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Sam Stein
Hey, everyone, it's me, Sam Stein, managing here at the Bulwark. Look, I just got done with a taping of Katie Tur show on Ms. Now. And we talked about a bunch of stuff including redistricting. But the first thing we went over is the economy. And frankly, this kind of haphazard messaging that the Trump administration is doing on the economy with Kevin Hasset, one of Trump's top economic advisors, saying, hey, everything's great. People are spending so much money on their credit cards, gasoline and all that stuff. How great can it be? We're have all this expenditures happening from people. Well, the truth is it's not that great when you're spending a lot of money on essential services, including putting gas in your car and more money on beef and steaks and all that stuff because prices are going through the roof. What we talked about is the fact that a lot of the stuff that Trump has done, he sort of implicitly is recognizing that it's causing problems. It's why he wants to do now a gas tax holiday. It was a proposal that he debuted today.
Scott Bessant
Are you going to suspend the federal gas tax?
Donald Trump
Yeah, I'm going to reduce until the. Let me tell you, as soon as this is over with Iran, as soon as it's over, you're going to see gasoline and oil drop like a rock. Going to be dropping down like a rock.
Sam Stein
He said he wants an 18 cent gas tax holiday, which is something that Joe Biden tried in 2022. And you know who said no? Congressional Democrats as well as some congressional Republicans. Let's see if they will sign off on a gas tax holiday now that Trump is in office. We'll have to see if they vote on it even. And only a little bit of a reprieve because frankly, you take the money out of the highway Trust Fund and that means less money for repairing our roads and our bridges. The other thing that Trump did today or reportedly is going to do is relax tariffs on beef imports. Now, why is that important? Well, the price of beef is skyrocketing. So tariffs would potentially, if you relieve the tariffs, that would help with that. But implicitly what it is is acknowledgment that the tariffs that he put on beef imports are in fact causing beef prices to skyrocket. So now that he's taking them off, is he acknowledging that the tariffs actually weren't great for beef manufacturers or, sorry, I should say for beef consumers, because they need to get cheaper beef, especially in time for grilling season, which is coming up. All that we discussed on Katy turn. As I mentioned, we discussed redistricting later on and what it means for Democrats this cycle and for country going forward. Hope you enjoy.
Economic Analyst
The consumer is really, really firing on all cylinders just like the corporate sector you're seeing in the earnings reports. And they're doing that because they have so much more money in their pockets. In fact, I had the head of one of the big five banks in my office yesterday going through the credit card data. And just as Secretary Bessant said, credit card spending is through the roof. They're spending more on gasoline, but they're spending more on everything else too.
Scott Bessant
Sam it reminds me of the Scott Bessant line where he was talking about buying your, your 10th, 12th, 11th, 12th, 13th, 14th, 15th home. It's what's what's up with this White
Political Commentator
House little tone deaf to say the least.
Sam Stein
I thought I would rank the best
Political Commentator
in one a little bit even more tone deaf. You know, shaving off that 11th home as a way to, you know, prepare for the costs going up is something that only a select few of us can consider. But Kevin has, I mean this is he does time and again he goes out there on TV and he paints this incredibly rosy but also incredibly detached picture of where the economy is. And he does it because he knows that someone is watching him on TV and that person is Donald Trump. And yes, credit card spending is going up, but as we've just outlined, it's going up for the wrong reasons. Gas is more expensive, cost of goods is more expensive. People have to pay for essential services and so they're putting it on credit. That is not a sign of a healthy economy. That's a sign of a economy that is coming apart at the seams. And if in fact gas prices are not going to go down anytime soon, you can imagine that inflation is likely to get even worse because it is compounding goes into all these transportation costs, it goes into costs for a number of other goods as well. And so we are looking at a summer in which people are naturally going to be going on the road. People are going to be cooking out, you can see right there, ground brief. And the administration is looking for ways
Sam Stein
to chip at it.
Political Commentator
So there's two things that are happening. One is they're painting an incredibly rosy picture with these types of cable news hits. And then secondarily they're trying to find little ways to chip out the cost. So gas tax holiday is one of them. But the other thing that's kind of an interesting tell is that Trump is considering getting rid of some of the tariffs on beef, which is an admission, we should note, that the tariffs were in fact, responsible for raising prices in the first place. So they're nipping around the edges and we'll see if it does any good. I think in the aggregate, it's only going to be a little bit of relief.
The Bulwark Podcast
Date: May 11, 2026
Host: Sam Stein (with panel discussion)
This episode centers on the Trump administration's economic messaging amid rising inflation, with particular focus on the impact of tariffs and the proposed federal gas tax holiday. The panel discusses the administration’s attempts to portray economic strength, the real-life effects of tariffs and inflation, and the political optics surrounding these issues. The conversation includes critical analysis of the administration’s narratives and policy maneuvers, highlighting what they may imply for consumers and the broader economy.
Haphazard Economic Messaging:
Sam Stein opens by pointing out mixed messages from the Trump administration about the economy. Despite officials like Kevin Hasset touting high consumer spending as a sign of health, Stein argues this spending is misleading since it's driven by higher prices for essentials.
Disconnect Between Spin and Reality:
The panel notes how the administration’s communications are “incredibly rosy but also incredibly detached” from average Americans' experiences.
Trump’s Announcement:
Trump proposes an 18 cent gas tax holiday to relieve consumers at the pump, echoing a measure previously suggested (but not passed) during Biden’s presidency.
Skeptical Outlook:
The panel questions whether Congress will approve this idea now that it’s Trump's administration pushing it, and discusses the tradeoff of draining the highway trust fund, potentially reducing money for infrastructure maintenance.
Implicit Admission on Tariffs:
Trump signals he may roll back tariffs on beef imports to help lower food prices, which the panelists see as a tacit admission the tariffs themselves have driven up costs.
Limited Relief:
The panel notes these measures might only offer minimal relief as deeper inflationary pressures remain and suggest the administration is only “nipping around the edges.”
Superficial Prosperity:
Economic officials point to skyrocketing consumer spending as evidence of prosperity, but panelists clarify it's a result of consumers putting necessities on credit as essentials increase in cost.
Luxuries vs. Reality:
The segment lampoons administration talking points that seem out of touch with ordinary Americans—such as jokes about “shaving off that 11th home” to balance budgets.
On administration detachment:
“He paints this incredibly rosy but also incredibly detached picture of where the economy is. And he does it because he knows that someone is watching him on TV and that person is Donald Trump.”
— Panelist (03:13)
On hidden effects of inflation:
“People have to pay for essential services and so they're putting it on credit. That is not a sign of a healthy economy.”
— Panelist (03:33)
On the political feedback loop:
“They're painting an incredibly rosy picture with these types of cable news hits. And then secondarily they're trying to find little ways to chip out the cost.”
— Panelist (04:19)
The episode provides a critical examination of the Trump administration’s attempts to spin economic hardships as signs of prosperity, while simultaneously walking back some of its own policies (like tariffs) that have contributed to rising consumer prices. The panel frames these moves as implicit admissions of past policy failures and points out the limited impact such gestures might have on persistent inflation. As the episode ends, listeners are left with a sense of skepticism about whether current proposals (gas tax holiday, tariff rollbacks) will offer meaningful or lasting relief.