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Mandy B
Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However, before we get to this week's episode, I want to remind you guys to purchase my book, no Holes Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power. So feel free to go to your local bookstores, preferably queer owned, black owned or woman owned, to support them, but also just click the button on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles or wherever you read your books. Again, that is no Holds Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power written by yours truly and my co host of the Decisions Decisions podcast, Wheezy. Make sure y' all get that. Now let's get to this week's episode. This is Mandy B. Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of the Black Effect podcast network and iHeartRadio. What's up y'?
Jason Rodriguez
All?
Mandy B
Welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance with your girl Mandy B. And baby, we are getting into all the things from this weekend where damn near the entire country was either iced out, literally, or snowed. Snowed out, snowed in. All the things we're gonna get into how we had our ignorant thoughts and moments during the ice storm here in the south. And we're getting into the panicking, the over preparing, the under preparing and the new scam that I found out here in Atlanta that's taken place. And I want to alert you and the rest of the country then up first, and this is America. Is everyone for sale? We're talking IP ownership in the creator economy after Kevin Hart licensed his entire name. Damn. And then Tiktoker Khaby Lame sold his brand for almost 900 million. And then some random woman on TikTok who sung about Dr. Pepper got $2 million from that company. Dr. Pepper Baby is good and nice. So we're talking all of those things as well. As y' all know, last week I touched on Kai Sanat reading on stream. Well, we're gonna get into a law that was just Passed. That is now banning books and magazines from prison. And kind of what that means, who it impacts, and why literacy feels kind of controversial already in 2026. Then in celebrities say the darnest things, y'. All. It's loaded. We're talking Kanye apology Cam' Ron kind of embarrassing his ex, talking about assets and liabilities. And then Gervonta Davis gets stripped of his title due to his own actions. Okay, dumbass, we're getting into all of the things, but not before I introduce my team. I am joined by my super producer. We got gang, gang, gang. You know, we got journalism Jason signed in from Jersey over there. You know what I mean?
Aaron A. King Howard
Trying to stay warm.
Mandy B
You said what now?
Aaron A. King Howard
I said trying to stay warm over here.
Mandy B
We're. We apparently are really in global warming because, baby, we are also trying to stay warm here. Currently, we are recording this the day Y' all are probably listening to this episode. It is 24 degrees in Atlanta, Georgia. What the hell is that? Now? We also got podcast OG a king with the yurt. You brought all the New York weather here is what you do.
Hunter Woodhull
Atlanta, York.
Mandy B
What up, Atlanta York.
Hunter Woodhull
Atlanta York.
Mandy B
That is what we're calling you.
Hunter Woodhull
I love seeing Atleans wearing Timberlands and snorkels and bubble coat. I'm like, I don't want to hear no New York.
Mandy B
New York niggas.
Hunter Woodhull
Nigga, welcome.
Mandy B
I ain't even gonna hold you. I didn't know motherfuckers in Georgia own Timberlands.
Hunter Woodhull
Yo, they lit.
Mandy B
They are dressing like some Yankees if I ever seen one.
Hunter Woodhull
I be like, yo, y' all from where you from?
Mandy B
Where you from?
Hunter Woodhull
Not twin. Not twin. Not twin.
Aaron A. King Howard
It's cold.
Mandy B
Twin.
Jason Rodriguez
Not twin. Not Twin.
Aaron A. King Howard
Not the lingo with the accent.
Mandy B
Listen, not twin, by the way, you cannot see her, but we have a woman who joined the cast here. We got yomi over there on the ones and twos. And then, of course, I'm joined by my journalism, Jason, AKA Jot, AKA the real Jason Lee, AKA the headline king.
Jason Rodriguez
Huh? Pod blessing all the yap niggas, period.
Mandy B
Oh, I like that. See what I mean?
Jason Rodriguez
You can be quick with pod blessing all the yap niggas. What up?
Mandy B
I like that. No, no, no, no, no. So excited. We are recording this on Tuesday, the day the episode is dropping, because we have all been kind of snowed in, but scared to, like, make plans to have y' all niggas drive. Cause y' all actually don't live in Atlanta proper. Y' all kind of are on the outskirts. Like, Atlanta is Not the address on your mail. It's something else, right?
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah, my mail goes to Dunwoody, Georgia.
Mandy B
The good old suburbs, y' all in some suburbans. What about yours, AK oh, he said y' all can't even see the face. He said, these niggas not knowing my address out here, they not knowing the.
Hunter Woodhull
Eddie, I'm bistatal.
Jason Rodriguez
You trying to dodge some taxes. That's what it is. You know what I mean?
Mandy B
Wait, wait, are you. Let me not ask you. How you.
Jason Rodriguez
How you.
Hunter Woodhull
I am. I appreciate amendment. The Second Amendment, Constitution. But soon I'll be able to participate.
Jason Rodriguez
Fair enough.
Mandy B
Not soon I'll be able to participate. Well, yeah, I guess. Let's get right into this ice storm that impacted everyone's weekend, that had us bunkered in, that had us scared. I have. Okay, let me just go ahead and leave.
Hunter Woodhull
You met a new friend, too. We'll get to that.
Mandy B
I'm gonna start with my ignorance real quick. Okay, first off, what I realized. And y' all have heard me talk about it before, right? I'm not gonna fight the zombies, but apparently what's gonna do me before the zombies is the global warming and climate change that impacts us. Because although we were given at least a week of preparation. Yeah. It got to Sunday. No. Yeah, it was Sunday. And I realized all I bought was charcuterie board items. So I had hummus, tzatziki, fruit and cheeses. And then my homegirl shout out to her, she brought me the prosciutto, you know what I mean? Can't have it without the pork, without the swan.
Jason Rodriguez
Y' all over there with all salt, in fact, baby.
Mandy B
So I realized that I am like, mind you, I grew up in Florida, right? So we used to have to prepare for hurricanes.
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah.
Mandy B
But I realized my mama prepared us. Cause she had to worry about us as kids. When you are kidless and all you gotta do is worry about yourself. You like, eh? I'll make it. I'll be just fine.
Aaron A. King Howard
I'll figure it out.
Mandy B
Literally, my mom was calling me, telling me, get out of there. I said, bitch, you is a hurricane chaser. As a white woman. Okay, you be ready to sit outside with your cigarette pack and a Bacardi and Coke watching the storm go by. And you want me to get out of here? I said, girl, I lived in New York. I'm good. And then she was like, no. I heard power was gonna go out. I said, I got coats, I got blankets. But I realized I didn't prepare myself, really, for food. So here we go. Where we get into the ignorance of it. All right? So I look outside, it ain't look that icy. It wasn't really snowing. So we started calling restaurants.
Jason Rodriguez
You open?
Hunter Woodhull
Oh, man.
Mandy B
You open. You open. Now, my homegirl has a Tesla.
Jason Rodriguez
Oh, man, that sounds like the wrong vehicle to have, which I didn't wanna.
Mandy B
I ain't gonna hold you. I was scared for the Tesla to go on the road, mind you. The thing froze. She had to preheat her car with an apple in order to even get into it. She couldn't open the handle.
Hunter Woodhull
The trunk wouldn't open upon purchasing the vehicle.
Mandy B
Of course, she didn't know that. She didn't know a lot of shit about the goddamn Tesla. Okay, so Elon Musk got niggas having to warm up. They shit like a Hot Pocket to get into it if the weather dropped. Anywho. So we're calling these restaurants. We're calling these restaurants, and we realize we don't really want to drive, but at this point, we're willing to put someone else in danger to deliver. So we call the restaurants, we see who opened. And in order for us to get over the fact that we're making people work during a state of emergency, we decided it's not our fault. They gotta take that up with the owner. The owner made you come in. So while you're working, we're gonna make sure you work. Take it up with the owner. Right? This is real ignorant, y'. All. I know, but this is my thought. Because, bitch, we wanted food, and we was hungry, right? And we had already ate the charcuterie. We ate, like, two or three charcuterie meals.
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah, I was gonna say, like, how much charcuterie.
Mandy B
How much charcuterie can you eat? So, mind you, we also had noodles. She made a tuna sandwich. I had my noodles and noodles.
Jason Rodriguez
Y' all niggas, y' all should have.
Aaron A. King Howard
Kept that to yourself.
Hunter Woodhull
They hold back on the pack, and they put the whole joint in there.
Mandy B
Yeah, no, I do have. I do have the seasoning pack.
Jason Rodriguez
Half the seasoning pack is probably still 250% of your daily alumin.
Aaron A. King Howard
Yeah, I was gonna say it's like a week's worth.
Mandy B
No, no, no, no. You should have saw me, too. I bought this noodle pack specifically from the farmer's market, so it's a product of Singapore. So I was like, it has to be more healthy than a product of the US and oodles and noodles. Cause, anyways, I thought it was healthier. Okay, so anyways. Anyways, we Found a spot that was open. Wings and pasta. Real Atlanta.
Jason Rodriguez
That's some real Atlanta. Shit. I can tell you when the name of the restaurant is the shit that we serve. That's some real Atlanta.
Mandy B
No, even more Atlanta. It's called Hungry af. That is hungry.
Jason Rodriguez
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Hunter Woodhull
See, are you looking at to see if they actually have physical locations?
Mandy B
No, they do.
Jason Rodriguez
Oh, yeah. They have brick and mortar.
Mandy B
They do. And it's open till 2:30.
Hunter Woodhull
No, I mean in general. When you, you know, on a storm night.
Mandy B
I don't be caring. Honestly, if it's made in a ghost kitchen, it's probably the kitchens is all sketch. Okay.
Jason Rodriguez
I've eaten some fire meals out of ghost kitchens and I'm fine with it and I'm all right with it.
Mandy B
Yeah. So we decide to order from Hungry af. Okay, we decide we're not hopping in your Tesla. So I hop my ass on the Uber Eats. So I get to the Uber Eats. This is a place that delivers in like 30 minutes. I said, ooh, bitch, we about to eat up good.
Jason Rodriguez
Nigga had they mouth set.
Mandy B
Order, order. This is how hungry we are. I'm waiting, I'm tracking. I said, ooh, he's picking up our order. Ooh, he got our order. Ooh, he's seven minutes away. That seven minutes away was seven minutes away for about 20 minutes. Then I notice he's going a different direction. So here go Crystal. Like, well, girl, maybe there's an accident. Bitch, you know, it's a state of emergency. They told people stay off the roads. Maybe he had to go another way. Ah, ah, ah. I said, bitch, he on a motorbike. He could get on the sidewalk like.
Jason Rodriguez
On a motorbike in that car. He could have been dead. That nigga might have been, you know.
Mandy B
So here I go. Hey, I see you're not moving. Are you okay?
Jason Rodriguez
He reads it a concerned citizen. I was politeness first.
Mandy B
I literally. Politeness first, mind you. Hold on. I screenshotted these.
Aaron A. King Howard
I'm reading it right now.
Mandy B
Yeah, now you don't even know. Cause mind you, he's supposed to be seven minutes away. Bet. So I'm like, hey, are you okay? I see you're not moving. This was at 6:45pm I hit him seven minutes later. Cause again, he only supposed to be seven minutes away. But at this point, he is no longer moving. I'm zooming into the map.
Hunter Woodhull
What's your humor at this point?
Mandy B
It's an apartment complex.
Hunter Woodhull
What's your hunger meter?
Aaron A. King Howard
That's a good question.
Jason Rodriguez
Are you hangry yet.
Mandy B
Oh, I'm hangry.
Jason Rodriguez
Oh, yeah.
Mandy B
Cause I've been eating pickles and cheese for a day now.
Hunter Woodhull
Jesus Christ.
Mandy B
I'm hangry. So I go. And I'm like, okay. It goes from arrives. It's arrives at 6:42, arrives at 6:51, arrives at 6:58, arrives at 7:10, arrives at 7:15. He's not moving. He is at Ashley or Auburn Point Apartments. Oh, yeah, I'm putting it out there. Maybe we bleep it. I don't know. But I see the apartment complex that he. He chilling. He not moving. So I text him again. Hey, I see you're not moving. I know there's ice. Are you okay? This is when I was concerned.
Hunter Woodhull
Compassionate Mandy.
Jason Rodriguez
Mm.
Aaron A. King Howard
Mm. Yeah, Son isn't too wise. In the hay, bro.
Mandy B
Real nice, bro.
Hunter Woodhull
Now that gets you.
Jason Rodriguez
Deliver me to be rude yet.
Hunter Woodhull
Because she had a little bit of. She's like, I don't want to diss him completely, but, hey, I know this bad weather, but.
Mandy B
But however, you ready? So I go to just look at his account now.
Jason Rodriguez
Oh. I'm like, devon, she digging.
Mandy B
Devon got my food. Let me see what Devon do.
Hunter Woodhull
Here we go, y'.
Mandy B
All. Devon has zero deliveries.
Jason Rodriguez
Dirty game.
Mandy B
I said zero. Zero.
Hunter Woodhull
And.
Mandy B
And why do you. Cause, nigga, he didn't deliver. He didn't deliver my food either. I said, oh, this a new scam. I said, n is creating Uber Eats accounts to get meals. And at this point, I'm like, damn. He did this for shrimp pasta, salmon pasta, and honey lemon pepper wings.
Aaron A. King Howard
You gotta run that photo. You gotta run the photo to see if it's an AI photo or accounts.
Mandy B
By the way, I wanna tell you, I wanna tell y' all about this restaurant, because never have I ever seen a restaurant with 10 different renditions of something with lemon pepper. We talk about biracials, niggas. They done turn lemon pepper into a thing that just gets mixed with everything else. So it was honey, garlic, lemon pepper, honey lemon pepper, barbecue lemon pepper, spicy lemon pepper, dry lemon pepper, wet lemon pepper. Lemon pepper. They had lemon pepper in ranch seasoning. Never saw that before.
Hunter Woodhull
I think lemon pepper is the new obey. Oh, yeah.
Jason Rodriguez
I think that's fair.
Mandy B
You know what's crazy? No, no, no, no.
Jason Rodriguez
I think that's fair, right?
Mandy B
I think. No, no, no. Not old bae. Adobo.
Hunter Woodhull
Okay?
Jason Rodriguez
Adobo.
Mandy B
Go on. Everything for you.
Hunter Woodhull
Cause they put in lemon pepper and eggs lemon pepper, and I don't want.
Mandy B
Lemon pepper in my eggs. So anyways, I don't know if y' all know customer service with Uber Eats was very difficult. And because it was a state of emergency, n was like, nah, give him time. I said, nice. He had my food for 41 minutes.
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah, he had time.
Mandy B
Hold on. In cold weather at this point, my food about to be cold, right? If I ever get it. I said, him also holding on to food for 41 minutes. I don't want it. So I had to go back and forth with getting my refund. And then this was the last of it. Me and my best friend decided to be like, bitch, you wanna try from your account? She was like, but what if it happens again? I said, if it happens again, we gotta take this up with the Sky Daddy. Cause he ain't want us to eat. He wanted to show us a lesson, and we gotta go back to the charcuterie shit in the fridge. But luckily, the food ended up coming on her app, and Uber Eats gave me my money back. But it taught me that in case of a real emergency, when Uber Eats and Restaurants is not working, bitch, you will starve to death before anything else.
Jason Rodriguez
You better than me taking it up with Sky Daddy. I'd have went to the other guy like, hey, bro, who's the other guy? Satan. I took that up with Satan. Leave Sky Daddy out of this. Hey, bro. Abrah, I need you come get some. I need you to come get somebody, right?
Mandy B
I need karma.
Jason Rodriguez
I need karma. It's cold as hell outside. I'm frozen inside my crib. We've eaten salt.
Mandy B
No, no, calm down, calm down. I didn't go out my heat work now. Calm down.
Hunter Woodhull
Do you think the Uber Eats scammy? Do you think that he determined whether or not he was gonna execute the order by what the order was?
Jason Rodriguez
I would like.
Hunter Woodhull
Oh, shit.
Jason Rodriguez
She got.
Hunter Woodhull
That's how I got.
Mandy B
She got hungry.
Hunter Woodhull
Oh, that's my other favorite dish.
Aaron A. King Howard
I caught my lick.
Hunter Woodhull
Or asparagus and steamed rice. He would have delivered.
Mandy B
You know what? I'm actually, I wonder if they're able to see the full order before they get there. Cause, you know, like, Uber drivers aren't able to see the final destination until they accept arrive.
Hunter Woodhull
Well, when they get it or until.
Mandy B
You get in the car, right? You said what?
Hunter Woodhull
The receipt.
Mandy B
Oh, the receipt.
Aaron A. King Howard
Yeah.
Mandy B
Oh, he saw. He saw that. Lemon pepper honey.
Hunter Woodhull
They'll say, hey, what's the name? And then they might mention one or two items just for confirmation, right? And then that'll, you know, validate it and keep him pushing. You know, he might be like, oh, this is my Rasta. Pasta. Yeah.
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah. I would be collecting them joints like infinity stones. Like, I got some lobster from you. I got a steak from you.
Hunter Woodhull
If he did it to two other people.
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah, Toilet people. I'm gonna just run this thing up until they fire me.
Mandy B
When I tell you.
Aaron A. King Howard
I wonder if he would make like multiple accounts to do that.
Mandy B
So that's where I would love to know if there are any Uber Eats delivery drivers that listen to this.
Aaron A. King Howard
Yeah, we need a scammer to call in.
Mandy B
I wanna know how easy it is for y' all to make accounts or what needs to be verified. Cause devoin is over there rated. Hold on. That's the other thing. Zero point. I need to know he's rated a top rated courier. How you rated top rated with zero deliveries.
Jason Rodriguez
Let me see the wrong.
Aaron A. King Howard
I wonder if that's part of his picture.
Mandy B
Okay, that's what I'm saying.
Aaron A. King Howard
You should run the picture.
Hunter Woodhull
But I would think that they their license for confirmation.
Mandy B
I ain't gonna hold you black men. I love you.
Hunter Woodhull
There we go.
Mandy B
But now we done got to the place where I don't want y' all to clean my house, do my grocery shopping or picking up my Uber Eats orders like black men. Where is the trust between us? Because it's been lost upon me, y'. All. And it's an ignorant way to think. I know. But now I'm a little. I'm a little. I'm a little. I'm about to even start riding the her app. You know there's a Her Ride.
Hunter Woodhull
What's that?
Jason Rodriguez
What is that about?
Mandy B
Y' all aren't familiar with Her Ride?
Hunter Woodhull
No, no.
Jason Rodriguez
Everybody.
Mandy B
Her Ride. It is an app.
Jason Rodriguez
I don't know. I don't know about the Her Ride. What is the.
Mandy B
So Her Ride. And I only really see it promoted heavily here in Atlanta for good reason, of course. Her Ride is an Uber Apps woman owned company where only women drivers are the drivers. So you can download the app. And as a woman, you're safer to get in a car with a woman driver.
Hunter Woodhull
It's even a thing that we have to create a Her version.
Mandy B
Who should you blame? Because niggas set up a goddamn town hall amongst other men. Why are we so scared? Y' all need to work on the behavior of your own kind.
Jason Rodriguez
No, that's how bad there's a misogyny economy. That's how crazy this is. Like there are. There are services and goods and businesses specifically catered to women because they don't feel safe around you niggas.
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Woodhull and I'm US Paralympic gold medalist Hunter Woodhull.
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Hunter Woodhull
I have an ignorant take.
Mandy B
Ooh.
Jason Rodriguez
Mm, mm.
Hunter Woodhull
When I call customer service.
Mandy B
Yeah.
Hunter Woodhull
For, you know, to handle issue a credit dispute or whatever. If I hear a dude pick up, oh, I hang up. I hang up until I get a woman.
Jason Rodriguez
That's fair.
Aaron A. King Howard
Facts, facts. I do that too.
Hunter Woodhull
My thought processes.
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah.
Aaron A. King Howard
A man ain't gonna help you.
Hunter Woodhull
He's gonna deny me as soon as I tell her the problem. Yo, he like, nah, we can't help you. A woman. Hey, how you doing?
Mandy B
What's the weather like?
Hunter Woodhull
You from New York?
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah. Oh, I hope you.
Mandy B
I thought your ignorant take was gonna go somewhere so different. I thought you were gonna say if they answered and it was like, hello, my name is Daniel. How may I?
Jason Rodriguez
I'm not gonna lie.
Hunter Woodhull
Okay, so you wanna hear. You wanna hear?
Jason Rodriguez
Not okay, I ain't gonna hold you. Who has an accent like that? And they named you Daniel? My fuck is.
Hunter Woodhull
You say an Indian person. I would talk to an Indian person before I talk to a nigga.
Mandy B
Oh, oh.
Hunter Woodhull
When I'm dealing with disputes or cutting.
Mandy B
You know what's crazy? I ain't gonna hold you when I call Delta. Cause you know they hold home base is here. Hey, I like Tyrone helping me niggas.
Jason Rodriguez
I be like, hey, man, Delta different.
Mandy B
I said, do you know what I'm going through in this airport? He be like, man, I know it's crazy and is. So help a sister out. I love calling Delta in a nigga pick up.
Hunter Woodhull
Delta's different, though.
Jason Rodriguez
Delta.
Mandy B
That Delta's a little different.
Hunter Woodhull
They have a different.
Mandy B
I thought you was gonna go with.
Hunter Woodhull
The X. I don't like when I hear dudes. They just very.
Mandy B
No misogyny, standoffish.
Jason Rodriguez
Well, you gotta think some of these niggas, the only power they have in their life is when they pick up the phone and get to decide whether or not you get your money back.
Hunter Woodhull
Talk to em.
Jason Rodriguez
So like when they get it behind that phone, it's like, oh, I'm Thanos now I'm in charge of all this shit.
Hunter Woodhull
They ain't never been in charge before.
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah, right, right.
Aaron A. King Howard
It's kinda like they wanna pack you up and talk about it lunchtime.
Hunter Woodhull
But they don't gonna get to that.
Mandy B
We'll get to it. You got a quick ignorant take before we get into.
Jason Rodriguez
I had one. And then I was listening to your story about the Uber eats and Devon punk ass.
Hunter Woodhull
Devon punk ass.
Jason Rodriguez
Devon punk ass Devon. And I thought about another one that I had that kind of remind me of you. Now that I think, oh shit. Damn. Cause we know that Mandy don't like nobody kids. Manny don't give a shit about nobody. You're right.
Mandy B
So I'm nervous.
Jason Rodriguez
We getting prepared for this storm and we going around. I'm buying stuff. I'm making a trip to Publix. I'm buying water. They bought up all the water. I probably played myself. They brought up all the water, all the chicken. So I'm like, all right, I'm gonna grab these couple of things. And then I was like, damn. I don't really have like. I kind of the same thing. I had not charcuterie, but I had snacks and random. I don't have no real food. Let me go in here and get a sandwich. Go to the Publix deli. Get a sandwich with a public sub hit and public. My mouth was set. I was like, oh, I'm about to go fuck this public sandwich. Nope.
Mandy B
Uh oh.
Jason Rodriguez
Get to the deli. There's one person in front of me. Cool. I'm gonna get in here. Get outta here.
Mandy B
Okay.
Jason Rodriguez
As I'm walking to the counter, I see the whole row of the deli counter is lined up with bread. And I'm like, what's going on here? The lady in front of me ordered 13.
Hunter Woodhull
No way.
Jason Rodriguez
Publix sandwiches.
Mandy B
She got money.
Jason Rodriguez
Thirteen, man.
Mandy B
Baby, baby. They hitting like them Quiznos prices.
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah, yeah.
Mandy B
You know how Quiz used to be elite over Subway? Yeah. Public subs ain't cheap.
Jason Rodriguez
Go in there. Get that boy's head if you want to. That gonna run you 15. She had 13 sandwiches.
Mandy B
Damn.
Jason Rodriguez
The lady is. Is trying to go down the line, squeeze a mustard. She got a different order for everyone. All of these individual things. And I'm sitting there and I'm looking at the back of her head and I'm like, If I had, like, laser eyes, I would just, like.
Mandy B
You pierce them through.
Jason Rodriguez
I would just burn this lady's scalp off right now. Like, who the fuck orders 13 sand?
Mandy B
Not. You said you would turn into Homelander.
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah, Real Homelander vibes. I was really feeling like, yo. Cause who does that?
Hunter Woodhull
Well, she. Let's play red, black, brown, and yellow.
Mandy B
Why are we doing that?
Aaron A. King Howard
Yeah, yeah.
Mandy B
Oh, wait, wait, wait. She's definitely white, so I'm gonna say she was black.
Jason Rodriguez
Oh, man.
Aaron A. King Howard
Nah. To buy all the sandwiches like that, it had to be a white person.
Jason Rodriguez
It be your own people. I don't know how many kids this lady had. She gonna tell the lady at the. Just making the sandwiches. Yeah, I ain't cooking nothing for my kids and husband and I.
Aaron A. King Howard
That's what I'm saying. It's definitely somebody who don't cook to line up 13 like that.
Hunter Woodhull
Lord have mercy.
Jason Rodriguez
Duh. 13.
Aaron A. King Howard
When are y' all going to the stores, though?
Jason Rodriguez
Like, I bullshit. I didn't go till Friday.
Aaron A. King Howard
Oh, there you go.
Jason Rodriguez
So I did play my stuff, by the way.
Mandy B
By the way. Conspiracy time.
Hunter Woodhull
Okay.
Mandy B
Ice storm created by the government.
Jason Rodriguez
Oh, God, Why? Hold on.
Mandy B
Hear me.
Aaron A. King Howard
To boost the economy.
Jason Rodriguez
This is how it starts.
Mandy B
Y' all remember last week we talked about the piece of chicken, the piece of broccoli, and the tortilla? We did because we've been talking about grocery prices and how nobody can afford groceries. True government said, let's see if y' all really can afford them, bitch. Grocery stores cleared out across the entire country. Hold on. Water's gone. You couldn't even find water. You couldn't find certain cheese. The meats were gone. When I say that the people who actually know how to be prepared, unlike me, cleared out them grocery stores. So now that we're back on the other side of it, I wouldn't doubt that the government is in like, oh, these niggas can afford. You just gotta put em.
Aaron A. King Howard
You know, there was a chicken supply chain issue, too, on top of that.
Mandy B
Wait, there was a what issue?
Aaron A. King Howard
There was a chicken supply chain issue, coincidentally. If I'm adding on to your conspiracy, the same week of the storm, it was a supply chain issue with chicken up and down the East Coast.
Mandy B
See what I mean?
Jason Rodriguez
We might got to get one of them tin foil bucket hats.
Mandy B
No, we got to get it on the show.
Aaron A. King Howard
Put it on the shelf.
Jason Rodriguez
And I hate conspiracy theories, but I might. I might fuck with you on that.
Hunter Woodhull
I always say, if I'm an economist, I'm watching how people spend during the holidays. Because we're supposed to be in a recession, right? We're supposed to be watching our money. But then when you go to these stores, everything's gone. To your point. All right? They said the power might have power outages. That was my biggest fear. Cause they said it could be a month, a week, whatever. I looked up generators. Oh, you know, they were sold out.
Aaron A. King Howard
They were sold out.
Jason Rodriguez
Generators.
Hunter Woodhull
You know how much a generator? A legit.
Jason Rodriguez
A thousand dollars. Yeah.
Hunter Woodhull
Plus the warranty.
Jason Rodriguez
Minimal, for sure.
Hunter Woodhull
Gone. Ace Hardware, Home Depot, Walmart, Lowe's. All the northern tool, by the way.
Mandy B
Snowstorm up in the north, but the south got ice. But this is why I think the government did it. Florida wasn't even included. Bitch, they was 86 degrees on Sunday while we were sitting here with ice. Ice. Sickles from the power lines make it make sense. Anyway, that was my conspiracy theory. That's funny that you. You ain't want that woman to feed her kids with public subs.
Jason Rodriguez
13. Did you like 13? Huh? Did you get.
Hunter Woodhull
They had enough bread for you?
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah, I had to sit there and wait. I got like. There was like, three rolls left, and I had to get wheat. I didn't even want to get meat.
Hunter Woodhull
Were you bracing yourself for that? Like, oh, we ain't got no more.
Jason Rodriguez
Because I was worried she was gonna get a text or a phone call and be like, ah, my dirty ass nephews and nieces are coming over here. I gotta get some more sandwiches. Like, I was sitting there looking like, hey, man, I feel like this is one of those. Call ahead. Like, you know, you go to a restaurant. You can't call a restaurant to have, like, walk in with 20 people. You got to call ahead, get a party. So I feel like that's a catering order.
Mandy B
Ooh, that's 13 sandwiches.
Jason Rodriguez
Like, come on, ladies.
Mandy B
All different orders.
Jason Rodriguez
All different orders. All different.
Mandy B
You couldn't just do the turkey club.
Jason Rodriguez
And just say, boom, make it go home. About your business. No. 13 complete, unique sandwiches. That's seasonings and all that shit.
Mandy B
Yeah, fuck that woman and her kids. I said, bro, fuck them kids. All right, anyway, let's get into this is America don't got you slipping, though. And we're talking. Is everybody for sale? Now, I want to include all three of these together because they're all three different types of deals. But I want us to kind of really share our thoughts about it. I'll talk about what happened with Kevin Hart and Khaby Lame. And then we're going to get into a fun game with the woman who sold the Dr. Pepper jingle for $2 million. So not sure if you guys were aware, but Kevin Hart inked a deal for his name. So Kevin Hart is now sold to Authentic Brand Group where they will license his name to get him brands, products, all these other things. Now I looked up and I want to bring up, actually I did a quick little research on it, on what really it entailed, but it's really interesting because basically he still owns his name. This was more of like an IP move right now.
Jason Rodriguez
So they have this for a limited amount of time.
Mandy B
Is it, is it limited?
Aaron A. King Howard
Well, it's. So he entered into a partnership where he's. There we go. I think what makes it unique is that he became a stakeholder in the company. So the company and Kevin Hart together will co manage his name.
Jason Rodriguez
So it's okay.
Aaron A. King Howard
But like, usually these deals are like when people pass. So like, Muhammad Ali has a deal with the company, his estate did it with the company. Marilyn Monroe has a deal with the company, the state. So it's unique in that he's alive. And so I think the difference is he became like a stakeholder to manage it as well to a company.
Mandy B
So it doesn't mean that he doesn't act anymore, perform. He's still able to do all of those things. He's just. Now he's turned his name into a business essentially right now, Khaby Lame, who is a TikTok creator, did the same thing. He did a $900 million deal. Right. But the $900 million deal was for shares into a company, so it wasn't a cash payout. And I thought that this was really interesting because what his deal is is kind of the same. They're able to take his business, his content, and license it into all of these different moves. However, the interesting thing about this and what makes it different than Kevin Hart's is this includes the company creating an AI digital twin of Kavy Lemay. So the agreement includes plans to use his likeness, voice and behavioral data to create an AI version of him that can generate multilingual content and branded activations beyond his physical availability. Yeah, interesting. Uh oh, Ja's shaking his head.
Jason Rodriguez
No, it's just crazy. Like, listen, man, don't ever let nobody tell you that it can't happen. Right? It can happen for you.
Mandy B
It can happen for you.
Jason Rodriguez
Because Khaby Lame doesn't talk.
Mandy B
No, he literally don't talk.
Jason Rodriguez
He doesn't talk. And he's being paid $900 million to create a digital version of him that talks.
Mandy B
Yes, right.
Jason Rodriguez
Every day.
Aaron A. King Howard
That's almost the genius of it too, because you don't know what he sounds like. And each language you can create a new voice and people will think, that's his.
Jason Rodriguez
That's actually him.
Aaron A. King Howard
That's what he sounds like.
Mandy B
Now, for y' all who don't know, he is the most followed person on TikTok. So he essentially is the TikTok version of a Kai Sadat and what Kai Sanat was able to do, or actually ishowspeed actually is now the biggest once since he just completed his tour of Africa.
Aaron A. King Howard
Right.
Mandy B
But yeah, I found this to be really interesting, I think, to make yourself a company or to be able to sell yourself. Bitch, I'm selling myself. I sell myself for a lot less at one point in my life.
Aaron A. King Howard
Okay.
Mandy B
I absolutely find this incredible that as a creator, you don't have to feel burdened. Or is that the word? Right. Burdened.
Jason Rodriguez
Burdened.
Mandy B
Burdened. No, burdened. B, U E R, G. Okay.
Hunter Woodhull
Burgond.
Mandy B
Burgond.
Hunter Woodhull
Something like that.
Mandy B
Baby, I've been reading the dictionary.
Jason Rodriguez
What is the definition of the word that we looking for?
Mandy B
It just sounded right. I want to teach.
Hunter Woodhull
Insert blunder sound effect here.
Mandy B
Anyway, to know that you don't have to be this person that has to constantly show up or be in front of the camera. I saw a clip of Kev on stage, right. He talked about every day he posts two to three videos a day to his socials across the year. He might post 2,000, 3,000 videos. He said of that 3,000 videos, he may want to do 25, but he has to. A part of why he can sell these tickets on tour, part of why he's able to get these deals with these networks for his content is because he has to do this amount of output as a job. He's dependent on putting out this amount of content. So imagine being able to sell yourself for $975 million and a company be able to replicate that without you actually having to do the physical work. I would do it.
Jason Rodriguez
So I guess my question would be especially in Kevin Hart's. I guess for both of them. But for Kevin Hart, he's part of the company. So I'm assuming that he has obviously, some say in what the things are that they use it. Use his likeness for. Right? I mean, is that.
Mandy B
I'm glad you brought that up. Khabi's is shared control. So he does still have say with this company.
Hunter Woodhull
Right.
Mandy B
Brand governance is centralized for Kabi Distributed with Kevin Hart. So again, his team has A lot of say. Now here's the issue, or not really issue commercial decisions. So when you're bringing in all those things, Kevin Hart's is collaborative. Khabi has no say. It's corporate led. So a part of Khabi, but again, someone who hasn't said anything, he's a Senegalese immigrant here in America. And I think he might have left America, but I don't blame him. But he's someone that may have no idea of how to run this thing. To me, it's not. It's similar to the difference between a Joe Budden and a Charlemagne. Right. Joe Budden is leading his own entity, has created himself as a corporation and is running himself the Joe Button Network as a corporation. Then you have Charlamagne, who learns corporate, but in partnership with Iheart.
Jason Rodriguez
Right.
Mandy B
So I think that's kind of what this kind of would look like from a podcast landscape.
Hunter Woodhull
Do you think that's predicated on the opportunity that presents itself too?
Mandy B
I think that too. I agree.
Hunter Woodhull
Sometimes, like, how much is Mandy B. How much would you sell your name and likeness for today?
Mandy B
I'm expensive, though. I'm not this expensive.
Hunter Woodhull
Somebody said, hey, I got 200 million.
Mandy B
I mean, I think that that's a thing. Well, when you talk about selling yourself too, right? It's. Do you believe that your worth right now is larger than this? Because when you go to work with a company, you're letting oftentimes a company say what they value, what they evaluate you as. And so if someone comes in and wants to buy me right now, but I have full belief that, nah, this is about to grow, I might want to hold off and sell myself later down the line and continue investing into myself. Right? So, I mean, I think it's different. I right now license my things. So I completely own the IP of horrible decisions and what Weezy and I have created over there. This right now that I'm building out and creating, including The Patreon, the YouTube, what. This is still waiting on the trademark, but I'm building another ip. So this is all different then of course it's me, but it's. I'm building my singular equity in brand currently because I've been a part of duos for so long as well, you know. So I ain't got a number right now, but I got a number, if that makes sense.
Jason Rodriguez
But that number probably has eight figures on it.
Mandy B
Oh, nothing less. I would go up to nine figures.
Jason Rodriguez
Okay. Like, yeah, but that's that masterpiece shit though. Like, you know, when was it Universal. I believe Jason, that he was initially gonna partner with no Limit. We're looking for a deal. I think he offered him $10 million.
Mandy B
Oh, yeah.
Jason Rodriguez
He turned it down because he was like.
Aaron A. King Howard
The quote he said.
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah, the quote he said was like, if they're gonna give me $10 million, then what must I really be worth, right? So, like, that number. Whatever number they're gonna give you, they're not gonna give you what you're worth. They're only gonna give you a percentage that makes them money. So if they're giving you that kind of money, what do they. So I guess I'm saying that to say is that, like, if for Kabi, it might be one thing because he doesn't talk, so I don't know what he considers his. His brand to be, but for Kevin Hart, it's like, if they're putting your name or your likeness on things that you don't really fuck with, or it comes out later that something they put your name on is suspect or has something going on with it and you just have to eat it that you don't know.
Mandy B
I would assume there's definitely some level of morality. Again, a king brought up that Kevin is still alive. So I would assume that there's more say to that. Like, even being a part of the Black Effect Network, right, we get things that come in, and we can approve or deny certain ads. So, like, y' all ain't gonna hear no Charlie Kirk network ads over here, right? Yeah, y' all not gonna hear that shit, right? Like, even I think at one point, it was a really big thing for us not to promote. Ooh, what was it?
Jason Rodriguez
Dick pills.
Mandy B
Oh, nigga, we promote dick.
Jason Rodriguez
You said, no, we selling some dick pills.
Mandy B
We gonna sell some dills.
Aaron A. King Howard
You said, we gonna slack.
Mandy B
We gonna slang them things y' all with. With your dick. We gonna sell them things. But just certain things that may not align with us. I know political things. Like there was. Y' all might not know this, but Bloomberg, when he was running in New York or entering one of the. Bloomberg was willing to spend money on the podcast, and there was a lot of conversation whether we wanted to politicize. Clearly, we get on and talk about the Orange Cheeto and Kamala, but having actual ads, you know, it's a little.
Jason Rodriguez
Eh, It's a different thing, you know?
Mandy B
It's a different thing.
Jason Rodriguez
Well, yeah, I mean, you don't want to get caught up. Like, this shit that's going on with Desi Banks, to me, is, like, kind of fascinating.
Mandy B
And what's happening with Desi Banks.
Jason Rodriguez
So there was. I forget the outlet. Jason, I don't know if you heard this story or not. Maybe you know what the outlet is. There was an outlet that basically did some. It was doing investigating into Mossad and this like, I don't know what you. I don't know how you want to describe Massad. I don't know if it's like a. I don't know if you call it a terrorist organization, like a political resistance organization of dubious means.
Mandy B
How the fuck Desi Banks and this get in?
Jason Rodriguez
So apparently a company. I think what it was was a company that was running, trying to recruit people and like an ad agency was running ads through podcasts and different forms of content, and somehow they ended up doing business with Desi Banks Co. Or allegedly. That's what's being. That's what's being said.
Aaron A. King Howard
So now, yeah, I'm looking at it now.
Jason Rodriguez
People are digging into like, did Desi know about this? Did he not know about this? If he didn't know about this, who's in charge of his business?
Mandy B
Oh, I ain't gonna hold you. I know his team. So I'm about to go ask. I'm about to be messy.
Jason Rodriguez
It's turned into.
Mandy B
Cause also a person I know ain't on his team no more.
Hunter Woodhull
So, yeah, I'm like, he's a friend.
Jason Rodriguez
He's a friend.
Hunter Woodhull
He's a friend to the.
Aaron A. King Howard
He's a friend.
Jason Rodriguez
He's a friend.
Hunter Woodhull
He's a friend. Wait, hold on. Let's say that too. Whoa, whoa. I am not gang gang. I do not bang gang bang.
Mandy B
Right?
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah. Do you gang gang, right?
Mandy B
Cause I be outside with my gang.
Jason Rodriguez
I quit my gang gang, like. And so Desi Bank's name is being circulated in places that you would never Politico in the Washington, the Washington Post in these places that you wouldn't expect to see his name because his company allegedly has ties to this international group. So now it's like a international incident almost, that has this American comedian, content creator, been helping to spread the message of some terroristic regime?
Mandy B
Like, oh, yikes.
Hunter Woodhull
Yeah, international law, possibly.
Mandy B
Oh, yikes.
Jason Rodriguez
Potentially. Do you see what. You see what I'm talking about?
Aaron A. King Howard
Yeah, I see it. I'm reading his comment. So the headline, google suspends ad account of Atlanta influencer used to recruit Iranian agents for the Mossad. And he put out a statement. He says here, stop believing bs. I hate that this happened to me because I don't even know what any of this is. People are really getting fooled for clickbait. Someone used my LLC without my knowledge. How? I don't know yet. I don't even know if half of what's being posted is real. But my team is digging into it right now. I have no idea who's doing this or why.
Jason Rodriguez
That's some scary shit. Like they might be. They could be looking at him like he's a spy.
Aaron A. King Howard
Like Pras.
Mandy B
Yeah, Iranian. You don't want to be linked. You don't want to be linked to.
Jason Rodriguez
What'S going on America and them right now. Like you don't want no parts of one of them. And like to Desi's point, like to, you know, shoot him some bail. Like he might not have anything to do with this. Again, who's running your business and who is approving ads and who's approving these. These different things. There's money that comes through. Where is it coming from?
Mandy B
And I think that goes back to what we're saying. When you align yourself with now these companies, even if you're a shareholder, even if you're getting equity in the business, like what are the decisions really being made and how do they align with what you want?
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah, I would just be careful because it could get spooky.
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Mandy B
Now I like what you said at the top. You said this could happen for anyone. Now in a different way, a TikTok creator by the name of Romeo Bingham made a new jingle for Dr. Pepper that was so catchy that the soda company licensed it in a major TV ad, which I've heard rumblings that this may be shown during Super Bowl. That's why she got this payout. Cause they wanted to use this jingle for a Super bowl ad. So we'll see it next week if it is or this weekend. Terms of the deal weren't disclosed, but they are saying that it was an upward of $2 million to use this jingle and this led to a fury of people creating jingles. Now Jason, I do want you if you could pull up just some of these jingles that have been created because People saw this $2 million payout and was like, oh bitch, all I gotta do is make a little jingle. A little jingle jingle niggas trying to.
Jason Rodriguez
Hit that watch for the lottery and.
Mandy B
I can hit that lotto.
Jason Rodriguez
Mm, hit that number.
Mandy B
So Jason, if you could pull up the clip with the other people creating.
Aaron A. King Howard
Their jingles yeah, let's go through them. Right? Here goes the first one.
Jason Rodriguez
Is that nigga in prison.
Hunter Woodhull
Got to get my hands on some popeyes.
Mandy B
Let's see the next one. Let's see the next one.
Aaron A. King Howard
Okay, we gotta make a theme song for Coca Cola, y'.
Jason Rodriguez
All.
Mandy B
I was sitting here thinking. I was like.
Aaron A. King Howard
I mean, Coca Cola need things, too.
Mandy B
Okay, so go like this. Y' all hear me out. Pop that top. Yeah, you know the code. One sip in, it's Coca Cola mode.
Jason Rodriguez
I like that. That's like a 90s jingle right there. I like that.
Mandy B
$2 million Mountain Dew. $2 million. Let's see the next one. Romeo, you mean to tell me that you made $2 million off of a jingle?
Jason Rodriguez
Jangle.
Mandy B
Pizza Hut, come front and center. What do you want for dinner?
Jason Rodriguez
Pizza Hut. A Pizza Hut pizza. Huh? A Pizza Hut. Call me when you're ready.
Mandy B
Okay, now, you know what? Oh, we got one more. Fresh lettuce, three cheeses, fresh dressing wrapped up in a tasty flour. I don't like it. Tortilla crispy chicken.
Hunter Woodhull
Oh, man.
Mandy B
All right, you know what? So I decided.
Jason Rodriguez
Nope.
Mandy B
Yes.
Hunter Woodhull
Here we go.
Mandy B
With her mom, I decided we were gonna have fun here as the Selective Ignorance Gang. Gang, gang. And I wanted us to give each other.
Hunter Woodhull
Oh, wow.
Mandy B
Either a product or a fast food chained restaurant that we think we could create a jingle for. Now, how we're gonna do this is I'm gonna throw just a random product or place to Jah, and maybe collectively we come up with one for both of us.
Jason Rodriguez
One for them. Okay.
Mandy B
And then, Jah, you gotta throw one at me.
Jason Rodriguez
Oh, yeah.
Mandy B
But because this is my show, we gonna save the best for last. Oh, no, I'm going last. I'm making y' all come up with the jiggles first. All right, all right. So, Jah, I'm gonna throw you, by the way. I'm gonna give y' all a little bit more time. Cause y' all a little older, your brain might take a little longer. So aking, I want you to create a jingle for Kleenex. Yep. The tissues. Because we're in Atlanta, I want you to create a jingle for American Deli.
Jason Rodriguez
Oh. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mandy B
And.
Aaron A. King Howard
At a pre written.
Mandy B
You had a pre written one for what?
Aaron A. King Howard
I had a pre written for Taco Bell.
Jason Rodriguez
He got bars.
Mandy B
Okay, okay. And because Jason is so old and said he has to write his bars, he don't freestyle.
Jason Rodriguez
He said, I write my rhymes.
Aaron A. King Howard
I'm have to look after BlackBerry.
Mandy B
Jason said he want to give us His Taco Bell jingle now, don't we? What's Taco Bell's jingle right now? Open late.
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah, Isn't it open late in the Taco Bell or toquero? Taco Bell to geto Taco Bell. I think that dog is.
Mandy B
Okay, well, Jason. Jason, of course he does Taco Bell with his Puerto Rican ass.
Jason Rodriguez
And when he said that, I was like. I was like, that's racist. But I like.
Mandy B
He came up with.
Aaron A. King Howard
I'll leave one with that. I was just trying to think of one real quick.
Jason Rodriguez
Fair enough.
Mandy B
Okay, so you got what is mine.
Jason Rodriguez
Oh, yours is Hooters.
Mandy B
Oh my God.
Aaron A. King Howard
That's a good one. That's a good one.
Mandy B
Okay, we gonna start with Jason since he wrote his down. So Jason Pockets, give us the jingle for Taco Bell.
Aaron A. King Howard
Okay, ready? Here we go. I gotta clear my eyes. Cause I'm still laughing over the other ones. Ready? 16 beers in the gut, Tequila shot once more. Been drinking so much all of my food turned cold Been partying so much I can barely see straight Hope that Taco Bell drive thru is open late.
Jason Rodriguez
Oh, black.
Mandy B
I hate it.
Aaron A. King Howard
Hit me with that.
Mandy B
What beat was that supposed to go on? Can we hit with?
Jason Rodriguez
It's regulators.
Hunter Woodhull
It's regulate.
Mandy B
Oh, it's regulate if you smoke like I smoke.
Hunter Woodhull
Thank you.
Jason Rodriguez
Like every day.
Mandy B
Can we get it with that? Could you?
Aaron A. King Howard
We got the two part.
Mandy B
You like read it off. I need that redone.
Aaron A. King Howard
You gonna make me do it again? I don't even got it planned. I'm trying to do it. Ready? Cause this is the Nate. This is the Nate dog part. So this is tough.
Jason Rodriguez
I got you. I got you.
Aaron A. King Howard
Yeah, right. Sixteen beers in the gut, Tequila shot once more. Been drinking so much all of my food turned cold Been partying so much I can barely see straight Hope that Taco Bell drive thru is open late.
Jason Rodriguez
And if you smoke like I smoke.
Mandy B
Let Baboni keep his job. You are not gonna be for Baboni with this. Okay?
Aaron A. King Howard
Yeah.
Mandy B
All right. AK Kleenex. I need that Kleenex.
Hunter Woodhull
Damn. I ain't got no.
Mandy B
Come on.
Aaron A. King Howard
I need it from the top.
Mandy B
I need it from the top.
Hunter Woodhull
Can it be provocative?
Mandy B
Of course it can.
Aaron A. King Howard
You gotta sell what you can sell, my brother.
Hunter Woodhull
Gold tissue, right?
Mandy B
You say it's for tissue? Yep. How you making tissue promotion?
Hunter Woodhull
Here we go.
Aaron A. King Howard
This issue, this.
Hunter Woodhull
Wipe your ass, wipe your nose, wipe your crotch and wipe your toes.
Mandy B
Kleenex.
Hunter Woodhull
Kleenex.
Aaron A. King Howard
Whatever ads we had running against this episode, change it.
Hunter Woodhull
Shout out to Kleenex. I mean, listen Bruh.
Mandy B
Okay, right now we're not even getting $10 for these jingles, okay?
Jason Rodriguez
I thought she was going to take the easy way out. And do. They Snot Like Us.
Aaron A. King Howard
Oh, that's a good one.
Jason Rodriguez
Remix.
Hunter Woodhull
They're not like us. They sound like us.
Jason Rodriguez
Kleenex.
Hunter Woodhull
They sound like. They sound like us.
Mandy B
That is crazy.
Hunter Woodhull
Let me do it. Let me do it so I can put the beat underneath. They snot like us. They not like us. They not like us. They sound like us. They sound like us. They sound like us. Kleenex remix.
Jason Rodriguez
Cedric, I hear you blow your nose.
Mandy B
Keep going, keep going. Hold on. I wanted you to get a. Come on. Rhyme with nose.
Jason Rodriguez
I hear you blow your nose. I heard you're always in Toronto with a cold.
Mandy B
I'm not playing with you. Okay, let's get. Let's get. American deli For y' all that do not know American deli.
Jason Rodriguez
American deli is where cherished Atlanta establishment.
Mandy B
It end is where you get wings, of course, yes.
Hunter Woodhull
They sell sandwiches. Dude, I never had American.
Mandy B
I only go there. You've never had American deli?
Jason Rodriguez
Oh, yeah.
Aaron A. King Howard
You're about to go there now after you hear this jingle.
Mandy B
Yeah.
Jason Rodriguez
Tilapia sandwich.
Hunter Woodhull
Come on.
Mandy B
Okay.
Jason Rodriguez
American deli. American deli. Are you riding through the hood? Are you smoking on some good. You saying what the helly need American deli? Want some lemon pepper wet?
Hunter Woodhull
What?
Jason Rodriguez
Gotta put it on a set.
Hunter Woodhull
Sit, sit.
Jason Rodriguez
Want some crinkle French fries. Make it thick. Thick thighs. Hey, hey, hey.
Hunter Woodhull
Yeah.
Mandy B
By the way, that was hard. By the way. You brought up ass crack. You brought up tequila shots, and you were bringing up weed. None of these will.
Hunter Woodhull
I think they will go in jingles. Y'.
Mandy B
All.
Aaron A. King Howard
Listen, man, we're trying to expand market.
Hunter Woodhull
We revolutionizing the jingle game.
Jason Rodriguez
People want authenticity, right? People want authenticity to talk to the people the way the people talk. That's how you sell products.
Mandy B
Okay? For mine, by the way, I hate that you gave me a business that is going out of business. You said, Mandy, you make enough money. I don't even want to give you a way to make money off this because them niggas is bankrupt. Hooters is gone. Maybe he's coming back. It was Rip Hooters.
Jason Rodriguez
Are they gone? Gone? It's got to be. It's some Hooters in the.
Aaron A. King Howard
Just chapter 11. They holding on.
Mandy B
No, no. I mean, they just closed the one on Peachtree where Drake met.
Hunter Woodhull
Bring him back. Drake bring him back.
Mandy B
Who he met on Peach Street.
Jason Rodriguez
Well, in Atlanta, I can see you closing on like in Atlanta, there's a lot of strip clubs here. You don't necessarily have to have.
Mandy B
You don't need to go to Hooters.
Jason Rodriguez
For beach street titties.
Mandy B
So popular. I was about to say, titties will.
Jason Rodriguez
Never go out, man.
Aaron A. King Howard
Woman, they'll never go out of style.
Jason Rodriguez
From coast to coast, around the world, any time zone, everybody love titties.
Mandy B
I mean, I. And here y' all go. Making me also lean into the improper way of making a jingle. I was going, hoo, hoo, pull over there. Hoo, hoo, pull over.
Jason Rodriguez
I'm not mad at that, though.
Mandy B
Hoo, hoo, pull up.
Jason Rodriguez
Love them.
Mandy B
Hey, hoop, hoop, we at hooda. Hey, hoop, hoop, we at h. That's all I could think of was the hoop. Hoop, baby.
Jason Rodriguez
No, and then. Hold on.
Mandy B
And then the visual you got.
Jason Rodriguez
You got to have the titties. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Peck jump. The. You got to have the titties jump. You get Terry Crews, by the way.
Mandy B
By the way, there was a lovely lady. Do not know her name, but she works at Cheetah. She is easily 65 years old.
Jason Rodriguez
Oh, that sounds about right for Cheetah.
Mandy B
She puts a shot in her titties, and when she serves it to you, she makes her titties jump while the shot is right here. And you take that and literally $20, $20 a shot. Cause she make her. And they're old. Big old titties.
Jason Rodriguez
And these are white titties.
Mandy B
White titties.
Jason Rodriguez
White titty titties.
Mandy B
And I would never do it from a white woman any other time, but that bitch make these titties. She make it go to the song that's on.
Hunter Woodhull
Slide to the left. Slide to the right.
Mandy B
Shout out to the left. Shout out to shot lady and Cheetah, bruh. It's crazy.
Jason Rodriguez
Wait, are these her titties? Are these refurbished titties?
Mandy B
They big.
Aaron A. King Howard
I assume they gotta be natural in.
Mandy B
The titties that is big and old.
Jason Rodriguez
Okay?
Mandy B
But she got these muscles. She literally. She could literally make them go like this. Like these titties. I said, oh, my God, bitch. I wanna my titties. Don't do that. I say it all the time. The reason for going to a strip club is to humble myself. This is why n cheat, bitch. You can't do that. You can't do that. You can't do that.
Aaron A. King Howard
Damn.
Mandy B
Let me not keep a man.
Aaron A. King Howard
A lot of talents. A lot of talents come to the floor.
Mandy B
There's a lot of talent.
Jason Rodriguez
So you're pro.
Hunter Woodhull
So you Understand?
Mandy B
No, I'm not proud. I'm pro. Cheat, but I'm pro. I understand. You want.
Hunter Woodhull
For mental health reasons, I thought.
Mandy B
No, I understand. Ladies, if you ever wanna understand, you really wanna get.
Aaron A. King Howard
This was just a moment to champion. Literally.
Mandy B
Ladies, if you wanna understand why you are never enough.
Hunter Woodhull
Ah, to the right.
Mandy B
Nothing you do will keep a man from wandering astray. Just go to the strip club. Look at the way they bend, the way they shake the chest, how they pick up things, the beauty, the body, like it's an baby. You'll understand. Like Beyonce wasn't enough. Okay, we are never enough as just a solo individual. But if you go to a strip club, especially in Atlanta, it'll allow you to understand life a little better. I'm just gonna put that out there. Just gonna put that out there. But baby crazy. Anyway, let's get into Celebrity Save the Darndest Things. Or do we wanna do. You know what? Let's do it real quick. Let's do it real quick. Only because I like when we get to educate people. And then we'll get into Celebrity Save the Darndest Things, where we're really just gonna talk shit about everybody. Just to update you guys again, last week I talked about Kai Sinat. You know, in my mind, still performative, but reading on stream. And it led to a lot of conversations and backlash around literacy and this being a good thing. Shout out to Trev. Read me for filth in the discord. So again, if you hate my takes and you too, want your opinion to get directly to me, join us on Patreon patreon.com withmandyb Trev Let me know. He hated my take on Kaisa. Not last week, however. Wanted to let y' all know what the government is doing to keep us illiterate. Arkansas recently passed a bill, a law, actually, that goes into effect February 1st. So this week, where they want to keep contraband out of Arkansas prisons, and somehow they have added print media, so books and magazines are now considered contraband for Arkansas. They do have something where librarians will vet whatever books are like in the prisons, but it's considered contraband for it to be, like, sent out. Mind you, little backstory on me. I had a boyfriend when I was 18 years old. I was in high school and his brother went to jail. I don't know if y' all know my history, but I have been featured in two straight stunt magazines. And when I was in Straight Stuntin, I did not know that those magazines were being sent to prisons. So this was K. Slay magazine, Sticky paper.
Hunter Woodhull
Rest in peace, K. Slay.
Mandy B
I didn't shout out Rest in peace. K. Slay did not know until my boyfriend was like, do you know, like, who's looking at these magazines? And I was like, nigga, mind you, I'm thinking it's like King. You can get those in grocery stores, Kroger's. I'm thinking, like, it's on the shelves where magazines are sold. I did not know that Kay Slay at the time was sending boxes of these magazines for inmates to just jack off on.
Jason Rodriguez
Inmate number 696-969-6969 was in there getting baby.
Mandy B
But yeah, so it's interesting because of course you have that, which I understand could be considered like paraphernalia because you know what men are doing when they read those. But it's interesting to me that they're going as far as to like, other magazines, books and things of that nature. Like, it was interesting to me now.
Jason Rodriguez
So just an update on that. I'm just seeing it right now. This literally just happened two hours ago. Apparently there is a hold. It's gonna happen still. There's a hold on this policy. This is.
Aaron A. King Howard
What is this?
Jason Rodriguez
This is 5News Online is reporting that there's an administrative rule that needs be to. To be updated before this policy goes into effect. And there's no timeline right now for when it will begin.
Mandy B
So they must have changed because it was supposed to go into effect February 1st.
Jason Rodriguez
February 1st. Yeah. They're saying as of today, some rule needs to change. I don't. They don't specify what that is. They just call it an administrative rule that needs to be updated before this can be implemented. So it's still gonna happen. They just have to finagle the bagel.
Mandy B
Also curious. Now, I know I see a lot of movies and they be hiding weapons and books and all that shit. It's interesting cause it does say that most inmates have tablets which will allow them arrange to download books. So I wonder if it's a safety thing too.
Aaron A. King Howard
I think it's a safety thing. I think part of it is like if you send a book directly to them or if you send something directly to them, maybe you're hiding something or.
Mandy B
You'Re hiding something in the book.
Hunter Woodhull
So maybe the administrative thing is the amount of pages.
Mandy B
Well. Cause it's interesting because what's the saying? You want to hide something in plain sight, Put it in a book.
Hunter Woodhull
Literally.
Mandy B
You know what I mean? Put it in a book.
Jason Rodriguez
Only reason I found this kind of weird Is because I just assumed that at prisons, they are inspecting anything that comes in the mail through the door. They're opening packages and all that, too. Now I get it. Maybe there could be a lot of packages to open and go through, but that's somebody's job there to look at all of this, to make sure there's no contraband in it. So I didn't fully understand why all of a sudden books were like, they were unable to do regular security. They should be doing on every other package anyway. But I guess they feel like.
Aaron A. King Howard
But I think that might be the thing, right? Because, like, now it's going to be vetted by librarians. So let's say, like, the sinister version of it is, you know, these, like, Stepford type wives, white women vetted. And so, like, they'll cut off a list of, like, what goes in and comes out. So it's going to be like, no, no black authors from this time period or no this or whatever.
Mandy B
Like, yeah, damn, we not going to get no more Muslims bred out of prison.
Jason Rodriguez
Exactly.
Hunter Woodhull
Right?
Mandy B
Okay, that was probably. See? Ignorant.
Jason Rodriguez
Okay, wow.
Mandy B
My bad.
Hunter Woodhull
That's just.
Mandy B
What? What?
Hunter Woodhull
You got it.
Mandy B
Okay, listen, listen. We'll get.
Jason Rodriguez
Oh, you want to take your Shahada, huh? Nope.
Hunter Woodhull
I thought she was going to.
Jason Rodriguez
I thought she was going. You know.
Mandy B
My man. Listen, listen. Anyways, I say the darnest things, and so do celebrities. Okay? Where we want to start here first, you know what? Coming off of controversial things, let's get into the Kanye apology.
Jason Rodriguez
Kanye.
Mandy B
And now let's get into Cameron, because.
Jason Rodriguez
I don't give a fuck.
Hunter Woodhull
I like that.
Aaron A. King Howard
I like that.
Mandy B
That's how much I do not like, first off, there's just so much going on right now. This is top tier narcissism. Oh, my God. We are dealing with ice. We are dealing with the orange Cheeto. We are dealing with people being killed in Minnesota. We are dealing with so much happening right now. We also being recognized in spaces that we fought. So Golden Globes just happened. We get Oscars. They just nominated 16 nominations for sinners. We're in a place where there's just so many other things to talk about. And Kanye's like, but you're not talking about me.
Jason Rodriguez
But what about me?
Hunter Woodhull
He's dominated our fucking ear holes and our visuals for the last 10 years.
Mandy B
Your holes got barred by Kanye.
Aaron A. King Howard
Dominated by.
Jason Rodriguez
You should have all that power, right?
Mandy B
Like.
Hunter Woodhull
Like he's been dominating this shit for a minute. So it's like, all right, dude, listen. We fuck with you, get help. We riding for you. But we got other shit to worry about, bro.
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah.
Hunter Woodhull
If any big other shit.
Mandy B
I thought it was so interesting. Well, it was interesting. So Kanye decided to take a full page ad in the Wall Street Journal and he apologized to black and Jewish folks.
Hunter Woodhull
But second time.
Mandy B
Hold on.
Hunter Woodhull
Second time, too.
Mandy B
Go ahead, give it to me. Cause you did write about this. This.
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah, I did write about this for bossip. So my thing with the apology. Well, hey, I'll start here. Hey. Yeah, we do have. It's poorly timed and nothing else poorly timed. Like. And I will say I. I don't doubt the sincerity of what he's saying from the standpoint of, like, it's easy to understand that, yeah, he got into this accident, that they probably had some brain trauma that didn't help. Whatever mental health issues he already got going on. I get all of that. At this point, the damage has kind of been done. So, you know, if this is him waking up from a hangover, this is also his like, 5011 apologies. So, like, who, like, who knows really even where to place this thing? But yeah, we got other shit going on. This doesn't really matter to anything.
Mandy B
Well, and they're saying his apologies have been lined up with announcements of products or albums or concerts or shows.
Jason Rodriguez
And even to that, I'll say, I don't think that I understand how it looks. I don't think these apologies help launch any of those products. I think the people who fuck with Kanye will always fuck with Kanye. The people who don't, don't. And you saying, I'm sorry, is it going to change nobody's mind to sell no product? So if that's. If that is his thinking behind it, that's just a bad marketing, because that ain't. That's not going to work. Yeah, but my one issue with the apology is that he spent the. Granted, he said terrible things about Jewish people. He should apologize to them. But I just felt like he gave them a little bit more sauce in their apology that he gave black people for all the shit he did to us and shit that we feel a type of way about. Cause his line for black people was basically like, george Bush don't like black people. Y' all fuck with me for so long. But no. And the apology is like, oh, y' all fuck with me so long. Damn, that's fucked up. I'm sorry. I love us. And then that was it. And then for the Jewish apology, it was like, I'm not anti Semitic. I love y'. All. And all this whole breakdown of what was going on, and I was just like, damn. Like, we got like, he gave them a hot song. He gave us a hot line. And I was just like, damn. All right, cool. That's just what it is, I suppose.
Mandy B
But I'm not gonna lie. Did not care. His apology means nothing to me.
Jason Rodriguez
That's where most people are falling for.
Mandy B
And again, like, so the fuck what? I mean, his music hasn't even been that great.
Jason Rodriguez
It hasn't.
Mandy B
I mean, if he drops the slides for $20 and they look fine, I still buy them. Like, I just get what. You know what I mean?
Hunter Woodhull
There's a way he could do this if he has music coming out, right? You tease people with some new sounds, right? And then that's. That's the lore. It's like, oh, shit, yeah, he got some new fly shit, right?
Aaron A. King Howard
But is there a way he could do this, though?
Hunter Woodhull
Well, he could. He could just talk to somebody for 10 minutes. It's like, hey, yeah, I'm back. And then slowly do the rollout where he's explaining about all his mental, physical, whatever it is going on, and that's it. But I feel like that probably wouldn't work either, because we've probably dealt with that three or four times already.
Mandy B
I'm curious to see how forgiving we are in terms of musicians now. Only because we have completely threw away and discarded Dababy, but that nigga just dropped some heat. So I am curious to see how this song kind of hits because it's a good record and he's dropping a new project. And so I'm curious to see in this economy of. In this state of sensitivity where once we say we done with somebody, we done. I'm just curious to know if that is cap in 2026 to see if we have a resurgence of Dababy. I mean, like, I'm curious to see why not.
Jason Rodriguez
I mean, you know, it's a different time. I was always one to say, you're always one song away from being back now in 2026 that is maybe a little bit tempered because, yeah, I was.
Aaron A. King Howard
Gonna say it's becoming harder.
Jason Rodriguez
It's becoming harder to do that now because people are standing on whatever dislike they have for you. Whatever you violated, they're standing on that. But I did just think about something as we're sitting here talking about this, where this apology came from, because to me, it was kind of random. And, yeah, I know people will say, oh, maybe he has an album coming out, or whatever. But the more I think about it, this might be A response to the Manosphere clown car that just got hemmed up in Miami between Andrew Tate and Myron Gaines and Nick Fuentes. I saw that they're in the Sprinter. They're all going to the clubs. All My niggas, How Hitler and all.
Hunter Woodhull
This wild shit, which was an unreleased YAY record.
Jason Rodriguez
Which was an unreleased YE record. It wasn't ever released, but he did this shit.
Mandy B
I love that.
Jason Rodriguez
So now that I'm thinking about it, this as much as anything else, might be a response to that more than even an album coming out or some new Yeezy merch coming out. Because if he is in a place where, let's just say he does, he has waken up from his manic state and he feels fucked up and this video comes out, if these three clowns who are part of, like, the denigration of the public discourse around anything that's actually serious, he might actually be looking at it like, damn, this is my legacy. This is what I've done.
Mandy B
Yeah.
Hunter Woodhull
Bingo.
Jason Rodriguez
I've inserted this into American culture, and now these niggas are running around talking about Heil Hitler.
Mandy B
I mean, to me, there was someone left out of the apology to me, which would have made it seem like he meant it for real. There was no apology to his ex wife, the mother of his children or his kids.
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah.
Mandy B
Specifically when they've put their neck out to apologize for you. When you've done all the shit that you've done to disgrace them.
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah. Say that.
Mandy B
And if you're gonna apologize to black people who are strangers to you, apologize to the Jewish community. When you've had people actually try to apologize on your behalf, you also apologize to the people that are really directly impacted by your behavior, by your actions.
Jason Rodriguez
He should have said all.
Mandy B
And so to me, if you didn't.
Jason Rodriguez
Then what is it?
Mandy B
Yeah, what is this?
Jason Rodriguez
He should have said Jay Z and Beyonce's name, Blue Ivy's name. Like he talked crazy about that.
Mandy B
That's what I'm saying.
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah, like you should have said all those people.
Hunter Woodhull
And I think he was spot on.
Jason Rodriguez
Specifically who you damaged and what the apology.
Mandy B
I'm not gonna lie. Then you're right. I didn't even think to make that connection.
Hunter Woodhull
That resurfaced, and it put him. His name back in after he holding hands with the rabbi recently right now, because they don't know the timeline when these records come out.
Jason Rodriguez
They don't.
Hunter Woodhull
So they'll hear, oh, my gosh, what is this?
Jason Rodriguez
I thought he's like, whoa, no.
Mandy B
Into the.
Hunter Woodhull
Yeah.
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Well, let's get into. I'll say a quick thing actually, because we're not going to really get much into it because I don't feel any way about him. But this is also me leaning into my hypocrisy. So I just want to be real hypocritical right now.
Jason Rodriguez
Okay?
Mandy B
So last week, World Boxing association deemed Gervonta Tank Davis the lightweight champion in recess. This is after a warrant was issued for the boxer by Miami police in connection to October 2025 incident relating to domestic violence. Now, he does have a history of assault in Florida, with the most recent occurring in July of last year. He was accused of hitting the mother of his children. Now, this means that they are removing his title as of right now. But it also means that if he's cleared of charges or once cleared of charges, his next fight will be a title shot against whoever becomes the WBA lightweight champion. Now, Mm.
Jason Rodriguez
Mm.
Mandy B
When I first read this, I said, good, take that N title. Cause he out here hitting women. And then I was wearing a Chris Brown shirt.
Aaron A. King Howard
Damn.
Mandy B
And bitch, I go to all his concerts and said, y' all better forget that, man. And the Grammys better dominate him, which he is nominated again. And so there is this bias because also I like, I love Christopher Maurice Brown and he could do no wrong in my eye. But when I saw this, immediately I was like, yeah, that's what consequences.
Jason Rodriguez
Mm.
Mandy B
But I guess when reading it too, the fact that if he's cleared of these charges that he can have a title shot again. It is also in relation to then Chris Brown now finally being nominated again for a Grammy with his song with Bryson Tiller. So there's been forgiveness, there's been charges. You know, he's done his community service and things like that. But yeah, I had that quick little.
Jason Rodriguez
Well, I mean, the thing about it is is that, like, who knows when he's gonna get to defend that title? Cause right now, to my knowledge, he's still on the run.
Mandy B
Oh, damn.
Aaron A. King Howard
And he hasn't been arrested as of a recording time.
Jason Rodriguez
As of recording, as of this record recording, he has not been found. He is on the run from the feds. So, like, by the time they catch his ass adjudicate this kid.
Mandy B
But apparently his next Fight gonna be against Miami pd.
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like.
Mandy B
Like, it ain't gonna be against the lightweight champion. It's gonna be against the Popos. It's gonna be against 12.
Jason Rodriguez
So like, there's no. It could be years before he fights again. So, like, by the thing.
Mandy B
And then I wonder if even the World Boxing association wants to be associated with whatever.
Jason Rodriguez
With whatever happens.
Mandy B
Happens.
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah.
Mandy B
Oh, wow. Okay.
Aaron A. King Howard
I think, I think too, like, this would probably be like another episode. But like the, like, you know, Chris Brown is like independent contractor, right? Whereas like Tank Davis, he's an artist. Part of a.
Mandy B
He's in a.
Aaron A. King Howard
He's a part of an association. And I think like when we talk about like the Aiden Ross's and kind of like a lot of these other people that we talk about, like, you know, they have sort of like this independent power base that allows them to get away with shit, you know what I mean? Like, or just lessen the consequences of their actions.
Mandy B
Valid. I mean, I guess we can compare this as well to the NFL, which, I mean, by the way, this is not a sports pod.
Jason Rodriguez
This is not a sports pod.
Mandy B
This is not a sports pod. You stacking sports ever? I don't know if y' all saw the conspiracies about. There's a photo posted by the NFL back before the season and it has the Seahawks.
Hunter Woodhull
Yeah, yeah, I saw that.
Mandy B
And the Patriots all over.
Hunter Woodhull
They're looking at the table.
Mandy B
But also Safon Diggs trial for domestic violence and beating a woman was also pushed to after super bowl, which led people to believe. Oh yeah, the Patriots going to the Super Bowl. Cause why else is this. The trial was supposed to take place in January.
Hunter Woodhull
Is there a script?
Mandy B
There's a script.
Aaron A. King Howard
Damn.
Jason Rodriguez
Go Seahawks.
Mandy B
Listen.
Jason Rodriguez
Go Seahawks.
Aaron A. King Howard
Word.
Mandy B
Listen, by the way, by the way, I know you in Jersey, but you rep New York. Did you not see that they lit the Empire State building Patriots colors?
Aaron A. King Howard
I did see that.
Hunter Woodhull
Well, look.
Mandy B
How dare they?
Aaron A. King Howard
But it does that. They'll do Celtics colors if they wanted. Like the eastern concert.
Hunter Woodhull
Yeah, they do.
Aaron A. King Howard
They do.
Hunter Woodhull
Yeah, they're very Empire State.
Aaron A. King Howard
Yeah, Empire State building.
Hunter Woodhull
They just showing.
Mandy B
That's crazy. Which, by the way, I had a friend who dated a guy who worked at some hedge fund company, uh, oh, some wild shit. And he came over and did some dope ass shit. So there's an app in New York if you work for this company that you can literally on your phone change the lights to whatever. So he said, the niggas at this Company used to take girls on dates where they could see the Empire State Building, and we would do it from my balcony. So he was like, nah, give me a color right now. What's your favorite color? Mind you, we're looking at the Empire State Building from my balcony in New York, and I'm like, ballin' purple.
Jason Rodriguez
Mm.
Mandy B
Literally, he'd press the app, and the top of the Empire State Building would turn purple. And I'd be like, nah, man. No way. No way. And we went through everyone on the balcony, and he would change up the color. So he was like, yo, there's this restaurant where the guys take all their dates to. Cause, nigga, you get to control, and you get to control the fucking Empire State Building. Color.
Hunter Woodhull
It's not a bad thing. What's the reward?
Mandy B
You said, what now?
Hunter Woodhull
What's the reward for that?
Mandy B
Nigga, my pussy jumped.
Hunter Woodhull
What did that do for you?
Jason Rodriguez
That's what I'm saying.
Mandy B
The beauty.
Jason Rodriguez
I just changed the building to the.
Mandy B
Color that you want. It just. It gave this man, and he wasn't my man, but my nigga was like.
Jason Rodriguez
Hey, yo, yo, yo, chill with all that color changing.
Mandy B
It was like. I was like, oh, this is cute. Cute. Yeah.
Jason Rodriguez
That's not a bad flex.
Mandy B
This is cute.
Jason Rodriguez
That's not a bad flex.
Mandy B
Aight, last topic. Let's get into it. Cam' Ron recently had a conversation with his ex, Callie o', Day, on his talk with Flea show on Revolt in Mid Episode. Somehow this bitch made me agree with goddamn Cam'. Ron. And I said, who is this bitch anyways? Let's play the clip of what took place before we dive into it.
Hunter Woodhull
I don't need nobody protect and provide for me.
Jason Rodriguez
I'm not looking for that.
Hunter Woodhull
I'm just trying.
Mandy B
You're a man. I wouldn't expect that. So as a woman, if I share my body with a man, I shouldn't expect him to want to protect and provide for me. Daughter. That's what you would teach your daughter?
Hunter Woodhull
I'm sorry.
Mandy B
She just happens with a man that doesn't want to protect and provide for her. Like what?
Hunter Woodhull
The problem is this. You want to protect.
Mandy B
You think men and women are equal?
Hunter Woodhull
No, what I'm trying to Selena you is this for me. I rather invest in my female than give my female.
Jason Rodriguez
And that's the problem. Never invested in me because you had bad investments. That's why you're in nursing school.
Mandy B
That's not why I'm in nursing school. I've been working on my nursing degree since 2019.
Hunter Woodhull
Why?
Mandy B
You don't have it yet? I opened the business to help me get through nursing school, which was a.
Jason Rodriguez
Passive income, which was a bad investment.
Hunter Woodhull
She could have walked it back.
Mandy B
The cricket, the cricket, the cricket, the cricket.
Jason Rodriguez
This nigga can't.
Hunter Woodhull
Yo. She tried to throw the daughter.
Mandy B
You wouldn't do that to your daughter. Yeah, yeah. No, I didn't like that.
Hunter Woodhull
We waited for her.
Mandy B
Here's the thing, too. As women, we have to understand and get to a place where we watch our tone and delivery. And I think here we saw a clear example of Cam keeping calm and her making it more emotional than it needed to be. I also think it's interesting for her to say I started a business to get myself through nursing school. Here's the thing. Nursing school, for those of you who don't know, one or two years for nursing school. She's been in it since 2019. As of today is 2026. She still does not have that nursing degree. So I agree there was a bad investment made. But also, this idea that you want to start a business to get passive income to pay for an actual degree. I've told y' all a lot of this times, stay with your day job, get that degree, and have that degree and that source of money pay for you investing, you putting everything in. Businesses don't just guarantee passive income. That's another, like, thing. And maybe Cam was able to actually.
Aaron A. King Howard
See, like, oh, don't nobody want to buy your candles.
Mandy B
I don't think is a good investment.
Jason Rodriguez
A business is a liability until it's an asset.
Aaron A. King Howard
Ooh.
Jason Rodriguez
And is a business is a liability until it's an asset.
Mandy B
You can write some of this damn podcast A liability. This podcast is a liability, y'.
Tara Davis Woodhull
All.
Jason Rodriguez
Like, that's a cost. You're in the. You're in the red until you're in the black. Like, that's just what it is. So. Yeah, I don't. I don't understand that, but I had to acknowledge this first. The way Cam said, my female is crazy. To me, that sounded nuts. I mean, I'd rather invest my female than give my female.
Mandy B
I mean, talk like this.
Jason Rodriguez
They're like, what?
Mandy B
I don't like that it was giving caveman because you know better.
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah, that sounded real, Geico. It sounded real. Like casino man. Like, sounded real.
Hunter Woodhull
But part of it, you know, he. He has a hint of sarcasm in there.
Mandy B
Yeah.
Hunter Woodhull
100% their exes.
Jason Rodriguez
Right?
Hunter Woodhull
He knows.
Aaron A. King Howard
That's a polite way to say.
Jason Rodriguez
She was clearly triggered by whatever the Congress. Yeah, she was triggered by The. That's where.
Hunter Woodhull
That's where that her triggering was, actually. It sounds like she had some unresolved issues.
Mandy B
She was mad Cam ain't giving her more money.
Jason Rodriguez
They've had that argument several times. That was not the first time they.
Hunter Woodhull
And she made a choice to get up on that platform, too.
Jason Rodriguez
Well, yeah, so. But the mistake she made was, like, she walked into the. The nursing school line, though.
Hunter Woodhull
Oh, yeah. And she can't take it back.
Jason Rodriguez
Did smack into that. Why don't you say that to Cameron?
Mandy B
Why would you say that publicly?
Jason Rodriguez
That's crazy.
Hunter Woodhull
Like, my thing is knowing.
Mandy B
Knowing that these conversations were probably being had already. Girl, you want to take this on a podcast to the streets?
Aaron A. King Howard
Yeah, that's what I want to ask. Did y' all see the. Did y' all see when the game was on with Shanice hairstyle?
Mandy B
Oh, no. That was even more embarrassing.
Aaron A. King Howard
That was the same thing. It's like conversations they had in private that they relitigating in front of everybody.
Mandy B
I'm not gonna lie. Cause the game is the homie.
Aaron A. King Howard
Uh.
Hunter Woodhull
Oh, the game.
Mandy B
Yeah. That's the homie. But I knew I ain't make no baby with him, so hold on. I think he a cool guy. I don't know about red rope, partner.
Jason Rodriguez
Red rope.
Aaron A. King Howard
It's just the idea of having these conversations.
Mandy B
Shanice talked about the things that she wanted, had the baby by him. Also the embarrassment of him at his big age saying, well, you a baddie. So we, as men, look at baddies and just wanna make them baby mamas.
Hunter Woodhull
We have no desire.
Mandy B
That was crazy. But also, as a woman who is 30, you're no longer a spring chicken. He has three kids with another woman that he never made a wife.
Jason Rodriguez
Mm.
Mandy B
So you again, women have this delusion that they're gonna be the ones they're gonna change. And also, if you've had enough conversations with him, girl, who did you think he was gonna change by bringing a baby into this world? You thought he was gonna turn into a whole new man. Like, if you talk to game, game is game.
Hunter Woodhull
She knew.
Mandy B
She knew. So there's also a bit of, like, lack of empathy for me.
Aaron A. King Howard
I have a question, though. But do they know, though? Cause, like, with her and with Cam's girl, like, but when you're in a relationship, you're clearly like rose tinted lenses. The way you're looking at.
Mandy B
She not a rose tinted lens. When your mama done dated an NBA player, baseball player, you got that player. NFL player. Like, she done been. She done been around.
Aaron A. King Howard
Yeah.
Mandy B
She got enough game to give.
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah, like, I just feel like, listen, I don't. You can't. We'll never know what type of conversations they had, how they found romance or whatever the fuck they want to call it, but, like, you should go into those situations just being like, all right, he's gonna try to take advantage of me. I'm gonna try to take advantage of him. And we even exchange is no robbery.
Mandy B
Oh, my God.
Jason Rodriguez
Like, you can't go into a relationship that might be it, like any of these niggas and feel like, oh, but he really loves me and I really love him. You shouldn't even be entertaining that kind of shit with these type of niggas. You should just be going in there saying, I'm gonna have a good time. He's gonna have a good time. I'm gonna give up some pussy, he's gonna give up some money. We're gonna go on vacations and hang out for a little while. And when this shit ends, it ends. And I gotta make sure I don't get pregnant and get stuck with this nigga and his bullshit.
Mandy B
Well, the even exchange, too, with a man with money and power, often is the assumption that you gonna get some money. It was very clear by what Shanice was saying that she wanted some level of emotional intelligence and protection from game that he wasn't offering.
Jason Rodriguez
And I'm not saying she doesn't deserve that. I'm just saying you're gonna get that from. From him.
Mandy B
Like, listen, listen. Yeah, we talked about. We talk. We talked about when he was on Kirk Franklin thing. He's working through it.
Aaron A. King Howard
He's working through it.
Mandy B
He's working through it.
Aaron A. King Howard
By the time he's 60, he'll get there.
Mandy B
He's working through it.
Jason Rodriguez
Work, work on player, work on.
Mandy B
Well, y', all, this was fun.
Jason Rodriguez
It was.
Mandy B
Hope y' all enjoy.
Jason Rodriguez
Did you even tell. Did you even, like, give people. They probably looking at this like, what? This is this nice.
Aaron A. King Howard
Where y' all at?
Jason Rodriguez
This swanky little set.
Mandy B
Where y' all at?
Hunter Woodhull
What's going on?
Mandy B
Most. Most of our listens come from audio, cuz I'm audio first. But I'm hoping that you guys do check out the full length video on Patreon or YouTube. Yeah, cuz, baby, we got our own set. Hon.
Jason Rodriguez
You are nice. Look, you did a good job. Thank you.
Aaron A. King Howard
Custom, right?
Mandy B
I'm getting ready for Netflix. Okay. Netflix better be like, hey, we need to see. We need to see man on. On TV in the 4K. But yeah, we are now at My own set brought Full Court Media Studios down to the A. So yeah, really excited and hopefully if you guys want I'll maybe drop a, drop an address for y' all to send some fan stuff. I would love to fill up this set with more dope shit. But yeah, really excited. We have a new home and hope you guys enjoy nonetheless, y'. All. This has been an episode of Selective Ignorance where curiosity lives, controversy thrives, and conversations matter. See you puss ass hoes next week. Bye. Selective Ignorance, a production of the Black Effect Podcast Network. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen is your favorite shows.
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Thanks for tuning in to Selective Ignorance of Mandy B. Selective Ignorance is executive produced by Mandy B. And it's a full Court Media Studio production with lead producers Jason Rodriguez, that's me, and Aaron A. King Howard. Now do us a favor and rate, subscribe, comment and share wherever you get your favorite podcast. And be sure to follow Selective Ignorance on Instagram @Selective_Ignorant. And of course, if you're not following our host, Mandy B, make sure you're following her at Full Court Pumps. Now if you want the full video experience of Selective Ignorance, make sure you subscribe to the Patreon. It's patreon.com SelectiveIgnorance.
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Date: February 1, 2026
Podcast Host: Mandy B (Black Effect Podcast Network & iHeartRadio)
Co-Hosts: Jason Rodriguez, Aaron A. King Howard, Hunter Woodhull
This episode of "Selective Ignorance" is a lively, candid discussion led by Mandy B and her co-hosts, examining quirky and serious issues shaping culture and society in 2026. The hosts dissect how business and misogyny intersect, the creator economy’s evolution, new laws banning books in prisons, and the unexpected economy around viral brand jingles. The freewheeling tone blends personal anecdotes, social commentary, and irreverent humor, delivering insightful takes on contemporary controversies.
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This episode is an engaging snapshot of the 2026 Black American experience, weaving current events, personal foibles, and societal shifts into a bracing narrative. By tackling everything from ice storm ignorance to misogyny-driven markets, from influencer legal snafus to the price of a catchy jingle, the hosts create an immersive, hilarious, and thought-provoking listen.