Josh Hammer (7:23)

Giving them a platform, giving them a voice. These are the people that work hard every day that come home with grease on their hands after working double shifts. These are the people, like my family, that get hurt.

Brett Cooper (7:33)

I mean, like, half of the chairs are empty. Here's another one. Strong sanctions by the Trump administration against Supreme Court justices and officials of national elections. Mission. That last one is the greatest video that I saw this weekend. It tops everything coming out of Barbie Fest. It is the best video out of cpac. Like, let's just zoom in here for a moment. Look at this man. He's sitting in a sea of empty chairs. It's not even like people have gotten up to leave the event to go get a drink, whatever. Like the brochures, the programs are unmoved on the chairs. Nobody's butts have touched those chairs. He's sitting there in a half empty conference hall, totally asleep. Like, that might be the most perfect image for politics right now. You have empty chairs. Boomers who are asleep at the wheel. Like, this is the generation that wants us to put boots on the ground in Iran and they cannot even stay awake enough to hear the speeches with all the propaganda. Like, that is how tired they are. You should not be making our decisions about foreign policy and where our military goes. I'm sorry, you literally cannot even stay awake. Now, obviously, to be fair, even though I think most of the chairs were Empty. There were people who did show up and there were people at the conference who were very bought in to the messaging and to the ideas. Like, these are the videos that Trump's team is probably showing him to encourage him to make more questionable decisions. Just watch.

Pro-war Conservative Woman (8:57)

I started off pretty upset with the war. I have an 18 year old son, so that really hit close to home. We had to get him registered for the Selective Service and everything. And so I wasn't happy about it. But then I saw these three boys that were publicly hung in Iran. That regime has been threatening Americans and has been killing Americans for years. If my son was called to go, I would still support the war.

Brett Cooper (9:31)

Listen, I mean, she is allowed to feel that way. I certainly do not. She is allowed to wear her bedazzled, rhinestoned Trump jacket with her MAGA hat and say that if her son was sent off to war to do regime change, that is her right. But I certainly do not agree. Now I do have to say this next video, it might top even that one.

Pro-Trump Supporter (9:55)

He is the president of peace. So this is to bring peace in the area. When this gets taken care of, it's going to be peace. And, and it's. I believe I'm on Truth Social. That's the only social media I do. And I believe that he's going to have bring peace and it's gonna be very short. And he's got a plan. He's a genius.

Brett Cooper (10:15)

There's always a plan. There's always a plan. I do have to say I appreciate these people because I want there to be a plan. Like I have said since the beginning, like, I would rather Trump be doing this than some other president because if we're gonna go to war in the Middle east, like, I trust him like a little bit more. I hope there's a plan. But now, like six weeks into this, when the goalpost has been shifted, when now we're backtracking on why we're there, I'm like, ah, I really don't know. There's a plan. Maybe she should get off of Truth Social. Like, I'm just being honest, guys, about where my mind is going, but also I just have to go back to this idea of like Trump watching these videos. Like, can you just imagine his next Truth Social post of like, this beautiful lady, she loves me. MAGA loves me. The brilliant base of MAGA has never been more united. PS Go watch Mark Levin show. It's gonna be like, oh my God, I want to literally, like, put my head in the sand. Okay, anyway, that was a low blow. I had to. Sorry. Moving on. Anyway, the point is there just weren't that many people there. Some were bought in, but honestly, people just didn't show up. And there are a lot of people pointing fingers right now and trying to blame shit. But I think honestly a lot of that was probably because of the economy. It's. It's expensive to travel right now. It's not pleasant to travel right now. Everything is more expensive, especially thanks to what is going on overseas. So I think that was probably a contributing factor. But I think maybe even more than that, a lot of it is because people are just exhausted right now. Like, they're not bought in. They are not united by a common goal or a mission or a positive, like, light at the end of the tunnel that they see. Like the enemy isn't even the left anymore, it's just each other. And even more than that, I feel like there's just a general sense of apathy. 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Brett Cooper (14:47)

All right, now back to the point. And what was happening at cpac. Again, the enemy is each other. There is so much apathy. And you know, I was watching all of these speeches and I was like, yeah, okay, well we could be thinking positively about the future fighting for the midterms because obviously those are coming up and it doesn't feel like it's gonna be that great. For us. But barely anybody who got on stage actually talked about that. Like, for example, Josh Hammer was a speaker. And by the way, I just have to say, I had never heard of this man until we started talking about Charlie Kirk's group chats. And I am positively exhausted by him now. Did not care to know about him. Do not. My life is not made better by no way. I'm sorry. Again, low blow. Just had to say. Anyway, he was a speaker and he just talked about other people.

Josh Hammer (15:26)

Just watch the retard, right. Denizens of podcast reject the fundamental essence, however, of maga. Much like the neo Marxist left, the retard right doesn't think America was ever great. And they certainly don't think that America is capable of being made great once again, they are therefore explicitly anti magic.

Brett Cooper (15:47)

You got the gist of it. His entire speech was about the retard, right? And Megyn Kelly and Tucker Carlson and all the things I just have to say. It is ironic that he was saying that those people were never really MAGA when Josh Hammer himself was a never Trumper. So, like, let's just pipe down, sir. Anyway, moving on from that, I really just played that clip of Josh Hammer so that I could show you my favorite tweet from the weekend. This is from redheaded libertarian. And she said, CPAC planning meeting. Guy one, how do we appeal to the kids? Guy two. Gay vampires. You have my attention. Like, I'm sorry, I had no idea until I read that tweet how much Josh Hammer looks like the little vampire from Sesame Street. Just look him up, you'll see. Anyway, needless to say, the other point that I'm trying to make here is that Josh Hammer didn't really bring in a crowd. Like, the man was talking to chairs. And to be honest, guys, so was Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz was preaching to chairs about how Venezuela and Cuba and Iran will all have new governments, new amazing governments in the next six months. Just watch.

Josh Hammer (16:42)

Today we have a greater chance that in the next six months we will see a new government in Venezuela, in Cuba and in Iran.

Brett Cooper (16:59)

Interesting. You know, based on my memory of MAGA and what that stood for, I really thought we were supposed to be America first and that we were against regime change as a coalition. But maybe. Maybe I'm just the crazy one. Now, to be fair, I am not just here to crap on those two men. Even though obviously doing that has become a staple on my show, specifically with Ted Cruz. Because the real point that I wanna make here is that no one showed up for anyone on either side of the modern conservative right. Like for example, not for Bannon, as you can see here, empty chairs in front of him as well. Not even for Matt Gaetz who essentially gave the exact opposite speech as Ted Cruz in regards to Iran and foreign policy. Again, empty chairs everywhere. Now I am showing you all of this just so you have the full picture of what the event looks like. Because if you went on X you probably would have seen people saying things like this. Apparently CPAC is empty this year. Curious how this keeps happening to groups that align themselves with the post liberals and the new right influencer scene. AKA thanks Josh Hammer, the retard right, America first, non Zionist gripers, whatever you want to call them. And then you have that same side, the retard right saying lmao boo. This is because of Ted Cruz and Josh Hammer and they did this. They ruined cpac. Like I'm sorry controversial opinion. Maybe everybody ruined it. Maybe everyone is just too busy with their normal lives. Maybe they are just too busy trying to make ends meet in this economy. Maybe they are hoping that we do not get dragged into another decades long regime change war in the Middle East. Maybe they are hoping that we don't hit $200 oil and maybe they just couldn't be bothered because of all of that to attend this convention. Maybe they aren't fired up right now and they don't really think any of these people could actually fire them up. Maybe they are demoralized and checked out because in a lot of ways that's how I feel. Like I used to get behind this microphone like back on comments actually leading up to the 2024 election. And I was so excited to talk about politics. I had so much hope. There was so much unity. You had this incredible coalition. I remember getting chills watching the insane Trump ad where they talked about about unity. And you had Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr. And J.D. vance and Cash Patel and Trump. And he was talking about strength through peace and he was talking about unity with the left and the right and a positive hope for America. And I'm like where, where did that feeling go? And why am I sitting here every day going oh my God like what am I gonna talk about today? Because everything just seems so depressing and it's all ironic because then you have the admin posting things like MAGA is 100% behind Donald Trump. Trump has a hundred percent approval rating with maga. And that's kind of why I was asking you guys that question at the beginning because it's like, okay, then what actually is MAGA now? Because I have, like, 10 MAGA hats, I would have considered myself MAGA, but I'm not giving Trump up 100% approval rating personally. Maybe you guys are. I personally am not, like, who actually identifies with that anymore. And I'm not saying that in, like, a rhetorical way of, like, who could identify, but, like, actually, who is that base? Because the last time I checked, Trump said that MAGA was just the people who always agreed with it based on truth social posts. So I don't even know what to think anymore. So, yeah, I would say that this whole weekend, watching it unfold on social media was disheartening, but also not completely surprising. Like, I am not shocked at all that most of these speakers were speaking to empty chairs. And honestly, I kind of feel like a total buffoon. I don't know if that's the right word to say. Maybe it's just that I think it's ironic because literally this time last year, like, March and February of last year, I was making all of these videos about how the left was having this massive crisis, an authenticity crisis. They didn't have a leader. They had no positivity. There was no unity, which was why they failed in 2024. And that kind of unity and genuine joy, not the fake Kamala joy, but the genuine joy is what, in my opinion, like, emotionally pushed Trump over the finish line for so many voters in 2024. And then a year later, here I am, feeling demoralized and disheartened, watching CPAC unfold online, looking like a red, white, and blue Barbie dream fest. Meanwhile, at the exact same time, this is what the no Kings protest looked like across America. And I know that we have made a lot of jokes about the no Kings protest from earlier this year. The geriatric women, you know, dressed like fricking tacos, dancing in the streets, the people in wheelchairs rolling out of their assisted living facilities to come protest on the streets. But, like, I don't know what they did, but they pulled it together. They pulled it together, and while CPAC was dwindling, they were literally roaring in the streets. Now, granted, I'm sure that a lot of them are still MSNBC boomers, but we cannot write off millions of people taking to the streets. And so I'm watching all this unfold, and I'd love to sit here and go, okay, guys, well, we gotta fight back. Let's mobilize. Let's, you know, focus on the midterms. We gotta elect great people we gotta push through Trump's agenda, all of that. We need to elect amazing people. But we did that. We did that in 2024 when Trump won. That meant the Republicans, this new movement of conservatives, had the presidency, the House, the Senate. We had a conservative majority in the Supreme Court. And what have they gotten done? Like, it doesn't feel like we're winning. Like, for example, Doge was not even able to last a year. It was supposed to be an 18 month program, and it only lasted until May of last year. Meanwhile, just a couple of months ago, Minority Leader Chuck Schumer boasted that he had bipartisan, bipartisan support to reverse all of those DOGE cuts and spend even more money in an upcoming spending bill. That doesn't make me feel great. Now, obviously, I have to be fair. There are things that I have been really happy with, especially regarding HHS and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Everything he did with vaccines. But I liked a lot of Trump's executive orders. But I do wish Congress had been able to, you know, codify more of them without just smushing them together in massive spending bills that spend more than Doge even, you know, attempted to cut. I obviously don't really feel great about what's happening globally at the moment, but I just wanted to put that out there because I'm not like, totally doom and gloom, but emotionally, I'm like, I'm not really in, like, a fighting spirit. Now, all of that being said, I will say, I am not one of those people that is going to sit here and say, like, opt out, don't vote, go vote for Democrats. Like, I think that is ridiculous. Obviously, I am not in support of that. But I do understand people tuning out why they feel demoralized and why they might even go so far as to say those things, even though I don't agree with them. And yes, obviously there are podcast wars that are raging. You have Mark Levitt and Megyn Kelly, like, yelling at each other on X about what's going on in each other's pants. Unfortunately. Horrifying that we all have to read that. But I don't think that they created what is going on right now in the real world. Like, yes, that is indicative of bigger debates in politics right now, but that is just drama that's going on in our weird little Con Inc Bubble. Like, most people in the world are just done because life moves on. They have children to raise, they have bills to pay, they have jobs to go to that they hope are not taken by AI. And by the way, it isn't the podcaster's fault that the White House had Melania walk out with a robot talking about how AI should take over teachers jobs. Like, when everybody's reading about how AI is coming for all entry level jobs and everybody's gonna be out of work, the only people that are gonna be able to have jobs are plumbers. That was probably not the best thing to promote, just like, image wise. Even if that might be the future in like 20 years. Maybe we shouldn't be talking about that or promoting that when everybody feels so insecure and so scared about the future. So I guess what I'm trying to say is that yes, I do think that the podcast wars have created drama, but let's not pin the root of the problem on that. It goes a lot deeper and I. I don't know how it'll turn out for us in the midterms. Like, if CPAC is any indication, then, yeah, we might be cooked. The next RNC might look like Fyre Fest 2.0. I have no words. Hi, gal, how you doing? This is Nora.