World War PsyOps

Summary

The Brilliant Idiots – "World War PsyOps" (April 3, 2026)

Episode Overview

In this lively and irreverent episode, Charlamagne Tha God and Andrew Schulz dive deep into the week's top cultural, social, and political issues—delivering sharp takes and plenty of laughs along the way. Key themes include food debates (notably, pizza), the viral power of comedy in the age of AI, Drewski’s internet-breaking sketch, the ongoing ICE "psy-op" at American airports, the war and international propaganda, the rise of personality-driven celebrity, and some spicy debates on gender roles and parenthood.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Nashville, Pizza Wars & Food Hot Takes

• Nashville’s Culinary Surprises
  Charlamagne starts with a travel story about Nashville, calling it "White Atlanta" and praising its people and food—particularly Slim & Husky’s pizza, which sparks heated debate.
  • Charlamagne: "Some of the best pizza on the planet exists in Nashville, Tennessee." (01:24)
  • Schulz, a New Yorker, is appalled: "Listening to someone who's not from New York talk about pizza, it's insanity." (03:30)
• Pizza Authenticity Debate
  Debates over what constitutes good pizza: vegan slices, oxtail slices (Cuts & Slices, Brooklyn), classic plain slices vs. extravagant toppings.
  • Schulz: "If your plain slice doesn't rock, you don't make good pizza." (03:44)
  • Charlamagne: "Isn't an oxtail slice one of the most new things ever though?" (03:53)
  • Donnell Rawlings: weighs in on non-traditional pizza and acknowledges its appeal.
• Fast Food Chains vs. Local Spots
  Pizza Hut and Domino’s get unexpected shout-outs for their breadsticks and thin crust.
  • Schulz: "Domino's thin crust is elite." (07:12)
  • Charlamagne: "If you blow your head off, can we use it for the sauce?" (07:26)

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2. Drewski, Viral Comedy, and the AI Age

• Drewski’s Viral “Conservative Women” Sketch
  • The crew discusses Drewski’s latest sketch that mocks “conservative women,” noting the uproar and the confusion sparked by AI-generated content.
  • Charlamagne: "Drewski don't even gotta say shit...all the AI tweets, the AI videos, them shit be having me going, yo." (07:54)
• Comedy That Provokes
  • The group reflects on how rare it is in 2026 for pure comedy sketches to create significant controversy (not just political rants disguised as comedy).
  • Schulz: "I like when comedy riles shit up... I haven't seen comedy do that in a minute." (09:19)
• Sketch vs. Character Work
  • Is Drewski a sketch comedian? The crew splits hairs between sketch (structured setup-punchline) and character-driven performances tailored for the internet age.
  • Charlamagne: "It is character work. I mean, man, can you imagine if he had like actual writers..." (14:28)
  • Schulz: "Part of the benefit...is that it's made for the Internet attention span." (14:39)
• Drewski’s Impact and Risks
  • His success from internet virality to larger productions, but the potential risk to major endorsements due to controversial content.
  • Schulz: "This could stop him from getting a T Mobile ad...But people like when they see artists that have something to lose continue to make their art." (18:14)

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3. PsyOps, Airports, and Government Image Rehab

• ICE in Airports: A “PsyOp”?
  • Charlamagne details his surprisingly pleasant experience with ICE agents filling in for TSA staff amid a worker shortage, suggesting the government is rehabbing ICE’s image ahead of the elections.
  • Charlamagne: "They did everything TSA workers weren't...It's a psyop, and guess what? President Trump told us..." (22:04)
  • Schulz: "He wants them to ingratiate themselves to the people." (22:30)
  • Reads Trump’s Truth Social post praising ICE for their new image.
• SAVE Act & Voter ID Fears
  • Discussion shifts to potential midterm implications: ICE at polling stations and fears around new voting ID requirements (including the necessity to re-register to vote).
  • Charlamagne: "This is all a psychological operation for the midterms." (25:02)

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4. Viral Moments: Pageants, Cardi B, and Gender Debates

• Miss Thailand Contestant Goes Viral
  • Segment includes humorous speculation about a contestant’s gender and plastic surgery, touching on viral internet culture and global beauty standards. (28:01)
• Cardi B’s MSG Triumph
  • Charlamagne lauds Cardi’s journey from social media to superstar status with two sold-out Madison Square Garden shows.
  • Charlamagne: "That's Barty from fucking Instagram who we all watched grow to be this motherfucking megastar." (31:36)
  • On authenticity: "If you are just your true authentic self, the universe will give you exactly what you're supposed to get." (34:20)
• Cardi vs. “Teachability”
  • They debate whether Cardi’s route to fame can be taught or is simply innate charisma and timing.
  • Charlamagne: "You can tell a person every single thing Cardi did and it will not work for them." (35:52)

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5. Wrestling, Gender, and Physical Competitions

• Women’s Wrestling Goes Mainstream (and Viral)
  • Fox News anchor gets suplexed on live TV; the team discusses the visibility of women’s sports and the potential political undertones.
  • Charlamagne: "I need to see how often you watch other networks...what if you're a person that watches CNN all the time..." (37:57)
• Wrestling Gimmicks and Masculinity
  • Jokes about the “pizza man” wrestler character, comedic wrestling personas, and iconic wrestlers’ charisma.
  • Charlamagne: "You gotta be intimidating if you're a wrestler...Comedic characters never become world champions." (40:44)

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6. Rap Beef, Authenticity & Interview Dissection

• J. Cole’s Vulnerability Examined
  • After J. Cole’s honest interviews, Charlamagne questions how true artists should present themselves. Is it okay for a rapper to admit vulnerability, or should they remain bravado-driven?
  • Charlamagne: "What does J. Cole actually believe in?" (42:51)
  • Plays J. Cole’s interview: "If I'm taking on a rap Persona...when I'm rapping...that's how I try to attack. But if you ask me in real life, do I walk around like I'm the best rapper alive? No." (43:23)
  • Ongoing tension: the difference between real-life honesty and in-booth personas.
  • Schulz: "It might even chip away at the brand...If the brand is about being I'm the most macho...then that's not..." (46:25)
• Kendrick, Mystery & Maintaining Star Power
  • They praise Kendrick Lamar for maintaining mystique, which heightens his cultural value.
  • Schulz: "Mystery is good. In a time where we know everything about every person...not knowing things about people becomes currency and value." (51:45)

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7. International Affairs: Propaganda & Professor Jiang

• Internet Analysts and State Narratives
  • The hosts discuss Professor Jiang—whose predictions about war and US-China dynamics are going viral—and question whether he’s a genuine analyst or a mouthpiece for China.
  • Chris: "To me, a large part of the interview was Mehdi Hasan trying to get Professor Jiang to admit he's a mouthpiece...because why else would they let you back in after you've already been kicked out?" (69:05)
• How State Narratives Go Viral
  • The debate around whether China tolerates Jiang’s speech for Western consumption and discuss the content of his predictions—all reflecting current anxieties about war and the authenticity of viral experts.
  • Schulz: "If there's a Russian YouTuber that's popping off, like, Putin's not going to let that happen." (77:41)
  • Charlamagne: "I'm more concerned about the American people that be pushing propaganda for other countries." (77:54)

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8. Gender, Parenthood, and Cultural Stereotypes

• “For-Mothers” and Gender Roles
  • A recurring comedic bit emerges: combining “mother and father” into “for-mothers” or “mufathers,” debating the value of each parent’s contribution.
  • Charlamagne: "Everybody in this room is a mother and father. It took a mother and father to make you...You think you just are a mom?" (85:03)
• Hormones and Stereotypes
  • The crew jokes about women’s hormones, motherhood, and the daily mental load of parenting.
  • Charlamagne: "I saw a study...that said women's hormones are only normal, like, three days out of a month." (88:06)

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9. Audience Q&A and Light-hearted Closer

• Video Game Cheat Codes in Real Life
  • Favorite cheat codes and how they’d use them in daily life.
• If You Lost a Sense...
  • Most pick smell as the least essential, given the importance of sight, sound, and touch.
  • Schulz: "I could probably go without smell, but doesn't smell with your taste? ...That might even be an advantage." (84:16)
• Congressional Salaries & Perks
  • Quick research and jokes about Congressional pay during government shutdowns.
• Lindsey Graham at Disney World
  • More playful speculation about public figures’ private lives.
  • Charlamagne: "He's definitely a Mickey guy...He don't want to be nowhere near Minnie." (83:28)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• Pizza Hot Take:
  "Some of the best pizza on the planet exists in Nashville, Tennessee."
  — Charlamagne Tha God (01:24)
• New Yorker Pizza Pride:
  "Listening to someone who's not from New York talk about pizza, it's insanity."
  — Andrew Schulz (03:30)
• Comedy & Outrage:
  "I like when comedy riles shit up...I haven't seen comedy do that in a minute."
  — Andrew Schulz (09:19)
• ICE in Airports as ‘PsyOps’:
  "It's a psyop, and guess what? President Trump told us..."
  — Charlamagne Tha God (22:04)
• Cardi B’s Success:
  "If you are just your true authentic self, the universe will give you exactly what you're supposed to get."
  — Charlamagne Tha God (34:20)
• J. Cole’s Honesty:
  "If I'm taking on a rap Persona...when I'm rapping...that's how I try to attack. But if you ask me in real life, do I walk around like I'm the best rapper alive? No."
  — J. Cole (43:23)
• On State Propaganda:
  "I'm more concerned about the American people that be pushing propaganda for other countries."
  — Charlamagne Tha God (77:54)
• Gender Roles Bit:
  "Everybody in this room is a mother and father. It took a mother and father to make you...You think you just are a mom?"
  — Charlamagne Tha God (85:03)

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Important Timestamps

00:50-04:34 — Nashville and the Great Pizza Debate (vegan, oxtail, classic slices)
07:43-18:42 — Drewski’s Sketch, AI Controversy, Comedy as a Cultural Force
22:04-26:32 — ICE/TSA Airport Experience, “PsyOps,” Trump’s Truth Social Post
31:36-35:52 — Cardi B’s Rise, Social Media, Personality vs. Market Tactics
42:51-48:46 — J. Cole’s “Authenticity,” Rappers’ Personas vs. Real Beliefs
69:05-77:54 — Professor Jiang, Internet Geopolitics, State Narratives
85:03-91:08 — Gender Roles, Mother/Father Comedy Bit, Parenthood
79:03-end — Audience Questions, Government Pay, Senses, and Show Close

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Tone & Style

The conversation is fast, punchy, and unapologetically raw—equal parts hilarious digression and sharp social commentary. The hosts juggle irreverence and insight, often using comedy to grapple with serious topics, and typically close with self-aware reminders of their own status as “idiots”—blending idiocy with flashes of brilliance as promised.

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TL;DR

"World War PsyOps" delivers classic Brilliant Idiots energy: wild food opinions, heated culture debates, genuine anxiety over AI and propaganda, praise for viral creators like Drewski and Cardi B, skeptical deep dives into how government and media shape public opinion, and a signature blending of crude humor with pointed, sometimes thoughtful insights. Don’t count on consistency—count on entertainment, and plenty to talk about at the next cookout.

Transcript

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yep. Charlemagne the God Andrew Scho on a brilliant idiots podcast. Back for another week of brilliant idiotness. Hezekiah Walker.

[Andrew Schulz]

Hello, good sir.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Back for another week of brilliant idiot. Man, I just actually flew in. I got, I just got back from Nashville. White Atlanta. Okay. Ooh, I love Nashville, by the way.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's a great city.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's a great, great city.

[Andrew Schulz]

Great people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hope.

[Andrew Schulz]

There is hope in that city.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Some of the best pizza on the planet exists in Nashville.

[Andrew Schulz]

You need to, you need to listen. You're, you're, you're great at your hot takes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen to me.

[Andrew Schulz]

You need to just.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Some of the best pizza on the planet exist in Nashville, Tennessee.

[Andrew Schulz]

You are a brilliantly successful man. You have great takes. You, you're smart, you're all the things. You're from Monks Corner, South Carolina. I don't need you to fix your face and tell me what fucking good pizza is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen to me. Some of the best pizza on the planet exists in Nashville, Tennessee.

[Andrew Schulz]

It got babies on it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A spot car. There's no babies on the pizza. Maybe, I don't know, but there's something about the crust. Maybe there's a little baby flesh in the crust. But listen, there's something called. There's a spot called Slimmin Husky in Nashville, Tennessee, man. Ask. I want to know if Jelly Roll's ever had slimming Husky. And if not, they need to sponsor some pizza for him. It's a Nashville business.

[Andrew Schulz]

Jelly's skinny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's why it's called Slim and Husky. So both, both parties get taken care of.

[Andrew Schulz]

Deep dish and thin crust. Is that the idea?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, you had Slim and Husky before. Where the you at?

[Taylor]

When I went to Nashville.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

You guys didn't go get. You didn't have the iconic. What is it? Prince's hot chicken or something like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They got the hot chicken pizza. Slimming huskies, man. I'm trying to tell you. I didn't get that though. I. I like the nothing but a V thing, which is all vegan. So they got the vegan pepperoni with the vegan sauce.

[Andrew Schulz]

What about cheese?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Vegan cheese, non dairy.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's why it's like so frustrating.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just telling you what I like.

[Andrew Schulz]

It sounds like I didn't get that

[Charlamagne Tha God]

was they got something else. But I get the vegan. I like that. Is that shit slaps. By the way, I give vegan. Even when I'm in New York, if they got a vegan cut slices, has vegan cheese, I get vegan cheese.

[Andrew Schulz]

I apologize, everybody. Everybody from New York listening to this right now. I apologize. Everybody from Chicago, listen to this right now. I apologize.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They're all lactose intolerant. They're so happy that pizza places got vegan cheese options. Who is everybody in Chicago and New York City.

[Andrew Schulz]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

We are the most lactose tolerant city on the planet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Look at that. Oh, look at that menu.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no. You know, shout out slimming huskies. I want y' all to kill it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're lemon husky. Hot chicken pizza. When next time you're in Nashville.

[Andrew Schulz]

I was just there, man, so probably not for a little bit. Damn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I should have had them pull up and give you some.

[Andrew Schulz]

You should have had them pull up, man. I'm sure it's great. I'm just saying, listening to someone who's not from New York talk about pizza, it's insanity.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, it's so good, man. And I vegans.

[Andrew Schulz]

You throwing a vegan slice out there?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

You're not even supposed to put nothing on pizza.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah.

[Andrew Schulz]

If your plain slice doesn't rock, you don't make good pizza.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's good. Not a plain. I can't. That's boring, I'm telling you.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no. The plain slave's got to be so nice. It's not boring.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Isn't an oxtail slice one of the most new things ever though?

[Andrew Schulz]

So I don't. It's like my brain can't comprehend the things you're saying. I don't know if you're trying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You've never had an oxtail slice from cuts and slices.

[Taylor]

Do you have hoxtail before?

[Andrew Schulz]

God, yes, I've had oxtail. Listen,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

before you.

[Andrew Schulz]

I probably had oxtail before you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're probably right. But you ever had it on a slice of pizza, though?

[Andrew Schulz]

No. Charlemagne.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because of New York City. Have you ever had a lot cuts and slices? Is New York, baby. Cuts and slices? In Brooklyn, they got one in.

[Andrew Schulz]

Don't put oxtail on pizza.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We don't.

[Andrew Schulz]

You could put pepperoni on pizza.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Say that until you bite into it. Don't. Don't knock it.

[Andrew Schulz]

It might be great. But we don't lead with the pizza with stuff on it. You lead just with the brand of pizza.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You've done that. So you've had the basics. But what about when you get that oxtail slice, that lobster and shrimp Alfredo?

[Andrew Schulz]

Nice.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What are we doing? Wow. Wow. This is ridiculous. You ever been to cut some slices?

[Donnell Rawlings]

Yeah, I have.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You didn't like it?

[Donnell Rawlings]

No, I like it.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm sure it's great. Shout out. Cuts and slices. I'm sure it's great. But even they're looking at this like, oh, Charlotte, you got to lead with the plain slice. You got to tell us why that's great, because that's what defines you as New York.

[Taylor]

What's your favorite piece?

[Andrew Schulz]

Now we going by slice? Are we going by pie?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, that's a good point.

[Andrew Schulz]

Because if we're going by pie, I mean, obviously Joe's is phenomenal. If we're going by pie, there's a great spot over here. Ruby Rosa is phenomenal over here.

[Donnell Rawlings]

Princess.

[Andrew Schulz]

Princess is great.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's on it?

[Andrew Schulz]

Pepperoni.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ah, bro. Lobster and shrimp Alfredo. Let's just have a pasta, salmon, chili. You said you had chili.

[Taylor]

You have.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

From. What are we talking about? What did you have?

[Andrew Schulz]

Salmon on fucking pizza.

[Donnell Rawlings]

Barbecue chicken or something like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was it not fire?

[Donnell Rawlings]

It was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, Cadence. Yeah, but you don't. Why do New Yorkers want to be basic their whole life?

[Andrew Schulz]

This is what it's like when white people talk about rap. Now I get it. Yeah, I get it. I get it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's like vanilla ice cream.

[Andrew Schulz]

I understand it. Yes, yes.

[Taylor]

But no sprinkles.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is crazy. This is so crazy. Why do you want everything so plain?

[Andrew Schulz]

You would get a vanilla ice cream. You put some whipped cream, you put a little sea salt, and then you put a little pizza on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's a lot. That's a lot. Can I put.

[Andrew Schulz]

Can I put you guys on game?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's a lot. You name Four Seasons.

[Andrew Schulz]

Can I share the finer things in life or can I Not you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Salt.

[Andrew Schulz]

Babe. Bro, I am here to share information with the world.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You just gave us an Italian ice cream. You put Four Seasons on ice cream, bro. You put. You put a hotel on the ice cream.

[Andrew Schulz]

Cafe Pana. You go to Cafe Pana, you get the cookies and Pana. That's the best ice cream in New York City right there. You get the cookies and pan. You don't need anything else on it. Cafe Pana Cookies and Pan is the best ice cream in New York City. That is the best. That's it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's just cookies and cream.

[Andrew Schulz]

But it's cookies and pana. All their other ice creams, phenomenal. But if you want to get the fire one, you get vanilla with the whipped cream, a little bit of olive oil on it. They might even put a little sea salt. It will knock your socks off. And it doesn't need fucking lobster, Mac and cheese, and salmon or whatever.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shout out to Cuts and Slices in New York City, baby. Shout out to Slimmin Husky in Nashville. And shout out to Pizza Hut.

[Andrew Schulz]

Ooh.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Best pizza on the planet, right? Best places for pizza on the planet. Now you. Now you don't like Pizza Hut.

[Donnell Rawlings]

Best breadsticks, I'll give you that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Pizza Hut, right? Fire breadsticks.

[Andrew Schulz]

By the way, Domino's is way better.

[Donnell Rawlings]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Andrew Schulz]

Domino's, Domino's. Thin crust is. It is an elite.

[Taylor]

No, but the breadsticks at pizza is.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, but we're not talking about the. Guys, guys, guys, guys. I'm gonna. I'm gonna blow my head off here. Are we talking about pizza? Are we talking about breadsticks? These are different things.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If you blow your head off, can we use it for the sauce? Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

I hate them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just hate him. Little brain lovers pizza.

[Andrew Schulz]

He saved it. I saved it. He saved it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Salute to Drew Ski.

[Andrew Schulz]

Drew Ski.

[J. Cole]

Drew.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You got everybody up in arms and didn't even say shit. Let me tell you why Drew Ski is such a good guy at what he does. Drew Ski don't even gotta say shit.

[Andrew Schulz]

Nothing. Nothing.

[Taylor]

Videos of him, like, responding, though.

[Andrew Schulz]

But they were AI, I thought, I

[Charlamagne Tha God]

don't like that shit. Yo, we gotta do something about that. I'm not even gonna lie. All the AI tweets, the AI videos, them shit be having me going, yo.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, I'm getting caught.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yo, left and right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, it's bad, bro. It's bad. Like, this is getting too good too fast, bro. No, like. Like, no, I don't like that at all. Because I thought Drew Ski's, by the way. And when I saw you, too, I'm like, this don't. The only reason I was like, this is not Drew Ski. Is because Drew Ski don't talk this much. Yeah. When he did the whole thing where he was like, Erica Kirk suing me in the fitness, I'm like, this can't be. I'm like, there's no way. Drew don't even talk like this.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And he don't talk this much.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then I. When I saw Erica Kirk's alleged tweet, because she never really responded either, right?

[Donnell Rawlings]

No, I don't think so.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When I saw her alleged tweet, I said to myself, why would you claim this? I mean, why would you say this is you?

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't know if you. I don't know if you can't claim it, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know, bro.

[Andrew Schulz]

The sparklers and then the staring into the camera.

[Taylor]

You guys been watching.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I saw three other conservative women that Drew Ski could have been imitating, but I didn't find out about them until after this sketch. And then people started sending me videos of these women speaking at CPAC and stuff like that. They are way more this sketch than Erica Kirk. Okay.

[Donnell Rawlings]

But he did name it conservative women.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. But I think what's so this to me, like, what's fun about this is that I like when comedy riles shit up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Of course.

[Andrew Schulz]

I like when there's something that's put out with the intention of laughter and if people take it seriously, get all angry about it. And I haven't seen comedy. Comedy do that in a minute. There are people who make like political statements that rile people up, but they're not really funny. A pure comedy sketch got the Internet going crazy. How long has it been?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What, 10 days? When did it come out? Last week.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no, I mean, how long has it been since you've seen it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Since I've seen. Oh, since I've seen somebody rob people up with comedy sketch.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's when the comedy sketch or even a stand up bit, I think, since.

[Donnell Rawlings]

Oh, really?

[Andrew Schulz]

What does Chappelle do?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Chappelle's are political, though. They're more. They're social.

[Andrew Schulz]

But like, what did he do? Like he just said Israel or something. Like.

[Donnell Rawlings]

But some people found it funny. Some people were.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think it was. I think it was a. This is like, this is silly the whole time and trying to make people laugh the whole time. It wasn't like, here is a political statement that, you know, a large swath of the Internet agrees with and then there's a part of the Internet that doesn't agree with it. Right. This is just. I'm going to be silly and People are angry at silly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If I was Eric and Craig, I'd be offended at all the conservatives.

[Andrew Schulz]

Why? What are they saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all think I look like this? This man did not say anything. That man did not say my name. Okay, this is how y' all think I look. This is how y' all think I act. Y' all coming to my defense, saying how fucked up it is that he's doing this to a widow. Why the fuck y' all think this is me?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, that's funny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? I'm getting on Ozempic immediately for Erica Kirk. Like. And by the way, I promise you, when I saw the other two videos. Who are the other women, Chris? And there's another woman I saw acting just like Drew Ski, bro. And she's a conservative woman, same size, build and everything.

[Donnell Rawlings]

Margie Taylor.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There she go. What's her name? Kat Kamac. Kimberly.

[Andrew Schulz]

This gotta be AI, Bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I never heard of this woman. I thought this was Drew Ski, bro.

[Donnell Rawlings]

Oh, wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And she's talking at. What is this? What is the yr? What is.

[Andrew Schulz]

Young Republicans.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Young Republicans. Kat Kamac.

[Andrew Schulz]

She's barefoot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's who I think Drewski saw, bruh. They said, that's who I think Drew Ski saw, Bruh. And it's another one that's real. What'd you say, Chris?

[Chris]

I did double check. That's real.

[Andrew Schulz]

How do you know if it's real?

[Chris]

I found it through legitimate sources.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, it's not her. That's the girl that said demure. It's another one. I promise you. It's another lady that I saw that wasn't the cat lady. And I'm like, that's who Drewski saw. Drewski saw a couple of them now. He might have saw the Erica speech.

[Andrew Schulz]

Isn't it fun to have the Internet riled up off comedy again and not off of some fucking political agenda or political opinions?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I love it.

[Andrew Schulz]

This is the place that we should be operating in.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But this is technically a political opinion.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, it's not. Well, I guess it is. Conservative women be acting. But he's not talking about their opinions that they have. He's just saying what they look like and how they behave.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And you can't say that he's wrong. When you look at the video of the chick cat, right.

[Andrew Schulz]

You could say whatever you want, but now you're getting angry at comedy. Like when people get angry at comedy or angry at any form of art.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's just kind of silly, right? Because it's like, you're like being angry at a painting.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen, I told me, like, what are

[Andrew Schulz]

we doing over here? He's like, clearly not being serious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I told y' all last year, and everybody got. I'm not going to say everybody. I hate when. I don't know why I got to stop doing these broad generalizations, but there were some people who got mad at me when I just said, I think Drew Ski. His debate is one of the. Is the best sketch actor since Chappelle.

[Donnell Rawlings]

You had said all the time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't say all the time. Shut up. You did.

[Donnell Rawlings]

You did.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's why people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I did not say better than Key and Peele.

[Donnell Rawlings]

You did say better than Key and

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Peele, but I didn't say all time. I think Chappelle and the Living Color are the best all time.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think. I think what he does isn't sketch, and I think that's where it gets. He does character acting and, like, impressions, and, like, that's like a sketch has, like, a framework. There's a beginning, a middle, and an end. And in this, it's like a conglomeration of the Internet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. You know, he's. Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

He's satirizing a cultural trend.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And it is more, like you said, it's character. Donnell said that to me. Donnell was like, what he does isn't necessarily sketch. It's character acting.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And character acting, man, he's phenomenal.

[Andrew Schulz]

Who else is doing it? And the Internet reacting like this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And the way he captures. Like, whenever Drew Ski decides to do one of these, he captures it perfectly. Whether it's nascar, whether it's football, whether it's pastors. Pastors. Whether it's the white boy who grew up around the black dudes in the hood. Cause you can always, like, when I see the white boy that grew up in the hood, I'm like, oh, that's Belly Gang. Cushington.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When you meet Belly Gang, you like, oh, this is who Drew Ski was in the beat. Like, there's always somebody. You can look at this sketch and point to three different people who you think Drew Ski's pretending to be interesting. When he did the passive catch, he was like, oh, that's. Oh, that's. That was supposed to be Mike Todd. Like, even though I don't know if that was supposed to be Mike Todd.

[Andrew Schulz]

But that's what people start saying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's how you know you're good. When people can actually point to folks and be like, oh, this is who he pretended to be. Yeah. The only. I mean, listen, Drewth you're doing a phenomenal job. I think that it is character work

[Andrew Schulz]

to what you're saying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It is character work. I mean, man, can you imagine if he had like actual writers and then

[Andrew Schulz]

you're saying, put it into like a scripted sketch format.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can you?

[Andrew Schulz]

I actually don't know if I think, like, part of the benefit of this is that it's made for the Internet attention span, which is just like, here's a new character. Here's another thing, here's another thing. Here's another thing. Instead of, hey, here's a two minute story arc where some people are going to go, I'm going to tap out because I just want you to give me the juice immediately, give me the protein. Protein, protein.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It makes sense especially for this one, right? Like, look at this. The white boy in the hood.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, I saw.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This one's great because he's on live. So it's not like it'll be a story going on on live. You know what I'm saying?

[Donnell Rawlings]

It just, I'm confused though. Why don't you consider this sketch? Because it is sketch. He's scripting. Like, he's saying scripted, planned out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought it was sketch until actual sketch. People told me it wasn't.

[Chris]

These are more like vignettes strung together.

[Andrew Schulz]

So like again, we're like, what is it called splitting hairs here? But like, the idea with the sketch is that it's usually like premise executed, misdirect. So it's like, here's the premise, here's the. It's that great example is the key and Peele sketch. It's like, guy goes in and he's going to talk to a doctor. The doctor's like, I'm sorry, I have to deliver some bad news. It's your mom has like three months to live and the guy goes, well, your mom was so fat. That's sketch, right? It's just like this character doesn't realize that he's giving a medical diagnosis. He's actually doing. He thinks it's a Yo Mama, this thing. And then there's some kind of misdirect.

[Donnell Rawlings]

So what about like the Chappelle and the R. Kelly P. Stuff?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, that's a big sketch.

[Donnell Rawlings]

Like, that's just super Sketch Harry song.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, what I would. The argument I would make is that the things. The argument I would make is that the things from Chappelle's show that were the biggest were character work, not sketches. Like, oh yeah, like people remember I'm Rich. They don't remember what this I don't even remember the storyline of that. This is what humans connect to. Right. We love impressions, we love character work. If you even think about snl, what are the things you really remember? Do you remember the arc of the sketch?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Eddie Murphy, Buckwheat?

[Andrew Schulz]

You just remember the character and them living in that character. That's what tends to work. Now if you do sketch, it's because you love sketch and you want to write this tiny little story arc that kind of buttons up at the end, but you're doing it for yourself, you know? And this type of content couldn't exist on TV back in the day because you couldn't pitch an executive. No, no. I'm going to do a bunch of little vignettes of character work and it's going to take 30 minutes. They'd be like, well, what story are you telling? Or what is the ride we're going on? But for the Internet, this is perfect because this is actually the parts of the sketch that resonate the most with us.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Drew Ski is one of the greatest success stories the Internet has ever produced.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Facts. Straight up facts.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's one of the greatest stories the Internet has ever produced. And the reason I really salute Drewski is because he clearly invests in himself. Cause he don't have to do this shit to this level for vignettes. You know what I'm saying? He could be like other people who just do the bare minimum. Like he literally does full fledged productions for these sketches and it pays off. Like, it may not even pay off, you know, monetization wise on social media. But man, think about all the endorsements and everything that he gets.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think what it is, is like it keeps the base engaged. You can never say, oh, he went Hollywood.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what I mean? You can never say, oh, he left us. Like, this is him delivering content to his people online.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

When he really doesn't have to.

[Chris]

And I think risks.

[Andrew Schulz]

Say again, like, this could stop him from getting a T Mobile ad. This could stop him from getting a movie. This could stop him from getting.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really? Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes.

[Taylor]

Why?

[Andrew Schulz]

Because conservatives got phones too.

[Donnell Rawlings]

Yep.

[Andrew Schulz]

And T Mobile. And T Mobile's gonna go. Well, am I gonna deal with this lobby saying, we're not gonna, we're not gonna, you know, buy your phones, we're gonna cancel your service. It's just a potential headache. But people like that. People like when they see artists that have something to lose continue to make their art.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'll say this, I haven't seen a conservative woman actually Be mad at the sketch. I've seen conservative women be mad about what people are telling them. The sketch is about. If. If they say, hey, this sketch is about Erica Kirk, I see people reacting to that. But when you actually watch the sketch, if you're a conservative woman, whatever the fuck that means. If you're a conservative woman and you watch the sketch, are you really upset about this?

[Andrew Schulz]

Some.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When you actually see how these conservative

[Andrew Schulz]

women act, the question is, like, if people get upset at comedy, like, they're allowed to get upset at comedy. That's the other thing. You can't tell people not to get upset about shit. If they want to get upset about, they can. It's America. You're free to react however you want. But it doesn't mean that he shouldn't be allowed to make comedy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I agree.

[Andrew Schulz]

So, like. But we also can't tell people to not be upset at things. Like, there's a million things you've said and I've said that just upset people. We never said. Right? We never said nothing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is the most wholesome podcast on the Internet for the last 13 years. You're right.

[Andrew Schulz]

You're right, you're right, you're right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't say anything to upset any fucking body. Are you.

[Donnell Rawlings]

You just upset people with that gaslighting you just did right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What gaslighting did I just do? Who gaslights? I don't even know what the fuck gaslighting means. For real.

[Andrew Schulz]

Me too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. Gaslighting to me, is that sound that comes on before Shook wants.

[Andrew Schulz]

Okay, what's that sound?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

One of the greatest intros ever in hip hop motherfucking history. Did you go to the airport? I went to the airport this weekend.

[Andrew Schulz]

How was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was fine.

[Taylor]

I think they're exaggerated.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm wearing a couple.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not gonna say that. Our boy Miles.

[Andrew Schulz]

Our boy Miles couldn't say that.

[Taylor]

First week people were being dramatic because now it doesn't seem like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'll tell you this. I went to the airport on Friday and, you know, they was like. It was like, oh, you need to get here early. Not gonna be able. Not sure if you can be able to use the greeters. Blah, blah, blah, all of that typ and stuff like that. They let me use the greeters and dare I say, ice was very nice. Dare I say these cannot be the same people that were in the streets raising holy hell. In fact, I would bet. Okay, not money, but something else. Mouth, maybe Mouth that these are not the same people that was in the streets. Remember last week When I said it, I said, these are either people. Young kids who were working at temp services are older people who were retired and just wanted something to do. You know how sometimes the older person would get a job at a cash

[Andrew Schulz]

flow Walmart or some shit?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. There's no way that those people that were in the airports were the same people that were in the street with masks on. Bro. There's no way. It's infucking possible.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't see how. When I tell you that they were actually nice inch below Chick Fil A workers. Wow.

[Andrew Schulz]

But you got the green.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They know you're saying, but I wasn't. I was. I. I'm glad you said that. I wasn't paying attention to how they was treating me. I paid attention how they treating everybody else.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, there's cameras everywhere.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's cameras everywhere. Everywhere. Everywhere.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. But you don't know for sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, man. And without. Huh?

[Taylor]

They were helping the TSA.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They did every. When I flew out Friday from LaGuardia, they did everything TSA workers weren't. And that was the day they said. I think they said 3,500 TSA workers decided to stay home. They did everything. Really? Everything.

[Andrew Schulz]

They ran the everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Running the line, scanning our tickets in, putting our stuff in the bins. Everything. And I'm telling you, it's a psyop. It's a psyop. And guess what? President Trump told us it was a psyop. He literally said in a post on truth social media that. And I'm paraphrasing here, but he said this is like image rebrand for ice. He said it. Look it up. He said it on a post.

[Andrew Schulz]

He wants them to ingratiate themselves to the people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen, if I put you in the airports and I put these people in the airports and call them ice, and they're actually nice and they're helpful and the airport is running efficient and they're getting the lines moving fast. People go around. People leave and say, damn. I was expecting a whole different experience from ice. ICE was actually nice. So then when the midterms come around, okay. And we're sending ICE to the polling

[Andrew Schulz]

places, like all those nice guys that

[Charlamagne Tha God]

help you a lot won't be that bad. Next thing you know is the few guys with the mask on.

[Andrew Schulz]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Slamming you to the ground again. Oh, it's a psyop. I know it's a psyop. He literally said, you found a post.

[Andrew Schulz]

What is a psyop?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Psychological operation.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, I know. What. Thanks but what is it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's exactly what turned Bruce into Caitlyn. He didn't know. He didn't know. Why are you acting like you don't know what this is, bro? Why are you acting like you don't know what this is? Hold on.

[Donnell Rawlings]

But then where do you think they got all the nice ones from?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What do you mean? They fired them all during those. People need a job. Hold on.

[Andrew Schulz]

People need.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's that hard to find people? You think it's hard to find people to just put in an airport for a couple years?

[Andrew Schulz]

People do need people.

[Donnell Rawlings]

Is a lot of people that they.

[Andrew Schulz]

But people do need. People do need work right now. The idea that they're handing out bonuses and they're giving out jobs, that was Mike's point.

[Donnell Rawlings]

You know what I mean? Wouldn't we hear that like, yo, get hired to go to the airport right now? I don't know.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm not exactly sure. What are you looking up, though?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm trying to find the. Yeah, I'm trying to find it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Stop acting like you don't follow them. Just go to your followers. Go to your DMs. Go to your DMs.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, here it goes. I am so proud of our ICE Patriots. They were unfairly maligned by the lunatic Democrats for years. And now at the airports, in addition to what they are supposed to be doing, they are helping with bags and even picking up and cleaning areas. They are so proud to be there. The fact is they shouldn't have to do this, but they are rehabbing a fake image given to them by radical left Democrat politicians. The public is loving ice, so the Democrats unwittingly did us a favor. They are great American patriots. They just happen to have much larger and harder muscles than most, which is what they're supposed to have. Thank you to ICE for the great job you are doing. Very much appreciated. President Donald J. Wow. Hey, man.

[Andrew Schulz]

Hey, man. Hey, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just telling you what I saw Friday and it makes perfect sense. This is all a psychological operation for the midterms. This is not the same ICE that was on the street. I said it last week on the podcast. I'm sure of it after experiencing it for myself. And they were saying, what's up? They wanted to take pictures. Everything.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm telling you, I know what's happening.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just telling you, this is not the same people.

[Andrew Schulz]

So trying to get ahead of a picture, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What you mean?

[Andrew Schulz]

Charlotte got a picture with 14 ICE agents and he's just like,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

More than 14 of them, my boys. It wasn't 14. Me and the guys there wasn't 14. It was just one. But the point is, I'm not the only person that felt like this. And it's on purpose. He told us in the Truth Social post. It's on purpose. They're doing psychological operations, midterms. So when they put them out there for the midterms, nobody's gonna think twice. Then you get turned away by a masked agent telling you, get the out of here. Okay, what do I need to vote?

[Donnell Rawlings]

You're already registered.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shit. Everything that. No, you might have to re register.

[Chris]

The SAVE ACT passes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Chris]

Passport to vote. Yeah.

[Donnell Rawlings]

No, but I don't think you have to re register.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, you do. That's part of the SAVE Act. That's one thing in the SAVE act is you have to re register. You're not sure about that 100%. That's one of the problems. That's one of the issues. You have to have to re register all together. This shit is crazy, man. I don't even like carrying my passport. I don't like carrying my passport through the airport. But I, you know the real ID

[Andrew Schulz]

shit, I'm not going to get that real ID shit, bro.

[Donnell Rawlings]

You have to.

[Andrew Schulz]

I just carry my passport.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't like doing that.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't like it either. And I forget every time. And I got paid $40.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, they make you just pay now?

[Andrew Schulz]

You got to pay $40. You forget it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I know that. Yeah, yeah. But you got clear and all that.

[Andrew Schulz]

I got clear. But when they don't have clear at the airport or it's not accessible, then you got to pay.

[Taylor]

We say even with the passport.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, I didn't bring my passport. I always forget it because I agree with you. It's like that's the one document I don't want to be traveling with.

[Taylor]

I thought they're going to take. They're going to get rid of that too, though.

[Andrew Schulz]

I thought eventually, probably. What is this? What's. What makes the real ID more real?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I have no.

[Taylor]

So dumb. Because you could get into government buildings. That's right.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't need to go to a government building. I need to go JFK, LaGuardia.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's a government building. What else we got? Taylor Gang. Taylor Gang. Gang.

[Taylor]

I don't know. Maybe Chris knows her.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What are you. Why did you pull this up, Taylor? Why you do this to Chris? Taylor Gang.

[Taylor]

Because it's trending.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You want Chris to get bricked up? Miss Grand Thailand contestant Dara Thorne U Thong goes viral for her dancing moves and shaking her clappers during the swimsuit portion of the competition. What does this have to do with anything?

[Taylor]

It's trending, that's what s. A. I.

[Andrew Schulz]

Right?

[Taylor]

Oh, but you didn't see this.

[Andrew Schulz]

What's this one?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How many times you jerked off to this, Chris? Whoa, wait.

[Andrew Schulz]

Is this. Is this trans. What is this?

[Taylor]

No,

[J. Cole]

I know.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, yeah, Thailand, you gotta know before you let your brain go there. What you mean, you gotta know? Is she lady boy? Damn. Nah, that's lady boy, dude. That's lady boy. Sorry. I mean, that's lady boy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Even if it is. I mean, if it's. If it looks cool, like, you can't acknowledge that it looks cool and keep

[Donnell Rawlings]

it moving until she flexed her breast,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

man, you ain't got to get bricked up. You know what I'm saying? I don't even know if this is a lady boy.

[Taylor]

I'm gonna say. Who say? I mean, I can't, but I'm just saying good work.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If it is, right? Y' all women need to go to Thailand to get y' all done. If that's what they doing in Thailand, this is what y' all need to go get done, yo. Cause y' all BBL still be looking crazy.

[Andrew Schulz]

They haven't figured out the BBL yet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, it's too many bees.

[Taylor]

They're not gonna do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't need two Bs and one L. You need at least a lot of them are. You need a B and L, Huh?

[Andrew Schulz]

It's still great. What is this? She had too much energy, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think that's a woman, by the way.

[Donnell Rawlings]

No, it's definitely not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How do you figure? This is not. Nobody's saying it. I'm even looking at the comments. Nobody's saying this is the guy.

[Andrew Schulz]

Look at the jump.

[Donnell Rawlings]

You didn't see her flex her breast. When have you ever seen a woman.

[Taylor]

A woman can't listen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, if you got your. If you got your breast.

[Andrew Schulz]

Look, look. Here we go right here. You're about to do it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You can get your breast on top of the muscle, bro.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, hold on. Look at, look at, look at, look at it.

[Donnell Rawlings]

It's all the way there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Whoa.

[Andrew Schulz]

From the side, it's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just letting y' all know. If this is a lady boy, we're gay. We've watched this for 35 seconds.

[J. Cole]

Look, look.

[Taylor]

I don't think she's. She.

[Andrew Schulz]

Hold on, Taylor. You could do that.

[Taylor]

I said I can't do it. But I don't know, muscles, but I don't think that she. Relax. I don't think that she's like doing it. How y' all be doing it though? I feel like she's just pumping her.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, she's just flexing her peck.

[Taylor]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She's got the breast over the. She's got her breast done over the muscle.

[Andrew Schulz]

Chris had his tongue out. Chris.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was crazy, that song.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yo, Chris, what were you looking up?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I seen it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yo, Chris, you know Chris, what is happening over there, man?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's just art, bro. Some other dope art I saw this week. Yeah, Cardi fucking B.

[Andrew Schulz]

What Cardi do?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I went to go see Cardi last week at MSG. MSG legend Madison Square Garden sold our show. She did two sold out shows at MetLife, not MetLife Stadium, Madison Square Garden. And Cardi has Cardi's. I think she said she sold out every show except for some date in Canada. And Taylor got this video of me looking and she kept asking me if I was high. I wasn't high. I was actually watching this show and observing. I was in awe. Number one. Cause it was a fantastic, phenomenal show. I mean, huge production, right like that captured everything you love about Cardi B. Everything she's learned in the strip clubs, everything she's learned just being funny in the streets of the Bronx, right? Being a phenomenal performer. Cause she's been on these stages for the last decade. Like it just captured everything. But I was in awe just looking at the fact that, man, this is Cardi B who used to be on Instagram 11 fucking years. Look at me, 11 years ago. Because I'm intrigued. I'm like, yo, that's fucking Barty, yo. Yup, that's Barty from fucking Instagram who we all watch grow to be this motherfucking megastar. You know how many people I saw used to front on Cardi B back in the day.

[Andrew Schulz]

Still to this day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know how many people used to tell me, oh, Charlamagne, you trolling, always reposting. Cardi B playing Cardi B. You're trolling, playing this cheap ass weave shit. I remember when Nicki Minaj somebody said Nicki Minaj should do a song with Cardi B. And she retweeted Cardi B and put LMAO with mad O's and shit. Now she's selling out Madison Square. Fuck twice, Garden twice, bro. I was in awe. I'm not going front. I was sitting there like, man, that is what dreams are made.

[Andrew Schulz]

Also when was the last time she dropped an album?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Even last year.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, so this. She's touring the first album and then this out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Last year was her second year. I mean, her second album in what, seven, eight years? Some like that.

[Andrew Schulz]

But here's the point I'm trying to make is like, to have that type of connectivity to your fans and you've given them two bodies.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Social media.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, that's a compliment. I'm trying. Like, that's a pretty amazing thing to do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But the other thing Cardi was doing throughout that process was features and dropping singles.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, she was staying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really. Never gave you an album. But she would drop features and she would drop singles, and all them rang off in the garden that you like. Press, press, press, press, press, press. Cardi don't need more press. Ring it off in the garden. Features like tomorrow from Glorilla. Ringing off in the garden. You like, God damn. The Bruno Mars. But she got a whole. She got a whole part where she don't do nothing but Spanish.

[Andrew Schulz]

Really?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And they bring a taco out and there's a big taco on stage. That wasn't. That was a taco, right?

[Andrew Schulz]

No, they don't have tacos in Caribbean culture, bro.

[Taylor]

I feel like I have.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That wasn't the taco.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, I mean, I wasn't there, but, like, I don't think tacos.

[Taylor]

Oh, I know you're talking about. It looks like a taco.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That looked like a taco, right?

[Andrew Schulz]

What is it?

[Taylor]

Hold on, I'm about to show you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Maybe it was just a bridge. It looked like a taco. But they bought it out and everything just goes straight Spanish for like 10 minutes. So, like, I like it like that.

[Andrew Schulz]

I like it like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, hell yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She's playing just some. She got this whole, you know, video montage of all of this salsa and everybody just dancing like. This is really dope, man. Just to see Cardi at that level.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, fire.

[Andrew Schulz]

Good for her.

[Donnell Rawlings]

Impressive. She, like, just had a kid in November.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did just have a kid in November. She got all. She brings her kids out on stage. Well, she bought them out on stage for the Garden. I don't know. She does that every show. But she bought two of her kids out on stage. Oh, they just like. Yeah. Is that not a taco look?

[Taylor]

Yeah, thank you. I didn't realize.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is that not a taco?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, it's a taco.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, that's a fucking taco taco, dude.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's totally a taco.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Or half a bagel.

[Andrew Schulz]

You would. You fucking would.

[Taylor]

I mean, did she buy a bodega

[Chris]

baddie right before half an everything bagel, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, bodega baddie. Yes, he did. Bodega baddie. I like it like that. She did a couple of, I guess, what do you call it, Latin records. Cardi is another one, man, that she's just proof. If you are just your true authentic self, the universe will give you exactly what you're supposed to get. Yeah. But you've got to be your true authentic self and nothing else. Like literally nothing else. You just got to be who you are at all times and the universe will reward you. And she's never in a rush. Two albums in eight years, nine years. Give you a single when she feel like it. Can you imagine trusting the timing of the game that much? Especially in this era that tells you you gotta constantly.

[Andrew Schulz]

Every second.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, I think that she has the. This is not. She has the luxury of being an incredibly engaging personality no matter how she communicates. So if she puts out music, it's gonna be hot. She has a music video, people are gonna wanna watch it. If she's on Twitter, they're gonna read it like she is a gravitational force. And not everybody has that. Some people can only put out the music, so they probably need to do that a little bit more often.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Every. You can't. I was telling somebody this last week when they were talking about. Because you know, Cardi's gonna be teaching at Howard. We're not teaching at Howard University, but they're doing courses at Howard University based off Cardi B's success. You can't teach that, though.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Be a star. Yeah, you can't teach that. No, like, you just.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You can't. Some people, it's in some people, not on them. There's. There's. You can tell a person every single thing Cardi did and it will not work for them. It just won't. Like. It absolutely won't.

[Andrew Schulz]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

What is women wrestling move Taylor?

[Taylor]

This. I forgot her name, but she wrestled

[Charlamagne Tha God]

a news reporter. Oh, yeah. Fox News journalist Abby Hornetsek gets suplexed on live TV by wrestling champion Kennedy Blades. I don't know why people are making a big deal about this. She agreed to do.

[Taylor]

This is how she got it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Agreed to do it.

[Andrew Schulz]

She landed on her head, bro. That's.

[Donnell Rawlings]

She like turned right.

[Andrew Schulz]

She did.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She agreed to get suplex.

[Andrew Schulz]

But it's still cool to see.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, you can't just be letting people do that.

[Andrew Schulz]

Great.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Here's the thing. If I was Abby, I need to like, I need to see how often you watch other networks.

[Andrew Schulz]

Explain that to me, because what if

[Charlamagne Tha God]

you're a person that watches CNN all the time. Ms. Now. All the time. Right. And then you get the opportunity to slam a Fox News host. Oh, I see what you're saying.

[Andrew Schulz]

What I'm saying

[Charlamagne Tha God]

that's one of those times where I might need to see where you lean politically.

[Andrew Schulz]

She was taking out some frustrations.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You see what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. I can't just let you some of this biased coverage.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I mean? Cause somebody goes to this young black girl and they're like, I think she's black. I'm assuming she's black. And they're like, look, you want to be on Fox News, she probably like, no, absolutely not.

[Andrew Schulz]

You want a body slam of Fox

[Charlamagne Tha God]

News, get the body slam of Fox News anchor.

[Donnell Rawlings]

Really?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? Watch this. This don't even make no sense, bro. Bung. Yeah.

[Donnell Rawlings]

Juggling like a champ too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And it's on a soft. Acting like that was on the floor, bro. That's like a cushion. That's the soft mat.

[Taylor]

If he. If he might have to stretch afterwards.

[Andrew Schulz]

That hurts, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We used to have to do like that for MTV too.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like what?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Remember when we had the. Remember it was the women. The women lingerie. Remember MTV used to do the women lingerie league. Women football. It was women's football, but they used to wear lingerie. Yeah. And we had to do this whole segment, one time where we had to let the women tackle us.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't remember that. Yeah, man, I wasn't invited to that one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, one of the women spared the shit out of me. Like, it was like a spear, like. And I tried not to move, but she hit something in my abdomen the right way. Shit made me shift a little bit, bro.

[Andrew Schulz]

Really?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, man.

[Andrew Schulz]

I remember I did a wrestling thing with Chrissy dude. Like, we went to, like, an indie wrestling spot in. In New Jersey, and they, like, taught us how to do this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, mtv, too.

[Andrew Schulz]

That is you the pizza guy. And shout out, my boy, Luigi Primo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What happened?

[Donnell Rawlings]

Yeah, you see that wrestler? It's a wrestler. He, like, comes in with a pizza dough and stuff.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, he looks exactly like Andrew in the wwe.

[Andrew Schulz]

Nah, he's on the indie scene, but, like, he uses the pizza in the thing. It's like he uses the dough as, like, part of his moves and shit. It's great.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I bet you that shit trash his pizza. For real, by the way.

[Andrew Schulz]

You don't know good pizza, by the way.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't know, by the way, if you're using the same dough that you use in the wrestling ring. That's so disgusting, bro.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, it's not real dough.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, it's not.

[Donnell Rawlings]

He doesn't actually make pizza.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who the would be scared of the pizza man anyway? Yo, how do you come in the ring and pretend to be the one

[Andrew Schulz]

day we're going to understand Charlotte's imagination and how it works today. It's not that day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just saying, man, you got to be intimidating if you're a wrestler. Like, you know, the ultimate Warrior. Well, don't Cold Steve Austin was a raging lunatic who came in the ring drinking.

[Andrew Schulz]

Depends what your character is. You could also be a comedic character

[Charlamagne Tha God]

who's scared of the pizza man. By the way, nobody's ever scared of the comedic characters. Comedic characters never become world champions.

[Andrew Schulz]

Who's scared of Ric Flair?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ooh, the nature boy. What are you talking about?

[Andrew Schulz]

He's coming out in, like, fur and, like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

Tassels.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. But he can fight. Nature boy could kick your ass. That's the difference. The pizza man ain't kicking nobody's ass.

[Andrew Schulz]

This pizza man can. No, no, no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Pull it up.

[Andrew Schulz]

Get up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Luigi Primo. I don't believe it. Never heard of him. Luigi never heard of the guy. Never heard of him. What else? What else we got, Taylor? While we're searching for Luigi Primo, did

[Taylor]

y' all see the other Asian?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We haven't even seen the first Asian yet.

[Andrew Schulz]

Taylor, Taylor, Taylor. One of these days, Taylor, tell you, one of these days, we're gonna really understand.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, the woman from Miss Thailand was Asian?

[Taylor]

Yes, she was Asian.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Taylor]

Okay, so.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So who's the other Asian? Yo, Chris, why she been shooting at you the past couple?

[Andrew Schulz]

Look at my boy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, get the out.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, you like it now? You liking it now?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He throws the pizza, though.

[Andrew Schulz]

He punches the pizza into. Watch.

[Taylor]

Boom.

[Donnell Rawlings]

Knockout. Yeah. Fire.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yo, just admit your role. We can all admit our own.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That shit was all right. What you mean?

[Andrew Schulz]

That's the most.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was real.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's the biggest compliment you're gonna get if you're white. From Charlotte. Charlotte. Who you hating on this week? I didn't know who the hate's going to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not hating on nobody.

[Andrew Schulz]

There's got to be somebody that's doing too well.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't think I'm hating on anybody this week. I don't. I'm never really hating.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, I know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just having conversations.

[Andrew Schulz]

Okay. Who you having conversations about how they're overrated this week?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't think anybody's overrated. You know, I've been. I've been enjoying J. Cole's press run.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, tell me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I. I really appreciated the interview that cat. I liked, I liked the cam interview. I like, I liked all the interviews. I watched them, but the only thing I kept thinking to myself was, what does J. Cole actually believe in? Ooh.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, what was he talking about that made you feel that? I, I, I don't. I haven't watched any of the interviews, so.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Play. Play this, Taylor.

[J. Cole]

But you said something in the beginning how, like, on songs, like, how I say I'm the best on songs, it's like, ask me in real life, do I think I'm the best rapper alive?

[Andrew Schulz]

Do you think you're the best rapper alive, bro?

[J. Cole]

It's a named black thought that exists. So it's a named Lupe fiasco that exists. No, it's that on any given day, even my peers, a Drake or a Kendrick, where it's like, yo, I know any given day, I could show up to the studio and get these 80, but I know they could show up on any day in the studio and give me 80, and I might only have 30.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

30.

[J. Cole]

So, like, so if I'm, if I'm taking on a rap Persona, like, when I'm rapping, of course, that's. That's what I like to. That's how I like to rap. And guess what? Sometimes I hit the mark and I say and I. I spit a verse that really might have. You believe in that? But if you ask me in real life, do I walk around like I'm the best rapper alive?

[Andrew Schulz]

No.

[J. Cole]

Like I'm the best ever? No. But when I put on that cape, like, that's how I try to attack. And have there been things and moments and verses where I'm writing this and I'm like, I know. Not with this. Absolutely. But in reality, do I. Do I. Do I walk around this earth like there's no better than me in real life, Like, I can't get in the studio with Black Thought, and he just give me 90. You know what I mean? And I'm sitting there like, I got 25 for you or any one of these amazing rappers. But I think people hear me say it because they don't know me for real.

[Andrew Schulz]

Right.

[J. Cole]

They hear me say it in a verse so much when I have on the cape sounds convincing like a mom, because I'm really doing that. That's gonna have a. Like, man.

[Andrew Schulz]

He think he.

[J. Cole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, you think.

[Taylor]

But don't rappers lie all the time?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Have you ever got on the stage and said, I'm the best sometime?

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no, no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Have you ever written a joke and said, you know what? No, this might be okay?

[Andrew Schulz]

I also think comedians just saying their best is gay. Like, I think it just. It's the different. It's just not a. It's just not cool to do. I think with rap, it's a different. There's like a bravado, there's an ego. There's these types of things. But he's. I just think being truly honest.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

And I think that a lot of times we don't want that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How can we say this is honest when he told us he's the greatest? Like Muhammad Ali on another record. Which is it?

[Taylor]

Rappers cry all the time when they're rap.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no. This is my difference between lies. This is my interpretation. He's having a truly honest conversation with people about a dishonest medium. Right. Like, when you're rapping, you are wearing the cape, and you are living up to that Persona, and you're living that life. Right. Like, Tupac is. Is I'm Doug life. I got it all the way. We're not talking about Tupac taking ballet classes. He's not talking about any of that. He's. I am Tupac, this character, and that's who I am. And I'm living it through and through different things. Sure, sure. It's different. I'm sure we can dissect it. My point is that, like, so this, like, I don't know, I thought it was, like a really vulnerable and honest moment. Do I think that there's other rappers out there? That some days I think they're better than me? Yeah. Do I think I'm really nice and sometimes I'll write a verse and I'm like, I'm nicer than everybody. Yeah. Which I think is probably. If most rappers were being truly honest with you, they would have that same feeling.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I doubt it.

[Andrew Schulz]

But you doubt it because they won't have that honest conversation. But to your point, does that honest conversation chip away at the brand? And if the brand is about being I'm the most macho, I'm the biggest guy, and I'm untouchable, then that's not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Kendrick Lamar said, he says, motherfuck the big three. It's just big me. And he went out there and proved it.

[Andrew Schulz]

But you don't think there's moments where Kendrick feels insecure? There's moments where. Interesting.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That man is always rapping like the rents do. At least on. At least in that booth, by the way. The booth is.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's what he's saying in the booth. I feel it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, he's Nathan. He actually said the opposite.

[Andrew Schulz]

He said at times when I put on the cape, that's what I feel.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't even need to wear a cape. Just wear tights. You know what I'm saying? Wear tights and go in there with some pizza dough if that's how you gonna feel. If you gonna just. There's no need for. It's no need.

[Andrew Schulz]

Ouija, Primo, you getting multiple shout outs. I'm just letting you know, you get

[Charlamagne Tha God]

multiple shout outs to put on the cape at all if you don't feel like you the best.

[Chris]

What about someone like Andre 3000, who's always been very introspective and vulnerable?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know the difference? Say it again, Alex.

[Donnell Rawlings]

He never says he's the best.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He never said he was the best. J. Cole told us for three years straight, I'm the best. Ain't nobody fucking with me. I'm Muhammad. He said he's Muhammad Ali. God damn. Now to tell us that you be feeling like Lil Mack from Mike Tyson's Punch Out.

[Donnell Rawlings]

When Jay Z says he's the best, I believe he believes he is the best.

[Andrew Schulz]

But that's what you guys want from your rappers. And there might be people who want vulnerability.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I want it from the rapper who Told me. This is what he told me. J. Cole. This is the thing that J. Cole does. He creates these narratives. He creates these narratives and then backs away from the narrative and then backs away from the narrative that he created.

[Andrew Schulz]

So what you don't like is the perceived flip flopping. What you don't like is he's going, hey, I don't know what his real name. What is his name?

[Taylor]

Jermaine.

[Andrew Schulz]

So I'm Jermaine. These are the emotions that I feel is Jermaine. And I feel like I'm incredibly skilled. And sometimes in the booth, I'm like, there's nobody better than me. And sometimes I'm like, damn, these guys are really good. They're better. Better than me. You want your rapper to be 10 toes down 100 of the time, the Persona that they are, and nothing more than that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

By the way, stando. I'm only. I'm only making you follow the rules that you created. If you want me to respect this mulatto, then you gotta stand 10. He said it. He said he want me to respect this mulatto. If you want me to respect this mulatto.

[Andrew Schulz]

When did he say that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, no, on the last. The falloff album. He said, you gonna respect this mulatto. Says it twice.

[Andrew Schulz]

Subconscious detecting.

[J. Cole]

These niggas think I'm lesser for my complexion. Before I'm done, they all gonna respect the mulatto. Yeah, I said, they all gonna respect the mulatto.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What song? Y' all don't listen to music. Y' all just skim through it.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Dan literally said, I don't respect this mulatto. If you want me to respect this mulatto.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's a wild line.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You gotta give me something to respect.

[Andrew Schulz]

You lost Charlotte and mulatto.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You lost me.

[Andrew Schulz]

Let me tell you something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You definitely lost me. You definitely love when you said that. I'm like, all right, we gotta keep an eye on this guy. We gotta keep an eye on this guy. He got another interview coming soon, too.

[Andrew Schulz]

With whom?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't. It's called Lost in Vegas. It might be out by the time we put this up. By the way, people act like I don't like J. Cole. I don't dislike J. Cole. I swear to God, I don't dislike J. Cole. J. Cole's from the Carolinas.

[Professor Jiang]

Come on, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And he can rap his ass off. But, man, this shit. These. These interviews have left me with more. Now, you want questions than answers.

[Andrew Schulz]

You want wrestling, bro. That's what you want. You want you want. You want Stone Cold?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I want. Cause here's the thing. I don't even know if this is real.

[Andrew Schulz]

So now you're starting to question everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's all I'm saying. I don't even know if this is real.

[Andrew Schulz]

Why would this. You're saying that you believe that he's saying these things because it's a more likable position.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So I think that whenever J. Cole experiences any type of backlash, he is the type of person that will say what he feels like everybody wants him to say in order to just feel that acceptance.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You understand what I'm saying? Like, that's what I think he does. That's my personal opinion.

[Taylor]

His next song is gonna be just all about Charlamagne.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, it's not. Listen, I like Cole. I really do. I've just got questions. Why can't I question things? Who's saying you can't do these interviews to be questioned. Why can't I question?

[Taylor]

Would you be mad if Kendrick spoke out? This is like, I did this rap because blah, blah, blah, blah. If I did what I did, this or this record.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, I didn't think about it.

[Taylor]

I just said it.

[Andrew Schulz]

I didn't think it all true.

[Taylor]

No. I said, if he came out with some interview with Apple and discussed his diss record with Drake, would you feel a type of way?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't want to see Kendrick do that with Drake. If Kendrick did any interviews. I already said I want to see Kendrick sit down with DJ Head, you know, ooh, Glasses Malone.

[Donnell Rawlings]

Cool.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If Kendrick did any interviews, I want him to do nothing but west coast interviews. Yeah, initially, like, you see how Cole. Cole did four different interviews. I don't want to see him do nothing with west coast interviews initially, and then maybe, you know, go outside and do something different. But I want him to sit down and talk to people who actually know him from the beginning. Because I still think there's a lot of mystery around Kendrick Lamar.

[Andrew Schulz]

But that's good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's great.

[Andrew Schulz]

Mystery is good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I agree.

[Andrew Schulz]

In a time where we know everything about every person, and every person has an Instagram, a Twitter podcast, and they're constantly over sharing, not knowing things about people becomes currency and value. Now it's hard to get people's attention without them knowing things about you. But if you manage to pierce through and you manage to somehow get their attention and you can pull away.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Woof. My dream interview for Kendrick, honestly would be Kendrick Lamar and Devi Brown. And the reason it would be Devi Brown is because salute to my Good sister, Debbie Brown. She's from la. You know, she grew up in hip hop radio, right? And she's known guys like Kendrick from the beginning. She's interviewed Kendrick before. She's the one who put me on when I first went out to LA in 2006, 2007. Like, she's the one who put me on to Kendrick. And her conversation would be. Would be high level enough that it would pull the things out of Kendrick that I actually want to hear. Because I want to hear the KENDRICK that did Mr. Morale in the big stepper. Because the KENDRICK that did Mr. Morale and the big stepper, that level of Kendrick is the Kendrick that was able to psychologically pick apart Drake. Everybody forgets Meet the Graham. Go listen to Meet the Graham. That's a person that's done a lot of work on theyself, even Euphoria. But go back and listen to Meet the Graham. That's a person who did a lot of work on theyself and was able to psychologically pick apart Drake because he can see where Drake needs to do work on himself as a man. You listen to all them diss records, they all were like that, where's the boy? I mean, where's the man? Cause all I see is, what do you say? Where's the boy? I see the boy, but where's the man? Cause I ain't seen him yet. You know what I mean? Like, shit like that. Like, oh, it's like, oh, he's in this motherfucking head. You need to do some ayahuasca to separate yourself from your ego. Like, it's like, oh, he's in his head. Devi and Kendrick can have the conversation that I think I would personally like to hear from Kendrick at this point.

[Andrew Schulz]

Those two guys spent a lot of time thinking about each other.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's great. By the way. You think that when you go to war with somebody, you don't, no, no, let America put boots on the ground in Iran.

[Andrew Schulz]

Don't let them, don't let them, don't let them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But if they did, guess who's been preparing for that for the last 20 plus years. Okay, okay. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. You gotta be ready for war at all times. You gotta know who your opponent is.

[Andrew Schulz]

You're right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right. Like right now, J. Cole's opponent is microphone when he's. But you got to who your opponent is. Because if you don't know who your opponent is, you'll sit down in front of these microphones and be confused. And we'll be like, well, when is this war gonna be over?

[Andrew Schulz]

Why don't we get a J. Cole Charlamagne, The God Breakdown, the black. You do it in black and white. That's mulatto,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

you know, let's pay some bills.

[Andrew Schulz]

Damn.

[Taylor]

I didn't show y' all the other Asian.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What is up with you?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, Taylor, let us see the girl's teeth fall out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They don't want us to realize. Respect this.

[Andrew Schulz]

Show us. Show us the girl falling out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's see the Asian Miss Thailand contestants teeth fall out live on stage.

[Donnell Rawlings]

Oh,

[Taylor]

but then she does a little cute model.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And forget about they don't got good veneers in Thailand.

[Andrew Schulz]

N. Bro, come on.

[Taylor]

Wait. You got to hear her voice.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Actually, they don't got good veneers in Thailand. Yo, why they don't got good veneers in Thailand, man?

[Andrew Schulz]

You know other they're focused on, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why they don't got good veneers in Thailand, man?

[Andrew Schulz]

Because you're not going there for the teeth, man. Going there for something else. You're going there to get poked.

[Donnell Rawlings]

Oh, nah. Oh, my God.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, no. Chris, you got.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can we pay some bills like we wanted to 10 minutes ago? Taylor, this was crazy.

[Taylor]

That's crazy. Y' all always talk about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know why what Chris did to you. Yo, but just. Just stop. Asian hate.

[Andrew Schulz]

All right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Church announcements. What we got? Hezekiah Walker, Yo, Rhode Island.

[Andrew Schulz]

Thank you so much, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did you go to Irregardless Biscuit?

[Andrew Schulz]

I didn't, man. I didn't. I didn't. We were there. We were there quick, bro. It was in and out. But thank you guys so much, man. It felt great to just be back on stage in Nashville. Thank you guys so much. So that was. That was really awesome. And I'm gonna be putting out. I think we'll be announcing, like, a few shows soon. I think we'll announce it like a few clubs in the near future, so stay tuned to that. I'll probably post on my Instagram or something about it. And. Yeah, get on those quick. But thank you guys so much, man. That was. That was awesome. Feels great to be back. Feels great.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I want to tell everybody that Arsenio Hall's memoir, Arsenio, is available everywhere. You buy books right now. Okay, Go out there and grab a copy, man. It is one of the greatest entertainment memoirs I've ever read in my life. If you are a fan of, you know, just 90s Hollywood, if you grew up in an era where you remember what Arsenio hall meant to culture. Believe me, you have no idea what that man had to do to move this culture that we love forward, man. So go pick up Arsenio Hall's memoir, Arsenio. It is available everywhere. You buy books right now, courtesy of Black Privilege Publishing, Simon and Schuster.

[Chris]

A lot of press today. I noticed. New York Times profile and New Yorker profile.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen, it goes back to what we talk about when it comes to being mysterious. Arsenio Hall's 70 years old and he don't really talk a lot. There's not too many long form Arsenio hall interviews you can find. I can think of a Vlad TV one, he did Breakfast Club and Coming to America. Two came out. He did it via Zoom. Other than that, you can't really find too many long form Arsenio hall interviews. So. So the fact that he has a book out and he's really telling this, this is a real memoir from start to finish, the beginning, middle, and you know where he at? Where's he at currently in his life, man.

[Andrew Schulz]

I hope the younger generation takes interest in his life.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He will. You know why?

[Andrew Schulz]

Tell me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because the people who have the platforms now know what he means. So he's doing Rogan.

[Andrew Schulz]

Sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I mean?

[Andrew Schulz]

Arsenio was almost like podcast before podcasts in that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely.

[Andrew Schulz]

His show became a incredibly disruptive force for introducing people to the mainstream. And I don't think it was expected to do that in its inception. I think people were like, oh, this is going to be a cultural thing and just the culture will watch it. But it broke out in this massive, massive way.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, you know what he did?

[Andrew Schulz]

What do you do? He introduced the culture to the mainstream.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. Because the culture was growing at the same time.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hip hop culture was growing at the same time.

[Andrew Schulz]

But it was just this amazing disruptive force. And I hope that our generation has interest in that because of the role that he played. I don't even know if he's credited in a lot of ways. I think we understand it in that impact. But when you look back at the impact of the culture and how it becomes mainstream and how it becomes consumed and not only becomes mainstream, but it's very rare that things are mainstream and cool.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

And that's something that like black American culture has been able to do that is very difficult. Like, usually what makes things cool is that they're rebellious and not mainstream. And for a very long period of time in American history, black culture has maintained being dominant culture, while out without being corny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's because every single time there's a new rapper that comes out, like a new fresh rapper. Right. Like, you had your snoops, and then, you know, later on you have a DMX, then you have a 50 cent.

[Andrew Schulz]

They're all new iterations, and they're rebellious

[Charlamagne Tha God]

in their own right. Exactly.

[Andrew Schulz]

Anyway, it's just a. I've always found him to be, like, a fascinating figure, and I just hope that young people are curious about it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, it's going to be hard to avoid him, as Chris just said. You know, you got the New Yorker, you got the New York Post. New York Times already did. Big article. New York Times gave him a great review. He's doing everything. He's doing Conan o'. Brien, He's a friend podcast. He's doing Good Morning America. He's doing, you know, Colbert. He's doing the View, he's doing Rogan, he's doing Breakfast Club. He's doing the Day Show. He's doing everything. Yeah, that's Arsenio fucking Hall, guys.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, that's Arsenio fucking Hall, okay? When you are that type of cultural institution, people want to sit down and talk.

[Andrew Schulz]

Also. You just want to hear the stories.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, like, oh, my God, man.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wait, I'm not even joking. I know I'm biased because I'm publishing it and because he's, you know, an entertainment. This is one of the best entertainment memoirs I've ever read in my life, and I can't wait for other people to read it. I mean, people I've seen reviews, but I can't wait for other people to read it, because I know I'm probably too close to it. Just because I love Arsenio hall and have always loved Arsenio Hall. So I'm just so eager to hear his story. So I was so eager to read his story. But I'm telling you, this book does not disappoint.

[Chris]

I read the Times and the New York article. I think the thing that kind of stood out is he says he's a real introvert.

[Andrew Schulz]

Right.

[Chris]

He is, like, a really quiet, not confident. You know, he basically says that whoever you saw on TV was me projecting who I wanted to be. And the second the cameras are off, I'm a much quieter kind of scared, you know, like. And it took him a long time to kind of build up that courage. Yeah. Which was interesting to me, because you gotta remember the other thing about his

[Andrew Schulz]

legacy is, so when he does it, it's all right, but when Cole does it, It.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I believe it when Arsenio does it because Arsenio never said he was the best. And Arsenio ain't running to sit in front of microphones and tell us how humble he is.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm fucking with you. But, yeah, that is a cool thing. And I think it. Yeah, I'm very excited. Just for what is it like sometimes, you know, entertainers that have been in. In the business forever and haven't gotten it just due. Well, I think he's gotten his. To us, I think he's got his just due. But I think that there's sometimes a resurgence late in their careers where there's this, like, reminder you go, maybe as we get older, we feel like a little touch of nostalgia, like we want it. And then there's this reminder you go, whoa, yeah, that guy. That was the dude. And yeah, it'd be really cool if that happens.

[Chris]

You also got to remember how many other this is all happened in era where the late night talk show was the preeminent interview show.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Chris]

They put a ton of money into Magic Johnson. I remember having a late night.

[Andrew Schulz]

I remember.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was it after.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chris]

Howard Stern, I think, had one at that time. I don't recall Joan River.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, there was a whole slew of

[Chris]

big names that they really hyped up as the one who were going to inherit the throne. And he was the one who kind of.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He would never. With a network.

[Chris]

I thought he was on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He was never with a network. Like, you know how, like Leno was with NBC. Carson and Leno was NBC. Then it was the whole CBS thing and they got into Late Night and they had.

[Andrew Schulz]

Who was he on?

[Chris]

Was it syndicated?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He was syndicated, yeah. He was literally syndicated. So you would. You could buy him and put him wherever you wanted to put him. He wasn't with. I thought he was with Fox all those years. I thought Fox had really invested into Late Night before.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, so like, in some cities he was in Fox. In some cities he was on a different show. That's right.

[Donnell Rawlings]

Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Andrew Schulz]

Even more interesting that he was able to cut through.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right. But he cut through because of culture.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, yeah, of course he cut through

[Charlamagne Tha God]

because of culture, because of who he was choosing to put on to put on his platform. But yeah, shout out to Arsenio. Go get the book. Arsenio the memoir is available everywhere. You buy books now. And the fourth annual Black Effect Podcast Festival is happening Saturday, April 25th in Atlanta, Georgia at Pullman Yards. Drink Champs is going to be on that Stage Reality with the King with Carlos King. Keep It Positive, Sweetie. With Crystal Renee Haslett. Club 520 with Jeff Teague. Who am I missing? Gritson Eggs Podcast with Deontay Kyle and Big Ice Cup Cat. And don't Call Me White Girl Mona will be on that stage. So go get your [e-mail] podcast festival.

[Donnell Rawlings]

And if you haven't heard, I have a new show. It's called AM Mornings. Check me out every Sunday live at 11am Eastern. It's a live calling show. I want to hear from you guys. So, yeah, that's AM mornings on YouTube.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What else we got, Taylor? Ooh, Olympic committee bars, transgender athletes from women's events. I don't know how big of a deal. This is why.

[Donnell Rawlings]

Whoa.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cause I don't know how many transgender athletes were even participating in these women's events.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, if they were allowed to, wouldn't it be all of them?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So one.

[Andrew Schulz]

No. Like, if they were allowed to compete in the women's events, wouldn't it just be all trans?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I'm saying. But they barred transgender athletes from women's events. But was there an influx of transgender athletes? These women's events? That's what I'm at.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think the one is like the. The boxing. The girl one for box.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah, you gotta be.

[Donnell Rawlings]

But technically, she's not trans.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah.

[Donnell Rawlings]

Something about her blood that. It has both genes or whatever, like the XX and the xy, but chrome chromosomes. Chromosomes.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Is it crimsons?

[Donnell Rawlings]

But she was born a woman. Technically.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't want to talk about this.

[Donnell Rawlings]

Like, technically, she's not trans.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't wanna talk about this.

[Donnell Rawlings]

All right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Avengers Doomsday is coming out. And if, you know, if you watch Avengers Doomsday in Avengers Doomsday, you know the X Men are in Avengers Doomsday.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And they're talking about how they're going to make the Mutants introduce the Mutants to the mcu. And so it might have been something because of the Snap. The Snap created some type of. Of radiation that activated the X gene. Obviously, that exists.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That already existed within the music.

[Andrew Schulz]

Have you guys noticed that the trans conversation doesn't even exist anymore?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Huh?

[Donnell Rawlings]

No. They're trying to bring it back.

[Andrew Schulz]

Are they really? Yeah, but, like, for a while, we weren't even talking about it at all. Yeah.

[Donnell Rawlings]

But the midterms is coming up.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, so the election's coming up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Republicans got to get something new. Yeah, the trans boogey boogeyman woman thing ain't gonna Work no more, man.

[Andrew Schulz]

Boogie person.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The boogie day. Trans boogie day.

[Andrew Schulz]

The boogie them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The trans boogie them. The trans boogey them. That ain't gonna work, guys.

[Andrew Schulz]

Ain't gonna work, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How? The trans boogie didn't make her work.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Gotta transition us out of this war.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You gotta cut your.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's what's gonna work. Transition us out of this war.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The trans. Yeah, the trans boogie them. Ain't gonna work. Let's do some asking idiots tales.

[Chris]

Hold on. Speaking of the war.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, okay.

[Chris]

I wanted. Did you see you got shout out by Professor Zhang?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No way.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Get the fuck out of here, Charlemagne. Why you ain't send me this?

[Andrew Schulz]

Chris, you're an English lit graduate and you're not a professor. I know it's your YouTube moniker, but you're a high school teacher. You're not actually a professor, Right?

[Professor Jiang]

So when I went to Yale, I was actually a math and physics major. I was declared a math physics major, but the yelling department was very strong, and so I switched majors. So I both. I have actually both a math background as well as an English background. That's why my system of analysis can seem strange to people, because. Because I'm combining a multidisciplinary approach to my thinking.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yep.

[Professor Jiang]

And I'm not a professor. I'm not a professor.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But.

[Professor Jiang]

But I never said I was professor. It's the Internet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who called me?

[Andrew Schulz]

Hold on, hold on. You don't call yourself professor jiang on your YouTube channel.

[Professor Jiang]

I do now, but when I first started out, if you go way back to my.

[Andrew Schulz]

It doesn't matter when you first started out. You do call yourself Professor Jag, and you're not a professor.

[Professor Jiang]

Look, look, there's a guy on the Internet who comes out who calls himself the God. Have you interviewed him yet and ask him why he calls himself the God?

[Andrew Schulz]

I think I. I'm good friends with the radio host called Charlemagne the God. But no one actually thinks he's a God. People actually think you're a professor. Oh, wow.

[Chris]

All right, let's give that some time.

[Taylor]

That's a nice bite.

[Andrew Schulz]

What were they beefing over? It sounded contentious.

[Chris]

So that was Professor.

[Andrew Schulz]

This is what. This is what? Chris has been saving his.

[Donnell Rawlings]

I know.

[Chris]

I was waiting.

[Andrew Schulz]

He got a small gas tank and

[Charlamagne Tha God]

he's ready to go all in.

[Andrew Schulz]

All right, give it to us, Chris.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And by the way, based off the segue we just did, he can identify as whatever he wants to identify.

[Andrew Schulz]

Thank you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, thank you. Continue, Chris.

[Chris]

All right, so Professor Jiang, if I'm saying it correctly, I'M probably not. Has been one of these voices, let's say, that's really emerged on the Internet as a commentator on the war and geopolitical situations and what the. He. He practices the game theory. He's a believer in the game.

[Andrew Schulz]

He also predicted this. Almost predicted this. Exactly. Yeah.

[Chris]

There's also a lot of questions, as we can tell. And that was Mehdi Hassan he was talking to.

[Andrew Schulz]

This is Chris.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is J. Cole, by the way. I don't think that Chris dislikes this guy. Watch, watch, watch. But every time I bring him up, he's got a little something to say about.

[Andrew Schulz]

Let him cook. Let him cook. You don't know how right you are. You don't know how right you are. Go, go, go, go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What he do?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, we need Chris.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can precious Yang. Chris.

[Chris]

I didn't say I didn't like him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I seen you stuff on him and you always got a little.

[Chris]

I just said I put a little asterisk next to his name.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You do.

[Chris]

You do put a little asterisk next to his name.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Chris]

So he's in China right now. Mainland China. He had been kicked out of mainland China by the Chinese government for being a spy. And then he went to Toronto, where he became known as, you know for

[Andrew Schulz]

a fact that he was kicked out.

[Chris]

He talks about it in this interview, and he has a reason why it happened. It was a misunderstanding, essentially, of course. But this is a very interesting interview because to me, a large part of the interview was Mehdi Hasan trying to get Professor Jiang to basically admit that he's a mouthpiece now for the Chinese government, that he's pushing the Chinese agenda, because why else would they let you back in after you've already been kicked out? Right. And now you're free to say whatever you want where everyone else in China is incredibly censored. Why all of a sudden do you have this microphone that can't be shut off?

[Andrew Schulz]

And what is his response?

[Chris]

His response was, well, the reason they're not censoring me is because I'm not talking to a Chinese audience. They only care about what a Chinese audience sees in Jess. I'm speaking to Americans, and that's not something that the Chinese government's concerned about.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, what does he say about China? Because I don't think China would censor him saying things about other countries if they were potentially advantageous.

[Chris]

Well, so, of course, Mei Hasan presses him on that, and then his response is like, well, China just wants peace in this situation. That's all that China really wants. China really?

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, no. Did Mehdi get him?

[Chris]

I don't think Mehdi got him, but he was circling him.

[Andrew Schulz]

Did you put him in a Chinese finger trap?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's happening?

[Chris]

Well, Mehdi also. This is what was interesting to me too. Mehdi comes after him for being anti Semitic.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's anti Semitic.

[Chris]

That was Mehdi's point. And it got very much into the weeds of this pan. You might be familiar with the term. I can't remember it. Pan Judaica. Are you familiar with.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, yeah, Greater Israel. Right.

[Chris]

So he's trying to pin him on a Pan Judaica argument.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And

[Chris]

I thought the professor did a pretty nice job kind of bobbing and weaving and not getting pinned down or anything. But I've enjoyed his commentary. I would say that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Could I ask a question? What would make him a Chinese spy? Because the only reason I know him is because he was right about the things that he predicted.

[Donnell Rawlings]

You are not listening. Just that way.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, no, no. I'm just saying I was listening. But why would people think he's a Chinese spy when all he was kicked out of.

[Andrew Schulz]

Kicked out for being a spy, then let back in. So the idea is he would be a double agent.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I'm saying what would he be doing to America? He's l. Nothing but predict exactly the we got. Well, he's.

[Chris]

His overall message is that America has entered into a situation it can't get out of and that this is going to be a big problem for America.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, but I mean, who hasn't said that?

[Donnell Rawlings]

Well, he's predicting that America is going to lose this war.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who haven't said that? I ain't heard nobody say we can win this shit.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't know if that's the.

[Donnell Rawlings]

I mean he has pretty.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I heard that Trump was going to

[Andrew Schulz]

win, that he was going to choose Vance or.

[Chris]

Or no, his thing he's. Trump was going to choose J.D.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

vance.

[Chris]

No, no, the woman.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no, he said either one. He said J.D. vance.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He said both. Said Trump was going to win, but

[Andrew Schulz]

it was either or. Oh, I just thought it was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I never heard the Nikki Haley.

[Andrew Schulz]

He said we were going to go to war with Iran and that there would be boots on the ground. I think those are his big. And these. All these things have come true.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I mean that's what I'm saying. What has he done that's so Chinese spyish is what.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, what I think is interesting about him is that and reason why these galv much support online and it also could be like clip farmed and you know they could be putting a lot of money and making sure that his messaging is going everywhere. And who is they? I don't know.

[Donnell Rawlings]

Right.

[Andrew Schulz]

But it just so happens that there are a lot of Americans that also feel this sentiment. They're like, why the hell are we going into this war? How is this advantageous to us? We're just going to lose a lot of money, potentially American lives, like, what the fuck is going on? But to your point, which is like, if, if this is to the benefit of China, that the American sentiment is this, what is to the detriment of China, which is probably America having a controlling interest in the oil coming out of Iran. Right, right.

[Chris]

The US being in control of the straits and China having to pay a

[Andrew Schulz]

toll or a fee or at least having some sort of impasse. Yeah.

[Chris]

The other thing about this guy is he's very into secret societies, apparently. And that's another thing that people point out, out. I, I, I find it interesting.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just he's a black Israelite. Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Okay, okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A yellow Israelite.

[Andrew Schulz]

Don't do it.

[Chris]

What can I, on that point though, I will say something interesting. I, I follow a guy, I forget his full name. Jerry. He's a Nigerian guy who's in China and speaks fluent Mandarin and goes around China and not in the big cities but in rural areas. And people are shocked to see him. They've never seen an African before in person. And they're always coming up to him and asking, or at least this is what he posts. You know, is your skin real? Are you dirty? Like, you know, and not a racist way, but in a purely like inquisitive way because they really can't believe it. He says, no, I was born this way. My skin is this color. You know, what color is your skin? And the Chinese people always say they're white, which is interesting to me. And he says, no, no, no, you're yellow. And they're like, no, we're white.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That is interesting. We've never heard Asians say that. I think we're the only country that calls people yellow. And I'm not even just talking about Asians. I'm talking about even like with light skinned people, beige people, waffle colored. You know what I'm saying? Like we're the only ones that do that. That's interesting.

[Andrew Schulz]

So the Chinese think they're white, but

[Chris]

I don't think they think they're white in the American sense.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just skin tone.

[Andrew Schulz]

But to them it's white.

[Chris]

If you were to ask. And he always talks to little kids which is interesting because they're the most

[Andrew Schulz]

kind of honest about it.

[Chris]

Honest. And they look at their. He says, what's your color? And they look at their hands and they go, I'm white.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, they're right. Yeah. It's not like they're walking around here looking like Canary.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, it's true, though. Like, they're not yellow.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why the do we even say that?

[Andrew Schulz]

But you're also not black.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I guess I'm brown. You're proud you're brown?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Taylor]

I remember questioning that.

[Andrew Schulz]

Say again?

[Taylor]

When I was a kid, I remember questioning my mom, like, why are they call us black? I'm clearly brown.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah. My daughter say that. Now they understand why they get called black. But they're like, but we're brown.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. They totally get that.

[Chris]

This isn't really white. I mean, it's close to white, right? But.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, but the thing we were rounding

[Donnell Rawlings]

up, the thing I don't understand about the professor guy. It's like, if he's in mainland China, I thought they're not allowed to use YouTube.

[Chris]

So he's talking about VPNs and all this, and he has an answer for everything.

[Donnell Rawlings]

But wouldn't China like, Bro, as popular as he is?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jane, Chris.

[Chris]

Bro.

[Donnell Rawlings]

When they ghetto.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes. So then of course.

[Chris]

Of course I like Professor Jang. I'm watching.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, but of course they're aware of what he's doing. And the messaging has to be.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now.

[Andrew Schulz]

It doesn't mean that the messenger is inauthentic to him, but the government must feel that this messaging also is beneficial.

[Chris]

Their agenda.

[Andrew Schulz]

Because they take a billionaire tech CEO, they lock them in a basement for a month, they're not going to let him throw up YouTube videos on an app that doesn't exist in China if they're not okay with it.

[Donnell Rawlings]

Oh, okay.

[Andrew Schulz]

All right.

[Chris]

Videos that are getting a lot of traction, Huge traction.

[Andrew Schulz]

Which they're aware. Star like, absolutely. So. So of course there's. And what does he. He doesn't go like, obviously they're aware and they like this messaging. He doesn't say that.

[Chris]

He's trying to say because the audience is Western and not in China, their only concern is the type of information that goes out to Chinese people. They don't care about Western, which is probably fairly disingenuous to your point, because. Well. But the interesting thing is. Charlemagne.

[Andrew Schulz]

Why not just be honest?

[Donnell Rawlings]

So.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, yeah, of course you are. But, like, why not?

[Chris]

I will.

[Andrew Schulz]

Why not just be honest, though? Why not just be like, I guess the Chinese government likes what I'm saying. Like, it doesn't change the fact that this is what I believe.

[Chris]

Well, because I think part of the reason his brand is resonating is because he seems to be an independent thinker. Right. And that he's just parroting storyline that's beneficial to China.

[Andrew Schulz]

But don't we assume that with everything that comes out of China, like if there's state sponsored media coming out of or not even state sponsored, if there's like a Russian YouTuber that's popping off, like, Putin's not going to let that happen.

[Donnell Rawlings]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm more concerned about the American people that be pushing propaganda for other countries.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, talk to us.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't worry.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, it's coming out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Be patient, guys.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, it's coming out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Be patient. Oh yeah.

[Donnell Rawlings]

Like, I didn't think that until right now that. So now I'm questioning what Professor Jang is. I think.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think nobody. I think you never thought about it. Yeah, Well, I think you never question things that match what you feel. Like when something meets you at what you're feeling, you're like, oh, yeah, that must be right. Because I feel it and this person is saying it. When things go against what you feel, you start looking for different ways to discredit that person.

[Chris]

No, I had the opposite reaction.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, really?

[Chris]

I saw his video. I was like, I like what this guy's talking about.

[Andrew Schulz]

Who is he?

[Chris]

And then I started doing some research and I was like,

[Andrew Schulz]

interesting.

[Chris]

Go with him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's do some asking. Idiots, man.

[Andrew Schulz]

Let's do it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because Chris is in here hating on professionals.

[Donnell Rawlings]

One smart agent.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's crazy. It's kind of crazy. But I will say, bro, I will say Chris is the first person to say, I don't think this guy is a real professor. I was sending Chris some clips to him and he was like, I don't think this guy's a real professor. I was like, damn. Okay.

[Andrew Schulz]

And Chris was right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Kindle with Comedy says, what video game cheat code would y' all want in real life? Easy call. Up, up, down, down. Left, right, select start a b.

[Andrew Schulz]

Hold on. 99 lives.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

30. How many lives? 30 lives, I believe.

[Andrew Schulz]

What's the contra one?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's the. That's Contra. That was it. What's the Contra?

[Andrew Schulz]

I thought that was 99 lives.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, it's 30. You get 30 lives. You had a Contra CO. Yeah. Up, up, down, down. Left, right, left, right, ba. It gives you 30 extra lives instead of the default three.

[Andrew Schulz]

What a game Contra was. Contra was so fire you wouldn't change

[Charlamagne Tha God]

much though, if you. Even if you had more than one life, bro, you wouldn't live reckless.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no, not even that. Like, what is like Turbo would be fire. Be able to use Turbo. I'm not gassing you. Like, go faster. I'm not gassing you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What game was that? Madden?

[Andrew Schulz]

Any NBA 2K?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, no, no, I wouldn't want to go fast. I don't think life is. Is lived the best fast.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, you don't even know what I'm saying.

[Donnell Rawlings]

Just like you can just.

[Andrew Schulz]

What you mean you can just run quicker to a spot you have?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're not a track star. You running fast forward.

[Andrew Schulz]

Ask Taylor.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what's wrong with y' all New Yorkers. Y' all New Yorkers always want to. Why do you reason exactly? What reason would I play a paddle?

[Andrew Schulz]

I'll be there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, see, that's different. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Nah, you'd be better off with like Nightcrawler's powers to just.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yep.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The ball is every single mother.

[Andrew Schulz]

That would be fire. Being able to disappear and then reappear in another place.

[Taylor]

Yeah, that's what I wanted.

[Andrew Schulz]

Because then you're. You're avoiding the tsa. Just going to vacation. Going to meet. That would be amazing. Amazing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But then your whole family would have to have those powers.

[Andrew Schulz]

They got to come with me. If you hold them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah, that'd be fire.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's great. But that would be fun.

[Donnell Rawlings]

Do you think it takes away some of the enjoyment you get when you travel someplace? Because now you can be anywhere.

[Andrew Schulz]

It does. And I'm fine with that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. If I could. If we could cut travel. Travel. Travel is a mother.

[Andrew Schulz]

Also expensive. Once you have a family. Five. Five people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's like, yo, oh, man, thank God the TSA workers got paid this week. You know what I'm saying? And then I was talking to some of them when I flew in today, and they was telling me that they only got two of the paychecks that they were supposed to get. I think they were supposed to get three. Since this five week period they got two. So they said two thirds of what they were supposed to get.

[Donnell Rawlings]

But the thing I don't get, how can he just make an executive order to pay? So every time we have a government shutdown, why haven't presidents just be like, executive order my way out of it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know. I don't know why every time we have a government shutdown, the motherfuckers in the government are the ones that shouldn't get paid. The Congress people, the lawmakers are the ones that shouldn't get no money. Why do we keep doing this to everyday working class people who make our world go around?

[Andrew Schulz]

Mind boggling.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Make the law. The lawmakers can't get no money. But they wouldn't even give a fuck all the money they making under the table.

[Andrew Schulz]

Nah, but there might be some of them. There might be some of them and enough of them that it might be influential. Put some pressure. I 100%. If. If regular everyday workers aren't getting paid, Congress not getting paid, shouldn't get paid.

[Chris]

What do you think people in Congress get paid monthly?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know. Let's look that up.

[Andrew Schulz]

Monthly, bi, weekly, whatever. I mean, it's just a check at the end of the day. How often do government workers get paid? It's government check.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How often do lawmakers in Congress get paid legally? Right. Not that under the table money. They get paid twice a month, semi monthly, and their annual salary is typically 174 grand per year.

[Andrew Schulz]

And you know what else?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

24 paychecks a year, around first and 15 for each month.

[Andrew Schulz]

No security for them while this is shut down.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A lot of them don't have it now, though. Well, I didn't have to pay outside security.

[Andrew Schulz]

Good. Even more now you got to pay outside security. Like we got to strip things from them because right now they're playing with other people's lives.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I thought it was good last week. I don't know if every airline did it, but there was some airports or maybe it was airlines that wouldn't let lawmakers, you know, use the perks they usually use. Like they had to get readers.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, TMZ was saying take pictures of them if they're traveling.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Word up. Fuck all that.

[Chris]

Well, to be fair, Lindsey Graham was photographed at Disney World this week. He didn't have any security with him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really?

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, he was running up on Mr. Burns. Well, they might no nowadays in this era, but would you even know Lindsey Graham if you saw him in the street?

[Chris]

It's all over the Internet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really.

[Chris]

People are very interested by this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Interesting.

[Andrew Schulz]

Who is he there with?

[Chris]

Nobody, it seems.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, interesting.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Mickey Mouse.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, he definitely a Mickey.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's definitely a Mickey guy.

[Andrew Schulz]

He wants that Mickey.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't want to be nowhere near Minnie.

[Andrew Schulz]

Uh, Mickey.

[Donnell Rawlings]

Nah, he's probably more Goofy. Goofy's a little sweet.

[Andrew Schulz]

You think Goofy's sweet?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

God damn. Why you gotta give the dope? Why you gotta just give the recipe away? Why we can't just.

[Andrew Schulz]

We're just playing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? Sprinkle it a little sugar. Sprinkle it a little sugar. Here he come. Like. You know what I mean?

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what though? Lindsey Graham did say he was excited for Iceman.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I bet he is. I bet that's his favorite character. Bobby.

[Andrew Schulz]

He can't wait for that Iceman movie to come out, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Real be smooth. Says you wake up one day missing one sense. Which sense would you rather lose and why?

[Andrew Schulz]

Smell. I could go. I could probably go without smell, but. Doesn't smell with your taste, but I'm assuming it doesn't. I'm assuming those are separate. So I don't have smell, but I still have taste. I could go through life. That might even be an advantage.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What sense would I. Common. Common. Common.

[Taylor]

That's not common.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do you really need common sense not to.

[Taylor]

That's not one of the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Does common sense really get you anywhere, guys?

[Andrew Schulz]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ain't nobody cares about common common sense. Nobody gives a no more. Okay. We've been saying common sense ain't common.

[Andrew Schulz]

There is no value to common sense.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Zero. Is it really?

[Taylor]

Yes.

[Donnell Rawlings]

A lot of value.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's value as a human.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nobody in this room has it.

[Andrew Schulz]

But not on. Not in entertainment. Everything you got to say got to be uncommon.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You think you have common sense?

[Taylor]

Yeah. It comes to my child, my family. Yeah.

[Donnell Rawlings]

Oh.

[Andrew Schulz]

But outside of that, though.

[Donnell Rawlings]

That's not fair.

[Taylor]

What's not fair?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

You can't. You can't use that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You just got here with motherhood. You've been a mother two seconds.

[Taylor]

How long have you been a mother? Oh, okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Whoa.

[Taylor]

What? I don't give a fuck how many kids you got.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I am a mother. First of all. I am a mother. Everybody in this room is a mother and father. It took a mother and father to make you. So you think you just are a mom.

[Taylor]

We're not about to do this right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I am a mother and father.

[Donnell Rawlings]

I am.

[Taylor]

You are not a single mother.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's a. Ingredients you were using what single mothers use. Ingredients it took to make me was a mother.

[Taylor]

I'm not a single mother. I'm saying you're egg.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I. I am. You're not a mother and father.

[Andrew Schulz]

I am a mother and father.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I am a. Chris. You're not a mother and father. Of course we. I am mother and father.

[Taylor]

Y' all are called parents. Okay?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you're a mother and father.

[Taylor]

But different. Don't do that.

[Andrew Schulz]

You are.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You are a mother and father.

[Andrew Schulz]

You're made of a mother and father. You're a mulatto when it comes to that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, honestly?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. If you going to respect this, Mama, I was created. Respect this.

[Taylor]

Yes. I was created by a mother.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Respect this.

[Taylor]

By my mother and my. My father.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I am a mother and father.

[Taylor]

We're not gonna act like I am

[Charlamagne Tha God]

a mother and father by the grace of God, as a beautiful wife. We all have beautiful wives. You take that role. But if I was a single mother and father, you would be a malada either. I could do both.

[Andrew Schulz]

We know what it's like to be

[Charlamagne Tha God]

a mother that you don't want to respect our mothers, you're going to respect us for mother. That's what we are. We're for mother. We are for mother.

[Andrew Schulz]

Mothers. It's true.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We starting a new thing. Mothers stand up for mothers. For mothers. We are for mothers. Okay? Father and mothers mixed.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's what we're made out of.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Andrew Schulz]

There's nothing we could do about it. We didn't choose this life.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right. We are five mothers. And you're going to respect us as for mothers. Okay. And Patrick is a for mother. Shout out to Big C. Shout out

[Taylor]

to Big C. So y' all carry a child for almost 10 months.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Even more.

[Andrew Schulz]

Even better. Yeah, even better.

[Taylor]

Y' all better not piss me off on this podcast.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You think you did that alone?

[Andrew Schulz]

We.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow. Wow. Wow what? Big P had nothing to do with it.

[Taylor]

I didn't say that. Did he carry the child? No, I carried.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Andrew Schulz]

We've been carried. Like, do you know what it's like to carry? We've been in there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen, we know what it's like. I'm not taking away the physical aspect of carrying the baby for nine months. But you think mentally you did that alone?

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You think emotionally you did that alone.

[Andrew Schulz]

A husband got experience.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what it's like to carry

[Andrew Schulz]

a pregnant woman for 10 months? That's what a husband got.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You think Big P didn't have to deal with g shenanigans? First of all, I saw a study the other day that said women's hormones are only normal, like, three days out of a month.

[Andrew Schulz]

Thank you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you.

[Andrew Schulz]

I. Ben said this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Look it up. I'm not even. I read this three days. I read a. That a woman's hormones are only normal three days out of the month.

[Taylor]

Okay?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So that's what we got to deal with.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think three is a lot to deal with.

[Chris]

Is.

[Taylor]

I think the deal with is crazy cuz y' all are not in it like how we are though. Y' all not y' all not every day in our minds and our bodies caring. It.

[Andrew Schulz]

Something got to make sense.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We're with you some. Hold on. Hey.

[Andrew Schulz]

Someone gotta make makes sense.

[Taylor]

Why would I.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

As for mothers, where would you end making sense of the things that don't make sense to you? 27 days out of here.

[Andrew Schulz]

God chose this. One of us is going to be crazy and the other one's going to be able to deal with it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Am I lying? How many what does he say about hormone peaks three days out of the

[Taylor]

month straight answer are sounding like.

[Donnell Rawlings]

But then it's saying what they're trying

[Taylor]

to ban in Olympics.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Abnormal.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, they're abnormal.

[Donnell Rawlings]

You're saying they're not abnormal.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They are abnormal.

[Andrew Schulz]

Three days out of the month. Two of those days of payday. That's. That's really the only thing that calms y' all down. The third day. I don't even know where that comes out of.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

God damn. I just asked Chat GPT when are women's hormones normal? There isn't one single moment when women's hormones are normal because they're supposed to.

[Taylor]

What would chatgpt know? He's a robot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just telling you, man. Well, you know what?

[Andrew Schulz]

You know why he knows? Because he got to deal with crazy ass women. Type his into him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn. So. So he knows better than we be in this together.

[Taylor]

Because I'm not about to. You're. It's about to be a fight with transgenders. That's what it sounds like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What the. What the. You know what? Taylor's game. Okay. Shout out with Taylor maga Hayes, Right? Taylor said, when all health fails, blame trans.

[Chris]

Trans and Asians.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God. Oh, boy. Man, I got to leave now. Say hello. We love you.

[Andrew Schulz]

Say hello. We love you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

As always.

[Andrew Schulz]

We'll never expect you to know what it's like to be a f. Mother. We'll never expect you to know. All right? But we'll be with you this whole time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We know what you're going through, but

[Andrew Schulz]

we'll never expect you notice to carry the weight of your whole family and your wife.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's a lot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

As always.

[Andrew Schulz]

Look how tired we are right now. Look how tired we are right now. And we're not off duty.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're a my father. But you don't want to accept it.

[Andrew Schulz]

You just want to be one. Deny it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Where for mothers, you're a mufather.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Embrace it, all right? Embrace your identity. You aren't embracing the totality of who you are.

[Andrew Schulz]

Please embrace it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're a Mufather.

[Andrew Schulz]

Before it's too late. Before it's too late, you gotta embrace the fact that you're a fucking dad, too. Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. You're a Yo. You wanna be a father or a dom? What? You wanna be which one? Or a mad. You're a mad. You're a mad. Don't be mad. A mother. Dad. You can be a dom. A dad, mom or mad. A mother.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen. As always, listen to this podcast. You think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple idiots, you don' right, too. It's a brilliant podcast. Thank you for listening.

[Andrew Schulz]

Bam. Bam.