The Candace Owens Show: The Lies of Modern Feminism

Summary

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The Candace Owens Show: The Lies of Modern Feminism

Date: April 18, 2021 | Host: Candace Owens (PragerU)
Episode Focus: A critical exploration of modern feminism, its origins, its effects on society and gender roles, and its perceived failure to deliver on the promise of happiness and equality for women.

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Episode Overview

This episode features Candace Owens and multiple guests engaging in a spirited critique of modern feminism. The conversation spans topics including the erasure of gender differences, evolving social expectations, the impact on relationships, family dynamics, and the unintended consequences of sexual liberation. The discussion is rich with personal anecdotes, societal observations, and a perspective that positions modern feminism as both misguided and detrimental to women's well-being and fulfillment.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Erasure of Gender Differences and Modern Feminism

• [00:21] The conversation begins with a critique of modern feminism’s aim to erase biological differences between men and women, particularly as it relates to the gender fluidity movement and issues like abortion.
  • "Rather than rejoicing in the privilege...of being able to carry a child...they want to take it away so they can say there's really no difference between men and women. And they think that's going to usher in this egalitarian utopia... It's not going to happen." [B, 00:21]

2. Rejecting the Feminist Label

• [01:22–01:36] Candace and her guest both reject the label “feminist,” arguing the original goals of the movement have been achieved and what remains is overreach.
  • "We have equality with men in most circumstances. We have more than equality with men. Plus, we have all of these privileges on top of it..." [A, 01:36]
  • "When I think of feminism today, I think of the Lena Dunham types…what they determine to be freedom, to me looks like misery...” [A, 01:36]

3. Workplace Dynamics and #MeToo

• [02:52–04:20] The discussion critiques the risk-averse climate in workplaces post-#MeToo, suggesting it's "unsustainable" and claiming it emasculates men.
  • _"You could bring down your whole career unless you deploy it once with 100% accuracy that the person you're trying it on is to be your life mate." _ [C, 03:28]
  • "You're turning men sort of into this tail in between...tail in between, the legs...Emasculate men. But...the feminists don't want that...they're making men they don't want." [A & C, 04:20–04:28]

4. Contradictions in Feminism’s Impact on Relationships

• [04:55–05:47] Criticism of radical feminists who complain about men's lack of initiative while simultaneously punishing traditional masculinity.
  • "Has me too gone too far? This guy won't make a move on me…even if a guy would tread that territory, he's read her pieces. You’ve got to be crazy to go up to her and say, would you like to go out on a date?" [A, 04:55–05:11]

5. Rise of Promiscuity and Decline of Marriage

• [05:18–06:20, 10:19–11:45] The group laments the messaging that encourages women to emulate “men’s” behavior, especially in terms of sex and career, while noting negative impacts like unhappiness and family decline.
  • "If I was listening to the scam of feminism today, it would say, go out and be like men...You should do it without a man. Adopt a child. You shouldn't want to pursue marriage. Marriage is bondage..." [A, 05:18]
  • "Since second wave feminism since the 1970s, women have become less happy, not just relative to men, which is also true, but in absolute terms." [D, 05:53]
  • "Being married, having children, those are some of the most fulfilling experiences in life." [H, 10:19]

6. Personal Regrets and Family Fulfillment

• [06:20–07:16] A poignant caller’s testimony: a successful, single woman regrets following feminist advice at university, describing loneliness despite material success.
  • "I want you to know, Dennis, that I deeply regret that I followed the feminist advice at college. Because when I come home after a successful day at work to an empty home, no husband, no children, no family, it's not good." [E, 06:23]

7. Masculinity, Structure, and the Black Community

• [07:17–08:47] Discussion of “toxic masculinity,” the importance of healthy male authority, and feminism’s particular impact on black families.
  • "It was toxic masculinity that saved me...this version of feminism today...is feeding into this idea of a breakdown of the family." [A, 07:22]
  • "If you look back...it didn't just like, discourage a man being around. It kicked a man out of the house...Uncle Sam...became the male role model..." [F, 08:22–08:56]

8. Cultural Value, Self-Worth, and Over-Sexualization

• [09:41–15:21, 17:05–18:29] Lively debate about sexual liberation, Instagram culture, and what constitutes empowerment versus exploitation.
  • "You are a human being...not to be given away. You're not a commodity...So I swear, I think it all comes back to teaching women to love themselves." [G, 09:41]
  • "This culture, we're actually finding out millennials and Gen Z are having a lot less sex than Gen X and the baby boomers...Everyone is just hooked on porn. Everybody. And it is a culture that is literally masturbatory..." [D, 15:38–16:25]
  • "You can watch porn by going to Instagram...Women upset that they can't show their breasts on Instagram...calling that...an injustice, a social injustice." [A, 17:20]

9. Marriage, Fulfillment, and Gender Complementarity

• [18:29–23:22] The hosts conclude that authentic fulfillment for most women comes from family-life, not career, asserting that gender complementarity—not sameness—is key to happiness.
  • "Everyone wants to be loved. Everyone longs for a relationship, like historically a marriage...based on something real...not something superficial that ages out..." [G, 18:29]
  • "No man denies we need a woman...but a woman needs a good man just as badly." [E, 19:27]
  • "My marriage. The highlight of my day is when I get to cook dinner for my husband...I have had lunch with the President of the United States, and I am telling you, the thing that gives me the greatest pleasure is feeding my husband..." [A, 22:28–23:04]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Rejecting Feminism:

  • "Let it burn...There's nothing that they're fighting for that I agree with anymore. Yeah, it seems overprivileged. It seems bratty." [A, 01:36]

• On Sexual Liberation:

  • "For 10,000 years, men have wanted women to think they want sex like we do. And it finally happened. And here I am, 20 years old. God, you are a good God." [E, 13:11]

• On Family Fulfillment:

  • "The thing that gives me the great, greatest pleasure is feeding my husband." [A, 23:04]

• On Erasing Gender Roles:

  • "There are things that women can do that men can't do...But they're not willing to do that. They want to say, 'Well, I can do all the same things that a man can.'” [B, 21:21]

• On Loneliness and Regret:

  • "I want you to know, Dennis, that I deeply regret that I followed the feminist advice at college..." [E, 06:23]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:21–01:24 — Modern feminism and erasure of gender difference
• 01:22–02:35 — The meaning (and rejection) of feminism today
• 02:52–04:27 — #MeToo, workplace dating, and men’s risk aversion
• 05:18–05:53 — The “scam” of contemporary feminism
• 06:20–07:16 — Testimony: successful but lonely after following feminist advice
• 08:22–08:56 — Feminism’s effect on black families
• 10:19–11:45 — Fulfillment in marriage and motherhood, generational contrasts
• 13:11–13:49 — Sexual liberation from a male perspective
• 15:38–16:25 — Sex, porn addiction, and societal consequences
• 18:29–19:27 — Commitment, marriage, and generational changes
• 22:28–23:22 — Personal fulfillment from traditional roles

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Tone and Style

The episode is characterized by frankness, humor, and a mix of personal storytelling and social critique. Owens and her guests use pointed language, sarcasm, and strong opinions to challenge prevailing feminist narratives. The conversation is conversational yet polemical, consistently rejecting modern liberal feminist positions in favor of traditional values and gender complementariness.

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This summary is designed to provide a comprehensive view of the episode’s principal arguments, vivid moments, and important timestamps—serving both as a study guide and a substitute for those who haven’t listened.

Transcript

[A]

Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we are rolling into another episode of the Candace Owens Show.

[B]

It goes back to the feminist argument. At least the modern day feminist, at least the modern day feminist argument of saying, while women should be able to do all the things that a man can. And so what they try to do is they try to erase any physical, biological differences between men and women. Of course, we see that in this whole gender fluidity movement that what does it really mean to be a man and a woman? Well, abortion really plays a part in that because if a man can physically walk away from a pregnancy, then a feminist would say, well, a woman should be able to physically walk away from a pregnancy too. So rather than rejoicing in the privilege, and to use a leftist word, the true privilege of being able to carry a child no matter how hard the circumstances, because I understand circumstances are really hard for women sometimes. But instead of rejoicing in that privilege and that uniqueness of femininity, that uniqueness of being a woman, they want to take it away so they can say there's really no difference between men and women. And they think that's going to usher in this egalitarian utopia where men and women don't have any differences between them and equality will be achieved. It's not going to happen.

[A]

Do you consider yourself a feminist?

[B]

No, I don't.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

I don't.

[A]

Very, very interesting.

[B]

There's a lot of people that want to. And I know you said that you're not either. There's a lot of people who want to reclaim feminism. I don't really feel like, let it burn right now.

[A]

Like, let it burn. I don't, I don't really see what we're fighting for anymore. Like, I get it. Like, the movement had to be started because we actually did not have equality with men. We have equality with men in most circumstances. We have more than equality with men. It's like, plus we got, we have all of these privileges on top of it. And when I think of feminism today, I think of the Lena Dunham types. Like, Lena Dunham out there. She's obviously miserable, right? And she's not shaving her armpits. And she's. And she's, and she's going out there and saying that this is freedom. It actually, what they identify, what they, what they determine to be freedom, to me looks like misery, right? We don't need men. We don't want men. Actually, you do need men. Like, actually, we cannot pretend physically, like, biology exists. Like, this is not a good platform to have abolished men like, we don't want any more men. And the movement has become so radicalized, and the only way for people to actually pull it back is to just let it burn. I'm not a feminist. I don't need to be a feminist. There's nothing that they're fighting for that I agree with anymore. Yeah, it seems overprivileged. It seems bratty. You have time to put on a pussy hat and go march and scream during the weekday. You probably have. You probably have achieved equality.

[B]

Right? And I just want to tell Lena Dunham, like, you not shaving your armpits is not doing anything for me. So if I'm just gonna tell you woman, a woman, I feel totally fought for already, like, you can go ahead and shave your armpits, girl. It's not accomplishing that much for me

[C]

since still now about 20% of people meet their life partner in the workplace. What's the deal with asking somebody out for a coffee or a drink? And as far as I can work it out, and I quote some people I've spoken to in the book about this, but as far as I can work out, the deal is currently this. You can't do it and shouldn't do it because you could bring down your whole career unless you deploy it once with 100% accuracy that the person you're trying it on is to be your life maid.

[A]

That's about right.

[C]

That's like. That's. That's a really.

[A]

That's.

[C]

That's a big risk for that coffee or drink request.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And unsustainable. Totally unsustainable.

[A]

I make the joke and it's. And I'm only half joking when I say if, you know, being gay could be a choice. If I was a man, I'd choose to be gay. Because you're always. You're always treading in really scary territory with this rise of radical feminism. And here's the. The other side of it, which no one is really discussing, is that these radical feminists who make this a problem, right? Who everything, it's now me too. You look at me, you find me attractive. I've been me too'd. Right? You're me too'd. Um, if you. If you said a joke that was, you know, maybe a sexual nod or something, said that I looked good today. Right. Or sexy today. You're now me too'd. The other side of that, though, is that what you're doing is you're turning men sort of into this tail in between. Tail in between, the legs.

[C]

Dogs, they're trying to emasculate men.

[A]

Emasculate men. But the biological underpinning of this is very interesting, is the feminists don't want that.

[C]

Absolutely. They're making men they don't want.

[A]

They don't want. Right. A stunning piece, and you have to read it. Promise me you'll read it. Is Lena Dunham recently wrote a piece in the New York Times about how she just, like, she could. Oh, my God, she's totally nuts. You can actually see she's now coping with the fact. And she actually says in the article, has me too gone too far? This guy won't make a move on me. And I'm like, you're the author of Radical. Yeah, you're the author of Radical Feminism. This is what you made your bed, Lane. It meant, oh, no, no. Men hit on me. No. Men come up to me.

[B]

What do you think?

[A]

Who would dare come up to you and say any.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It's not because of the way she looks. She is disgusting, in my opinion. I think she's gross. But aside from that, even if a guy would tread that territory, he's read her pieces. You've got to be crazy to go up to her and say, would you like to go out on a date?

[C]

Yeah. No. It's like going up to a nuclear device.

[B]

That's exactly right.

[C]

There's a mushroom cloud every which way you go.

[A]

If I was listening to the scam of feminism today, it would say, go out and be like men. Be the most productive that you can be. You should want to work for the next 50 years and provide for your family. You should do it without a man. Adopt a child. You shouldn't want to pursue marriage. Marriage is bondage. And that's pretty much the scam of and the myth of feminism. Right. But at their core, I think all of these women are running around thinking that they just want men to see them. But men don't want these radicalized women that are saying, if we have children, I'm going to let them pick their gender.

[D]

I mean, that's like having little babies is the new term. It's not he or she, it's babies.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And they're. I mean, we now have the social scientific data. Since second wave feminism since the 1970s, women have become less happy, not just relative to men, which is also true, but in absolute terms. And the left is shocked by this. They say, no, but now women have all of these new ideologies. Right. And it's making them miserable. Maybe something's wrong with that. Ideology of feminism.

[E]

I got a. I got a call. I do a male, female hour on my radio show every week. And I have for about three, 15 to 20 years. So a woman called me, she said, I'm 50 years old, I have three degrees, I'm very successful entrepreneur, CEO. And I want you to know, Dennis, that I deeply regret that I followed the feminist advice at college. Because when I come home after a successful day at work to an empty home, no husband, no children, no family, it's not good. She was not self pitying. I actually had her call. I've written a thousand columns. They're all on the Internet. A thousand. And I never did this before or after I transcribed her call. And that was my column that week.

[A]

Wow.

[E]

All I said was, here is what a woman said to me on my radio show.

[A]

I really do believe that modern feminism encourages male absence. It encourages it because it's become toxic. They use terms like toxic masculinity, right? And I say to myself, all of their examples of the idea of what it means to be a man now is toxic. They think, oh, this is a man. Masculinity is wrong. There's something inherently wrong with being a masculine man. And to me, I always say that it was toxic masculinity that saved me. You know, I had a healthy fear of my grandfather. Nobody played around with my grandfather. We still don't play around with my grandfather. You know, and it's just there's a certain level of respect when you're in his home, there are rules. And because I had that healthy fear, I was, I guess, more responsive to that sort of authority. When I had to go out in real life, you know, I believed in structure. And yet this version of feminism today, we have women that are basically promoting men should act like women. Right. And women should act like men. There's all of this confusion. You can pick your gender, you can do what you want. And ultimately, what I think it's doing is feeding into this idea of a breakdown of the family. Yeah.

[F]

You know, feminism as a branch of liberalism, you know, has had a very devastating impact on the black community more than anything else, I believe. And that's not just an opinion. If you look back and we don't have time to get into a lot of it today, but I can support it if someone were to come up and demand, where'd you get that from? I could show them the research. And it didn't just like, discourage a man being around. It kicked a man out of the house.

[A]

That's right.

[F]

In Other words, you know, you're not needed here. Who became the male role model, the male figure in the home? Uncle Sam. All right?

[G]

The government and pro man. I just happen to know that many of them will take what they can get. Right? Right. And there are women who will take what they can get in a different way. And so you have to hold the line, even if you're the last human being on earth who subscribes to this idea, who gives flying monkeys behind about your own integrity, being exclusive, not available to anyone who wants to click on your profile, you are exclusive. You are special. You are to be preserved. You're not to be given away. You're not a commodity. You're not something to be thrown in a trash can. Right. A magazine, you know, you are a human being. And so I swear, I think it all comes back to teaching women to love themselves. I really think it's there. And having, hopefully a mother to teach you that and a father to teach you that is important. I think the breakup of the family and the fatherless families impact men and women differently. And for women, they can be far more susceptible to a society that says, please give us you for free.

[H]

And the problem is exactly what you said. Girls aren't being told how wonderful it is to be a girl. And all those wonderful things that you just mentioned that they have to look forward to are not held up in society anymore as a positive and wonderful future. Being married, having children, those are some of the most fulfilling experiences in life.

[A]

Right? And actually what's taken a hold in culture and society is this toxic form of feminism which has emerged, which I do my best to speak to women about, and let them know that that is a scam. You fall for that. That is a scam. Believe that rejecting men, rejecting order, not wanting to shower, you know, growing your armpits, hair out is somehow freeing. Right. If you believe that making yourself sexually available to anyone and everyone and being promiscuous is going to somehow make you freer, you're going to be shocked when you wake up one day and realize that you have nothing that has actually fulfilled you because you've rejected it. You've rejected order, and you have signed up for chaos because we have, again, a culture, a society, and a media that perpetuates the idea that somehow conservative values are bondage and liberal values or freedom when it is, in fact, the opposite.

[G]

Totally agree with you.

[H]

I mean, you know, think back to your grandmother or I think back to my grandmothers, and I think back to, you know, the idea that these women were less strong than women today is a joke. They were so strong. Men couldn't get away with anything with either of my grandmothers. And it wasn't because they were feminists. It's because they had integrity and they knew right from wrong and you couldn't push them around. And today you have these. Me too. Women who say, you know, these young women who are following you call themselves feminists. They wear the, you know, fuchsia hats and they say, oh, I couldn't stand up to so and so because he had a job that was superior to mine. And I just think, wow, my grandmothers would have never fallen for that. Why are young women today being pushed around?

[A]

There is an actress. I don't even know what she's in, so I don't know why I'm calling her an actress. I literally only know her by her boobs. Okay? Because every time she's upset about something, she gets naked. This is her. Her name is Emma Rotijajowski. I know. I butchered that name. Okay? Very. Her body. Great body, right? So the way that she gets attention is every time she gets upset, she takes her bra off on Instagram and she has her boobs. She goes marching naked. She just wears her jeans. She says, ah, you know, like, F you guys. F men. So she like, naked picture. F you, Harvey Weinstein. How is this getting. Sticking it to the man. So I say this. My husband talked with us. He's like, all right, I guess Emma's mad again. We have to. Men have to look at her boobs. I guess Emma's really upset again. We're forced to look at her boobs because, darn the patriarchy. Men are winning. They're getting the best deal ever. So women have now decided that promiscuity is a sign of freedom. So women are saying, we'll give it to you for free, right? We will have sex with whoever we want. We will take our clothes off whenever we want. How. Please explain to me how men are losing in this.

[E]

Oh, that's very funny you should say that. Cuz I. I was at college at the. At the cusp of feminism. And I've. I've never said this publicly and I. But I.

[A]

You loved feminism, didn't you?

[E]

I loved what?

[A]

You loved it. Every second of them throwing their bras.

[E]

No, that is the point. I remember saying to a friend, because I'm a good guy, but I'm also a guy.

[A]

I'm also a guy.

[E]

And I remember saying to a friend, I can't believe it. For 10,000 years, men have wanted women to think that they want sex like we do. And it finally happened. And here I am, 20 years old. God, you are a good God. I remember going through this routine with my friends. I couldn't believe it.

[A]

Okay, the girls are walking down the street naked again.

[E]

Or just. Oh, no. Commitment is completely unnecessary. Oh, really? You gotta be kidding.

[A]

Tell me this is not how men think.

[E]

No. So what has happened? So here is the. Of course it's how men think. But here is the amazing thing. So they. So the women bought the feminist lie. Not the feminist lie. In the feminist lie, you're just like men, but they get depressed when they act like men sexually. I'm like, so now the depression. They're in far greater states of depression. They're far lonelier than men. And that's why you have all the rules now. Oh, well, I didn't really say, okay. Well. What does that mean, you didn't say, okay? So what they're saying is, I am not to blame for the consensual sex we had, which has made me depressed. He is to blame for the consensual sex I had that made me depressed.

[A]

What do you think about the over sexualized culture? So if you were on. I were on a Tinder date and I'm like, yeah, you know, I've slept with like 25 guys. I'm, you know, I'm free. I always use protection, though. You know, it's. Come on, it's 2019, Michael. It's 2019.

[D]

Well, Candace, I have to ask. Are you asking me at 20 or at 29? Are you asking me? Because it's very alluring to a lot of men. I mean, I'm sort of joking about how men convince women to be feminists and give them free sex. But if you're an 18 to, I don't know, if you're a guy in college, for instance, how do you say no to that? Especially in this culture, which tells you, have sex, young, have sex a lot. That's all you gotta do. Sex, sex, sex.

[A]

Would you marry her?

[D]

Of course not.

[A]

Of course not.

[D]

Of course not. Nobody, I mean, nobody would. I think women are the same way. No woman looks at a man who's just sleeping around with, you know, a different woman every night and says, ah, yes, that's the man. I want to raise my children right. Oh, what a great role model.

[A]

Feels irresponsible, of course. Like, you can't. You're not gonna be able to take care of the home because you can't take care of yourself.

[D]

And obsession with sex is not accidental. The obsession, I mean, sex is. It's the earliest profession or the two earliest professions are prostitution and politics, and they're very similar. It's essential to our nature. Sex is fundamental to who we are. It can also become an addiction. You know, when Tiger woods got into trouble a few years ago because it turns out that the greatest athlete in the world was sleeping with beautiful women, we all joked about it. So, oh yes, he must have a horrible addiction. It's called being really rich and good looking and athletic. He goes home with a lot of women. But sex really can become an addiction. And in this culture, we're actually finding out millennials and Gen Z are having a lot less sex than Gen X and the baby boomers. You think we're having more sex? No. Everyone is just hooked on porn. Everybody. And it is a culture that is literally masturbatory, that becomes an addiction. I mean, you now see this all throughout the country and throughout the world. This is happening in Japan and other places like any other drug. People are becoming hooked on sex and hooked on porn. And what an addiction does is it causes you to stop thinking. It enslaves you. It makes you prone to certain behavior. And when you're not thinking, that's when the people who want to grab power can come in and force it on you.

[A]

Our culture in America has shifted to one that is all about sex. And, and this is largely due to feminism, right? This whole idea of like again, once, exact same time frame. He's talking about where they wanted to undo everything. Well, you know what? In that time frame, throughout the 50s, you know, women were, were wearing poodle scoot poodle skirts. Pardon? And they were always dressed from head to toe. Same for the men. They were wearing suits all the time. Well, they're a part of throwing out what American culture was, was also saying this is sexual repression. And this was really kind of brought this whole idea of sexual repression and your inner libido was brought to us by, by right. And, and people started perpetuating this idea that, you know, if you can release your sexual, your inner sexual libido and all of these things, you'll be less of a bigot. Honestly, this is the kind of stuff that they were writing, right? It's because you're, you're sexually oppressed. That's what makes you a racist. That's what makes you this. And we sort of gave birth to this, this culture of, well, let's take it all off, right? This is us being free. This is us being sexually free. And now I look around and I'm like, you can, you can watch porn without ever logging on to a porn website. You can watch porn by going to Instagram. Yeah, right. I mean, girls bar, what's legal? I mean, hashtag free the nipple. Women upset that they can't put their. That they can't show their breasts on Instagram. Yet men can be at the. You know, can show themselves without a shirt on, which, like, this is very different. Right. You know, seeing a man without a shirt on is not the same effect as seeing a woman that. That has her boobs out. And they're pretending they don't understand that and they're calling that, you know, a. An injustice, a social injustice.

[G]

So I think that the most women listening would hear us as moralizing or preaching or, or judging or something. But here's the way that you get through, I think, to them is to say, this is really about love. Everyone wants to be loved. Everyone longs for a relationship, like historically a marriage, and hopefully still where you have commitment, you can rely on it. You know, it's there. It's based on something real, not something superficial that ages out and it doesn't really matter in the long run. When you cheapened a woman or women, you look around. I mean, the proof is in the marriage and divorce rate. In my grandmother's generation, they didn't have all this smut. You look around, I can think of so many women in her generation. Her friends, our neighbors who had their husbands right there with them every step of the way till the day they died. How many of us are going to have that this generation?

[E]

Men need women and women need men. But you see, no man denies we need a woman. That's the irony. It is not unmasculine of me to acknowledge I need a good woman, but a woman needs a good man just as badly.

[A]

It's so true. It's so true. And it's sad because the symbiotic nature of me just getting married, for people to know now that I'm married, I'm just like, guys, oh my gosh. It was all a lie. When I say it was all a lie.

[E]

That's what I said.

[A]

It was all a lie to believe. If you. The classes I took, I mean, you're raised to believe you do not need a man. Not only do you not need a man, it is a token of how strong and how good you are if

[E]

you do it with your. It's an achievement that's Right.

[A]

All alive.

[E]

And you can have a child and the child doesn't need a father.

[A]

No, it doesn't. Because you can do it by yourself.

[E]

So passe.

[A]

Right.

[E]

The loneliest people are. By the way, according to polls, this is not a Republican or conservative viewpoint. The loneliest people, according to the academic studies, are single parents.

[A]

I do not doubt that at all. This is what I always say. I had a young black woman come up to me on campus. I spoke at Trinity College, I think, in January. And she came up to me and she was doing her little routine about what we are saying, that women can't do it without men. I said, no, no, no, no. I've never said a woman can't do without a man. There have been tons of women who have lost their husbands in horrible, tragic Kobe Bryant, you know, gone. Right. Do I think Vanessa just can't do it now? I think she can do it. But you know what? I know that it would have been easier and better if she had a partner that was beside her side. That that is the way that she would have preferred it. Right. We should not be setting our preferences to doing it without men if we have to. Right.

[E]

When we have to send the boys

[A]

to war, it's a totally like. But that should not be. You shouldn't be encouraging women to want that, to pursue that, because you know what's on the other side of that? You know, it's misery. You know, it's unhappiness. Let them know the joys of marriage.

[B]

But you're absolutely right. What they're trying to do is integrate what it actually means to be a woman, because it actually says a lot about what they think about womanhood and what they think about femininity, that it is inferior to men. So we need to be more like men in order to be really equal. Well, I believe that women are unique. I believe that there are things that women can do that men can't do. I mean, beyond just carrying a child, giving birth and all of that. But there are things that women are better at than men. There are ways that we can lead that are better than how men can lead and vice versa. It's a very complementary in relationship that we should have between the genders, of course, acknowledging equal worth of both genders. But they're not willing to do that. They want to say, well, I can do all the same things that a man can. I want to be drafted like a man.

[A]

No, they never want that. Yeah, they always stop right there.

[B]

Well, aoc. Aoc the other day, she said, you know, I believe that all genders should be drafted. And so they think that they want all of that?

[A]

No, they don't want that.

[B]

They think want all of that.

[A]

I get to go around the world and share my ideas, and I'm running two businesses by myself. What do you think is the thing that gives me the greatest pleasure in life?

[E]

What has given you the greatest pleasure as of this moment?

[A]

Yeah, in this moment and also, like, in a day, what is the highlight of my day?

[E]

Well, maybe your marriage.

[A]

Yeah, my marriage. The highlight of my day is when I get to cook dinner for my husband.

[E]

I totally get it. And my wife would answer the same thing, although she doesn't cook dinner for me because I prefer to eat out. I'm a very strange husband. I know, but she. Yes.

[A]

And putting food on the table, sitting down, talking to my husband, feeding our friends. Those are the things that give me the greatest. I have had lunch with the President of the United States, and I am telling you, the thing that gives me the great, greatest pleasure is feeding my husband.

[E]

Right.

[A]

Making him a sandwich. Okay, what was this all about? What was this whole sport of we

[E]

need to be like men, be like

[A]

men, act like men, dress like men, talk like men, get naked, have sex with men, give them everything they want. For whose happiness?

[E]

Right?

[A]

Whose happiness? Thank you, guys for watching the latest episode of the Candace Owens Show. I hope you guys enjoyed the conversation as much as I did. As many of you guys already know, PragerU is a 501c3 nonprofit organization, which means we need your help to keep all of our content free to the public. Please consider making a tax deductible donation today. I would really appreciate your support.