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Hey everyone, it is Mag Monday. I'm with Will Sommer, fresh off of being on the mall. You're on the mall till what, 2:00am, 3:00am Hardly.
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Hardly.
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You didn't go?
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No. It looks like hell on earth.
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I thought you were like super into these types of things, but I guess not. I guess you'd have hate America.
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Well, I actually am really into these things. A younger Will definitely would have gone. And I, even after the kids were asleep and everything, I was like, well, this thing doesn't kick off till 11pm I could kind of sneak down. But, you know, I wiped out.
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I started getting a little anxious around 6pm on July 4th when we got the first alert that weather was going to be a problem and that people had to leave the mall because I thought to myself, well, that's not going to be easy to do to get them all out and then to get them all back in. And then like, you know, Trump was going to be cavalier about the weather and he, he admitted it. He's like, you know, I just overrode the recommendations to shut it down because what's a little lightning? I got r. Really anxious that we could have had some, some real calamity. And I think we largely avoided it, but the whole thing itself was kind of a calamity.
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Yeah, I mean, obviously this is the big story is the debacle, whatever. I mean, I, you know, I heard you talking with Bill about this yesterday. It strikes me as kind of a classic Trump thing where it's like disaster, disaster, disaster. And then like they kind of pull something out at the end and people go, I guess the thing overall was just fine. Kind of like the Iran war, right? Where it's like, okay, I guess it's over now in this case. You know, it's what was striking to me was, you know, we've been talking for a week plus about, you know, what a mess the Great American State Fair was. You know, there was nothing to do. There were roving, you know, Uncle Sam sickos. There were all these things going on. And then when finally kind of the big flood of MAGA people get there and they start saying, wait a minute, this thing stinks. I mean, I was seeing, I was seeing various right wing people being like, I don't understand, you know what? There's no shade. In this case. There was, you know, look, there's no shade. Well, not really.
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I mean, I know there was no shade. It's the mall.
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Yeah, well, you know, you could set up some tents or something. Theoretically, there was, look I mean, you know, when I got married, it wasn't the most elaborate. It certainly wasn't as elaborate as the Great American State Fair, but we had a rain plan. Now, in this case, you know, there was apparently no rain plan. They were just like, I don't know, can you go to the Voice of America building? I mean, it was, it was a huge mess.
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All right, let's back up a little bit. So the, the thing that really started popping online was when they discovered the weather and that it was gonna be hot, which, you know, it didn't take a genius to sort of know that it was going to be super hot because you can get 10 day forecasts at this point in time in your life, thank God. And it was like, yeah, there's a heat dome going to be descending on Washington D.C. it's going to be about like 100, but it's going to feel about 110. And you should prepare. And, you know, I prepared by not going, but others could have prepared, but instead there was this kind of subterranean discussion, I guess not subterranean because it popped up into the, into view about whether the weather was geoengineered to take, to take down the America 250. So, Kylie Kramer, is that how you pronounce it? You would know.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Okay. I don't know if we have the truth, but Kylie Kramer started off by saying, I'm telling y' all that someone with an extreme case of TDS, that's Trump Derangement Syndrome, geoengineered this weather in D.C. same way they geoengineered Trump's inauguration to be one of the coldest in US History. People with TDS hate Trump more than they love America. Do they really believe that, like some group of deep state actors are doing like weather balloon thing and they're trying to get it really hot and cold, just depending on how to fuck with Trump. Is that like an honest to God belief in their brains?
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Yes, it is. Yes, it is. And you know, this woman's backstory. I mean, this isn't some random wacko we found. It's a prominent wacko. I mean, this is the lady I believe. Women's for Trump. Trump. Women for Trump. She organized the rally on the ellipse that preceded January 6th though the riot. And so this is like a relatively prominent Republican activist. And I think this weather stuff, this has become such a belief. You think about Marjorie Taylor Greene talking about the Jewish space lasers, Right? The idea is that every event, everything is connected, everything has a hidden hand behind it. So in this case, One of the most classic random things, the weather that no human can control. It goes without saying that there's the deep state is behind it.
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It's always the Jews. Lest you think that it was Kylie alone, we have a couple other examples of this. Let's pull up the Rosie Mamos tweet here. All right. She says, side note, there was absolute. There was absolute sabotage. It should be investigated why there was a bogus weather call, why they shut down every checkpoint, and why no one knew from new what the world was happening. I guess that's not saying they engineered the weather just so much as they.
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Yeah, I want to talk about Rosie Memo. She's got an interesting character. I think she's a QAnon person I followed from, like, you know, eight years ago or something. And I've been watching her journey. And so in this case, she went to the Great American State Fair and she was walking around being like, this thing is a dump. Why did I do this? This is such an organizational disaster. My highlight was after people got kicked out because of the weather delay, she went up to the Secret Service and showed them Trump's tweet that was like, the party's back on. And they said. They said she was lying and had made a fake tweet and, you know, off, you know. And so.
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So what happened in this case?
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You can see the time Zamp here. This is obviously after the fireworks, after it was somewhat salvaged. So she was saying, you know, darn you, Trump administration. What is the disaster? And now she's saying, well, you know, I guess it was the NWS National Weather Service. They tricked us because they hate Trump so much.
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She knows that the Trump administration controls the nws, though. So this is, you know, this is a whole thing. It's like, oh, and this happened with the Patriot Front stuff too, which we talked about. Bill and I talked about yesterday, where it was just like, oh, man. You know, Patriot Front. These neo Nazis showed up and the Union Station and they started marching and they're stupid khakis. I hate those stupid khakis. You could see, like, they were so sweaty. Like, a lot of them had, like, legitimate. And there's no other way to phrase this, they had butt sweat in their khakis because it was really hot and they're wearing khakis and they got a face mask and all their stupid gear. But, like, the whole thing was like, oh, the Feds. The feds are there. Like, I know someone said the feds are things. The Daily yr CEO was like, oh, it's the Feds. And then other people were like, oh, it's Hill staffers and like other people, like, it's the feds and Southern Poverty Law Center. And it's like, dude, at some point that there has to be some recognition that Donald Trump is the federal government, that these people are being, being run by the Trump administration. But that doesn't seem to compute. Like, how would the Feds be infiltrating a patriot front and doing this if not for Donald Trump? I don't understand the logic.
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The Southern Poverty Law center, after, even after being fed, you know, they'll never stop. In this case, it is kind of a, it's a classic Trump thing where it's like they're like, Trump, he's the man. He's this, you know, he's this world historical figure. At the same time, he's easily duped by his advisors, the bad advisors. Or in this case, I mean, the idea that like a rogue faction of the FBI is secretly running a white supremacist organization, you know, flouting Cash Patel, all this stuff would be a big scandal and it would suggest maybe Cash Patel should be fired, among other things. And yet they're just like, it's the nws. I mean, I think this was a real good microcosm of like, you know, at least a good part of maga. People just do not live in the real world. You know, later on when they are told to evacuate them all, they are arguing with the Secret Service. There was a guy saying, you know, I refuse to leave. George Washington crossed the Delaware with all his men at trench foot and smallpox. And now they want us to leave for a little rain. You know, this idea that just like I can will this thing into existence, I don't have to exist in the real world.
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It is true. The bar is so low. I think people are like comparing this to like storming the beaches in Normandy, right? It's like, yeah, you had to delay it a couple hours and then you like took the stage. I'm not, not going to compare this one to World War II. And yet there was another great dispatch from the Times. Again, back to the weather being controlled by the Jews or someone. Here we go. This is a reporter for the Times who's on the Mall, reporting from the mall at 7:45 ish pm when she tweets this or post this, I should say it's a chaotic scene on the National Mall. Several hundred people refused to leave despite an order to evacuate because of severe storms approaching. An officer Sternly repeating the evacuation order over a bullhorn. And the crowd is booing. Many begun chanting, usa. Usa. One man blamed the situation on, quote, liberals in the weather service, adding, quote, I think this is baloney. So, yeah, people had to leave. They. They took cover in, as you said, the Voice of America building. The. The other one that tickled me was the African American Museum was, you know, 5,000 or so people just kind of hanging out there. They. They made it back. They did make it back. They did the fireworks, but first. And then. I'm sorry, they did the fireworks and then Trump spoke. Do I have the sequence right? That's right.
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No, no. Trump spoke and then the fireworks.
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And then the fireworks. Uh, the fireworks are pretty cool. I'll give them that. I said, I gave him the K Bill show. Except if you were in Virginia, because then it just looked like an absolute cloud of smoke and haze and like, the Capitol was being absolutely bombarded. I don't know. Did you wake up on Sunday and go outside, by any chance, or. Sorry, was it Saturday? No, it was Sunday.
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I went outside as little as I could, you know. Yes. DC recorded the worst air quality in the world.
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In the world.
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Worse than, like, Karachi, Pakistan, or Jakarta, Indonesia? The worst possible. You know, I will say I was out watching the street fireworks. D.C. has a thriving street fireworks scene. They were going pop, pop, pop, pop. So, yes, I was watching that, and I think it was a good, as you said, it was, good fireworks display. But it's kind of a classic Trump thing where we're like, you know, I feel like we really have to lower our standards where it's like, you know, oh, I like the fireworks, I guess, you know, it's kind of like you've seen one firework, you've seen them all.
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No.
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Oh, my God. I saw you talking about this with Bill, and I was like, I'm coming hot. Yeah. You know.
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Why are you anti fireworks?
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You know, I'm not anti fireworks, I guess. I mean, I mentioned the illegal ones. I like the illegal frison of, like, you know, shooting them off, you know, with the man, you know, it won't be happy about it, but at the same time, you know, I. I guess I. From this fireworks show that Trump did, I wish for a little more variety. It was sort of like, well, Normally we have eight go off at once, and this time we'll have 20 go off at once.
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All right.
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Wow.
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You're like, I feel like you're into drones. The drone shows more.
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Did you see the drone farting one? Is that real. This wasn't July 4th. This was recently, though. A couple things I wanted to flag about the July 4th festivities. There was also. The Times initially reported that there was, like, a stampede, and then they cut that line. But this is interesting. There was an apparent attempt to rush the stage because people like James o', Keefe, Emily Miller, all conservative figures, said that there was like, basically when they were being told to leave, people were like, screw that. We're rushing the stage. And so there was kind of like a mini stampede. Some people got knocked. Unfortunately, it seems like it was all.
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Okay, well, you mentioned Emily Miller. She had a really hilarious dispatch. Emily Miller, for people to know. Longtime conservative voice. She's been doing some sort of, like, I don't know, reporting, I suppose you think it's performance art, Even from the reflecting pool. Yeah.
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So she's kind of the big, like. The reflecting pool rules that the antifa. Cut it up. Whatever. She's very, like, sycophantic to the guys who do the sealant. She's just like, I'm doing. But you know, what's interesting about her videos is they appear to sort of exist in a realm beyond, like, empirical evidence. And so she'll say, like, here's proof that the antifa did it. And she shows kind of like a collage of images, and it's like, I don't know, what am I supposed to be looking at here? So the. You know, it's interesting. And so in this case, she's on the mall because she's, like, the mall's number one fan.
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Before we get into it, like, does she just spend her entire time on the mall now?
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Yeah, she's called the running reporter. This is because she runs. I guess she jogs on the mall. And so that's why she's always around to, you know, film the contractors or film the antifa.
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But she's not like, is she selfieing it or is she, like, out of someone down there, like, to help film it?
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Because I think it's just her. I don't think the budget these days includes, you know, she was once a local news reporter, but I don't think she has a cameraman these days.
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Okay, go on. Sorry I interrupted you. Go on.
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So she filmed herself getting booted out of the mall by the Secret Service as they were herding everyone out. And let's just. She finds an unusual source of sustenance. Let's play that clip. Then a bunch of really psycho people, my fellow citizens, started running to the seats. Crazy. As if running Away from something, which was my first instinct about the whole situation. I'm eating potato chips that somebody left half empty because I'm not hungry. So she's an unusual figure, sort of a magpie, if you will. She kind of hops around. And what was interesting to me about this is she's a Trump person, and so she has to. James o' Keeffe was in a similar role, but it's like, she has to acknowledge that there was a stampede, that people are acting badly. But then she's like, of course, my fellow citizens. And she also acknowledges that this event is so poorly run that she has to scavenge garbage to. To stay alive, essentially.
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It wasn't garbage. It was happy and potato chips.
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An abandoned bag of potato chips.
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Would you not do that?
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You know, what's the.
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What's the worst.
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I'm not too good for it.
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Yeah, I was gonna say, what's. If you were in that situation, like, what's the bar like? Obviously, I'm not eating. Like, you know, like, there's like, a. A quart of a hot dog left or something. I'm not gonna touch that. Oh, no. Come on. What would you eat, like, to, like. I'm not saying you're starving, like you're going to die. I'm just saying you're really hungry, and, like, you need something, and you're just looking around, like, how low would you go?
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You know, I'd probably do the chips. You know, I wanted to make fun of Emily for this one time in high school. Oh, no. A roll of, like, a thing of fudge. Like, a little, like, lunch fudge thing came slide or pudding came just sliding across the floor. It was closed. And I just was like, all right, free pudding. And, like, no one was around. I don't know how it got there. And so I just started eating it. And then this teacher was like, why are you eating in the HAL hallway? And I got detention over it. And I was just like, I don't know. I just found this pudding. And they were like, what? That's. That's not a good explanation. But so. So, you know, I wanted to make fun of Emily here, but. But. But I. I'm no better.
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You just found pudding on the floor?
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And I thought, well, I don't know. It's about.
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Did you have a spoon or did you go, like, it gets better than the. Than the fingers in the pudding, but it's pretty gross, dude. Okay, I would have. I don't know if I would have done the chips. I honestly don't know half. Who knows whose grimy hands were in there? Probably some kid. And yet it's better than, like, you know, it's definitely better than, like a burger. Like a heavy burger or dog. I wouldn't do that. I'm trying to think how low I would go. I guess I would do the chips, but it's really a tough call. It also sort of depends on the type of chip. And like. Like, isn't uts, like, having a big recall right now? I don't think I would do that. And the flavor, like, I don't think I would do. You know, if it was like, jalapeno chips. I don't know if I'd do that.
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Yeah, that's a little more of acquired
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taste, especially in 101 degree heat. You don't want that. Absolutely not. The other great video from. I can't believe you're putting star. You're gonna have to clip that one.
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All right. From the festivities.
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Is this woman dancing? And I have no clue who this woman is. You found it. You tweeted it. Like, do we have any context?
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Let me give a backstory. So this is like when I talk about hell on earth. I mean, the part where people were kicked out and then they're as. I mean, you made the children of men reference yesterday. They're like, against the chain link fence, you've got this troops. And the.
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Didn't look like children of men. It did.
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It really did. It's like this urban environment. People are, like, fenced in. And it was just so like, you know, I would see these videos, and it's like some of our brave, you know, Twitter Personas. In this case, this video comes from a Richmond, Virginia, guy named Goad Gatsby. Some of the people down there who were bravely documenting this for us, but, you know, I would see in these videos, you know, someone with like, a toddler on their arms, and it's like, I cannot. I would have been back at the
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hotel power toss for a second. You have a kid? I have kids. The idea of bringing my child to that is, like, so beyond the realm of sanity and reason. My kid would have been in absolute misery. I mean, the heat, the time spent outdoors, the clear abstinence, absence of food, available food. We would have been eating a lot worse than the half bags of chips at that point in time. I would. It would have been parental malfeasance or whatever you want to call it. It would have been awful.
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Yeah. You know, I saw people on the. The DC subreddit saying, you know, can I bring my like 75 year old grandmother and my. To this? It's like, no, they will die.
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Don't do it. Oh my God. All right, back to the.
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So in this case, this kind of like Hieronymous Bosch type seed opens up where people are like jamming, whatever. So this video just. It struck me about something that is so 20, 26 the way we live now. Let's check out this clip.
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Clip.
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She's going for it. Oh, come on.
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All we get is that. Can we play one more time? Are we allowed to play one more time? Yes, do it one more time.
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She's got moves.
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Honestly, I'm dying. She's good. I don't care what the commenters think.
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She's going. I mean, I think she's doing, you know, like, like the. This.
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Who is she? Where did come from? Can we get her on the show?
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She's just a lady who's. Who's busted a move. I mean, I have to say, you know, she ate and left no crumbs. You know it. I think she did a great job there.
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That, that. Those are the best vibes of the entire thing, honestly. She made good. She. She really put, put a smile on my face. I want to close out this segment of the 250. I asked you in advance so you've had some time to prep. But you know, I want to gamify this a little bit. So. So what? I have my list. I have actually like five. But I asked you for three. Three of your sort of iconic memories of this whole 10 day festival. What were they like?
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When I look back.
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How many? Three.
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When I look back in the nursing home at the, the bi sesquicentennial or whatever. Look, I mean we've kind of covered them. I'll talk, I'll think about that lady, you know, rocking out. The lady.
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You've got her in top three.
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Yeah, well, you know, I think the Emily Miller thing, I think, I guess like for me overall the vibe was just so weird. Like what was being. What was coming out of it was just so odd.
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Give me specifics. Do you need my three?
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Yeah, give me your three.
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Okay, well, I have five. Well, I have three. I'll do my three. I thought the Uncle Sam sicko as you referenced was like unbelievable and really it was like symbolism. Can I tell you?
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He's been. He's back, right? And so he's. He couldn't go on the fair, but he was like just. He was like really skirting the Edges like he could go to the Lincoln Memorial or he could be across the street and he was posting like, guess who's back? And like a picture as the uncle.
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This is the guy just for people who are not aware who was caught putting his hands in his pants watching Cirque Day, whatever it's called. What was it?
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Mechanic.
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Cirque de Mechanique. And they were like, sir, you cannot touch yourself while watching Cirque D. Mechanic, you actually need to go away. And he just came back. Awful. So that's on my top list. I thought that the. Did you see the thing where the was coming out of the.
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Yes.
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Yeah, like that, that, that. Again, another symbolic moment where it's like this thing is literally being held together by like kind of glue and it's falling apart because of the heat. I thought that was interesting. And then the piece of the stage that fell on, the people who are not performing, they're practicing there, they're getting in reps and someone nearly could have died because this huge piece of stage just fell. I thought that was interesting too. I added on there. I have. I mentioned the African American Museum. I thought that was very interesting to see. That's probably the only time that these MAGA people are going to end up in that museum. And I'm glad that they made it. Probably should go under less adverse circumstances. Great museum. And then there was. Oh, I did mention the woman dancing, but we talked about her. And then the $25 sausage. I thought that was just too expensive.
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I have two. One I witnessed personally. It was. I was coming out of the food hall and there was a family with like five young kids. And the woman, the mom is holding like a huge pizza, no doubt. Awful. And holding another kid in one arm. The two year old rips his shirt off and goes running. And the dad goes, whatever, I'm going to the Montana booth. And he abandons his family. And the idea these booths were all bad, right? It's just gonna be a sign that says Montana. The idea of a man just abandoning his harried wife, his children running amok so he can go like, I don't know, sit in a chair that says Montana on it. I felt really. I was like, buddy, it's not, it's not, it's not worth it. It's not worth it. The, the other moment I wanted. God, there's. There's so many. I, you know what? I. It just flew out of my head. But, but there were really a great moments from the American 250.
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Okay, well, I want to thank you for covering it for us, Will. And honestly, like, I'm glad it's over. It was a lot. It was 10 days of this. It's time to move on. I'm happy for the country. Love the country. 250. We made it.
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All the times that, like, Fox News or Cabinet secretaries would be up and they'd say, this is the most rocking fair ever. And then the video would pan to just one man or two.
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Oh, my God, it was so good. All right, we got another segment now. Joe Rogan.
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Yes.
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So I. I don't even know who the guest was here, but this one.
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Oh, it was. It was Tony Hinchcliffe of Kill. Tony the Puerto Ricans number one enemy.
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Oh, my God. Tony's gotten. Tony's, like, had a renaissance man. That guy's everywhere. He's very popular now. Anyway, Joe Rogan had Tony on, and they start talking, and I don't know how. I'd be very curious to understand how Rogan, like, what goes through his head and, like, how he gets these topics, because sometimes he's just riffing and you're like, sorry, how did he come up with that idea? But let's play what he said about the fact there's no rap songs on, like, the Billboard top 50 or whatever it is, which happens to correspond, I suppose, with the absence of USA Aid funding.
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Let's.
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Let's listen to Joe Rogan here.
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But people are pointing out that right now it's, like, one of the rare times where no rap music is on the charts.
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Yeah.
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And they're saying, well, how does this coincide with usaid? Was usaid, like, actively promoting rap music? Was that one of the reasons why rap music was so popular? Is that real? That can't be real. I love Tony Hinchcliffe saying, yeah, like, this is just the most grave thing. Yeah, that's so true. Yeah. So this is. This is interesting. This is something I see over and over on the right.
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Is it interesting?
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Well, I don't know. What do I know? So here's the. Here's the deal. So ever since, you know, Doge defunded usaid, every time any or anything gets less popular or changes or has financial issues, they say, I guess this was being propped up by usaid. Now, you have to be dumb as a rock to believe this, but the. You know, the first example of this was Politico, right. Last year, where. Where it was like Politico laid some people off, and then people started saying, I guess USAID was fund Politico. And then this actually created a lot of problems for Politico because then it became like this, you know, kind of people were like, oh, the government needs to cut all its subscriptions, Politico. But I've seen this over and over, and I think this idea actually came from Tim Pool, the podcaster. And so he said, you know, he screenshotted, you know, this idea that, you know, rap is, you know, becoming less prominent on the Billboard charts. Lizzo. Lizzo's new album didn't even chart what happened. And so it only sold 2600 copies. And, you know, he says it looks like he's trying to say shit here. He. He says, SIT was all USAID the whole time. And I think he's kind of pushed this idea otherwise, that. This idea that rap music was sort of a USAID psyop. It's crazy. But, you know, in the world where, again, it's kind of causation, correlation, it's all jumbled up. This is an idea that's out there.
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Well, isn't it just racist, right? Like, aren't they just saying, well, it funds black people?
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Well, you know, it's funny also in this clip, Joe Rogan's like, you know, look, I love some hip hop, all this stuff. I mean, a lot of these people, they unquestionably do, like, some rap music, and they're just like. The only explanation here is that some guy at USAID was like, you know, let's get. I don't know.