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Hey, everybody, Tim Miller from the Bulwark here. We got some breaking news. The war is back on. Well, for those of us who can observe reality and for whom words have meaning and actions have meaning, the war is very clearly back on. Seeing as we are firing at Iranian ships and assets and Iran was firing at our ships. To me, that is a war by any definition. The administration is desperate to describe it as anything other than that. But we have kinetic action, whatever you want to call it. This evening over in the Strait of Hormuz. I want to just kind of give you a little timeline of what happened and run it down here. We're taping this at about 8:00 Eastern Time. So, you know, if there are ongoing developments, we'll obviously be monitoring them along with you. And before I actually read all this, subscribe to the feed if you hadn't. Okay, we're up here doing this for you. Do us a solid and subscribe to the feed. We're going for 2 million. All right. Jim Griffin, the last real reporter at Fox News, posted this a little bit ago. New US Military just carried out strikes on Iran's Kashmir port and Bandar Abbas. Senior US Officials tell her. They also told her this is not the restarting of the war. One thing that these guys are very good about messaging wise is telling people that they're not in the war. They've not been very good about explaining their objectives. They haven't been very good about explaining their strategies. They haven't been very good about using traditionally grammatically correct sentences, you know, subject, verb, predicate. They're not very good at any of that. But they are. They're all singing from the same hymn book. The this is not a war. We're still cease firing. We're firing but also cease firing. You'll see that as we move on. So that was Jim Griffin had that first. Phil Stewart over at Reuters. I've shouted out before is another guy that is important to follow closely on this. He has this statement from the military. U.S. central Command. CENTCOM says that they've eliminated inbound threats and targeted Iranian military facilities responsible for for attacking US Forces, including missile and drone launch sites, command and control locations and intelligence surveillance and reconnaissance nodes. That sure sounds like a word to me. The military added that Iran had launched multiple missiles drones in small boats at these three U.S. navy destroyers, the Truxton, the Peralta and the Mason. They were transiting the Strait of Hormuz as part of the on, again, off, off again Project Freedom. Getting boats out of the Strait of Hormuz. So these destroyers were fired at for being in the strait or on obviously trying to demonstrate they still have control of the strait. Those destroyers were transiting from the Strait of Hormuz or through the Strait of Hormuz to the Gulf of Oman when they were attacked. And then we fired back at the Iranian assets that were attacking our destroyers. It's just kind of a silly aside. Like one of my criticisms of the West Wing back in the day was like, in order to make the show work, when there were like big announcements like this, like we had a war and here's what happened in the war, like the President Bartlett or C.J. craig would like lay out exactly what happened in detail so the viewers would know what happened. But like in the real world, like people like know what happens from the news. And so that's like not how the announcements worked. But, you know, now reality is imitated art because Donald Trump likes to not only be the President of the United States, but kind of like the nation's news anchor, like the dumbest, you know, kind of like a homeless man's. Tony de Copple. Anyway, he gave us the details of what happened in these attacks. Obviously take this with a grain of salt going from Trump. As you'll see here, he uses some, he takes some rhetorical license, I think, with what happened. But here's the story of what happened to the destroyers as told by our president on his social media feed. 3 world class American destroyers just transited very successfully out of the Strait of Hormuz under fire. There was no damage done to the three destroyers, but great damage done to the Iranian attackers. They were completely destroyed, along with numerous small boats which are being used to take the place of their fully decapitated navy. These boats went out to the bottom of the sea quickly and efficiently. He goes on. Missiles were shot at our destroyers and were easily knocked down. Likewise, drones came and were incinerated while in the air. They dropped ever so beautifully down to the ocean, very much like a butterfly dropping to its grave. Official statement from the President of the United States. A normal country here. You might think that the next sentence that when he starts it with a normal country, he's kind of like contrasting what a normal country would do versus what he was doing right here in this statement. But that's not it. He sees himself as normal. For some reason. He's critiquing Iran here. So this is Trump continuing on. A normal country would have allowed these destroyers to pass, but Iran is not a normal country. They are led by lunatics, all caps. And if they had the chance to use a nuclear weapon, they would do it without question. But they'll never have that opportunity. And just like we knocked them out again today, we'll knock them out a lot harder and a lot more violently in the future if they don't get their deal signed fast. So there's Trump. Lots unpack there. You know, again, he's trying to kind of walk this line about how this isn't really a war. This was just another little skirmish. He, I guess, you know, he's very much, you know, everyone is 12 meme. The president is 12. He's very focused on the things going boom, describing the things that go boom. You know, kind of like a deranged 12 year old. You know, he enjoys killing butterflies and insects and watching them die. So he's describing that vision, you know, something that brings him joy and I think. And then he reverts to kind of this attack language. On Iran, you might remember, it wasn't too long ago that he's talking about how the new leaders of Iran are actually pretty sensible guys. They're normal chaps. We're dealing with them. They're not crazy like the other guys that we killed. We can work with these guys. They're smart. And if they're smart, they'll do a deal with me. And they are smart. So they will do a deal with me and we'll get a deal in one to two weeks. So Trump's been saying for nine, 10 weeks now. And now you see a little rhetorical pivot here to they're not smart guys, they're not good guys, better guys. Leading Iran now, they're lunatics, lunatics, all caps. And they might nuke us. Even so, you know, if you took the President seriously, that'd be pretty concerning. But since we don't, just seems like, you know, he's trying to do this thing where he, he's trying to be both good cop and bad cop in one person. You know, I'm going to be nice to him, then I'm going to try to rough him up, I'm going to be nice to him. Has been working.
Date: May 8, 2026
Host: Tim Miller
This episode provides real-time analysis and commentary on the sudden escalation of military engagement between the United States and Iran in the Strait of Hormuz on the evening of May 8, 2026. Host Tim Miller reacts to the breaking news that both nations have directly fired upon each other’s naval and military assets, unpacks the timeline of events, assesses official statements, and critiques the administration’s messaging around the conflict.
“We are firing at Iranian ships and assets and Iran was firing at our ships. To me, that is a war by any definition. The administration is desperate to describe it as anything other than that.”
— Tim Miller [00:17]
Jim Griffin (Fox News Reporter):
Phil Stewart (Reuters):
U.S. CENTCOM (via Stewart):
“They haven’t been very good about explaining their objectives...But they are. They’re all singing from the same hymn book: this is not a war. We’re still cease firing. We’re firing but also cease firing.”
— Tim Miller [01:31]
“There was no damage done to the three destroyers, but great damage done to the Iranian attackers. They were completely destroyed, along with numerous small boats...”
— Donald Trump (quoted by Tim Miller) [03:10]
“Missiles were shot at our destroyers and were easily knocked down. Likewise, drones came and were incinerated while in the air. They dropped ever so beautifully down to the ocean, very much like a butterfly dropping to its grave.”
— Donald Trump (quoted by Tim Miller) [03:43]
“A normal country would have allowed these destroyers to pass, but Iran is not a normal country. They are led by lunatics, all caps. And if they had the chance to use a nuclear weapon, they would do it without question. But they’ll never have that opportunity.”
— Donald Trump (quoted by Tim Miller) [04:24]
“He’s very focused on the things going boom, describing the things that go boom...kind of like a deranged 12 year old… He enjoys killing butterflies and insects and watching them die.”
— Tim Miller [05:26]
On the Administration’s Messaging:
“They haven’t been very good about explaining their objectives...But they are. They're all singing from the same hymn book: this is not a war. We’re still cease firing. We’re firing but also cease firing.”
— Tim Miller [01:31]
On Trump’s Public Statements:
“Missiles were shot at our destroyers and were easily knocked down. Likewise, drones came and were incinerated while in the air. They dropped ever so beautifully down to the ocean, very much like a butterfly dropping to its grave.”
— Donald Trump, quoted by Tim Miller [03:43]
On Contradictory Messaging:
“Now you see a little rhetorical pivot here to they're not smart guys...they might nuke us...He’s trying to be both good cop and bad cop in one person. You know, I’m going to be nice to him, then I’m going to try to rough him up, I’m going to be nice to him. Has been working.”
— Tim Miller [05:58]
This rapid-response Bulwark episode breaks down a major escalation between the U.S. and Iran, with host Tim Miller providing context, chiding official attempts to downplay direct military action, and dissecting President Trump’s bombastic, shifting rhetoric. The core takeaway: Despite official denials, the facts on the ground—a U.S. naval engagement with Iranian forces and subsequent U.S. strikes—constitute a significant military conflict with unclear strategic objectives and mounting risks for further escalation.