolved ver of Kehlani?

[IBM Advertiser]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

Because you said you've changed.

[Sophie Cunningham]

She's six.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know, between three and six and four and six. I'm like, man, Mommy's cooler now. You know?

[Kehlani]

I mean, I've been her mom the whole time. I've just been my Daughter's mom the whole time. How everyone else gets to see me is never gonna be how she sees me, because I'm just her mommy. I always have been, I always will be.

I don't fall apart in front of her. I don't put. I don't put her in any adult situation. She doesn't have a clue if anything is going on with me. I've just been her happy mom this whole time. And I take pride in that.

[Host 1]

I saw the interview that you guys did, you and your daughter.

[Kehlani]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

And she, first of all, she's adorable.

[Kehlani]

Thank you.

[Host 1]

But I know that there's always, like, a protection with, like, artists and stars to put their kids out there. And it was a cute, you know, non environment, non adult environment. But, like, what made you get to a point where you're like, okay, I'll let her start doing things like this because she's watching mommy perform.

[Kehlani]

She wants to.

[Host 1]

Stuff like that. Okay.

[Kehlani]

She wants to. She loves it. But then she gets there and they turn the camera on, and then she's silent because she's scared. And then the camera's off and she's like, that was great. But I think I will say this as actually a blanket statement for personal relationships in general, Whether it's your family, your friends, your loved ones, your girlfriend, your boyfriend, whatever. And being a celebrity is. We very unfortunately entered a very high surveillance society. Like, it's become so hot. Like, and I'm so passionate about this because we're also a. A gener. Very anti police. Right. I'm super anti police. But I'm watching us all kind of become police. Like, we're. We're filming the couple behind us having an argument, and next thing you know, they're very private. Argument has become a tick tock story time. Or, you know, I'm autumn. I'm taking. Somebody's taking screenshots of the first time they're even getting my number. And they're posting it on their story like, y' all got Kehlani's number. Like, it's all of these. I walk into a restaurant with my partner or my daughter, and if I'm choosing to hide one of them, I gotta worry about. About this.

[DJ Envy]

Now it's the camera.

[Kehlani]

For the camera.

[DJ Envy]

Glasses is this.

[Kehlani]

It's. It's insane. So you kind of come to this point, right? As a person in front of a microscope, do I want to be anxious all the time 247 and. And experience. I experience fame paranoia where, like, if I'm hiding something or. Or if I'm keeping something to myself. It gets angled as I'm hiding something or lying to the public. And so I'm doing regular things at the grocery store, leaving a date with my partner, things like that. And have to be shell shocked because I'm worried that people are gonna be surveilling me to have some kind of gotcha moment or some kind of, I know more about them than you do, or look what I discovered so I can get a moment off of this. And whole time, it's just my real life. So I think you can protect as much as you wanna protect, and still that's not a guarantee that you're protected.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Has fame made you more cautious about who gets access to the real Kehlani?

[Kehlani]

Yes. I mean, in my. From what I can control, you know, from, you know, who, who hangs out of my inner circle or who comes to my house, you know, things like that. But we're also, again, because of this highly, you know, surveilled, kind of, like, audience state that we're in is like, you're also in a constant state of having to prove yourself. Like, am I a good person? Am I a decent person? Do I make good decisions? Do I mess up sometime times? Have I made a bad decision? Have I been contradicting? Have I been a hypocrite? And those are all very human things. But I think we've been taught now all of a sudden that we have to constantly show ourselves deeply in order for people to not create other narratives. Like, now controlling your narrative looks like almost baring your soul just so people can believe that you're a decent person. So you really don't get room. The more mysterious you are, the more people. I've seen the craziest things about myself.

[DJ Envy]

What's the craziest thing you've seen?

[Kehlani]

Oh, I, I, I've seen. I've come into people's job and, like, smacked him. Like, I, like, I, I can see that. Can you see it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can see you smacking shit.

[Kehlani]

No. Yeah. I've never walked into nobody job and smacked him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I can see you doing.

[Kehlani]

I've, I've just seen things. I've seen. I've tried to date so and so's ex girlfriend's little sister's brother, cousin, and did whatever with them at some random place in a place I've never been. Like, just. And people will believe it because it's typed on an app or said by someone on Tick Tock. And if I respond, then I'm too reactive. I need to Be Beyonce and say FD Internet. Why am I explaining myself? How dare I explain myself? But the things you see, it's not normal. It's not normal. But here we are, you know, this is what we've. This is what we've become. So you just ride the wave, I guess.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You said you anti police. Yeah, I'm anti police misconduct. I'm anti police brutality. I'm anti police killing, you know, unarmed black and brown people. But I'm not anti police. If somebody break into my house, I'm calling 911 immediately.

[DJ Envy]

He is.

[Kehlani]

But who's to guarantee that the police aren't going to come and kill you?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That is true, but what other option do we got?

[Kehlani]

Well, I think people who are anti police are in favor of at some point, some other kind of system coming along that isn't built on the values of the police. That is built on communal values and actual safety values. That's assuming that we can imagine up and conjure up a better world to facilitate something like that. And also on a much larger scale, a lot of crime is happening because people's needs aren't met. If someone robs your house, it's probably because they were broken. They needed it. Imagine if those people had enough to survive and enough to thrive. They probably wouldn't need to rob your house.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I still gotta shoot em.

[Kehlani]

You know, what if that's, you know, live your life, protect your family. I do believe in people protecting themselves. I'm not anti. Protect yourself. I'm anti. There should not be an extension of the government that is able to do things like this with no consequence. They don't answer to anyone. They are gang members. That is a gang. And it goes even further with them being trained and tied into military militaries of other places. I'm trying to talk as bluntly as possible as I can, but it's a. It's just a much larger, again, much more sinister thing where things are tied up into these larger pyramids and police are very close to the top.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who does security at your shows? Because I can see this right now, police refused to do security at Kehlani shows.

[Kehlani]

I would actually love that. We actually tried. There was an initiative that no Name was, I think if I'm wrong, was trying to start where a bunch of us were trying to sign on to remove police presence from our show, but only like four or five of us were down. So then we thought, like, if there's only four or five of us, actually these venues are just going to stop booking us Correct. It's easier to just say no to five of us than it is to, you know, adhere to this for just five of us. It's just, just. Just don't even book these five people. We get a million other shows a month at this same venue, so I think that's the preferred thing. I don't want police at my shows. I don't know if there really are police at my shows. I don't think so. Maybe if I do like a summer jam or like a, you know, a bigger thing where there's way more artists, but when it's just me, I have security. I got a Tongan standing outside right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I see him.

[Kehlani]

You know, I see him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Big Samoan. Yeah. You gonna catch hell with that one.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, you are.

[Kehlani]

He's got me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, you are.

[Host 1]

I wanted to go back to the microscope. You being on the microscope conversation that we were having.

[Kehlani]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

One of the things that hit the microscope was the back and forth with your daughter's dad.

[Kehlani]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Where are you guys now? I know you guys were supposed to do, like, mediation and like, you kind of figure things out internally.

[Kehlani]

Like, I have full custody. Got you full custody.

[Host 1]

Yeah. Okay. And then is. Is there contact with him?

[IBM Advertiser]

No.

[Host 1]

Okay.

[Kehlani]

No.

[Host 1]

Yeah. Well, that answers that. I mean. Cause that was a situation that I think for the. One of the few times that we kind of saw, you're in a mom light, but you also are then having to come and defend yourself so much because of things that were claimed.

[Kehlani]

Yeah, I sat silent for most of it.

[Host 1]

You were silent for a while until there was like. Like the cl. And he did backtrack a lot of the claims.

[Kehlani]

He backtracked pretty much all of it.

[Host 1]

Oh, yeah. All of that.

[Lon LaRose]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Yeah. While that's happening and you're sitting silent. Right. And you still have your baby here.

[DJ Envy]

How difficult was that?

[Host 1]

Yeah, like, you're sitting silent. You still have your baby.

[Eva Longoria]

Yeah.

[Kehlani]

I mean, it's very real. You're in a. You're in a court related situation. So at the end of the day, you're. You're listening to your lawyer. You're listening to. Ultimately, I was trying to protect my child. No mother wants to wake up and I can bear anything attached to my name. It might hurt. I might throw a little bit of a fit about it, But I'm an adult. I can bear that. When you see your child's name attached to these things, your child's photo next to certain words and certain verbiage and certain things, that's a bit of a Heartbreaker. And so I had to really, honestly, I probably learned the most about God through that situation because I was on my own.

[DJ Envy]

God, don't let me wild the fuck.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Up and slap him.

[Kehlani]

Beyond that, God protect me and God protect my child. Like really, God shield my child. God make it so that when she goes to school, there's no other parents that are going to bring this up. There is no children that are going to be told something scary and then have to act weird towards her. God made this not, not follow her when she's older. Because I can bear it and I can deal with it because I've been through a lot. This actually was only treacherous because it was so public. I have been through many things that were way worse than this.

And ultimately it was just. It was just, think about your kid. Think about your kid. Think about your kid. That is it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And how come when people be on their healing journey and, you know, we start meditating and, you know, going to therapy and charging our crystals under the supermoon. Why we got to be in a culture? Why all of a sudden they say we in a cult?

[Kehlani]

It's a. It's a tough situation. Ultimately the claims were false. It wasn't true. He backtracked a lot. A lot was discovered. A lot came out in certain documents of whatever the court case xyz. And a lot of it just got refuted. And people who are very obsessed with disliking me. And we're waiting for a gotcha moment again and a moment to prove she's so fucking weird will hold on to that forever. But that's not really my ministry to change their mind. Yeah, you know, those are very miserable. We have a lot of. A lot of misery on this earth, like. And as for, you know, hopefully they. They find some healing and they find something that makes them happy. Because ultimately doing that is not going to make anyone any happier. But maybe in the moment.

[Host 1]

Do you probably not now like the conversation you had with your daughter about all of this at some point. Have you. You haven't had that yet or have you?

[Kehlani]

I mean, I had to explain to her why I was going to court and why what visitation is and what that means and why we're not in communication and all those kind of things. And she was very understanding and she was. She's moved through it and we've taken it day by day.

[Host 1]

Yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You switching gears because that's heavy.

[Sophie Cunningham]

It is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You said Brandi was on your Mount Rushmore.

[Kehlani]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who else?

[Kehlani]

Stevie Wonder is the head of the Mount Rushmore, whatever.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is this vocals or just artists in general?

[Kehlani]

I think artistry.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Host 1]

And this for everybody or you said every artist or every singer should have this. Mount Rushmore.

[Kehlani]

I think every singer should have different kinds of Mount Rushmores. Like I said, she should be on the vocal. Mount Rushmore, but also artistry, like, in general, but she should be on everyone's vocal. Mount Rushmore, 100%.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I want to know your vocal.

[Kehlani]

My vocal. Mount Rushmore. Okay. Brandy, I. Beyonce.

[DJ Envy]

Can't put them next to each other.

I could let that go.

[State Farm Advertiser]

I'm sorry.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[Kehlani]

Let them have a beautiful tour. They're having a beautiful tour. Please let them.

[Host 1]

I am. I'm sorry.

[Kehlani]

Please. Yeah. Beyonce. Whitney Houston, obviously.

[DJ Envy]

Of course.

[Kehlani]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's the one I wanted to make sure was on it.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, yeah.

[Kehlani]

Well, yeah. I mean, that's a lineage, right? There's no Brandy without Whitney Houston.

[Host 1]

I'm stop playing with you, Kehlani.

[Kehlani]

Yeah. What did you think? I didn't think that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just wanted to know sometimes, you.

[Kehlani]

Know, that's why you asked me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sometimes you throw.

[Kehlani]

No, no, no.

[Host 1]

I love me trying to, like, teach you without.

[DJ Envy]

Right?

[Kehlani]

You see how you trying to get a gotcha moment, bringing it back.

[Host 1]

It's like a OG pull up, but it can feel like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I didn't assume.

[Kehlani]

That's why I asked.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I'm like, okay, just as long as she can't talk.

[DJ Envy]

The other day, we had Christopher Williams up here, and I was like, she thought I was a comedian.

[Host 1]

No, because we had a comedian on the schedule, and we had a singer on the schedule, and I didn't know the names. I just knew comedian and singer.

[Kehlani]

Right, right, right.

[Host 1]

And then he asked me, and I said, is that the one that's the comedian? And then I said, oh, that is. And I said, oh, it's the R B singer.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He said, you know who Christopher Williams is? She goes, oh, yeah, the comedian.

[Kehlani]

No, I said, oh, you said it out your mind. Okay, so they got you.

[Host 1]

Is that the comedian? Then he said, no, see, she doesn't know. I said, oh, so that's the R B singer. Did that not happen?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who's your last one? Brandi? Beyonce? Whitney, You.

[Kehlani]

I'm going say Mariah got absolutely. Damn. What we're talking about, like, freaky level, like, channel talent of, like. Okay, well, when will anybody be able to ever do that again? No type people, you know? So I think that's. That's the. That's the point.

[DJ Envy]

Well, if you want to see.

[Kehlani]

But you know what else? Who else?

Oh, Kiki.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Kehlani]

Singers. But, you know, they all went to church. That's what it is. Really, so.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then you got your Patti LaBelle and your Aretha.

[Kehlani]

Exactly, exactly. We could go on forever, honestly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

But if you want to see Kaylani, she's going to be performing at our jingle ball in Miami and our jingle ball in Atlanta. All right. So get your tickets.

[Kehlani]

Yeah, I'm going to do out the Window.

[Host 1]

Okay.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, we going to get into that single right now. Let's get into the single right now. And we appreciate you for joining us.

[Kehlani]

Thank you. We always get real deep in here.

[DJ Envy]

One time, Kehlani didn't want to come up here. She's like, I ain't with the breakfast.

[Kehlani]

I was scared of you guys.

[DJ Envy]

She was scared as a mother. But we got through it.

[Kehlani]

We were having different conversations then.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I was little.

[Kehlani]

Look at us growth.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We've all evolved.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, absolutely. Let's get into the single right now. Here's out the window is Kehlani. I said it right?

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[DJ Envy]

All right.

[Kehlani]

Proud of you guys.

[DJ Envy]

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[State Farm Advertiser]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Lon LaRose]

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[Host 1]

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[Lon LaRose]

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[Host 1]

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