In this episode, Josh Baron speaks with Natey Ndlovu, a lawyer in the midst of transitioning from firm life to starting her own criminal defense practice. As Natey navigates her final days at her current firm, she shares the overwhelming challenges of managing deadlines, client notifications, and the emotional aspects of making a major career change. Josh offers practical time management insights for knowledge workers and shares his own journey of creating better boundaries around client consultations.

Key Takeaways

Time Management for Knowledge Workers

Time management isn't a problem to "solve" but part of the human condition
Knowledge work can't be measured by the same metrics as factory work
Looking at monthly results rather than hourly productivity often provides a better measure of success
Sometimes activities that don't look productive (like staring out the window) can lead to breakthrough insights

The Emotional Side of Transitions

Leaving a firm often feels like "breaking up" with someone when you know it's not working out
The relief of finally making the decision can be significant
Managing transitions involves both practical and emotional challenges

Better Ways to Measure Your Day

Instead of counting tasks completed, ask: "Was I engaged? Was I kind?"
To-do lists will never be completely finished - making peace with this is essential
Sometimes necessary work isn't exciting but still needs to be done

The Consultation Block Strategy

Setting specific times for consultations instead of being always available
Having staff screen potential clients to ensure fit
Results in higher sign-up rates and better preparation
Allows you to show up as your best self for client interactions

Overcoming Fear of Setting Boundaries

Initial fears about losing business are often unfounded
Setting boundaries can actually improve both client experience and your quality of life
The "catastrophizing" mindset often prevents positive practice improvements

Mentioned Resources

"Four Thousand Weeks" by Oliver Burkeman
"Meditations for Mortals" by Oliver Burkeman
"Slow Productivity" by Cal Newport

About Natey Ndlovu

Natey is transitioning from an established law firm to launching her own criminal defense practice. Her experience includes working as a public defender.

Natey's firm: Cornick Ndlovu, PLC
https://www.virginia-criminal.com/

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