It's Up There: Corey Holcomb & Anton Daniels Beef Explained — Why This Went Left

Summary

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The Breakfast Club | "It's Up There: Corey Holcomb & Anton Daniels Beef Explained — Why This Went Left"

Date: February 7, 2026
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, and Charlamagne Tha God
Main Guests/Subjects: Corey Holcomb, Anton Daniels

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the viral confrontation between comedian Corey Holcomb and content creator Anton Daniels. The conversation explores why their heated exchange turned so volatile, what it reveals about masculinity, respect, and boundaries in Black culture and podcasting, and, ultimately, why the situation didn’t escalate further. The analysis offers insight into the personalities and unwritten rules that shaped this public "beef," dissecting the moment point by point with community commentary and real-time breakdowns.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Setting the Stage: Corey Holcomb vs. Anton Daniels (05:30–11:00)

• Corey Holcomb, known for his unapologetic and authentic stance, meets Anton Daniels, a well-known and business-focused content creator.
• Tension has built online as viewers wonder if Holcomb’s confrontational bravado is real or performative when truly challenged.
• Host (Commentator/Analyst): “Corey has this bravado about him... what they believe authentic is... if somebody crossed the line, you gonna handle that like the old Vikings handled it.” (07:00)

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2. The Clash Begins: Disrespect and Intellectual Shots (11:38–18:18)

• Disagreement intensifies over police violence and race, with Holcomb making pointed statements about systemic oppression, and Daniels critiquing Holcomb's use of blanket statements.
• Anton accuses Corey of not challenging white men with the same energy:
  • Anton Daniels: “You should say that one time because it’s easy to say all black ass was stupid as an example. Say something about the white people.” (12:10)
• The analyst notes that Anton is beginning to attack Corey’s intellect:
  • Commentator/Analyst: “He started with a lot of reductionist talking points... before we get to the sex play, there was already violative kind of language.” (22:15)

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3. The Confrontation Escalates: Sex-Play & ‘Lines Being Crossed’ (23:20–33:37)

• Insults escalate from accusations of “ass kissing” to direct references to “dick sucking”—a term that acts as a major trigger within Black male culture:
  • Anton Daniels: “Yes you are, you suck the dick of these people right now.” (23:37)
  • Corey Holcomb: “I don’t do no dick sucking shit. I’m a man.” (28:30)
• Physical posturing—Corey stands up, approaches Anton, threatening violence if the line is crossed further. The tension is palpable.
• Analyst explains the unspoken rule:
  • Commentator/Analyst: “There’s a contract in the Black community as it pertains to some of these sex, playing, dick jokes... you gotta go. Sometimes it just is what it is.” (25:54)

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4. Who Would Actually ‘Go There’? Testing Boundaries, Bluffs, and Street Codes (33:40–39:11)

• Anton calls Corey’s bluff, suggesting they “go out back.”
  • Anton Daniels: “We can go back right now.” (33:37)
• Analyst notes both men are bluffing, but Anton senses Corey isn’t as dangerous as his public persona suggests:
  • Commentator/Analyst: “Both of these n****s were bluffing. But he flipped the table on Corey right here. When he said, ‘we can go out back,’ Corey [was] supposed to accept that.” (34:42)
• The threat of lawsuits and awareness of being on camera likely influence both men’s restraint.

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5. Pivotal Moment: De-escalation, Respect, and (Partial) Resolution (41:46–44:50)

• Corey apologizes for the “dick sucking” comment, revealing a mutual recognition of boundary-crossing:
  • Corey Holcomb: “I don’t believe you knew what you was doing when you said something about dick sucking, brother. I apologize, okay?” (41:46)
  • Anton Daniels: “I appreciate that. Because this ain’t no show. The last thing I want to do is get into it with you physically, but I have a switch.”
• Insight emerges about masculinity and respect for boundaries, especially concerning “manhood” and perceived homosexual insults in Black culture.
  • Corey Holcomb: “Manhood is all we got left. So when a man walk up to you and say something flirtatious... that can set a man off if you in his face.” (45:04)

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6. Back to Banter: The Issue of Hypocrisy & Playing to the Crowd (54:13–60:31)

• Both men resume trading shots—Anton calls Corey a hypocrite; Corey accuses Anton of not applying equal scrutiny to white men.
  • Anton Daniels: “You think that you can say what you want to say and that people are supposed to respect your... way that you move. But I don’t think that you move the way that you’re supposed to.” (58:17)
  • Corey Holcomb: “Brother Anton is talking about everybody else but himself and white men.” (58:28)
• Anton openly claims to have “shitted” on Corey:
  • Anton Daniels: “I feel like I shitted on you to your face.” (58:57)
• Analyst highlights that Anton has fully lost respect for Corey’s purported aggressiveness, and that the audience now views Corey differently.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Corey Holcomb (on disrespect): “I’m not an ass kisser of nobody.” (02:10)
• Anton Daniels (calling out hypocrisy): “You can’t pick and choose when you can disrespect somebody... and then pick and choose when you’re going to react. You wrong, bro.” (45:51)
• Corey Holcomb (on manhood): “If we don’t have our manhood, we ain’t got nothing.” (45:11)
• Anton Daniels (on the moment turning): “Say I suck a dick again—I’m right here, right now.” (32:19)
• Commentator/Analyst (on lost respect): “Anton Daniels has lost all faith that Corey Holcomb is willing to get aggressive and get violent with him on set.” (51:46)
• Corey Holcomb (attempting to restore reputation): “I gotta redeem myself, give my fan base something to work with... I stand on it.” (62:46)

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Key Timestamps for Reference

• Authenticity & Audience Expectations: 07:00
• Escalating Disrespect/First “Dick Sucking” Insult: 23:37
• Physical Stand-Off/“Go Out Back” Moment: 33:37–34:49
• Attempted De-escalation & Apologies: 41:46–44:50
• Final Verbal Jabs ("You ain't that tough"): 39:37–40:49
• Restoring Reputation / End Scene: 62:03–62:46

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Episode Tone

Tense, raw, sometimes combative but ultimately revealing. Both hosts and analyst are honest—sometimes brutally—about masculinity, Black community dynamics, and performative versus real aggression. The language is unfiltered, reflecting both street-level bravado and podcasting’s culture-clash.

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Final Takeaways

• The episode serves as a cautionary tale about playing too close to the edge of disrespect for public content, and how quickly things can move from verbal to physical—or, in this case, almost.
• It also uncovers how complicated masculinity, authenticity, and reputation are, especially for Black men in the public eye.
• Both Corey Holcomb and Anton Daniels end up exposed: one for posturing without real consequence, the other for testing limits but not fully going there.

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For listeners and observers:
If you want a case study in male ego, podcast beefs, and the blurred lines between persona and reality, this episode is rich, layered, and at times (uncomfortably) honest.

Transcript

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[Anton Daniels]

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[Anton Daniels]

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[Corey Holcomb]

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[Anton Daniels]

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[Podcast Narrator]

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[Commentator/Analyst]

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[Podcast Narrator]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Commentator/Analyst]

So, no, I am not your guru.

[Ryder Strong]

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[Anton Daniels]

They have had this case for 30 years.

[Ryder Strong]

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[Corey Holcomb]

Man, what you talking about?

[Anton Daniels]

If you want to get back to the conversation, ain't no. Because you ain't gonna do.

[Corey Holcomb]

Cause you're not gonna come at me with that sucking. You're not gonna come see, I suck again.

[Anton Daniels]

We can go back right now. We can go back right now.

[Corey Holcomb]

I'm with it. I bet you won't say that we.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Yeah, I ain't gonna lie right there. He looked in his eyes and said, oh, this might be the mold. He snapped. He looked in that boy eyes. That boy eyes told him he might actually swing. So he got up and got out of harm's way.

[Corey Holcomb]

I'm not an ass kisser of nobody.

[Anton Daniels]

Yes, you are. You suck the of black people right now.

[Commentator/Analyst]

This particular point, Anton Daniels has lost all faith that Corey Holcomb is willing to get aggressive and get violent with him on set. Again, if I rewind you back to that first 30 seconds when he first got in his face and he said, say something else again, that two or three minute time lapse, Anton Daniels feared that at some point this would get physical.

[Corey Holcomb]

I don't suck this. Yeah, you do. Yeah, you do. So fix.

[Anton Daniels]

You're doing it right now.

[Corey Holcomb]

I don't suck.

[Anton Daniels]

You doing it right now.

[Corey Holcomb]

Believe me when I tell you I don't do that. Tell you I don't do that.

[Anton Daniels]

Listen, listen.

[Corey Holcomb]

So don't come at me with no dicks.

[Anton Daniels]

I'mma give you the same energy. Hear me?

[Commentator/Analyst]

If I'm one of them goons, I'm creeping over there to him. He. He'll look over. I got that in the. I had it in the sleeper hole. He'll look over. I had it in the. Ted. DB I said sleep a hole. Holding him like this right here. Cross face, chicken wing. He be sleep. And then I let him go. And then we'll ask Anton, you still talking like that? This year for us is about community. We're gonna spend a lot of time on that, man. So I want to thank all y', all, man, and continue to watch the videos, continue to sham put the height points on them. I don't even know what that is, but the production people are telling me there's something new called hype points. So put height points on the videos and, and let people know it's up there. Podcast new episodes drop every Thursday on YouTube. If you're signed up to Patreon, you get three shows a week. And we're gonna start doing a call in show, I think Saturday. Even if we do it live, it'll only be available for replay on Patreon. So we're going to do a call in show where the fans will be able to get interactive and I get to hear from y', all, hear some of y' all thought process and, and, and you know, some of what y' all going through, some of what's going on in the world and we can debate some of the topics, you know, we can flush out some of the ideas. This year, I also want to start a book club. I'm, I, I'm closing in on a building right now, 9,000 square feet in which I'm going to have a state of the art, it's up there, podcast headquarters. Right? There's going to be a lot of different things going on. So for sure, we're going to make sure that things are taking place in an orderly fashion. So thank you all, man, for your support and just keep supporting and make sure, man, if you're somebody that's in tune with the content I would like to hire from my community, I'm noticing that that's the best thing for us to do so. I like to hire from. Internally, from. From someone that's watching us or no, how we get out or just have been around us for the years that we've been in the game. I like to reach back and hire some of those individuals. So if you're out there, you have a skill set. Send an email to [e-mail] Send an email with a resume and some of your work, and we'll get you in touch with the people you need to be in touch with. Listen, we got a lot to talk about today. Where I want to start at is I ain't gonna lie to y', all, man. There's a situation going on with Corey Holcomb and Anton Daniels, and I want to examine it today. You know, everybody's been tagging me, and salute to everybody that every time something happened in culture, y' all tagging me, sending it to me, people on Twitter, people on Instagram, people on Tick Tock, y' all continue to do that, Keep us informed as a community so we can understand the direction we want to take the culture. But everybody's tagging me in this Anton Daniels and Corey Holcomb situation. Can't wait to hear your thoughts on it. So let's talk about it for people who don't know. Corey Holcomb is a comedian. Anton Daniels is a content creator. So this Anton guy supposedly has a lot of YouTube channels and a lot of views. Corey Holcomb is, you know, legendary comedian, has probably touched every city in America, every club in America at some point in his career. He's been doing it for quite some time. The interesting thing about what we're about to watch is Corey has this bravado about him that his audience has attached to the way that he talks and some of the things that he says, like his consequences for certain conversations. Right. There's consequences behind certain things dealing with him. And so he has presented himself in a way where his audience has received him as authentic. And what they believe authentic is, is once you draw a line, if somebody crossed the line, you gonna handle that like the old Vikings handled it. Yeah, that's all they really saying. You know what I mean? They want you to handle it like the old Vikings handle it, like the old warriors, the old cavemen. Yeah. If a disrespect, you get down where you mad at. And so people looked at Corey Holcomb with this level of admiration because he always said, wow. But, you know, it's so many online talking. Everybody can say wow, but if they don't think you stand on it, it don't weigh nothing. I was paying attention, and we're gonna get to my. My interview with Glasses Malone and that conversation, I was paying attention that some of the viewing audience, not my audience, but the viewing audience on Twitter and other things, their comprehension skills was kind of low because what they saw in that conversation, they didn't understand that me in that conversation was saying, let's not talk about what we gonna do to somebody. Let's not alert the authorities that there's possibly a threat taking place. Let's just go handle the business. And so standing on it for me is action. And so you always hit me down playing on camera unless they done emotionally triggered me. But if I'm in my right state of mind, you're gonna always hear me distance myself from any kind of behavior that puts this business in jeopardy. But what I've noticed after my conversation with Glasses and watching the field react to Aiden and Glasses and all these different things, because a lot of these dudes just be talking and ain't really these kind of individuals, I've noticed that the Internet and corporate America will take threats and certain things from certain people. Like, they'll let you come out and say, I stabbed this dude on my podcast. And they won't even pull your sponsors. They won't even boycott you. Nobody won't believe you. They just saying, we like his passion, but certain of us say that. And the sponsorship start to question. The business partners start to clutch their pearls because they believe that we'll weaponize our success like so many black people have done prior to us. I know there was a lot of people that's in business, and a lot of these guys by now thought that a lot of the podcasters that's still in position wouldn't be in position today, that they would make the same mistakes. I. I would notice when I first came in, they would say, he's just another Tax Stone. And I would tell Charlemagne and I would tell Tax. I would tell other people. What they trying to say is they believe I'm a crash out. They don't believe you can come from some outside of what they believe to be normal life, because they don't even know what I come from. They don't even really understand what I've come from and what I've encountered, been through and conquered. See, you boys have encountered some things. I've conquered some things. Yeah, you went through some things, got defeated and picked yourself back up. I've been involved in situations where I've been encountered with things and I've conquered them, got over them, kept it moving. And so a lot of these people don't know who I am, and they don't. They ain't really interested in who I am. They just want to hear my takes about whatever the hell is going on in culture. And I get that. But when we peel back the layers as it pertains to content, some of us can't use that violent language because people actually believe us. Picture me getting on my podcast and really sending a thread out, being who I am, being how I really move and my background, because that's the problem. You know, my first question be to some of these dudes is, when the last time you were been arrested? When they go to kicking that kind of shit? Because my whole thing is, if you ain't been arrested recently, you want me. See, a lot of people want you to believe they'll jump right off a bridge. Well, hold on. I don't really think that's how it work. Like, there's, There's. There's signs and tendencies in violent people, right? And even people that's been violent in their life, right, they may put it down and they may have been removed from acting that way, but in their past, at some point, you can see, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, that might be violent. Some of these guys are able to get on these podcasts with such violent rhetoric because don't nobody believe them. And that's crazy, but it's true. Corey Holcomb was someone that people actually believed. And that's why when he got into it with Anton Daniels and it unfolded this way, people were surprised. Let's take a look at what happened between Corey Holcomb and Anton Daniels. We gonna come back with some commentary. I'm gonna break down what I see happening in real time, and then we'll get to it. Pay attention.

[Corey Holcomb]

Shoot, you ain't nothing you can do about it.

[Anton Daniels]

God, this is so. This is so crazy.

[Corey Holcomb]

Do you think that's wrong, what I said?

[Anton Daniels]

So insane.

[Corey Holcomb]

Is that what what I said? I said, when the cops shoot you, ain't nothing you could do about it. Is that a lie?

[Anton Daniels]

This is so insane.

[Corey Holcomb]

But you didn't answer it.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Like I'm gonna answer your question.

[Corey Holcomb]

Okay, I'm answer your question.

[Anton Daniels]

It depends on the circumstance. And the interesting thing about it is this. The majority of the people, because you like to use a blanket statement, that's like me saying all black people are stupid.

[Corey Holcomb]

Well, you have. You said all white people stupid.

[Anton Daniels]

No, I'm talking about.

[Corey Holcomb]

You should say that one time because it's easy to say all black ass was stupid as an example. Say something about the white people.

[Anton Daniels]

No, no, no, no, no, you're not. I don't think you all the time.

[Corey Holcomb]

Well, I didn't hear you. You can you tell me.

[Anton Daniels]

Literally being the biggest enemy of the United States of America. That's the thing I say.

[Corey Holcomb]

Every single Caucasian female, the biggest.

[Anton Daniels]

Literally white liberal women are the worst thing that ever happened to this country.

[Corey Holcomb]

What about their men? But.

[Anton Daniels]

But we gonna get there. Because you. You keep trying to get me to qualify it by participating and joining in on the court.

[Corey Holcomb]

No, I think you're doing what's easy.

[Anton Daniels]

No, no, no, no, no. I'm doing what's real.

[Corey Holcomb]

I think you don't want to go.

[Anton Daniels]

Against you now, you know, because if.

[Corey Holcomb]

You go against them, it'd be some. Some video. Are you going against them? And when I say them, I'm talking about your boss.

[Anton Daniels]

The ease. I don't have a boss.

[Corey Holcomb]

It's all sucker.

[Anton Daniels]

It's going to war every day. It's just not physical anymore.

[Corey Holcomb]

Well, that's the problem. Physical wars. No, it's not until ready to jump it off.

[Anton Daniels]

It's not.

[Corey Holcomb]

We gonna always.

[Commentator/Analyst]

And so we gonna break this down on a totally different level now. I want you to pay attention to why the audience is surprised that Corey Holcomb didn't get violent in this interaction. I'mma speak to why he didn't. In my opinion, even though it was the right thing to do, I'm glad he didn't. I'm a speak to all of that. Right. But I'm also pick up on what's going on in real time. The first thing I want you guys to understand. Some of the rhetoric that we hear Corey Holcomb spew when he's on the Internet is why people have that image and outlook on him. Right? If you even listen to the conversation that he's having now, he's talking about, there's no need for conversation. Let's get to the wars. We need physical. Right? And so that kind of rhetoric boxes, you win. And so I tell young black boys, be careful with that rhetoric, not with the actions. If you own that, be on that, stand on that. Don't have no favorites be on that, but ain't no need to talk about it. You ever think the lion roar before he killed? Have you ever seen the lion roar before he make a kill? If anything, he want to be quiet. The roar might scare off dinner for the Family. So real lions in particular, when they hunting, are definitely trying to be as discreet as possible. And so I don't agree with the forward facing and the peacocking. And again, I understand you can be emotionally triggered, but because Corey puts off this bigger than life image is why people look at him like that. And I just wanted to point out, soon as we click in, we. Not even two minutes into the video and we're dealing with a scenario where he's already talking about. Forget the conversations. Let's get right to the war. We need war and people to be physical for people to know better, pay attention. Wars.

[Corey Holcomb]

No, it's not until motherfucker's ready to jump it off.

[Anton Daniels]

It's not.

[Corey Holcomb]

We gonna always be talking. But see, real gladiators don't talk. Real gladiators make it happen. And the gladiators, I ain't gonna lie, we are under control right now. We haven't rose up and did what needs to be done.

[Anton Daniels]

Who are you under control by?

[Corey Holcomb]

It ain't you under control by the people who will blow this motherfucker up? We ain't stupid. Who is.

[Anton Daniels]

Who is he? Because I want to know.

[Corey Holcomb]

Why do you think that I want to know. Was able to shoot?

[Anton Daniels]

I want to know who the. Hold on, hold on.

[Corey Holcomb]

Let's. Let's.

[Anton Daniels]

Let's be real. That woman.

[Corey Holcomb]

Well, that's, That's. That's what you would say to somebody you don't know or whatever.

[Anton Daniels]

No, no, no, no, no. I'm on the streets.

[Corey Holcomb]

I've been pulled over by the police who ain't on the street or the ICE agents.

[Anton Daniels]

You in la? I'm in Detroit. I'm in the blackest city in the United States of America. I can move anywhere I want to go. I choose to stay in the core of my city, and I choose to participate in my neighborhood. I choose to tap to the streets. I choose to put kids through college. I choose to interact and truly use my tax dollars.

[Commentator/Analyst]

And I also think it's interesting that as this unfolds, this gentleman, Anton Daniels, is going to be able to paint Corey Holcomb as the gentleman that says wild things. The gentleman that is very outlandish with his approach and behavior coming off of saying, fuck a lady that was killed by ICE agent.

[Anton Daniels]

I want to know who.

[Corey Holcomb]

Why do you think that ICE agent was able to shoot that?

[Anton Daniels]

I want to know who the.

[Corey Holcomb]

Hold on, hold on.

[Anton Daniels]

Let's. Let's be real.

[Commentator/Analyst]

That woman and rip to that young lady death, in my opinion of unarmed individuals. That's not involved in any kind of extracurricular activities. It's a very sad scenario. Deaf in general, in particular, in that way. It's just. It's very sad. So I just think it's interesting that he's. Again, I want y'.

[Corey Holcomb]

All.

[Commentator/Analyst]

That's why I always tell y', all, man, if y' all listen to me, we three years ahead of everybody. If y' all been listening to me, Every conversation we've been having two and three years ago, they are just now having. That's why I was telling Charlemagne it's time for us to update again, man. Me and Charlamagne were having a conversation two or three years ago that people are just now having. You understand a lot of the. We go listen to the. I'm talking about the audio. Cause a lot of y' all ain't on Patreon. You will never see the videos. Go listen to the audios. Episode 99 A hundred 101. Go listen to when I was in that bag and figuring out all this game as I was breaking into the industry. Go listen to all of that. But back to this, I just wanted to point out again, and I know I'm a stop stopping it so much, but I'm sure everybody has saw this. So at this point, we're reacting and breaking it down. But I wanted to point out the fact that Anton is about to paint Corey as the guy that says all this outlandish stuff as he's rolling off of saying something very outlandish in my opinion, like, fuck that lady that got killed by the ICE agent in Minnesota. Very interesting. Pay attention.

[Anton Daniels]

Ever it is and give jobs. I employ over 50 people. I put my money in my community with my people. So I choose to engage.

[Corey Holcomb]

So. So.

[Anton Daniels]

So when we talking about being in the streets, that don't count to me.

[Corey Holcomb]

I don't.

[Podcast Narrator]

I don't.

[Corey Holcomb]

I don't care. Well, that's what should count. I don't hear that shit out there in the streets where the people live that you helping. They could get pulled over and shot by a co. An investigation will be said. But here's the truth we know. If I believe you know this already, when the cops shoot you, ain't nothing you can do about it. Well, you have. You said all white people stupid.

[Anton Daniels]

No, I'm talking about.

[Corey Holcomb]

You should say that one time because it's easy to say all black ass was stupid. As an example. Say something about the white people.

[Anton Daniels]

No, no, no, no, no, you're not. I don't think you all the time.

[Corey Holcomb]

Well, I didn't hear you. Can you tell me?

[Anton Daniels]

Me, I talk about liberal white women literally being the biggest enemy of the United States of America.

[Corey Holcomb]

That's the thing.

[Anton Daniels]

I say every single Caucasian female the biggest. Literally white liberal women are the worst thing that ever happened to this country.

[Corey Holcomb]

What about their men? But.

[Anton Daniels]

But we gonna get there.

[Corey Holcomb]

We say that. But here's the truth.

[Anton Daniels]

I don't have a boss.

[Corey Holcomb]

It's a reason you go after black males or black people quicker than you will go after white males. What are white males responsible for in this country as the downfall?

[Anton Daniels]

Equal accountability. Smoke giver. I talk about everybody.

[Corey Holcomb]

I'm just saying I ain't heard you talk about white men. Well, you ain't been up here.

[Anton Daniels]

You ain't been listening. You ain't been listening.

[Corey Holcomb]

I've been listening to you.

[Anton Daniels]

You don't have the capacity to be able to listen because you too busy.

[Corey Holcomb]

No, no, no, no.

[Commentator/Analyst]

There was another shot, and if I'm not mistaken, I think we already passed it. Another shot from Anton Daniels is you talking loud, but you ain't saying nothing. So these are intellectual shots. Disrespect in the intellectual field, you understand? We look at these things like beneath us. Oh, you want to talk that way? So you want to be contemptuous, scornful, disrespectful. And so while Anton Daniels understands that these are shots, some of the low hanging fruit in the black community is sex play. That's why it was off putting when people looked on the west coast and saw brick baby and Adam 22 and their behavior. Some of it, even though they using it for content, because there's a boundary. There's a boundary set. And so if you're asking me, Anton had already started with a lot of reductionist talking points as it pertains to Corey. And that's prior to we getting to the sex play. Now it's about to blow up. But again, he said, yo, you doing a lot of talking, but you ain't really saying nothing. And you don't have the capacity to keep up. Nigga, your mental skills and comprehension is low. You understand me? If you asking me, that's where the problem came in at way before the sex play. Pay attention.

[Corey Holcomb]

You got nothing wrong. You too busy. My capacity, My capacity that you just criticized, that's an opinion. Here's the fact. Have you seen something about Caucasian males and how they destroy this nation? Well, what did I miss?

[Anton Daniels]

Let's. Let's slow down because you talking loud, but you're not saying a lot.

[Corey Holcomb]

No, you still talking around.

[Commentator/Analyst]

So there. There it is. When you study the art of debating and arguments, you know some of the styles and technique that is in play. When you hear someone start with a compliment and end with disrespect, a lot of times they'll do it the other way. Start with disrespect and end with a compliment. And that's what he done. Because that's how. That's what you call a soft landing. And depending on the intellectual level of the person you talking to, they don't know how to take that. It kind of confused them. It's like telling your old lady you really got fat over the last six months, but in that dress you look good. You get what I'm saying? So these are the games these niggas is playing. You don't have the capacity to keep up, which basically says that you're too dumb to understand the level of conversation we're having. But I'm a clean it up at the end with. Because you're too busy. Appeal to your ego a little bit maybe. You work so much, you ain't even read up on all of this. I ain't going to just charge, you know, you a busy guy, man. All that work you doing, you know you ain't. That why I'm saying, if you're asking me right when I view this, both of these guys kind of went out bad. Both of them went out bad. 2026, I'm gonna tell the truth. 2026, I'm gonna Tell the truth. Both of these boys went out bad. And I'm explaining to you why. But I just wanted to set a precedent and let you guys know. Earmark. Before we even get to the sex play and understand that there was already levels of aggression. There was already violative kind of language being used by Anton. But pay attention to when it blows up.

[Corey Holcomb]

What did the Caucasian male do to America to bring it down?

[Anton Daniels]

I'm not getting into that.

[Corey Holcomb]

You dancing around it. And that's why I lose respect for you when you start dancing and kissing Caucasian males ass.

[Anton Daniels]

But I don't.

[Corey Holcomb]

Don't do that in front of me because I'm not an ass kisser of nobody.

[Anton Daniels]

Yes, you are. You suck the dick of these people right now. You. You doing the easy shit. What you do. Let me tell you what you.

[Commentator/Analyst]

I absolutely love that the cameraman caught his face when he said that. Dick.

[Corey Holcomb]

I'm not an ass kisser of nobody.

[Anton Daniels]

Yes, you are.

[Commentator/Analyst]

W to the cameraman for catching his face when he first said something about Dick to him. And so the conversation online is, who was wrong in this moment? If you didn't earmark the first two times where Anton Daniels kind of undercut Corey Holcomb intellectually and told him that he's talking loud, that ain't saying nothing, and that he does not have the capacity to keep up, then you think the first encounter of disrespect is when Corey Holcomb said, you kiss white man's ass. You still took it into a weird place when you say that. In the black community, we don't play the dick jokes. As you get older, you look at some of this shit like petty shit, but you know, it's a contract. It's an unnegotiated contract. In the black community, certain dick jokes, shit go platinum. And that's unfortunate because niggas can trick you right out your spot. But sometimes you gotta go. Sometimes it just is what it is. My I gotta go. Like if I've been through some of the shit some of these boys been through, I'm saying ain't no more content, ain't no more rapping, ain't no more none, man. It's my life dedicated to, man, is the. Is that. It's unfortunate, but it's dead. It's a contract. So I'm saying there's a contract in the black community as it pertains to some of these sex, playing, dick jokes. But this is where I looked at it and I said, all right, now we about to see some action. Because you think about disrespect as it pertains to some on these cameras. And if you got this bravado and you got this certain kind of character, you gotta go. It's unfortunate, but you just gotta go. It just is what it is. You just gotta go. So I ain't playing that kind of game with you niggas. I'm staying away from you niggas. Catch me somewhere behind the scenes. We can get them up at any moment, any one of you niggas that really want it. But I don't have no problems with nobody, so I don't worry about that. But anytime that any one of you niggas think I want that, you can get that on on everything. I love one of you niggas that's worried of it. Some of you niggas better bow down to some greater than you kissing Caucasian males ass.

[Anton Daniels]

But I don't.

[Corey Holcomb]

Don't do that in front of me, because I'm not an ass kisser of nobody.

[Anton Daniels]

Yes, you are. You Suck the dick of people right now.

[Commentator/Analyst]

And so now my new question is, is that intentional? Is it intentional? I don't think it's intentional. I think that he was just disconnected from that contract that's in place. And the reason I say that is is because when you from Detroit and you from the streets of Detroit, I don't know none of them niggas that's gonna get into it with you and say, I'm from Detroit. You gonna be able to tell by how they get out, how they dress, how they look, whether they players, if they getting some money, what type they is, that they from Detroit. Ain't no getting into it and trying to pull from the equity of Detroit. And I say that respectfully to Anton. This ain't even about you. This is about people that do that. In general. I spoke about some of the New Orleans individuals that we ran into that was doing that in the early days because New Orleans had a very, very interesting reputation. And my best friends is from. One of my best friends is from New Orleans. So, you know I got a lot of love down there. So I know a lot of good from down there. But I'm just saying, first thing, want to let you know, and I'm from Chicago, I'm from New. I'm from it. Like, bro, that don't matter. You'll never hear me say where I'm from. Cause it don't matter. I' ma show you where I'm at with it. Yeah, I ain't gonna don't matter where I'm from. I'm gonna show you right here where I'm at with it. And I'm. I'm taking the money back to where I'm from. Don't you worry about it. If anybody worried, the money going right back to where I'm from every time. But it felt like the contract that's in place wasn't acknowledged by this gentleman. And then they got into this weird place where sex play was involved. This next step, if you're asking me, exposed Corey to his audience in a way that they were not prepared for. Pay attention.

[Anton Daniels]

You. You doing the easy shit. What you do? Let me tell you what you do.

[Corey Holcomb]

Let me tell you something, homie.

[Anton Daniels]

I ain't gonna tell you.

[Corey Holcomb]

I don't see you. Yeah, you do. Yeah, you do.

[Anton Daniels]

So fix you're doing it right now.

[Corey Holcomb]

I don't suck you doing it right now, homie. Believe me when I tell you I don't do that. I don't do that.

[Anton Daniels]

Listen, listen.

[Corey Holcomb]

So don't come at me with no dick sucking.

[Anton Daniels]

I'mma give you the same energy you give me.

[Corey Holcomb]

Homie. I don't do no. I don't do no dick sucking shit. I'm a man. I don't do no dick.

[Commentator/Analyst]

All right, let me point out a few things that nobody else is really pointing out. If you're asking me or I haven't saw any videos. When Corey Holcomb walks up on this gentleman with the ad shirt on, he's supposed to create distance. You don't let no man get that close to you, Especially if he talking half power. He don't went high pitch, you understand? You don't let a man going high pitch get that close. First thing, people like me. Cause I know I'm. I'm someone that I have that aggressive state in me that once I'm. If I get there, it's over with. So I know the first thing I'm gonna do. Back up my boy. Don't be that close up on me. Don't get all in my face and all that. Now, the first thing I saw Anton do was kind of lean away and look away. Now I get it. He's regrouping. Because this is a serious situation. You in another city in his studio. You in another man's studio. You don't know what you may encounter. It's a couple dudes over here in the background. You got your one little security guard you didn't hide from. Little local security guard. Yeah, man, come on, man. This can get ugly in here. You know, you in another man's spot on his location. You don't know how this can turn out. This can get ugly. It can get ugly quick. And so Anton had to regroup and understand, I think in his mind, this content. If he don't do something in the next 20 seconds, this is content. Because when he got that close, what he's doing is. And this is what I tell me and I tell people all the time, you. You got to be careful when you make these agreements, because break the agreement and you gotta move on it. You make these contracts, don't agree with the. They break it, you gotta move on it. I always tell this. Now, what he's saying is, see, there's two. There's two different things happening. His contract to Anton Daniels is. Don't say that dick sucking again to me. What the Internet is understanding is you ain't putting no contract on disrespect. You only put a contract on the dick sucking shit. So now they're thinking that disrespect is supposed to trigger the same result as that dick sucking shit. Because that dick sucking shit ultimately is disrespect. So if you ain't moving on disrespect as a whole, why are you so moving on? The dick sucking shit is what the Internet is trying to understand. Now what I'm telling you is, is that when he gets that close, the first thing, someone who is used to fighting and squabbling, and they gonna create distance. You don't get that close to me, you can stab me. I was raised like that and I done things to people. So I know you don't let nobody get that close to you. You create some distance, you don't get this close to me. Now pay attention to what happens. Again, remember, his agreement is don't say that dick sucking again. But there should be. If you're asking me a contract on disrespect as a whole, because you done already crossed the line. Now either pipe down or get beat on. Yeah. Ain't but two options. Now you trying to create a third option, which is talk back. Ain't no back talk. Pipe down or get beat on. Yeah, man, can't nobody with big glasses talk to me like that. Now I'm just playing. Pay attention.

[Anton Daniels]

I don't give a about nothing.

[Corey Holcomb]

Well, I tell you what, watch that dick sucking. Cause that'll go bad.

[Anton Daniels]

Call it what you want.

[Corey Holcomb]

I don't do no dick sucking.

[Anton Daniels]

I say a lot of that. I don't with either.

[Corey Holcomb]

Okay, but. But that. That gay. Oh, you give a about what you. Hey, homie. All right, I tell you what, right here. Put no dick sucking. Don't put no dick sucking on. I'm from Detroit. Say I suck a dick again.

[Anton Daniels]

I'm right here, right now.

[Commentator/Analyst]

He wouldn't say it, but he also ain't bowing down. And the Internet really doesn't understand the encounter. If you asking me from a hole, right? At least the people that speak it about it, I don't see them representing what's really going on. In my opinion. If you're asking me, this energy right here. Up until this point, he's still not sure if this gonna get violent. You gotta remember this dude is just in his face for the last 20 seconds. So he don't know whether or not this really finna suck him out. So he's trying to find ways to bail. If you're asking me, he ain't got the energy of you and back up off me before he get. He don't got that kind of energy. He Trying to.

[Corey Holcomb]

He.

[Commentator/Analyst]

He trying to bail, which is the right thing to do, to have that. That'll have a conversation. But he's legitimately trying to bail. Pay attention to what he's saying.

[Corey Holcomb]

I'm right here, right now, all right?

[Anton Daniels]

I'm respecting.

[Corey Holcomb]

Dance around it. Dance around it. I don't do no dick sucking.

[Anton Daniels]

I'm gonna respect you because it's your platform. And I flew out here to have a conversation.

[Corey Holcomb]

We good.

[Anton Daniels]

But you messing up on me.

[Corey Holcomb]

I did already.

[Anton Daniels]

I don't need this. Put the microphone right down right now. I'm going up back.

[Corey Holcomb]

I don't give a. Sir, no sir, homie. You just running your mouth.

[Anton Daniels]

I'm not running my mouth.

[Commentator/Analyst]

And I think this is where he flipped the table on Corey because he pulled out a mean bluff card. Cause I don't think he would really finna take that card. I think he has that security there. He knows the security. Probably gonna step in. Not your security. Ain't gonna just let you take a fade. In another city at a studio, man, them might pack you out. This shit might turn to a gun battle. Like, I think it was all bluffing. Both of these niggas were bluffing. But he flipped the table on Corey right here. When he said, we can go out back, Corey supposed to accepted that. Now the situation gets sticky because in an alternate universe, if it was in my studio, one of my homeboys would be right now creeping towards the security. Yeah, like he watching what's going on. He ain't really paying attention, but he really creeping towards your security as he's going down. You understand me? Creeping towards the security as it's going down. Two, three of my guys, they creeping toward the security. You understand? Now pay attention.

[Corey Holcomb]

For the Internet. You're doing it for the Internet.

[Anton Daniels]

Now if you want to save your time. No, no, hold on, hold on.

[Corey Holcomb]

If you want to show you I ain't doing it for the Internet, don't disrespect me like that.

[Commentator/Analyst]

And I'm gonna be honest with you. When he said you just doing this for the Internet, he done flipped the table. Now what the Internet is calling is supposed to go on right now. And I ain't gonna lie. Some of my guys that I know, some of the scenarios I'm familiar with, his security would already been knocked out by now. Done crib him on the security, hit him with a crowbar, bing, put him to bed. Ain't gonna hurt him, like try to kill him or nothing. But he gotta go to sleep because you making me think he got an AR15. You don't raise the vibration in here. We gotta put dude down. Cause we know he probably got a gun or something. The way you talking, he ain't scared to use it. Cat, I don't believe you got no gun and you finna do nothing. So this dude you got with you, you putting him in danger. If I'm one of them goon, I'm creeping over there to him. He. He'll look over. I got that in the. I had that in the sleeper hole. He'll look over, I had that in the Ted DiBiase's sleeper hole. Holding him like this right here. Cross face, chicken wing. He be sleeping. And then I let him go. And then we'll ask Anton. You still talking like that? Yeah. You ain't got no security no more. You still talking like that? I'm. Put your security down. You still talking like that. What's dangerous about this for Corey Holcomb? In his image is he's always been someone that talks that high power. So his audience is saying, you gotta hit him. He gotta get taught a lesson. You know, they looking at him like a well to do guy. He gotta get taught a lesson from the big gorilla gladiator. This how his audience looking at it. Cause he didn't move on it. It was a bad play. Now, when he got that close to him and that still said we can go outside. That still said, you ain't talking about. I ain't studying. That you talking about. He found clever ways to try to bail out. But few encounters right here. He lost faith in Corey that he'll do anything. And I truly believe that. Pay attention.

[Anton Daniels]

Say, Anton, don't disrespect me like that. I'll respect you, but don't boss up on me because you said a lot of to me today that I don't with either. But I let that shit ride because you don't know me. You don't know me. So I'm gonna extend the same respect to you. You called me out of my name. You said some wild shit. Especially with regard to how would it.

[Corey Holcomb]

Call this nigga out?

[Anton Daniels]

His nigga. I'm telling you that you did. You can't tell me how.

[Corey Holcomb]

I got a question from bro.

[Anton Daniels]

Okay, no, no, no, no. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold.

[Corey Holcomb]

On, hold on one second. Hold on. We just getting loud. I ain't getting loud.

[Anton Daniels]

Then don't switch seats.

[Corey Holcomb]

No, this my show. This my show. Cool.

[Anton Daniels]

But I take that as a threat.

[Corey Holcomb]

Okay, well, it. It is a threat. If you calling me dick sucking suck, my man.

[Anton Daniels]

What you talking about?

[Corey Holcomb]

I don't dick suck.

[Anton Daniels]

If you want to get back to the conversation, ain't because you ain't gonna do cause you're not gonna do come.

[Corey Holcomb]

To me with that dick sucking again. You're not gonna come to me with say I suck dick again.

[Anton Daniels]

We can go back right now. We going back right now.

[Corey Holcomb]

I'm with it. I bet you won't say that.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Yeah, I ain't gonna lie right there. He looked in his eyes and said, oh, this might be the moldy snap. He a smart. This Anton, this Anton a savage swift. Now he looked in that boy eyes, that boy eyes told him he might actually swing. So he got up and got out of harm's way. Yeah, don't act like you ain't get out of harm's way. I seen you get out of harm's way. But that's the right thing to do. You looked in his eyes. But again, this is why I think he's losing faith. Every 10 or 15 seconds, as the seconds go by, he's losing more and more faith that some actually can happen. Now for people unaware, his co host, Corey Holmes co host is whispering something in his ear. I was told she was whispering to him, you've already been sued. This dude is trying to sue you. That's what I was told. She was whispering.

[Corey Holcomb]

I got money for all this. Whatever.

[Anton Daniels]

I got money too. Don't nobody give a about that.

[Commentator/Analyst]

No, it's just not respect.

[Corey Holcomb]

I ain't falling for that. I ain't up, darling.

[Anton Daniels]

Get out the way ways, of course.

[Corey Holcomb]

Don'T get in the way of two. Let me tell you something, homie. I ain't got to go out back right now. Cause we got to go back to lead this. But I'm saying that dick sucking watch that. That's all I'm saying. And if I don't say it how.

[Anton Daniels]

You like it, if you want to get back to the conversation, we get.

[Corey Holcomb]

Back to the conversation. But just know I'm not.

[Anton Daniels]

I'm not listening. I'm not listening. None of that. If you want to get back to the conversation.

[Corey Holcomb]

As long as you know, bro, you notice you not.

[Anton Daniels]

You not that tough.

[Corey Holcomb]

Straight. Ain't nobody saying I'm sucking dick no more. Everything straight. For sure. For sure. I got a question for bro though, and I'mma respect him on that.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Yes, sir.

[Corey Holcomb]

Yes, sir. He.

[Anton Daniels]

He said what he said.

[Commentator/Analyst]

So I'mma respect him on that. Yes, sir.

[Anton Daniels]

Yes, sir.

[Corey Holcomb]

So question.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Given that black people.

[Corey Holcomb]

Given that Black people are on the democratic plantation. What do you say about the use of Christianity to make slaves out of black people?

[Anton Daniels]

And what, today's time or historically?

[Corey Holcomb]

Historically, yeah, absolutely.

[Anton Daniels]

It was used in a negative way, but anything could be used in a positive and negative way. You can. You can weaponize literally anything. Corporate America, for example, you can use the Internet in order to push out propaganda, or you can use it to communicate effectively with the people. You can use. You can use money to manipulate people, or you can use it to help people. And so you can't just say that Christianity itself is used Muslim. The Quran is used in a negative way in order to control people. So. So it depends on the person. And that's why we evaluate the person based off of their fruits instead of evaluating them based off of Christianity itself. Because everybody, everybody that calls himself a Christian is not a Christian 100%.

[Corey Holcomb]

So I agree that the teachings of Jesus are pure. However, in the hands of Caucasian white.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Males, that's not true. Because I know, like, to be honest, Corey, like, I don't know what the fuck your co host is doing. Like, after a heated moment, they go into this. Out of everything we can talk about. Look at Corey. Can't even adjust himself. Like, he's wondering, like, what conversation is you niggas having? Like, is this your pivot? This is trash. Like, I ain't gonna lie. The pivot is trash. The pivot that they just did from that last subject and what just happened to this is unsettling. This isn't going away. You did not address the elephant in the room. That's what I try to tell people. At some point, you got to get an elephant in the room, some peanuts.

[Corey Holcomb]

The teachings of Jesus.

[Anton Daniels]

And I know some bad Caucasian white men.

[Corey Holcomb]

Okay, okay, so look, check this out. This is what I Listen.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Everything respectful.

[Corey Holcomb]

Listen, listen, listen. This is what I'm saying. I don't believe you knew what you was doing when you said something about dick sucking, brother. I apologize, okay? Hey, bro, I appreciate that.

[Commentator/Analyst]

I apologize.

[Corey Holcomb]

I appreciate that. Because this ain't no show. The last thing I want to do is get into it with you physically, but I have a switch. I do, too, when I'm a man just like you. I respect your switch. I respect your switch.

[Anton Daniels]

I respect you, too.

[Corey Holcomb]

Okay, good. I'm glad, brother. You're good. It ain't no fake shit right here.

[Anton Daniels]

Absolutely. I'm with it.

[Corey Holcomb]

We straight. I respect your switch, brother. And I'm.

[Commentator/Analyst]

I'm also watching Anton Daniel's eyes just pay attention to his Eyes.

[Corey Holcomb]

A lot of people don't know the way I was brought up. You can't step to men like. Like that. So I'm not, I'm not checking you. I'm just trying to let you know we good that when, when we talk to each other a certain way, like, if dick sucking is brought up, that's just like motherfucking pissing on my shoes. So I'm saying, like, I could get back. I could get back straight. I could get back straight. We just. I didn't listen. When I listen, it wasn't phony. Listen, Anton, my mind is set up when people do things like throw the. I call it back dory. On my show, when people throw that at you, it's a set off.

[Anton Daniels]

You pick and choose what's disrespectful because you applying it to you, it's other people out there that don't take that shit.

[Corey Holcomb]

Okay, well, I'm glad you said that. So listen to me.

[Anton Daniels]

But, but, but hold on, hold on to me. But I get it because you don't know me and I don't know you. So you don't know what I look at is disrespectful. And the reason that that is is because the only thing that set me off is if somebody make it seem like they ready to do something, then I'm like, okay, well, it's all hands up the conversation.

[Corey Holcomb]

Well, how about this? People may be ready to do something for whatever reason they want to be ready to do something. But what I'm saying to you is, you know, in this world, they are trying to normalize men in dresses. They trying to normalize a woman wearing a thong in front of a church gathering or whatever, right? And you know what I'm saying. I could handle whatever is happening out there, but I'm saying, like, I'm still standing on this. I'm standing on this. If a man walking up to me with some homosexual talk, like, I could take. I said this before. I could take a meeting at a brother like Tyler Perry's house. Because I know what's gonna happen if it go bad. The house gonna get tore up. I ain't saying that to act like I'm tough. I feel you. There's certain things that we as men cannot say to each other without clashing. And it is my opinion with niggas that I know, and where I'm from, if I say to one of my homies, man, suck a dick, everybody will get quiet that we know. And they'll be like, what is that. What is that? Cause it's like that's their homosexual talk. So what I'm saying is, you know what I'm saying, If it's one way to get a brother like me, I know brothers who are preachers that would put their religion down for that right there. That's all I'm saying. Black man.

[Anton Daniels]

Listen, listen, listen. That's what. That's what you. Where you at. So I'm gonna respect that.

[Corey Holcomb]

Thank you, brother. I don't want no drama. That's why I don't want no drama, man. My life. My life is good. Mine's just too. I believe you. My life is good. I'm with you.

[Anton Daniels]

If somebody says that to you, like, what. What is it in you that gets bothered by a switch?

[Corey Holcomb]

Okay, so listen to me. Manhood is all we got left. You really got to understand this. Just give me a second to land on this.

[Anton Daniels]

I'm with you. I'm listening.

[Corey Holcomb]

If we don't have our manhood, we ain't got nothing. So when a man walk up to you and say something flirtatious to you, when a man walk up to you and say something where he's challenging your manhood and things like that, trust me, I don't care how savage it may seem. When you dealing with a man, you can set a man off if you in his face and you saying things that are not. I'm not talking about somebody just saying anything. I'm talking about there are certain things, like I can't walk up to a man walking down the street with his wife, Anton, and say, man, your thick. You can't disrespect men face to face. You can do it online because it's easy to do it online.

[Anton Daniels]

Nope. See, that's why we disagree.

[Corey Holcomb]

Okay, I want to hear this.

[Anton Daniels]

That's what we disagree. Because you got to keep the same energy across the board. You can't pick and choose when you can disrespect somebody. And when you can't disrespect somebody and then pick and choose when you're going to react to somebody disrespecting you. You wrong, bro. You, you wrong as two left shoes. You're wrong, bro. You, you.

[Corey Holcomb]

I with you. I with nobody finna stand in front of my face and talk to me like they on my level when it comes to homosexuality. Like that will. That'll start a war. That'll start.

[Anton Daniels]

We can agree to disagree. I think you're wrong, bro. I think I. I personally, I'm telling you directly, you're hypocritical.

[Corey Holcomb]

Okay, well, you can say that I don't think I'm in that argument with you now. But what I am saying to you, Anton, is when you are talking to men face to face, trust me when I tell you this, man. It's different than online face to face.

[Anton Daniels]

Person in real life as I am online, I'm going to tell you that straight up. Anybody? Listen, I go city to city. I'm not an online bro. Like, I create content online, but I really am out in every single city. I didn't visit it. Almost every single state. I have real meetups in real life. I shake hands, I kick it with people in real life, and I go out there and kick it with the people. I'm not different online than I am in real life.

[Corey Holcomb]

When men stand between each other, there is energy that is being transferred. And trust me, when men disrespect each other face to face can die.

[Anton Daniels]

I agree. You asked me for the feedback. I didn't volunteer it. You forced me.

[Corey Holcomb]

I said, you know what?

[Commentator/Analyst]

I'm.

[Anton Daniels]

No, I don't want to do that. Then you said, okay, well, Anton, go ahead and keep on naming names and let's get to it.

[Corey Holcomb]

Okay, well, let's get.

[Anton Daniels]

Let's get to it then, if that's what you want to do.

[Corey Holcomb]

How about this? How about this?

[Commentator/Analyst]

Let me.

[Corey Holcomb]

Can I respond?

[Anton Daniels]

Is real chill. And she. And she not going to cause no friction. And Craig is happy to be here.

[Corey Holcomb]

Okay, so can I say something about that? But see, you don't cut me off.

[Anton Daniels]

I don't give a fuck because I'm rich too, so I'm cool. I got my own movement. I got my own on my own motion. So I can tell you the truth. And I think that you also surround yourself with somebody with people that will not challenge you because you big dog to them you be you big bro.

[Corey Holcomb]

Okay, so let me say this. Since you brought up Darlene and Craig, let me bring.

[Anton Daniels]

Let me.

[Corey Holcomb]

You tell. Let me say this. Whenever I see a woman with a man, most of the time, if it ain't your wife, I already say to myself, what is this? Why is this motherfucker in the streets with you? That's how I feel about life. So I'm saying, like, that might be a prejudice that I have, I can admit. If a woman is in the streets with a man, fuck is this why?

[Anton Daniels]

Why do you care about that? Why is that meaningful to you?

[Corey Holcomb]

No, it's not that I care at all because it's not my business. But I'm saying, like, if a man stepped to me with a woman, and it ain't his wife, all I do is say to myself, you mean, like, checking you?

[Anton Daniels]

Not.

[Corey Holcomb]

Not checking me, brother. I'm saying, like, if a man has a woman with him, okay? And you know what I'm saying, it's not his wife. I don't know what the that is, and I don't want nothing to do with it. That's all across the board. As I've gotten older and wiser. Like, if a man. If a man got a woman with him and he say, hey, hold on, man, how you doing? This is my lady. So and so. So and so makes my. It makes me say, okay, this is his lady. It ain't been explained. I'm like, hold on. What the. Is this like a. Especially if it's imposed in any way. That's what I'm saying, G. And I know you know what I'm talking about. Cause you ain't gonna act like you ain't smart. You smart than a motherfucker.

[Anton Daniels]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Well, if some.

[Anton Daniels]

Wow.

[Corey Holcomb]

If somebody introduces you, if somebody took the talk.

[Anton Daniels]

I don't know what he. If somebody actually takes. Walks in and takes the time to introduce you to something that's being imposed.

[Corey Holcomb]

On, I'm like, oh, there's people in the chat say, what is Corey talking about? All the uninitiated don't know what I'm talking about. I'm uninitiated, especially if I know that person. That's how I believe it.

[Anton Daniels]

This is what I know. This is what I am. I admit that I am a C student.

[Corey Holcomb]

Believe me. You said it.

[Anton Daniels]

I'm still laughing.

[Corey Holcomb]

Phil's silly. He's still really trying to. Look, it was an intense moment in here, Anton, and we trying to make it where it is professional. We trying to make it where it ain't what everybody said might be or whatever the. Because I ain't with all that. I ain't got to go to war with no man who visited our show and probably didn't understand one thing, how I was thinking. And I probably didn't understand one thing, how he was thinking.

[Anton Daniels]

Not gonna have me back on the show, y'. All.

[Corey Holcomb]

If I wasn't gonna have you back on the show, I wouldn't shook your hand. I hope you believe that. When I caught myself, I was like.

[Anton Daniels]

You know what I'm doing right now? I'm putting pressure on him to get me back on the show.

[Corey Holcomb]

But it ain't working.

[Anton Daniels]

By saying that he's not going to.

[Corey Holcomb]

Because it ain't gonna work like that.

[Anton Daniels]

But I'm saying, don't like this, though. You don't like this.

[Corey Holcomb]

Why are you talking to that man over there?

[Commentator/Analyst]

So I need people to understand where we are. As it pertains to the timeline at this particular point, Anton Daniels has lost all faith that Corey Holcomb is willing to get aggressive and actually get violent with him on set. Again, if I rewind you back to that first 30 seconds when he first got in his face and he said, say something else again, that two or three minute time lapse, Anton Daniels feared that at some point this would get physical. Not that he's not willing to get physical, but he believed it in that moment. We are now 5, 10, 15, 20 minutes removed from that interaction. And you see a man who is now in his bag and he's starting to talk jazzy and talk to your other people and let you know, I may know what you talking about and act like I don't know what you talking about. Don't even play with me like that loved one. If you know what I'm talking about. Say you know what I'm talking about. We don't got time to play these games. But you dealing with a man that's now back in his bag and he feels like, oh, this nigga just be talking. You don't let him down. You didn't actually let him down. As it pertains to how he felt about this nigga might get active, he don't believe it no more. And how I'm going to prove that to you is he's going to reverse right back to the disrespect. If he believed when he got that close that it was this close to firecrackers going off, he would do everything in his power to avoid another interaction of that magnitude. But guess what, ladies and gentlemen, he did the opposite. Pay attention because.

[Anton Daniels]

Because I gotta talk to Phil. I'm talking to Corey through Phil. You know what I'm saying? If you know, you know, here's the thing.

[Corey Holcomb]

Them, the games, when niggas get into fights, I'm telling you, this is how I jump off.

[Anton Daniels]

Go ahead, Cory. Not gonna have me back on the show because Corey is not having fun right now. This is Corey. This is gonna be one of Corey's best shows, but he's not having fun right now. And Corey seems to be. Seems to be a feeler. I'm more of a results driven guy. Corey seems to be the type of person that goes off of how he feels.

[Corey Holcomb]

If you notice, I'm doing a lot of explaining to you about how the line can get crossed, but you're doing a lot of telling me what I am. I think that's homosexual behavior.

[Anton Daniels]

I said, Corey, I seems to be meaning that I'm leaving open a door to get corrected. I want him to correct me if I'm wrong. But I still want the freedom to be able to get my opinion. So you don't want me to get my.

[Corey Holcomb]

You can have a freedom, brother. What, I look like trying to take freedom from you?

[Anton Daniels]

No, no, no. I'm starting to feel some type of way, bro. Because why is everything homosexual to you?

[Corey Holcomb]

Well, this is what I'm saying.

[Anton Daniels]

Like conversation turn into homosexuality again.

[Corey Holcomb]

Okay, I'm gonna let you land. I'm gonna let you land because I don't want. I don't want to talk over you.

[Anton Daniels]

I'm trying to understand it. Why is everything gay?

[Corey Holcomb]

I can explain it. I can explain it.

[Anton Daniels]

Go ahead.

[Corey Holcomb]

Maybe. Look, I'm not saying. Okay, I'm not saying that you gay. But what I'm saying is if you looking at another man and you say you talking to me through another man, if I'm a man, I'm say, well, I'm right here.

[Anton Daniels]

Yeah, but you're not getting it.

[Corey Holcomb]

You still talk about me, homie. This is a gay conversation.

[Anton Daniels]

It's not.

[Corey Holcomb]

I don't never.

[Anton Daniels]

I don't.

[Corey Holcomb]

I don't. I. When you talking to men who play in riddles and stuff like that, I'm.

[Anton Daniels]

Telling you, that's talking to riddles.

[Corey Holcomb]

You ain't never been to jail, have you?

[Anton Daniels]

Hell, no, I never been to jail.

[Corey Holcomb]

I could tell. I could tell you been in jail. Nope. Nope.

[Anton Daniels]

So what? What the fuck that mean then?

[Corey Holcomb]

I'm just saying, like, if you went to jail, they would have to start you over from scratch. What would they do to you? The people who.

[Anton Daniels]

I would be the tough one.

[Corey Holcomb]

No, no, no. Just let me. Let me land with this.

[Anton Daniels]

The people from a jail perspective. Nigga, I'm not a jail bird. I'm never going to jail.

[Corey Holcomb]

I see. Well, you can't say what you'll never do.

[Anton Daniels]

But I'm never going to jail, bro.

[Corey Holcomb]

Okay?

[Anton Daniels]

I don't even have any. I don't even like that type of energy.

[Corey Holcomb]

I'm just trying to make a point. I'm just trying to make a point that time. What I'm saying is I have been around enough people who have been institutionalized Where I know how to carry myself around men who not finna play with you. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.

[Anton Daniels]

I don't hang around niggas that been to jail. So I saw for it that way. The way you saw for it is a little bit different than the way I saw for it.

[Corey Holcomb]

Okay? I don't believe that you tried to disrespect me now that I've been talking to you. I don't believe that. I believe that you are the way you are. I am the way I am. And it can clash if people are not educated on how to be around each other, because men can go to war. Misunderstanding.

[Anton Daniels]

He's throwing an intellectual shot right now.

[Corey Holcomb]

What am I doing?

[Anton Daniels]

So without saying it, he's basically saying, oh, you from a different space. So you don't get the way that.

[Corey Holcomb]

We move over here, over here, or anywhere in the United States of America. And that's not a black thing.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Again, he chasing it. If a man fear for his life, if a man feared that things could have got physical in a way that you clearly out doubled your one security guard. And that's another thing. A lot of y' all got a little too much faith in y' all wanting to security. Like, I don't know where this shit coming from. I don't come from this era where 1 and 2 security make you feel like you moving like the president. You got a couple niggas with you, that's cool. But, yo, bro, like, relax on thinking 1 and 2 security is like you moving with the Navy. You understand? At this particular point, Anton is chasing the smoke. If you're asking me what I believe happened right here, he's lost all faith that this thing can get physical. And he's about to raise the temperature again, and let's see where it goes.

[Anton Daniels]

Maybe. Maybe you walked into something that you wasn't expecting.

[Corey Holcomb]

I don't go.

[Commentator/Analyst]

I don't know.

[Anton Daniels]

Maybe. Maybe I knew what you was going to do before you did it.

[Corey Holcomb]

Maybe. But I tell you what, I tell you what, that's a dangerous game to play, especially if you got a life that you live in. Because I'm telling you, man, it's a lot of people in the cemetery that didn't know it was going to happen like that, that fast. That's. That's why out here, I try to walk under the cold. There's a cold out here.

[Anton Daniels]

No, you don't. And that's why I said.

[Corey Holcomb]

You said I don't walk in the coat.

[Anton Daniels]

No, you're hypocritical. I told you that to your face.

[Corey Holcomb]

The whole world a hypocrite. But what are you talking about?

[Anton Daniels]

You're a hypocrite. You're a hypocrite when it comes damn.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Corey, you don't let him break the fourth wall. If that nigga believe you would have stomped him out. He wouldn't even be talking like this right here. He wouldn't be talking like this. You hypocritical this that. He'll be trying to have a pleasant conversation. That boy got bravado on his breath, man. The boy got bravado on his breath, man. You pulled the beat it, man. It's unfortunate. That's why I'm trying to tell men about some bro. He lost all faith in Corey. And the problem is you can't draw a line like that and not move. For example, if me and some arguing and I say, man, the next in this say anything, I'm putting him to be and a say something. And you don't found him. You just lost all your superpowers. For everybody that believed it before that, you lost all your superpowers. That's why they trick you niggas into the jail cells. Because they use the fact that you got to go against you. You got to go, but you ain't got to go right now. And you ain't got to go on camera. And damn sure you ain't got to let them know you going. See, this new generation, they hope to let you know they going. So they don't never got to go. A lot of y' all get scared. If a let you know he coming, I come knock you off, man.

[Corey Holcomb]

My fault.

[Commentator/Analyst]

It ain't that serious. You ain't never seen him knock nothing off. For all you know, everybody around him killers and he a hoe. You don't never see him by itself. He don't got no faith in his hands or none. But when you draw them kind of lines as a man, you gotta move on them. It's just like the agreements that we have with NATO and some of the geopolitics that's in place like the world politics, where we'll be like, yo, if you touch that land over there, it's a violation to America. And we coming. We ain't got to say it no more. Matter of fact, we really don't gotta say it. If you see us doing business with them, that mean as alliance. That means don't with this land over here. See, power is felt that's why the more you talk, the less is powerful. Power is felt, not heard is felt. You just cannot draw a line like this and fall back on it. Pay attention.

[Anton Daniels]

Believe when it comes to specifically you moving by a code.

[Corey Holcomb]

I don't understand what you're saying because.

[Anton Daniels]

You think that you can say what you want to say when you want to say it, and that people are supposed to respect your. Respect the way that you move. But I don't think that you move the way that you're supposed to.

[Corey Holcomb]

Anyway, I want this thing to be studied because here's the truth. Brother Anton is talking about everybody else but himself and white men. This is a fact. I like.

[Anton Daniels]

I like this chat. Let me tell y'.

[Corey Holcomb]

All. He's why I like everything but himself. No, no, white men.

[Anton Daniels]

No.

[Corey Holcomb]

We listen.

[Anton Daniels]

I told you. I want to come back and have a full conversation about it. Or we could talk about it right now. I ain't got nothing better to do.

[Corey Holcomb]

Study to study. This episode. Shout out to the ain't.

[Anton Daniels]

I'm not gonna on nobody.

[Corey Holcomb]

On black people. You it on. I should.

[Anton Daniels]

I feel like I on you to your face. To your face.

[Corey Holcomb]

Be careful now.

[Commentator/Analyst]

He left you no choice. He left you no choice. Corey, right now. He left you no motherfucking choice. I feel like I'm shitting on you. He left you no choice. You gotta. You gotta go and cook him. He left you no choice. You gotta beat the glasses off of him. He left you no choice. You understand? Now you got to grab him. Yeah. Nah. He left you no choice.

[Corey Holcomb]

Because I feel like you're talking again. I'm not talking. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. You on me to my face. But that.

[Anton Daniels]

Can we please stop the. The.

[Corey Holcomb]

Trust me.

[Anton Daniels]

The tough talk? I got security. You got security.

[Corey Holcomb]

I ain't got security. They're my people.

[Anton Daniels]

Cool them.

[Corey Holcomb]

Yo, you gotta hire a To be with you.

[Anton Daniels]

Absolutely. I'm always gonna have to hire somebody. You better 100.

[Corey Holcomb]

How you be talking.

[Anton Daniels]

Stop talking tough. Stop talking, homie.

[Corey Holcomb]

You. You just said that. I'm not talking tough. I'm talking to you straight up.

[Anton Daniels]

Why. Why are you so.

[Corey Holcomb]

You said you disrespected me in my face, and then you act like it was all good.

[Anton Daniels]

I disrespected you to your face. So I'm confirming what you said you felt.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Disres Frankie playing mind games with him. So then you gonna take that. What I know to be blatant disrespect when you say I on you and flip it oh, no, I was just saying it. Cause you said you did respectful. Y' all playing ecan. So he really think he's smarter than Corey? I'm telling y', all, man. He done gained all his superpowers on Corey and buffed up on him. And he telling them, you ain't gonna do. Stop the. Tough day, man. Stop the. When a knee. You gotta hit this dude. When a doing that to. Man, come on, man.

[Corey Holcomb]

Stop it.

[Commentator/Analyst]

You gotta go. Yeah, you gotta go and put. Yeah, come on, man. He gotta. Come on, man. But again, they both went outside because Anton ain't supposed to let him get that close. Back up off me. My boy and I saw Anton Bell a couple of times. But as it pertains to. As we get into the deep depths of it, the way he's treating Corey calls for some kind of action. If you play that kind of game, I think it's irresponsible. You're gonna go viral, then you're gonna lose sponsorship, and you're gonna be looked at like a. That can't control itself. Like, it's just. It's no good. It's no good. No bueno.

[Anton Daniels]

I am telling you that I disrespected you. If that's the way you felt. Is that not what you said? You said that out of your mouth, and so I apologize. When you said that you felt disrespectful.

[Corey Holcomb]

No, no, no. The reason you said you disrespected me in my face.

[Anton Daniels]

You didn't. You don't accept the apology because you.

[Corey Holcomb]

Still talking about everybody else except yourself and white men.

[Anton Daniels]

I'm telling you what I said. You felt offended by it, so I apologize. All I'm doing is rehashing the conversation that happened. Why you so easily offended? We just don't talk about me.

[Corey Holcomb]

It sound like I'm arguing because I'm right. See, I'll be around bitches and they tell me about myself all the time.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Up until this point right here. Again, this is why I'm saying this is content. This is high level jujitsu mind tricks, mind games being played. If you're asking me, this is Corey giving his fan base material. He understands, like, all right, you done crossed the line twice. You think you can play with me? I'm finna gone and cross the line in the show.

[Corey Holcomb]

It's probably better this way because.

[Anton Daniels]

Because I just proved my point.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Be down.

[Corey Holcomb]

So you proved the point, homie. Just gone, man. Just gone, man. You gone. You didn't did this before. Hey, homie, get your ass the on and walk over there with your bodyguard and your walk over there with your bodyguard and your I got to do you're right don't bring up here dog that you ain't gonna stand on Remember I told you that if you got a with you explain the don't ask her to be on my show can she be on the show I don't know that now get your whole ass the on and pay for your like you got to kick ass and go get you a bodyguard cause a beating slap the out your ass I got to do I ain't gonna follow that out the dope I am who I say I am I stand on it.

[Commentator/Analyst]

So again if you're asking me at that particular time as we ended this conversation with Anton Danes and Corey Holcomb, Corey realized that, yo, I gotta redeem myself, give my fan base something to work with. In the event this interview went to duration and these gentlemen sat down for two hours and had a conversation after that interaction, it would have looked even worse if it didn't end this way. Corey Holcomb didn't give his people a.

[Podcast Narrator]

Lot of con when segregation One mysterious black club owner, Charlie Fitzgerald had his own rules.

[Corey Holcomb]

Segregation in the day, integration at night.

[Anton Daniels]

It was like stepping in another world.

[Podcast Narrator]

Was he a businessman? A criminal, a hero?

[Commentator/Analyst]

Charlie was an example of power they had to crush him.

[Podcast Narrator]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Commentator/Analyst]

So, no, I am not your guru.

[Ryder Strong]

And back then, I lied to everybody.

[Anton Daniels]

They have had this case for 30 years.

[Ryder Strong]

I'm going back to my hometown to uncover the truth. Listen to the red weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Corey Holcomb]

This show contains information subject to but.

[Anton Daniels]

Not limited to personal takes, rumors, not.

[Corey Holcomb]

So accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? It's your boy, Nav Green from the Broken Play podcast. Look, it's the end of the season. The playoffs are here.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Guess what? It ain't the end of your season.

[Corey Holcomb]

You can always tune in with Broken Play podcast with Nav Green on the.

[Anton Daniels]

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[Corey Holcomb]

Not a team who ain't going to the playoffs. The Chief. It's time to rebuild. Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Podcast Narrator]

When segregation was a law, one mysterious black club owner, Charlie Fitzgerald, had his own rules.

[Corey Holcomb]

Segregation in the day, integration at night.

[Anton Daniels]

It was like stepping on another world.

[Podcast Narrator]

Was he a business businessman? A criminal? A hero?

[Commentator/Analyst]

Charlie was an example of power. They had to crush him.

[Podcast Narrator]

Charlie's Place from Atlas Obscura and visit Myrtle Beach. Listen to Charlie's place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.