B (1:28)

Yeah. You know, it's also being alone.

A (1:30)

Yeah. It's just so nice. Do you ever feel like with social media, I mean, you've been around. Wait, how you've been doing social media for a long time.

B (1:38)

Yeah.

A (1:38)

Because you were on Vine. Dude, I wasn't even old enough to have a phone to even get vine on it. Think about how old you are right now, dude.

B (1:47)

You know, it's even crazier. I was at a show and this guy came up to me. He goes, could we recreate a picture? This dude's taller than me now. Shows me a picture of him and he's like, to my hip as a kid. So I took a picture of him when he was a little boy, and then now he's, like, taller than me. And, bro, that hit me hard.

A (2:05)

When you were on Vine.

B (2:06)

Yeah.

A (2:06)

Oh, my gosh.

B (2:07)

I've been in. I've been doing this for almost 12 years now.

A (2:09)

That's so crazy.

B (2:10)

Yeah.

A (2:11)

Wait, I'm only saying this because Chris. Chris has had pictures with just about everybody. Do you have one with George when you were younger? Because you have pictures with literally, like, every. Everyone I met you like, probably, like, 2017.

B (2:25)

Really? Like a 1600? Yeah. Oh, that's nice.

A (2:28)

That's so. That's so wild, though, you know, You've been around for so long. You're so old, man.

B (2:32)

Yeah.

A (2:32)

You're so. That's like all I do. We're only like, two minutes in. I'm just, like, blaming you the whole time.

B (2:41)

The.

A (2:41)

The question I was trying to ask.

B (2:43)

There was a question. Good. I just wanted to make sure.

A (2:45)

The question I was trying to ask you was like, do you kind of feel like. I mean, you've been. You've been doing social media for 12 years.

B (2:51)

Do you.

A (2:51)

Do you feel like a. I don't know, like, a pressure to be perfect, I guess.

B (2:55)

Nah, I actually, like, ever since I went off on my own, like, I was so desperate and I was like, whatever, I'm just going to tell the truth all the time. And I found that there's such a strength to, like, showing your flaws. There's. It's so much better to be not perfect and just own that and just stay in front of the world and just be like, oh, I'm working on this. I'm working on that. Like, my addiction with marijuana or anything like swearing or lusting or prideful stuff. Like, if I just put it out there and I dance in front of the world the way I dance in the closet with God, I don't have any fear, anxiety, or depression because I'm not scared of them catching me in an act that I'm trying to hide. It's just. I am who I am in my home and outside.

A (3:35)

I think that's the biggest strength. That's my favorite thing about you, is how vulnerable you are, because it's empowering and encouraging. And when you live in the light, no one could really say anything about you, you know what I mean? Like, you just kind of like, everything's out there and you're just like, yep, like that. That's just how it is, you know?

B (3:51)

Well, yes, I thought that. But then there's people that would lie about you, right? And Then that hurt. That was like my next thing. And when I dealt with that, I asked God, I was like, I don't know how to deal with this. And I just sat there and somebody told me they go, well, bro, they killed Jesus. Yeah, they lied on Jesus name and killed them. The perfect man. They made him look like he was a drunken fool. Yeah. And so, like, I just, I got carried away with looking at the cross and then looking at the world's comments and then looking at the cross and then looking at the world's comments. And then I grew wisdom to know that, like, this will come and go. Like, people will hate me and then later on love me. So, like, it's. It's pointless for me to stay in a world that's like wishy washy. But I stayed to a God that's so true and focused that I'm just like, all right, I feel a little bit more strong. Like, I'm standing on the rock and it's not quicksand. Like, the earth is like, it comes and goes.

A (4:46)

Yeah.

B (4:46)

But Jesus is a rock, so I could just stand on him.

A (4:48)

How do you. How do you deal with the opinions of people?

B (4:52)

I just, I realize that there's times where I don't like myself and there's times that I like myself, and then if I ask God, I want to be an entertainer and be in front of the world, bro, like, I. It's foolish for me to think that there's not going to be people that dislike me, but it's cool if I stick around and I show them my fruits and I just continue to walk where I'm walking. And it's either eventually they'll just be like, actually, I don't like that kid at all, or, wow, I really, I really do like that kid. And I grew up hated a lot as a kid. Like, I got hated. Like when I was in the third grade, I got held back. And I learned something in the third grade that I kept with my heart forever. In the third grade, I try to pretend to be something for people not to like me. And they hated him. And I was like, well, hold on. Myself they hated and then the fake person they hated. Then why don't I just be who I am?

A (5:39)

Yeah.

B (5:39)

That way they at least hate who I really am and not something I'm pretending to be. And so I kept that motion my whole life.

A (5:45)

So you kind of feel like you kind of got a grip on that. Like, pretty young.

B (5:48)

Really young.

A (5:49)

Yeah.

B (5:49)

Yeah. Very young.

A (5:50)

Yeah. So invite. Invite us into your faith. Journey. You know, I'm. I think. I think, definitely for people that have seen you around on social media over the years, like, you've been outspoken about your faith, I would say, for a good amount of time. But, like, you know, I grew up in church, but I didn't follow Jesus and put my faith in him until I was 17 and I went to a private Christian school. So, like, was there, like, an age that it clicked for you, or an age that your faith became personal? What was that kind of, like, I.

B (6:22)

Think that, like, God will humble a man. Kind of like Jacob when he wrestles with him. I think there's a lot of wisdom to that. Right. Like, I think when we wrestle with God, we're able to be humbled and realize, like, what we should be focused on. So a lot of things that people are going through, they think it's a curse, but it's really to bring you closer to God. And so throughout my life, I've realized that all of my greatest moments that I was really excited about were actually my lowest moments where he raised me up high. So my relationship with God is always blossomed because I knew that I could always run to my Father like a good father. So I've always had a relationship with him since I was a kid. I didn't have friends growing up, and when my mom taught me about Jesus, like, she put so much love in my heart for Jesus that I would talk to him like, every day since I was, like, a very young guy. And when I came to Hollywood, I got so busy, and then my relationship with him kind of, like, pulled back and I felt the distance. It's kind of like I personally just chose to leave the light and go into the dark. Wow. And then it took me years to realize why I felt this way. And then when I came back, I was like, oh, okay, okay. Yeah, I don't want to leave this. This is, like, this is my home.

A (7:29)

Yeah. And when you talk about, like, when you. When you moved to Hollywood and then you had that gap when you were pulling away, I mean, I. I think, like, you could definitely feel it. Like, when I moved out here, I could feel how people get sucked into that culture of la. You know what, like, when you. When you describe that darkness, like, what. What did that look like? That time period when it pulled away, was it.

B (7:51)

It just feels like emptiness. And by the way, it wasn't like, I got involved in, like, drugs or, like, crazy things. I, like, was carrying the same sins that I was doing when I had my relationship with Jesus. It's just kind of like a relationship. Like, if me and you hang out, but then we stop hanging out, like, I'm going to feel that. So when I see you next, it's little, like, how have you been? Like, yeah. But with him, like, every time I came back, it just felt like I was breathing again. So thank God I never got so far away. But I also think that was because of my mother's prayers and my one prayer that I asked God when I came here. I was like, before I even auditioned or even had, I didn't even have vine on my phone. Like, I had nothing. And I asked God, I said, like, if it takes me one inch away from you, I don't want it. Wow. So I think the reason why my success came at the time it came is because he didn't want to give it to me if it pushed me away from him. Because he's going off the prayer that I asked him. And so till this day, like, I have so many blessings in my life, but even including my wife or anything that material wise or anything like that, like, none of them, none of them even come close to the how much I love God. So, like, as long as I stay there with my heart, then if I'm ready to give everything up for him, then I feel like I'm in a good place. But once I start accidentally, and I do mean the word accidentally, because we do that accidentally, when I start worshiping other things out of fear. Yeah. Because I think you worship what you fear. So when I was in LA and I couldn't pay my bills and it was like my first time as a man, I started worshiping money because I was like, oh, these pay my bills.

A (9:25)

Yeah.

B (9:25)

And then I had to quickly turn my head around and be like, whoa, whoa, no, no, no. I go, money comes from God. He'll give it to me when I need it. And bro, like, I remember days where I would walk to my mailbox, praying to God, praising him. I didn't know how I was going to pay next week's rent. I'm not joking. And I would open up my mailbox and a check would come in there and I'll be like, this is wildly, wildly too perfect timing.

A (9:47)

Yeah.

B (9:47)

And so, like, he's always given me what I've needed. Nothing more to take me away from him and nothing less to take me away from him. Not that less would take me away from him, but, like, I just feel that everything that I have is from God. And so I worship it at a. I Worship him and not the materialistic things.

A (10:04)

I love how open handed you live. I feel like that's, I feel like that's like the most crucial, crucial part of living with Jesus is like living that open handed life with everything, relationships, friendships, money, work, the whole nine yards. And I love, I love how you emphasize your mother's prayers for you, bro.

B (10:23)

It's needed because it's like I was walking blindly and it was her faith that kept the spirit hovering me through my mistakes. Like, I do believe in praying for others, man. Like my, okay, let's put it this way, like my grandma and my grandpa, their prayers over me. My, my, my mother's prayers over me. It's not like God didn't hear them. So it's like if somebody gave you money, which I think prayers and blessings are way greater than money, you're gonna thank them. So it, you gotta like make sure you're knowing where it's coming from and that will humble you. If I walked around being like, no, it's my talent that got me this money or do I say, where did I get this talent from? Yeah, you got to always make sure that you're appropriate with your appreciation.

A (11:08)

Right?

B (11:09)

Because then it becomes pride. Right. And I think that's what as a man I deal with and I always try to lock in. You know, I used to deal with sin aggressively. The one thing that I try to deal aggressively is my pride. Because at the moment in my life, the success that I have and the power that I have, the only enemy that I have is myself.

A (11:26)

Yeah.

B (11:26)

Nobody else could be my downfall. God gave me everything at my fingertips. So now it's, I gotta make sure that I'm choosing him and not me. That makes any sense?

A (11:34)

No, no, that, that makes total sense. I mean, you know, pride's the original sin. Like man thinking they could be greater than God or convincing themselves they can be greater than God. I, I, I, I think that's a huge encouragement to a lot of people. Especially like, I mean, I think like, like people are transitioning out of high school, whether they're going to college or like, you know, kind of like that time period where you're like, all right, I'm moving to la. Your initial thing was like acting, right? Like you moved out to act like kind of transitioning into like independent lifestyle. It's easy to fall into that category of like worsh, worshiping, money, worshiping friendships when you feel lonely, you know, all, all of those things. You know what? I guess what would the encouragement be to someone that's in that transition time period of, like, practically how to get out of that and, like, slate enslavement to those things.

B (12:25)

Choose what you fear wisely. Real. I. Like, I'm at a place in my life where I only fear God because you worship what you fear. So I fear God then, for I'll worship him. And the Gospel says the beginning of wisdom is fear of the Lord. And I think it's because, like, think about it. If you fear your parents, you're gonna be obedient.

A (12:46)

Yep.

B (12:47)

If you don't fear your parents, you'll do whatever you want. And it's kind of like you're letting yourself loose to do whatever you want. Another thing I would say is ask the Lord way more than you think. My mom used to tell me, invite the Lord on the little things, don't just invite him on the big things. If you invite him on the big things, he'll show up for sure. But, like, the little things, like, if I. If I have a reflection in my heart or thoughts or an imagination or a dream or a relationship, I invite him in everything. How do you want me to see this? Because if I could see it from his perspective, then I could see it from the greatest perspective.

A (13:19)

Yeah.

B (13:19)

If I see it from my perspective, my emotions get in the way, or the way my parents raised me gets in the way, or the way my school taught me gets in the way. But if I ask him, Lord, like, wash my eyes, open my ears, that's why, like, if you read the gospel, like Jesus says, for those of you that have ears and want to hear.

A (13:37)

Yeah.

B (13:39)

Because not everybody who has ears will hear him, because we're choosing not to hear him.

A (13:42)

Yeah. Yeah. That's. Man, that's so good. I love that verse. In Psalm 25, verse 14, King David says that the friendship of the Lord is for those who fear him. That, like, if you want to be friends with God, you have to have that fear of the Lord. Like that deep, affectionate reverence and respect. And I. I just think that's so true. Like, it. The moments in my life when I humble myself before God, that's when I live an abundant life. And I don't mean, like, physically, like abundant, like, I mean, like, I reap the fruits of the Spirit in my life. Like, my life is abundant and joyful and patient and. And kind. And I'm loving and I'm selfless and all those things. When I begin to fear God, and then when I. When I don't fear God, that's when I'm like, oh, why do I feel anxious? Or why do I feel this? Or why is this thing stressing me out? Or maybe it's even on the contrary of, like, why do I feel like this sin struggle? I haven't struggled within a long time. The temptation is creeping on me. Or, like, why? Because my eyes are, like, everywhere but Jesus, you know, if. If I think that's the prime encouragement, I love that. I think that's great.

B (14:52)

That's what my tour is about, actually. So my tour is called the man on Water. I don't want to give it too much because people are paying to, like, go and see, and I want to surprise them with the show. But, like, the. The positioning is, like, I wanted to share what my mom and dad taught me and also the, like, the lessons that I learned from God. And the most important one is anxiety and depression now sweeping the nation. And if I told any man, like, hey, what does it feel to be anxious or depressed? They describe, like, they can't breathe.

A (15:18)

Yeah.

B (15:19)

Some might say underneath water. And I told him, I go, okay, Isn't it beautiful that God describes that with Peter? The moment that Peter took his eyes off of Jesus and looked at the problem. Can't breathe no more. But the moment that he took his eyes and put it back on Jesus, he could breathe again. So I'm trying to go out across America with comedy and the podcast and, like, do it the same way. My mom and dad taught me. My mom was never, like, strict. Like, read the Bible. You got to do this. My mom would lovingly tell me funny stories and, like, situations, and my dad would me in situations to make me really, like, understand the gospel.

A (15:55)

Yeah.

B (15:56)

If that makes any sense.

A (15:57)

No, that makes total sense. And I think that's such a. I mean, I think that's the best. Like, it's not. Your mom wasn't endorsing your behavior, but she was, like, encouraging, like, a fate, faithfulness to Jesus.

B (16:08)

Yeah.

A (16:08)

Loving way. That's the best.

B (16:10)

I used to be, like, guilty. I'd be like, well, mom, like, well, what if God doesn't want me to do this? She goes. She goes, that's the devil. And she goes. And also she goes, you're rejecting what God gave you. And once I really locked in, bro. And I said, all right, well, these talents came from you, Lord. I go, so you do what you will with it. That's when I left. Impulsive. Wow. It was crazy watching it all happen. When I saw all of that form, he started paving my way. And before all that mess happened. I would always cry to my mom about my fears and all that stuff. And one day she went to bed and she cried out to the Lord, and she felt this deep pain in her chest. And the Lord visited her in her dream. And in the dream, she's sitting there, she's trying to clean my room, and she can't clean it. It's too dirty. And so she's sitting there, she's weeping. And the Lord comes in, but not, like, in a physical form, just as a light form. And she, like, bows her head, and he says to her, he goes, tell your son to go that way. But where we looked in the dream, there was nothing there. It was emptiness and darkness. But she didn't doubt him. She grabs me and she goes, go that way. And. And I don't doubt my mom, and I don't doubt God in my dream. And I run to the direction of emptiness. And as my feet are touching the ground, the Lord is paving waves for me and just making all these things around me. Like, it was crazy. It was a crazy dream. And then the next day, I left. Impulsive.

A (17:29)

That's insane.

B (17:30)

Yeah. Yeah. And she didn't know that dream. So I'm sorry, I didn't know that dream. After everything happened, and I told her, I was like, mom, I don't know where I'm going. Like, where I'm going. I'm lost. This is all empty. And she goes, I got to tell you about my dream. And that's when she told me my dream. So then I buckled down, and I, like, leaned into the faith and. Yeah.

A (17:45)

Is that so cool that. I mean, we kind of. We started the videos off of a dream God gave us.

B (17:49)

Yeah.

A (17:50)

Like, I had moved to LA just because I felt like the Lord was leading me here. And then I was kind of doing everything. We're doing Bible study on Wednesday night, house church on Sunday night, feeding the homeless on Friday night. Like, I was kind of doing everything for about the first year and a half, and then I was like, man, God, I want to know what. What my purpose is.

B (18:07)

Like, what am I supposed to do?

A (18:08)

Like, I want to do something for you. I want to run hard and punch it in the mouth and, like, you know, that kind of thing. And then I had a dream one night, and it's kind of like you get this dream or. Or, you know, God lays, You know, you have talents and gifts, and you know that those gifts aren't just small gifts. They're big gifts, and they're going to impact a Lot of people. But you don't know what that looks like. Yeah, you just have that, like, that, like, healthy burden on your chest of like, I'm going to do something with the gifts God has given me. I'm like, man, God, I want to do something with my life for you, and I get that dream. And it's kind of like, same thing. It's like, I don't know what I'm going to do, but I'm going to do it. And then the faithfulness of God. God rewards the faithfulness and all of those things. And, like, now you're going on tour and you're gonna get to bless people. That's. That's insane. Where can people get tickets?

B (18:49)

So sorry. One thing, I just. It caught my spirit caught it. I can't bless people. Like, God uses me to bless people, but I. I don't like saying that I bless people because I'm just not worthy to bless people.

A (19:00)

Yeah, God, yeah. God bless.

B (19:01)

I just want to make sure that nobody's, like, coming to my show thinking that I could bless them. I cannot bless them. Like, I'm coming to make people laugh and tell stories and just be George. And if God could use me in any way, shape, or form, then so be it. But I am not responsible of handing out blessings.

A (19:17)

Yeah, absolutely.

B (19:17)

Yeah. But if you want to come and enjoy, like, comedy and, like, watch the podcast. It's the GeorgeJenko show dot com. Yeah, we're going to 20 cities.

A (19:25)

Let's go.

B (19:25)

Yeah. But I actually had a dream once, like, when I was a little kid. I was in the third grade, and I was in this resource class. Like, mentally challenged kids were like, this is just all of us. I was ADD and dyslexic. And so, like, they just put me in this class. And a very dark thing the teacher asked me, but it was like, it was really real. Her name was Mrs. Love, and I'll never forget her, man. She was just. She was the only one who actually believed in me, man. Like, truly, like, believed me. And I pray one day I can meet her again, because every teacher hated me, and I just needed one to speak life into me. And ironically, her name was Mrs. Love, and she wasn't even a teacher. She was an aide. You know, like, the ones that have, like, the crosswalk stop sign. But they asked her to help with the mentally challenged kids, and it, like, gave her to me. So this girl's not even a teacher, but she, like, spoke so much life into me. We were talking about God because I believed In God. And she was a Mexican lady, and she believed in God, so we would talk about God. Yeah, but I'm in the third grade, bro. This is a young. So, like, she asked me, she goes, well, what do you hope happens, like, when you meet God? And I. And I couldn't answer that. And I waited a day, and I still remember this. And I had a dream that when I met God, I'm, like, sitting there. I can't see God yet. In my vision, I'm just. It looks like I'm looking up at God. And I turn around, and there's more than the eyes could see of people that got introduced to Jesus because of what God used in my life. And so I told her, I said, I came to school the next day, and I said, I know what I want to do before I die. And she goes, what? I go, I want to be used by God. And she just looked at me. She goes, this kid's in the third grade saying this. She's like, okay, yeah, but, like, I'm talking about academics. Like, what do you want to do? And I was like, oh, I don't know. I don't know. I had to think about that, too. But I remember that, like, as a young man, I would always think about God, but that's because my mom and dad raised me that way.

A (21:20)

Yeah.

B (21:21)

Like, my mom would talk me in and tell me that I love you more than anything but God. And I would just sit there being like, look at this little kid. I was like, why do you love God more than me? Like, I'm your son. Like, you know, and she would laugh. She goes, well, I can't love the gift more than the gift giver. So she's like, you're my greatest gift in the world. How can I love you more than the one who gave it to me? And so she would teach me this at a very young age. Wow.

A (21:44)

That dream was like a prophetic image of what God's doing through you now.

B (21:46)

Because I pray. I pray like, like, 1,000%.

A (21:50)

It was a prophetic image. I mean, dude, you're in the third grade. You get a dream of you turning back and looking at what God did through you to point people to him. And now, like, you're bringing the podcast tour, which has encouraged people in many different ways. Not only in the funny, though, because.

B (22:08)

People say that to me, but I truly don't even think of it that way. I think of, like, myself, like, hanging my mess out. I. When I look at myself, like, people talk about me as if, like, I'm more than what I even think in my head. I think in my head is like, I'm a dirty rag, and look what God could do with a dirty rack. And so I'm just trying to point people to, like, what is bringing you so much peace and joy.

A (22:27)

Yes.

B (22:28)

And so when they give me the credit of meeting God, I'm like, yo, you can't fit. Thank. Listen. I used to always joke with them, like, listen, if you're not going to shoot the messenger, don't thank the messenger. I'm not doing anything.

A (22:38)

Yeah.

B (22:38)

I'm receiving blessings, and God is doing so much with me that that alone is my. Is my, like, gratefulness. Like. But everything else, like, if the reason I. Like, I get so uncomfortable taking the responsibility or, like, the. The credit for somebody meeting Jesus is because I also weigh out how many people I probably pushed away from Jesus.

A (22:57)

For sure.

B (22:57)

For sure. That haunts me.

A (22:59)

I totally understand that. I think the reality of social media and things like that. It's just, like, people are always gonna say thank you, even though, like, eat, like, you're humble, carry yourself humbly, and, like, God's, like, looking at your heart. And I remember I had a mentor tell me one time. He's like, look, like. Because I get awkward, like, if we go preach at a church and people like, bro, thank you so much. And I'm like, dude, what?

B (23:23)

I'm like, hey, yo, but I've seen you preach, dude, and it is wild, bro. No, no, I'm not even. I'm not even gonna lie. Like, I remember at the ASU thing, and freaking Cliff just throws me into the wolf then, bro. Like, I wasn't ready. I came to listen to him. That's all I wanted to do. He's like, all right, George got it from here. And I was like, what? And I was like, oh, it's okay. I'm like, bryce is here. I'm like, how good could he be? He just started. And then I started watching you preach. I was like, oh, my God, this kid's a prodigy. I was like, the way you were just pouring out, I was like, oh, no. Jesus is speaking through this man. Like, this is insane. Yeah, this is insane.

A (23:54)

It's. That is. It's literally that, right? G speaks through you on the podcast and speaks through you on tour and speaks through you on the one on ones. I see how you interact with people that come up to you and say, hey, it's. It's so encouraging. And, like, you know, my mentor was like, people are Gonna come and say thank you. And, like, he was like. And I was like, what do you tell him? And he's like, I'll tell you what I do. He says. I look at them and I say, you're welcome. And he's like, in my brain, I mentally take, like, a rose. He's like, I. A mental rose, like, from that person. Like a thank you. He's like, you know, if I'm leaving, you know, let's say, like, 20 people say thank you to him. He mentally takes an individual rose from each of those people. Then he goes home, he gets on his knees, and he gives that mental bouquet of roses to the Lord and says, here's your flowers.

B (24:35)

That's beautiful.

A (24:35)

And I think that's such a beautiful picture, because the reality of it is, it's like, man, people are gonna be grateful for what God's doing through you, and a lot of people are just gonna associate it as being you.

B (24:46)

I cut that from its roots, though, bro. It's when people come up to me and thank me, I go, dude, I have nothing to do with it. I have absolutely nothing. The reason I cut it right there from its roots is because it could quickly be idolatry. They could quickly look at everything that I'm doing and then think that, oh, Jesus is making him do this. So when I sin, if I smoke, if I do anything bad, they'll be like, oh, it's okay. George is doing it. And then I become their idol. And I'm like, no, no, no. I'm like, bro, like, if you felt touched by God, how I see it is this way. It's like any man is a reflection. It's like a mirror. If I position my heart towards the sun and it beams off of me to you, you can't thank me for what the sun is doing. So I always say, don't thank me. It's a reflection. I go, anybody could have a reflection. You could go meet. I had more reflections off of atheists than I've had of godly men. I've seen God more in an atheist man than I've seen in some Christian men, for sure. So, like, from the roots, like, I'll just tell them, like, hey, don't thank me. Like, do not thank me the same way my mom would do that and teach me. Because, bro, they might never get that. And they might go to a false wolf, and they're like, yeah, and by the way, give me 15% or give me this or do this. But if they're like, if they hear it from me, somebody they look up to or they like, yeah. And I go, hey, cut that out. Like, stop. Like, position your things toward the Lord.

A (26:05)

Yeah.

B (26:05)

If you're thankful for me, then thank God that you let me see me or whatever. But, like, I don't think.

A (26:11)

I feel like that's what a lot of people mean. I feel like a lot of people are really just like, man, I'm just so grateful for God using you. But then it just comes across as like, dude, thank you so much. And then you're like. Like, I feel the same way. Like, sometimes I'm like, in my brain, I'm like, oh, my gosh. Like, especially, like, if you're in an environment like tour, when it's like, you're gonna be there, like, like, legitimately, the reality is, is probably everyone is going to be. Or a lot of people there are going to be, like, attempting to thank you. And sometimes it might just be hard to be, like, it could literally explain that to everyone.

B (26:39)

And, you know, well, if it's a performance, I mean, I think you're. An eye tour is different. You really heavily preach. Mine's more like comedy and, like, hanging out with them. So if they. Me for performing, I'm like, that was me that performed. But if it's like a biblical thing, like, if people say, oh, I know Jesus, or like, something about religious aspects of it, like, then I'll just, like, kindly remind them, like, hey, it ain't me. But if they're laughing and they're telling. If I'm telling a joke and they're thanking me for their performance, I'll take that.

A (27:06)

Yeah, I think that's pretty sweet. I can get behind that.

B (27:09)

Yeah.

A (27:09)

Yeah, that's. That's awesome.

B (27:10)

This is. This is. But by the way, this is my young mind dealing with pride because I'm so new to the success that I have right now that, like, my only fear is, bro, like, King Solomon was the smartest man in the world. He gave us proverbs.

A (27:24)

Yep.

B (27:25)

And this dude turned his back against God. So, like, who am I? Like, that's why I cut that right away, because it's such. You know how we were joking about dealing with sin aggressively? Like, bro, like, that's why I hang myself out to dry on my podcast, so I could hold myself accountable. Because if I don't, if I have nobody above me but God, bro, this is where Satan fell short. This is where Adam fell short. This is where David fell short. So I'm like. I'm seeing a repetition of this so I'm just not even letting that enter my heart. Like, I'm not letting it. I try my best not to let it.

A (27:57)

Yeah, I think. I think that's encouraging. I think even that's something. Like, I was encouraged to do that more because of you. I think because of me being encouraged by your vulnerability and things like that, that encouraged me to go, man, I'm just gonna be more open, you know, like, and. And that's. I. I saw myself being more vulnerable and. And. And open and just be like, yeah, I'm struggling with this, or, like, blah, blah. And I. That's a big encouragement. I mean, no one knows the first time we hung out, but you, like.

B (28:28)

Chewed me out, bro. Till this day, I think about that. I've never. I've never done that in my life, and never in my life can I tell that story. Yeah. Yeah, bro. I'm sitting watching this kid, and I'm you. And I'm just having these daydreams of you doing amazing. But I also have this daydream where the, like. It's like the good in life is looking at you, but the bad in life is trying to get to you. And so I'm like. I keep seeing this, like, pride getting in your head. And so I go and I meet you, and I just drill you out. I don't know why I drilled you out. I go, yo, be careful of this. Don't do this. Like, hey, get rid of this. You were telling me things like, I don't want to hear that. This is the first time we've ever met. I walked away. And even my wife looks at me, and she goes, yo, why did you go so hard on this kid? And I said, because heaven and hell are wrestling for him. And I literally walked away. And I sat there with God, and I go, God, I hope my pride didn't get in the way of that. And I sat there and I prayed, and I go, why did I do that? But I felt like the spirit was like, no, I wanted that.

A (29:22)

Well, when you called me next day, I told you that, like, I. I was. I like, being talked to like that. I grew up redneck. So it's just like, you know, it's kind of like how you.

B (29:29)

I think you just. You needed to hear it that way to register. I don't know why, but when you said thank you for that, I was like, oh, okay. Cool. Cool.

A (29:35)

All right.

B (29:36)

We're good.

A (29:36)

Yeah. I felt so bad for Bell, because I think Belfast felt so bad.

B (29:40)

But, yeah, she's like, because she's never seen me talk like that.

A (29:43)

Oh, that was like a woman.

B (29:44)

I've never talked to anybody.

A (29:45)

Like, dang, I'm honored.

B (29:46)

Yeah. No, no. You're the only kid I've ever talked to.

A (29:48)

Let's go. Yeah, I got chewed out by George Jacob. The only one. Let's go, baby bro.

B (29:53)

It's weird because I had this fear of, like, you going down this path, and I was like, yo, I don't know who this kid is, but, like, this kid is gonna be so great for the kingdom, and he's so new. And I knew the success you were about to get is something that greater men than me have fell to. And so I was like, I'm gonna just lay it down on this dude hard so he'll never forget. And, dude, like, you remember it till now, like, yeah, I think the job was done.

A (30:19)

Yeah.

B (30:19)

But by the way, I promise you, I've never talked to anybody, and I do apologize, but.

A (30:23)

No, I mean, I didn't take offense to it. Like, Yeah, I didn't take offense to it at all, because I like being talked to like that. And I think it was just stern. I never want to surround myself with people that are impressed by me because people that are impressed by you won't tell you the truth when you need to hear it, when you should hear. Or even if, like, you know, like, I'm not even doing something. And my, like, one of my close friends, like Dylan Chris, they just, like, remind me, like, hey, bro, like, just be cautious of this thing. Like, I know they're not impressed by me. You know, they don't care. And that. That's, like, an encouragement. I knew the moment that we met, I was like, dang, George. George isn't impressed by me. And I enjoy that. That's someone I want to surround myself with, is someone that's impressed by. I mean, not impressed by me while.

B (31:07)

You think of it that way, because that was the only reason why I sat down with you because I was extremely impressed by it.

A (31:13)

Oh, really?

B (31:13)

Yeah.

A (31:14)

Oh.

B (31:14)

I looked at you, and I was. I was like, wow, this kid is gonna be something insane. And by the way, I don't. Correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think you got he at the time. I don't think you were fired up, like, the way you are now. Like, you have a lot of people.

A (31:29)

Definitely. Wait, like, he is in, like, what kind of heat? Like.

B (31:32)

Like, you weren't as famous.

A (31:35)

I. I think you. I think we met, like, right before things popped off. Yeah, bro.

B (31:41)

I'm telling you, when I met you, I was like, bro, this kid's gonna pop off. I was like, I don't know what it is. Like, when I was watching you preach, I was like, oh. I go, this kid got it. Like, they're. There's something. And I didn't know about your Waffle House story or anything. I didn't know what God was doing in your life, but something in my heart was like, go talk to this kid and make sure he knows about this. And I was like, all right. So I took time out of my day to go meet some kid I never heard of in my life. And I sat down with you. And when I sat down with you, all of a sudden I just got. My heart started racing and I started preaching out this message to you. But it's so funny. The way it was happening was kind of like if you watch the Andrew Tate episode.

A (32:16)

Yeah.

B (32:16)

When I watch that back, I don't remember speaking like that. I don't remember talking like that, man.

A (32:21)

You. That was so encouraging. Like, just. Sorry. Just side note, like, you. That conversation was impacting me deeply.

B (32:27)

That happened, like, the Jordan Peterson episode that just happened. There's times where, like, I'll watch it back, and I'm like, I don't even remember me saying that at all. That's how I felt when I was talking to you that one day.

A (32:36)

Yeah.

B (32:37)

So, like, I don't remember what I said, but I remember it was like.

A (32:40)

Bro, I'm really thinking about. Because we were eating pizza at that outdoor area shoot, Sherman Oaks duty. I wish. I kind of wish I had a video of it because it was so funny. But, like, George was, like, laying into me, and then, like, a kid, like, came up and like, like, like, wanted to say hey to George, and you, like, you, like, like, like, zoomed out and we're, like, super intentional with him. And then after he left, you zoom back in on me again, and I.

B (33:07)

Was like, oh, shoot.

A (33:08)

Like, like, what is going on? It was so funny. But I am really grateful for that. And I think, like. Like, I get what you mean when you say, like, you were, like, impressed, but you get what I mean when I say, like, people that are impressed by you.

B (33:21)

I'm not a yes man.

A (33:23)

Yes. I don't care about yes.

B (33:24)

I'm just trying to make sure that you're on the right path.

A (33:26)

Yeah, those are. Those are the people that I want to be surrounded with. Now you're not in LA anymore.

B (33:30)

Yeah, well, I do.

A (33:31)

You come in and out, but, like, not like you're not full time. You're in Arizona now.

B (33:35)

Yeah.

A (33:36)

And was there, like, just a particular reason why. Why you moved to Arizona?

B (33:40)

My mom. So 10 years ago? Well, technically now, almost 12 years ago, but I. I moved to Arizona two years ago. Not in the house, but I got an apartment. I moved back, but 10 years ago. Sorry. When I moved out here, we're unboxing, and on the TV is Jennifer Lawrence, and she's speaking about being on the Hunger Games or whatever, and she says something to an interview, and she goes, give yourself 10 years. She looks up, my mom looks at me, she goes, God will complete you in 10 years from now. She goes, and you'll be successful enough to buy her a place next to me because I'll miss you. So please, when that time comes, be there. And 10 years later, I was able to buy a place, like, right next to her.

A (34:28)

You guys live right next to each other.

B (34:30)

She's five minutes down the road from me, bro. That's the reason why I bought it.

A (34:33)

I didn't even know that.

B (34:34)

Yeah, that's literally the reason why.

A (34:36)

That's so crazy.

B (34:37)

Yeah. I'm so close to my mom and dad, and, like, bro, she, like, recharged me, like, when I was in this industry. And, like, if you hear the way that these people would speak in Hollywood, it filled me up. And, like, I started thinking and seeing and talking like them. Then when I go back home, she'd be like, excuse me. And then just wash me up and then send me back to where I needed to be. Wow. It was like my. It's like my healing camp.

A (34:59)

Yeah.

B (35:00)

And so then when I got to the level where I'm at now, I was like, oh, I need to be there a lot more than out here now. So, like, if I'm. If I'm coming to influence, if I'm going to be an influencer, then I got to make sure I know what I'm influencing, and I'm not being influenced. So that was. But I have a funny story about my. My house.

A (35:16)

Yeah. I want to hear, bro, which I love your house, by the way. It was so fun. And when we did the Avengers podcast in your living room, you guys made it look like Greece. Yeah, it looked like. So, like, what a coliseum.

B (35:29)

You know how, like, everybody has, like, a materialistic thing that they love in their heart?

A (35:32)

Yeah.

B (35:33)

I've always wanted a home that's big, that people could come and rest, recover. I could have gatherings there because I watched my mom and dad do that for everybody.

A (35:41)

Yeah.

B (35:42)

All holidays were near us dinners, neighborhood people would come. I just watched them always do that. And throughout 10 years, I'd always save up money and, like, make sure that I'm doing right with my money so that God could bless me with more money. And eventually, in my heart, I was like, oh, like, I think. I think I'm ready to buy a house, like, near where my mom and dad is. I'm going, all these houses. I'm looking at all these houses. Nothing. I don't feel anything. Yeah. I was like, okay, maybe I should buy a little bit more expensive house. So I looked at this house, and it's like, I don't know. Then I look at this house, like, oh, I don't know. Then I walk into the house that I'm in right now. I'm walking up the stairs. I have no neighbors. It's like a very desert. You saw that, right? But across from me, far from me, it's a huge church. Right at the entrance of the door, you just see a big cross. And I looked, and, bro, I had this, like, feeling of a spirit that I was like, this is your home. Before I walked in to look at this house, I felt this. So I'm like, all right. Now, mind you, if we're going to be real, I feel that all the time sometimes, and it doesn't really happen. You know what I mean? Like, so I was like, I'm going to take this with a grain of salt. So I walk in, and my mom would always tell me, if we're going to negotiate. She goes, just make sure, you know, you don't seem too impressed at the house. But my mom would walk in and go, wow. Oh, no. Oh, it's okay. Like, you, like, did you get caught off guard? We walk around the house. It was beautiful. I walk up to the real estate agent that she was doing an open house, and I said, excuse me, I'd like to put in an offer, please. And she goes, I'm sorry, we're done. And I was like, what? He's like, yeah. Like, we have so many offers right now. We're not taking any more offers. I'm so sorry. This is like two days later. And I'm like, what? So I go home to my mom. I was like, mom, this is so weird. And she goes, what? I go, I swear, I felt like that was my house. Like, it was weird. I was picturing myself praying in there and worshiping in there. Like, it was weird. Like, I. I, like, saw the house that I was like, in So I have no home.

A (37:43)

Yeah.

B (37:44)

And at the time, I'm also looking for a church, because I grew up in a church, but I kind of feel like I want to go to a different church. I feel like God's calling me to. To be like, you know, I don't know. Like, it.

A (37:58)

Yeah.

B (37:58)

That's a little complicated of a story.

A (38:00)

But I get what you're saying.

B (38:01)

I. I just. In my heart, I'm like, you know, like, maybe. Like, maybe I'm wrong at the moment, but at the time, my heart's drawing me a little bit out. So I don't have a church that I'm going to, and I'm weeping to God. I'm like, God, I have no home. I got no church home. Like, I need a home. Weeks go by. I get a call from somebody, and they're like, hey, do you want to meet Donald Trump? And I'm like, what? And they're like, yeah, you have the opportunity. He wants to shake hands with you. Take a picture. He goes, do you want to do this? And I was like. I was like, wait, wait. Donald Trump wants to meet me? And they were like, yeah. And I was like, yeah, duh. That would be awesome. I would love to be. Okay. We got him on the podcast. They're like, we'll try. I was like. So I'm just pushing for this, and I forget about the house completely. I'm so sorry. I forgot one part of the story.

A (38:50)

Yeah.

B (38:51)

Yeah. We're looking at another house. This is when I gave up on looking at houses. I found this other house that I'm looking at. I'm like, maybe my dad would like this. Maybe this is it. So I send him the address. He calls me. He goes, I'm outside. I go, what are you talking about? I'm outside. You're not here. He goes, I don't know. I'm at this house. You sent me this house. I'm here. And I send the address again. He goes, oh, what the heck? I'm eight minutes away. I'll see you soon. Remember this story, okay? Okay. So then I go to Shoot Supply. I'm getting a suit. I'm getting dressed out. Now I'm not even thinking about the house.

A (39:21)

Right?

B (39:21)

I'm just thinking about meeting Donald Trump. Right. I go to sleep that night, and all I keep thinking about is, like, God, please, like, when I meet him, like, make sure I'm, like, thinking about you. I'm not thinking about anything else. If I need to talk to him about. I'm just prepping myself for Donald Trump. I go to sleep. I wake in my dream. I wake up in this dream, and there's a bright light in front of me, and I have to bow my head in front of him, and I'm weeping. And he goes, I've given you your homes. I wake up, I forget. And Belle goes, how do you sleep? As soon as she says, how did you sleep? I remember my dream, and I go, belle, God said I have my home. As soon as it left my mouth, I get a call from the real estate agent. I answer. She goes, hey, that house fell through. She goes, do you want it? She goes, but I'm wearing a suit right now, and I gotta go meet Trump. So I go, yeah, but I got to go meet somebody real quick. Can I meet you afterwards? She goes, yeah, I'll hold it down. And I go, okay. I go meet Trump. Where I meet Trump, I learned three weeks later, was the church that I attend to now. Oh, and the church is called Dream City. Then I go to the real estate to meet the house or the lady at the house. I go in there, we make an offer. My dad rushes because we want to inspect the house before we do all that stuff. He comes in, he goes, oh, George, this is the house that I showed up at when you sent me that address. Wow. So God took him there randomly in front of that house. And so the day that I had the dream, I walked through God's house that he wanted me to worship at. Wow. And then after I walked through the house that he wanted me to worship at, he let me walk through the home that I have now all in the dream that I had too.

A (41:07)

Crazy.

B (41:08)

It was weird, bro.

A (41:08)

Crazy.

B (41:09)

God, it was really cool, bro. Now every time I'm in there, I'm just like, I'll have, like, fears in my heart. I'm like, oh, what if I, like, you don't make it. And, like, I can't afford this house anymore. I'm like, bro, like, what am I? Why am I? The devil always tries to steal your joy. I'm like, dude, the dude gave me a dream, bro. If he's going to take it, it's for his will. Then let him take it for sure. But yeah, it's every time I walk into that house, bro. Like, I just sit there and I worship and I just go, this is crazy. Like, I. And by the way, I don't think I have any, like, powers or anything, but I think because I just focus so much and I have so much faith that I'm Able to see things and feel things that majority of people can't because they're so focused on the world, if that makes any sense.

A (41:47)

Yeah, bro, I think you got great spiritual gifts, and I think you're sharp. Yeah, that's crazy, bro.

B (41:51)

Yes.

A (41:52)

Praise God. And that's going to be the. That's going to be the house that you, like, raise the family in.

B (41:56)

You know, my mom said the other day, and I was like, it's so funny. I've never really been attached to things. So, like, I love the house and I think it's beautiful, but if God was like, hey, you got to bounce tomorrow and live in a smaller house or an apartment or, like, even go to a bigger house, like. Yeah, I have no attachments to things, bro.

A (42:10)

Yeah. Yeah.

B (42:11)

Like, it's so weird. I've never had attachments to things.

A (42:13)

That's so cool.

B (42:14)

Well, my mom and dad sent me down. Down to move out of our family home. I was, like, excited. I was like, oh, we're leaving? Where are we going? And they're like, you're not sad? I go, no. You know why? Because I. When I was on a plane, I got really sad one day when I looked down and I saw all these homes and all these people. And I was young and I cried, and my mom goes, why are you crying? I go, look at all these people we'll never meet. She goes, why does that affect you? I said, bro, this world, we only have this much amount of time, and people stay in the same four walls. Wow. And I'm like, that's wild to me. Go outside and meet somebody. Go outside into a different country. Go. If you're living in one area and you're like, hey, I feel stuck and anxious, dude. It's probably because you're not supposed to be there anymore and you're too scared to leave. Get up, Leave. Sell your possessions. Now I understand when God said, sell your possessions and go preach. And the guy walked away weeping because he knew he couldn't is because he was a slave to the possessions that he had.

A (43:08)

Yeah.

B (43:08)

And, bro, I pray to God I will never be ever in my life a slave to my possessions. Bro, these are all going to collect moth and rust, and I don't want to be collecting that. I'd rather collect the treasures in the kingdom. So if God says, hey, get up and go to Africa, then I'll go up and go to Africa. If he's saying, hey, I want you to live in a beautiful neighborhood, then I'll go up and live in A beautiful neighborhood, wherever he wants me to go, then I pray that I go.

A (43:32)

That's so cool. So encouraging. Yeah, I think everyone, I think again, like that open handed life that you live is so encouraging.

B (43:40)

It's freedom, bro.

A (43:41)

It's freedom. And it's like, it's literally, you know, I want to encourage you because I know, I know that you encourage me a lot, so I want to encourage you. I, I feel like oftentimes our biggest strengths as humans in character, qualities are the things that we beat ourselves up the most about. Yeah, and I really want to encourage you, man. Like, you are a man that is humble and carries himself in humility. And like, I see that in you because I, I love, I love your zeal for being like, man, you know, I hate pride. Pride sucks, you know, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like right there with you. But man, like, you're incredibly humble and encourages me.

B (44:19)

Thank you, bro.

A (44:19)

I appreciate you. What are, what are like some goals coming up with the podcast that, like.

B (44:26)

Dude, you know, my whole life, dude, I've been just, I want this to be like this. I want this to be. And then when I look back, God has blessed me with like, directions. I just go places and I flow in. In the Bible, I think it's in Revelations, but they describe life like smoke. And it could be one thing one day and then completely something else immediately. So I'm not going to. I, like, I stopped. I know it sounds crazy and a lot of people might disagree with me, but I stopped planning my futures. I just think about today and what I think God wants me to deal with in the future. But I don't set stones in the future. What my dreams are right now is that I just, I'm a performer. I can make movies and TV shows, you can make music. I could do all these things. Some are going to be for the glory of God and some are just going to be art forms that could just be like fishermen or. I go out into the world and people are like, oh, I like that work. And then they could go visit my work for God. You know what I mean? So I just want to go out and create just the way that my father was creating. He was a carpenter for a reason. He liked to create things. And I just, I just want to create. And in a few years, God willing, the projectory, like in the next two years, I won't have any debt at all. Like, no homes will have debt, no cars will have debt, no nothing will have debt. And everything I'll make will be a bonus. And I just pray that God will use me to. If he's going to put money in my hand, that I pray that I put it in the hands that need it. And if he's going to put fame in my hands, I pray that I am exposed and influencing in things that need to be. And if he needs to humble me in front of the world, and that's the scariest part, then I pray that it opens the eyes of others so they don't need to be humbled. But whatever he needs to use me for, I'm in. Because every time I tell him what I want, I always suffer. And every time I ask for his will, I thrive. So, like, I'm just don't plan anymore, man. I'm just living in today and asking for today my daily bread and. And just thanking Him. But, yeah, every time I look towards the future, I got super anxious. Every time I looked at the past, I got depressed. So I think that the reason present is called present is because it's a present from God, and I just want to cherish that gift and not take it for granted.

A (46:40)

Dang. Encouraging. I appreciate you so much, dude. Thanks for coming on the podcast. I appreciate you a ton. I love talking with you and catching up with you and. Yeah, I'm just grateful for you and just so grateful for what God is doing through you. And thank you for just being willing and saying yes to everything God's doing.

B (46:59)

Thanks, man. Yeah, I appreciate you, bro.

A (47:01)

Yeah, thanks.

B (47:02)

How old are you, dude?

A (47:03)

21.

B (47:05)

When I was 21, I was a Benihana chef.

A (47:07)

No way.

B (47:08)

Yeah.

A (47:09)

Out here.

B (47:09)

No, I was 20 when I was a banana chef out here. No. Yeah, I was Benihana chef. No, no, no. In Arizona.

A (47:14)

Oh, you know, they don't have yum yum sauce there.

B (47:17)

Yeah, bro. I hated people like you. That's it. You go, yum yum sauce. I'm like, bro, no, I don't got yum yum sauce, dude.

A (47:22)

That's the best stuff.

B (47:23)

Yum yum sauce.

A (47:24)

Yeah, Yum yum.

B (47:25)

I don't have people that ask for extra. Like, garlic butter. No, no more garlic, bro. I'm like, bro, you're gonna have diabetes, dude. Chill out.

A (47:31)

Yum yum's the best, bro.

B (47:33)

I've never even had it.

A (47:34)

Really. It will change your life.

B (47:36)

But it's called yum yum sauce, dude.

A (47:38)

It's so good. If you get the chance. Wait, do you guys have a show in Atlanta?

B (47:42)

Yes.

A (47:43)

I'm gonna send you a hibachi spot to go to.

B (47:46)

You're from Atlanta.

A (47:47)

I'm from North Georgia.

B (47:48)

Yeah. Atlanta, Georgia. Yeah. Sorry, my brain just went so bad with geography.

A (47:54)

I'm gonna send you a hibachi spot that you got to go to.

B (47:57)

Cool.

A (47:57)

You have to go there, though.

B (47:58)

Okay. All right.

A (47:59)

Deal?

B (48:00)

Okay, deal.

A (48:00)

Amen. All right. That's how you end. Thanks, guys, for watching. Appreciate you guys. Guys, thank you so much for watching and listening to this episode. If you guys like it, subscribe to us on YouTube. Follow us on Spotify, Instagram, Instagram, and TikTok. Bless you guys and see you guys next week for the next episode.