Was This NFL Player Being Antisemitic? | Episode 112

Summary

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The Brett Cooper Show – Episode 112: "Was This NFL Player Being Antisemitic?"

Date: December 20, 2025
Host: Brett Cooper

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Episode Overview

This episode examines the growing controversy surrounding Los Angeles Rams wide receiver Puka Nakua, who became embroiled in accusations of antisemitism after an innocuous end zone dance suggestion on Aiden Ross's livestream. Brett Cooper critiques the chain reaction by politicians, organizations, and media in spinning a “nothing burger” event into a firestorm, reflecting on larger issues of outrage culture, context, and accountability in sports and society.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Setting the Scene: Outrage Over a Dance

• [00:55] Brett introduces the controversy, mocking the NFL’s focus:

  “So in a sports league full of domestic violence and drugs and dog fighting rings, the thing that really set executives off this week was a potentially anti Semitic dance in the end zone. Great job, NFL. You really knocked it out of the park.”

• The incident started when Aiden Ross (Jewish streamer) taught Puka Nakua a new touchdown dance, which referenced a gesture from a meme (the "Happy Merchant") labeled antisemitic by the ADL.
• [01:34] Brett plays the brief, seemingly innocuous livestream clip of Aiden instructing the dance.

2. The Political and Media Firestorm

• Representative Eric Swalwell’s critical tweet condemning Puka Nakua and demanding apology or expulsion is highlighted:

  “He should apologize or be dropped for an anti Semitic touchdown dance. It's anti Semitic, of course. Welcome to 2025.” [02:40]

• Brett’s take:

  “I genuinely think that Puka doing a dance on a livestream for 18 seconds, really, like three seconds, is pretty low on the totem pole here. Especially when I don't think he even knew what he was doing.” [03:23]

3. The Role of Intent and Context

• Listeners and commenters note that intentions matter—Puka was just copying a dance taught by a Jewish streamer, with no ill will.

  “Intentions matter. This does not strike me as a man who hates these people.” [04:13]

• Brett:

  “Like, I'm sorry, but not everyone is going to be scrolling through the ADL's list of offensive memes, gestures, people, organizations every day to make sure that they stay up to date. Like, that is just completely ridiculous. This was blown utterly out of proportion.” [04:32]

4. The Streisand Effect and Institutional Apologies

• The controversy snowballs due to political and media amplification.

  “This is a proper way to spread social contagion. Yes. Like, had this story not been amplified by people like Swalwell and the media, I literally think that it would have gone nowhere.” [06:22]

• Corporate and institutional responses:
  • NFL statement: “The NFL strongly condemns all form of discrimination and derogatory behavior...”
  • Rams statement: “There is no place in this world for antisemitism as well as other forms of prejudice or hostility towards the Jewish people and people of any religion, ethnicity or race.”
• Puka Nakua issues a public apology, stating he was unaware of any antisemitic connotation:

  "At the time, I had no idea that this was anti Semitic in nature and perpetrated harmful stereotypes against Jewish people. I deeply apologize..." [08:47]

5. Cancel Culture and Escalating Outrage

• Brett draws parallels to previous outrage cycles (racism, feminism, #MeToo), warning of the diminishing weight of important terms:

  “…these are all examples of a very slippery slope. And the outrage is simply exhausting. We have seen this story before and it does not have a good ending. Words have weight. They should have weight. And with stories like this, with outrage like this, you are stripping all of it away.” [13:14]

• Highlights aggressive rhetoric from groups like Stop Antisemitism:

  “We will shine a light on you that, thanks to Google and SEO, will follow you for the rest of your life... Our work will always be documented.” — Stop Antisemitism Representative [11:59]

6. Collateral: Puka’s Difficult Week

• The controversy grew as Puka was also criticized for calling NFL refs “bullshitting” on the same livestream, leading to another forced apology. [14:24]
• Compounding issues: Puka’s brother was reportedly arrested for stealing an NBA player’s car, adding to public scrutiny.

7. Brett’s Take on NFL Priorities

• Brett lampoons the NFL for selectively enforcing discipline more fiercely for harmless celebrations than for serious criminal violations:

  “So dangerous. Apparently [the nose swipe celebration] means you are wiping out the competition. I don't even know.” [17:07]

  • Examples cited:
    • Josh Allen/Elijah Moore fined for “throat slit” gesture.
    • CeeDee Lamb’s “nose swipe” celebration banned.
    • Travis Kelce’s “arrow” celebration scrutinized.
  • Compares focus on dances to leniency towards players with criminal convictions.

  “There are countless players who have been arrested for domestic battery, theft, drug possession, you name it. They are actually put in jail and they get to continue to play with no suspension, no fine, no league discipline.” [17:37]

8. Final Thoughts: Distraction and Memory

• Brett concludes that media outrage—not Puka’s actions—caused any real distraction, noting Nakua played one of the best games of his career during the firestorm. [16:10]
• Advises that in today’s short-attention-span world, the controversy will soon be forgotten:

  “Everybody has pee brains. They will forget about this soon enough because it certainly is ridiculous.” [18:52]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [00:55] Brett (sarcastically critiquing NFL priorities):
  "In a sports league full of domestic violence and drugs and dog fighting rings, the thing that really set executives off this week was a potentially anti-Semitic dance in the end zone..."
• [02:40] Rep. Eric Swalwell’s escalation:
  "He should apologize or be dropped for an anti Semitic touchdown dance. It's anti Semitic, of course. Welcome to 2025."
• [03:23] Brett on proportionality: "Puka doing a dance on a livestream for... really, like three seconds, is pretty low on the totem pole here."
• [06:22] Brett on outrage cycle: "Had this story not been amplified by people like Swalwell and the media, I literally think that it would have gone nowhere."
• [11:59] Stop Antisemitism representative on permanent consequences:
  “Your actions will not disappear into the darkness. We will shine a light on you that, thanks to Google and SEO, will follow you for the rest of your life.”
• [13:14] Brett summing up: "Words have weight. They should have weight. And with stories like this, with outrage like this, you are stripping all of it away."

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Segment Timestamps

• [00:55] – Controversy Introduction & Livestream Clip Breakdown
• [02:40] – Political and Media Escalation (Eric Swalwell’s Tweet)
• [03:40] – Intentions and Context
• [04:32] – Internet & Community Reaction, Streisand Effect
• [06:16] – NFL & Rams Official Statements, Public Apology
• [11:59] – Stop Antisemitism’s “Permanent Memory” Threat
• [13:14] – Commentary on Cancel Culture & Definition Creep
• [14:24] – Additional Criticism: Remarks About NFL Refs
• [16:10] – Puka’s Game Performance Amidst the Firestorm
• [17:07] – NFL Discipline Selectivity / Celebration Bans
• [18:52] – Final Thoughts on Outrage Cycles and Memory

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Takeaways

• The controversy exemplifies how minor incidents can become cultural flashpoints through amplification by politicians, activists, and media—even (or especially) when intent is absent.
• Brett argues such cycles dilute the meaning of serious accusations and undermine proportional responses to genuine injustice.
• Puka Nakua is presented as a casualty of social contagion, apologizing for an action he didn’t understand, while the real outrage should focus elsewhere.
• The episode closes with a skeptical, satirical tone, challenging listeners to reconsider collective priorities and the direction of outrage culture.

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Transcript

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So in a sports league full of domestic violence and drugs and dog fighting rings, the thing that really set executives off this week was a potentially anti Semitic dance in the end zone. Great job, NFL. You really knocked it out of the park. So what was supposed to be an innocent appearance on Aiden Ross livestream has turned into an absolute crap show for the NFL and for the Rams wide receiver Puka Natua. Now, there are two parts of this controversy. We're gonna cover both of them. One involved Puka's comments, NFL refs. And the second, and more importantly, involved an offensive dance that Aiden Ross wanted Puka to do in the end zone. Let's watch this clip.

[Aiden Ross]

Spin it, spin it. Flex. Then look and go like this.

[Puka Nakua]

All right.

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Yes, yes.

[Aiden Ross]

It's like a bow. Yes, just like this.

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All right, so do it.

[Puka Nakua]

All one. Yo, spin it.

[Aiden Ross]

Flex, dude.

[Brett Cooper]

In the camera, in the camera, we actually do it. So that was it. The clip that I just played you was 18 seconds long. It's Aiden Ross saying, hey, we're gonna make you a new end zone celebration. This is what I want you to do. And he does all three of those moves together. And you're probably sitting there and you're watching this 18 second clip and you're like, I'm so confused. Okay, well, let me explain to you why this dance is apparently so controversial. Better yet, let me allow representative Eric Swalwell to explain it. Before we dive into that, I do want to say this is our last episode of the year. It is very bittersweet, this. You know, I should say, even though I'm saying that this is like the last episode of the year, there's probably gonna be some insane thing and I'm gonna be making an episode anyway, so I might see you before January 3rd. But I wanna thank you guys for the most amazing first year of the Red Cooper show. I have had so much fun doing this for you guys. Thank you. Let's do it again next year. All right, let's dive into this story. This seems like a great one to end the year on. So after that seemingly innocent clip from Aiden's livestream started circulating, Representative Eric Swalil, who, remember, is running for governor in California to fight Trump, that's his number one priority for. For the citizens of California, he decided that he needed to speak out because this was such an atrocity. This is what he wrote. The Los Angeles Jewish community is on edge after the Bandai beach massacre. And what does this asshole Puka do? He promises an anti Semitic touchdown dance for his Thursday night game. He should apologize or be dropped. He should apologize or be dropped for an anti Semitic touchdown dance. It's anti Semitic, of course. Welcome to 2025. So because Puka did a dance on a livestream, he is apparently an asshole and he should lose his career.

[Stop Antisemitism Representative]

God.

[Brett Cooper]

Thank you, Eric Swalwell, for telling us where priorities lie in the grand scheme of things that are offensive and racist. Maybe this is crazy to say, but I genuinely think that Puka doing a dance on a livestream for 18 seconds, really, like three seconds, is pretty low on the totem pole here. Especially when I don't think he even knew what he was doing. Like, I do not think Puka was like, ooh, Aiden, let's go make fun of Juice. Obviously not. And I also don't think most of the people who stumbled on this clip initially understood why it was suddenly so controversial. But just so we are all on the same page, we have the same context. This is the mem that that dance or gesture is referring to. So it is apparently from the Happy Merchant meme. You can see it's listed right there on the ADL's website. Now, somebody responded to Swalwell's post and said Puka Nakua thought that he was learning a fun dance. A popular Jewish streamer taught it to him and encouraged him. He promised the Jewish streamer that he would do the dance if he scored a touchdown. Everyone was all smiles. There was no anti Semitic comments or bigotry intended in this video. I think that this is taken way out of context. Intentions matter. This does not strike me as a man who hates these people. Yes, intentions do matter in this situation. And Aiden does this move all the time. Here's a photo right here. It's a famous gif that now goes around. It's like, under all of his posts. So whether Doing this gesture, doing this dance is right or wrong, whether you are offended or not. UKA probably did not think anything of it. He was not being intentionally malicious. Like, I'm sorry, but not everyone is going to be scrolling through the ADL's list of offensive memes, gestures, people, organizations every day to make sure that they stay up to date. Like, that is just completely ridiculous. This was blown utterly out of proportion. Another person commented and said, so Aiden, who is Jewish, tells Puka to do a gesture for his touchdown celebration. Puka, who isn't in on Aiden's joke, does it and they want Pooka's head. I'm 100% sure that Aiden didn't mean for it to get like this, but people are so ready these days. It sucks for Pooka. And I don't know whether Aiden knew that this was gonna get Pooka in trouble or whether he intended that. He has come out to say that if Pooka, you know, gets fined, he will pay all of it. You know, he is in support of him. But it does suck for Pooka because now he's in the news for something that he did not intend to be controversial or even know was controversial. And something that should have been a nothing burger has now been turned into a major story. Like, I was talking to my manager before I sat down to film this episode and I was like explaining the to her and she was like, like, really, Brett? You want to like end the year on this story? Like, is this even a story? Like, why? Why is a story? And I'm like, that is exactly the point. It's absurd. This was made into a story by people like Eric Swalwell and reporters and sports media personalities who are talking about this like it is the end of the world. Take this clip for example.

[Puka Nakua]

Puka, do not do that touchdown celebration that these guys were telling you about. Spinning a dreidel and making this hand motion. This hand motion I'm making on the screen right now is an anti Semitic trope. It is awful to me. It's beyond offensive. It's not funny, it's not fun.

[Brett Cooper]

It's beyond offensive. Even though most people online didn't even know what it meant or that it was anything of any kind of significance. Like, I'm sorry, that is not something that people are walking around thinking about on a day to day basis. Also, that clip just cracked me up because he's literally doing the motion and being like, don't do it. I'm doing this thing. It's really bad. Don't do it. Like, Are we. She can't win right now. And I mean, I also thought that we were over this whole, like, hall monitor shtick. These politically incorrect offenses that people have to apologize for. Otherwise, you know, people will have their head. And yet here we are in 2025 still doing the same thing. Somebody commented and said Streisand effect. This is a proper way to spread social contagion. Yes. Like, had this story not been amplified by people like Swalwell and the media, I literally think that it would have gone nowhere. Like, I really do not believe that NFL fans are locked in on Aiden Ross dream every intricate thing that he's doing. I doubt they have the adl. No. No list memorized. Like, I do not think that people would have cared. I do not think it would have gotten any traction. But because of the media and because of the outrage, the whole thing got so big that an apology tour started. Of course, the NFL even made a statement. They said, the NFL strongly condemns all form of discrimination and derogatory behavior directed towards any group or individual. The continuing rise of anti Semitism must be addressed across the world and the NFL will continue to stand with our partners in this fight. Hatred has no place in our sport or our society. They're gonna like print that on their helmets next season. The Rams, which is Puka's team, they also put out a statement and they said, there is no place in this world for anti Semitism as well as other forms of prejudice or hostility towards the Jewish people and people of any religion, ethnicity or race. And like, obviously these statements are not malicious, but again, it has been blown so out of proportion, they're making these grandiose statements about equity and non discrimination, about a dance, a player, possibly with cte. He didn't even know what he was doing. And we're making all these statements anyway. Van Puka, he had to make his apology, which he collaborated on with the Stop Jewish Hate organization. So this is what he posted on his social media. When I appeared the other day on a social media livestream, it was suggested to me to perform a specific movement as part of my next touchdown celebration. At the time, I had no idea that this was anti Semitic in nature and perpetrated harmful stereotypes against Jewish people. I deeply apologize to anyone who was offended by my actions as I do not stand for any form of racism, bigotry or hate of another group of people. Again, he did not know what he was doing. It was an innocent mistake. And now he is making sponsored apologies on his Instagram and the NFL is all whipped into a dizzy over this thing. Like, at this point, we should all just like, stop watching the NFL and just watch Angel Studios instead. And Angel Studios new film. David is a stunning animated musical that brings to life the story of a shepherd boy who became a king. And it will be in theaters this Christmas. And if you loved the Prince of Egypt or movies like the Lion King, you will love this. It is epic, it's emotional, it's full of heart. This is a movie your whole family can enjoy. It is beautifully animated, musically powerful, and deeply moving. David's courage reminds us that God can use anyone, no matter how small, for something extraordinary. 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All right, now back to the story. Thanks to these apologies, this whole apology tour, you have officially turned a nothing burger, a joke on a dumb livestream, an innocent mistake into a league wide controversy that the entire sports world and political world is now catching onto. Jason Whitlock made a great point and he said 96 to 99% of people would have no idea that there was any significance to the dance. This controversy is going to trigger the wrong kind of backlash. But you know, I was like thinking about this and all of this attention was probably the point. It seems like everybody wanted to make an example of puka, which is, you know, not surprising considering that the NFL is always chomping at the bit to be at the forefront of every single social justice warrior fight. And on top of that, we have organizations like Stop Antisemitism who have made it clear that someone's anti Semitism, whatever they deem as anti Semitism, will foster, follow them for the rest of their lives. And I'm not making that up. This is actually something that was said. Take a look at this video.

[Stop Antisemitism Representative]

Your actions will not disappear into the darkness. We will shine a light on you that, thanks to Google and SEO, will follow you for the rest of your life. When you look for a job, when you look for a spouse, when you look for a nanny, when you look for anything. Our work will always be documented. Again, thanks to Google and SEO today, Stop Antisemitism, I'm proud to say, runs one of the most robust anti Semitism enforcement operations in the United States. Monitoring campuses, digital networks, activist groups and public officials, documenting incidents in real time and mobilizing millions of people of allies that are quietly by our side.

[Brett Cooper]

I mean, is this not the kind of tarring and feathering the cancel culture that we all stood up to like 5 years ago? Like I'm asking that genuinely no malicious intent, just like genuinely asking because it does seem hypocritical. Now, I do not think that PUKA is up there on any list yet, but I would argue that it's this type of rhetoric and these types of threats that led people like Swalwell to say that Puka should be dropped, that his career should be over because he accidentally did a dance that offended some people. The same type of rhetoric that drove the NFL and drove the Rams to frantically make statements against him all over a dance on a livestream like, I'm sorry, but there are genuine atrocities happening across the world. Shouldn't we reserve this kind of horror and outrage for the real and vile displays of racism and bitterness? Or are we now just like slinging these words around like they are nothing? And the reason why I'm bringing this up is because this is not a new thing. Like, we saw this happen with the word racism in 2020 and how white people were then forced to apologize for microaggressions when they didn't even know that they were allegedly being racist. We saw it happen with the word feminism and how now feminism doesn't really have a definition, it's just been turned into man hatred. We saw it happen with the MeToo movement where people were slinging accusations around left and right, which took away from the real instances of rape and sexual assault that did happen within Hollywood. Like, these are all examples of a very slippery slope. And the outrage is simply exhausting. We have seen this story before and it does not have a good ending. Words have weight. They should have weight. And with stories like this, with outrage like this, you are stripping all of it away. It does not make sense to me. And unfortunately, Puka is simply facing the consequences to round out this story because there are other layers of it if you're not, you know, an NFL fan. This was not Puka's only transgression this week that got him into hot water. Because on that same Aiden stream, he also made some comments about NFL refs that got him in into hot water. Just take a listen.

[Aiden Ross]

Raspy bullshitting sometimes.

[Brett Cooper]

Oh, 100%.

[Aiden Ross]

I'm like, they had a yes, the refs are the worst.

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[Aiden Ross]

Some of the rules aren't. And like there. These guys want to be. These guys are lawyers and like they want to be on TV too, bro. Like the game. You don't think he's. He's texting his friends in the group chat like, yo, you guys just saw me Sunday Night Football. Like that was no way. Like that wasn't PI. Like, but I called it.

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[Brett Cooper]

So basically, basically he's doing what every single sports fan does, which is complain about the refs. But when you are an actual player. This is something that will get you fined. I'm here so I won't get fined. You know, coaches and players get fined for talking about the refs all the time. And so Puka also had to make an apology for that. And then on top of all of that, again, it's just been a bad week for him. It came out that Puka's brother was arrested for allegedly stealing a Lakers player car. You can see the headline right here. So let's just say that Puka's PR team, his just team in general, has been working overtime this week. I saw a tweet on X it was making fun of that and said Pooka's PR team over the last few days, literally, I'm sure they are exhausting and I'm sure that he is putting all of his money from his rookie contract towards crisis PR this week because it has been a mess. Now what made this whole fiasco and outrage cycle and PR crisis even better was that all of this was coming to a head on Thursday when Puka and the Rams had a major game against the Seahawks. And Puka, because everything going on was the talk of the game, all eyes were on him and the potential of his dancing. Somebody posted and said how the world will be watching tonight if Puka Nakua finds the end zone. But listen, all of that aside, all of the outrage, all of the laser eyes on him, Hookah played one of the best games of his entire career. Obviously you guys know I am married to a football fan. I am not the biggest football fan. So I have this written down here. He apparently caught 12 passes, got 225 yards, had two touchdowns, and no, he did not do the dance. Alex told me that this might have been the best game for any wide receiver this season or came close to it. But anyway, this was an incredible game and he did not distract from it by doing the dance, even though it was literally what everybody else was talking about it. And I will say though, the outrage from the NFL over a potential dance in this end zone is like par for the course for the NFL at this point because they often have their panties in a knot over how their players are celebrating. Like Josh Allen and Elijah Moore were both fined 13k recently for doing this. Now watch and see if you can tell what they're getting fined for.

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[Brett Cooper]

All right, let's just zoom in there because guys, I'm not kidding. I watched this seven second clip 15 times. I was like up close on my screen being like, what are. What could they possibly have gotten fined $13,000 for? Apparently they did some kind of like throat slit movement. And, you know, thank God the NFL cracked down on all forms of violence by banning another celebration, which is the nose sniff celebration. Watch this.

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[Brett Cooper]

Wow. So dangerous. Apparently that means you are wiping out the competition. I don't even know. Somebody commented this was really funny and said, I had two kids making straight A'. As soon as they saw CD swipe his nose, they immediately dropped out and one is in prison now. Thanks a lot. Yeah, like, the NFL banning any of these celebrations is really gonna help people out in the world. Like, I mean, come on, some of the celebrations they have banned are just like, ridiculous. Like, apparently, like the Travis Kelce arrow thing is also banned, but he's never actually been fined for it because he's Travis Kelce and he's dating Taylor Swift and the Chiefs. I don't even know. The whole thing is just ridiculous. So maybe if the NFL just paints one more Choose Love slogan in the end zone, all of this will be resolved. And it's just so funny to me because while they're making statements about dances and fining, players wiping their noses, whatever it is, they will often turn a blind eye to the players who actually break the law. There are countless players who have been arrested for domestic battery, theft, drug possession, you name it. They are actually put in jail and they get to continue to play with no suspension, no fine, no league discipline. Or you have players like Rasheed Rice from the Chiefs who caused a huge car crash in 2024 because he was street racing. He did get suspended, but then Chiefs players were coming out in T shirts defending him, saying we want him back, that it was like unfair that he was fined all of this stuff. So all of this to say, my point in bringing all of this up is that the outrage within the NFL, with the players, with the league, it is often selective and it is often based on the quote unquote current thing. And nothing this week needed to be as controversial or newsworthy as it was. Like, in my opinion, Puka's only crime was maybe causing a distraction for his team that took their heads out of it. But then again, you could also argue that the distraction wasn't caused by him. It was caused by the media and the outrage. And they still played well, especially him. So I don't really know at this point. Needless to say, maybe just for the time being, he should avoid livestreams in the near future. Everybody has pee brains. They will forget about this soon enough because it certainly is ridiculous. Limu Imu and Doug.

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