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Can I. Can I just make the case for a conspiracy theory?
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Yeah, if you must.
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Yes, yes, Catherine, I must. Boy, I know who my favorite co host is. Hello, everyone. This is JVL here with my best friend, Sarah Longwell, and my. This is awkward. My other co host, I was gonna.
C
What are you gonna do? What are you gonna.
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My side co host, who's also a very good friend of mine, Catherine Rempell,
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my second tier friend. What tier am I if not.
C
This is. No, you're misunderstanding what he's doing right now. What he's saying is you and he have another show together. So it's actually what he's saying is he's trying to set us up, Catherine. To compete for his affection as his two co hosts. But. But I won't do that, Catherine, you know what?
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This is how you'll feel when we have Weissman sit in for Tim at some point. Anyway, it is great to have you here with us, Katherine, because we get to start out your inaugural appearance on the next level with great news about Mitch McConnell, the former majority Leader of the United States Senate. We got another proof of life photo from him yesterday. Were you excited?
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I was super psyched because lots of people had suggested that our man Mitch McConnell was down and out. But clearly he is as alert and well groomed and well dressed as ever. Nothing suspicious at all about these photos that we have seen of him recently, which all look posed somewhat the same always. He's wearing a hospital chair, he's wearing his oxford shirt or whatever in the hospital as one does unt. There's no newspaper showing today's date, unfortunately in this particular one. But yeah, I'm very relieved because clearly he's doing well.
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Sarah, are you buying all this?
C
I mean, I'm not full JVL conspiracy on this where I'm like, Mitch McConnell's never coming back to the Senate, like he'll never take another vote. I'm not sure. I think that I've never quite been there. I do think that he's much sicker than they're letting on. And these are staged photos and that. Look, if you want to prove. After how long has he been gone? I mean, it's been six weeks. Yeah. He's missed 38 votes on the Senate floor. So at that point, I do think you have to offer more than a picture, something with some motion, perhaps hearing a voice. I'm not sure that Scott Jennings, for
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you, that's not sufficient proof.
C
It is not. I can't say that I've. I've imbue a lot of my trust into Scott Jennings. And so I would like to see something where he talks to us. He keeps releasing statements along with the photo. And I'm like, you know how you could meld these two things together? You could talk in a camera. You just slide the little thing over one toggle and you got your camera rolling. And then you could say the statement to us and then we would know that you are still with us in a sentient way.
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It's not just Jennings, to be fair, who has had an exactly 20 minute conversation with Mitch McConnell. It's also, I believe Thune and Barrasso have said that they had 20 minute
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conversations, all the same conversation.
C
I think it was all the same conversation. And that they talked to each other.
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Maybe. Yeah, maybe it was a prankster who
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was calling on Mitch, drooling in the background. I. So we had a little bit of. So a couple developments. So we got the proof of life photo yesterday. We got a statement from a written statement from. From Senator McConnell. We got an attending physician, unsigned doctor's note, talking about what strenuous rehab he's been doing and, you know, multiple times a day and all this. And then we got Governor Andy Beshear, who sent a letter to McConnell saying in part, aside from two photos and corresponding statements, you've made no effort to communicate with your Kentucky constituents or the nation. Even the attending physician's writt does not discuss your actual condition, including whether you can speak reason or carry out your duties as senator. I'm calling on you to directly and verbally address the people of Kentucky and provide proof of your capacity to serve or resign. Wow.
B
I don't know that that's going to convince him. Yeah, I mean, yes, I agree it's good that Bashir is releasing that statement, but he doesn't have any actual authority to force him to. No, but do a little jig on camera.
C
Right.
A
I mean, Andy Beshear is the governor, like, in most states, even if they're from opposing parties, the governor and the sitting state senators, like, have a working relationship. They have an ability to get one another on the phone. And if the governor of Kentucky cannot get the senior senator from Kentucky on the phone to hear his voice and he's willing to start saying so publicly like this, like, I don't know, like, is that a tenable position? I mean, I guess it is a tenable position because you can't force it. Right.
C
I do think it shows a real contempt for voters the way a lot of these politicians of late, like, it didn't used to be like this. You couldn't be. If you took a hike on the Appalachian Trail, people noticed you were gone and they went and found you and, you know, hounded your office. And I, I think that part of it is that there's a human element where people are like, Mitch McConnell's very sick. Like he is. He's clearly suffered a lot of health events. This is a person who many of them have, if not professional respect for exactly. A kind of. What is that? Collegiality or like, benefit of collegiality that they offer. But I do think that there's, like, a limit on that. Like, I think it was fair to give him some time and see how he's going. I do think that limit is up now. And that. And I, I am unsure, I've said this in other podcasts, why there's not more reporters who are trying to get, like, it is wild how locked up it is. Nobody's been able to get any answers. And if I was Bashir, I would. And I think if I was Bashir, this is just. If Mitch McConnell, I think he's given him the professional, like, collegiality, respect, and at this point now, he should be in full opposition mode, especially if Bashir is somebody who wants to run for president. If you are the kind of person who, in one of the times when the spotlight's on you, you can't get answers in a moment like this. Like, you can't push and figure out what's going on, voters are going to hold that against you. Like, he has sort of a political responsibility. I think that is a real work responsibility, but a political responsibility to, like, push harder than a letter. Have you ever seen Little women where she writes a letter and she says, ah, a letter that'll show em. I feel a little bit like that.
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All right, before we move on from this, can I, Can I just make the case for a conspiracy theory?
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Yeah, if you must.
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Yes, yes, Catherine, I must. Boy, I know who my favorite co host is. So the, the McConnell camp is insisting three things, and I propose to you that it is not possible that all three things of these are true. The first thing they are insisting is that, and this was his statement immediately when he was hospitalized, he said he fell. I did not break any bones or suffer a concussion. I didn't have a heart attack or a stroke. I don't have any t. Or hemorrhages. He was then hospitalized for a full month. I don't know if you guys Know people who've been hospitalized for a full month, but you've got to be in really bad shape for them to keep you in a hospital for a month. Like the doctors, the insurance companies, your family. Nobody wants you to be in a hospital that long. That's an opportunity to get sicker. They want to push you to a lower burden of care as quickly as possible. He was discharged to a rehab facility. He's been at this rehab facility for two weeks. And they are. Now, the second thing they're insisting on is that he is fine, he's good, and he's totally together mentally, and there are no problems. All three of these can't be true. Like, it's. Am I crazy?
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One thing that I think is interesting is that list of problems he doesn't have is fairly specific. Like, it's this laundry list of he doesn't have a tumor, he doesn't have a concussion, whatever. Whatever, whatever. I kind of want to use AI to reverse engineer what are the major complications that are common that were left out of this laundry list because it seems so specific and kind of legalistic. Right? Like, he can say he didn't break a bone, but maybe. I don't know. Was a stroke on there? I don't remember what was on there. So he didn't have a stroke, but
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no bones broken, no concussions, no heart attacks, no strokes, no tumors, no hemorrhages.
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But, like, that's very specific. When someone asks what is wrong with a public official who has been missing for many months or many weeks or whatever. Like with the guy from New Jersey, Keen. You know, I don't recall his office saying he doesn't have X, Y, Z. It's kind of like one of those, you know, my T shirt saying that I didn't have a stroke, a hemorrhage, concussion, whatever. Whatever raises questions that are already answered by my T shirt, it feels like it's drawing more attention to whatever it is he left out. So maybe there is some very legalistic technical way in which all three of those things that you laid out could be true because they're leaving out some other. Again, not a physician, but some other
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thing which is serious enough to keep you in an institutional setting for six weeks, but not serious enough to impede your cognitive function or prevent you from ever returning to work. Like, this is what I'm saying. Like, I don't. Yes, I didn't get through that year of medical school, but. Or any.
C
Catherine, you're missing the bit where this is JVL as being 1/16th of a doctor. So he can say like, this is how it normally works in a hospital.
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Okay, okay, but I, you know, like, I don't know, like I can't come up with, maybe our doctors, our doctor friends who are listening can reply in the comments as to what, what it could be.
C
That is, we now have, we have a lot of doctors we know because one time JVL told me not to get the shingles vaccine and boy, did the doctors come out of the water.
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I didn't say that. I just said be careful because it's, it packs a wallop. That's all I said. That was just all it was.
C
Jv I, I, I, I think that there's no doubt we're being, if not lied to with information as being withheld from us. Isn't it possible though, in terms of them keeping him in there, that the answer is a little more simple, which is he's a high profile senator and therefore they're taking extra good care of him. Like the kind of care that he gets is different from what the average person may get. He's also, look, he's also really old. Your point though about how he, he said the things he didn't say. It's not dementia. Didn't say it's not, you know, like there's a million things that could.
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But if it's dementia, then he can't return to him off. You know what I'm saying? Like that's not a, he's saying, I mean anybody, right? Like you can't, you lose your driver's license. You right? I mean, he is saying like, hey, I'm going to be ready to pick up my full, I'm doing, I'm doing intense physical. The, it just doesn't make sense.
C
Imagine that. I'm saying Trump can't run for a third term. He just can't.
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Fair.
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Yeah, check.
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You got me. You got me.
The Bulwark | July 28, 2026
In this episode of The Bulwark, hosts JVL, Sarah Longwell, and Catherine Rampell dive into the mysterious absence and status of Senator Mitch McConnell, scrutinizing the limited information publicly shared about his condition. Through playful banter and sharp political analysis, they question the official narrative, discuss Governor Andy Beshear’s response, and probe the underlying implications for political transparency and accountability.
“Clearly he is as alert and well groomed and well dressed as ever. Nothing suspicious at all about these photos that we have seen of him recently, which all look posed somewhat the same always. He's wearing a hospital chair, he's wearing his oxford shirt or whatever in the hospital as one does.”
(01:19)
“I'm calling on you to directly and verbally address the people of Kentucky and provide proof of your capacity to serve or resign. Wow.” (03:28)
“There's a human element where people are like, Mitch McConnell's very sick...But I do think that there's, like, a limit on that. Like, I think it was fair to give him some time and see how he's going. I do think that limit is up now.” (05:17)
“I propose to you that it is not possible that all three things of these are true...You’ve got to be in really bad shape for them to keep you in a hospital for a month.” (07:17 & 08:17)
“I kind of want to use AI to reverse engineer what are the major complications that are common that were left out of this laundry list because it seems so specific and kind of legalistic.” (08:48)
“Catherine, you're missing the bit where this is JVL as being 1/16th of a doctor.” (10:40)
“If you are the kind of person who, in one of the times when the spotlight's on you, you can't get answers in a moment like this...voters are going to hold that against you.” (06:39)