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Hey, everyone, it's me, Sam Stein with Jonathan Cohn, author of the Breakdown. And we are going live because the Supreme Court just issued a slate of rulings, foreign total. It wasn't the birthright citizenship ruling, which everyone is sort of waiting for, but there were some major ones in today's, in today's slate, we're going to focus on one, which is the topic that Jonathan's been writing about. It's temporary protection stat protective status. The supreme court, in a 63:6 to 3 ruling on ideological grounds, said that the Trump administration does have the power, the authority to end TPS protections for Haitians and Syrians in this country. We're Talking about roughly 350,000 Haitians and about 6,100 Syrians in this country. The court, again, the conservatives on the court said that this is inherent authority to the president. The liberals were making arguments that we're going to get into mostly largely that they did not follow proper procedure and operated in racial animus in trying to do this. But Jonathan, you've been writing about this specifically as it pertains to the Haitian community in Florida, which populates a lot of the elderly care community down there. And you know, I'm going to let you cook for a second, but this is a devastating ruling for that community. Whatever you think about the legality of it, this is a devastating ruling for that community. It's going to have profound ripple effects. Can you just sort of talk us through where you see this now going?
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Yeah, so, yeah. So, I mean, so this is a really big decision. And frankly, I think it's sort of gotten under, under, under, covered, sort of the undercard and the birthright is because of the birthright citizenship case. And basically you have two groups of people in this case, Haitian refugees, Syrian refugees. They're lumped together in one case. There are more than 300,000 of these Haitian refugees. They were given this thing called special temporary protective status. It's a kind of designation that under immigration law, people here in the United States now country is deemed dangerous, like lethally dangerous. It's something we've done historically, going back decades. But the 1990 immigration law kind of codified it, made possible for official design, was given after the earthquake in 2010 extended times. And, and basically you have this group of refugees here. They're allowed to live here legally, they're allowed to work here, very importantly. And that's where sort of our articles here at the Bulwark have focused on, among other things, Haitians make up a disproportionate share of the caregiving workforce, especially in places where they've congregated, like South Florida, also New York, Massachusetts, Ohio, you go to any. But in South Florida, where I was just a week ago, you go to any nursing home, there's going to be a lot of Haitian workers there. You go and you visit people living at home with home care aides. A lot of them are Haitian. And there's sort of reasons why they've gravitated to that. We could talk all about that, but basically now they can't stay. They can no longer work. So all these nursing homes who have large numbers of Haitian immigrants on protective status, not all Haitian. Obviously you have Haitian immigrants who are here through other means, but the ones who are here on temporary protected status, they're going to lose their working papers. They're not going to be able to work through agencies, they're not going to work through.
A
Well, let's talk about that for a second.
B
They're going to get, and they are going to get sent back. And so immediately this is a labor crisis, quite apart from the fact of what it means for these people are going to have to go back to this country that, by the way, is our own State Department designates as one of the most dangerous in the world.
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Let's talk a little bit about what comes next for the Haitians, because in your piece you wrote about this, basically they're out of legal recourse here, but there is congressional recourse. And we talked about this in your piece a little bit. But House Republicans in Florida did actually come back and say, you know what, we're going to vote for a bill that actually allows them to stay. We're going to give them grant these Haitians TPS status. This, which is possibly the only way to keep these people in this country at this point in time, is for Congress to act. You and I have been talking about this a little bit. If it's possible for the Senate to follow suit. Obviously there's two Senate Republicans in Florida. They know very well that their, you know, elderly community is going to be hit hard if all these Haitians are thrown out of the country. But a bill, if it were to pass the Senate somehow would also need President Trump's signature on it. And that seems totally implausible to me that the president, who has made such a commitment to ending TPS status for Haitians specifically, and we'll get into that in a little bit, would sign any bill. Am I being cynical? You, you're like the more optimistic person in this duo here, like, is there a way through this or this, is this just a done deal?
B
I mean, look, it is not. I don't think, I mean, I don't think the. I don't think there's like a great outlook here. I see two possibilities. The fact that this bill did pass the House, it had to pass the House with the votes of some Republicans.
A
Right.
B
And they had to do it over the, you know, over the wishes of leadership. This was done through one of those discharge petitions. So that tells you there is some real cross pressure on Republicans again from Florida, from, you know, in the House, from New York, from Ohio. Right. You got Republican senators in Ohio and they're hearing it. It's not just from, you know, the senior citizens. I mean, these, you know, these are large, you know, business interests, right? The companies that, that employ home care workers, the nursing homes, they have some clout. And this ripples, by the way, through the whole health care system. I mean, if you have more elderly people getting less care, they're going to end up in hospitals, they're going to end up in ers with their fall, you know, falls, infections and all of that. So this is, this is a big deal deal. Could that. You know, we haven't heard from the two Florida senators on this, which I
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think we did hear from the Florida governor, though. Ron DeSantis came out pressure on.
B
Now, are they going to act? I think if you saw the Florida senators start to flip, you might see other Republicans come along. Now, could you get Trump to sign it? Maybe not. But do they find some way to squeeze it into some legislation he wants to sign or does you know that it is possible for DHS to reverse on this or make some kind of special allowance? Again, hard to imagine it happening in a Stephen Miller administration. I mean, there's a reason that he went after these people, but this is real economic pressure, it's real political pressure. And Florida, Ohio are two pretty important states to the Republicans.
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All right, Cohen, why don't you sign out and sign back in? I'm going to go through exactly what's happening to date and then I'm going to kick to add. But you're going to fix your tech issues, folks. Don't worry. He's coming right back. He's going to sign out, sign back in. In the meantime, I'm just going to go through what's happening here. So the Supreme Court issued a slate of rulings today. One of them is on the temporary protective status for Haitians and Syrians in this country. The court in the 6 to 3 decision said that the administration does have the authority to end temporary protective status for these communities. There had been some back and forth. In fact the district courts had stopped the administration from going forward with this precisely because the district courts said that the administration had not followed proper procedures in doing this. There are proper procedures. You have to do this. Some of the people suing the administration had said well they, you know, they were acting an animus. They didn't properly look into whether the countries from which they came were able to safely accept them. Back in Haiti obviously is not in a great place. It's in a state of disrepair. Syria likewise but this the conservatives on the court ruled against them saying no they did not act in animus. They and so we're left in a situation where the administration now can go forward and end the protective status for these 300,000 plus Haitians in these 6,000 plus Syria.
Date: June 25, 2026
Hosts: Sam Stein (A), Jonathan Cohn (B)
This emergency episode discusses the Supreme Court's breaking decision (6–3) granting the Trump administration authority to end Temporary Protected Status (TPS) for over 350,000 Haitian and over 6,100 Syrian refugees. Sam Stein and Jonathan Cohn analyze the legal and human ramifications, focusing especially on the impact in South Florida’s health care sector, possible congressional recourse, and the broader political implications.
Summary:
The Supreme Court ruled along ideological lines, determining that the executive branch (the administration) has the inherent power to end TPS for Haitians and Syrians. This affects about 350,000 Haitians and 6,100 Syrians in the U.S.
Sam Stein Introduction (00:00–01:33):
Jonathan Cohn’s Background (01:33–03:50):
Explains TPS’s origins and purpose—protection for people from countries deemed “lethally dangerous.”
Highlights the significance of the Haitian workforce, especially its concentration in Florida’s caregiving sector.
"You go to any nursing home, there’s going to be a lot of Haitian workers there..." (Jonathan Cohn, 02:41)
Consequence: These workers will soon be unable to work legally, threatening immediate labor shortages in critical eldercare sectors.
"All these nursing homes who have large numbers of Haitian immigrants on protective status... are going to lose their working papers." (Jonathan Cohn, 03:44)
Jonathan Cohn (03:51–04:11):
Health System Ripple Effects (05:48–06:36):
Sam Stein (04:11–05:29):
Describes how the only viable way to keep these TPS holders in the U.S. now would be congressional action.
Notes Florida House Republicans broke ranks, supporting a bill to extend TPS.
“This ... is possibly the only way to keep these people in this country at this point in time, is for Congress to act.” (Sam Stein, 04:40)
Skepticism on presidential approval, especially given Trump’s vocal opposition to TPS for Haitians.
"It seems totally implausible to me that the president... would sign any bill." (Sam Stein, 05:12)
Jonathan Cohn’s Outlook (05:29–07:18):
Sees two slim possibilities for these communities: Senate passage of a bill or a special executive allowance.
Significant bipartisan pressure exists, especially from states like Florida and Ohio, due to economic and healthcare impacts.
"This was done through one of those discharge petitions. That tells you there is some real cross-pressure on Republicans." (Jonathan Cohn, 05:48)
Considers theoretical scenarios: bipartisan dealmaking, leveraging nursing home operator influence, or squeezing TPS protection into must-pass legislation.
"Could you get Trump to sign it? Maybe not. But do they find some way to squeeze it into some legislation he wants to sign...?" (Jonathan Cohn, 06:55)
"This is a devastating ruling for that community... Whatever you think about the legality of it, this is a devastating ruling for that community. It's going to have profound ripple effects."
Sam Stein, 01:08
"There are more than 300,000 of these Haitian refugees... They were given this thing called special temporary protective status... After the earthquake in 2010, extended times... Haitians make up a disproportionate share of the caregiving workforce, especially in places like South Florida."
Jonathan Cohn, 01:33–02:50
"Immediately, this is a labor crisis, quite apart from the fact of what it means for these people... going back to this country that, by the way, is our own State Department designates as one of the most dangerous in the world."
Jonathan Cohn, 03:58
"This... is possibly the only way to keep these people in this country at this point in time, is for Congress to act."
Sam Stein, 04:40
"Could you get Trump to sign it? Maybe not. But do they find some way to squeeze it into some legislation he wants to sign or does... make some kind of special allowance? Again, hard to imagine it happening in a Stephen Miller administration."
Jonathan Cohn, 06:55
The episode is a sober, detailed reaction to a landmark Supreme Court decision, foregrounding the legal, human, and economic stakes of ending TPS for Haitians and Syrians. With tens of thousands at risk of deportation and critical labor shortages looming in eldercare, the hosts probe both the legal limits and the last remaining—albeit slim—paths to relief via Congress, all while voicing skepticism that Trump would agree to any such deal. The palpable frustration underscores the profound uncertainty now facing these communities and the broader caregiving infrastructure in states like Florida.