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TJ Envy.

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That's hilarious. What's happening? Good morning, baby. Appreciate you. Hey, I also want to know. I got two questions. Dj. I mean, Charlemagne the cottage. Yes, I need all your books. I got Shook one. I'm reading that right now. Okay. I got a new book called Get Honest or Die Lying. Why? Small talk sucks. Okay, say less. Say less. And I also want to shout out my wife and my kids. Damn, I thought you was a stud. You sounded like a stud. He did. This whole time, I thought. I listen to y' all every morning. Okay. It's my first time. It's my first time calling, and I got straight Through. That's crazy. Appreciate you, King. Hey, hey, hey, but, hey, but Charlemagne, can you send me a book or something? I got you. We go. I got. I got a pack in here for you. I need. I need that black privilege. Hold on. Don't hang up. Okay, all right. Say less. Say less. I mean. All right, Jeff.

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All right, babe.

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It ain't sound like a stud. I'm confused. Was it a stud at the end? Very much. No, that was the same person. That was the same person the whole time. It did sound. She did sound. I mean, he did sound. Well, he or she could have a wife, regardless if she's a stud. Yeah. I was gonna say, yeah. Wife and kids. But yeah, then she ain't never denied. She had never denied. So she probably. Yeah, so she probably is like, oh, you got me dance for some. But studs don't know they got a sound. No, not all studs. Hello? Oh, sorry. Hello? Britney, do not sound like a stud. You're right. You're right, y' all. Wilbling. Good morning. Good morning.

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Good morning.

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What's up, girl? Nothing, I just. This is Sasha from the 502. I'm coming to see you. The third girl. Hear me? No, your phone breaking up, but yes, you're gonna be in Louisville, Kentucky. Louisville. When? I think she's telling me I said it wrong. As soon as you announced it yesterday, she went and got her tickets. I love that. And I love you, baby. All right. DeAndre. DeAndre. Good morning. Get it off your. Morning. Good morning, guys. I just wanted to let y' all know that I wanted to get off my chest. I'm proud of my fiance. We've been talking about for two years now how she just wanted to get back in shape and, you know, get rid of some of her. Her weight from our children and stuff like that. And she actually did it. That's working hard. I mean, it's something where she get up at 4 in the morning and get there at 5. So that's something. That's something that's hard to do. And just, you know, tap into that quick. Did you. Did you work out with her? Did you work out with her? Did you work out with her? No, I'm. I'm a trucker, so I got my own. My own schedule that I do at night. So she go in the morning, I go at night. I'm gonna tell you why you a real one, man. Because, you know, I always say if you with somebody, you know, whether you're a male or female, and the other person is Fat, but you still love them. But then when they get in shape and, you know, they unlock that hidden character that's inside of them and they. That's. That's an amazing feeling. Well, he didn't say she was fat. He said he just got a little weight. He definitely said she was fat. I know, but he's okay. Lost the weight. Yeah, yeah, she just lost. She just want to lose that little stomach, and she cool as far as the body go, but she just wanted to get rid of the extra looseness, you know what I'm saying? And I understand. All right, brother. We'll have a good one, man. You gonna say her name? Thank you. Her name's T. All right. T, T, T, E, E, T. I bet you when she was bigger, she was tt. Okay.

B (9:53)

Okay.

A (9:54)

Thank you so much, sir.

B (9:55)

Have a good day.

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Yo, this guy's crazy. Hello? Who's this?

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Good morning, guys.

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It's Toya. What's up, Toya?

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Good morning.

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Good morning. It's Toya from North Charlemagne. What's up, cousin? What's up, Toya? How are you? Where you from? I'm doing great. I talked to you guys earlier this summer, and we've kind of touched on the. Mel Robbins, let go. Yes, ma'. Am. And I wanted to kind of circle back to Mimi when she was speaking about, you know, the enemy and how he's trying to use distraction to get us off base on instead of what we really need to be discussing. And that is just how we got to really face the hard truth about the enemy and just standing firm, facing head on, and just trying to stay, you know, led by God so that we're not distracted. Because social media is so much distraction out here. Yes, it is, and it's causing everybody to go be in an uproar. And last time I talked to you guys, asking if I had the podcast already. So it is officially launched, guys. I wanted to give you guys the website if you guys can check it out. Yep. What is it? It's best B X S T I E. Yes, ma'. Am. So instead of the be, it's bx. Hey, I want to tell you some of the best advice I got recently, man. We had a conversation with Andrew Young, and one thing that came from that conversation is don't get outraged. Get organized. Yes. Say that again, Charlie, man, that's why I love you and your mental health awareness and things that you do. We need more of your voice. I tune in every day. You are definitely out the hood. You're my cousin. So we first Cousin. North Carolina. South Carolina. Hey, thank you. But check out the website. Let me know what you guys think. Charlamagne, you took my information down before.

B (11:38)

I haven't gotten my email yet.

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For real? Who took it? Eddie, you took the information? Eddie, get the information. You put me on hold. Yeah. Oh, okay. Well, we still have it then. When I post email, I just want you to check out my podcast website. Okay. And I'm going live soon. I'm not going to go live with the pre recorded episode to just, you know, try to keep down the distraction and noise from being live and comments and things like that. So I'm just tuning out the noise and so that I can really let people know how God has delivered me through betrayal, trauma, bonding, and, you know, upbringing in our childhood, from growing up. Things not being talked about, where we just brush it on the road. Going to chur. Yes, ma'. Am. Ignoring the real, you know, not really ignoring the purpose, but not really having that grounded, you know? You know, like how in black families, it's like everything isn't talked about, but it's hard to not talk about it because when we get older. I'm 43 and it's like a lot of things that I'm trying to relearn now, but I'm allowing God to lead me through the. Through the lesson. I love to hear that. Good luck, mama. Appreciate you for checking in. Absolutely. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, call us up right now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybod. DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got some special guests in the building. Yes, Indeed. We got 803 fresh, home team, and young guy here in the building. What's up? Welcome, fellas. What's going on, everybody? How y' all feeling? Morning, man. Where them fans at? Where they at? Where they at? They bought them. Now, if you don't know 803fresh, of course they got the record right now. That's if you've been out and about, especially in the south, especially hbcu. Boots on the Ground is their song. Congratulations. Boy, is that song moving, man. Thank you, brother. Appreciate that. When did the song actually come out? December 2020 for that was like my Christmas gift to everybody. Now Charlamagne alive. That's something. Been out for three years. I'm like, Charlemagne. No, it hasn't. I was talking about just the whole line dance movement from South Carolina. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's definitely been going on more than three. Yeah, it just started picking up more in like the past year and a half. Absolutely. Yeah. People don't really get to see the line dance, especially on, on the. The east coast as much, but when I, When I DJ everywhere, you get to see it. And I remember I was in Charlotte and a girl came up to me was like, can you play the boots on the ground? I had no idea what she's talking about. I thought it was a mob deep song. I was like, is that a mob deep boots on? I had no idea. It's out to Louis V. Louis V was like, yeah, I'm gonna send it to you right now. Send it to me. And then when I played it, I seen the. It went up, they went up, the fans moving. I said, whoa. You know what's crazy? As crazy as it sounds, the current political climate kind of boosted the record too. Because I remember people started posting saying, you know, we ain't tripping off what this administration is doing. Black people are finding joy learning new line dances. And it would always be boots on the ground with the fans. It took everybody, everybody's mind away from like the, you know, the current, you know, stuff that's going on, man. And so for me, it's like the unity in it. That's what makes it more appealing for me. You know, you got the, you got the two year old, you got the 82 year old, you got the grandmama's aunties. That's what makes it more genuine for me, man. The dope thing about it was a lot of the line dance songs a lot older. Yeah, like you talking 20 years older. Like when you go to a family reunion or wedding or a hbcu, it's always the wobble, wobble slide, electric slide before I let go. Then you play the Beyonce version. And this is something fresh and new. So let's start from the beginning. For people that don't know, yo, who is 803 fresh? Where are you from and how did you get into this thing called the music industry? What's going on, everybody? 803 fresh. The kid live in the building, man. Listen, I'm from a small town in South Carolina called Wagner, South Carolina. One stop sign, one stop light we all share the same dog. Monster corner, bigger than Wagner yeah, yeah, yeah Monster corner bigger than Wagner, man But started off in the church, man. Humble beginnings, man. Started off in the church, man, Singing in the choir or whatever, you know, like the product of. Son, I live away from it, you know, I Went out and I started venturing into, like, more genres. I tapped into pop, I tapped into R B. I rapped a little bit. And then I. I found something soul. Well, really Southern soul found me, man. Been doing it about a year and a half now, man. And it actually saved my life, man. So explain to the people what Southern soul is. Southern soul is a mixture. It has a, like a fine undertone mixture of gospel, blues, soul, all, like, mixed together, meandered together, man. It's solely based in the south, but when you hear it, it's like, feel good music. When you hear it, it's like that music that touch your bones and they, you know, it's a beautiful thing. You just gotta be in one of the, like, one of the events to actually feel it. It changes the environment totally. You saying, we advocate for good time, we advocate for unity in that. And so that's why I. I chose to piggyback on that genre the most now. Yeah, you said it saved your life. How. What were you into before? You know, with being in a rap culture? You say you have the, you know, adapt to that, you know, that rap environment. When I came to Southern soul, I, you know, I was battling some stuff, you know what I'm saying? And it pulled me out of that because of the good feeling that it had, you're saying, made for me. And then my mama was. She was able to be proud of it, you know, when I'm rapping, she don't want. She couldn't halfway understand some of the stuff. So when she first. When she heard my very first Southern soul song that I dropped the car all night long, man, and I got that first confirmation from her. I already knew then that this was the genre for me, you know what I mean? Do you remember the first record that. That made you say, oh, like the one that touched your soul. What Sovereign Soul record touched your soul. Shouts out to King George, man. He's from down my way as well, man. He definitely kicked the door down for us, man. Keep on rolling is like one of those that, you know, really, really, really punched me. And it gave me, like, some inspiration, bro. You know, one of those brothers. I mean, he from South Carolina. I'm saying, he keep the door, like, wide open for us. And when I heard that song, I'm saying, I automatically knew that this was the type of genre that I wanted to be in. Were you surprised how fast this record caught on? Of course. I mean, because it's everywhere and, you know, and. And people are learning to dance quickly. When did you realize how big the record was, Man, I woke up one morning, I checked my Tick Tock. I mean, I had so many notifications on Tick Tock and ig. You're saying I thought somebody had died. So. So when I checked it, whatever, I seen the video. The video was in a spot down my way called S Bar. It's a mecca for, like, the Lion Dance, you're saying. So I seen that, and it was like maybe 20 videos. I went to sleep and I woke up, it was like 500 videos. I knew at that point right then that it was I might have a little something. And over the course of time now, what being what, three months? For almost four months, man. It is past me. So right now I'm playing catch up to the song. Everybody have been trying to put a face with the music, so here I am. Good morning. I feel like that's what in sloot. The King George, I feel like that's what he haven't done yet. He hasn't put a face to his music because everybody listens to, you know, at least down south, you see people play a lot of King George music. And he a young dude. He only, what, 30 something years old, right? Yeah, bro, 30 something. 38. Yeah. But I'm saying I feel like he hasn't done that yet. I wonder why. I don't know. I mean, timing is everything, especially for me. I mean, look how long I've been doing music. I've been doing music for over 20 years. As far as southern soul. I dropped five songs before boost on the Ground, and then it picked up, you know, So, I mean, timing is everything. So y' all definitely stay tuned. Y' all gonna see a lot more of him and a lot more of the Southern soul front coming. When I noticed it got big was when I seen kids doing it. You know, it from old people to kids, it was. Everybody got their kids, yeah, doing it, and it's. It's feel good. It's like music that you had the family reunion and stuff like that. Did anybody try to, like, reach out about signing you or anything like that? IGN blowing up angle. Crazy. Crazy. It's definitely been crazy, man. But, you know, we started this company shouts out to Snake Eyes Music Group. Man, we started this company, you know, from the bottom up. You know, we came with a vision. It was just a vision. And I think that we've done more in a year than a lot of folks have done in, like, five, seven years. Are you. Are you assigned to a major or. No, you're doing Everything independent. We all independent. Oh, so you get everything that you eat? Yeah, I'm proud of us, man. I ain't a lot proud of us. You know, we all learn from each other. You're saying as we move, we learn, we grow. And shouts out to young guy, man, you know, that's why I brought him. He's one of the united fronts that we stand with as far as Southern soul. They accepted me with open arms, man, and they had been doing it, you know, prior to me, but they showed me the roles that definitely wouldn't stand your own game, and I can appreciate that, man. So everything independent. So we're gonna. I'm gonna entertain something, but just not right now. How long have you been young guy? Young guy? Man, I've been young guys for, For a long time. Thirty years, you know what I'm saying? Like, I throw up out there. We was just talking, I said, I'm going to change my name to Uncle Guy in a minute, man. They going to be like that. That would be crazy. Cuz folks see me, they'll say, you know, you, you a rapper? I'm like, nah. Then they. I get on stage and I'm singing some souls and they be like, damn, you know, I ain't expect that, but that I kind of kept my name back from the younger days when I was rapping, man. So when I jumped into music, my story kind of, you know, similar to his, you know, I've been. I've been rolling in the Southern soul game probably about two and a half years now, and power social media. I had a record that, you know, I was singing in the garage and posted it and changed my life, you know what I'm saying? Instantly. So yeah, man, So I kind of. I was tapped in on the rap side. You're like, yeah, man. Came up in the church, you know what I'm saying? Tried different things as far as just me physically doing music, man. I stepped away from music almost 14 years. So when I finally just made up my mind, hey, I'm finna get back in the studio, get it rolling, you know what I'm saying? Professionally, record me a song, sit down and that record, you know what I'm saying? Two record later, hey, I was driving trucks, man. I ain't drove a truck in almost a year and a half now, man. So how'd y' all connect? Man, we. We met a couple. A couple about two years ago. Yeah, I think my very first show, I did Natchez, I think. Yeah, Natchez, Mississippi, man. My first show kind of nervous, you saying, me personally, you know, I had just started with Southern soul. So bro came. He hollered at me, saying. He gave me that little pep talk or whatever you're saying, I show up my shoulders. I went and did it. He came to me like, man. Like, young guy, man, what I. What I. Because I was kind of moving pretty good then, you know what I'm saying? I had a record that was. That was keeping me busy. And he was like, man, what. What I gotta do? What advice can you give me? I'm like, man, you know, keep grinding, bro. You gonna get that one, and you gonna know you got it. So when I heard that Boost on the Ground, I called him. I said, you getting ready to be a rich. I knew it from the first 10 seconds. 10 seconds of the song. I was like, man, this. This finna go crazy. Now. I just see, you know, look on social media, Shaq dancing too. Or you got. Yeah, like, man, that is crazy. You know what I'm saying? So it's a blessing. And, man, I just. I'm proud of my brother. And we just trying to keep it going. What inspired Boots on the Ground, though? Like. Like when you sat down and said, you heard that beat, and you're like, this is what I want to write about, man. I tell the story all the time, man. Listen, I had a show in Phoenix City. It was in the back of the van, whatever. I had a chance to experience my first trail ride. Went to trail ride. You saying a couple of ladies had fans or whatever. It was hot. So I, you know, they got fans. So I got a chance to go to my second trail ride, and I ain't see no fans. So I pulled the question, where them fans at? You know what I'm saying? So with Boost on the Ground, Boost on the Ground is already aligned. That terminology you're saying. So you know, when they say boost on the ground, you know, it's about to have a party, we just touched down type of deal. So I just really merged the two ideas, and it became a good marriage. What's the trail ride for the people who don't know? Listen, man, trail rides is, you know, ATVs, horses. You're saying that line dancing, it's a whole, like, combination of all good things. It's definitely a culture. It's not really just an event. And that's why I feel like Southern soul and line dancing is a perfect mixture. You know what I mean? It's a great marriage. You know, it piggybacks off of one Piggybacks off of the other. And if you ever caught that trail right now. And man, I promise you, you can have a good time. You might get a little dusty, but I promise you, you're gonna have a good time. Now, every time you make a song, is it a line song now or. No? Okay. Yeah. That's one thing I didn't want to get caught in. I didn't want to get caught in, you know, just being the line. The line dance at the boot. At the boot. So, you know, and I've been thinking about you're saying names for like a. EP or album, whatever you're saying. And I really wanted to be versatility because I want to show them on all skills. I got different skills. Music. Yeah, but you could do it. Like. Remember how Jermaine Dupree did back in the day? He like, he had the. The all the. What was it called it, the Beat All Stars, where it was just one album. Just doing all the up tempo. You're talking about like the like Shorty Swing My Way. He had a whole album of that. Then he had a whole album different ways of doing things. So you could do that like an anthem like that. Because your HBCU is going to be crazy this week. Spring flings, homecomings, all that. They should start booking you now to try to get the cheapest prices. Probably book, man. I got like schedule crazy. Yeah, that's lit. Yeah, that's what's up, man. Listen, man, definitely, I know you don't want to just fall into the line dance, you know, genre of music, but it's like nobody has made any that are great since like the five that we get. That's the last one I could be.

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Yeah.

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But like. But none since then. And it's like, it's. It's kind of hard to do, like, you know what I mean? So for you to just come up with one and just do it just off of what you felt, you got to do that more like. I. I'm tired of that. I feel like my opinion. I feel like Lion Dance is like the new disco. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's a big thing in the black culture that, you know what I'm saying, we just trying to shine light on because you got. You got people who, y'. All, you know, y' all from the Cedar, man. It'll make people from the city, man. I'm gonna go. Give me some boots. They're gonna buy me a van, cowboy hat. It's just. It's a culture that they shine a light on so people can experience. So it's just lion dances. It's been around for a while but like, you know, it's ain't got bigger, man. They got selling South Carolina to be 7, 000 people out there. Yeah. You feel me? African music too. African music has it, has it as well. They got African lines, they got line dancing. Like Jerusalem is a line dance. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, man. That's the ill thing though. The artist, like, it's not like you created the dance. No, you see, that's. That's the sweetest thing about it too. You said, oh, you didn't create the dance. No, the people. Oh, I didn't know. People, they choose it. They choose it whether it's going to be. You said a lot of dance to it or not. You know what I'm saying? So when they seen that on Tick Tock, it was like four or five dances, different dances to it, you're saying? I reposted one shouts out to Trey Little when I posted it. Everybody took on, you know, saying to that one because it was real easy. It wasn't tamiya ish, you know, to me it got by. I'm still confused with that. You know what I mean? That's a line dance. Yeah, it's a line dance. But they do a line dance. That's a line dance. It's like the cursive of line dancing with that one. You gotta be your profile. Yeah, yeah. That's definitely not intermediate anyway. So you had to learn your own dance basically. Yeah. And I can't dabble here. So you just picked that one and was like, this is the one we rocking with. Because if 20 people sent different dances, that's why I said and everybody be in sync. The people chose it, man. Boots on the Ground was not intended to be a lie dance song. It was just blessed to be that way. Even with the fan. Bang bang, like with the fan. That's just something that you do when you hot, you know. And I didn't know that fans, like the fans were like a big part of the, you know, the, the trail rising until I made the song with it. And now I hear like, you know, 10.

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Or save even faster with mobile coupons you can use right now@valpack.com Val Pack there's definitely something in it for you and 20 different songs with fans. Now you saying so it definitely is a part like a big important part of the culture. So I, I think I just revived it. Well that's a church fan. Oh the church fan too. They use the church. I think the, the sales on church fans is at an all time high right now. Yeah. Damn church fans. You know Amazon, when I, when I first came up with the, with the song or whatever, they was just clacking fans. If you go on Amazon Right now, they Boots on the Ground fans. You got Louis Vuitton got fans. But that's when I knew y' all was getting. I was like, oh, they out of here. So it definitely has been impactful to the culture, man. I'm just proud to be a part of it. Yeah, well, they're gonna be waiting forever for them Teemu fans, I tell you that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. About a thousand out there right now. But everybody gonna be waiting for new music. Do you got more after Boots on the Ground? Tell you something. I got so much music, I'm saying, and I got music like, before. I got a, you know, a previous catalog. I got five songs that I dropped. Like I said, I've only been in a year and a half now. I mean, but as far as the catalog, man, I got a widespread catalog that's getting ready to come. It was just the. The timing we was waiting on, you know? I mean, so I think it's the perfect time for everybody to see me, and, you know, what I got to offer. Versatility is coming. What's the toughest challenge about being an artist from South Carolina? The weight that's on my back, you're saying? Because not only do I. I mean, yeah, boosting the ground is for me, but I stand with a lot of weight that I'm carrying as far as, like, Southern soul as a whole. Because, see, this is what my main part is. And I ain't gonna lie. This is the reason why I came here. You said this morning, I want to make Southern soul that main genre. You know, it's been, you know, sublime. Like, it's been, like, undertone for so long. And, you know, that chitlin circuit has been going on. Like, you got greats that came through that chitlin circuit, like Tyrone Davis, Marvin Seeds, James Brown, there's Muddy Waters. All these guys become under that chitlin circuit, man. And really had a. A catalyst for it has been brought to the front. So I take myself to be a martyr in that, you said. I want to be able to display that as being a main genre and showing that, you know, we come with a united front. I got Shamika, Joe Quill out there. You're saying, grown, grown ass woman. I got Frank Johnson out there. You can hate on me. I got Young Guy right here. You know what I'm saying? Like, take heed. These are all very impactful songs to the culture. And when I bring my Boots on the Ground, I want to bring them as well. So that's probably, like, the biggest thing as far as, like, you know, I'm carrying that weight, and I want to be a good advocate for them. Well, you know, you got to get yourself all the way through the door first, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's. That's why I think a lot of people falter a little bit, because they want to represent for the whole state, and they want to bring everybody with them. And usually all those people end up weighing them down before you get to where you need to be. I think that with. With me, how I present myself, how I carry myself, I carry myself as, you know, hey, he's a strong front by himself. You know, it's just. I want to be a good representative. Representative for him. You know, it's not that I'm. I'm pulling them up. You're saying the way that I walk, my character is what. It puts it out there. Like, oh, oh, I like him. Let me see what they got going on. You know what I'm saying? I let my walk. You're saying, speak for him. I mean, it's okay. I'm having a moment right now. You got trapped, Dicky. Yeah, man. Shout out to Trap, man. You know, Black Zach. Yeah, man. Little balls. Rest in peace. Speaker knockers. Like, it's a lot of people doing it, but I. I really love what the Southern soul is doing because that's a whole different genre, and we. And we call it the chitlin circuit. But really, what I call it is the heart and soul of black America. Definitely, bro. Like. Like, that's what all the majority of black people in America are in the South. Don't advocate for violence, man. We advocate for unity. Like, good timing, you know what I'm saying? You just got to pay attention to a lot of this music, man. And it's, like, real life relatable stuff, bro. It ain't, you know, fabricated, you know, saying it's. It's real life relatable things. And I think that's why people gravitate, like, towards it a little bit more, because I'm able to. You're saying, oh, yeah, I'm going through that right now, you know, I mean, so I think that's why everybody's been gravitating towards it, but it's definitely a movement, man. Well, tell them where to follow you. 800, three fresh. Y' all can follow me on all streaming platforms everywhere, man. Just type in 803 Fresh. You said you can get my music from Apple Music, Spotify, your local bootleg man, flea market. You can get them everywhere. I definitely appreciate y'. All. Listen, man. Charlemagne, I appreciate you, man. Listen, always love for the home team. Yeah, that's right. You definitely putting South Carolina on the map as well. What you're doing. DJ Envy, man. Appreciate you. You say just Larry. I definitely appreciate you. Thank you. Pretty young guy. Y' all know Guy, man, follow me on all platform, man. Young guy. I'm pretty much the same on everything. Check me out on all music stream platforms. Hey, hey, we got a lot coming, man. 20, 25. We're gonna finish it out next year. Gonna be even bigger, man. I'm representing Mississippi, man. South Carolina. We're just all trying to put it together, man. Absolutely. All righty, guys. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning show. The Breakfast Club. Charlemagne. The God. Just hilarious. DJ Envy. Jess and Envy on here today, but Lauren LaRosa is. And we got a very special guest. Her sophomore album is finally out today. Am I the drama? Big Body Cardi B. What's happening?

B (35:47)

What is going on, y'? All?

A (35:48)

How you feel? Morning sickness?

B (35:52)

No, no. Okay, this one is. I don't. I really ain't got that this time around. I don't know if it's my age or. I don't know, because it's like. I was like, girl, please.

A (36:01)

You know, we had. We got a whole baby shower up here for Cardi. We got Golden Corral from the Bronx.

B (36:06)

A real one, though. Not just. Not just like. Like, just catering. They got me cakes and slushies and a whole big yes food. I can. I can't. Oh, I can't wait till this interview. I was smelling it. I was like. I could smell some chicken. And my security guard talking about, like, it was some noodles. That ain't no noodles.

A (36:28)

They thought she was tripping.

B (36:29)

Yeah, I could smell it.

A (36:30)

You ever ate that golden gravel in the Bronx?

B (36:32)

I never ate at that Golden Carab.

A (36:34)

Okay.

B (36:35)

I went. I forgot what state I went to that I did a golden corral.

A (36:39)

And you got the baby shower chair.

B (36:40)

Yeah, I got the baby shower chair. Bring the Burberry shirt down.

A (36:46)

Let me ask you a question. When you look back, why did it take eight years to drop a second album? And you can't blame being pregnant because you're pregnant now.

B (36:53)

No, it. And that's why I've been wanting to tell people like, it was never because I was pregnant, because my mouth is not pregnant. You know what I'm saying? I'm just very, like, picky. Everybody always said that I dropped the ball when I didn't Release an album after whopping up. But to be honest with you, I only had like six songs and I was trying, but I didn't like nothing. And it's like it should be my, it shouldn't be my second album. And then like just a whole bunch of things that was just happening in my life and I just felt like I wasn't ready.

A (37:22)

How many songs you thought you needed? You had joints. You had press out at that time. Press was hard because Invasion of privacy was only 13.

B (37:28)

Yeah. But I, I just feel like Invasion of Privacy, I just didn't put a lot of, like, thought in it. Like, I was just like, I have to put an album out. I'm about to have a baby. But then like the second one, I, I, I think I overthinked it.

A (37:45)

But see, that's what I'm saying. That's a good thing. When you was putting out the gangster bitch mixtapes.

B (37:49)

Yeah.

A (37:49)

And Invasion of Privacy, you wasn't thinking about it. It was no pressure. Like, just going to have fun.

B (37:54)

Yeah. I don't know why. I just overthink it. Even. Even. I just feel like as you get older too, you just overthink too much and it's just like you just gotta do it.

A (38:01)

Do you feel like you're still proving yourself as an artist? Are you past that?

B (38:04)

Oh, absolutely. Especially like now with this whole second album thing. It's just been like a whole nasty debate for the past two months. And it's like kind of have to prove it to them, but it's like kind of don't have to prove nothing to nobody. But I'm motivated. I feel really good.

A (38:25)

Okay.

B (38:25)

What?

A (38:26)

You, the debate you talking about you. Which debate? Because there's always debates about you.

B (38:30)

Yeah. Is it that people feel like the album is too late or they don't.

A (38:34)

Think that the music is going to be good? Like, what is the debate?

B (38:38)

Exactly. It's just so, it's just so many different things that, that, that I hear. Like, for example, like my numbers prediction or like, if I don't hit a certain number, like, the label is going to drop me. Or like, if I'm a priority in the label and all of these talks and it's just like, what are you talking about? Like, that is, that's, that's not true. Like, a lot of people think that I'm not gonna go on tour. And it's like, honey, Live nation gave me a check. I'm going. There's, there's a, there was a check that it was given and There was a check that I gotta go get. I'm going to get that check. So what's. I saw you post a video, we.

A (39:19)

Covered it this morning. Of your body preparation for the tour. And you talk about the stretching and all that, but what's going to be your ment. Preparation? Cuz I heard you say you're gonna be leaving the babies home.

B (39:30)

Yeah, but like, it's just. This is like my fourth. This is my fourth rodeo. This ain't my first second baby. This is my fourth baby. Like, you know, I. I just had a baby last year and I do have a lot of videos. I was working out while I was pregnant, like on my last weeks. And when I gave birth, like in four days, I just felt like so, like, like nothing. So it's like I not only am I gonna prepare myself for the tour, like I said, I just have to prepare myself, like physically so I could just feel good. My second baby, he too big. He broke me. My first one. I had to stitch my last one down there. The cat.

A (40:09)

Oh, she ain't had no kids yet.

B (40:11)

Yeah. I ripped. I ripped.

A (40:13)

You didn't know that happens? No. Yeah. How did you pee? Huh? Oh, my God. Cardi, hold my hand.

B (40:22)

It was hard. Yes.

A (40:24)

I'm so sorry.

B (40:24)

But, but, but that's what I'm saying. Like, it's like now things are just a little different and I'm more experienced. Like, the third one was so easy. So I'm expecting this one to be as easy as. Well, in the. In the name of the Lord. Like, that's why I'm like, I did. I just did last year. I could do it.

A (40:41)

Yeah.

B (40:41)

Yeah.

A (40:42)

I know a lot of women who look at you and they say, Cardi knows how to balance it all. She got the kids, she got the career. Have there ever been a moment where you questioned if you could have it all?

B (40:50)

I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna make it. If I want something, I'm gonna make it happen. It's just really like the. How bad you want it? If you really wanted that bad, if you want it bad, you get up and you go get it. Ain't no complaining. Ain't no crying about it. I'm tired. I'm just, I'm tired every day. My feet hurt every single day. But it's like, like, okay, if you want this to be successful, you gotta get out there. Like, it's like, you know, crying, you know, this. If I want it. Like, it's like, go get it. Like, it's like this is what you chose. Like, it is what it is.

A (41:24)

Like, what about people around you, though? Because, you know, it's still a business. So they was like, oh, my God, she's pregnant again with this one.

B (41:29)

So my label and Live Nation, like, they asked me, like, it's like, hey, you know, we can move the album to the beginning of the year, and you could, like, tour in the summertime. I was like, no, I'm going to put out my album in September, and we're gonna go on tour on February. I got things to do in the summertime. This is gonna be the schedule. And I'm. And I'm promising you guys that I'm not gonna let y' all down. And it's like, okay, we trust you. And I've been showing them that. It's like, I'm down and I'm doing it, and they're very motivated, and we've been like. Like a team. Like, it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're doing it. We. The day starts off rocky and cranky, but then when. When things are turning good and we see the numbers that we see, the vision is like, wow, I'm motivated. I can't wait to push. So they always been supportive of me, though. They never been, like, it's like they know. They know when I want something, my work ethic, if I really want it, they know that I'm going to do it. The only time that I just be not giving him my all is when I'm going through, like, mental distress. And people, like, don't understand that. So people would think that it's because of the kids or because I'm just whatever. No, when I'm in mental distress, I don't want to do nothing, but I feel very. Like, ain't nothing really bothering me right now. Like, I'm good.

A (42:50)

That's good.

B (42:51)

I'm good. Have you always been that in tune with, like, your mental of, like, I need to take a break from work.

A (42:56)

Because it's easier now because Cardi B. Is established. She's the stupid star. But when.

B (43:00)

In the beginning, how did you deal with, like. Because we watch you go through things.

A (43:04)

From all of your career. How did you. What's the difference now?

B (43:08)

I didn't even. You know what? I didn't even notice that I was taking so many long breaks. Like, I would tell myself, like, it's like, you know what? I need to go on a hiatus for, like, two months. Next thing you know, it's like, damn, I haven't put out a Song in eight months and nine months. And I wasn't even realizing it, that it was so long. And I was. Because I was overthinking. I was over stressing. Or sometimes I was really so sad that I couldn't even like, open my mouth or think to, like, record. Like, I just was so unmotivated that you, like, telling yourself, like, it's like, I need a break. And then it's like the break turns into so long. And you just be like, damn, what, oh, what did I did that whole time? I get to the next step. Yeah. And. And I didn't even notice or realize that it was taking that long. I was just overthinking. I was just too tired. I was just too tired of stress. So that was. That was what's messing me up.

A (44:01)

What's. What's stressing you out, though? Like, is it like the industry, like, you find yourself comparing yourself to other people?

B (44:08)

It's not really compare. It's the industry. Relationships. Just. Just so many things. Like. And then, like, it will affect me for, like, it won't just affect me for like a day because some people will. It's real easy for people to be like, oh, just give yourself 72 hours. Sometimes it will mess you up for like a week or so or longer. Especially if it's. If it's. If it's heartache. Like, it's like you. You boy, you can't fight that. You really can't fight that.

A (44:36)

So it's like grief.

B (44:37)

It's like grief.

A (44:38)

Yeah.

B (44:39)

So I don't even know, but I just know that I got somebody there always telling me, like, you go, girl. And I'm here. I feel really good. I'm in a good space right now. I don't feel like I'm sad. I don't feel like I'm nothing. I'm. I feel like it's like, I need to get this right now. Right now.

A (44:56)

Did this album feel therapeutic to you? Because, you know, when I hear songs like Dead right out the gate, Killing these hoes, you started with dead and you ended with killing these holes. So then did that feel good to just get in there and express that.

B (45:10)

Some songs in the album, it was not good songs to do. And then like some songs like that, it. It is me talking about, like, on some. Some cockyish. Like, I was really angry because I feel like a lot. A lot of these girls were trying me and it's like I don't like feeling tried because it's like, I feel like I. I have beef with so many girls growing up that is really like that. And it's like, I know you are not really like that, but you feel like you like that because right now I'm going through this hate thing on social media. So you think you could take advantage and everybody's gonna take your side, but I'm gonna let you know, like, it's like me, you, you, you, you not nowhere near me when it comes to artistry, when it comes to nothing, when it comes to the street. Like, girl, I. I'll. I'll crush you. Like, you, you a little puff me. It's not even about. But, but no, it's not even about being. Because a lot of these girls, they don't care if you not. They know they're never gonna see you. And they're not really fighters, but they like antagonizers, like, and it's like they get off that. And it's just like, you gotta. You gotta know when to come at somebody.

A (46:27)

I'm.

B (46:27)

I'm gonna let you keep trying me, thinking when you try me, when you, when you at a certain position, and then that's when I'mma play my position. I'm gonna. And I'm gonna remind you right there, because there's. Sometimes a girl will come out and everybody love her and everybody's cheering for her and everybody's rooting for her, and then they will try you at that moment. But if you say something back, you will look like you're hating. And I'm not hating. I just peep that you trying me. But I'm gonna stay silent. Because one thing about it, all the all artists, me, every artist, you're going to experience a different tie. It happened to all of us. No matter what genre you in, like is going to happen. And when that happened, I'm gonna remind you how you tried me for real. And I'm gonna remind you, like, it's like you see why I have lasted so long. Because you think you're so bright. You think you're bright, but you're not that smart. I might, I might talk away, I might do this and that, but it's like, I'm very. I'm smart. I'm very. I'm very bright. I know how to play. And now it's time for me to get you. Because you was. You was trying me at a bad time.

A (47:41)

What are you talking about? I said on the song, pretty and petty. You come out the gate.

B (47:44)

Out of the gate. Yeah.

A (47:47)

All right, so you said in the song, you, you waited. You told her, you were gonna do it on your terms, when you were ready. You do the song. You drop it. At this point, though, like, I mean, so that reignites everything, because I remember y' all were going back and forth. Your whole thing was you felt like you just doing this because you want my platform, you want attention, I'm gonna give it to you, and then I'm done with it. This reignites it all. Like, why even address her again on the alb?

B (48:08)

Because. Because you mentioned my kids trying to be cute. There's. There's gonna be times that, like, people throw shots at you or, like, there's gonna be times, like, you know, like, when she did her little diss, and it was trash. Like, it's like, it could have been trash. People dragged you. And I couldn't leave it at that. But it's like, everything on social media is gonna be seen. So when my kids grow up one day and they see that you mentioned them, and they're gonna ask me, I saw what you said, what you did. I'm not gonna tell my kids. Like, you know, I just felt like she took the high road because she lost because people wasn't on her side. Now, I'm not saying that to my kids. I'm like, you see how I violated. You know what it is? I feel like last year, every artist was, like, beefing, girl. Like, every. Every artist was beefing. And I thought. And I think she was gonna get a moment out of that because she thought that I was copying her. And I had a conversation with her. First, we was cursing each other out. Then I had a real conversation with her, and I was like, listen, I'm not copying you. I don't even look at you. Like, you. You're not a person that I look at or I'm inspired by. And the conversation ended. Then she kept going because of a music video. And it's like, oh, girl, you definitely not on the mood board. I. Whatever. More or less. Then this, right? It'd be a lot of funny behind the scenes. This producer that was working with, like, my ex, he was going around saying that I was messing with a guy, and it was.

A (49:30)

There was allegedly a sex tape or something, right? Yes.

B (49:32)

And I was like, what, me? Hell, no. Hell, no. But it was a lie, and it was ridiculous, and a can say no damn stuff on. Because I got messages when I first started talking to him, and I was like, I have to get to the bottom of who's saying that. She was trying to plant a seed that I was cheating on this guy with a blood. You think that I'm. I'm. You're not from the hood, so to you, because I'm blood, you think that I'm like, oh, I'm pressed to mess with. That's nothing to me. That's like being around Dominicans or something. Like, it's like, that don't mean nothing to me. Everybody's mad ball. Everybody. This. Everybody. And then. And then this is New York. One thing about a New York person or anybody, they're gonna talk. You was really trying to even mess things up in my home. And it's like, damn, you hated on me so much. You hated on me so much. And I kept saying, like, it's like, prove it. Prove it. Show me a text. Show me when I flirted. Because when I'm loyal, I'm very loyal. Like, I don't text. I don't flirt. I don't even look at people in the eye because I don't even want you to get that. I even like you. And you was doing all that. And it's like, I. I got you. And it's like. And I know it was confirmed that it was her that was going around with that rumor, because when she did her this, she kept saying, like, oh, why say how you. How you like a cheater some. That I forgot how. What she was saying, but it's like, so say. Say who I was. Say who I was dealing with. Say it. Oh, you just made that up. You just made that up. You just made that up. You was being messy, and there's that. All right, now I got a wet belt for you, and you ain't even gonna know when it's coming. Have you ever got hit with a wet belt?

A (51:16)

Not a wet one. My daddy beat me with an incision code and made me take a bath, so it's kind of the same thing.

B (51:22)

No, it's. It's when you. It's when you in the shower and. And your mom find out something, and then she just whipped your ass and your body's wet.

A (51:29)

Yeah.

B (51:29)

I might hit you with a wet belt. And I. I told. And then it's like, you. And then you thought it was cute to put my kid's name. I'm gonna get you.

A (51:37)

And you did it the right way, though. You put it out. Put it on your album.

B (51:39)

You know, she should be thinking Blossom, because I did that song last year, but I was so nasally because I. I had. I was so. You need to thank her, knowing you get sick when you're pregnant. You. You can't recover for, like, three weeks. Throw. Be messed up nose. Be stuffy feed. Be fat.

A (51:58)

When the Internet be coming for you, Cardi, whether it's the fans or haters or blogs, does it make you, like, second guess sharing your truth, or does it make you feel like, you know what I'm gonna be? I'm gonna be more unfiltered. I'm gonna talk more.

B (52:08)

Sometimes yes and sometimes no. Like, sometimes I just can't help myself. And I'm like, I'm gonna say what I want to say. But sometimes I'd be like, I. I gotta. I just gotta reserve myself because I don't want people to be like, damn. You just. You just always, always, always on that. You just always, always on that. So sometimes I'd be like, all right, whatever. And then sometimes I'd be like, yo, you know what? Like, you. Why you on my. Like, stop, stop. Like, you. You. You. You taking advantage now. Are you playing with me? And sometimes people will be like, oh, don't give them clowns. Like, nah, I'm gonna give you the cloud today. Like, I need to get this. My chest. I got a on my chest.

A (52:45)

Damn. That's what Diddy said. Let me ask you a question. Like, you say, what's the biggest thing motherhood has taught you about yourself? That. That, like, the fame and money couldn't.

B (52:59)

Motherhood is hard. No matter how much money you have, no matter how much. How much you plant. Motherhood is hard. It also makes me. It almost makes me, like, not want to, like, lose anything. I don't, like, I don't want to lose. Like, I don't want to be a quitter. Like, I don't ever want my kids to be like, oh, so why you ain't did this? I was like, because people was being so harsh on me, and it's like. It's giving them an example to be. To, like, be like, all right, so if people are being mean to you, you automatically quit. Like, you automatically finish. I don't want to do this no more. Like, no. And I don't know something about it, about motherhood that is just like. It's just so beautiful. I love them kids so bad.

A (53:43)

But you were making this album.

B (53:45)

Which one of these songs, like, were.

A (53:47)

What was the hardest emotionally for you to make and rehear and be in the studio doing.

B (53:52)

Man, are you worried? And. Because I was going through it at that time, like, I was going. It's not like. It's like, oh, I was talking about something that happened in 2018 or whatever. It was happening at that time, and I was doing it at that time, and the hook was just so beautiful that it was supposed to be like a female singing the hook, but nobody was singing it with. With that emotion that Dougie did it. And I'm like, I don't care if it doesn't make sense. I'm keeping Dougie and wait.

A (54:22)

So in getting into those emotions and the things that you were experiencing while making the album, did that put you in a place where.

B (54:29)

Because from what I've been seeing, anyway.

A (54:31)

You tell me if I'm wrong. The way that you started talking about the divorce and offsetting all the things and the way he started now, you guys, it seems like it's a lot.

B (54:39)

More peaceful on both ends. No, it's not.

A (54:41)

No.

B (54:42)

No, it's not peaceful.

A (54:43)

I was gonna ask, did the album help? But no, it's not respectful.

B (54:45)

What is it? It's not peaceful at all. I don't even. I can't even talk about it because it's like. It's like Court thing, but it's like. It is not peaceful at all. It is not. It is.

A (54:58)

When you heard his song Move on, Offsets, Move on. What'd you think?

B (55:02)

I laugh. Whatever. You let the world think what they want to think. People see it. People see what's up. I don't buy nobody. They can't prove that I buy them.

A (55:12)

Did it hurt your feelings when you said you couldn't cook?

B (55:14)

No, because you know that. But now you got. You. Now you got all these that cook for you. Why are you still bothering me?

A (55:27)

And you used to be on Tick Tock.

B (55:29)

You. You never said that you could. Like, you were Chef Boyardee.

A (55:32)

You be on Tick Tock, making your, you know, cooking what you cook and doing your thing.

B (55:35)

Sometimes if. If somebody asked me or somebody told me, like, is that I want. I want you to cook for me. I. This is what I require and stuff like that. I'll do it. I will do it. But that was never like, a. A requirement. So it's like now you act. Now you acting like that was an issue. Now you got these that could. Why you. Why. Why can't you sign the papers and these cooking.

A (56:00)

Absolutely. After everything, do you think loving marriage is still worth it?

B (56:03)

I think it's worth it.

A (56:04)

Or you get married again. Really?

B (56:09)

I will get married again, but not as quick as I got married the last time. But it's a lot. It's. It's really a lot. It's actually disgusting.

A (56:22)

Do you do you find any peace in independence? Like when you just alone, like you're not in a relationship or nothing? Or do you have to have be in a relationship with somebody?

B (56:34)

When when I was, when I was like completely single. Like when I just was completely single. As y' all could see, I was outside with my friends, I just had my baby and I just had to get out of that funk. And it's like sometimes it feel good and then sometimes like you be in the club, like I just told that to somebody. Like you'll be in the club and it's 3:30 and you're drunk and you're realizing that.

A (56:59)

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B (60:53)

It's like damn, I'm going home, I'm lit and I literally not even having somebody to or something because sex is just sex. You don't have nobody to talk to and you really feel alone. And that is a feeling that just comes out of nowhere. Like if you hear Adele my little love like at the end she's really saying it. Like it's like I'm cool with being alone. I like to be alone. I like to watch movies and be alone. But today I just feel so. I feel so lonely and I feel like am I gonna be like lonely forever? You get those feelings when you're like alone. But don't let that get you desperate neither. You know what I'm saying? Don't let start dating somebody and give them the box. And then it's like you gave a box to buy that is gonna ghost you. Ghost you and stuff like that. Like. Or just like it was like, oh, I gave. I gave to the wrong.

A (61:49)

You can't even do that no more because you cardi b. All these niggas want to tell on you.

B (61:53)

I definitely can't do that do that. And. And it's not even that. I definitely can do that. Like, is that I don't really like people. I'm. I'm really a person that is like, I don't really like guys like that. Like, not guys like I'm some gay or something. But it's like.

A (62:08)

You say on the album, you be gay for the right.

B (62:09)

Girl though, I'll do something with a girl, but I could never be. I'm not a relationship with a girl type of girl.

A (62:16)

Gotcha.

B (62:16)

It's just not my thing. I'm sorry, girl. Like, I need somebody to go protect me. You can do, baby girl. What was dating car.

A (62:26)

She sound like dame dash. I'm sorry, girl. No, I'm sorry, girl. He is. I'mma get you out of here, cuz. I know you want to eat, but I. I haven't seen you spazzing online a lot lately. What made you slow that down? You ain't spazing a minute.

B (62:49)

I kind of did like. I kind of did like two weeks ago because I feel like I'm getting picked on again.

A (62:55)

What was it two weeks ago? I don't remember that.

B (62:57)

It was. It was kind of mild. Okay, probably like two weeks. Probably like a week. But I don't know. I just been so. I just. I just been so busy.

A (63:07)

You were talking about the, like the. It was going to like the podcasters and the blogs and people reviewing and talking about your musically, right? Was that it?

B (63:14)

It's not even talking about me. It's talk about everything. Like, everything. Like, you know, like, you guys, you guys talk about. You guys, you. You guys talk about people. But it's like imagine if you like come every single day and talk about one person every single day, every single time. And then it's like, all right, you don't do it for this person, so why you do it to me? But. And it's constant. And it's constant and it's every week. Like, it's like, all right, like, like, what's up now? You got my Attention for real. Is that why you did this?

A (63:46)

Rollout this? Because a lot that from that the conversation has been cardi did the upper brow outlets. Like you sat with Gayle King, you.

B (63:53)

Sat with Kelly Rowland, you're here with.

A (63:55)

The Breakfast Club, but you didn't do a lot of upper brow. I mean, but we are, we're the intersection between the righteous and the ratchet.

B (64:00)

But no, but these are like, these are my people. I know these people. People feel like you didn't because of.

A (64:05)

That rant that like, like we've seen people do have been going to a lot of like podcasts and they're sitting. Which I know you, you're going to do a stream, right?

B (64:11)

I. I have, I did, I did podcast though. They just haven't come out yet. Oh, okay. I did do some podcasts, but I'mma do podcasts with people that, that like me. Like, why do I got to sit with podcasters that I don't like? I'm going. I'm like, like, for what? Like, if you don't like me, like, why am I going to go to your. Like, so I could like, what put. Prove. Prove what to you? Like, you don't like me and it is what it is. Then there are you pregnant?

A (64:37)

So you can't swing on nobody if you want to.

B (64:39)

No, I don't hit people. Then like, I see a lot of people going like to streamer stuff. I really like. I like Thano. So I'm planning to, to to do a stream with him. Like when I real soon though. Not like right now because I have so much on my schedule. Like when I feel like genuine love, like is that I'm gonna go to him. I'm not really like a streamer person. Like, I'm not up to date to that because I'm just old. Like I'm 33, but I know the younger kids like it, but it's like, it's not really like my thing. Like even on Tick Tock and stuff. Like, you don't see me doing Tick Tock dances. Not because it's something wrong with it. I'm just, I'm just a little older and I just don't know how to do that. Do this video ten goddamn times. I'm tired already. Like what I like and what I see on my, on my timeline that's up, that's who I'm gonna go to. Like, if I like you, I'm gonna.

A (65:34)

Go to you and you pregnant. Like, you ain't got time to be sitting down with nobody. You don't.

B (65:38)

I guess I cannot even say pregnant because I've been doing everything. I have literally done everything and anything. Like, even after those days in court, I was still doing like, I. I have 6am mornings to all the way. Like, today, Like, I woke up today at 6am My night is gonna finish at 3am because that's when my party finished. Then tomorrow, I have to wake up and I have to do these meet and greets, and I have to meet about four or five thousand people. Like, it's like, it just don't stop for me. But it's like, I'm not gonna go to podcasters that I don't like. Why am I gonna go sit down with you? You don't like me. You talk mad about me. You constitute to my pain. You constitute, like, to my pressure. So why am I gonna sit down with your ass? I'm gonna sit down with people. Not like, oh, because we were like, oh, you sit down with people that kiss your eyes. No, I like positive, that make me feel good. I like people that be like, you know what? I like them. I can hang out with them. If I don't like you, why am I sitting down with you? To prove what point you know, people.

A (66:33)

Think you actually pay me. They think you pay me to talk good about you.

B (66:36)

No, I don't. I just really. And I. I really just be talking to Charlemagne. Not all the time. Like, sometimes you won't even be. You wouldn't even believe the things that we talk about. What we talk about the most? Politics.

A (66:48)

That's right. That's true.

B (66:49)

That's what really we be talking to most of the. Most of the time. That's what we really be me talking about. Like, even the other day, I was so busy, but I was gonna hit you up. Like, it's like, I would have some jokes for you. I would have some jokes for you not even to be messy, but like, to be messy. But it's like, I. I know. You could have came harder. Charlemagne, come on.

A (67:07)

Are you talking about he was being called a girl?

B (67:09)

Yeah. Like, it's like, well, I'm being called a girl. Like, it's like you telling me that I'm not securing my woman. My woman is financially secure, though.

A (67:19)

That's a fact.

B (67:19)

Ain't nothing wrong being financially daughter birthday. Like a bar mitzvah. Like, you can't talk to me. You asking NBA if you got a view. Have you seen that house?

A (67:36)

See his wife closet.

B (67:38)

I'll never leave.

A (67:40)

Thank you for coming to my daughter's sweet 16 though. That was amazing. Because that, that is like a black ball, Mitchell. Right. Like it's fly to see black, black and brown people doing like that.

B (67:47)

Yeah. And everybody, it just made me realize like, it's like, wow. So this how my daughter birthday gonna be 16. All white folks, huh?

A (67:55)

Oh, culture is baby. I don't know by 16. Yes. Especially, especially when you live. She gonna be been famous for a long time at that point. Pulling up to the fashion shows. Yeah, it's gonna be very upper brow, very white.

B (68:13)

No, it's not even. It's just that her cousin's gonna be there. You had to be at that party so you could see like, wow. You, you, you would just have like an understanding of like what the schools are like over there.

A (68:24)

Yes, exactly.

B (68:25)

So sometimes I'll be thinking like, it's like, damn, my kid don't got flavor like that. But that's why they don't have no flavor like that. But she got you.

A (68:32)

Yeah. We saw culture the other day coaching guys in the Wayne. Yeah, we talked about it earlier.

B (68:36)

But, but they, they so innocent. They so innocent over there. They, they, they, they innocent nature.

A (68:40)

Jersey. But that is interesting, right? Cuz you're raising your kids in, in a mansion, right? In Jersey, but you grew up in the Bronx. How do you make sure they don't grow up spoiled? Cuz that's what I be trying to focus on.

B (68:52)

They spoil, I ain't going.

A (68:54)

And it's not even that they spoil. They don't know nothing else.

B (68:56)

They don't know nothing else. But they, they do. As you know what I noticed, as long as they with their cousin, they don't care where they at. Cuz when they be in my grandma's house or like when they was in Dr. In the country country, they, they. I kept calling like, are you guys okay? They've. They was. As long as they were their cousin, kids are okay. They just gotta be with their cousins. That's the trick. They gotta be with their cousins. They're gonna have a good time anywhere as long as their cousins is around, their friends around.

A (69:26)

So why did you ask. This is my last question. Why did you ask yourself, am I the drama? I like that you're holding yourself accountable, you know, from what you might be on. But why did you ask yourself that question?

B (69:36)

Because I just always feel like people that just don't like me or they will like pick on me or something.

A (69:43)

Because you on top.

B (69:45)

But it always been like that. Even when I was like in high school.

A (69:50)

Because you've always been on top, regardless of the money. Your personality, the fact that people naturally gravitate towards you. The fact that people naturally like you. You know, some hate you just, Just because of how everybody else love you.

B (70:00)

Yes. And that's why it's like, damn, am I the drama? Am I the one and is it me, Jesus? Like, it's like, yes. Why, oh why? I'm always like. It's like, it's like things could go a certain type of way for me, but it's just not going to go. It's like I don't know if I chase the bad things. I don't know if the bad things is me. I don't. But I'm also very blessed too. Like, it's like, maybe I'll be thinking it's because my. It is my personality. It is because like, like my voice just stand out and it always been like that. Which is a. It's. It's a.

A (70:33)

It's God.

B (70:34)

It's God. It's a blessing. It's a curse. Sometimes it occurs, but it's really like a blessing because sometimes I feel like I get it harder than, than, than most. And I don't care if people say that. They don't see it. They know it. They know it. I really get it hard. Harder than most. But then I. Then again, I am very blessed. And some people might think that it's like, well, she don't get that much because she's still here and she stays in certain things. And it's like, maybe I am blessed or maybe I just. I don't know.

A (71:04)

Well, don't spend all day looking at the comments.

B (71:06)

No, no, no.

A (71:07)

Let the album come out.

B (71:08)

Yeah.

A (71:08)

Let people have their opinion and you keep it moving. Okay.

B (71:11)

Yeah. I'm telling you today, today it really feels like I don't. I. I don't know if it's my birthday. I don't know if it's like it really feels like.

A (71:23)

I don't know, like I'm just enjoy the moment. I'm.

B (71:26)

I'm enjoying it. Well, I can't really enjoy because I'm tired as hell and I got a lot of work to do. Damn, I gotta go to all these, all these meet and greets and stuff. That's what I'm like, oh, God, am I gonna be able to do all that? But I'm gonna do it. But I woke up this morning, I wanted, like, to cry. And I'm like, what I want to cry for? It's a lot.

A (71:46)

Tear the joy, boy.

B (71:47)

Yeah.

A (71:47)

Absolutely. It's Cardi B. It's the Breakfast Club. Today to now, donkey of the day goes to a Florida man named Christopher Newton. Now, what does your Uncle Charlotte always say about the great state of Florida? The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida and today is no exception. Now, I have a theory that people don't know right from wrong anymore because of social media. Let me explain. You can go on social media and literally witness any criminal activity you want, and we end up seeing these. We end up seeing these activities so much that some people probably don't even know what they are witnessing. Is criminal. Okay? It's criminal when you watch people get punched in the face on social media. All right? It's criminal when you see folks flashing illegal guns on social media. It's criminal when you see people showing off drugs they are using and selling. Okay? Street racing, reckless driving, drifting, animal abuse. It's so many crimes we witness on social media. But because we don't see the consequences of them displaying this criminal behavior as often as we should, a lot of people think this stuff is normal. Well, in the words of the honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan, just because something has become the norm doesn't mean it's normal. And committing crime is never going to be normal. And just because you commit crimes and act like it's everyday, you know, regular smeggler activity does not make what you doing not a crime. Okay? Christopher Newton didn't get that memo though, because he's out here moving like the crimes he's committing are normal. According to Fox 13 Tampa Bay, Christopher Newsom, or Christopher Newton has been arrested on drug charges after deputies say he left a baggie of cocaine in a house he was being trespassed from. Now, I have never heard the phrase he was being trespassed from. I've heard the phrase he was trespassing, but I'm also not the highest grade of weed in the dispensary. So maybe that's the proper way to reference that. I don't know. But this is the Florida education system we are talking about. But according to Fox 13 Tampa Bay, okay, a Florida man was arrested on drug charges after deputies say he left a baggie of cocaine in a home he was trespassed from. Now, what had happened was Christopher Newsom text the homeowner who just asked him to leave about a bag of cocaine left on the nightstand. Okay? And he sent that text while deputies were at the house. Sidebar. The sooner you realize people be on cocaine, the less you Take things personally. Back to the story. Now, according to the Holmes county sheriff's office deputies, they responded to a call on Friday about having Christopher Newton removed from a home he was trespassing in. And while on the scene, Christopher texted the homeowner saying he left a baggie of booger sugar on the nightstand. Deputies got consent to search the room where Christopher had been staying and found a plastic bag of that happy dinner. Dust that nostril, dandruff. So Christopher was arrested and charged with possession of cocaine. Now, listen to me. It's unclear how long Christopher stayed in this house before he was asked to be removed for trespassing, but clearly he was either comfortable, high, or dumb enough to think he shared some type of relationship with this person to say, hey, I left my Bolivian marching powder on the nightstand. Now, I have another hypothetical. Whoever called the police on Christopher was either sniffing with him or fed up that he kept sniffing, sniffing and wouldn't stop. When they got this text from Christopher, they got paranoid because they thought the cops would find the cocaine and they would go to jail for it. So they showed the police Christopher's text to save their own ass. The moral of the story is this. A crime is a crime because we condemn it. And there are not a lot of crimes being condemned enough in our society so folks don't even know they are crimes. Possession of cocaine is indeed a crime. And to text somebody like, you left your wallet when it's a bag of cocaine lets me know that there are people walking amongst us who don't know that sniffing cocaine is actually a crime. Envy, I'm sure you left your laptop or something at somebody's house before, right? Laptop, yeah. What, you thought I said he was gonna say he left his cocaine? Yeah, I was like this. I said, stop. I heard you. Stop. Okay, Lauren, I'm sure you've left a wig or something on somebody's nightstand, but a bag of cocaine, you wouldn't just text, I left my cocaine on the nightstand. You can say, yo, I left my laptop over there. You could text that. You could text, I left my wig over there. But to say, I, I, you know, you left your cocaine. That's not something you just say, hey, I left that. I'm coming back to get it. Okay, but if I had left cocaine at somebody's house, I wouldn't text somebody and say, hey, I left cocaine at your house. I would just say, y' all just left something. I'm coming back to get it. That's how we talk because we were raised in an era where we knew we were committing crimes. We knew right from wrong, but we were trying to not get caught. Either this generation don't know don't show, or don't give a damn about being arrested for the blatant crimes they are committing. Please give Christopher Newton the biggest he haw. Make sure this man last night. Ed is new, all right. I kept saying Newton newsome all types of stuff. For the record, I think it's a worse crime to leave your wig somewhere than your cocaine. How many times have you done it? Never. I'm not. You never left your wig in somebody else? No. Why would I just leave my wig? Like, I'm just leaving with the braids, like, post it up. Yes. I can see you doing that. I'll be back. I can see you being so confident, thinking you can just walk out the house without a wig on. I mean, I am beautiful.

B (77:14)

Thank you.

A (77:15)

But no, I would never leave my wig. They just randomly. First of all, they cost a lot of money. Like, these are not cheap, your wigs.

B (77:21)

Yes.

A (77:22)

Oh, why are you saying like that? You gotta pay to get them made. Okay, stop playing with me. I meant to ask, like, now that Trump is putting the tariffs on, like, China and stuff like that, how does that affect the way we. We gonna build them up? We gonna build up the closet. All the girls are gonna have, you know, I mean, fair has been sitting in weight. And Mahogany is here now. This is mahogany brown. So we're gonna build up a few more girlies so that way I can rotate, and I'll be good. Okay, well, congratulations to me or the guy who got his cocaine back. No, congratulations. Congratulations to you. Okay. All right. Well, thank you for that donkey today. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got some special guests in the building. The legendary Eclipse. What's up, fellas? What's up? Is it the clips or is it Clips? Clips. Okay. Cause I say the clips, too. Nah, it's just clips. Oh, you call that shot? I don't want to ask y'. All. So it's just clips. What's the origins of the name for people who don't know? So that came from Full Eclipse. I came up with it, and at the time, Fat Joe had the Full Eclipse crew, so we just shortened it to clips. Okay. Now I want to go back, right? Because you guys have been a long time. What got you into rapping? And to form the group Clips for people that don't know. Always, always been a fan of hip Hop like anybody else. You know, my older brother was into the whole cardboard box breakdancing, boombox rapping, when you had to push play and record and rap directly into the box. Absolutely. And yeah, man, just. Just coming up under that. And we went to Chad's house one time, and Pusha, he wrote his first rap, and Pharrell was like, y' all should, you know, be a group. His first rap was incredible. But before that, it was just me rapping over there. Now, when y' all first met Chad and Pharrell, Right? Yep. Y' all are totally opposite. So how did y' all even meet and even learn each other? Because growing up in. In Norfolk in Virginia, like, it's totally two different sides. So what made y' all even say, you know what? Let's connect with these guys who were wearing tight shirts at the time and tight pants that look like skateboarders that look nothing like y'. All. They might have been serving them. No, they were serving them. So what made y' all say, you know what? Let's link with them and. And start this whole rapper, you know, actually, so I was a dj, DJ Alex in Virginia beach, lived down the street from me. And we went out and we rented a drum machine, and we got the drum machine, but we couldn't work it. And, you know, we had to turn it back in soon. We had paid for it, but, you know, we was going to have to turn it back in before we even had shipping to use it. And he was like, you know, let's take it to my homie's house. And we went over there, and it happened to be Chad, and he knew how to work it. And, you know, that's just stuff that we was doing before. Clip. That's where it started. Yeah. So when did y' all take it serious? When did you say, you know what? This rap thing is something I'm gonna take serious. I'm gonna get off the street to say this is what it is. I'd have to say that was in meeting Pharrell. It was the Teddy Riley coming to Virginia. You know, we began to see that it was a real thing. That music was actually attainable in arm's reach. I mean, we seeing the cars, we seeing the Ferraris, we seeing Michael Jackson in Virginia Beach. You know, we're seeing MC's HOV. Everybody was coming, was coming down. And then at the same time, we had, you know, Timbaland and Missy. They was doing they thing. They were. You know, they had left home and went to Jersey and was Working with Jodeci. But these are all our childhood, you know, high school, school friends. So we got to see it from a lot of different angles that, you know, music was possible. Why Virginia don't get the. Like, the credit for being a hip hop hotbed or just a black music hotbed? Well, I think a lot of people have. Everybody who's made it in Virginia actually had to leave Virginia to. To make it. I don't think any one particular artist of any of us. None of us broke in Virginia. So we always broke, like clips broke in Philly, you know? You know, everybody. Everybody broke somewhere else. And cliffs broke in Philly. I never heard that, man. Oh, no. Yeah. Cliffs broke in Philly, man. Really? Yeah. Shout out. Cosmic Cav. Yeah. Yeah. Clips broke in Philly. I don't know what record was it the funeral or Grinding? Grinding. Okay. Yeah. Grinding, Broken Philly. Got you. Now, do you remember the. When Pharrell gave you that beat for grinding? I remember the first time I heard it. It was confusing. Yeah, it was confused. I was confused. So when he first gave it, how did you know that was the record? You probably got the CD that I was handing out. Yes, I did. Yeah, I believe you did. It was. It kind of took us back. Because you got to think, at that time, Pharrell was singing on every hook. It was whether it was mystical and whoever, right? So, you know, this is our first joint. And he like, yo, this the one. And we, like. We want you singing, like, sing. You better tap or do something. And, you know, he was like, nah, I'm telling you, this is. This the future. This is what it is. And he was right. And it was confusing. Cause we actually wrote to it twice. Three times, I think I got three joints on that joint. I still can't blend it to this day. Cause I don't know where the beat and the snare go at the same time. To actually blend on it.

B (82:40)

It.

A (82:41)

You just gotta go. That's crazy. Yeah. That's crazy for you to say that. Yeah. To this day, I mean, he's not the greatest dj. Y' all know that. Envy up there. I just left Vegas with Envy rocking that joint. He was smoking that. Thanks, thanks. You know on the album, Alice, you said you've been both Mason Bethes. Yeah, man. For people who don't know what that line means, it's found. Yeah. I just feel like I. I understood and walked a similar path. Like Mace, you know, to. To be in this industry and then to have a real live revelation of God and who he is, you know, and then have to navigate your way. As far as navigating, not so much. Because I knew that I had to chill, take a step back. And I also want to give you y' all flowers too, because y' all were still messing with me during that time. You let me come in here and, you know, promote the documentary and, you know, my solo projects and everything, so. Yeah, I appreciate that. But, yeah, I feel like I understand. Seen a lot of the same things that. That Mace seen. I brought that up. Cause, you know, that's. They actually called me Mace in the club. We was in a club in D.C. and they was like, we got Pusha T and Mace. Sit here. Damn. But you ain't been around for a while, though. No, I'm cool with it all. Yeah, I'm cool with it all. I mean, that's why I brought it up. Cause that's what ultimately caused the clips to, you know, end for that. That fifth last period of time. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. So what got y' all back? What was the call that said, I want to do this again? There were a few baby steps. Going out to Wyoming and, you know, working on Use this Gospel with ye. With my brother. I always knew that we could do it, but I just knew I needed a sit down period, you know what I'm saying? What else did we do? We did push his album. I pray for you. We did a Nego album. The Nego album. Punch Bowl. Yeah. So those were things I could ask for that I knew weren't, you know, just solid no's, man. From there, it was just like, what we gonna do? But what was the exact moment, though? Because y' all were on two completely different. Like, so what was the exact moment that said, okay, it's time to do another album? You know, when. When we were doing the Use this gospel and Punch bowl and push his album or whatever, I had asked my dad, I was like, you know, what do you think about me rapping again? And he said. He said, son, I think you've been too hard on yourself. And my dad's a deacon, you know, like, he was a deacon. So to hear him say that I am like, word. That's how you feel like, you know, answer one of my questions. I was gonna ask you about that because you talk about that on Birds Don't Sing, right? And I just thought that was such a powerful thing. Just. Just to explain. Like, yo, he was going through his, you know, dresser drawer, seeing his notes, but then he. Y' all had conversations about you rapping again. I was gonna ask you what were those conversations? 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I knew y' all was coming up for an interview and trying to get yeah, of course. And one of them was like now we were talking about the album. This is before I heard the Album. And he was like. He was like, yo, the best thing about it, he was like, I had their mom in the car. And he was like, the greatest thing that ever happened is the two boys are back together rapping. So. So how was that feeling of knowing that mom was just super duper happy that her two sons were back rapping? Man, you know, she. That was always a big thing, you know, for me as a soloist. She would always be like, I want you with him. Yeah, I want your brother with you. I want him back out there with you. Probably just to, you know, look over me, watch over me. But that was always her thing. She was huge on, like, us just being together. How did y' all know y' all had to start the album with a dedication to your parents? Cause it was the hardest record to make. Like, it was the hardest record to make, so. Felt that one the most on the album. Yeah. So finally, like, when we cracked that code, you know, we were. You know, we put in the order, and we was like, man, nah, this. This. This has to start. Like, this has to start the album. It was. It was polarizing. The. The response, you know, just in the creation of it, man. Everybody who heard it, there were people in there, like, you know, we. We recorded it in. In the LV headquarters. So it's a room, and it's, you know, it's open. The mics are like, this ain't no booth. You record like this. You look outside, you look through that window right there. And it's not a window. It's just a open space. Somebody with a sewing machine, somebody with, you know, bags, shoes, whatever. And while we're doing this in real time, everybody's in tears. Like, everybody just, you know, they're watching it. By the time we finish it, it's like, you know, just like any other record. It's like, man, you know, we. We cracked the code on it. Like, we're satisfied, but it was just so hard to do. And everybody's always like, you know, everybody want to put their hardest record first. And I'm like, nah, man, this is the hardest record. And I want to see how it really touches people, you know, from the jump and then get into everything else. Will we get a visual for this video? I mean, it's already shot. It's already shot. Look at you. You smiling like you already knew you talked to the fans. But I did I pull everybody to the side? Definitely ask. The other day, they said I was glazing the clips, right?

B (92:51)

Why.

A (92:56)

I said was. I said. I said, Something to this fact. I said, push has. If he hears anybody go at him, he has five records on the side or five verses, just in case. I said, I just know because I know who he is and what he is. Is that true? No, man, that's not what he. I'm not. I'm not. Listen. I'm not. Listen, man. You know, he said, no, he said, now he looks good. Like the skin always fresh. I like skin compliments. I do like skin compliments, I'mma tell you. But when it comes to rappers and sometimes they throw stones at you, do you have something in the stash for each and every one of them, man? I mean, I think, you know, just me being a rap artist and me being an emcee, that's just second nature. And usually most people who throw stones, man, I mean, nobody's perfect. So, I mean, I can dissect anybody just like they could dissect me. But I try not to engage too much. Like, I've done that. Like, I've done a lot of it. You know what I'm saying? I've done it with the best in the biggest. Like, I've done it. So it's like you. You can't just entertain everything because everybody and everybody's not good. This is a new day and a new era where like, you know, just clicks and clickbait and people just say things for attention. And it's like you just can't entertain everything, man. You just can't. I feel like you've been trying to catch a body since the story added. I really. I've been trying to catch a body. Well, you caught one, I'm thinking. I think those would shots directly at you. But you. You were surgical with you said at the end, I'm peel back the layers real slow. So I feel like you really wanted to go there with somebody for the long. Nah, man, nah, nah. I mean, you know, it's. It's never a man. I got. I got for real. I have a lot to rap about. I got a lot to rap about. I got a lot. A lot of content. The creativity is. Is ever flowing, and it don't ever have to be about an individual. It don't have to be like, not for me. Like, I mean, like, I feel like this album is incredible and I don't think it's really dialed anywhere. You could get an accessory to murder charge, though, because when you listen to Euphoria, There's a lot of things that you laid. You know, you laid down that Kendrick used for euphoria. And I think just used in the battle period, man. You know, I. I think. I think, you know, great, great lyricists just, you know, tune into the obvious. The Jet Lovers during that battle. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I did speak during the battle. That's my guy. Accessory. Accessory. Accessory. I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. When do you pick and choose when.

B (95:56)

To say something about something, though?

A (95:57)

Cause you sit on a lot of stuff for a long time. Yeah, I mean, I'm always like that. That just comes with my position in the game and, like, just where I am as an artist. Like, man, I don't. You know, it's not always a radio record that I have. It's not always, you know. You know, I'm not putting out music constantly. You know what I'm saying? Every five minutes, a new record. I feel like, you know, things happen. You gotta store it. You gotta store it. You gotta craft it. You gotta make it right. You gotta set the platform, set the stage. Now break down the what to hit. The situation with Def Jam. You guys were on Def Jam. Yes. Decided to leave. Yeah, you crazy, too, man. You can sit up here and tell some Def Jam. You was like, yo, Def Jam. Def Jam don't care about your project. You crazy. Crazy. So what happened? Honest, man, man, he started the interview that way. I was like, I'm not gonna do that to her. Like, what is you. If you're not up here to talk about your music, what are we gonna be talking about? Right? And I actually left that day because we didn't send the album. He still wanted to do it, but I was pushing for her because I love Coco. Yeah, yeah, she dope. If we being honest, though. Cause listening to the project now and.

B (97:06)

Knowing the background with y' all in Def Jam, you. I don't understand why they would let a project like this go.

A (97:11)

Well, listen, so what was the call when. When you handed in the album and they called and said, we. We can't put this out. We can't clear this record. What was that call like? I mean, it was. You know what it was. It was something that I wasn't really dealing with firsthand. They were, like, speaking to my management, you know, Then it got. It got a little dicey. To where? To the point they weren't. They wouldn't text or email, send these things and emails. They would, like, only talk on the phone. And, you know, they would instruct not to email us back and forth these. You know, that type of correspondence. I can only assume that it was just the optics with everything they got going on with litigation, lawsuits, and all of that. The optics of clips Kendrick together. Because that's when it all happened. We don't really deal with the label that much anyway, outside of nothing. Actually, yeah, we don't deal with the label. Like, we. We go make our album, and then we come and bring the album back. But y'. All. You and Kendrick have worked together before. Y' all got a classic together, if you ask me. No, so it was like, what's the difference? Oh, it's a different day. It wasn't. That was back then. But y' all wasn't even shooting that. Dude. It doesn't matter. That's crazy. When you wanted to leave, you call HOV, and then the first rumor was they just let you go for free. And we was like, that can't be true. No, no, no, no, no, no. He had to pay. He had to pay. So you reached out to Hov and Hove said absolutely positive. Well, my man Steven did shout out to Steven. Yeah, Steven. Steven reached out to him. There were other labels in the bidding, and he just called HOV like, yo, I think there was a. There was a. There was a. An approval process between one of the labels or something. Took a little long. And he went and asked Hov, and Hov was like, look, yeah, let's do this now. Like, 24 hours, maybe. Maybe 48 hours. I never seen lawyer work like this that fast. Yeah, I didn't know it even happened like that. And what record was Hov supposed to be on on this project? He was sent chains and whips. It was Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson. Blow to the face. You know, HOV had the album, so, you know, so be it. Yeah, it was. It was all for him to. Whatever he wanted to do. Oh, he's supposed to be on. So be it. Yeah, that was one of the options. Yeah. Yeah. And nothing moved his spirit. Hey, man, I don't know, man. I don't know, man. You know? All right, we got more with the Clips when we come back.

B (99:25)

Don't move.

A (99:26)

It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning. The Breakfast Club. Peace of the planet. Charlemagne Tha God here. And every year, we always talk about new year, new goals, new me. Let this be the year we take our health seriously. Your stress, your diet, and your everyday habits hit your heart harder than you think. Power 1051, you're checking out the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. Is DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lon Larose is here as well. We're still kicking it with the clips. Jess, how do you feel when people leak music? Like, when people release your music prematurely? Yo, you know, the game goes how it goes, and that's how we maneuver. We navigate everything. I'm not going to sit up and be upset about anything, you know, that happens when we get in there and we create and we make our music and we do what we do. What else you going to do? What else can you do other than that. That. You know what I'm saying? And. And I stand on our product, and I love it. And it's good for fans to get things sometimes. So it's cool. Like, as long as they enjoy it, it's good. Yeah.

B (100:30)

Did y' all ever think about trying.

A (100:31)

To get another Kendrick first once that.

B (100:33)

Leaked before the album actually, like, dropped?

A (100:35)

Yeah, man, we. We try to get all Kendrick verses. Why not? Well, y' all kind of leaked. Y' all knew playing that song in Paris, everybody's phone out, it was going. Y' all had to know that. Yeah, you know, it's part of it. Going back to what you said about when you went to Wyoming to do use this gospel, by the way, the hardest song on. On that album. How do y' all feel about Kanye now? Do y' all feel sadness or sympathy for him? We all see him now. No, no. Talk to your brother. No, no, no, no, no, no. All I'm gonna say, and I'm going to say that I think this goes for. For anybody. It's crazy. When you have a true revelation of God, it is radical, because when the scales fall off your eyes, you. Do you want to run and tell everybody what you. What you witness, or, yo, we've been missing it this whole time. You know, it's how. It's how I felt. But once you get that, you got to sit down for a minute. It. You can't get the revelation and then try to keep going. In this world, the epitome of the gospel is denying yourself. That's why Christ got on the cross and gave up his flesh. So you have to be willing to give it up so you can learn and then let God restore you and rebuild you. You know, correctly. Doesn't mean anybody is a perfect person. Or. Or you can't even try to have the facade of, okay, I'm saved now. Now I'm perfect. Nah, it just. It just doesn't work like that. So how did you deal with it? Push, because. Deal with Kanye because, you know, you're not a type of person to hold your tongue. You know, you don't hold your word. So when some of the stuff that he did that might not have aligned what you, you thought. Did y' all have those conversations? Well, I mean, you know, I spoke on it. I feel like that's. That was the beginning of our fallout. He sits on a lot of miscarriages of justice. I've seen it. You know what I'm saying? I, I hear things and things being said and I see, you know, his reserve. You know, I, I admire his restraint. People, by the time he jumps out the window, you think he's going overboard. But I, I'm telling you as knowing my brother, he sits on a lot.

B (102:52)

I saw you say you hate Kanye's leadership and, and you got away from that because.

A (102:56)

Got away from that community that he.

B (102:57)

Built because of the feeling over there, right?

A (102:59)

What was that like, like last straw of like, nah, I can't no more. I think for me it was somewhere around the Atlanta, the, The dome, the. Locked in. When everybody was locked in the dome and we squad and we, we working and we doing what we doing. It's just all about the squad. And I, I kind of just felt like, you know, I would, you know, I would have to leave and go do things, shows, whatever the case may be. I would come back and the energy would just be different. Different. You know, there were conversations being had. You know, this is, this is after Adidon and everything else. And you know, it was like, man, I was doing self serving things and it was just crazy. It was just a lot of like, you know, back biting and things like that. And I'm like, damn, this is, this is for the squad, I thought. But, you know, it ended up not being. Talk publicly negative about you. We heard him say about Sean, we heard him say John Legend. Yay. Oh, no, for sure. He had. For sure. He has. He put on, remember he put on a little mask. He was like screaming in him. Define what is culturally inappropriate. Oh, man. Yeah. No, listen, man. Okay, so during, during just the sessions, whether it was a beat, whether it was, you know, just the freestyles before and making the songs, whatever the case may be, you know, we would get hype about just like, man, hard or whatever, whatever it was at the time. And I forgot who said it, but was Mike. Mike. Mike was like, man, this is culturally inappropriate. And Mike also worked on it's almost Dry. So you know how that had a common thread of like the Joker laugh through the whole album. He was like, yo, say that on the mic and let me run that through a filter because you know, we just felt like we just kept running that back. It's culturally inappropriate. It. He was like, say it through a filter. Let's find a voice, and let's just see how it sounds on records. And it actually just worked just to have that, you know, just another thread to keep it, you know, cohesive, keep the album cohesive. I mean, I. I like it just because it's something that I feel like we should say something is culturally inappropriate. Yeah. It could have been a line. What I'm saying is it could have been a line. It could have been a song. It could have been a. A hook idea at the time. I just, you know, I just can't remember what it was. But that's. That's where that. That term came from. Something that was just said ignorantly. And what pissed you off about Travis Scott so much that you had to mention him on the record? Like, what made you say this? Isn't this going too far? Ah, man, it was just, you know, it was just that. That whole coming to. Coming to Paris, you know, he came to Paris during one of our sessions, you know, played his album, and then he, you know, when. When he left the album comes out, and, you know, the record that he played, you know, had a verse up there that was, you know, going at P, whatever the case may be. And I'm like, damn, you just left. Like, how you. How you leave here, you know, let. He was on your album, and then you're letting them, you know, play your album form. You're filming it, and then you come back when the album drops, you got a verse, you know, going at him. So I just thought that was corny. And again, like, you know, that's part of the. Trying to leave all of that behind. And it's like, man, it. Like, that's the type of thing that happens over in that yay world. And it's okay. And they, you know, it's all right. They just brush it off and they be friends and they go hang out together and then, you know, do whatever they do. Like, that doesn't. I didn't. I didn't like that that was brought into this fold. Yeah, one time they said the verse, the Drake verse wasn't done as of yet. Doesn't matter when it was done. I don't care when it was done. You. You. You added to it. You actually. He actually had a verse after that verse, so you. You even added to the verse, like, so what's proper etiquette for a situation like that? Just stay the hell Away from me. Like, I'm not. I'm not into you anyway. Like, I'm not even into your swag or none of that. Like, it's not into none of it. So just stay away. Like, I only want to mess with the real. Like, I'm only dealing with the real. I'm only, you know, doing music with the real. We just. I just. Let's just. Let's just. This is like, just drawing a line in the sand for everybody. But are you responsible for what an artist does on your record? If you come and dance around in front of me and use footage and do all this and all that, I think you're responsible for anything that you do that you incorporate the people that, you know, that are being, you know, talked about. Of course. I can't believe you have to explain this. You know what happened. I know that's your brother, and I'm sure. No, and I'm not just taking sides or because my brother. I'm just saying, you know, like. But I'm talking about the artists who might approach you because of what Pusha says. I mean, listen, I ride with my brother. You know what I'm saying? And that's the. And that's the thing about this having purpose. I know what my purpose is. I'm making music with my brother, and I'm glorifying my God. That's what I'm doing. And when you're in your purpose, if anything fall on you, then it fall on you. At least you know, you were where you were supposed to be. Me. And that's where I'm at right now. So I'm cool with whatever. All right. So when people approach you for things, I say. All the time, but also be. You said you got a video of Travis crying. No. No, man. You cried in front of me. Yeah. Oh, no, no, that. That wasn't. That. That's not about crying. So what's on the video? Oh, man, you know. Yo, chill, Chill. Yeah, you know. God damn. Just in case you're, you know, you're looking for. I got you. Well, I appreciate you brothers for joining us, man. Thanks for having us.

B (108:42)

Thank you.

A (108:43)

Thank you very much. Appreciate. Pressure on y', all, but are we gonna have to wait another 15 years or is, you know. Nah, nah, nah. I don't think so. Okay. Alice didn't say it. I don't know. You all are just so happy.

B (108:55)

I love seeing you all together.

A (108:58)

That's why when I said the safe space thing, like, I can really see that. I can see how this is like a divine protection. Y' all together, having an individual. But when y' all together, you can really, really. I'm with that. I'm with that. I feel that. I see that. Yeah. One last thing. Is there ever a, a problem you say, like, I'm not going there with Pusha. Like, if Push is going to a, a, a spot, a strip club to host or he's going to strip club, like, that's. I'm not doing that. Yo, everybody keeps putting you in a strip club. For some reason, every interview they're putting him in. I usually don't. I mean, my book. But yeah, man, work is work. Work is work. It's clips. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning now, Charlamagne, man, you got a positive note. Yes. The positive note is simply this. And it comes from the banks and thugs conversation because I keep telling y', all, man, the hardest thing for men to do is just express that somebody hurt your feelings. I just feel like that comes from trauma. And I want y' all to know that trauma is a fact of life. Life. But it does not, however, have to be a life sentence. And I also want y' all to know, for everybody getting on their healing journey, healing journey, Recovery. Recovery is a process, okay? It takes time, it takes patience, and it's going to take everything you've got. So I wish you all well on your healing journeys. Have a great day. Breakfast Club Wake you up. Wake that ass up. Program you the Alarm to Power 105.1 on iHeartRadio if a Lenovo gaming computer is on your holiday list, don't shop around. Just go directly to the source Lenovo.com it's your last chance to score exclusive deals on the gaming PCs you want, like the Lenovo Legion Tower 5 Gen 10 gaming desktop and Lenovo Lock Gaming Laptop. So avoid all that shopping chaos and price comparing and just go directly to the source lenovo.com where PCs are up to 35% off. That's lenovo.com. Did you know Microsoft has officially ended support for Windows 10? Upgrade to Windows 11 with an LG Gram laptop. Voted PCMag's reader's choice top laptop brand for 2025. Thin and ultra lightweight. The LG Gram keeps you productive anywhere. And Windows 11 gives you access to to free security updates and ongoing feature upgrades. Visit lgusa.com iheart for great seasonal savings on LG Gram laptops with Windows 11. PCMag reader's choice used with permission. All rights reserved. Support for the show comes from public the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index with AI. It all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year, you can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like EFTs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus with when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member F I N R A S I P C Advisory Services by Public Advisors, llc. SEC Registered Advisor Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not investment recommendation or advice. Complete disclosures available at public.com disclosures hey audiobook lovers. I'm Cal Penn. I'm Ed Helms. Ed and I are inviting you to join the best sounding book club you've ever heard with our new podcast, Earsay, the Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club. Each week we sit down with your favorite iHeart podcast hosts and some very special guests to discuss the latest and greatest audiobooks from audible. Listen to Earsay on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Follow Earsay and start listening on the free iHeartradio app today. This is Sophie Cunningham from Show Me Something. Do you know the symptoms of moderate to severe obstructive sleep apnea, or osa, in adults with obesity? They may be happening to you without you knowing. If anyone has ever said you snored loudly, or if you spend your days fighting off excessive tiredness, irritability and concentration issues, it may be due to osa. OSA is a serious condition where your airway partially or completely collapses during sleep, which may cause breathing interruptions and oxygen deprivation. Learn more at don'tsleep on OSA.com this information is provided by Lilly, a medicine company at cvs. It matters that we're not just in your community, but that we're part of it. It matters that we're here for you when you need us, day or night, and we want everyone to feel welcomed and rewarded.

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