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Hey, it's Will Salitan from the Bulwark. So you may have heard that Republicans got a hold of Anthony Fauci's diary, and this week they dragged him into a hearing in the Senate and they went after him. They said he got everything wrong in Covid and he ruined everyone's life and he was a terrible person. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to set the record straight. I'm going to show you some of the lies they told. I'm going to show you how completely dishonest they are. Okay, let's start with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. The Secretary of Health. On Monday, Kennedy gave an interview to Laura Ingraham on Fox News. And he said Fauci's diary shows that Fauci. Fauci got a pulmonary infarction, a blood clot in his lung from the Moderna COVID vaccine.
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He got vaccinated. A very, very public press conference in January of 2020. And then five months later he had, and this is the first time that we knew this from the diary. He had a pulmonary infarction, which is one of the adverse events that nih, CDC and FDA said are expected from the vaccine.
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Okay, so first of all, Kennedy is. He's just lying when he claims that these agencies list pulmonary infarction as an expected side effect from the vaccine. Here is the CDC's list of common side effects from the vaccines. Soreness, fatigue, headache, fever. I don't know about you, but I got a little bit of fever from one of my vaccinations. That happens a lot. It's part of the reaction sometimes when your immune system responds to a vaccine. But here's the point. There's nothing about pulmonary infarction on this list. Kennedy told you there was, but there isn't. In fact, pulmonary infarction is not an expected adverse event from the vaccines. Why did Kennedy say it was? Because that's what he does. He makes things up. Okay, second point. Kennedy said Fauci got the blood clot five months after he got vaccinated. You don't get a blood clot from a shot five months after you got the shot. There's tons of research that shows that vaccine side effects, when they happen, happen within hours or days or at most weeks. And this is really important because one of the things that you're going to hear over and over from Kennedy and Laura Ingraham and other people who oppose the COVID shots is that anything bad that happens to anybody anytime after the shot was caused by the shot. They think that's proof that the shots are dangerous. And this example where Kennedy confidently tells you that a blood clot five months later after the shot, came from the shot, illustrates why you can't trust these people and anything they say about so called vaccine injuries. And by the way, in case you thought that Kennedy knew anything about health or science, let me show you what he told Sean Hannity on Wednesday about Fauci and his blood clot.
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Then he got one of the primary, most expected adverse events, which was potentially deadly blood clots in his lung, mitocardial infarction.
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Now, I don't know where to begin with this. There's no such thing as a mitochondrial infarction. Now, there are mitochondria in your cells. That's a completely different thing. And there's something called a myocardial infarction, better known as a heart attack. Anyone who knows anything about medicine would know that a pulmonary infarction which happens in the lungs is different from a myocardial infarction which happens in the heart. Why did Kennedy get it mixed up? Because he's a complete ignoramus. And it's bad enough that Donald Trump made this idiot the Secretary of Health, but what makes it worse is you now have an entire TV network, Fox News, spreading the same lies. For example, here is Jesse Waters, who has a primetime show on Fox, talking about Fauci.
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He actually had a vaccine injury at one point, and then he lied and said the vaccine's fine.
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Meanwhile, he had a clot, a vaccine injury. Waters says Fauci's clot was definitely a, a vaccine injury. Millions and millions of Americans are watching Fox News and they're being fed these lies. Okay, here's another one from Waters about Fauci's diary.
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His favorite word, though not N95 or natural immunity. Those words barely uttered. It was press, press.
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Oh, honey, let me show you Dr. Fauci talking about about N95s.
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But you've got to get a well fitted mask that has of a high quality. And the two we know are high quality are an N95 or a KN95. So it's a combination. The best mask you can get and the order of gradation is N95. Clearly the best KN95. Next, multiple ply surgical masks, then cloth masks if you get a good fit. Well, if you can tolerate an N95, do it.
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Nobody talked more about N95s than Fauci did. So why would Waters tell you that Fauci didn't talk about N95s. The answer is Waters is looking at Fauci's diary. A diary is where you put your private thoughts. Kennedy, Kennedy and the Republican senators and Fox News are telling you Fauci is a bad guy because he talked about himself in his diary, which, hello, is what a diary is. Now, in public. Fauci didn't talk about himself in public. He talked about stuff like N95s because that was his job. But Waters doesn't want to tell you that. Waters wants to talk about the diary, not the public record. Look, it's not Fauci who wanted to tell everybody about his personal life. It's these scumbags who dug up the diary and plastered it all over tv. The dishonesty on Fox is just incredible. Let me show you another example. Here is Ingraham on Monday.
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America's doctor was a liar, a megalomaniac, a phony, and a total narcissist all rolled into one. Take what he said about the virus's lethality.
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The stated mortality overall of this, when you look at all the data, including China, is about 3%.
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3%. That's really bad. But in his private diary, only five weeks earlier, he admitted that the virus was not that lethal.
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3%. She says Fauci said 3%. But now I'm going to show you the part of his statement she cut off.
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The stated mortality overall of this, when you look at all the data, including China, is about 3%. It first started off as 2 and now 3. I think if you count all the cases of minimally symptomatic or asymptomatic infection, that probably brings the mortality rate down to somewhere around 1%.
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Well, how about that? He was quoting the 3% so he could explain why that number was way too high. But Ingraham wanted to pretend that Fauci, that Fauci exaggerated the mortality rate. So she clipped out just the part she wanted. Another example of why you can't trust anything these people say. And while we're on the subject of taking things out of context, check out what these guys said about schools. They claim that Fauci is the guy who kept kids out of school long after it was clear that children were the people at lowest risk from COVID Now, first of all, that is one of the biggest falsehoods of the whole pandemic. Fauci constantly, constantly said that kids should go back to school. Here he is in June of 2020. This is before school districts made their decisions about whether to bring kids back in the fall.
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Those are the kind of things that we need to consider, but also importantly, always make the goal that it is very important to get the children back to school for the unintended negative consequences that occur when we keep them out of school.
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I could show you dozens, dozens of other times Fauci made that point. But FOX doesn't want you to know about it. They want to talk about an entry in Fauci's diary where he wrote about closing the schools.
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In his diary, he was bragging about shutting down the country. I spoke with Bill de Blasio, mayor of New York City, and convinced him, based on what I was saying publicly and my conversation tonight, to close the NYC schools.
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Huh. Did you notice something missing there? Did you see a date on that quote? No. And did you hear Waters mention the date? No. Well, maybe that's because Fauci wrote that on March 15, 2020. That's not when schools were deciding whether to open for the fall or for the next two years. It was at the very beginning of the pandemic when everybody, including Trump, agreed that we should shut everything down for 15 days to see if we could stop the spread. But then within a couple of months, as I showed you, Fauci was telling Congress we should do everything we can to get the kids back to school.
Title: Will Catches Fox Lying About Fauci—Again
Date: August 2, 2026
Host: Will Saletan, The Bulwark
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This episode centers on the misleading and false claims propagated by Fox News and prominent figures like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. about Dr. Anthony Fauci’s handling of the COVID-19 pandemic. Will Saletan systematically debunks these fabrications and clarifies Fauci’s actual record, using direct quotes, official documentation, and contextual evidence.
Jesse Watters and Vaccine Injury
Mask & N95 Claims
Will Saletan thoroughly dissects a set of Fox News and Republican talking points about Anthony Fauci, illuminating each instance of misrepresentation and distortion—whether it’s health outcomes, basic science, masking, mortality, or schools. He carefully matches each accusation with fact-checked public statements and primary-source evidence, highlighting how media figures cherry-pick, misquote, and mislead. The tone is direct, urgent, and sometimes scathing, intent on revealing the persistent dishonesty—and why, Saletan says, “you can’t trust anything these people say about so-called vaccine injuries.”
This episode is a pointed, evidence-driven rebuttal of false narratives about the pandemic and about Dr. Fauci, offering listeners both clarity and a toolkit to recognize similar distortions in the media.