The Breakfast Club – Pastor Mike Todd Interview
iHeartPodcasts | November 4, 2025
Guests: Pastor Mike Todd
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God

Episode Overview

In this engaging interview, Pastor Mike Todd joins The Breakfast Club to discuss his "We Outside Tour," navigating faith and real life, balancing progression and perfection, responding to public controversies (including backlash over his sermon outfits), and connecting spiritually with the younger generation. The conversation dives deep into authenticity, the challenges of public ministry, the role of questioning in faith, and Mike Todd’s work in music and media—including a new film based on his bestselling relationship book.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Halloween, Faith & Navigating Culture

• Origins and Redemption (04:20–09:20)

  • Pastor Todd discusses Halloween’s origins: “My thing is, this is a season where the origins of it are very dark, demonic… There are specific things, though, that happen in our culture that I believe can be redeemed.”
  • Uses Halloween as an opportunity to connect with neighbors and bless others, rather than judge.
  • On music’s influence: “Music is way more powerful than Halloween. Oh, completely. It’s not even close.” (09:11, Mike Todd)

• Progression vs. Perfection (13:10)

  • On personal growth: “This is progression though, and not perfection. And I think that everybody has to do that.” (13:30, Mike Todd)
  • Emphasizes messy, public transitions: “Progression is messy… all transitions have tension.” (14:48, Mike Todd)

2. The Supernatural, Jesus, and Questioning Faith

• On Mediums & Spiritual Sources (20:30–24:20)

  • “The supernatural is very real. Absolutely. But the Bible is very clear too... My question is, where’s the source?” (21:00, Mike Todd)
  • Pushes listeners to seek direct connection with God rather than intermediaries: “Why would you go talk to your uncle when you could come talk to your dad?” (22:48, Mike Todd)

• Role of Jesus and the Trinity (25:30–29:15)

  • Explains the Christian belief that access to God comes through Jesus: “The Bible says that Jesus is the only way, the truth and the life. The only way you can come to the Father is through the Son…” (26:05, Mike Todd)
  • Touches on Jesus’ humanity and sacrifice as an expression of love and redemption.

• The Cost of Grace & True Repentance (33:45–38:05)

  • Tackles the misconception that grace enables unchecked sin: “If you understood the cost, you wouldn’t treat it so cheap.” (34:14, Mike Todd)
  • Repentance means actual change, not just words: “Repent is not a church word. It just means to turn.” (38:03, Mike Todd)
  • Charlamagne: “The best form of repentance is changed behavior.” (36:54)

3. Doubts, Questions, & Spiritual Growth in the Younger Generation

• On NLE Choppa’s Faith Questions (39:00–47:00)

  • Encourages openness: “What he needs is community… to wrestle with those things…not in front of a camera.” (41:14, Mike Todd)
  • “I want everybody to embrace the process of becoming—this notion that you can be 42 years old and know everything? That’s ridiculous.” (43:38, Mike Todd)

• Importance of Experience Beyond Understanding (48:00)

  • “Most people will stay close enough to God to get an understanding, but not close enough to have an experience.” (48:42, Mike Todd)
  • Draws analogy to using Wi-Fi without technical knowledge: belief can be rooted in evidence and personal encounters, not just intellectual comprehension.

4. The "We Outside Tour" & Collaborations

• About the Tour (57:35–1:01:19)
  • “If you want to see what heaven’s gonna look like before you get there, you gotta pull up to the We Outside tour.” (58:51, Mike Todd)
  • Collaborates with Ty Tribbett, Kierra Sheard, Jonathan McReynolds, and Transformation Worship.
  • Balances faith-based excitement: “A lot of times people actually don’t think you can have fun…in that type of context.” (1:02:30, Mike Todd)
  • Open and welcoming to all—addresses venues selling alcohol and inclusion.

5. Relevance vs. Reverence & Authenticity

• Balancing Culture & Conviction (1:05:20–1:13:00)

  • Emphasizes strong personal accountability: “I have people…who have the ‘sit down and shut up’ card in my life. And most people, when they get to certain levels, nobody can tell them nothing. But I have a wife.” (1:07:45, Mike Todd)
  • Encourages being authentic over performative: “God doesn’t bless who you pretend to be. He blesses who you really are.” (1:10:24, Mike Todd)

• Dealing with Public Criticism & Outfit Backlash (1:17:40–1:21:45)

  • On receiving backlash for his “feminine” sermon outfits: “The thing is, nobody said anything to me when my belly was literally folding over my belt. I was more holy then? But because I got fit and healthy…and can wear a large or medium now, it’s feminine.” (1:19:55, Mike Todd)
  • Responds to online hate with grace: “That’s the hard part…having to be like, God I thank you, Father. Heal his heart…give him the ability to have grace.” (1:20:45, Mike Todd)

6. Originality & Sharing within the Church

• On Sharing Sermons and Ideas (1:23:44–1:25:50)
  • “The gospel is meant to be shared…If that helped you, help them with it. This is the kingdom of God.” (1:24:45, Mike Todd)
  • Encourages fellow pastors and preachers to use his material for ministry: “Take my stuff. Preach it exactly how I preached it.” (1:25:35, Mike Todd)

7. Personal Growth & Vulnerability

• On Continuous Self-Improvement (1:27:14–1:30:25)
  • Currently focused on improving communication, especially with family: “I know how to communicate really well to masses of people, but…my conversations with my wife…could have more compassion and empathy.” (1:28:05, Mike Todd)

8. Media Projects: From Books to Film

• Upcoming Projects (1:32:20–1:35:10)
  • Announces “Relationship Goals: The Movie” based on his bestseller, starring Kelly Rowland and Method Man, out February 4th.
  • New Transformation Worship album, “Faith in the Fire.”
  • “It’s progression, not perfect.” (1:34:55, Mike Todd)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Progression vs. Perfection:
  “Progression is messy…all transitions have tension. What I want is for people to keep trying.” (14:48)
• On Being Real:
  “God doesn’t bless who you pretend to be. He blesses who you really are.” (1:10:24)
• On Repentance:
  “Repent is not a church word. It just means to turn.” (38:03)
• On Dealing with Critics:
  “The hard part is seeing Christman666 say something about me and…having to be like: God, I thank you. Heal his heart.” (1:20:45)
• On Sharing and Influence:
  “If you hear Pastor Mike preach something…and it could help your Bible study…you can use that. Help people get to Jesus.” (1:25:47)
• On Growth:
  “A lot of people are looking for a season where it doesn’t feel like growth. Growth actually is hard.” (1:28:20)

Important Timestamps

• Halloween, Music, and Spiritual Influence: 04:20–14:00
• Personal Growth & Progression vs. Perfection: 13:10–15:00
• Mediums, Supernatural, and Faith: 20:30–24:20
• Jesus, The Cross, and Repentance: 25:30–38:25
• Faith, Doubt & Next Generation (NLE Choppa): 39:00–49:30
• Personal Experience and Understanding God: 48:00–51:30
• We Outside Tour: 57:35–1:04:00
• Public Perception and Authenticity: 1:05:20–1:13:00
• Outfit Backlash and Handling Criticism: 1:17:40–1:21:45
• Originality in Church & Sharing Sermons: 1:23:44–1:25:50
• Areas God Is Stretching Pastor Todd: 1:27:14–1:30:25
• Upcoming Movie & Music Projects: 1:32:20–1:35:10

Episode Tone & Takeaways

This episode is forthright, humorous, and deeply honest—Mike Todd shares personal struggles, faith challenges, and insights while maintaining an uplifting and encouraging tone. The conversation is relatable for a wide audience, whether spiritually engaged or just curious. Listeners will feel invited to question, grow, and embrace authentic “progression, not perfection.”

For more:

• Mike Todd’s books and music available on major platforms
• “We Outside Tour” details via Transformation Church
• Upcoming Amazon film “Relationship Goals” (Feb 4, 2026)