← The Breakfast Club
The Breakfast Club
The Breakfast Club BEST OF - Black Effect - Tezlyn Figaro, Stephen Jackson and Matt Barnes, John Hope Bryant and Alex Rodriguez + More
01:17:54
Loading summary
Transcript1 lines
- [00:00]
Carlos Miller
Life is an act of constant reinvention. That's true for you and for cars. Nissan reimagined the all new Kicks around you. The Bose Personal plus sound system with speakers in the headrest keeps you in the groove, while The Nissan Safety Shield360 technologies keep you safe. If Nissan reinvented the Kicks, you can reinvent yourself. Drive the all new reimagined Nissan Kicks today. Available Features compatible device service and consumer activation of Nissan Connect services package required Use only when safe and legal. Subject to third party service availability. For more information, see nissanusa.com connect legal Apple CarPlay is a trademark of Apple Inc. Intelligent all wheel drive cannot prevent collisions or provide enhanced traction in all conditions. Always monitor traffic and weather conditions. Taking control of your career is empowering. Just don't tell my boss I said that. Just kidding. I am the boss. This is Carlos Miller from the 85 South Show. And building a career isn't just about a job. It's about creating a path that impacts our community and future generations. Whether you're starting out or even making big moves, State Farm is here to support you with resources to help protect what you're working hard to achieve. They've got your back every step of the way. Because like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. Find out more@state farm.com ABC Wednesday Tim Allen and Kat Dennings star in the new family comedy Shifting Gears. Dad, I'm broke and I need a place to stay until I figure out what the rest of my life looks like. So a couple of days when his daughter moves back in. The last time you walked out that door, you looked back at me and gave me a double bird. I was 18. The double bird was how I ended all our conversation. The wheels come off. We try to talk to each other like rational adults. Have you watched the news lately? That's not a thing anymore. Series premiere Wednesday, 8.7Central on ABC and stream on Hulu this Christmas. So you're her, right? You're the boxer. Experience the Incredible True Story. As long as I'm boxing, I'm gonna be okay. Of Claressa Shields. My baby going to the Olympics. Let's go. Critics are calling the Fire Inside an inspirational knockout crowd pleaser. If I'm gonna train for this gold medal, I'm gonna need exactly what the man gets. It's a monumental achievement. I've been working my whole life for this. The Fire Inside the Incredible True story. Rated PG13. May be inappropriate for children under 13. Only in theaters everywhere. Christmas Day Amazon One Medical presents painful thoughts I could catch anything sitting in this doctor's waiting room. A kid just wiped his runny nose on my jacket, and the guy next to me sitting in a pool of perspiration insists on sharing my armrest. Next time, make an appointment with an Amazon One medical provider. There's no waiting and no sweaty guy. Amazon won. Medical healthcare just got less painful. Good morning, usa. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. Just hilarious. Good morning. It's Friday, and these are all people that have podcasts on the Black Effect Network. Now, see, now you talking. I know a little something about the Black Effect Podcast Network. I figured you did. Like Stephen Jackson and Matt Barnes. That's right. You can check their podcast out called all the Smok. Make sure you subscribe to that, and also make sure you pick up their coffee table book called all the Smoke, all the Stars, all the Stories. No apologies. It's available right now wherever you buy books. We released that on my book imprint, Black Privilege Publishing, through Simon and Schuster. That's right. And also John Hope Bryant and Alex Rodriguez. Come on, man. You talking about John Hope Bryant, man? The Money and Wealth podcast on the Black Effect iHeartradio podcast network. You want to get more financially. Financially literate? Subscribe to that. That's right. All right, well, let's get the show cracking. It's the Breakfast Club on this Friday. It's a new day. This is your time to get it off your chest. Wait. Wake up. Whether you're mad or blessed, it's time to get up and get something. Call up now. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello? Who's this? Hi. Good morning. My name's Katrina. Hey, Katrina. Good morning. Get it off your chest. Hi. I just wanted to talk about how I took my car about a week ago to get fixed on a Saturday. They gave me back the car in worse condition that I took my car to them. Nothing's coming on on the dash. It doesn't even run. And I just want to talk about loyalty and how it's good to keep customers. And they. They told me they was going to refund me, and then they just cut off all communication from me. So I just want to get that off my chest, that it's good to be loyal to your customers and keep a good rep for your. You know, for yourself and your company. Absolutely. You ain't say the company name yeah. What's the name of it? Well, it's a small. I live in a small town in Kansas, and I had known this guy for, like, I'm 42 years old right now, and I've been taking my car to this guy. He passed away a couple years ago, and his daughter took over the business. And she's not the same as him because he was a good person that was trustworthy. And I guess, obviously she's not the same as him. So she's a mechanic. I guess so. Because she came to my house Monday to supposedly fix it, try to fix it again, because it's a timing valve, solenoid or something, and it still didn't work. So she said she was going to come tomorrow, and then she did. I mean, yesterday. And then she didn't answer me at all yesterday. Well, you try again today. Cause you just never know. She could have been in an accident. She could have had a family emergency. It could be anything. Give her another day before you start wilding out. Yeah. No, I think my patience has wore enough. And in order to keep my peace, I just wanna let it go. Okay. All right. Have a good one. Well, thank you. Y'all have a great day. You too. Them stud mechanics, it's crazy. You stupid. I trust the stud mechanic, man. That's part. You trust one? Yes. Hell, yeah. Cause they just look like they can know how to fix the. Until you got that situation that that lady got. She probably don't even. She. If I'll trust a stud mechanic, I ain't gonna front. Stud mechanic. I'll be like, man, please. Here, take that rigid. And I know you know what to do with a screwdriver. Yo, shut up, man. Hello. Good morning, Breakfast Club. Good morning. What's up? What's up, brother? What's your name? K.C. out of Ohio. I wanted to get off my chest, throw the ring. I wanted to set you straight on no narrative about the Drake storing Kendrick Lamar. The only reason Drake is. And he ain't even throwing Kendrick, he's doing the label because prior to the beef, what a lot of people don't know is he was in negotiations with the label because his numbers was up. They came to the table and he like, like, what you want? Hey, shut up, man. You learned that off tik tok and YouTube. Drake did a deal. Drake. No, actually, I follow entertainment news. Actually, follow celebrity Entertainment news. Let me ask you a question. He only saw them because they use the numbers and the metrics to lower the deal that they was offering for his new Contract. That's not. That's it. That's not true. But let me ask you a question. When. When did. When is the last time Drake did his deal? Since you follow entertainment news, when's the last time he read up when Drake tied his last deal? He read up his deal in 2019 when him and. Him and Wayne renegotiated after a little debacle with Wayne going to jail. Nope. It was 2022. He got $400 million. Nope. 400 million? Yes. With UMG? Yes. Yes. 2022. Look it up, Mr. I do my research. Mr. I know what I'm talking about. Because I follow entertainment news. I do follow entertainment news, and I can miss some point sometime. But for the majority of it, the narrative to control the narrative of the story, the lawsuit is not about him screwing him over the phone. He's throwing the label over them, edging the metrics to make it look better for their benefit. Here's the thing, man. Nobody has benefited from that system doing that more than Drake, okay? Like that's a fact. So. So here's the thing. What you know. You know how they say men lie, women lie, numbers don't. Drake is telling you that numbers lie because he's telling you that this is what these systems do. You think that system has never done that for him? You think Toosie Slide was really a number one record? Sir? You know what I'm saying? Like, really? You really think that, sir? All right. I'm gonna give you your credit on that one. That's one of those songs he could have kept in the vault. Yeah, man, but when you got. When you got a system behind you that can inflate numbers, they can make things number one. And they did that with Toothy Sl. But they didn't have to do that with. Not like us, I can tell you that much. Get it off your chest. 800-585-10-51. If you need the vent, you can hit us up. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Break it up. This is your time to get it off your chest. Keep calling 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello? Who's this? Good morning. This is Adrena. Hey, Adrina. Get it off your chest, Mama. I'm a little nervous, but I really want people to reach out to your friends and family, check on them to make sure that they're okay. It's been almost eight months since I lost my soulmate to suicide. And when he committed suicide, we Was on a break, but we were still very much in communication with each other. But I knew something was wrong, and my gut told me to go check, but my head said, no, don't do it. And had I listened to my gut, I would have known something was wrong and could have been able to help. Also with women and their children, when you have a man that wants to be in the lives of their kids, you shouldn't use the child as a pawn to get back. Because no one never, ever thought that he would commit suicide because of what was happening with his children. So I just want people to just be aware of those things. Absolutely. Yes, ma'am. Well, definitely sending you healing energy, Queen. Yes, thank you. Absolutely. All right, mama. Have a blessed day. You guys do the same. Very heavy this morning. Crack a joke or something, Jess. Lord have mercy. Ain't no damn character. You got some money? Hello? Who's this? Hello, this is Blind Tommy. What's up, Blind Tommy? Blind Tommy. Get it off your chest. How y'all doing, man? I'm mad cause I'm. Cause I'm a blind broke comedian, so. See, you gotta pick one. Now, which one you mad about? Being blind, being broke, or being a comedian? All three. Well, you should learn to see the bright side. Damn it. How you know you're broke? How you know people not just stealing your money? I ain't got nobody to steal. Damn. I think. I think you might be looking at this wrong. Were you born Blythe? Look at it. You can only look at it one way. I was blind five years ago. Oh, okay. Okay, so. Oh, you are newly blind. You don't count. Damn. How'd you get blind, sir? So funk has gotten my system, and they attacked my optic nerves. Damn. Sorry to hear that, bro. Have you. Have you learned any new skills? Have anything. Has anything else strengthened a little bit, but not that too much. Got you. Got you. Well, how can we help you this morning, brother? What can we do for you? Whatever. We'll see what we can do. Whatever it is. But you know how people ask y'all for books? Shut up, man. Can I get a book deal, man? Can I work for you? You want a book deal? Yeah. I'm be honest with you. I'm interested in the story. I can't sit here and act like I wouldn't want to hear more of the story. What if you're talking about braille books? Well, you want to write? I hate this place this morning. Eddie, get. Get my guys information. I'm interested in hearing the story. I want to See if there's. It might be a story there. You never know. Yeah. All right, hold on, Tommy. Okay. All right. Hold on, Tommy. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the event, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Along the Rosa, filling in for Jess. We got a special guest in the building, ladies and gentlemen. She's back. Ms. Teslin Figaro. Welcome back. Hello, hello, hello. How you feeling? What's happening? Charlamagne. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Hello. How you feeling this morning? I'm feeling good. I am. I'm really feeling good. It's good to be back. Back with family. Chop it up with y'all. Drop some dimes, name some names. Okay. Yeah. Here to give what we dropping dimes on T. Dropping dimes on everybody from top to bottom. But let's start right up with the presidential. Presidential election. Why did VP Harris lose? Oh, man, I should have brought my whiteboard. That many. That many reasons. That many, yeah. And. And the reason why this is important, I literally have my stuff in order because a lot of people envy said, you know, she lost because of this reason or she lost because of that. And it's really in the Midwest. A tornado requires water, humidity, wind, you know, multiple things. It's not one reason. It's not one reason. And when I hear people saying, you know, oh, if he just did better with the messaging. Oh, if they did better with the media, I've really kind of put together a list of flowchart on how basically a colossal up from top to bottom. So you're doing an autopsy? Yeah, we're doing an autopsy. We're doing a full autopsy. So if we just really take it from the top, as we all said, Joe B. Should have never ran. We have to first, you know, start there. Should have never ran. He said he was a one time. I was going to be a one time president. We talked about it multiple times. He actually volunteered that lie to say, hey, I'm only going to run one term. I'm coming in just to stop Trump immediately. Then they should have started building a base immediately. Right out the gate. Trump was still campaigning this entire time. We talked about it. We talked about how it was constant rallies, constant organizing. You and I talked about it on the Van Jones show. We're saying you guys really have to continue the organizing year round. And that's why I blame a lot of the people at top who have the ear of the. You know, of the candidates and campaign consultants, because they've been told this multiple. Multiple times. So we should have found a white man right then and there. Who was going to be next in line to build a white man. Young, white. Absolutely. Young white man right then and there. And it's not. Governor Newsom, by the way, a lot of people keep saying that Governor N would get swamped. So from the door, you didn't think Kamala was going to win you right out the gate? No, no, no. Because she's a black woman or. Yeah, absolutely. So that. That's number three. So let's first get that. So they should establish a. And didn't do that. Governor Newsom, I just want to put that out there. A lot of people like him, great debater. He would have got swamped. You have to remember, he literally passed the bill K through 12 to have shared bathrooms with gender. So imagine what conservatives would have deal with that all over the nation. The homelessness and all of that. So then, yes, number three, America was not going to vote for a woman of color, period. And no, in the history of black woman and white women allied ship, alleged allyship. I have never known a white woman to give a job to a woman of color before they got it. That includes even McDonald's on fries. Just not gonna happen. Have you ever, ever white women ever said, you know, I think you're more qualified, Go ahead and take it. They didn't give it to Hillary Clinton. They were not gonna give it to her. I know there was hope. I know you talked about, you know, believing in us, but it was never about us believing in us. It was about us knowing them. It's not about being qualified. This was when it came down to saying, they didn't give it to Hillary Clinton. Why would they give it to Harris? So that was, to me, an error right out the gate. But we had no choice, because Biden, I think. I think Kamala as a black woman is the only reason. Well, first of all, two things. The last two elections, the Democratic Party need to be thanking black women, right? Because if it wasn't for Jim Clyburn telling Joe Biden, hey, I'm not endorsing you unless you promise that you're gonna put a black woman on the Supreme Court, I'm not endorsing you. So that's what made him endorse Joe Biden. He went South Carolina changes the complexion of his campaign. If it wasn't for Kamala Harris in 2020. I think a lot of us wouldn't have went out there and voted for President Biden. I didn't vote for President Biden. I voted for Vice President Kamala Harris. I also think in 2024, when you look at the fact that Joe Biden's presidency was dead, like, completely dead in the water, and Kamala Harris came the top of the ticket, raised all of this money, ended up having the second most votes of any Democratic nominee ever with 74 million votes. I think that only happens because she's a black woman. Well, two things can be true at the same time. There can be some positives that came with that, but there also can be some negatives. Where we look at the data, we don't have to guess. We looked at where white women align. We looked at where the Latino community aligned. We looked at the bottom line. Data that shows Latino women, Latino men. That was a surprise. Yeah. Why was it a surprise? You don't think so? No, no. The Democrats, Latinos have always split their vote 50, 50. They've always. When you look at, you know, I organized for the Bernie Sanders campaign in Michigan, I was the only black woman on the ground in 2015 that helped lift that state. Latino community has always been divided. When you look at Florida and you look at the Cuban community, they've always went conservative. When you look at the, the Bernie Sanders, the left side, the California, they always go left. They have always strategic, and I'm mad about it, strategically been able to have leverage because they go 50, 50. You remember when Joe Biden told black leaders when he won? Yeah, right after he said, I owe you. Black people, remember when they had the meeting and they leaked the tapes in front of the. The Al Sharpton and all them and said, y'all need to go follow the Latino community because they're the ones that have the leverage. So I'm not mad at it, but we need to talk about it for what it is. There might be a black and brown coalition in New York. You know, I've talked about that all the time. But when you talk about the set, that changed, too. They're. They're moving over. When you talk about the south, when you talk about the Midwest, and particularly when you talk about the west, there is no black brown coalition. And it's okay for people to vote their interests. Also got news for you. Black men are conservative. Doing my Joe Biden whisper. Black people are conservative. I don't know why people want to keep making that not an issue. So when you're talking about black Men. And you're talking about other black black people in the majority of the country, in the south, majority are moderate. I know progressives want to sell a different story, but black people for the most part are moderate and a lot of them lean conservative. We're going to get into that when we get into the messaging, but let's just kind of go back a little bit. I agree that there was some positives to it, but when it came down to it, when we looked at race, white women, to me, just like they did in the midterm, just like they did when they were with Obama, then they went with Trump and then they went back to Democrats in the midterms and then they flipped back. When you're talking about white supremacy and talking about positioning, like what they did with the women's suffrage movement, I just didn't see them doing it for a black woman over them. They didn't do it with Hillary Clinton. The only person that ever beat Donald, Donald Trump is Joe Biden. And I agree. But. But 55 of white women voted for Trump over Biden. Right. To align with white supremacy to a lot. Because this is about white supremacy. This is about would they rather have their household ahead of you as, as a black man with their husbands. That's exactly it. And nothing's wrong. And people need to stop these pundits, get them in there. They went against their own interest. No, their interest is their household. Your interest is your interest. My interest is my interest. When I keep hearing people say that they went against their own interest. No, they actually aligned with their interest, which is white man, white woman, black man, black woman. That's the order. That's how it is. Black people are the side chick. Bottom line, we need to just accept that. I know we want to say black girl. Imagine. No, we're gonna say, oh, because black this and that. Black women can't save this country. We need to stop selling that dream. Let's get in position and understand what we can do. Which is why I was talking about the local and state level and stop trying to sell this timeshare scam. Cause to me it was a timeshare scam, I agree with you that there was really no other choice. Cuz Joe Biden was trash. We get that he was trash. So once they said, okay, let's rally around Harris, now she's Democrat nominee. Okay, so cool. We with that. Black women raised $30 million out the gate. Black men raised 30 million out of the gate. So now we're having to deal with who dropped this bag. Who dropped this billion dollar bag and that, that's the issue where we get into how they spent the money. I didn't think she had a chance in hell, but once you decided to move forward. Okay, so what do we do with the money? Black voters. They lost black voters across the board. That one, 2% across the board makes a difference. When you talk about Michigan, makes a difference in North Carolina. So that's where we get into your concern, when you talk about messaging, where the messaging was all wrong. All right, we got more with Tesla and Figaro when we come back. Don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Teslin Figueroa. Lauren, so what you think about Trump's cabinet and I guess his choices for his cabinet right now? Because, I mean, these are the people that you're gonna have to be. Yeah, I don't think nothing. I think Republicans ran, Democrats ran. Is going to be a dictator. Guess what? They want a dictator. We've been saying this forever. We've been talking about this, this day of bipartisanship, and let's just get it through Congress. We said Charlemagne. You know, I said it a million times, like with the George Floyd act, reducing college debt, doing executive order. Everybody said, you can't do executive order. Got to go through Congress. Republicans gonna change it back. If you get in, they're gonna change it back. Guess what? Republicans don't give a damn about changing it back. They Change back Roe vs what about change back? A whole bunch of Obamacare and everything else. Democrats refuse to work as a dictator. They want a dictator. Everybody's saying, oh, man, he gonna be a dictator. Right? That's why they want, oh, yes, he's going to take migrants out. Yes. That's what they wanted. People need to stop saying that. Online is driving me crazy. Oh, Latinos. Oh, man. Oh, man. Y'all about to see. They want the immigrant people who are legal, who come on this country legal. They are literally telling you, yes, we, we do. We don't support illegal immigration. So people that thinking they saying something on social media. Oh, y'all gonna see. No, they want a dictator. We Democrats ran on democracy. They ran on dictatorship. I'd be a dictator day one. That's exactly what dictator. Somebody's gonna push the line. Somebody will give damn about what Congress is talking about. Somebody to say, I don't, I don't care what the rules are. I'm do what I want to do. They want a gangster, period. Yeah, I agree with that. I wouldn't say dictator, but they want somebody that don't give a. Well, he said he was gonna be a dictator on day one. He said that on day one. But, but I think what they what people mean when they say they just want somebody that's gonna say, you know what? As long as things are getting done for the people, I don't care how it gets done. Like John Stewart did a great monologue and he was just like, Democrats always follow the norms and Republicans don't follow the norms. They gonna find those loopholes. The world is constantly changing. It's up to you to decide how to respond. Choose to be bold, to try something new. Choose to reinvent yourself. That's what Nissan did with the all new totally Reimagined Kicks. The dynamic new exterior styling immediately announces that Nissan isn't messing around. The interior, a completely redesigned cabin with premium features like wireless Apple CarPlay and a panoramic moonroof make driving a Kicks immersive and exciting. And with new performance and safety features like intelligent all wheel drive, the Kicks is both fun and safer to drive than ever before. It is the dawning of a brand new era for the Nissan Kicks. Only one question remains. Is it a new era for you as well? Drive the all new reimagined Nissan Kicks today. Available Features compatible device service and consumer activation of Nissan Connect Services package Required Use only when safe and legal. Subject to third party service availability. For more information, see Nissan USA.com Connect legal Apple CarPlay is a trademark of Apple Inc. Intelligent all wheel drive cannot prevent collisions or provide enhanced traction in all conditions. Always monitor traffic and weather conditions. Ready for a new year health and fitness breakthrough that will blow your friggin mind. I'm Carl, co founder of Bodi. That's Bodi with an I and this is the Bodi Bogo sale. Right now if you sign up for a one year subscription to BODI, I'll pay for your entire second year. That's 78% off our monthly price and our best deal ever. Look, it's not easy to get fit and lose weight, especially if you want healthy results. At Bodi we make it simple to reverse years of unhealthy habits. We have over 130 structured programs like For Beginners Only, 21 Day Fix, P90X and Insanity. Our app also has complete eating plans and thousands of healthy delicious recipes. Let's take the guesswork out of getting you fast results. The next 500 people who sign up for a year of Bodi. Get a full second year free. It's time to love your Bodi. Just go to bodi.com that's B O D I.com Thursdays on ABC. Get ready to move that bus. The beloved series Extreme Makeover Home Edition is making a triumphant return to kick off the new year. Join the makeover mavens Joanna Teplin and Clee Shearer as they hit the road on a mission to transform the lives of deserving families whose stories will truly touch your heart. With the help of the design team Arion Belizer and Wendell Holland, they have just four days a race against time to rally communities, demolish old homes and rebuild not just houses, but lives. Get ready for those heartfelt moments filled with tears of joy as Joanna and CLE dive deep into the emotional journeys of these families, uncovering their struggles and beginning the healing process. It's not just about remodeling homes, it's about rebuilding hope one family at a time. So don't miss out on this incredible journey. New episodes of Extreme Makeover Home edition Thursdays at 8, 7 Central on ABC and stream next day on Hulu. You don't want to miss it. This message comes from Greenlight. Ready to start talking to your kids about financial literacy? Meet Greenlight, the debit card and money app that teaches kids and teens how to earn, save, spend wisely and invest with your guardrails in place. With Greenlight, you can send money to kids quickly, set up chores, automate allowance and keep an eye on what your kids are spending with real time notifications. Join millions of parents and kids building healthy financial habits together on Greenlight. Get started risk free@greenlight.com iheart with the best all inclusive vacation deals to Mexico and the Caribbean. Booking your getaway with Cheap Caribbean Vacations means you have more freedom to do your deal, whether you want to enjoy snorkeling, endless margaritas and more, or simply soak up the sun and sand in a tropical paradise. Cheap Caribbean Vacations has your deal for that Plan and book the exact getaway you want at exactly the right price for you by using our exclusive Budget Beach Finder. Or find a featured all inclusive package to Ryu Negrill and do your deal@cheapcaribbean.com which is kind of like dictatorship, though I wouldn't call it dictatorship. He said he gonna do what he want to do. That's what he damn what y'all talking about. He ain't gonna play the political game. So I mean, that's saying I'm gonna do this. And if you don't do it, it's gonna be hell to pay. If you don't do it, you know, I'm gonna make sure you don't win. If you don't do it, I'ma call you out. We talked about this with Joe Manchin. They let. They set up Nigel Mansion seat is to a Republican. We've been talking about this. This has been going on for the last 15 years. Years. This loss was not just what happened in the last 100 days. This has been, at least from my experience, 2007. I can name year over year over year on what happened on how we got here. And then another thing I want to bring up on this messaging abortion. Democrats ran on reproductive rights and democracy fail right out the gate. You had states like Arizona and Nevada that had abortion on the ballot. So Democrats mindset is, let's put abortion on the ballot. And that's going to bring, you know, people. So people know, get out to vote. Gotv. That's how you get out to vote. Oh, they're gonna go to the polls now that abortion's on the ballot. Well, what you did, meatball head, you actually allowed Republican women who were pro choice to actually vote for abortion and still vote for Trump. There's no rule that says if you support pro choice that you won't vote for Trump. So Republican women in Nevada and Arizona literally had the opportunity to bring abortion back and still vote for Trump. So Democrats shot themselves even in the foot if you were expecting women to go vote for reproductive rights because you gave them an out. So the messaging was wrong. Out the gate, we talked about that. Not running on the economy, not running. But I still think, though, envy, even if she would have ran on all of those things, they still was gonna vote for. They still would've rather voted for Joe Biden have dead Weekend at Bernie's, you know, I don't think so. They didn't even win Scranton. They didn't win Scranton. Joe would at least won Scranton. He won Scranton. Harris lost Scranton. I think Joe would have got like 65 million votes. Okay, so if what you're saying is true, what was all. Because I felt how you. You, how you feel now is how I felt in the beginning. And then when I saw all the excitement and the money moving and all of that, I was like, we got chance. What was all of that then? Why was that? Joe just. I didn't think Joe, but I didn't think it was. Joe would have got close. When you got the donor saying, we're not giving you no more money. Well, you didn't have no choice. That's right. Yeah. So let's be clear. They did not have a choice. Cuz George Cl and them said. Yeah, they said they, they didn't have no choice of two things be true at the same time. They had to put Harris in no doubt about that. I'm not disagreeing with that. But I still don't think they would have voted for. They just would have. Wouldn't. They're just not going to give something that they didn't get first. Did she do the best that she could? Yes. Did she do everything they told her to do? Yes. Did she have 100 days to do it? Yes. This is not about on her. This is about setting up a woman to fail in a hundred days to do the damn near impossible. I think Joe Biden should have took that L. He's the one that said, you know he was going to run. He's the one that set up there the entire time. Let him take the L. So can she run again? Would you advise her to run again? No, I don't think she should run again because again, we got to stop with I don't know what this obsession we got with federal. Let them have it. Let's talk about especially Republicans now saying give it to the state if you really want to make real change in your community. I know it's not as sexy, I know it's not as exciting, but it really is at the state level. It really is. At the local level. If you believe in, you want to fund the public schools, you can do it at a local level. You say, you know what? I want charter schools. I want to be able to educate our own. You can do that at the local level. Why are we so infatuated with this White House? I don't, I don't, I don't get it. Why not be in Atlanta council with 16 other people, in Orlando with six other people to be able to say, I'm gonna write a check to the black business investment fund. You know, to be able to say, hey, here's some money to go start a business. You can pass reparations at the local level. So I don't understand this obsession that we have with this federal thing. And I'm gonna be honest with you, Lauren. Black women, a lot of times we get caught up and is wanting to be validated so damn bad. So when the excitement was there, when everybody's like, oh man, we can do this, we can do this black girl, man, we do this we can do. This we do. This validation of needing to be affirmed, needing to say, you are qualified enough, you are good enough. A lot of that played into it. A lot of that played into it. But let's not forget 3,000 black women did a petition and said, joe Biden, keep your ass in. They ignored that and went with the money. To Charlemagne's point, they didn't have a choice. I agree with you, especially about the state thing. You know, there's something else Trump said. That man landed. And I was. I'm still trying to figure out how did he land this? Because it's so hard to get people to focus on this, the abortion thing, right? He told them, I want it to be in the hands of the state. So whenever you would have conversations with people about, you know, abortions on the ballot, they'd be like, no, Trump just wants it to be in the hands of the state. I've never seen a politician convince people on a national level. It's going to be local in that, that's fine. And they buy into it. Well, Trump can get anybody to buy anything. He say. I mean, he's a total. Democrats have never been equipped to run against Trump. Let's just name it, you know, let's just say they've never been equipped to run against him. He's too petty, he goes too low. He don't give a damn what y'all talking about. And he's an entertainer first. Entertainer first. And so they've never been equipped to go against this man. Never. But to your point, Charlemagne, for those that understand the state's rights, and when you go back to Reagan, the reason why black people are against that is because what it does is it disenfranchise us even more. So if you're saying, okay, in Oklahoma, you can't get access to health care, but you can get access to health care in California, very liberal. These are folks that can't just pick up, you know, and go to California to get what they need, don't have the money. So it affects poor people in a. In a very bad way, the state's rights. But conservatives, they like states, give it to the states, their mindset. If you don't like it, move somewhere else. But not of us had not enough of us have the resources to just move, you know, somewhere else, to just move where things, you know, may be favorable to you. So as black voters, we're always trying to carry the least of these and everybody else and think about everybody else. But for. But the reality is, Charlamagne people are only looking at what's in front of their doorstep. Remember when governors US DeSantis reduced the gas when they was talking about, you can't do nothing about the gas. When gas was so high, he said, oh, no, I can do something about it, so I can talk about state. So when people remember that even though there's more liberal, more Democrat voters in Florida, people remember what affected their pocket. And that Republican governor made a difference. Kemp in Georgia made a difference, was passing out camp cards. He did the same thing. Trump, when he signed his name, he gave him Kim cards. People remember that. So even if they don't like Republicans, even if they don't like Trump, when you looking at how that affects your money daily, it makes a difference. And that's where they lost as far as really trying to understand, you know, the economic conversation, especially with black people. That's right. Thank you. We appreciate you for joining us. Thank you for. Let me go through my list. That's all good. It says in Figaro, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. If y'all talking about it, you know we talking about it. It's topic time. Call 800-585-1051 to join into the discussion with the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, if you're just joining us, this was trending yesterday. It was a post that said the new generation of women don't ever cook breakfast because they don't wake up until three. That's where this conversation is coming from. 800-585-1051. And we're asking, asking, why do a lot of women don't like to cook? That's crazy. Waking up at three is a crime. That's right. You on drugs, you ain't brushing, Steven. This three on drugs, you definitely are. If you sleep until 3:00 in the afternoon, you was all, you want dope. But when I was doing drugs, I don't care. I was still waking up at like 11, not 3:00, you know, because sometimes drugs do make you a little tired. Depends what kind of drug, though, now. Drug, Jess. Okay, I'm talking about drugs. Like dope, Hard drugs. Yes. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. I feel you. I ain't. I don't know what that's like. So we're asking, 800-585-1051, what are your thoughts? What do you think about that? I think it's crazy. I. I do, I do agree that a lot more Women feel that way. I mean, they, they have taken the approach, like, okay, I don't have to cook. I'm so caught up in my career and work and everything. And I don't want a man to get in the wrong mindset about me. Like, I'm not a homemaker. But, baby, you literally can cook. How would you cook if you, how would you eat if you didn't have a man? You know, would you just go out every night, you know? Cause I started off with me cooking for myself, and then I had a child cook for him. I don't care. Every man that I've had, I've cooked for. It's something that I like to do. Cooking is very therapeutic. And then it's the way that I take care of myself. It's like a survival thing. I seen my mother do it, I'm gonna do it. I don't understand why it's like that. Yeah, I don't know any women who don't cook. Like, all the women that are in my life cook now. Are some of those women over 40. Yeah. You know, but I know them in their 30s too, and they enjoy cooking. So I don't know who these women are they speak of. And then food is made with love. Envy. Absolutely. Like, it's made with love. So you can appreciate a home cooked meal made by a woman, you know what I'm saying? More than you can at an inn, at a restaurant. Inn, you know, So I will say this. You know, Charlamagne always jokes that we were born in the 1900s when me and my wife first started, you know, dating. And we, when we first got married, we can only order out two things. You can only get pizza and Chinese food. Those are the only two things that would deliver. So we had to cook. She cooked every night. That was the thing. Poor New York. Yeah, the same. My wife always cooked, too. I mean, my wife's dad, you know, one of his side hustles, he's a caterer. So she always knew how to cook. She was always, you know, in the kitchen. That's her thing. We've been together 26 years. I usually do that. Right next cooked. Yeah, I usually do the breakfast. My wife does the dinner. That's. That's how it's always been. That. That's what Chris does. He cooks breakfast because I think that's probably the only thing he can cook. And, and he, but he takes that on all the time. He'll make breakfast, I make lunch, I make dinner. That's why I love to see Like Ari Fletcher, money bag. Yo's girlfriend, she cook. Oh, well, wife, she cooks. I love to see young girls cook. Like when they get it in, in the kitchen, I'm like, okay, girl. Yes. Because you can still be fly businesswoman, you know, and still cook meals. And it looks good. You think it's a regional thing. You think like, you know, more women. That's like down south, towards the southern regions. That's what, that's what, that's what they do. I think so, yeah. I don't know. I think so, yeah. And I think so. I think a lot of the reason why is one, I think the food tastes better in the south. And I think up here there's so many options. There's like no lie bodega and fast food spots on every corner. So much food around here where you can just get all over New York, like so you can never ever be hungry in New York. Yeah, but it ain't great. Great. Yeah, no, it's cool. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it ain't great food. I got you. Well, we got Jasmine on the line. Jasmine, good morning. Hello. Hey, Jasmine, what's your thoughts? Yeah, so I feel like there's too much being like put on women these days. Back then, women stay home with their kids. Like now times have changed. Like, we're working, we have businesses, we're also taking care of the household. Like, we're just doing a lot more. I feel like as long as we're making dinner, like I make dinner, I was like, as long as I make dinner, that's fine. I don't want to hear no complaints about breakfast. It. Look, I get it. I get it. Thank you. Jasmine say that. I don't want hear no complaints about breakfast. Angie on the line. Angie, good morning. Hey, good morning. What up, though? Hey, what up do Detroit? What's your thoughts? Yeah, yeah, Detroit to Houston all day. So my thoughts on this topic. So I'm a mom and I'm a wife and I also work. I enjoy cooking. I just think that now in the current state, in the a current economic situation, moms is working 40 hours a week. So even if we do like to cook and I can speak to my own experience, like I'm at work right now, I'm here at 7, I get off at 6, and then the expectation we to cook dinner every single day, that's a lot. That's a lot. And sometimes men don't really understand that. My husband does because we switch it up. But to go to work all day long and then come home and then cook and then go grocery shopping. It's exhausting. So I think you making, you making a lot of sense, you see? But, but, but I don't know, because I don't know about your mama. My mom used to cook every night. My mom worked nine to five. She'd be home, didn't it, ready by 6:30, 7:00 every night. And it was like no choice. My mother did too. My mother did too, because my dad works afternoons. And to this day I call my mom and I say, I don't know how she did it and I'm very thankful. That was a different breed of person. But also, my mom didn't have to work. Work. It wasn't required for her to have to bring in money. Nowadays it's a lot of 50, 50 men that want you to bring in half. Now my mama, you have no. Hell yeah, my mama works. Not only that, if I go to my mom's house right now, yeah, I don't care what my mom's doing, she will stop and cook. That's exactly. If I say, mom, I'm hungry, she gonna stop and cook me a meal. You know, we should ask our parents. I bet you it's a question you never ask. What's that? If you have a mom who work 40 hours, hours a week and came home and kept food on the table, where, what areas did she have to sacrifice in? Because there had to be some. Yeah, there had to be some areas she had to sacrifice in the relationship between her and your dad in order to be able to do that. There had to be something. Well, you know, my mama. I don't know about yours, but my mama had no life. Like there was no outside life. Like she didn't go out with her friends. She always was home with us. You really don't know how to speak. My mom ain't had no life wife. What she don't feel like outside of our family? Like, my ne. I know Robin is probably like, excuse me, I didn't go out. She didn't hang out with her friends. No outside life. She didn't. It was always about her family. And those are questions that I think that we should all ask our parents. Because a lot of us don't know our parents before they were our parents. And you don't know the sacrifices they probably made to be your parent, to be somebody's wife, to be somebody's husband. We don't ever have those conversations with our parents. I think we should. That's right. It'll give you a better understanding of what they went through through and what we're currently going through now. That's right. All right, sister. Breakfast Club, good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Jess is on maternity leave, so Lauren LaRosa is filling in. And we got some special guests joining us back in the building. Yes, indeed. We got the brother John Hope. Brian. He's back. Welcome, bro. Honored to be here. And also a Rod. Alex Rodriguez. Welcome. Great to be here. A lot of money. A lot of intelligence between y'all, too. How did this happen, this connection? Well, whenever you try to make smart sexy, you know, it attracts, you know, like. Like attracts like, you know, on mindset, you know, this is. All of us are up from nothing, by the way. All of this story is the same thing. You can go from the bottom to the top, legally, ethically, honestly, pay your taxes, do your stuff. Go from. From cashing a check to writing the check. So Alex Story and mine are very similar. Like, we had very strong mothers who are great influences in our lives. We're both extremely nosy. Quincy Jones, how'd you get so smart? I'm just nosy as hell. I want to know everything about everything. And when he got his first check in baseball, he wouldn't ask magic like, okay, how do I turn this from a check to some wealth? And so we start talking to the folks on the front row at the games were business people, and he would trade his influence for lunch. Lunch. I'll go to lunch with you. I just need to ask you a bunch of questions. That's what matter used to do. And it was just brilliant because he gained a business acumen from that. Got it based on NBA while he is playing baseball. Use that to then buy some real estate and then buy some more. I think you worked the first piece of real estate yourself, didn't you? Yeah, a duplex. Duplex for 250,000. So we did a financial literacy episode on money and wealth, which you know something about. It's on the Black Effect network. That's right. Make sure you subscribe to that. Yeah, it's actually episodes out this week. Week. We did this episode together on financial literacy because we both believe it's the civil rights issue of this generation. When you know better, you do better. And we're talking about black and brown wealth. How you. How do you. How does black and brown create some green at scale? It's a conversation that many folks don't have. Most athletes go broke. 70%. Wow. Of all NBA and NFL players bankrupt within five years of retirement and divorce. So this brother, just defying all the odds. He's cool. He's a. He's a humble dude. He wanted to meet you guys. He's been up here before. Everybody been up here before. Yeah, yeah. But he wanted to get into it. He wanted. I love the show. Yeah, he wanted to get into it, go to another level. And so it's a. It's a. It's a beautiful family re reunion. Well, let's. Let's jump right into it. So, you know, what gave you the mindset to say, I want to learn more about investing and making sure that I have wealth after retirement? Was it the fact that you've seen so many athletes go broke? Was it the fact that you said, I'm never going back to where I was, or what was it that said, I want to be different from 70% of those other athletes? I would say I saw my mother work at General motors for about 12 years. She would have the early shift at 3:00 in the morning to 2, come home, nap for two hours, and then go serve tables at night to midnight. And I saw this for years and years and years, and I think my life changed. One day we're at Publix, which is a supermarket down in Miami. I was about 12 years old, and the bill is about $75. And I see her grab some of her tip money, and she's got like $56 or whatever, and I see that she's missing like 20, 25 bucks. And she goes into another pocket in her purse and grabs what I call funny money. And I said, mom, what is that funny money? It's like red. I've never seen money like that, only Monopoly. And she kind of, with shame in her face, looked down and she goes, son, the government is helping us out a little bit this month. And it changed my life. I mean, I can feel it today. And I know so many families out there have felt this, and that's kind of where my ambitions grew. Is that what we used to call food stamps? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Food stamps. Remember, they were paper, but I never seen it because it was a green. Right. And I think she would hide it from me. We were probably in food stamps for years. She just never, you know, disclosed that with me. And then, like John said, I met with one of my heroes and mentors and great friend now, Magic Johnson, about 30 years ago, and he was going out to dinner with Cookie, and it was near La Rodale Drive, I think Mastro or something. And it was supposed to be a 30 minute meeting. We met for three hours. He called Cookie and said, I'm not coming home. And years later I said, magic, why'd you give me like three hours? And I left with nine notes of paper that I still have today. He said, because you're one of the few athletes that came in all business on time. That's right. No phone. And you were taking notes. That's right. So you were engaged, so I engaged with you. So that's my message to the next generation. It's just like the reason why I played baseball for so long is the fundamentals. Whether it's Jordan or Tiger or LeBron or Magic or Bird, whoever is fundamental in sports that makes you great. The same thing as in business. You got to know the rules of engagement. And our young folks, while they're getting better, there's a lot of room for growth to understand the way that money works and the relationship with money and financial literacy. So from day one, did you blow any money? Like when you first got your first big check, did you blow any of it? I was fortunate that I played for almost 25 years. So I would say from age 20 to 30, I made a bunch of mistakes. And then what I realized, like sports, when we won the championship with the Yankees in 09, we had a squad and we were as solid as anyone. And in business, the same thing. You got to create an incredible team that are way smarter than you. You, they have complimentary set of skills, but at the end of the day, you're the quarterback of that team. So then I put my lessons behind me and it's been pretty good ever since. What was the dumbest thing you bought when you, when you first became and made all that money in major league baseball? Well, I'm from Miami, so boat, you bought a yacht, a Benz and a Rolex. If you're from Miami, you need a Rolex. That's the goal. So by the way, me, him and Don Peoples who's been on the show a few weeks ago, the three black men I know, black and brown, same thing. We're all same family who have a couple hundred million dollars in loan facility for real estate on as you know, this non recourse basis, which means there's no personal guarantees, that's credibility and that's where we need to go. Like you make money during the day, you build wealth in your sleep and too many of us hooked on that. I want to get that dollar, I want to get that cash. Wanna get that book? I'll get that bag. It's useless. It's called literally cash flow. And if your outflow exceeds your inflow, then your overhead will be your downfall. And if you don't understand financial literacy, somebody's going to separate you from your wallet. There's just more zeros attached to it the first year. Every athlete spends everything they get. It's natural. You know, growing up in Queens, there was nobody around me making money, right? We were all the same. We didn't know anything about financial literacy, right? My son goes to University of Miami, calls me yesterday, him and his friends about to buy a restaurant. Which is crazy to me. Cause at 20 years old I wasn't thinking about that at all. But it's the mindset and the people that he's around. So for people listening and they might not have somebody around them that is knowledgeable in business, they might not have somebody around them that knows where to put money or what to invest in or how to do it. What do you tell those and people to say? Okay, I don't have a magic to speak to. You know what I mean? I don't have an A rod to say, let me sit down with you. I don't have a John to say, this is what I have and what I do. So what do you tell those individuals? This one includes John. The power of proximity to grace, greatness or proximity to intelligence is so powerful in baseball. I wanted to be around Cal Ripken, Keith Hernandez, Doc Gooden, Strawberry because they had sets of skills that I needed and I wanted. And great athletes can copy and paste better than anyone in baseball skills in baseball. Now you go over now to business and it's the same exact drill. I want to be around John Hope because every time I'm around him, I get better. He inspires me, he gives me more hope, he gives me, no pun intended, he gives my self esteem rises. Our community, black and brown, the number one issue is self esteem issue. And they don't want to engage, they don't want to engage in a business conversation because they don't want to be embarrassed. We're some of the most prideful people in the world, but we pay our rent on time. We're hard working people, we have tremendous heart and grit, but we don't want to be embarrassed. That's why Shark Tank works so well. You get an education while getting entertainment. And America gets an MBA from Shark Tank. That's why people say, when I walk around down, oh, there's a Shark Tank guy. I love shark tanks is amazing, right? They learn so early. So, so your job as an American citizen as a youngster, right, man, boy, whatever you are, is to be around proximity of greatness. So if you find a great mentor from age 20 to 30, forget about the money. 20 to 30, go work for John. Go do an internship at a Rod corp. Go work for Magic paid nothing. Pay whatever you got, get a roommate. But 20 to 30 is your extended education. And then once you get into the 30s, you open up that, that black book, how we say your, your relationships, right? Because when you're 85, right, you look back, your net worth is going to resemble your network. Amen. Right? So start. I had a mentor say, if you don't have a breakfast, lunch and dinner every single day to talk about money, you're falling behind because your competition is doing it right. All right. Don't go anywhere. When we come back, we got more conversation with Alex Rodriguez and John Hope Bryant. It's the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club. Yes, it's the world's most dangerous morning morning show, the Breakfast Club. We got Alex Rodriguez and John Hope Bryant here this morning with us now. Alex, who got you into the, the, the franchise game? Which one? Well, the rumor now is that, you know, y'all got the cash ready to buy the Minnesota Timberwolves. Oh yeah. Full ownership. So this by the way, there's some things that he can't talk about today. It's a legal situation. He'll, he'll answer the question. He can answer. By the way, I loved by the way there was like wish franchise he owns so much. The world is constantly changing. It's up to you to decide how to respond. Choose to be bold to try something new. Choose to reinvent yourself. That's what Nissan did with the all new totally reimagined Kicks. The dynamic new exterior styling immediately announces that Nissan isn't messing around. The interior, a completely redesigned cabin with premium features like wireless Apple Carplay and a panoramic moonroof make driving a Kicks immersive and exciting. And with new performance and safety features like intelligent all wheel drive, the Kicks is both fun and safer to drive than ever before. It is the dawning of a brand new era for the Nissan Kicks. Only one question remains. Is it a new era for you as well? Drive the all new reimagined Nissan Kicks today available features, compatible device service and consumer activation of Nissan Connect services package required use only when safe and legal, subject to third party service availability. For more information, see nissanusa.com connect legal Apple CarPlay is a trademark of Apple Inc. Intelligent all wheel drive cannot prevent collisions or provide enhanced traction in all conditions. Always monitor traffic and weather conditions. People thought it was impossible to build a firm lifted booty and flatten and shrink your abs at the same time. But we've cracked the code. I'm Carl, the CEO of Bodi. That's Bodi with an I. And if you want to lose weight while you firm and tighten even that lower pooch, you need the 80 day Obsession Fitness and Eating program. It's 80 workouts you'll make progress day by day. Crazy booty gains flat tight abs. We tested it and now it's your turn. There's no subscription needed. You can get this in home program for less than a dollar a workout and own permanent digital access. And if you buy 80 Day Obsession this week, you'll get a second program of your choice free. And if you don't see results in your butt and abs in the first 30 days, you get your money back, no questions asked. So get 80 Day Obsession this week and get a second program of your choice free. Go to 80 Day Obsession.com that's 80dayobsession.com that's 80dayObsession.com Thursdays on ABC get ready to move that bus. The beloved series Extreme Makeover Home Edition is making a triumphant return to kick off the new year. Join the makeover mavens Joanna Teplin and Clee Shearer as they hit the road on a mission to transform the lives of deserving families whose stories will truly touch your heart. With the help of the design team Ariane Belizarre and Wendell Holland, they have just four names, a race against time to rally communities, demolish old homes and rebuild not just houses but lives. Get ready for those heartfelt moments filled with tears of joy as Joanna and Clee dive deep into the emotional journeys of these families, uncovering their struggles and beginning the healing process. It's not just about remodeling homes. It's about rebuilding hope one family at a time. So don't miss out on this incredible journey. New episodes of Extreme Home edition Thursdays at 8, 7 Central on ABC and stream next day on Hulu. You don't want to miss it with the best all inclusive vacation deals to Mexico and the Caribbean. Booking your getaway with cheap Caribbean vacations means you have more freedom to do your deal. Whether you want to enjoy snorkeling, endless margaritas and more, or simply soak up the sun and sand in a tropical paradise. Cheap Caribbean Vacations has your deal for that plan and book the exact way you want at exactly the right price for you by using our exclusive budget beach finder. Or find a featured all inclusive package to Blue Diamond Resorts and do your deal@cheapcaribbean.com life comes at you fast which is why it's important to find time to relax a little. You time. Enter Chumba Casino with no download required. You can jump on anytime, anywhere for the chance to redeem some serious prizes. So treat yourself with Chumba Casino and play over 100 online casino style games, all for free. Go to Chumbacasino.com to collect your free welcome bonus. Sponsored by Chumba Casino. No purchase necessary VGW Group void where prohibited by law 18/ terms and conditions apply. He's like, which one? But there's some things he won't be able to talk about today. Just high level, I mean just kind of my passion for sports. I think if you talk to most athletes and you do a Secret poll, probably 90% or more will tell you I would love to own part of a team sometimes who doesn't want to convert from player to owner, right? That's the American way. We took a long run at the Mets and we came in second to Steve Cohen. Thank God, because he's doing a phenomenal job and we're having a great time with the Tim Bulls and the Lynx. Lynx almost won a championship a couple days ago. Came up a little short, but very proud of our young women. Look, this is the ultimate dream to be in room with adam Silver and 30 other owners. It's pretty spectacular. And look at that. And talk about imposter syndrome syndrome. You're seeing Mark Cuban, you've seen Jim Dolan, you're seeing Tony Ressler, you've seen guys like Mark Lazerie, people that I've looked up and admired and studied my whole kind of adult life. And now you're in the room with them as colleagues. It's really an incredible feat. Yeah, I've been dreaming about it probably for a long time and finally made the move. I just got to ask a sport question since we own sports. How about them damn Yankees? Oh man. How does it feel to see what has taken so long to get back to and what do you think about the Yankees now? It seems like baseball is more exciting now. I'm watching the games more. The games are a lot faster. It's fast pacing. So what is your, what is your, your thoughts on baseball now? Yeah, I'm so Excited. This is. Baseball has needed this moment for at least a decade. I'm so tired of people saying baseball's born and old. And look, we went through a little bit of a bit, got boring, but gave commissioner Rob Manford and Tony Clark the head of the union of the players, and they came up with the clock, right. And made it a lot better pace, made the bigger bases. Now they look like Domino's Pizza. Right? Right. Space is a game that's driven by markets and superstars in tradition and history. And this World Series here has it all. This is two franchises that have the two richest franchises in revenue and star power. Global. Yankee may be the number one franchise in the world. Dodgers may be top five. And I'm talking about all of sports. Football, soccer, you name it. Cowboys, number one, baby. Yeah. Yeah. Number one. Yeah. Cowboy fan. The Yankees are in that top five, right. And when you look at the Yankees conglomerate is well worth over 10 billion. Billion. When you look at the Dodgers, well worth over 10 billion. Okay. I would say there's Ohtani and Judge are two biggest stars as you can have. You're gonna have probably 15 million people watching Japan, another 15 or 20 watching here. The fan bases, it's interesting, when you go to Dodger Stadium, there's three type of fan bases. You have the corporate financial institutions in Hollywood. You have the Mexicans that, you know, Fernando Valenzuela, who died, he was a big pioneer in that movement. And then the other third is now Japanese. They're printing money like is no one's business because of Ohtani. And obviously the success they've had with Mark Walters, Todd Bowley, they have an incredible ownership. Just traded this ball for four and a half million dollars. But they've had one championship in 37 years. The Yankees have one championship in 24 years. So both franchise are going to be starving. Tickets, I told Sean today, are going for $40,000 behind home plate. One ticket. That's crazy. So if you want two, that's 80 grand. 80 grand a beer is probably 4,000. So it's, it's, it's gonna be the most watched World Series since the Cubs. And you, you want. You won, right? That the last one was.09. So we haven't been there in 15 years. So bring the glory days back to the Bronx. My question, I don't, I don't know much about the players. It's not about the players. My question is about. It's back to the family stuff you were talking about. My first thought was, so that moment with your mom changed your, like, thoughts on money and building money and family. How do you keep. Now you got all these franchises and all this stuff. How do you keep. Keep like, you take care of a lot of people. But when. How do you set your boundaries where it's like, no, because you got to keep the money to make the money. But you also grew up watching so many people not have, like, what's that battle like for you? How do you be like, no, I can't do that. That makes no sense for my discipline. So first of all, I'm almost 50 now, so I've had a lot of learning experience. I would say when I was in my 20s and 30s, I was a lot more challenging, right? But now when you're running businesses, you can give people opportunities where they can win. So as an example example, my sister does on my personal real estate. So if I'm buying a house for, you know, a dollar, she's making, you know, 3% on that or 6% of that, and my brother does. But they gotta be. They have to be competent. Now, they know it's not a giveaway. No, no. They know my. I don't play that game. You got to be by the book. There's no nepotism. I'm a very tough boss. I would say that. But here are the rules. Rules of engagement. If you play by them, you're gonna get first bid. And if you perform, I'm gonna come back to you over and over again again. If you don't perform, I have no problem quickly pivoting. And it's not personal. It's business. That's right. Now, when my mom calls, I surrender. Whatever. Now, for parents listening, right now, when is a good time to start getting their kids involved in financial literacy? When you start breathing. So when you start spending money, I mean, you're spending money 24 hours a day. When you sleep, you're spending money. The government is by the alarm clock. You did that. The government's not paying for your light bill, right? So check this out. We have a kids account in Atlanta public schools, Operation Hope. By the way, everybody can go get financial coaching scholarship from the Breakfast Club call. Operation Hope will give you $1,000 free scholarship. Just because you mentioned breakfast Club to get coaching and counseling, get your credit score right? So we have it with Mayor Andre Dickens in Atlanta. We have a kids account in kindergarten. 50 bucks in the kids account. Now, you may say, what's the big deal of that? If you have a bank account at kindergarten, you're 50% more likely to go to college. If you have $50 in that account in kindergarten, you're 75% more likely to graduate from college. Because now you're connecting education with aspiration. The kid. The lights on the kid's head. Now you're talking about stocks and bonds and investment. And I mean, don't. And don't put. Don't create an investment account. Don't get a rod of me or you, DJ Envy. Go in and talk about cars, you know, talk about. Because really, it's technology these days, right? Talk about. But through that, it's investing, investment. Now, now, the. Now, these kids, you hooked them, right? So it's about role modeling. It's about the language of money at the earliest age. Because this is the aspiration generation. We can literally build the next generation of America. We have to, by the way, because we're going to be a majority of minorities, literally. If we don't do that, this country is done. But. But we can do that at kindergarten. You know, the biggest thing that my son, he. Who's nine, the thing that I love is my son watches Shaw Tank. So he's nine. So he doesn't know you for baseball. He knows you from Shark Tank. And then, like, I was talking on the phone, we was talking to business to somebody, and he started asking me questions that I know that he got from someplace else. I said this the other day. He was asking me, so, dad, how much equity do you get in that deal? I'm like, where the you getting that from? Whoa. And he was like, well, what about. He was like, well, well, I said, well, where did you hear about equity? And he's telling me Shark Tank. And he was like, ed, I want to know what royalty fees are and this, that, and the other. And at 9, I was like, I just want to play baseball. But, you know, it was just. It was great that they have these type of shows on. And I know you gotta go. I know you had a question. Yeah, I do have a question. So y'all are talking about your families and your kids. And these two always talk about how when they locked into their marriages, everything, like, flourished for them. You talk about your baby girls a lot. Last time you were here, you were talking engagement with JLo. I know you're right now, dating Jacqueline is engagement. Marriage. Is that a conversation for you right now? Like, how does that. Where does that fit in all this business in a portfolio? Well, I'm very lucky to have an incredible person in my life. Jack's Canadian. She's right outside of Detroit. Which is very beneficial because my daughter goes to school in Michigan, So I get two for the price of one. So a good deal. So she's 20 minutes from Detroit. She's a former nurse. She's transitioned her nursing to an incredible business called Jack Fit, where she helps out, you know, thousands of women online, get a better life. I personally lost 30 pounds because of her. I haven't really thought about that. This is really the, the best place I've been in my life. I'm very fortunate, grateful to be where I am. I'm helping out tons of people involved, like you said, with the Timbals and the Lynx and doing my Fox deal with the Yankees and the Dodgers. I'm open to anything. But right now, I'll let you know if there's some big announcement coming. Maybe I'll come back. I would think it would be difficult for you to trust anybody in a really, you know what I mean? Like, romantically, just because you are a rod. So the celebrity within, the money, like, it's hard. It's hard for sure. But, you know, you take your time. You try to surround yourself with people that are better than you and. But it's no question, it's. It's difficult. All right, we come back. We got more with Alex Rodriguez and John Hope Bryant. It's the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club. Yes, it's the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club. We're here with Alex Rodriguez and John Hope Bryant. Now. Envy. You got a question? I was going to ask for somebody listening, maybe possibly thinking about buying their first property, their first investment property, or even their first house, or even refinancing their home. The average person listening to this, please listen to me. As fast as you can buy a home, the number one way you build wealth in America is home ownership. The average African American, we have 41, 42, 43% of us own a home, compared to 75% of our white counterparts. That 30% Delta, that difference is massive homeownership. And prices are not going. Going down. When I started buying those 700 homes from the Promise Homes company, I ran it up to $150 million of assets under management of that particular portfolio. I bought for 88,000. I sold them at 350,000. No one moved the house. There was no genius to it. It's a magic of compounding. They're not growing any more land. Most of the places where we live are inner cities. What's an inner city? In France, it's called Paris. What's an inner city in Britain, it's called the U.K. like, we have centrally located real estate and we're walking away from it to rent to some from somebody we don't know, to spend money we don't have to impress people we don't know, to talk about stuff that don't matter. Like, knock it off. Buy the worst house and the best block in the hood. D A hyphen, H O D the hood adjacent. Buy it near transportation, economy, economic activity, activity in a vibrant environment. Buy it, rehab it, live in it, use equity in a couple years later and buy. I know you know what I'm talking about here. DJ Envy. Buy the second home three years later. You do that three times over five to six years. This is my mother's story. Worked in an hourly job. You're a millionaire and you can get the down payment through the Earned Income Tax Credit, Right? You can go to Operation Hope that we can help you get qualified for EITC. If you're making $38,000 and have three children, the government owes you about $7,000 cash. So you just gave everybody listening to this, who makes $38,000 a check and it's retroactive for three years. If you've never filed, that's almost $20,000. There's your down payment right there. Right. So we can. And get your credit score up, get your debt down, get your savings up, get into that house because it costs just as much to rent as it does to pay a mortgage payment. You're right. Interest rates are 2%. Not coming back. That's fine. 4%, 5% is just fine. That's still very, very low. But prices are not coming down, people. Oh, I'm going to wait. No, no, no, don't wait. It's going to get worse. It's going to get more expensive. Buy right now. Yeah. I want to ask a question because I think sometimes we have these conversations and we have these conversations from our perspectives, right? Well, y'all in a different tax bracket, but I'm just saying everybody here, for the most part, has money. What about people who have no money? People from all communities who have $0. How do the poor even get to the middle class? I got you there. I mean, he's the master. But I'm just gonna give you, like, really simple, right? Money is the easiest part to get. And I know this sounds crazy to. To the folks, folks listening, right? Money. There's over a trillion dollars sitting on the sidelines looking for great deals. So if you don't have money. Can you find deal flow? Can you hustle? If you find me an asset that costs $10 million and you bring it, you bring it to me for 8, you basically own $2 million of that 100. So if you bring me a 10 million dollar deal, right, and I can buy for 8, you say, hey, give me a million dollars on that, I'll give you. Because I'm still getting a million dollar discount. I'm paying 9 for a $10 million asset, so I'm getting a discount. So. So looking for opportunities, understanding where the train is going. And you as an entrepreneur says, how do I get in the way? So when that train goes by, I can jump on and jump in that bandwagon, right? It's creating opportunities. If you find deals, you got money. Is that possible for everyday people to achieve? Yes, absolutely. Yes, yes, yes. You know, you can buy a. You can open a fractional stock account and put in $25 to buy some stock. Now you spend that on Starbucks, you can do ten ducks, you can do five bucks of fractional stock on any stock that you want. So there's no excuse if you want to get in this game. Operation Hope will help you again. If you're listening to Breakfast Club, we'll give you a scholarship for coaching and counseling. We're going to get your credit score up. The average credit score for black people, by the way, is 620. Latinos are a little above that notch more. But you're locked. That means half of us are locked out of the free enterprise system. You can't get a decent home loan at anything below 700. Can't get a decent auto loan below at 6, 650. You can't get a business loan at all unless you're 700. Better, because this is risky credit. So we think the issue is racism or discrimination. It might be, but it also might be that you don't understand. There's a game, there's a box, a credit box, and you're not in it. But you have to have discipline. You have to live below your means. You have to understand this game. You've got to be financially literate and everybody can be a winner at this game. I'd love to come back at some point. We need to talk about a whole nother. This whole thing about relationship capital, which you talked about a little bit. Bit like behind all of us is a backer. That's right. A partner that we're not talking about. Magic has it. I know who they are. I love talking about Tony Wrestler and Michael Ra Getti. Right. They backed me $80 million and I paid him back plus 7%. Right. It's important because our community feel like capitalist. You said talk about making smart sexy. They feel like that's a bad thing. A lot of people, not everybody, but a lot of people in our community feel like capitalism is a horrible thing. Having people back you is a horrible thing as well too. Yeah. So people, let's go further. Oh, I hate rich people. No, you don't. You hate rich people till you become rich. What you hate is a game system. To your point. What you hate is a system that's rigged so that you don't think you can succeed. The money's not evil. It's the love of money that's evil. It's the greed. Ambassador Andrew Young says that men and women fail for three reasons. Arrogance, pride and greed. What did Malcolm X say? We've been bamboozled. We've been tricked. We've been fooled. We've been hoodwinked. We've been hoodwinked on this topic. Topic, black people. We have never had an economic infrastructure in the history of, of of us being here. That's our problem. Government's not going to save you. Even if you want to distribute money like a socialist, you got to collect it like a capitalist. What's the entertainment business? The business of entertainment? The sports business. It's the business of sports. What we don't understand is the business. I'm gonna give everybody here free game. There are about $100 trillion about the co hit the market in the next 10 years. All these baby boomers are retiring at the same time. They don't give their cash and their stock to their kids. They're going to give their house to their family. Kids don't want the business. Those businesses have cash flow, client list, real estate, a brand. Alex say to you a minute ago, bring me an asset for 10 million that I can get for 8 million and you have the upside between 8 and 10. So if you come to me and say I have a startup idea, give me a million dollars, get out of here. Right. You come to me and say I've got a business that's got a million dollars of cash flow that's got a valuation of $10 million. Will you finance that? That the acquisition in this example says ten million dollars of revenue. Well, you've somebody answer a nine million dollar acquisition, the answer to that is absolutely yes. Non recourse meaning no personal guarantee. Wall street does that all day. It's called private Equity. So you got literally trillions of dollars worth of businesses that are about to hit the market. And people listening to this can go become capitalists right now with an existing cash flow business, existing assets, existing employees, and not no risk, but low risk because it's already successful. So we need to stop being self employment projects because 96% of all black businesses don't have an employee. I don't know what the Latino numbers are, but, but you, but again, you build wealth in your sleep. It's compounding. This is a huge opportunity. So all of us here walk into opportunities every single day. But it's taking your eyeballs and your brain and your ears to think about opportunities when you hear them. So you hear opportunities all the time. Time. You know, poor guy and a rich guy go through a bad neighborhood. The poor guy goes, God, what a terrible neighborhood. I would never want to live here. The rich guy goes, let's try to see if we can buy all this up on a cheap because in 10 years you're going to be different. You go to a barber shop and you hear through a terrible divorce and you hear this gossip all the time. And you guys are here, man, what a terrible situation. I have to sell their house. I have a seller car. If you're an entrepreneur in the ear, you hear, oh, that might be an opportunity. Well, maybe I can not to take advantage of anyone. But if you have to sell your house quickly, maybe I can provide a quick buy and sell for you off market. Right? And there goes that $7 million deal for 10. Right. So it's about a rewind of the brain and looking at opportunities and not looking at problems because problems is really opportunities. Well, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us so much. John Hope, Brian, Alex is happening December 9th through the 11th in Atlanta, Georgia. Man, that's right. I, I'll be there. All right. Well, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. It's time for donkey of the day. I ain't trying to be donkey today no more. They should be embarrassed by what they already did. I'm not making these people do these things called donkey of the day. And it really caught me off guard. Damn charlamagne. Who got the donkey of the day today? Well, just hilarious. Donkey of the day goes to 21. No, goes to 20 year old, 22 zero, 20 year old Jalene White. Now he's 20, so that means he was born in 2004. And he is confirming my theory that after the year 2000 the universe just started making anybody. And I told y'all it's because God sold the company that makes humans. He sold it to some other higher power and they kept the name. Okay, same model, but the ingredients just not the same because these little youngins is different. See, Jalen has an 8 month old son and the mother of the child had to run out real quick so she left the baby with his daddy. Well, Jalen decided to do what most men do when they watch their kids and that's play NBA 2K. Well, I'm going to tell you right now, this is where the story gets dark. And since I don't like to be the bearer of bad news, let's go to CBS News Chicago for the report. Please. A father in Milwaukee is charged after he admitted to throwing his nine month old son because he was frustrated while playing a video game. Prosecutor Prosecutors say 20 year old Jaylen White was playing NBA 2K. He was quote down two points in the fourth quarter of the game. Prosecutors say that's when he threw his 8 month old son against a wall. The criminal complaint states White told detectives he heard his son's head hit the wall loudly. Hospital staff discovered several injuries on the child, not all of them from the wall incident. This appears not to be the first abuse of conduct with this child based on the fact that there are multiple stages of healing of broken ribs. The baby has a dramatic brain injury and is not expected to survive. If the child does die, prosecutors will upgrade the charges against White to homicide. Somebody tell Donald Trump to add Jalen to the mass deportation list. Okay. Don't be fooled because his last name is White. He's not. This man was losing by two points in NBA 2K and got so upset that he threw his baby against the wall in anger. What happened to throwing your controller against the wall? What happened to simply resetting the game? What happened to instinctively loving your kids more than anything else on this planet? This man, Jalen told police and I quote, he hit his head hard on the wall. Bruh. I heard the wall. It was hard on his head. I heard the impact of the wall after I tossed him. This man's 8 month old child is not expected to live because his dad, daddy was losing by two points in the fourth quarter in NBA 2K. The craziest part about this story is Jalen said, he said he didn't. He didn't, he didn't say he saw the baby hit the wall. He said he heard the baby hit the wall. That means he just tossed the child without looking. Okay, he tossed the baby away. He just tossed the baby. The way Tyrese tossed those tissues the last time he was hand Breakfast Club Studios crying. I'm not doing this. Me neither. Okay, out of all the things you could have grabbed and threw at the wall out of anger, you tossed your child. And you trying to tell me this? The same original recipe for humans God been using? No, humans are under new management. And God and, And. And. And Ben. Okay, God don't have his hands on none of those new model humans. You only hear humans of a certain age say, God not done with me yet. Because we are some of the last models that God created that. That he still got his hands on, okay? Therefore, we can still go to God repair service center. Lifetime warranty. But the reality is God is done with some of y'all. And in the case of Jalene White, God said, get somebody else to do it. I don't have nothing to do with that. I don't have nothing to do with those humans born after 2000. Okay? That after 2000 human business, that's not me. I'm over here. I got my hands on the chimpanzees, the dolphins, the ravens. Have you noticed what I'm doing with the orcas and the bees? They are the new intelligent life. And Ben, which is why the more you get to know humans born after the year 2000, you realize why Noah only let animals on the ark. Now Jalen is being held on child abuse and child neglect charges. And you heard the news report. If the poor 8 month old child dies from his injuries, Jalen's charges are expected to be updated to include murder. Murder. And he is currently being held on a hundred thousand dollar bond. All those in favor of keeping him there forever say I. I. Okay. Yeah, I. All right. I mean, not I knew yes. Although the polls say no. Okay, Please let Remy Ma give Jalen White the biggest. He haw hee haw hee haw. You stupid? Are you dumb? That's sad, man. Yeah, that is sad. It's crazy. It won't be no 2K where he going. Yeah, they said that it was. This ain't the first time. Like, the baby has other injuries that he's hailing from. That's what I'm saying. And all that. Like, that's. That's crazy. So why wasn't the baby taken out of the cab before? That's wild. He deserve everything he about to get. If he get forever in prison, he get forever in prison. Okay? And it ain't like I said, it ain't no 2k where he going. It's all too gay now. Okay? No controllers, just joysticks. Just joysticks. Just joysticks. Fix it. My goodness. Well, thank you for that donkey. Today, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Jess is on maternity leave, so Lauren LaRosa is filling in. And we got some special guests in the building. That's right, we got Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson. Welcome, fellas. What's up, family? How y'all feeling? Good. Good. Tired but good. Tired but good. Collection effectively known as the all the Smoke podcast. That's right. Their new coffee table book is out right now. All the Smoke. Man. You know, I always say, like I know that there's a lot of athletes who do podcasts and stuff now. I don't know anybody before y'all. I feel like y'all started that whole wave. How did this come about though? This just for a podcast. Like, I know y'all was partnering. The world is constantly changing. If it's up to you to decide how to respond, choose to be bold to try something new. Choose to reinvent yourself. That's what Nissan did with the all new totally reimagined Kicks. The dynamic new exterior styling immediately announces that Nissan isn't messing around. The interior, a completely redesigned cabin with premium features like wireless Apple CarPlay and a panoramic moonroof make driving a Kicks immersive and exciting. And with new performance and safety features like intelligent all wheel drive, the Kicks is both fun and safer to drive than ever before. It is the dawning of a brand new era for the Nissan King. Only one question remains. Is it a new era for you as well? Drive the all new reimagined Nissan Kicks today Available features compatible device service and consumer activation of Nissan Connect services package Required use only when safe and legal, subject to third party service availability. For more information, see nissanusa.com connect legal Apple CarPlay is a trademark of Apple Inc. Intelligent all wheel drive cannot prevent collisions or provide enhanced traction in all conditions. Always monitor traffic and weather conditions. Ready for a new year health and fitness breakthrough that will blow your friggin mind. I'm Carl, co founder of Bodi. That's Bodi with an I. And this is the Bodi Bogo sale. Right now. If you sign up for a one year subscription to BODI, I'll pay for your entire second year. That's 78% off our monthly price and our best deal ever. Look, it's not easy to get fit and lose weight. Especially if you want healthy results At Bodi, we make it simple to reverse years of unhealthy habits. We have over 130 structured programs like For Beginners Only, 21 Day Fix, P90X and Insanity. Our app also has complete eating plans and thousands of healthy, delicious recipes. Let's take the guesswork out of getting you fast results. The next 500 people who sign up for a year of Bodi get a full second year free. It's time to love your body. Just go to bodi.com that's b o d I.com Thursdays on ABC get ready to move that bus. The beloved series Extreme Makeover Home Edition is making a triumphant return to kick off the new year. Join the makeover mavens Joanna Teplin and Clee Shearer as they hit the road on a mission to transform the lives of deserving families whose stories will truly touch your heart. With the help of the design team Ariane Belizer and Wendell Holland, they have just four days a race against time to rally communities, demolish old homes and rebuild not just houses but lives. Get ready for those heartfelt moments filled with tears of joy as Joanna and CLE dive deep into the emotional journeys of these families, uncovering their struggles and beginning the healing process. It's not just about remodeling homes, it's about rebuilding hope one family at a time. So don't miss out on this incredible journey. New episodes of Extreme Makeover Home Edition Thursdays at Central on ABC and stream next day on Hulu. You don't want to miss it with the best all inclusive vacation Deals to Mexico and the Caribbean. Booking your getaway with cheap Caribbean vacations means you have more freedom to do your deal. Whether you want to enjoy snorkeling, endless margaritas and more, or simply soak up the sun and sand in a tropical paradise, Cheap Caribbean Vacations has your deal for that. Plan and book the exact getaway you want at exactly the right price for you by using our exclusive budget beach Finder. Or find a featured adults only all inclusive package to Seekers, resorts, spas and do your deal@cheapcaribbean.com life comes at you fast, which is why it's important to find time to relax a little. You time. Enter Chumba Casino with no download required. You can jump on anytime, anywhere for the chance to redeem some serious prizes. So treat yourself with Chumba Casino and play over 100 online casino style games, all for free. Go to Chumbacasino.com to collect your free welcome bonus. Sponsored by Chumba Casino. No purchase necessary VGW Group void where prohibited by law, 18/ terms and conditions apply. I think we. I. I think Jack retired maybe one or two years before me. And we both got out. We're doing ESPN and Fox and getting positive feedback, and people said we needed to do something together. And we were at my house in the bay one time smoking, and I'm just like, you want to do a podcast? And he's like, sure, what is it? I was like, I don't really know, but I think we can drink and smoke because we were working ESPN and Fox. You know, you got to kind of walk that line. So it was just a little bit more to our comfort zone. And he said, yeah. So I started doing the homework and. And we landed here. We landed at Showtime. All right, Kamala was your most recent. We did Joe, Kim, Noah after her. But yeah, Kamala was, yeah, a big boy for us. And how was that? I know you're a little reluctant a little bit at first. Oh, no, you know that I called him, I talked to him about it. Me and Matt, we went at it for a couple days about it. You don't want to do it at first? Nah, because I really don't want to get in politics. I don't even want to want to be involved. And a lot of people that support me don't get involved. You know what I'm saying? I look at it the same way I look at it, but as a friend and as a brother to him, you know, anything that, that, that he asks me to do something, you know, nine out of ten times, I'm loyal to a fault, you know what I'm saying? Even if it's something I don't want to do. But I know it was beneficial for our company. I know it's benefit. And I see after. After I did the interview, I see now I have a lot of women in my life. I have eight aunts, six daughters, you know, so I would look to them after I did the interview. I'm glad I did it now because they all look at her and they look up to her and aspire to be great like her. So I'm glad I did it. You know, when he said he didn't want it, first of all, I told him, I said, stack, have I ever led you wrong in a business decision or life? And he said, no. But, you know, when he said he didn't want to get involved with the politics, I. I told him, you know, I don't think that was his choice, because once he did that, George Floyd Thing. He put him smack dab in the middle of the biggest. Leading one of the biggest protests this world has ever seen. So a lot of things come with that. A lot of good, a lot of bad, but a lot of things come with that. And I think that he implanted himself in the middle, and I always will respect his opinion, but I just thought this could be an opportunity for. He has a very loyal following, and it could have been a. You know, it was. It was an opportunity for him to, you know, get some stuff on his chest or ask straight to the face. You know, ask. To ask her straight to the face those questions. So I'm glad he decided to come around. It took him a minute in it, like, literally. Hey, let me tell you, bro. Until she came in the room, Jack wouldn't. Oh, wow. Right? Until. So. So she came in the room, and then she took us away from the group and. And took us on a walk throughout the house and started showing us these. This dope black art and sculptures. And Jack was still tough, like. And then he saw this one piece I already liked, and she talked about it and she had moved on. And I kept following. He went and touched the art and looked at it. I was like, oh, she might be getting to him. And then he showed. She showed this dope ass chandelier. And then once she showed the chandelier and explained it, and then Jack started smiles, like, all right, she got him. So we were straight. So it took him a minute to warm up. Did she know that you didn't want to do it? She hasn't. Yeah, she had a little bit. She had a little something, but someone might have handed her. Did y'all smoke before y'all got there? I did. Oh, of course. I'm high now. Yeah. It was too presidential to be able to try to sneak it in and get one off. And we was representing a lot of people, so we didn't want to get in trouble. But, yeah, definitely. We pregamed. You know, that was one of them. Smoke shower. You know, Steve, so don't mess up the hotel room. Like, you know, y'all had the last conversation with Kobe Bryant, the last interview with Kobe Bryant, and I always wondered, was that the last time either one of y'all actually spoke to him before he passed? That was the first and last time I spoke to him since we played against each other. Wow. I know. Matt, Y'all had a. Yeah, we would see each other a little bit more because he was coaching Gigi and I was coaching the twins. So we had talked maybe one time after that, and then he had sent some shoes. Literally, the week I think he passed on a Sunday, he sent shoes that previous Monday to the Twins and their whole team. So they had just got fresh Kobe. So we had spoken then. OB Like I said, he sent some shoes the week of the actual. The past. So it was. It was tough, man. What stands out from that conversation? I mean, you have it. Y'all have it in the. All the smoke, coffee table book. But what stands out from that conversation? Just from that date, we had a conversation and there's office before we actually got on camera. And he was really adamant about this next 20 years then and for the world to be prepared for what he was doing in business. He was just finishing writing one of the children novels he was working on, and he just like, fellas, like, I don't want people to remember me for my last 20 years. I want them to remember me for my next 20 years. You know, he had the fund and had won Emmys and doing all kinds of stuff in the business space and obviously really saw when I got to see him, coach Gigi, and just. He didn't always. Never showed a ton of joy, but you can just tell he loved it. I mean, he had these little girls running the triangle offense. Would take some grown men a long time to learn. He had these girls practicing four or five days a week, three hours a day. Like, the thing about CO was he didn't take nothing light when it came to basketball. So these were little young girls, but they were running the Lakers offense to a te. It was. He was like a drill sergeant with it, but you could tell he loved it. You know, all those little girls loved him and looked up to him, and just the passion behind that was. Was. Was beautiful to see. For me, I think, see meeting him as a teenager and seeing him grow into the icon he was, I just admired that. You know, with so many players and basketball players you come across during AAU and traveling, you know, coming up as a teenager, you see so many people that's supposed to be great that don't live up to it, you know what I'm saying? He lived up to it and exceeded it. So, you know, just to be able to sit there, to talk to him after our careers, you know what I mean, and go through the memories, you know what I'm saying, before he passed them and everything thing to me. Yeah. What do you think about the Lakers now? We see Bronnie played at the last two games, and people are on Bronnie's ass. That's a beautiful. I showed him the picture. We got in the car, we saw the pound. That's the dopest picture. When he helping his dad up. That's the dope. Whoever hating die. Yeah, I mean, I think if anyone deserves this opportunity to play with his son, I think it's him. You know what I mean? And the fact that that whole thing was orchestrated for him to. To get to the Lakers is. Is amazing. And I was. I was. I had a moment this past summer because my twins are 15 now, so I take them and play against grown men. And I remember one time me and the twins were on the same team playing, and we was hooping. I'm just like, man, this is so dope. I couldn't imagine this on the highest level. So to me, I mean, the kid was a 55th pick. Normally the 55th pick doesn't even make it. So all these crazy expectations for him earlier, ridiculous, like allow him to develop, but, you know, we don't live in a world where development is allowed, especially on the highest level. So I think from a father, son aspect is incredible. But, you know, the Lakers are one of the. Those teams where you got to produce. What have you done for me lately? And they haven't necessarily done that. So it's going to be interesting, you know, scrutinize year. I think we were talking about that earlier. Do you think that Bronny will actually have the chance to develop, or you feel like people are going to pigeonhole him so much that it might. He has even more of a chance to develop because his father's there. Like, that's the motivation he have, and he. He's seen what it takes to be great. So all that is in him already, and now he's in the. In the. In the facilities where you have everything here to be great. I think. I think he has everything he needs, and I think he's definitely gonna blossom over there. And I also think too, I mean, I don't think you look at Bronny in the same. Same light as you look at LeBron. I just think. I think he's going to be a very solid role player. I mean, he's got a high, high IQ place, defense, can make the right play, can shoot the ball. So I just think he needed a little bit more time to develop, and now he's developing on the biggest stage. But I think, you know, two, three, four years, he's going to be a very solid rotational player. All right, we got more with Stephen Jackson And Matt Barnes from the all the Smoke podcast when we come back. So don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess, Hilarious Charlamagne, the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lauren LaRosa is filling in for Jess and we still kicking it with Stephen Jackson and Matt Barnes from All the Smoke podcast. Charlemagne. What was the process of putting this book together? Like, how did y'all choose which conversations to put in there? Shout out Dylan obviously. Yeah, you and the company. And then Dylan just understanding, you know, where we, the caliber of guests we had and the different types topics we spoke on. You know, again, there's a ton of people in this space now as far as sports, but I don't look as if it's competition. I think everyone had their own journey and their own voice and their own experiences. And I think we still think with all the conversations we had, our conversations are still different from everybody else's. So just important, you know, family, mental health, everything that comes along in this journey. And, and you know, we've been able to transition from not just a sports show to just kind of a more of a culturally relevant show, you know, when we're talking to the Kevin's and the Wizards Wills and the Jada's and the Jamie's and, and the vp. So I just think, you know, high level conversations with high level people and you know, being able to be celebrated with that. I mean, if I'm not mistaken, we're the first podcast with the coffee table book, man. So I think it's, it's, it's a tremendous opportunity. We're very thankful for it and, and hope that everyone checks it out. How did, how did you guys know it was time to. You talk a lot about transition, that it was time to transition in and like lean into like okay, the podcast, the merch, like just the business side of things. Like was that a switch? It probably was playing. But when did you know, like, okay, it's time to jump the fence now, man. The reason why I left the NBA the first year of a three year deal. I happened to win a championship with Golden State and I wasn't getting paid two years after you got planned. I wasn't getting a chance to see my kids, you know what I mean? So it was kind of a perfect storm. We won a championship and I was ready to move. So I was just kind of excited. And I think sometimes why athletes, athletes have a hard time transitioning because they don't get to leave on their own accord. Most of the time it's injuries or a reputation or just teams don't want no more. But, you know, I was someone that just, you know, I was in the midst of a contract and I'm just like, man, you know, this was the blessing. We won. I want. I'm missing so much time with my sons. I'm a father first, so, you know, that was my transitioning reason. And then once I transitioned, I'm like, damn, what's next? You know, I had invested well and, you know, had some things moving, but I knew I still needed to find something to do. And, you know, media came knocking for both of us. You know, we kind of ran with it. So, I mean, Jack is the kind of guy that, you know, he trusts very few. So if you're in his trust circle, he's going to listen to you. And when I pitched the idea, he trusted me to run with it and make it happen. And, you know, that's what I was able to do. I want to ask some basketball questions before y'all get about it. Klay Thompson, what you think about him leaving the warriors and you think it was time for him to go? I think it's a breath of fresh air for them. I mean, some guys need that during their career, you know what I mean? You played at a certain spot for so long, it's a bad feeling about it. I ain't won the last couple years, so a lot of times they're gonna try to find somebody to blame it on. And it fell on Clay, you know what I'm saying? Which, which is unfortunate because he's the reason why they have a big part, why they have all those championships over there. But this is how professional sports goes. Yeah, this is how it goes. And I think it's great for him because he's landed in the spot where, where he can do what he do best. With two of the best one on one players ever in Kyrie and Luka, he could spot up and shoot jumpers. So I think it's a great situation for him because I've been in a situation where I was somewhere and I needed to go to a different team to flourish and be a better player. When I came to Golden State, so it's kind of the same for him. Is Clay a Hooper, a scorer? Clay is a Hooper, yeah. Oh, yeah. He play on both ends. Wnba, what are your thoughts this year? What? A new excitement, new life, new. Sometimes I ain't go front. It feels better than the NBA. What's your thoughts on wnba, the women's game is pure, man. You know what I'm saying? They all played the right way. It's refreshing to watch. It's good to see them start to get their money and get the attention that they deserve. I'm a Hooper, so I'm all for anybody that's hooping that's putting in that work. You know, I'm saying that's grinded all these years to get to the top. I'm happy that they're getting it just due. I think the growth of the game is tremendous. You know, the. The fact that we're talking about it and seeing it on ESPN and all the highlights and. And. And you know, we're doing a piece that I'm excited about on Andrew Reese and Caitlin Clark and just their dynamic that they brought to the game and the vehicle of new fans they brought. And you've heard kind of some of the good and the bad that have come with that. You know, angel spoke out on just the negativity and the racism that'll come from some fans and kind of using them. But is that normal though? Because, you know, it seems like that's normal. Normal in the league. I'm sure that you guys have been called a million more names. Absolutely. Absolutely. You get into a fight. You played in Indiana, man, Utah. Yeah, I just got into trouble in Indiana. That's back when you still had the space between your teeth. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. I had a dude had a cardboard cut out under the gold with me in a jail suit. Oh, no. It was funny too. We was all laughing though. We signed it for him and all. Yeah, no, but I just. I think the growth of the game is tremendous. I think it's going to continue to grow. It's got new eyeballs and new sponsorship and new money and, you know, we just want to continue to celebrate them. There was a video last year in November that went viral of you and Derek Fisher coaching the twins together. That was a really. That video was like. I think the world was like, oh, wow, the world. I'm like, hold up. I was. I remember 24 everything before that. Right. What was it like getting to that point where now we on the court, it's important to do it. But what was that like? I'm saying that me and Fish squashed that summer after it happened. Like that happened at the beginning of one season and then the next summer once I found out he was around and the twins cared about him. Like, we squashed it because it wasn't about my ex and I no more it was about trying to raise these young men. So Fish has been in the boy's life for almost half their life. You know what I mean? So we've always been. And I was real enough to sit down and have a conversation with him, like, bro, still playing. So you're going to see my kids more than me. I need you to teach them the ropes while I'm not around. So to me, you know, once I got over and once we talked about how I didn't agree with the move and it could have went a different way, like, it wasn't about saving that. It was about harvesting, and we got to raise two young black men. So, I mean, I think he's done a great job. I tip my hat to him all the time. I mean, he's. He's their second dad, and he. You know, I coach him in the summer during aau, and he coaches them during high school. So, I mean, when people see us, they still kind of trip out. But, like, we. Our. Our beef was for a season, wasn't even that long. Love that for y'all. Yeah, thank you. It's easy to squash beef when you win the fight. Matt Bowen, Steven Jackson, we appreciate it. Y'all know y'all got some shows, right? Live show today. Yep. Yeah. Philly with million dollars worth of game and a really special guest coming through with them, man. So we're excited to be on the east Coast. Jim Jones, Davies, all them said they was pulling up, so I'm looking to see y see, is it going to be AI in Philly? How you know we going to see? Is that real? That's probably my favorite. To Billy for that. The AI all the smoke conversation. Probably my favorite AI Con wasn't. It was deep. That conversation is in the all the smoke coffee table book, which is out right now. All the stars, all the stories. No apologies. Go get it. That's right. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. It's time for a positive note. What we got. And it's really simple, man. For everybody out there that's always on social media, you know, trying to curate the perfect image, putting a filter on everything. I just want to tell y'all, y'all be so worried about image. You need to clean up your spirit, okay? Some of y'all need to clean up your spirit. Go do some damn work on yourself. I'm not out here, you know, pushing for therapy just because y'all need to go out here and find a therapist. Y'all need to find a spiritual leader. Y'all need to just really clean up your spirit because your spirit is disgusting and nasty. Have a blessed day. Breakfast Club with the best All Inclusive Vacation Deals to Mexico and the Caribbean Booking your getaway with Cheap Caribbean Vacations means you have more freedom to do your deal. Whether you want to enjoy snorkeling, endless margaritas and more, or simply soak up the sun and sand in a tropical paradise, Cheap Caribbean Vacations has your deal for that. Plan and book the exact getaway you want at exactly the right price for you by using our exclusive budget Beach Finder or find a featured all inclusive package to Riu Negril and do your deal at cheapcaribbean.com at David's Bridal Love is in every stitch from the initial sketch to the final details. Each style is designed with exquisite craftsmanship. Every wedding gown, bridesmaid look, prom dress and special occasion style in between features handcrafted details filled with love. Come see the magic in promotion person. Book an appointment and sign up for diamond loyalty to save 15% on your first purchase. Earn points towards special rewards and more at davidsbridal.com Amazon Pharmacy presents Painful Thoughts the guy in front of me in the pharmacy line is halfway through an incredibly detailed 17 minute story about his gout. A story likely more painful than the gout itself. Next time, save yourself the pain and let Amazon Pharmacy deliver your meds right to your door. Amazon Pharmacy Healthcare just got less painful. This is Ashley Iconetti from the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast. Did you know that Future Health can help make weight loss resolutions come true? Future Health makes access to qualified doctors that know GLP1s easier than ever and for less than $3 a day. Get started with a quick 3 minute survey at try FH.com try FH.com try fh.com Future Health is not a healthc care services provider. Meds are prescribed at providers discretion. Results may vary. Sponsored by Future Health. This message comes from Greenlight. Ready to start talking to your kids about financial literacy? Meet Green Light, the debit card and money app that teaches kids and teens how to earn, save, spend wisely and invest with your guardrails and plan place. With Greenlight you can send money to kids quickly, set up chores, automate allowance and keep an eye on what your kids are spending with real time notifications. Join millions of parents and kids building healthy financial habits together on Greenlight. Get started risk free at greenlight.com iheartra.