INTERVIEW: T.I. On Comedic Therapy, Mt. Rushmore Of Southern Hip Hop, Community, New Comedy Special + More

Summary

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The Breakfast Club: T.I. On Comedic Therapy, Mt. Rushmore of Southern Hip-Hop, Community Work, Comedy Special & More

Podcast: The Breakfast Club (iHeartPodcasts)
Date: December 15, 2025
Guests: T.I.
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God, Angela Yee

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Episode Overview

This episode features a deep, energetic, and candid conversation with Southern hip-hop legend T.I. The rapper, actor, entrepreneur, and now stand-up comedian opens up about his journey into comedy, the impact of criticism, family, community involvement, hip-hop influence, and the upcoming projects including his comedy special "Cheaper Than Therapy". The tone is humorous yet insightful, blending T.I.’s classic confidence with real talk on success, legacy, and personal growth.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Entering and Embracing Comedy

[09:56]

• T.I. discusses his transition into comedy and the launch of his stand-up special “Cheaper Than Therapy” (out Dec 24, 2025, via tipaintfunny.com).
• He jokes about providing a space for comedy haters to congregate on his website.
• Comedy initially started as “therapy” for T.I., acting as a coping mechanism for difficult times and public scrutiny.

Notable Quotes:

“Cheaper than Therapy, everybody, man, you can get that tipaintfunny.com... I created a community for you all, a community where the haters can congregate and you can all get together and talk about how funny I'm not.” – T.I. [09:37]

• Comedy gave him perspective and kept him from “trolling on the internet.”
• He credits the haters for fueling his drive, comparing criticism in comedy to his “King of the South” era in rap.

“If people weren’t telling me how much they didn’t want me to do it, I’m real hard headed… It put me in the mind of the King of the South moment… It grew on me and I felt the need to defend my right.” – T.I. [13:47]

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2. Criticism, Internet Culture, and Respect for Legends

[05:34] – [08:12]

• T.I. talks about a conversation with his partner Nav, who dismissed KRS-ONE and Rakim’s importance, highlighting generational divides.
• He laments how the internet encourages reckless commentary, no longer buffered by real-life consequences.

“People stop getting hit in the face. That’s what I’m saying—‘cause you can’t hit them.” – T.I. [07:02]

• T.I. and Charlamagne riff on the idea of bringing back accountability for disrespect—just not violence (“normalize getting hit in the face again...not shooting!”).

“If you get hit in the face and you still say it…you hit hard, but still.” – T.I. [08:12]

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3. Comedy’s Humbling and Challenging Moments

[25:27] – [35:54]

• T.I. details bombing on stage at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn—his first major “booed off” experience as a stand-up—designed more to haze him than outright reject him, he suggests.
• DJ Envy shares his part in trying to save the set by playing T.I. songs, highlighting audience expectations versus performance reality.
• Rather than shrink from criticism, T.I. doubled down on performing, earning a standing ovation with the same set in Atlanta the next day.

“A show where things happen that you didn’t expect...it sharpens you and brings something else out of you.” – T.I. [32:12] “The very next day, I got back on stage and got a standing ovation. The SAME jokes I got booed for up here, I got a standing ovation for on that show.” – T.I. [34:05]

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4. Mount Rushmore of Southern Hip-Hop & Legacy

[14:38] – [18:48]

• Charlamagne discusses the debated "Mount Rushmore of the South," noting T.I.’s essential role.
• T.I. expresses humility and gratitude, crediting predecessors and peers, highlighting Scarface, Outkast, and the importance of recognizing groups (e.g., Goody Mob, Wu-Tang) as single entities.
• He rebuffs ideas that later stars (Gucci, Jeezy) wouldn’t exist without him but acknowledges he helped open doors.

“I can’t take credit for the whole thing. I’m just happy that I was able to plant a seed for something that grew to be what it is today.” – T.I. [18:41]

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5. Family, Fatherhood, and Fame

[47:50] – [54:37]

• T.I. talks about the impact of reality TV (“Family Hustle”) on his family, describing it as the “most elaborate photo album a father could have.”
• He reflects on fame—how TV “fame” can surpass music in public impact, noting the loyalty and connection audiences have with regular TV characters.

“TV fame, bro, is different...when they sitting in their house watching you on a consistent basis...that’s a different kind of fame.” – T.I. [37:59]

• Discusses young family members' growth (especially King and Demani), generational struggles, and the challenges of judgment in the social media era.

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6. Community Work and Social Responsibility

[65:17] – [69:54]

• T.I. outlines his long-standing commitment to affordable housing in Atlanta, highlighting recent achievement: ENTRADA, 143-unit complex with units set aside for homeless youth and retail designed to address food deserts.
• Makes a public call for partners to bring much-needed grocery/pharmacy options to underserved areas.

“Let’s put passion over profit...it will be some phenomenal PR. People, just like they commended me, would be commending you.” – T.I. [68:00]

• Recalls building and renovating homes even before gentrification was on the public radar.

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7. Music, Mixtapes, and Artistic Confidence

[46:10] – [77:14]

• T.I. affirms his relevance, work ethic, and confidence as an artist (“can’t nobody fuck with me...live performance, hit for hit, verse for verse, bring them on.”)
• New music teased:
  • DJ Drama x PSC “Gangsta Grillz” project on New Year’s Eve.
  • “Let ‘Em Know” with Pharrell (first single together, out Jan 23, 2026).
  • “Kill the King” album coming soon.
• Commentary on artistic competitiveness and respect for peers, especially regarding hypothetical versus battles (Wayne, Jay-Z, Nas).

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8. Relationships, Loyalty, and Giving Back

[61:38] – [64:18]

• T.I. narrates reaching out to Michael Vick the day Vick got out of prison—offering significant financial help while T.I. himself was about to turn himself in.
• He shares how aiding others helps him cope with his own struggles and the importance of loyalty within his circle.

“A lot of times when I’m going through stuff, I take my mind off what I’m going through by trying to help somebody else.” – T.I. [63:25]

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9. Control, Content Ownership & Future Projects

[53:21–54:37 & 70:10–72:14]

• T.I. emphasizes the importance of controlling his creative and digital output (comedy, podcasts, family content).
• Notes the successful return of his podcast "Expeditiously," focusing on raw, candid conversations with cultural and political leaders.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (With Timestamps)

• On Comedy & Criticism:

  "I gotta thank the haters...I would not have taken it so seriously if people weren’t telling me how much they didn’t want me to do it." – T.I. [13:47]

• On Internet Culture:

  "People stop getting hit in the face because you can’t hit them. I think we should normalize getting hit in the face again." – T.I. [07:59]

• About His Comedy Journey:

  "A show where things happen that you didn’t expect to happen, it sharpens you and brings something else out of you." – T.I. [32:12]

• On Family and TV Fame:

  "That TV show fame, when they...do that week after week after month after month, that’s a different kind of fame." – T.I. [37:59]

• About Helping Michael Vick:

  "When I’m going through stuff, I take my mind off of what I’m going through by trying to help somebody else." – T.I. [63:25]

• Regarding Hip-Hop Impact:

  "I can’t take credit for the whole thing...I’m just happy that I was able to plant a seed for something that grew to be what it is today." – T.I. [18:41]

• On Legacy and Pride:

  "I have the most elaborate photo album as a father that anyone could have." – T.I. [48:08]

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Important Timestamps by Topic

• Comedy & Special Announcement: [08:56] – [09:48]
• Standing Up To Critics / Comedy Bomb Story: [25:27] – [35:54]
• Mt. Rushmore of Southern Hip-Hop / Outkast, Scarface: [14:37] – [18:48]
• Family Dynamics & Impact of Reality TV: [47:50] – [54:37]
• Community Initiatives / ENTRADA Housing: [65:17] – [69:54]
• Discussion of Hip-Hop Legacy vs. Current Artists: [44:07] – [47:02]
• Music Projects & DJ Drama, Pharrell Collaborations: [72:03] – [74:50]
• Podcast Expeditiously Relaunch: [70:14] – [72:14]
• Famous “King of the South” Claim & Reflection [13:47], [44:52]
• Relationship with Michael Vick / Loyalty: [61:38] – [64:18]

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Conclusion

The conversation with T.I. is rich in anecdotes, humor, and honest reflection, blending tales of personal and professional evolution with sharp commentary on culture, legacy, and realness. Whether defending his place in the rap canon, embracing the humbling path of comedy, or working for community uplift, T.I. stays true to his principles of authenticity and hustle.

Upcoming:

• Cheaper Than Therapy comedy special (Dec 24, 2025)
• PSC x DJ Drama “Gangsta Grillz” (New Year's Eve)
• Single with Pharrell “Let ‘Em Know” (Jan 23, 2026)
• "Kill the King" album
• More Expeditiously podcast episodes

Final Note:
T.I. maintains both humility and bravado, facing life’s changes with humor and determination:

“God has been good to me...But bottom line, can’t nobody fuck with me—line me up with whoever you got.” [46:05]

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Transcript

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[T.I.]

Program. Your Alarm to Power 105.1 on iHeartRadio.

[DJ Envy]

Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lola Rose is here. Nyla is here. We got a special guest in the building.

[Charlamagne tha God]

The legendary Tip.

[T.I.]

What's happening, Tip?

[DJ Envy]

What up?

[T.I.]

What's happening?

[DJ Envy]

Man, you just came in here and said you wouldn't be working if you had a dinner.

[T.I.]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. If I live, the pair can handle job. I can handle job. Ain't no way in the hell, man, this is. Quit your job with them, man. You walk outside like, man, hell no. God, no business.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You know what I'm telling me that if you would have grew up in New York, you wouldn't have been a D boy.

[T.I.]

I wouldn't. Yes. For a period of time. For a period of time. You know what I'm saying? I would have been a seasonal trapper, you know?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay.

[T.I.]

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. How you doing, brother?

[DJ Envy]

How's everything?

[T.I.]

I'm cooling, man. I'm cool. And I can't. If you notice, I came up here by myself this time.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yes, you did.

[T.I.]

I came by myself this time. Cause last time we had a bit of a. Oh, I remember, we had a bit of a kerfuffle, you know what I'm saying? I had came up here, Dolo.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That wasn't your fault, though. And you bought everybody, you know, he was a peacemaker.

[T.I.]

Those were my brothers, man. Two of the most loyal and the most masterful at their craft. So they're both very passionate about what they do. Both very stand up and respectable. And you know what I'm saying, sometimes, man, lines cross.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I don't think DRO is getting the credit he deserved for the year that he's had. Like, there's been a resurgence of Young DRO even on social media. People like, man, young DRO can rap.

[T.I.]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sober DRO is a different. It's a different monster. And he definitely, man, he had a resurgence and turned his life around and has a discipline about himself now that is much different than before, you know what I mean? But. And yeah, you right. He having a phenomenal year. He tore it down on that Metro boom project you did. You know, he and I also, you know, had a very a time on the TM88 project, so. You know what I'm saying? And we got the PSC project coming, man. We gonna put that at New Year's Eve. Oh, yeah, we're doing a gangster grill with Drama. Gonna drop on New Year's Eve.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay?

[T.I.]

We drop it with the ball. You hear me?

[DJ Envy]

Okay, now I do gotta ask, since y' all thought about rapping, what you gotta ask about one of your partners, Nav?

[T.I.]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Was talking.

[T.I.]

Yeah, yeah, about KRS1. I spoke to now.

[DJ Envy]

Rakim.

[T.I.]

I spoke to now. I spoke to now. I spoke to now. I told him he can't do. I said, man, you can't do that, bro. You can't do that. That's. That's. That's egregiously unfair. You know what I'm saying? Break it down.

[DJ Envy]

Why?

[T.I.]

And he. And he. And he said. He said, man, I don't care about that. You know what I'm saying? I said, man, nah, but you can't do that. And I just keep saying it. And, you know, we gonna have a. We're actually gonna do it expeditiously about it. Because I think he need to be, like, walked through, like, historically, why it matters so much, you know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne tha God]

His favorite rapper is Jay Z, though.

[T.I.]

Yeah, I mean, that's fine. I mean, that fine. But that still doesn't. It doesn't take away or justify the blatant disregard for, you know, the predecessors and especially, like, the God mc, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, even Kis, you know, people are like, man, do you understand? This is where it started. He like, man, I don't care where it started. I care about what I like.

[DJ Envy]

But that's fine. You know, he can have his own what he likes. That's cool. But he just gotta remember where they started. From where Jay Z got his, from where these people got.

[T.I.]

See, I think what we fail to realize is in the age of Internet, people are just not careful with what they say anymore. You know what I'm saying? People say what the hell ever comes to mind. And I think that's something that people of our generation just got to get used to. Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

21. Savage was talking about that on the Big bank interview, the Internet. And he actually brought you up. He said that during your era, y' all didn't have to really deal with the Internet. Trying to tell people who y' all were and just, like, saying crazy things. So it's a little different for people now.

[T.I.]

Well, see, it wasn't the Internet. We had, you know, Wendy Williams and Charlemagne, and, you know what I'm saying? Magazine telling us, you know what I'm saying? We had our set of challenges, you know, our share of, you know, our share of obstacles to Overcome. It just. It's just like the success of that. People seeing how successful you can become doing that. It just made everybody say, I'm doing that too. I'm gonna take it a step further. I say, I. I say this. I. You know what I mean? And they just. They forget about all those run. See, people stop getting hit in the face. You see what I'm saying? Like, people stop getting hit in the face because you can't hit them.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Where you gonna see them to hit them at, man?

[T.I.]

You catch people everywhere, man. You know what I'm saying? We all sharing this big ball of dirt together. You never know when you catch somebody, man. You like, oh, there. Go shout it right there. Yeah. I mean, you know, I think that. And I think that's okay. I think we should normalize getting hit in the face again.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yes.

[T.I.]

Because I feel not shooting. You know what I mean? Don't shoot them. No killing them, bow.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Because that's what I respect your mouth. I respect it more when a person says whatever they want to say to the person. And if the person gets hit in the face, they still stand on what that, right?

[T.I.]

Cause you get hit in the face and you still say it. I don't care. I don't care. You hit hard, but still.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Hey, how do you. You here for comedy, right?

[T.I.]

No, no, no, no. I'm actually here, man. Oddly enough. I'm here because my daughter said she wanted to eat in New York restaurants. Oh, wow. So. So here we are. I thought y' all better.

[DJ Envy]

That's when you know you got money.

[T.I.]

Come on, man. I ain't playing, man. I probably. I don't know where she want to go. I'm just here, dog. You know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm just came for the weekend to eat.

[T.I.]

Yeah, them lied.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It was like. I was like, t. I here for a comedy show.

[T.I.]

I got a special coming out. I got a special coming out, man, on Christmas Eve, man. It's called Cheaper than therapy. So while I'm up here, you know what I'm saying, I got to handle my business, too. But, yeah, so Cheaper than Therapy, everybody, man, you can get that tipaintfunny.com. you know, just log on to Tip ain't Funny dot com. And you know what I'm saying, for the nominal fee of 6.99, you'll be able to watch my comedy special while you at home rapping gifts, getting tired of your kids complaining about how my money you didn't have to spend, but you did. You know what I'm saying, you know, just entertain yourself, man. All of the comedians who hate to see me in comedy and who don't like, I created a community for you all. A community where the haters can congregate and you can. You can all get together and talk about how funny I'm not. You know what I'm saying? Can we drop a bomb?

[Charlamagne tha God]

What made you go that route?

[Angela Yee]

I try to go to the site.

[T.I.]

Try it again.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Tip ain't funny dot com.

[Angela Yee]

That's where I'm at.

[T.I.]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

Maybe it's blocking it because we in here.

[T.I.]

What you mean?

[Angela Yee]

Because sometimes our. Our firewall will block certain things.

[T.I.]

I have. I have a white.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It came up for me.

[DJ Envy]

See, I said I got a white man with me.

[T.I.]

What's wrong with the website?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yes, you're wrong. It's right there. Tip Harris, Cheaper than therapy coming December 24, 2025.

[T.I.]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's your broke ass computer tip8funny.com.

[Angela Yee]

What are you talking about in the special?

[T.I.]

What am I talking, man? A few different things, man. I'm definitely talking about, you know, marriage, you know, you know, my. My experiences with my wife. Definitely talking about being a father.

[DJ Envy]

Did you run that by your wife first?

[T.I.]

Did you say, dave, I'm gonna talk.

[DJ Envy]

About this, or did she hear it when she got there?

[T.I.]

Absol. Absolutely not. But, you know, why would I do. Why would I go and do that?

[DJ Envy]

I don't know if you want that smoke later on.

[T.I.]

You run things by your wife if.

[DJ Envy]

I'm gonna talk about it.

[T.I.]

Yeah, you do.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, you do.

[T.I.]

If it's not the nicest thing.

[DJ Envy]

I think so.

[T.I.]

You. What you mean not the nicest?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Because he got in trouble back in the day for not running something.

[T.I.]

He got hit in his face. Hey, you see how important getting hit in the face is?

[Charlamagne tha God]

He would have rather got hit the way I got hit the way he got hit. Cause if he got hit the way it was like, I'm just.

[T.I.]

She hit you in the. She hit you in the wallet?

[DJ Envy]

No, no.

[T.I.]

She hit. She hit you in the head.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Talked about it in your book. You might as well talk about it.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, yeah, no, no. You know, I stepped outside the marriage.

[T.I.]

Huh?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, that's what I'm going. That's what I'm saying.

[Angela Yee]

And then you got on air, called her on.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, you want to hear the whole story?

[T.I.]

So, yeah, let's hear the whole me.

[DJ Envy]

And my wife is going through. I stepped in.

[T.I.]

Yeah, yeah. And I was hurt.

[DJ Envy]

And your brother over there, Charlamagne, was like, you hurt? You should call up live on the radio and apologize. And I was at my lowest moment, right. And I thought my brother was picking me up, so I did it.

[T.I.]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I didn't really know what was going on.

[T.I.]

Nah, you didn't understand. Now, hey, look, you don't understand. Charlamagne thinking ratings.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[T.I.]

That man was thinking business was like, yeah, you know what? You should call up right now. Call up right now.

[DJ Envy]

Say, I didn't have nothing to say, you know, but sorry. So I'm trying to just say words. Charlamagne behind me like, go, go. You got this, bro.

[T.I.]

Yeah, yeah. That's just like a friend. That's just like a friend. Just like a friend. But your friends mean you no good, man. You are there for your friend entertainment, you know what I'm saying? They give you advice and you know, if it go well, okay. But I want to be entertained by the outcome.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I didn't really know what was going on to be. I didn't know the extent to what was going on.

[Angela Yee]

You a lie.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I really didn't.

[Angela Yee]

I was lying with envy and his feelings and something going on.

[T.I.]

It'd be all right. He turned red.

[Angela Yee]

He turned red. He is literally like he will cry at a drop of a dime. Is very in touch with his emotions. It was an iconic moment.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's what I was saying about you. You've never given light skin. You light skin with dark skin tendencies.

[T.I.]

Yeah, man. You know what I'm saying? I'm. I'm six four and dark skinned on the inside. You know what I'm saying? On the inside. Yeah, but. Nah, but cheaper than therapy is the special. Tipaintfunny.com man comes out man December 24th. But you can pre order right now. I think I got like three pre orders so far. Yes, I get to count. I got. I have the back. The dashboard. So I got about three unsold by three so far.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What made you want to go that route? Because I'm sure you could have sold it to a screamer or somebody if you wanted to.

[T.I.]

I ain't got time to wait on people, man. I ain't got time to wait on people. I want to do what I want to do when I want to do it. I don't like rules and restrictions, regulations, you know what I mean? All that bureaucracy, policy and procedure and all that match your hill, man. You know what I mean? If you want to see it, there you go.

[Charlamagne tha God]

At what point did you realize comedy wasn't just a side quest for you, but something you wanted to take seriously?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, we gotta say we gotta drop a bomb for him. Because at one time they didn't think you were gonna go this far with comedy. They thought it was gonna be like a little hobby that you did for a couple of months and then get out of it.

[T.I.]

But yeah, I gotta thank the haters for that because I honestly would not have taken it so seriously, you know what I'm saying? The people weren't telling me how much they didn't want me to do it, you know what I'm saying? I'm real hard headed, stuck in my ways like that, you know what I'm saying? It's kinda like it kind of, it put me in the mind of the King of the south moment, you know what I mean? You know, when I came out, I was saying King of the south and you know, it was just something I said in the rhyme, you know what I'm saying? I was really just popping it and people are up and on. You can't. The hell I can't. And then it just became something that. It grew on me and I felt the need to defend my right to portray it and also to justify my reason for saying it. And that's the same way I felt with comedy.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That was another conversation that came up recently.

[T.I.]

What's that?

[Charlamagne tha God]

On Manny and Juvenile's podcast with D.C. i think it was D.C. chico. I don't know if Carlos was there, but it was the Mount Rushmore of the South.

[T.I.]

Uh huh. What about it?

[Charlamagne tha God]

I don't think you can have it without you being on there.

[T.I.]

Well, I appreciate that, man, I really do, man. You see, prison has taught me some things, Charlie, man, you know what I'm saying? It just taught me that. It just sold me many more important things than just stuff about other people's opinion. And I'm happy to just even be here, be alive, be free, let alone be successful and still relevant and still having your name mentioned along amongst the greats, bruh. But that, that, that just ain't important to me.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Would you ever, would you put it together if somebody say, yo, T.I. who's your Mount Rushmore down south rappers, man, do that?

[T.I.]

I don't. Nah, I mean, man, I probably would, but like, for public consumption, all I'm doing is creating controversy. If I wanted to do it just to create some ratings, I could say something, I'd probably say somebody that wouldn't nobody want to hear. So then I create more engagement and.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You know, yeah, Scarface and T.I. gotta be on there.

[T.I.]

For me though, yeah, Scarface is all around you know, top five to me. You know what I'm saying?

[DJ Envy]

And outkast.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[T.I.]

Yeah. 3,000 as well.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's where it get difficult when you start talking about the groups, because they. They definitely.

[T.I.]

I think Outcast. I think outkast should occupy one spot.

[DJ Envy]

I think so too.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay.

[T.I.]

You know what I'm saying? I think Outcast should. I feel the same about Goody Mob. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I feel like they. And. And Wu Tang, you know what I'm saying? And Mob Deep. You know what I mean? I feel like the groups, the iconic groups, they should occupy one spot. You dig what I'm saying? But I just. I think that it's so many dope individuals that came at. In the era that, you know, that we grew up in, and so many dope individuals is coming out now. So do you mix the two?

[Angela Yee]

And it's like, how you talk about it too? Like how you talk about it too. Cause, like, Gucci, Jeezy, people will argue. Like, do you put both of those on?

[Charlamagne tha God]

You don't get them without tip, though.

[Angela Yee]

But that's what I'm saying. It's like different conversations of, like, who goes on?

[T.I.]

You can't say you don't get them without.

[Angela Yee]

It depends on who.

[Charlamagne tha God]

When you have the Mount Rushmore, to me, it's the person who laid the foundation for whatever it is you do. So when you talk about trap music. Yes.

[Angela Yee]

You put Gucci and Jeezy on a Mount Rushmore.

[T.I.]

I didn't say that. See how. You see how she did? You see what she did? That would. That investigator kind of. Oh, so you say you was out there. You say you was out there at the corner. You said around what time?

[DJ Envy]

You say.

[T.I.]

You say who? You say. You say Charlemagne was with you. What? You say you had a bag and what.

[Rob Gronkowski]

What.

[T.I.]

What was in the bag? Nah, for real, though. But n. I ain't say that. What I said was. He said that you don't get Gucci and Jeezy without tip. I think you'd have still got them. I don't know if it would have been as kind of consolidated, and you know what I'm saying? And if it would have been received the same way you feel what I'm saying? But you still get them, and they still could. They had their own story. They story didn't come from me. They story came from them. I think the way the rest of the world outside of our city received their story became a little more acceptable because it had already been a door that Was open.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You did a big dog dope boys in the trap.

[T.I.]

Come on, man. I appreciate it, I appreciate it. See, I try to keep away from being self gratuitous, you know what I'm saying? I try to, you know what I'm saying? I mean, because as big as trap music here right now, you know what I'm saying? I didn't do that by myself, you know what I'm saying? It's songs that I probably wouldn't have never made. You did. And it's other people that have stories and have tastes in their beat selection, in their cadences, you know, in their collaborations with other artists that has pushed trap music. That's taking it from where I. Where I brought it to and expanded it and, you know, and diversified it. And so it has evolved to a place right now where I couldn't have imagined it being. So I can't take credit for the whole thing. I'm just happy that I was able to plant a seed for something that grew to be what it is today.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You laid the foundation when it comes to comedy, right? A lot of people chase it for validation. What were you chasing when you first stepped on stage?

[T.I.]

Therapy. Yeah, therapy, man. You know what I'm saying? I was going through. I was going through some. I was going through a. I don't want, not just a difficult time, but a time that I wasn't used to, you know what I'm saying? I would be in like. I don't have things said about me that I never imagined having said in public about me before. And people were like really like serious about it, you know what I'm saying? And that was something I, you know, that weighed on me, you know what I'm saying, for a while, you know.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And you get no apology. Nobody ever says, you know what?

[T.I.]

I don't want them, I don't want them, I don't want them. I mean, just keep that same energy, keep on pushing, you know what I mean? It cool, you know, that's a great way to exit my life. I love that, you know what I mean? I need to make room for the new. What was the most difficult part about it? Right?

[DJ Envy]

Was it the most difficult part not seeing those individuals, hearing friends and family talk about it, or your kids?

[T.I.]

What was the most difficult. I think the more difficult part about it was, you know, I've experienced tragedy, I guess, for the most part on my own, you know what I'm saying? Like where I had to go through it by myself. And when you're going through something by yourself. You know, of course it's difficult, the. The lonely part of being by yourself, but it's also easier because you only have to worry about what you do, how you feel and what you think and what. You know what I'm saying? So experiencing it as a family was different for me. You feel me? Cause that's the kind of thing that I always felt like, you know, I bear the brunt of all that for them. You feel me? So, you know what I'm saying? That was the difficult part. But I think outside of that, bruh, it was just, man, like, you know, I poured a lot of myself, my time, effort, energy, attention into presenting myself as a man of respect, you know what I'm saying? As a provider, protector, you know what I'm saying? As someone who can be held in high regard in the community as a certain type of person.

[Angela Yee]

And.

[T.I.]

And so for that to be like, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, fuck all that. Nah, nah, did what we say, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, oh, man, for real, yo, that's wild. So, you know, and then I had to remind myself that, you know, it's more important things out there than other people's opinions, you know, my truth would never step down. So their fantasy can live.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Absolutely.

[T.I.]

You know what I mean? So. But comedy helped me, you know what I'm saying? Take it a lot less serious. Got you and kept me from trolling on the Internet.

[Charlamagne tha God]

How humbling was it to walk into comedy as a beginner? You probably ain't felt like that since you put out your demo tape or something.

[T.I.]

Well, to be honest with you, I'm very arrogant. I never felt humbled by any means, you know what I'm saying? Because every day, if they laugh, if they don't laugh, I have a good day, have a bad day. I still walk out, I still get in my car, go home, and I wake up till. You know what I'm saying? So I always had. And that confidence, see, that is something that a lot of comedians don't have, you know what I'm saying? And I tell them it's an even exchange. You know, you go out there and, you know what I'm saying, You have no problem being funny. You know, automatically how to be funny. Your issue is making them care about your story. Okay, well, me, I go out there, they automatically care about my story. I just have to figure out how to be funny. So we both have challenges, you know what I'm saying? Don't look at me, because my challenges are different from yours. Just do the best of what you do, let me do the best what I do and mind your motherfucking business. You feel what I'm saying? I feel like. You know what I'm saying? We kick it like that, nobody had no problem. Have they ever boxed you out? Cause earlier what that means, box me out?

[DJ Envy]

I'm explaining. You said comedians hated on you. Have they ever boxed you out where they.

[T.I.]

Well, no. What else hated on you in a.

[DJ Envy]

Way that you couldn't perform or box you out?

[T.I.]

They didn't hate on me. See, that's what I'm saying. Very little of what other people do have anything to do with you. They didn't hate on me. They just haters. You feel what I'm saying? I was just the topic of their hate at the time. You know what I'm saying? I'm sure they hated on somebody else before and after. You feel me? They're just some haters. And that's cool because we need those. Cause if it weren't for them, I wouldn't be putting out my special on December 24th. That's right.

[DJ Envy]

Pre order right now.

[T.I.]

Yeah, go ahead.

[DJ Envy]

Tip ain't funny.tip ain't funny.com. and it works, Lauren, by the way.

[Angela Yee]

It don't work for me, but I saw it when we have comedians.

[T.I.]

What kind of computer you got?

[Charlamagne tha God]

I want to know.

[T.I.]

Is this window? What is this? Is this a Mac? This ain't a Mac.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It's definitely not a Mac.

[T.I.]

This is not a Mac.

[Angela Yee]

Didn't I type it right?

[T.I.]

But who. But no, now I'm asking you, is this. There was no government issue computer.

[DJ Envy]

No.

[Angela Yee]

Why would I have a government issue computer?

[T.I.]

I'm just asking, man. I'm just asking cuz you. It won't work for, for you, it don't work for everybody else.

[Angela Yee]

I don't know, but I saw it though. I was just trying to look at it to be able to talk about.

[T.I.]

It and look at another computer.

[Angela Yee]

I got you.

[Charlamagne tha God]

She just wanted you to come close to her, man.

[T.I.]

Nah, man, come on, don't do that. Don't do the A N. See what I'm saying? Hey, get what they done messed that up. Ain't no ain'. Who sent you? Oh, you. Who they saying? Huh? Okay, all right, I see. Okay.

[DJ Envy]

It don't work.

[T.I.]

No, come here.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It don't work.

[DJ Envy]

Your question now what was your question?

[Angela Yee]

I was going to ask him about the boxing out by comedians. Because a lot of times when comedians come up here and they be saying like behind the scenes, other comedians will do things like tell venues not to book them or.

[T.I.]

Can't nobody tell nobody that by me. Like, for real. I don't think you know what I'm saying? Either you booked me or you. I. Actually, the opposite happened to me, okay? When I first started doing comedy, I started on January 12, 2022, and I was doing it very consistently, week in, week out. And so, you know, reps is what builds your comedic ability, you know, yo, yo, instincts and reflexes and whatnot. And it takes time to build it, right? So let me see. January 12th is when I started. And I was really just happy to go in and just be letting people, you know, happy to be happy to allow me to do. Do time on stage. I wouldn't even expect it to get paid. You know what I mean? I say by March. By March. Let's call it March 20th something. I got a call and an invitation to come do a show in Brooklyn. They said they were gonna pay me $30,000 for 15 minutes, you know. Now, mind you, I'm used to getting paid a lot more, but it's for a lot longer time on stage. 30,000 for 15 is pretty commensurate with the amount of time spent for what I do in my. In my day job. I'm like, oh, I'm off to a fantastic start. So I go. And they booked me. It was Rip, Rip, RIP Michaels. Yeah, right on, right on. Yeah, he set me up. He booked me to come to Brooklyn to the Barclays to do comedy on the show where you had Moneybagg, Yo Lil Kim, other rappers. So they say, yeah, here come TI And I come out there, and I'm sure they was respecting music. And here I am telling jokes, man, they booed the at me. You hear what I'm saying? You hear me? I was dj. Yeah, you sure were. You damn sure were. I forgot about that. So then we had to. We. We had to say, we, we, we. We saved the day because, you know, we, we. We started a record. And I was like, uh, TI Came.

[DJ Envy]

Up to I shoot and play one of my records.

[T.I.]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

And I played one, and he said.

[T.I.]

Stop that shit, Envy.

[DJ Envy]

I wish a nickel wouldn't. Hey, what up, y'?

[T.I.]

All? It's DJ Envy.

[DJ Envy]

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[T.I.]

I wish I would with you disrespectful, ungrateful bastards. I'm out of here. Nah, man, but you know what I'm saying? But that. So they did the opposite for me. They said, oh, okay. He think, he think. Okay, book him. Go ahead, go ahead, book him. Give him the 30, 000. It'll be worth it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that. But now. But, but, but real, real. I don't think. I don't know if he did that on purpose, but if he did, that was funny.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Here.

[T.I.]

Very well played.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What hurt more? Bombing on stage?

[T.I.]

No bomb. First of all, he got a little boo boo.

[DJ Envy]

That's what he said. He say he got bomb.

[T.I.]

Sh. Man, you, you a masterful at this. You know, man, that man is a real wizard.

[Angela Yee]

But if people boo you, isn't that bombing?

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's bombing.

[Angela Yee]

No comedians would call that bombing.

[T.I.]

Well, no, no, no, no, no. If they start throwing shit at you and you have to leave like, you know what I'm saying? It's a different levels. The bombing, it starts with the Boo.

[DJ Envy]

He caught it back in the.

[T.I.]

I think you get a little different.

[Angela Yee]

Ain't nobody about to throw nothing at you.

[T.I.]

No, but, but hear me out, hear me out. Well, I've actually had things thrown at me on stage. Yeah. Before.

[Angela Yee]

We not talking panty.

[T.I.]

Nah, I'm talking water bottles and stuff, man.

[DJ Envy]

She was performing, rapping.

[T.I.]

Yeah. We had to jump off those stops, you know what I mean? But in My early days. In my early days, don't leave that part.

[Angela Yee]

Comedy club where you can, like, just walk down and see the person.

[T.I.]

You don't understand how miserable in life people are. People don't care nothing about, you know? But anyway, that's not the point. The point is, that was actually my favorite show. It was my favorite show because it made me show up and on my toe, I had to think, because, you know, a show where everything goes great, you already know what you're gonna say. You already have. You know what I mean? You got your bit, so you go out there and. You know what I'm saying? You do your bit. But a show where things happen that you didn't expect to happen, it sharpens you and brings something else out of you that you didn't even know you were capable of.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It made you realize you still had a lot to learn, basically.

[T.I.]

That made me realize I was better than I was. You see what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay. Okay.

[T.I.]

It made me realize I was better than I was. But I put it like this. I became a better comedian after that show. That show made me better, and that's why it's my favorite show.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So when it comes to comedy, how do you decide which criticism?

[T.I.]

But those booze, those were premeditated boos. You see what I'm saying? See? Cause, you know.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You think it was all set up.

[T.I.]

Yeah, I think that was premeditated booze.

[Angela Yee]

They were trying to haze you?

[T.I.]

I think so. I think so. Something like that. You know what I mean? Something like that. Something like, welcome, welcome to comedy. Little. You know what I'm saying?

[DJ Envy]

Some shit like that. That was the first.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Is that what you telling yourself, or is that real?

[T.I.]

That's how I feel. What you felt envy?

[DJ Envy]

So that was the first song. So Rip does comedy and artist performing. That's his thing. He does comedy with artists performing.

[T.I.]

Tip was on it.

[DJ Envy]

So people assumed Tip was gonna be rapping, right? So the first song, what you know about that? Comes on as Tip walks out. Crowd goes crazy. Tip says, all right. Stops. He started to do comedy.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So they mad now.

[DJ Envy]

You know what? Comedian Dole, they're like, what? And then he starts telling jokes. So now it's like the chick caught it early. Walk back, play this. I play the record. They start getting hype again because now they're thinking about performing. Then he said, you nasty, ignorant motherfuckers. Y' all thought I was really gonna perform. You whatever, Bassett, they start laughing. He closed out his. His five minutes, walks out. He caught the crowd Back.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So it wasn't a bomb.

[T.I.]

It wasn't a.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay, okay.

[DJ Envy]

But that.

[Angela Yee]

That's what happened.

[T.I.]

But I. Respectful.

[Charlamagne tha God]

On the Internet, they just show the boo. They don't show the map.

[T.I.]

It's okay. No, but it's okay. And then another thing that I learned because. Because, like, you know, one thing about, you know, New York City, like, you know what I'm saying, people catch on fast. So when the one couple people start booing and it just start, like, crescendoing around from the back up to the front. And, you know, it was to the point I looked down, I see Tamika, she down there booing, too. I said, hey, man, what the hell is wrong with you, bro? You came with me. I got caught in the moment. Nah, but. But I think. And then another thing. So people said that. They said that. They said that. You know, usually when people get booed, a lot of people, they stop doing comedy because of that. They can't take that. You know what I mean? A lot of people. And then they said that. I knew you were serious. Cause the very next day, I got back on stage and got a standing ovation. Wow. The very next day, we was. We was in Atlanta. We was in Atlanta. I think it was a show with DC on Fly. I think Mike Else or something. But anyway, I got back on stage, did another five minute. The same. Five minute. The same jokes. I got booed for up here. I got a standing ovation for, you know what I'm saying, on that show. So I understood that, you know what I'm saying? That was just. It was a learning curve for me, and I accept it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So how do you decide which criticism is useful and which is just noise?

[T.I.]

What means something? What matters to me?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay.

[T.I.]

You know what I'm saying? It's like, if I don't mind, it don't matter.

[DJ Envy]

I wanted to ask, so next year is the 20th anniversary of ATL and.

[T.I.]

The 20th anniversary of King.

[DJ Envy]

Did you ever expect ATL to be as big for our culture as it is?

[T.I.]

I will honestly say I had no expectations. Really. I ain't had no expectation. I went into it with an open mind. It was a skill set that I wanted to develop, and it was something that I always wanted to do. And the opportunity, when it presented itself to me, it just made me feel like I was on my way, you know what I'm saying? So that's all I was thinking about. I'm on my way there. You know what I mean? But the fact that it has the following. That it has. And people are so committed to the characters, you know what I'm saying? People are very. People are glued to their televisions, man. And that's what I've learned. Okay? So I've had different kinds of fame, you know what I'm saying? Like, I've had like the underground hip hop fan, I had the mainstream superstar fame. I've had the all day on CNN fame, you know what I'm saying?

[DJ Envy]

Reality show.

[T.I.]

Yeah, I've had. But see that, that TV fame, like when the movie fame, like, okay, he in a movie with Denzel. I had all that kind of fame. But that TV show fame, when they sitting in they house watching you on a consistent basis every Tuesday, Thursday, whenever your show come on at this time, while they eating and they looking and. And they do that week after week after week after month after month after month after year after year after year. That's a different kind of fame, right?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Wow.

[T.I.]

That is different.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Bigger than having the number one album?

[T.I.]

Yes.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Wow.

[T.I.]

Yes, yes, yes. I promise you to God, you catch one of them housewives walking through the airport, and the person with the number one aisle walk through the airport, people gonna flock to the housewife, they gonna flock to the love and hip hop, they gonna flock to the baddies or whatever. Whatever they consistently. It's, it's. It's tattooed on their mind, right? You feel me? That song, you gonna listen to it in the car and you get out, you know what I'm saying? You're gonna listen while you clean it up, then you lead out. You know what I mean? That, that, that. That TV fame, bro, is different, you know what I mean? And, and that showed me just how much people are committed. Because if I, if it one more. These are characters. This is make believe. People, People walk up to me, why you get that girl her chain back, man? Listen, listen, bro. Come on, man.

[Charlamagne tha God]

They've been talking about a sequel for the longest.

[T.I.]

Yeah, you know, hey, man, I mean, at what. I ain't even gonna say nothing else. I ain't gonna say nothing else, you know? I mean, you just. Just sit back and see what happened.

[Angela Yee]

Because it was supposed to be happening at one point, right?

[T.I.]

Yeah. You ain't just hit me when I said I wasn't gonna say nothing. Yeah, I think you said that you went to Charlemagne School.

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[T.I.]

You don't know, man, I done been interrogated by the Benson. They gonna get me like that with y'.

[Angela Yee]

All.

[T.I.]

I wanted to know, though.

[DJ Envy]

Even when you did that movie back then, did you say, well, maybe I Shouldn't do the movie. Right. Because at the time you was Trapper. You was hardcore. I would punch you in your face if I had to.

[T.I.]

That didn't. Never that. Never that, I guess.

[DJ Envy]

Cause that softened you up a little bit.

[T.I.]

No, it didn't.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, it did not.

[Angela Yee]

That's a dead.

[T.I.]

A little man.

[Charlamagne tha God]

He went to jail so much after that.

[DJ Envy]

No, no, no.

[T.I.]

I mean that's not true either. That's not true either though.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That was 06.

[T.I.]

Nah, that wasn't. It came out in 06. The movie was filmed 405.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, okay.

[T.I.]

Okay. I was just getting out of jail.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Actually at the time because that was the year King came out.

[T.I.]

King did come out the same week. Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

How did it help? Because you were just getting out at the time. So how did it help? As you were trying to.

[T.I.]

Like, how did. What happened?

[Angela Yee]

The movie. You said the movie came out in 2006. Right?

[T.I.]

The movie did come out in 2006, but I'm talking about I was just getting out of jail in 2004 when. No, 2005. End of 2004. 2005. When the. When the movie was being filmed. I was just getting out of jail.

[Angela Yee]

Got you.

[IBM Advertiser]

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[DJ Envy]

So.

[T.I.]

And it didn't really help me at all because I was already on fire. So when I got out of jail and dropped Urban Legend, that was. It was already up there. You know what I mean? That's like bring em out. You don't know me. You know what I'm saying? So it wasn't really. I ain't need no help. You know what I mean? But it did challenge me as an artist. It challenged me. I never considered not doing the movie because of the character or any of that. Being soft or none of that. Those types of things don't cross my mind. But I will say there was a time where I was like, man, I'm too rich for this. I got too much money for this. I had. Jed got like a $10 million check from Leor and Jed had got like a $7 million check from like Warner Chapel. And I hadn't even cashed the checks. I ain't had no time to spend no money and do nothing. I had a road run. So I pulled up first day of shoot. I pulled up 45 minutes, no, maybe an hour and a half late, blowing smoke out the sunroof of my brand new phantom that I was driving. By the way. I wasn't being chauffeured.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You remember when you talked about phantoms up here and nobody knew what it.

[T.I.]

Was Uh, I remember that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It was what you said. I forgot you said something about a fan.

[T.I.]

It was two fandoms. It was two phantoms in the city. Big boys. And mine, he had a burgundy one, I had a black one.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It was years.

[Angela Yee]

And you making $85,000 filming that movie, right?

[T.I.]

Yeah, I made about 85.

[Angela Yee]

So you pulling up all this?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, yeah.

[T.I.]

And they trying to tell me what to do, when to show up, when I'm like, are you serious? And so I did consider, man, let me give them folk that $85,000 bet so I can live my life. But Chris Robinson sat me down and he was like. Cause they were finna fire me. And he was like, yeah. They were like, man, let's get this kid out of here. But he was like, hey, man, listen, I know you don't really need this as much, but I'm a first time director. As a black director, Lauren's a first time actor. As a black actress, you have Evan Ross, He's a first time. Like all these people and all this opportunity is kind of hinging upon your commitment to this. So if you go down, we go down. I was like, but damn, don't put it like that, man. You know what I mean? So you know what I'm saying? Chris Robinson, Charlie Mack, Brian Sher, like, they all kind of, you know, had an intervention moment. And you know what I'm saying? I was like, all right, man. So, you know, that is the time I considered not doing the movie, but I'm happy I did.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I do want to say, in the storied history of Ti street lore, oh, man, after 2006, yeah, Tip, you was still out there. Like. Like. Cause the culmination was buying guns in 07.

[DJ Envy]

You see how you're trying to bring.

[T.I.]

Back up old stuff? No, I'm just saying. Nah, it's okay. Cause you know, therapy has, you know, allowed me. But see this reflection. It's reflection. It's reflection. I mean, man, I think that in life, man, when we finding our way, you know, we gotta do. We gotta do wrong to know how to do right.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Absolutely.

[T.I.]

You feel me? And. But when you're doing wrong, you just, you just accept the lessons that come with it. You accept the lessons to come with it and then you understand what path you don't want to go down.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's why, that's why you need a movie. Because people really don't know your story. Like, they don't know.

[T.I.]

I kind of like it that way, though.

[Charlamagne tha God]

In the hurdle you've been through, I.

[T.I.]

Kind of like it that way. But I'm working on a book too, though. I'm working on a book as well.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay, okay.

[T.I.]

Yeah, but I like it that way, that they don't know all everything. See, when people learn everything it is to know about you, ain't nothing else to come back for.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, no, but you got a different type of story, man.

[T.I.]

I feel you, man. The reason it's different is. Cause it's evergreen. It's ever changing. It's still morphing into whatever it will be one day. So I think that's the reason it different.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I was arguing. What was we arguing about with TI Cause, you know, I always say TI Needed versus King of the south, just so people can be reminded.

[T.I.]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

And it was TI Ritz's wife.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Because I think there's a generation that either forgets or doesn't realize how big TI the rapper was.

[Angela Yee]

Marco.

[T.I.]

Plesa rappers that list.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It was Marco. Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

He said was the King of the South. And, you know, Charlamagne goes off about T.I.

[T.I.]

Yeah, I wish, I wish. Thank you. Thank you. But I wish I care. I be trying to make myself kill and I can't, man. I didn't know. It's so many more important things, bro. I don't care, man. What I did is done. You feel me? It done for anybody on that part, Huh?

[Angela Yee]

I said, well, then just do the movie on that part.

[T.I.]

Oh, I'm not. I'm not objecting to the movie or anything. I'm just saying I don't really apply no energy into trying to remind people anything about me.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, you have to. Well, we have to. You know where it got to be cold.

[Angela Yee]

Because in the beginning of their argument, it was like he was standing on his business about J. Cole. And the conversation by the end, he was like, well, you know what? I am from Atlanta, and I this and I that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

How you Atlanta and a rapper and don't know how. TI Was like Tip, but also his.

[T.I.]

Age as well, too, at the same time, man. Bruh.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But he said you was his favorite rapper, which didn't make no sense to me. He was like, but, nah, that's one of my favorite rappers.

[T.I.]

Okay, so, but, but so, so people probably, they, they, they as they consume. J. Cole probably is what he has been consuming the most as of recent. So, you know what I'm saying? That's what you are consuming presently is what's gonna have the most impact on your decisions, on your opinions. So that probably what that is. It ain't, you know, And Both. It ain't got to be wrong, you know, if that's. If that's who the King of the south is to him, then enjoy that kingdom.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, but even levels of celebrity, right? Number one movie and number one album at the same goddamn time.

[T.I.]

I mean, bruh, come on, man.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's different. That's different.

[T.I.]

God has been good to me. You feel what I'm saying? God has been good to me, man.

[DJ Envy]

And I want to, you know, I want to go back to the reality show. You talk about how famous.

[T.I.]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Let me say one more thing. I'm still cold as a. On the mic, and I still. But. And. And to be honest with you, I'm gonna just. Cause I don't wanna. I don't wanna negate any of these facts. Can't nobody fuck with me. I'm gonna just let you know that now. You understand? Go in the booth with anybody, walk out with the better verse. I go to. I go head to head with dro. So I go against anybody. I don't give a damn who.

[DJ Envy]

You got that.

[T.I.]

Bring them on. They can't with me. Live performance. Can't with me. Hit for hit songs. You just can't with me. You know, I mean, that might be somebody that certain people like better. That's your opinion, okay? But bottom line, can't with me and anybody think I'm like anybody who think. You know what I'm saying, that. That. What I'm saying is some line me up with whoever you got, anybody. I don't give a damn who it is.

[Charlamagne tha God]

20 for 20.

[T.I.]

Help the bear, you hear me? I don't give a damn who it is, man. I don't give a damn who it is.

[DJ Envy]

I don't care.

[T.I.]

Y' all bringing this out. Bringing this out. Let me just say one thing. Y' all bringing this out.

[DJ Envy]

Y' all can't tie my shoes. I just gonna say that.

[T.I.]

Yeah. I've been saying, man, like, I'm humble out, you know? And I, I, I. God bless everybody, but you can't with me.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You can't go in street. Even God know this clubs, introspective records, features. Come on.

[T.I.]

I appreciate that. Thank you. And humility is the key, you know what I'm saying? I've learned that, you know, being humble is gonna take you way farther than being arrogant. But let the facts be known that can't nobody fuck with me.

[DJ Envy]

I wanna go back to you talking about the reality show and how big that was. Do you ever regret having your Family on it. Because people judge them differently without seeing them. Cause they see you first, Whether it's your sons that's doing music, your daughters that's doing music. Like, do you ever regret that part of it?

[T.I.]

I don't have no regrets. You know what I'm saying? I don't have no regrets. I think that I have the most elaborate photo album as a father that anyone could have. You know what I'm saying? I could go back instead of pulling out a photo album. I can look at season three of Family Hustle.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Got you.

[T.I.]

And see Kane, you know, with his braces, you know what I'm saying? C major, you know, like, as a little bitty man, a little bitty mini man, you know, all. And see. Neat. Neat. Before she knew how to. Before she was driving. Like, I could go back and relive some very, very. Like, just some special moments in my family's life. So that even by that alone, it's substantial and it's worthwhile to me.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, man. When all your titles fade to rapper, mogul, comedian, what you want your name.

[T.I.]

To represent my family, my children, my grandchildren, like all the rest of this, man. This is business. You feel what I'm saying? Get wrapped up in no business. You know what I mean? This is business. Whatever we doing is good is only as good as long as the money lasts. You feel me? If they stop paying you right now, would you care about coming in here?

[Charlamagne tha God]

No.

[T.I.]

Exactly. You feel what I'm saying? Exactly. I'm just saying, come on, bro.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I got plenty microphones.

[T.I.]

That's how I feel like. I don't care about none of this shit. For real, dog. I don't really care, man. I don't care nothing about it. I feel like it's something that I love it because it's been so good to me. But present day, this is not the focus of my life because I can direct my time, effort, energy and attention in other areas and make as much or more money. And what's more important to me, family and children, grandchildren now, and building platforms and stuff for them so they can go on and be great and follow their dreams and do what they love. Like, for me, I done did, man. I did, man. You know, I don't need to be more famous. I might.

[DJ Envy]

How's it feel to be a grandfather? You said that twice.

[T.I.]

How's that feel? I love it.

[DJ Envy]

Why you send the kids back home when you're done?

[T.I.]

I mean, man, they can stay. I don't care. They don't bother me. They can Stay. I like, you know, the bad ones, you know what I'm saying? The one don't nobody else want, like. Cause that remind me of me, you know what I'm saying? I like the bad one. Like everybody. I don't want to deal with them, man. Come on, bring them to me. Yeah. I mean, I wear their little ass out, you know what I'm saying? You ain't mad at me. I know you can't be mad at me. Come on, let's have at it, you know, but you know, there's a bond that is created when you find cause when kid be bad that they know don't nobody want to be bothered with them. They can feel it. They know because I knew it. They know I would. The kid, they were like, nah, nah, I ain't taking him. But I was bad, so I understood. But the people who did take the time out and like, kind of showed me because the kid. Ain't nothing wrong with the kid. The problem is the adults expecting the kid to know the right thing to do before they being taught.

[Charlamagne tha God]

They just kids.

[T.I.]

Yeah. I mean, they trying. They trying to it and they pulled the tribe. But when. When a child sees somebody that is willing to invest the kind of time, attention and instruction in them, it creates a bond and you know what I'm saying? That's what I appreciate.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And nobody acknowledges how King seemed to turn the corner. Like King when he was wild and everybody had so much to say, but now that he seemed to be on.

[Angela Yee]

The straight line, nobody got nothing to do with him. He is, first of all, he's funny as hell.

[T.I.]

Yeah, he is, man. King is funny. It's a lot that King people don't know about him. You know what I'm. And he. Man, he's extremely talented and he has a huge heart and he cares a lot. That's the thing I have, man. He cares so much. How do you care so much about stuff? I don't care. You know what I mean? And he as a father, he's a great dad, you know what I'm saying? He made me feel like I didn't spend enough time with my kids, you know what I'm saying? But I think that he's young, bro. If I think about where I was when I was his age, when he was running around and, you know, enjoying his youth. You can spend your youth however you want to, and that's how he chose to spend his. And that's his prerogative, you know what I'm saying? But you shouldn't critique Too much too soon. Cause everybody got everything now all over, you know, the Internet for all to observe and give opinions on. Man, let the man grow up. You know what I mean? And you know, he growing up and he gonna be all right. He's straight.

[Angela Yee]

Would you ever do. Cause now that you control your own content, like what you're doing with your special, would you ever put together something family wise with your family again that you control? And you kind of put it. Cause y' all clips that y' all post is like, it's such a. Even a moment with your daughter and the Grinch.

[T.I.]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

And your caption, it's. It's like, it makes us feel like the reality show that you guys have, but we only get it in clips now.

[T.I.]

Well, you know what? Good. Nah, man, if I did do it, that's the only way it'll get done. Something that we control, something that we, you know, I'm saying that belongs to us. But that's not, that's not outside the realm of possibilities. Demonic. You know, he is the, I guess the, the curator of those clips. The money. Like, I guess Slick directs those clips because he has a vision. He sees things. He kind of, I guess, studies the algorithm. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what the hell that means.

[Angela Yee]

I feel like that Holiday Harris, that's.

[T.I.]

All the money, the money to say, hey man, we need to do. We need to do something. Come to the house at 3 o' clock on Monday, everybody. All right, cool. You know what I mean? So everybody pulled up, like, what's up? You do this, you do this, you do this, you do this. And then, you know, it was just a very small piece of my time, my day. I was out of there about 3:45, 3:30. I was like, man, this all right. You know what I mean? But that's his vision, bro. And the whole family just kind of fell in line with his vision.

[Angela Yee]

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[Charlamagne tha God]

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[T.I.]

Even the stuff with him and King, that's like, man, the money said, man, if King just listened to me, I say, bro, you hear big brother, man, like, jay, go talk to him. Go tell him. No, man. You need to tell him. No. I mean, daddy, why I need to tell him? I like. Because King and demani have a very strange. I ain't gonna say a strange, but it's a different dynamic. Because when they were young, right, when they were youthful, like, let's say When King was 6, Demani was 10. Like, they were the ones that got the most whoopings in the house. They were the bad ones. You know what I mean? They were the ones who let go outside, even though he said, don't go outside. You know what I'm saying? Let's go do this. Even though we know we ain't posed to. It was them two together, right? Then all of a sudden, Damani grew up and just kind of got like, grow like, man, I ain't got time for that. And now King like, bro, what's up? You know what I'm saying? And King was still on that. And so they have a different. And I told that to Demon. I say, bro, y' all used to get whoopings together, bro. Y', all, like, co defendants in a way. And now you just. That get turned your life around, gave it to God, and then forgot about your partner.

[Charlamagne tha God]

For real.

[T.I.]

And he say, bro, I never thought about it like that. And so he went to his brother, and they talked. I don't know what they talked about. I don't know how, you know, how it turned out, but they threw hands. Not this time, but early on, they threw hands.

[DJ Envy]

You stopped it or you just let him go?

[T.I.]

No, I wasn't there. They both were calling me, you know what I'm saying? Was, like, at the peak of his own one. Right?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Right.

[T.I.]

And the matter like. Like, man, he ain't not tough. He think he. I'm gonna show him he ain't tough as he think he is. I'm gonna show him ain't nobody gonna do nothing about it. I'm gonna do something about it. And I. I'm not used to hearing Damani talk like that. So I'm like, see where this goes? I mean, hey. And so. And, you know, Damani showed up to the studio, and King, she stood on Benny, you know what I'm saying? And they threw hands and they. And. But afterwards, they had a mutual respect.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I was in one of those, man.

[T.I.]

To be honest with you. If the little brother fighting the big brother, there is no winner or loser. For real. You know what I'm saying? I think that the winner was that they both learned something about each other that caused them to deal with each other different. But this particular moment, I was like, man, just call your brother. Talk to her. So he called, talk to her. And King started listening to Damani, and they started doing content together. And, you know, and here we are. We love it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I just got a couple more questions. It's the holiday season, right? And everybody know you got that bag. So I know.

[T.I.]

That's what we need to pause. You know what I'm saying? We need to pause like that. You know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne tha God]

But you've been getting it for a long time. So people reach out to you, right? So I know you got to be selective. There's a story I always hear about you that I think is an amazing story, but I just wonder what made you do it. When Michael Vick reached out to you and he reached out to you and they said he just. He just. You just. Oh, no. You called him just to check in?

[T.I.]

Nah, he was just getting out that day.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, it was the funny day he.

[T.I.]

Got out, so I hit him. You know what I'm saying? See what was up with him? And the part of this story that's more interesting, what they don't realize is that was the day I was turning myself in. Oh, yeah. I was turning myself in that day. And so, yeah, I. You know, he was coming out, I was going in, so I, you know, I was hitting him just to see what was up, how he was doing. And this is funny. It's a comedian in the Haha mafia that. He had his name Fat Man Deezy, funny here. But he. He got a joke like, you know what I'm saying? Just say hello. Don't ask people how they doing. Cause somebody gonna tell you how they doing. So I learned that that day, so you know what I'm saying? So I called and I said, man, what's up, man? How you doing? How. He said, man, matter of fact, man, I'm just getting that, man. I'm, you know, I'm. I'm. I'm down bad. You know what I'm saying? I could use Some, you know. Well, he ain't ask for nothing. He was just saying how his situation was, you know, financially stressful. And so I was like. And I just happened to have been. Even though I was turning myself in, I was at a point where. Coming off a paper trail and, you know, I was having it. And I was like, man, you know what, bro? Send me your instructions and I, you know, your wiring instructions.

[Charlamagne tha God]

75 grand.

[T.I.]

He told y' all that?

[Charlamagne tha God]

I don't know. I saw it online.

[T.I.]

Numbers are not important. You know what I'm saying? The gestures was important. Golly. Nah, man. But yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that was. It was something like that. I thought it was 50, but if it was 75. So we.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What made you do it?

[T.I.]

Just because I just. Cuz, man, a lot of times when I'm going through stuff, I take my mind off of what I'm going through by trying to help somebody else. You know what I'm saying? So that's dope. Yeah, but, but, but Vic, man, Vic was. We were tight, like, you know what I'm saying? We. We. We were running the city at our time.

[DJ Envy]

He was.

[T.I.]

You know what I mean? It was. I was cool with the hottest quarterback in the NFL. Like, we were partners, you know what I mean? He come to my house, I go to his house. Like, we were really homeboy. We'd go out together, hang out, you know, do stuff he wasn't supposed to be doing while he was playing ball together, you know what I'm saying? So when he went through that, I just felt bad to see him going through it. And then I started going through it. So you know what I'm saying? When I spoke to him, I just was happy he was coming home. And I just wanted to. To help.

[DJ Envy]

But see, I got. I got six kids, man. One in college.

[T.I.]

You do?

[DJ Envy]

Very expensive, man.

[T.I.]

It is.

[DJ Envy]

Ask me how I'm doing.

[T.I.]

How you doing?

[DJ Envy]

I'm not doing that great, man.

[T.I.]

You're not?

[DJ Envy]

You want to help a brother out.

[T.I.]

Help you out with some advice. I got great advice. And see that why I feel like. And you know what? We should stop. We should stop talking about how much money people got. It should be illegal to say how much money somebody had ass online and. And like, publicly stated. You know what I mean?

[DJ Envy]

You just gotta check from om.

[T.I.]

See that what I'm saying. That's what it should be. It should be. It should be done differently. You know what I'm saying? You could say that something was won. You could say that. You know, it is Said that what they start right now, what they start, what they should start publicizing is bills. They should start publicizing bills.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But you know, it's good.

[T.I.]

Don't nobody tell nothing about. Because everybody, every time you look at somebody who got more money than you, just remember they got more bills than you as well.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That is true. But even when you do great things, like Entrada. That's how you pronounce it.

[T.I.]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

West side 143, unit complex providing housing for low income families and homeless youth. That's a big deal. Yeah, you gotta have a check to even make that happen.

[T.I.]

That's right. I mean, you know, it's a blessing to be able to. You know what I mean? And I'm a vessel, you know what I mean? Everything that you see happening for me is happening through me, you know what I'm saying? I'm an instrument that God is using for his purpose. And I'm happy to be here to do so. It's not just because of me, because I'm so talented, because I'm so good looking, because I'm so cool. This, that. It's God. God is the reason. Because I tried to fuck this shit up a long time ago. I promise you, I did. Like, you know what I mean? If it was just on me and my talent, I would have been out of here a long time ago. It's truly God's work. And I'm just happy to be here to be able to do God's work. And Trotter is just one of the things that, you know, even before in Trotta we, you know, new finishes, man. We built over a hundred houses in the community before it was gentrification, before they was talking about that. We were building houses. You know, I built the crack house. I bought a crack house. A house I sold crack in, bought it, renovated it, kicked the junkies out and put a family in it, you know what I'm saying? And I didn't. Well, you know, six months later it was back. A crack house. But that's neither here nor there, you know. That's when I learned that to make a significant impact, you got to kind of, you know, I guess value, you need more value doing it one at a time. I wasn't getting the ground covered that I wanted to. So ENTRADA Is it 43, 143 units?

[Charlamagne tha God]

147, 143, 143.

[T.I.]

Okay. But then it's a certain percentage, 100% affordable housing and in Atlanta, you know what I'm saying? It's hard to find affordable housing in the city. So you know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne tha God]

That was 25 are reserved for at risk.

[T.I.]

25 reserved for homeless youth. At risk. I don't want to say at Rich. Let's say at Promise. There's a Promise center on the west side, you know, it's like a kind of like a updated boys and girl club, you know what I'm saying? We put a studio in there for the kids who want to record. They teach skills and trades and stuff like that, helping with homework. So it's dope. But yeah, so those are reserved for at proma homeless youth. And I'm proud of that. Now, one thing I will say since I'm here on the radio, we got 12,000 square feet of retail and it's a food desert over there. I'm trying to get a supermarket. I need a grocery store, pharmacy to come and partner with us and service the community. Because there is no fresh produce, fresh fruit, you know what I mean? Even if it's a farmer market, we need food over there. Cause ain't nowhere to eat, you know what I mean? Except for, you know, chicken wings and french fries and hamburgers and stuff. So. And then for the elderly, for the old people, they got to get too far out the community to fill their prescription. So we need pharmacy and a supermarket. So anybody out there listening who want a partner, there ain't gonna be much money in it now, you know what I'm saying? So understand that this ain't a money play, but it will be some phenomenal pr, you know what I mean? People, just like they commended me, they would be commending you. I mean, so let's put, you know, let's put passion over profit right here. And you know, let's collaborate. Anybody.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But this is so interesting because this is the type of stuff you've been doing for so long. Like, you, you know, you mentioned new finish, right? And I remember seeing you on, I think it might have been Diary on MTV back in the day, one of them shows. And you showed how you was building these homes. And then of course, you said it in new finish alone will make me dumb rich. Maybe it was motivation.

[T.I.]

I thought so I was wrong. I thought it would make me dumb rich. But see, the housing, the market crashed. Oh, you see what I'm saying? Before I could really cash out on it, the market crashed.

[DJ Envy]

That's what, 2008, right?

[T.I.]

Yeah. And I would go, I was fighting the case right then. And so I needed that little money.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But nobody Talks about that type of stuff. When it comes to the rappers, they always want to talk about the gangster shit and street shit. No, they talk about drugs all day. Like, no, you ain't listening to the.

[T.I.]

Music, then I'm not paying attention, I think. You know what I'm saying, man, we do spend a lot of time talking about the things that we spend a lot of time doing, you know what I mean? But there are other things that are just important to get mentioned that are overlooked.

[IBM Advertiser]

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[Charlamagne tha God]

Now, speaking of apartments, don't you got departments on tubing?

[T.I.]

Yeah, departments is on tubing now, everybody, man, go. Go see. Go see departments on tubing. You know what I mean? We proud to be on there with the rest of our independent writers, directors and creatives.

[Angela Yee]

That's right, yeah.

[T.I.]

I mean, so, yeah, go see the apartment, man. The funny thing you gonna watch today.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And I see you started back expeditiously.

[DJ Envy]

Expeditiously.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Are you gonna be consistent with it this time?

[T.I.]

I was consistent with it last time.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But then you quit.

[T.I.]

No money. Y' all start paying people right after I, you know what I'm saying? The day you lay off and the day it pay off, you know what I'm saying? Right after I said, man, man, this shit that. When they said 20 million here, 30 million there, I said, man, oh, so you didn't like me? That's what it was.

[DJ Envy]

It was me.

[T.I.]

Yeah, man, expeditiously, every Tuesday, man. Also independent, you know what I'm saying? You just go to wherever you listen to your podcast, and I'd be somewhere at the bottom of the list. You know what I mean?

[Charlamagne tha God]

No. I was in a meeting yesterday and some white folks bought up expeditiously. Do you know that was one of the biggest podcasts in the world at one point?

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, I was talking to somebody this morning who was like, yeah, expedition. He comes back and I said, it's back.

[T.I.]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Every Tuesday, man. Proud of the conversations we've been having. Just did Ambassador Young. A two part on Ambassador Young. And you know, man, he shed so much gain on, like, the civil rights movement and just talking about, you know, our leaders in a way that ain't nobody really, really spoke about them before, like, candidly, you know what I mean? From a personal perspective, we just wrapped a episode with Mayor Andre Dickens, you know what I'm saying? Again, candidly, Like, I don't think when people come to my show, like, we just sit and have conversation, we just talk. Opened up with AI, got Shaq in the can on the Way. Did a dope interview with Dallas Austin. You know what I'm saying? Some game. Oh, DJ tune, you know what I mean?

[Angela Yee]

PSC is on there.

[T.I.]

Yeah, psc. Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, y'. All. That was a dope.

[T.I.]

Yeah, man. Did an episode with the clique. So. Yeah, man. You know what I'm saying? I'm doing it. I'm doing it. And so we gonna see what happened. We gonna see what happened.

[DJ Envy]

Now you love.

[T.I.]

They tell them white folk, man. Get them white folk my number.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I just put us on email, say.

[T.I.]

Lil man, I don't need your email. I said, give him my number, but I didn't. I text my number on you.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay, okay. Don't worry about it.

[DJ Envy]

So now you. You know, you love mixtape DJs. You love DJs.

[T.I.]

I do, I do.

[DJ Envy]

You got a record that's coming out soon. Can we have it? Can I have it?

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's a tough tune. Can I have it? You and Pharrell, the record is produced.

[T.I.]

I don't know if you want to say that.

[DJ Envy]

He ain't say nothing about the record yet, big mouth.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Well, I was going to say you and Pharrell have.

[T.I.]

Damn it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I think it's some of the most underrated chemistry in hip hop history between pharisoa and rapper.

[T.I.]

Hell yeah, man. I'm proud. You know, Pharrell with the first. The first, like, you know, like, top chart topping producer that decided to work with me.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm serious.

[T.I.]

Oh, I'm serious. And, you know, and since then, we've had so many records. Like, she a freak, though. You know what I mean? Like, it's just so many records that we've had. But get what?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Robbing thick joint?

[T.I.]

We ain't never. Yeah, that was they record. That was their. Hey, man. Nah. But that was. I was happy to be there. I was happy to be there. We had a good time, but. But we've never had a single, though. Out of all the record we done did, we never had a single.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And you know, Beanie, man, that was your first single off.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I'm serious.

[T.I.]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'm talking about like a hit.

[Sophie Cunningham]

A hit.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay, okay. Got you, got you, got you.

[T.I.]

I'm talking about a hit. We had bops. We. We got plenty of bops. But I'm talking about, like, you know what I'm saying? With all of the success that I had, you know, for Pharrell to not be, you know what I mean, in that conversation, in them hits, you know what I'm saying? I think we need to fix that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

He also gave you one of the most powerful co signs that I think put you in another stratosphere. I forgot which gangster grill it was, but he said that you were like the Jay Z of the South. It was an interlude and he was talking about you and he said he was like the Jay Z of the South.

[T.I.]

And I think.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I think just like when you called yourself the king of the south, that made people listen to you with a different ear.

[T.I.]

I appreciate that, man. And I mean, Pharrell, I always been my brother. But there's certain people in this game that when I go in the studio with you already know something. Coming out Dangerous Pharrell is one, Toomp is the other. Swizz Beats is another. Jazzy Faye is another. You know what I'm saying? It just certain people. Manny Flash is another top back big shit popping. Yeah. I mean, it just certain people when I just Blaze is another certain people. When I walk in with them, bro, you just know it gonna be stupid.

[DJ Envy]

So let's introduce the record right now.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Hold on, one last thing. Since you just brought up Justin, we.

[T.I.]

Can introduce it in conversation. It called let em know.

[Angela Yee]

When is it coming.

[T.I.]

Nah, I can't wait. I can't wait to play it for you, man. For everybody else, it's coming. It coming January 23rd, bro. We gonna put it out. But you know what I'm saying, I will be giving, you know what I'm saying, previews through DJs. You know, I just wanna make sure that when the DJ have it, it's on the dsp. So once they hear it from and go somewhere. Yeah. So I actually get. Because I need all the little numbers and counts that I can get, you know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne tha God]

You do have a very dope record. I'm talking to you with just Blaze.

[T.I.]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Is that a dish record? No, it's not a dish.

[T.I.]

Nah, it was just.

[DJ Envy]

It.

[T.I.]

It was. It was a. It was an attention record. I was shock jockeying.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay.

[T.I.]

You know what I'm saying? I just wanted the conversation to start. Okay, okay, okay.

[IBM Advertiser]

Yeah.

[T.I.]

It wasn't no dis record. I would really just, you know, like when I say stuff like. Like it's only five rappers out of Atlanta who busting and I'm one of them. The other four, you know who you are. But if you gotta think twice, like, it was just like, you know, it was a mind fuck.

[Charlamagne tha God]

When you said, I ain't talking about Jigga. That's my nigga, the real.

[T.I.]

I said whoever I Wasn't. Well, that wasn't no diss. I mean, I just said that. That's President Carter, like he was the.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Everybody thought it was a Lil Wayne diss.

[T.I.]

No, no, no, no, no, no. President Carter. Because he was the president.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You said the real President Carter.

[T.I.]

But President. Cause it's a President Carter that was once the President of the United States.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Got you.

[T.I.]

You feel me? He was the president of Def Jam at the time.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay?

[T.I.]

There was no Dizzy Lil Wayne.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay?

[T.I.]

You gotta think, man. You got the devil layers, man. Layers. But you didn't mention that's a quadruple entendre.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's just an old hip hop lore.

[T.I.]

That I was thinking. Nah, man. Wayne, man, I'm a Hot Boys fan. First off, I used to cut crack and listen, I ain't bullshitting. I'm dead serious. I used to cut cookies of crack into dimes and dubs listening to the Hot Boys, bg, Big Timers and Lil Wayne. So I ain't. Man, I got a lot of love and respect for all those. Nigga, cuz, nigga, if I. If, nigga, I was on my bicycle selling dope to your music. You feel me? So that's a different level of respect. I ain't. You know what I mean? Even though I know you know what I'm saying, we in a competitive state. I can't negate the fact that I used to listen to your shit before I became who I am. You know what I mean?

[Angela Yee]

That's why you want to talk about the Wayne Ti Versus.

[T.I.]

No. I ain't say nobody can't fuck with me. Did you hear what I said? But, I mean, I say that as respectfully as I can. It ain't that I'm avoiding it. It's just like if you start trying to. If you start trying to just compare yourself with splitting hairs with who's better with this and that, I' ma just cover it all. Can't nobody fuck with me, but I'm on a positive. You know what I mean? I'm on my positive shit. So.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That would be phenomenal.

[T.I.]

I would love to do a version with Wayne. I think they say him and Homie Hole finna do it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I don't think that's real.

[T.I.]

I heard. I think Timberland. Timberland announced.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I don't want to see that. I'd rather see Jay Z and Nas.

[T.I.]

Jay Z and Nas would be dope. Gotta be fire. Yeah, I love to do. I love to do a version with Wayne. Wayne, you know, he. He. He dope. He dope. He dope. The dopest. You know what I mean? The dopest beside me.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yep. But I'm put. I bet y' all put it all on tip that day. Draftkings fan, dude.

[T.I.]

Hey, man, I appreciate it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm putting it on tip.

[T.I.]

Oh, I got a Wayne record too, man. Me and. Me and tune, we got a record together as well.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay.

[T.I.]

Antune did a record with buddy Redd.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Your son.

[T.I.]

Yeah. The tune hit me. Tune hit me. I'm like, hey, hey, man, let me get. Man, give me. I need to get with your son. I'm thinking he was talking about the money. I was like, who you say, man? Your son, man. You know, the one. The one with the guitar. I said, oh, buddy Red. So, yeah, he did a record with buddy Redd, man. And that's love. You feel me? You know, to hit me. It one thing. You hit me and we collaborate together. But you hit me and you talking about collaborating with my child. Excuse me. I shouldn't say that. He ain't gonna like that with my son, man. You know what I mean? My first born son and, you know, and he ain't even at a point in his career right now where he got the numbers that would justify. And Wayne just did it just out of sheer love. Yeah. I mean, so that's hard. That's hard.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[T.I.]

I appreciate that.

[DJ Envy]

That's dope. Well, ladies and gentlemen, it's tip. Don't forget cheaper than therapy comes out on the 24th comedy special. We appreciate you, brother.

[T.I.]

Hey, departments on tubi. PSC still in the street. DJ drama, Gangster grill. New year's eve. New year's Eve. And you got the record with me and Pharrell coming January 23rd.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Kill the King album.

[T.I.]

Kill the king album gonna be coming. It coming when I see when I tell you. Just stay tuned. It's the breakfast club.

[DJ Envy]

It's tip.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Every day I wake up.

[T.I.]

Wake your ass up. The breakfast club.

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