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well, ladies and gentlemen, in the Stan corner of the Internet, there is drama and we need to talk about it. So thanks to a potentially regretful outfit choice and the woke police that is monitoring everything, singer Olivia Rudd, who you guys probably know from her song Driver's License, maybe her feud with Sabrina Carpenter over a boy, she has been thrust into a conversation about pedophilia. This is like not a light hearted thing. Pedophilia and sexualizing children. And now Taylor Swift has even been brought into it, which, like, for context, she and Olivia sort of had like a feud. The Swifties are activated. Olivia is now responding, blaming other people, and it is just a huge mess. But in my opinion, the real story here is that Olivia and her team probably saw an aesthetic. They liked, a certain aesthetic, but they are way too out of their depth to, to understand it or defend it when people online start hitting them with really serious critiques and accusations. Plus, as an add on what we're gonna talk about, nothing is original or new anymore. We are just repeating things from decades past, including this exact same controversy. All right, so you see, what had happened was, what had happened was that Olivia Rodrigo did a performance last month. She's launching a new album. So she's out doing press and performing little snippets of the album. But she did a performance last month wearing what we call a baby doll dress. And this has now spiraled into a whole controversy about who is sexualizing who. If this is pedophilic, if it's problematic, all of the things. Now, for context, this was the dress in question. And it is also important to note that under that cute little dress, the little baby doll, she was wearing roughly bloomers, like roughly little mini, short bloomer things that people were likening to baby diapers. So baby doll dress, baby doll, baby diapers. But what really set people off is this moment in that specific performance where people said that she was being sexual when while wearing that outfit. Just watch. So as you can see, she's like scream talk, singing this punk song, talking about exploitation. She's tired of hearing about the news when people are talking about her online. She's crawling around, raging, doing her whole punk thing that she's really embodied right now. And full disclosure, you know, this all started like two weeks ago. And so I saw this clip, actually a bunch of people DMed it to me. They were like, hey, are you gonna talk about it? I think this is really interesting. But I saw this clip and I personally, you guys might have a different take, but I personally like did not clutch my pearls. I thought it was a bit odd. But I'm not really a huge Olivia Rodrigo fan. I personally think that she's like a little bit overrated. I loved her first album, but her recent stuff, I'm just like, I don't know, I really don't care. I do think I brought up this clip and a little bit of the controversy when I was talking about Sydney Sweeney and Euphoria a couple of videos ago. But like I didn't see this and go, oh my gosh, this is insane. It's so gross. I have to do a video about this like right now because it is so crazy. As I started seeing the video more and more and reading the comments and realizing that this was kind of turning into a whole controversy, I don't know, I guess I just wasn't flabbergasted or shocked by any of it. Because basically every single popular female artist right now, except my queen Olivia Deen, who is so classy and beautiful. Like every single one of them prances around the stage talking about sex, singing sex, showing off sex positions, grinding on chairs, on microphone stands, being half naked, having their boobies out. Like, I'm just a bit numb. I'm like, okay, she's crawling around, she's yelling at things, she's wearing a dress with poofy sleeves. Like, who isn't doing that in 2026? But as I have now realized two weeks later, because people are still talking about this, I guess the Internet was not as numb as I was and so they saw that and they unleash. For example, one person commented and said, you are normalizing pedophilia. That style of clothing is not intended for adult women. You are sexualizing children's wear. Same with those schoolgirl outfits. This is a known fetish. You can blame gross men all you want, but continuing to appeal to it is not going to make it stop. Another person said, maybe I am too woke, which I always do. Appreciate the self awareness. Another comment read, for real though, that baby doll shit on a grown woman is straight ick. Looks like she's cosplaying as a kid. It's weird af. Another person said, maybe I'm too woke too. Or maybe we're all just too sane to pretend that a 22 year old crawling toddlers Bloomers is art and not straight up unsettling. I think that that comment is probably more along the lines of where I land. I'm just like, okay, it's like, not really my speed. But again, the world is so weird that I think there are worse things now. From here, it all just took on a world of its own. Like, posts were getting tens of millions of impressions. Like dissecting the dress, dissecting what she was wearing, what she was contributing to, what she was sexualizing, ripping into her for all of it. Before we dive into more of my thoughts on this and what her team did that honestly just made the entire situation so much worse and made them look so dense. Important to be fair to Olivia here, because these baby doll dresses, the ruffly bloomer mini shorts, they might be weird to some, and I get that because it's kind of an odd trend, but they are a style right now. Like, they are literally everywhere. I wore a baby doll dress to my baby shower with shorts under it. It was very comfortable. It was in, like, the sweltering sun of August. It was like the best thing I could wear. But, like, it is a normal thing that young women are wearing. It is a style that Olivia has now adopted as she is promoting her new album, as you can see in the pictures here. So she is literally wearing a little girly baby doll dress with a big collar in the COVID for this new album and even in the music video for the album's lead single, which we will put up right here. She was dancing around Versailles in France in another little baby doll dress and you guessed it, bloomers. And yes, before you ask, guys, bloomers, they are a trend. They are sold everywhere. They are all over that women's clothing site, Revolve. They're all over my TikTok. Like, this is what women are wearing out. Complain all you want. I think it's very odd. You will not catch me dead in a literal pair of bloomers. But some women like it. So the point is, you can take issue with the style all you want, but it's nothing that Olivia has come up with on her own. It is a very popular trend that honestly kind of might be on the way out, and she has adopted it for this album. And it is also important to note that it has been a trend before. Like the baby doll dresses, the bloomer look, they were actually never about baby dolls or dresses. It was about rationing fabric in the 1940s, during World War II. It was started by a lingerie designer in the 40s you can see the original photos here. Women could not wear the long nightgowns anymore because there was no fabric. So they made it into a cute little like short and tops and situation. And then years later, just adding on to that, big fashion houses like Givenchy and Balenciaga, they used the style in couture garments which I put on screen right here. This was a style for women in and outside of the bedroom. Now, I do want to say that none of that looks as cozy as my Cozy Earth pajamas. All right? Now, funnily, literally last night Alex and I were talking about pajamas and he said, well, I know you love your little outfit. And I was like, my little outfit, like what? And then I realized he was talking about my Cozy Earth set of pajamas. That is what he meant. My little bamboo outfit that I wear every single night to bed because it is so comfortable. However, moving on from pajamas, Cozy Earth makes a strong case that what you wear out of bed matters just as much as what you wear to bed. Maybe even more. Now, the Cozy Earth outfit that I live in during the day is their ribbed T shirt. I've said it before, it is the best plain white T shirt ever. And I also live in their bamboo studio pants. It is all so comfortable, but it's tailored. It's nice enough so that I still feel put together when I'm working from home. 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Right now, back to the story and the history of these baby doll dresses. This is really where it gets interesting to me and where it got really relevant for Olivia, because these dresses, they actually go back way further than just being part of a, you know, secular fashion trend, because they're especially relevant in regards to punk singers. Like what Olivia is doing right now on stage with this album, blending this, like, cutesy, girly, almost childlike look with the angry grunge talk, singing in the big Doc Martens that she's stomping around on stage in, she is literally just copying singers like Courtney Love because, per usual, nobody is original. So the story with that is that back in the 1990s, babydoll dresses became this chosen uniform of a youth rebellion. It was like rebelling against the oppressive fashion, the patriarchy, like all the normal stuff that kids these days still are screaming about. But that's the history. One article from Harper's Bazaar says that the babydoll dress returned with a vengeance in the 1990s as female rockers paired vintage dresses from Goodwill with loads of red lipsticks, bleached blonde hair, torn stockings, plastic barrettes, and Mary Janes known as kinderwhore. Don't worry, don't freak out yet. We're gonna get into that. A term attributed to British music journalist Everett True, the look functioned as a subversive gesture. It sought to pervert and reclaim the fetishization of youth by the patriarchy by turning the archetype of the innocent and fragile young girl into a wicked and powerful creature who wields an electric guitar and screams. So the women and the young people who originated this whole style, this whole rebellion, they were not trying to sexualize children. They were trying to subvert the image of a docile, sweet girl, of a woman from the patriarchy into their screaming punk fantasy, which you can see in these images right here. Courtney Love is on the right. And Courtney once said that it was more about irony than anything else. She wanted to have this, like, caricature of a sweet, docile, good girl aesthetic and then, like, destroy it on stage. Now, obviously, people are hung up on the phrase kinderwhore. That is, like, objectively a very gross term. But that was a descriptor that was placed on women like Courtney Love by journalists and critics. Like, Courtney Love actually largely rejected the phrase. She did not like it. She spent years saying that's not what I was trying to do here. That was not the point. That was not the intention. Which now brings me back to Olivia Rodrigo, because the same thing is happening here 30 years later. A performer adopts a certain aesthetic, gets on stage, and then that aesthetic is critiqued and sexualized by viewers is distorted in the performer's mind. And so I think that there are two separate conversations here that interest me. Number one, yes, we all can debate on whether this is an appropriate thing for her or anybody to be wearing and if she is going to be wearing it, what she should and should not do on stage, if it is harmful. I personally, again, like, reiterating what I said earlier. I think that there are worse things. Again, it's not my favorite, but maybe I'm just numb to the horrors that persist on the Internet. Like, I don't know if this woke generation. All of the people that are policing Olivia Rodrigo, like, I don't know if they would have survived Miley Cyrus literally grinding on and sexualizing a baby bottle and like sort of twerking and sexualizing herself in a crib like she was actually sexualizing a baby. And then of course, there's Sabrina Carpenter, who is huge right now. Way more popular than Olivia Rodrigo. Honestly. She wore similar outfits. Literally. You can see her here. She is wearing a baby doll nightgown. She has little shorts under there, but she crawled around on the stage, sang about sex the entire time. Literally showed off a different sex position on stage every single night for each stop of her tour. Why are we more outraged about Olivia Rodrigo versus this? And by the way, Sabrina Carpenter has also adopted the nightgown and grunge look. You can see her here wearing the exact same outfit that Olivia was wearing on stage. Euphoria is showing onlyfans girls doing baby play fetish People are wanting sympathy for maps minor attracted people. Journalists are promoting sex robots to help these minor attracted people. Like, I'm sorry, but they're in my opinion, my personal opinion. I feel like there are worse things than a punk try hard performer that is jumping on a fashion trend years after everybody else has and 30 years after the mothers of punk did the exact same thing. However, what I do think is weird and a little unfortunate is that it seems like Olivia Rodrigo can't actually defend or explain her choice. And this goes back to nothing being intentional or original. So just take a look at how she responded to the controversy. This was in a New York Times interview podcast that they did. This is how she responded.
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babydoll dress that's been making me so upset. Not even for me. Like, I don't care. People could see it.
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What's really disturbing is I feel like I actually wear. I have worn outfits that are, like, maybe revealing on stage. Like, I've been on stage in, like, a sparkly bra and, like, little shorts and, like, which is my right. That's fun. I felt cool and comfortable in that, and, like, that wasn't inappropriate. But me, like, fully covered up in a dress that people deemed to be, like, childlike was inappropriate. And I just think just, like, shows how we just, like, really normalize pedophilia in. In our culture. And also, it just is this. This, like, rhetoric that we're fed as girls since we're so little, which is like, don't wear that, because then a man is gonna sexualize your body, and it's your fault. Like, it's so weird. And I didn't think that I looked sexy in that at all. I was like, this is so cool. I feel like I look like Kathleen, Hannah, or Courtney Love, all these people who are my heroes. And I felt cool and comfortable in it.
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So, yes, she did reference Courtney Love at the very end there, but she kind of broadly just threw it back on everybody else and said, this is because women are controlled, and we're told what to wear and what not to wear. She kind of threw out the blanket statement of pedophilia, and now people online are even angrier. Like, that did not help in the slightest. Somebody commented and said nobody was normalizing pedophilia. That misses the point entirely. The criticism was about mixing childlike aesthetics with adult performance imagery, not about blaming women for being sexualized. She is twisting the issue to fit her narrative. Another person said, girl, shut the F up. The reason why your fans didn't flip out on you wearing shorts or bras is because you at least dress like a grown adult. You can sexualize yourself all you want, but if you're gonna do that while being on stage in an effing toddler dress, crawling around, cosplaying as a child, and then touching yourself like that, then, yeah, people are gonna be weirded out by that. You cannot possibly be that dense. Now, in my opinion, on how this all came about, I am sure that, you know, Olivia is on TikTok. Like, I am seeing what everybody is wearing. I'm sure that she thought this was a cool aesthetic. It ties into the punk rockers that she is trying to emulate. She came up with a Pinterest board, she sent it to her stylist, and she is simply just trying to mirror it. Therefore, she can't really defend it. And instead of trying to defend it or educating people on what is actually, I think, a really interesting history of this style. A cool story. It seems like her team pushed for a PR blitz from Vogue to provide some legitimacy for the fashion choice, but they made the grave error of pulling Taylor Swift into the story, basically saying, look, look, Taylor Swift also wears these dresses, so it's totally fine. I mean, they literally made her the entire headline. It reads, with Taylor Swift's endorsement, we have officially entered peak baby doll season. And they used this specific paparazzi photo in this dress as proof. And the first line of the entire article reads, alert emoji. Breaking news for all of you Swifties. Taylor Swift is pro babydoll dress. So essentially saying, get on board. Support Olivia. And then from there, the entire article just becomes about Olivia and the controversy and choosing to defend her. And let's just say that the Swifties, they mobilized as they do, they were very unhappy, which, honestly, I get, because Taylor had nothing to do with any of this. And she was not even wearing a baby doll dress. What you see in that photo is not a baby doll dress. It is a mini dress. Somebody commented and said exactly that. It's a mini dress. And Taylor wears it in a classy way. She writes, not like Olivia, who was wearing a diaper and then lifting the dress up to show it. It is actually disgusting how much negative PR her team does against Taylor. Like, how threatened are you now? The online reaction to this very obviously placed PR article was so bad, the Swifties mobilized so quickly, the Vogue author literally privated her Instagram account. They were calling for her to be fired. Oh, we will never take you seriously ever again. This is bought and paid for. It was an entire thing. So another lesson here is don't test the Swifties. I learned that a long time ago. But just in case anybody has missed it, don't. Now, from my view, looking at the story, all of this feels like a very terrible combination of some bad PR and copying some potentially problematic aesthetics without actually being able to stand behind the very interesting and relevant history. Now, I also think that there is maybe some hypocritical woke outrage because, like, they're getting upset about a babydoll dress, and yet they are watching euphoria and have no problem with the weird fetish crap that they are pushing there. Like, again, we talked about that in the Sydney Sweeney episode, and it's like, let's just, like, be consistent. There are things that are so disgusting that cross so many lines that happen every single day. People just turn a blind eye to. I mean, talk about the crap that happens in schools on a daily basis. Young kids talking about sexuality and whether they want to change their gender. Talk about the dildos that are being shown in health classes. And the same community, I guarantee the same community that is yelling at Olivia Rodrigo is going, oh, no, that's really important. That's actually. That's health. That's progress. To show those children sexy books and dildos. It's like, oh, my God. There are more important things to consider. And so, in my opinion, Olivia crawling around on the floor while, like, talk, singing. Yes, it is a bit odd. It is not my cup of tea. But unfortunately, unfortunately for me and for you, I have seen far more perverse things online that are harmful for children. I see women wearing bloomers out every single day. I own a babydoll dress. So this personally is not something that is going to ruffle my feathers. I will not be joining in on the Olivia Rodrigo hate this time.
Host: Brett Cooper
Episode Date: June 6, 2026
Main Theme: Examining the cultural controversy over Olivia Rodrigo’s use of “babydoll dress” fashion, the history and meaning of the style, the outrage it sparked online, and what broader generational anxieties are revealed by the debate.
Brett Cooper delves into the viral backlash against singer Olivia Rodrigo’s recent stage outfit: a babydoll dress with ruffled bloomers. What began as online chatter spiraled into accusations of sexualizing childhood and even “normalizing pedophilia.” Brett examines the roots of this aesthetic, its cultural significance, the public's inconsistent standards, and how manufactured outrage and bad PR can spiral out of control—sometimes dragging unrelated stars (like Taylor Swift) into the fray.
Genesis of Drama: Olivia Rodrigo performed in a babydoll dress with ruffled bloomers, which some online voices claimed was inappropriate, likening it to sexualized children’s wear and labeling it “pedophilic.”
Viral Reaction: Online comments exploded, mixing accusations of normalizing childlike sexuality with more tempered takes just finding the look “odd” for an adult.
“You are normalizing pedophilia. That style of clothing is not intended for adult women. You are sexualizing children’s wear. ... This is a known fetish.”
— (Brett reading an online comment, [05:30])
Brett’s Reaction: She didn’t find the performance shocking but noted how quickly these issues ignite online:
“I personally, you guys might have a different take, but I personally did not clutch my pearls. … Every single one [female artist] prances around the stage talking about sex, singing sex, showing off sex positions, grinding on chairs, on microphone stands, being half naked…”
— Brett, [03:00]
Current Fashion: Babydoll dresses and bloomers are everywhere—Cooper points out their ubiquity on social media and mainstream fashion sites.
“You will not catch me dead in a literal pair of bloomers. But some women like it.”
— Brett, [07:30]
Historical Context: The style's origins are traced to 1940s fabric rationing, not childhood mimicry—then popularized in couture (Givenchy, Balenciaga).
Recurring Trend: It’s a cyclical fashion, not an invention of Rodrigo or her team.
Punk Connection: Olivia’s look is deliberately referencing 1990s punk icons (e.g., Courtney Love), who used the aesthetic to challenge patriarchal, “innocent” gender norms.
“The story with that is that back in the 1990s, babydoll dresses became this chosen uniform of a youth rebellion... rebelling against the oppressive fashion, the patriarchy, like all the normal stuff that kids these days still are screaming about.”
— Brett, [10:15]
Intentional Irony: The term "kinderwhore" (coined by critics, not musicians themselves) was meant to disturb, not sexualize.
“The look functioned as a subversive gesture. It sought to pervert and reclaim the fetishization of youth by the patriarchy...”
— Brett (quoting Harper’s Bazaar), [11:00]
Rodrigo’s Response: On a NYT podcast, Rodrigo frames the criticism as part of a culture that blames women for others’ sexualization and claims that “we just really normalize pedophilia."
“I have worn outfits that are maybe revealing on stage... But me, like, fully covered up in a dress that people deemed to be, like, childlike, was inappropriate. … I just think [it] shows how we normalize pedophilia in our culture.”
— Olivia Rodrigo, [14:16]
Critique of Response: Brett calls this a missed opportunity to educate. Rather than exploring the subversive punk history, Rodrigo “broadly just threw it back on everybody else and said, this is because women are controlled.”
“So another lesson here is don’t test the Swifties. ... Taylor had nothing to do with any of this.”
— Brett, [16:25]
“There are things that are so disgusting that cross so many lines that happen every single day. People just turn a blind eye to. ... So this personally is not something that is going to ruffle my feathers.”
— Brett, [18:20]
On cultural amnesia:
“Nothing is original or new anymore. We are just repeating things from decades past, including this exact same controversy.”
— Brett, [01:25]
On the futility of outrage:
“Why are we more outraged about Olivia Rodrigo versus this? … I feel like there are worse things than a punk try-hard performer that is jumping on a fashion trend years after everybody else has and 30 years after the mothers of punk did the exact same thing.”
— Brett, [13:00]
On Rodrigo’s lack of explanation:
“What I do think is weird and a little unfortunate is that it seems like Olivia Rodrigo can’t actually defend or explain her choice. ... She is simply just trying to mirror [punk idols’ style]. Therefore, she can’t really defend it.”
— Brett, [15:28]
Are babydoll dresses problematic? Brett Cooper’s verdict: the moral panic reveals more about our anxieties, generational divides, and inconsistent standards than the actual outfit does. While Rodrigo’s fashion is a recycled punk symbol rather than a unique provocation, her team’s flawed defense—and the tendency to weaponize outrage—mirror a culture obsessed with scandal, even as more substantive issues of sexualization and childhood are ignored or misdirected.
Final words:
“I have seen far more perverse things online that are harmful for children. I see women wearing bloomers out every single day. I own a babydoll dress. So this personally is not something that is going to ruffle my feathers. I will not be joining in on the Olivia Rodrigo hate this time.” — Brett, [18:45]