The Business Men

First Ever For Skin Samples…Are They Any Good? Joel and Ben Give Us Their Verdict

Ben and Joel hit a major milestone in their entrepreneurial journey, the arrival of their very first product samples for their men’s skincare brand, For Skin. After months of brainstorming, branding, and behind-the-scenes hustle, the boxes finally land… but will the products live up to expectations? From first impressions and fragrance debates, the pair put For Skin through its paces. It’s a turning point for the business, and a reminder that creating something from scratch is never as smooth as your serum claims to be. Will For Skin be ready for the market, or is it back to the lab? Fill out our skincare survey here: https://tinyurl.com/3xeh4w4x Join our Patreon today at patreon.com/thebusinessmen Follow on socials @thebusinessmenpod The Business Men is a production of Sony Music Entertainment. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us at @sonypodcasts To bring your brand to life in this podcast, email podcastadsales@sonymusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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‘What You ACTUALLY Need To Know About Skincare’ - Sarah Jossel Get’s To The Truth Of The Beauty Industry

2w ago00:36:48Tap to summarize

Sarah Jossel, journalist, broadcaster, and beauty editor of the Sunday Times Style, joins Ben for a lively conversation around everything she's learnt working behind the scenes in the beauty industry, which she reveals all on, in her new book Diary of a Beauty Editor. The conversation explores Sarah’s drive to share her knowledge of skincare, and how she’s built trust by making beauty more accessible and transparent. She reflects on how the landscape of beauty, and media more broadly, has evolved, from traditional editorial to today’s fast-moving, social-first world. Above all, she emphasises why honesty is non-negotiable when communicating with her loyal following, and the responsibility that comes with having their trust. Fill out our skincare survey here: https://tinyurl.com/3xeh4w4x Join our Patreon today at patreon.com/thebusinessmen Follow on socials @thebusinessmenpod The Business Men is a production of Sony Music Entertainment. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us at @sonypodcasts To bring your brand to life in this podcast, email podcastadsales@sonymusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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’70% Of Your Immune System Lives In Your Gut. Look After It!’ - Dr Megan Rossi On Tuning In To Your Gut Health

3w ago00:42:00Tap to summarize

Dr Megan Rossi aka The Gut Health Doctor, joins Ben this week for a fascinating deep dive into gut health, business, and building a trusted brand based on the science. From working in the NHS to becoming one of the most influential voices in global nutrition, Megan shares how she transformed scientific research into a thriving business, spanning bestselling books, a successful clinic, and a powerful digital platform. Ben digs into the realities behind turning expertise into enterprise, the challenges of scaling a purpose-led brand, and how Megan balances credibility with commercial success. Along the way, they unpack the booming wellness industry, the myths we’re often sold about gut health, and why trust is the most valuable currency in both business and medicine. It’s an honest, insightful conversation about entrepreneurship, resilience, and the power of knowing your niche, with plenty of practical takeaways (and a few gut-friendly tips) along the way. Fill out our skincare survey here: https://tinyurl.com/3xeh4w4x Join our Patreon today at patreon.com/thebusinessmen Follow on socials @thebusinessmenpod The Business Men is a production of Sony Music Entertainment. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us at @sonypodcasts To bring your brand to life in this podcast, email podcastadsales@sonymusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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'When you’re pushed into a corner, you HAVE to innovate' - Luke Hersheson on building a global brand

4w ago00:38:37Tap to summarize

Luke Hersheson, stylist, entrepreneur, and CEO of cult British brand Hershesons, this week chats to Ben, about building a modern business in an old industry. From growing up in a legendary hairdressing family to reinventing the salon model, Luke opens up about taking creative risks, learning to lead teams, and what it really takes to scale a premium brand without losing its soul. Ben and Luke dig into the realities of entrepreneurship, decision‑making under pressure, and staying relevant in an ever‑changing market. It’s a candid conversation about legacy, innovation, and the business lessons Luke’s learned along the way – whether you’re running a company, building a brand, or just curious how creativity and commerce collide. Fill out our skincare survey here: https://tinyurl.com/3xeh4w4x Join our Patreon today at patreon.com/thebusinessmen Follow on socials @thebusinessmenpod The Business Men is a production of Sony Music Entertainment. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us at @sonypodcasts To bring your brand to life in this podcast, email podcastadsales@sonymusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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James Welsh on Korean skincare, breaking myths and why 'Natural Isn't Always Better’

May 500:41:19Tap to summarize

Skincare influencer James Welsh gives Ben and Joel his insights and advice on the skincare industry, Korean beauty trends, the problems facing the men's grooming market in particular, tips for building a routine and debunks popular myths around skincare. Plus, he gives expert opinion on For Skin and how they can successfully launch their brand. Fill out our skincare survey here: https://tinyurl.com/3xeh4w4x Join our Patreon today at patreon.com/thebusinessmen Follow on socials @thebusinessmenpod The Business Men is a production of Sony Music Entertainment. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us at @sonypodcasts To bring your brand to life in this podcast, email podcastadsales@sonymusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We Opened Fallow… Then COVID Shut Us Down 3 Days Later

Apr 2800:49:46Tap to summarize

London chefs Jack Croft and Will Murray, founders of Fallow share how their fine-dining backgrounds at Dinner by Heston shaped their nose-to-tail, low-waste, sustainability-led approach, and how they launched via pop-ups before being hit by COVID lockdown days after opening. They explain pivoting to takeaway to survive, negotiating a strong lease post-lockdown, and evolving Fallow into a central London “neighbourhood restaurant” focused on atmosphere, service, and team culture. They discuss scaling to large teams across multiple sites, using social media and YouTube POV kitchen content to drive bookings, and offer advice on learning every part of the business before delegating and focusing on product quality over chasing followers. PLUS Joel and Ben reveal their community-chosen skincare brand logo for For Skin. Fill out our skincare survey here: https://tinyurl.com/3xeh4w4x Join our Patreon today at patreon.com/thebusinessmen Follow on socials @thebusinessmenpod The Business Men is a production of Sony Music Entertainment. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us at @sonypodcasts To bring your brand to life in this podcast, email podcastadsales@sonymusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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YOU Get To Choose Our Brands Future!

Apr 2100:28:04Tap to summarize

Brand designer Ella Williams‑Brown is back to reveal the final two logos for For Skin that YOU get to vote on. One of which will become the face of the brand, and there’s no room for compromise. Ella walks Ben and Joel through her final concepts after weeks of feedback, debate, and refinement. The boys break down what they love, what they’re unsure about, and where their instincts clash… before handing over the ultimate power to you. Which logo should represent 'For Skin'? Join and have your say, because whichever one wins becomes the final logo. TO VOTE.... join our Patreon here: https://tinyurl.com/mr3t5a5v Fill out our skincare survey here: https://tinyurl.com/3xeh4w4x Join our Patreon today at patreon.com/thebusinessmen Follow on socials @thebusinessmenpod The Business Men is a production of Sony Music Entertainment. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us at @sonypodcasts To bring your brand to life in this podcast, email podcastadsales@sonymusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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“You’ve Got To Play The Long Game In Skincare” - Wayne Goss On Why Consistency Beats Expensive Products

Apr 1400:40:35Tap to summarize

Wayne Goss, YouTube legend and entrepreneur built one of the most trusted voices in the beauty industry from his bedroom — without hype, gimmicks, or filters — and turned it into a global business. He talks us through monetising honesty, building a brand his audience actually trusts, and his honest take on skincare and mens make-up. Fill out our skincare survey here: https://tinyurl.com/3xeh4w4x Join our Patreon today at patreon.com/thebusinessmen Follow on socials @thebusinessmenpod The Business Men is a production of Sony Music Entertainment. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us at @sonypodcasts To bring your brand to life in this podcast, email podcastadsales@sonymusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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From MTV to Canned Bloody Mary’ - Will Best’s Bloody Business Venture

Apr 700:44:05Tap to summarize

Will Best, TV host and co‑founder of the award‑winning canned cocktail brand Bloody Drinks, joins Joel and Ben this week. Will shares how him and best mate Harry found a gap in the market at university, when they couldn't order the perfect Bloody Mary, just like Harry made. This sparked a business idea that grew from kitchen experiments into a rapidly expanding drinks company. He talks through the early chaos of creating a recipe worthy of a ready‑to‑drink can, the realities of launching a challenger brand in a crowded market, and why believing in your product (even when everyone thinks you’re a bit mad) is essential. Funny, honest, and packed with genuinely useful insight—this is one for anyone dreaming of turning a passion into a product. Fill out our skincare survey here: https://tinyurl.com/3xeh4w4x Join our Patreon today at patreon.com/thebusinessmen Follow on socials @thebusinessmenpod The Business Men is a production of Sony Music Entertainment. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us at @sonypodcasts To bring your brand to life in this podcast, email podcastadsales@sonymusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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'This Skincare Ingredient Changed My Life’ - Nic Taylor on Launching 47 Skin

Mar 3100:46:20Tap to summarize

Nic Taylor, founder of 47 Skin, shares his truly unbelievable origin story, one that starts not in a lab or a boardroom, but with his grandma Pat. In this episode, Nic shares the full journey from the moment his grandma discovered the now‑famous compound by complete chance, to Nic realising its potential, to the wild early days of trying to build a business around something that almost never existed. Joel and Ben dig into the science behind the discovery, the emotional family connection at the heart of the brand, the hurdles of turning an accidental breakthrough into a real product, and the surreal moment Nic realised he might actually be onto something big. Fill out our skincare survey here: https://tinyurl.com/3xeh4w4x Join our Patreon today at patreon.com/thebusinessmen Follow on socials @thebusinessmenpod The Business Men is a production of Sony Music Entertainment. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us at @sonypodcasts To bring your brand to life in this podcast, email podcastadsales@sonymusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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First Ever For Skin Samples…Are They Any Good? Joel and Ben Give Us Their Verdict

‘What You ACTUALLY Need To Know About Skincare’ - Sarah Jossel Get’s To The Truth Of The Beauty Industry

’70% Of Your Immune System Lives In Your Gut. Look After It!’ - Dr Megan Rossi On Tuning In To Your Gut Health

'When you’re pushed into a corner, you HAVE to innovate' - Luke Hersheson on building a global brand

James Welsh on Korean skincare, breaking myths and why 'Natural Isn't Always Better’

We Opened Fallow… Then COVID Shut Us Down 3 Days Later

YOU Get To Choose Our Brands Future!

“You’ve Got To Play The Long Game In Skincare” - Wayne Goss On Why Consistency Beats Expensive Products

From MTV to Canned Bloody Mary’ - Will Best’s Bloody Business Venture

'This Skincare Ingredient Changed My Life’ - Nic Taylor on Launching 47 Skin