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Welcome to the Carpool Podcast with Kelly Rondo Fishfire. I'm wearing Athleisure. Everyone else is just in, like, their play clothes. Tyler's in a hoodie, and we're like, george, come on. He's like, almost ready. Comes out cowboy hat, belt button down, tucked in in his jeans. It's his boots.
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I'm just like. And Liz, it's so much easier for me to get rid of my kids stuff than my own, which is, like, another introspective thing that I need to like. I'm learning a lot about myself.
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Your mom time off starts. Welcome back to the Carpool Podcast with Kelly and Liz. Hey, Liz.
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Hey, Kel. I feel like I didn't talk to you at all this weekend.
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I was busy. I know I was busy just, like, making, like, everything. My personality, you know? So I'm week one, no sugar, and you're saying you can tell a difference in my face?
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I mean, when you were, like, showing up on your stories, I was like. Like, it's not like you're just kind of like, have a glow about you.
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Yeah.
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And I can definitely tell. I didn't think you were puffy in the face before. Like, I would have never described your face as puffy or inflamed, but I have seen it less. So I'm like, wow, maybe it really. Maybe you really were just, like, a little bit more inflamed. Yeah, we thought.
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Overall, I'm feeling pretty good. I'm having, like, some health issues today, which, like, argh. Not the vi. Arg. I woke up with, like, very itchy and, like, some highs on my face. Like, my whole body was itchy. So I went to urgent care, and, you know, they're like, you need to get into your allergist. I'm like, I. Obviously. So I called my. So they gave me some stuff to help. I called my allergist. I have an appointment, but not till March 12th. But they're like, if you get worse, call us back. And I'm like, okay, I will. So I'm fine. I just, like, don't like dealing with these kinds of things as no one does.
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And it's the waiting game too. It's like, March 12th. That's, like, several weeks away.
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And I just don't know. Like, there's been so much with, like, the health issues I've had earlier in the year. I just, like, don't, like what's real and what's, like, my anxiety or it's, like, telling me something's worse than it is. And when you have these, like, symptoms, it's like, I'm really itchy. Is my throat closing up? It's like, no, your throat's not closing up. You're anxious that your throat could close up. You're fine. And. And it's just kind of like a mind game. So anyways, just, like, slightly different tune than I was, like, a couple of weeks ago because, like, this was kind of like a bummer.
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I know.
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But I'm gonna. But one thing about me is I'm gonna figure it out because I am the CEO of my health, so.
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Totally. And whatever ship you're the CEO of, Kel, it's set for success 100%.
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So anyway, sugar free for seven days. And I'll just, like, I won't bore you guys with it too much, but overall cravings more minimal than I was expecting.
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Okay.
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I'm enjoying a detox over, like, a more traditional. I'm using air quotes diet. Did I talk about this last time? Because, like, I did. Because, like, I can't. And that's still. I'm taking, like, a lot of. That's helping me stay a lot more disciplined. Yeah. And I'm actually very happy that I cut out honey and maple syrup because, like, I can't imagine how exciting honey's gonna be.
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Yeah.
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You know, and, like, if I didn't keep those out, like, then I wouldn't want to go back to them.
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Okay.
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So I'm kind of enjoying.
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That will be a good. When you. When you are done with your detox, and I'm sure post detox, you're going to still want to have a more limited sugar intake than you want. Then you can be like, oh, maple syrup, honey, my sweet treats, whatever.
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Yeah. And I've talked to people who have done sugar detoxes, and they're like, no, I went back to eating sugar, but I just ate a lot less sugar. And I'm like, sure, I like that.
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Yeah.
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So.
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Well, you're into that. I'm into my Lenten. My.
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Did you come up with 40 days
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of less me and chat GPT. Chat GPT did.
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It's really good.
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Thank you. I couldn't think of a snappy name for it. I was like, here's what I'm doing. Chat. Like, what is a snappy way that I can do this for 40 days of less? So cute. And I am loving it. What? I really like that I did. And I, like, made this up. And it somehow. It's like, I made it up really well, because what I did was I have 40 areas of my home and then also 820 items. Pick a number. One through 40 equals 820 that I'm getting rid of. And having kind of that like baseline of area to start of the area that I'm going to declutter has been really helpful because like if you just look around your house, you're like, I can't get rid of 8, 820 things of like what I'm seeing. Like I just dove into the depths of my cord box and I got rid of 25 items that I'm not even gonna notice are gone actually.
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Sure.
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And so that has, it's just been, it's been a really good way to like force me to come face to face with things like my cord box and really ask myself, how many USBC chargers does one need?
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Uh huh.
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And I. And it's not. And I can tell you it's not eight.
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How many.
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That's extra ones, mind you. That's not the ones that are like plugged in that I shoot on a daily basis. So it's really forced me to like come face to face with things. It's forced me to come face to face with like some clothing items like my swimsuits and just like really wonder if and when I, you know, in the same size that I once was, is this even going to be the lifestyle? Like, is this even. I don't need to have the swimsuit that I wore when I was 24 if and when I ever get to that size again because like the, it's a stringy top. It's like I'm a mom, please. Like I don't need to wear this
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totally with like, with pre baby clothes. I, I've never held on to them that much because I was also the mindset, like if I'm gonna hold on to something for three years till I fit in it again, if I get back to that size, I'm buying myself from a new pair of pants is what I'm doing.
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Right. Right. I don't need my, I don't need Abercrombie jeans that have sat in a storage thing in my basement for four years. Like, yeah. So it's really forcing me to like do a deep dive in my home. And I'll tell you what, there is nothing better than the serotonin boost. And we've talked about this. The serotonin boost of a clean area. It's so much, it is so much better than buying something when I open my organized medicine cabinet. Serotonin boost Every single time.
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Yeah, we've talked about this with, with debt free mom care creates contentment like it is. It rings so true. Like if you are getting that itch to go out and buy something or do something, like what would like a perfectly organized closet do for you though? Like, think about that.
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It, it does so much more because like buying something feels good in the moment and then maybe the Amazon box comes and then you got to deal with all. You got to deal with the Amazon box. You got to break the box down, you got to unwrap it, you got to find like it's, it's actually, it lasts. So it is so short lived the amount of time that that serotonin boost lasts in an organized space that you use every day. Oh, it feels so great on totally. So it's going really well.
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So I don't, the only thing I don't understand about your challenge is like so if you got cord box and you got 25, do you have to get rid of 25 things from cord box?
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That's where it's kind of confusing. So I, I had pulled the number 38 and I knew that I wanted to do my base. My, my closet floor I didn't have. I had 15 items between my closet floor and other stuff in my closet to get rid of. And so then I was like, I still have a long way to go. I only have 15. I got to get to 38. What's like an area that I know is like there's gonna be a lot and my, my I, I reach for my cord box. I still need to organize like my overall closet that my cord box was in. But I at least started with my cord box. So I actually got over the amount that I was supposed to pull for for today. So I'm winning.
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Have you pulled 40 yet or no,
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I haven't pulled 40. And actually I do think when I do pull for I, I think when I do pull 40, I'm going to have to go through my pre baby clothes which I haven't opened that box yet. I'm kind of nervous for. But I know there will be a lot in there. But it's cr. Like 40 items is a lot. And this is after you've already gone through it like several days. Like, yeah, it is actually hard.
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Are you doing any of Maddie's stuff or is that like.
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And I'm not doing any of Maddie's. I'm doing because Maddie does a really good job at keeping.
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So does Tyler.
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His like, I think he has some things that he has held on to for too long. That like, I don't get why we need this rugby flag, but like, maybe we need the big I'm. That's his journey. It's not my journey to say whether or not we need this rugby flag or not, but he does a really good job of like going through his clothes and his shoes and all that stuff. He's a very organized man, actually. So I'm the problem for sure in the relationship, but I am doing stuff which it's so much easier for me to get rid of my kids stuff than my own, which is like another introspective thing that I need to like. I'm learning a lot about myself.
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No, that is interesting. I'm learning a lot about myself. We're having, we're. I'm really proud of us. We're really kind of on the ball. Well, speaking of stuff that I didn't buy, I went to my dinner auction this weekend.
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You didn't post enough.
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Well, here's the thing. It's like every other thing says my kids school all over it. So like, I'm not trying, I'm just like, you know, sure, I know everyone, everyone wanted more. I wanted to give more. It was just. I found it very hard to create content at a child's dinner auction.
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I understand.
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But I did just like, I, I got the front row tickets, which was really good. Now luckily they were selling a left side and a right side. I am happy to report that the right side went for what the left side went. So like, I did pay market.
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Okay.
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For what you were getting. And then I also got the preschool concert tickets, which also felt good. So many people, I guess, don't do dinner auctions, which people were like so shocked that was something you paid for. And I just have to say to you, like, you're leaving money on the table for your school.
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I don't know. And forgive me, I've gone to like Catholic school my whole life. Is it like a private, Is it like a private Catholic school thing? Because, like they have to raise money for the school. It's not tax funded.
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I mean. No, because I go, I go to like four interactions every year and to our public schools.
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Okay, then I don't know.
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So I think it's maybe just like a regional thing for us.
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Just feels like it should be a universal thing.
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Well, that's what I'm saying. Like it's. You're leaving money on the table because, yeah, parents will pay for. Someone was telling me that they went for like five to six thousand dollars. Their front row seats at the kindergarten concert.
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What?
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I know people want to leave a donation for the school.
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They want to leave a donation. It's fun. And also like, then they get something out of it. And like it was a free thing that for you, it's not like it's
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a write off for people. Like, that's what I'm saying. So, like you need to be doing auctions at your school. Some other things that were like up for sale that like weren't physical items was like the name the playground they did, which these went for a lot. They sold one of each where it was like your kid could be the PE teacher for the day. The fun, the art teacher, the computer teacher, the music teacher. Those were going. I tried to get one for George, one for Hattie. They were like 500 bucks a piece.
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What?
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Yeah. They were going, wow, guys, I'm telling you, I don't live in like my school's not like an insane like affluent school at by any means. Like, it's a very regular school. You're leaving money on the table.
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And this is, this is, you're right. Like, this is just the check that people want to cash. Like year leaf to like donate to the school. And so they're like, do you want
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your kid to have a no uniform day? Like, okay, 50 bucks right now? I'm like, okay, sure, like, okay, whatever.
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Wow. The no uniform days. Remember those in grade school we have like occasionally dress down days, but you had to pay a dollar to do it.
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Yeah, I know,
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so funny.
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They're really getting you for everything they can.
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I mean, really.
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So it was so fun. Then I went. Then I worked at the dessert auction, which I talked about last time. And like, I just sometimes forget like how I sometimes forget what a salesman I am. Yeah, because like, you know, you're supposed to sit there and then people are supposed to come up, look at the desserts, and then you just basically write on a clip or what they buy. Well, I get there. I'm working the 6:30-7 shift. Dinner served at 7. I'm thinking this is our, this is our last hoorah. And there's dessert sitting here. So I was with my friend Annie. I said, annie, grab that cheesecake. And I started going table to table. We sold the cheesecake. I said, annie, go get the carrot cake. Brings the carrot cake by. Annie, go get the cherry pie. I'm going to hit this table in the back. Yeah, got. I mean, I was bullying everyone. My line, I was like, hey, you guys. Like, I'm just nervous. Like, I don't see any desserts on your table. Dinner's about to be served. This is the best dessert we have left. Do you guys want me to leave it here? I can get you plates right now. And they were like, oh, we're okay.
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We.
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They have cookies down there. And I'm like, you know, but like, that guy looks really hungry. And I'm just worried that, like, you're not gonna have your own. I was like, you can bring this home to the kids tomorrow. I mean, I was. I was schlepping.
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She was not taking no for an answer.
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No. And I got them all sold.
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I love that.
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Yeah, it was.
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Let her cook.
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That's what I'm like, this is what I'm good at. I literally was almost like, gonna, like, raise the prices behind their backs. I'm like, these are going to. These are going. I mean, I just spent 400 bucks on front row tickets to a concert, and this cheesecake's only 50. Like, come on. Like, this is not. This is a homemade giant cheesecake. This needs to be one. This needs to be 120.
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Yeah.
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But we had fun.
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So fun.
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Yeah.
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I love it.
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And I didn't really get anything else of note. We, like, then we just, like, did like, you know, the raise, the paddle, which everyone's like, who will give this? Who will give that? I'm telling you, like, you're leaving money on the table.
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You really are.
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There's raffle tickets. Like, I didn't win anything in the raffle. The silent auctions were going crazy, and I just didn't want a basket because I just don't want things in my home at the moment.
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Yeah, I can relate.
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And there wasn't. There was. There wasn't a basket that I was, like, super excited about. But I definitely did cause some drama with them. Like, you know, I, like, knew I would go up and like, raise it by 20 bucks just to.
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Just knowing. Yeah.
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Just to do my part.
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Kel, you're always doing your part.
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Yeah. So it was super fun. And I have another one this weekend. Can't wait.
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Wow.
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But it's not my kids school, so I will be more interested in the baskets. I'll probably. I'll probably get a basket.
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Okay, sure.
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Because there's other things I wanted at my kids school, but, like, I don't want the former tickets to that kindergarten concert. I don't know that kid.
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Right, Right. Okay. Do you think yours. Of all the ones you go to what do you know which one raises the most money?
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I think ours does.
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Really? I mean, it sounds like it are like, people.
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And, you know, you have. We have a couple, like, a very generous people.
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Yeah.
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Who are just like, you know, raise the paddle. I'll get five grand to the school. You know what I'm saying?
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Like, just a rush. It's so exciting. Like, you're in a community. Like, we're all doing this together. Like, it's so fun.
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Well, you know, then, like, they show you pictures of the kids, and then the principal comes up and they're like, here's what we want to do with the money. We want to renovate this classroom and get them this late. I'm like, okay, it's for the kids.
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Totally.
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It's so fun. I literally love a dinner auction. So it was a good night. But then I do think it triggered some of my hives. So we'll see what happens. I started getting itchy that night. I did drink. People were asking if I have given up alcohol. I just drank club soda, tequila, and true lime packets, zero sugar. But I am wondering if Jose did me dirty.
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I mean, they took away your Caesar salads. Like, can't take over your tequila.
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Actually, they can. Like, if they want to take away my tequila, I'm fine.
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Like. Yeah, I get that.
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I feel so frustrated that, like, I even, like, had a reaction. Which, again, I know, like, mine are nothing compared to what other people are having. But, like, I just want to feel good, you know?
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I mean, also, like, you're going through all the hullablue of, like, giving up sugar to, like, risk even feeling crummy from alcohol. It's, like, so not worth it.
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I know. So I'm like. And I've. I've told you, like, not. I'm not really that into. I used to be a way bigger drinker before I had kids, obviously. And even, like, between some of my kids now, like, I'm just, like, not in the mood for it. I was in the mood.
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I feel you.
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I want to eat my calories. Sorry.
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I was talking. I was talking to someone the other day, and I was like, you know, my first pregnancy, like, stopping drinking was hard. Like, I would go to social places and it was hard for me to, like, I felt not drinking. I don't know if people are drinking around me. I don't. I mean, I am going to feel it at the bachelorette party. I'm going to, like, going out to dinner. Doesn't faze me at all. Don't Need a drink. Does, like, I just don't care at all anymore.
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Yeah. Anyway, I'm just like craving, like, the only thing I want like so badly right now is like, I just want. I was telling Liz this yesterday. I went like this. I want like the sugariest, most delicious latte. Like, I want something called like the Teddy Graham latte. Like, I don't even know what that is. But, like, I want a cookie butter latte. I want a s' mores latte. I want something like that. So I was one with 42 grams of sugar. Like, that's what I want. And it's just like, okay, I can have black coffee with cream. Yeah. So that's what I'm really gonna have after this. It's just like so interesting and some. And you know, my doctor was also like, you know, you did just like go through an insane lifestyle change. Like, your body could have just like been freaked out because you're on the sugar detox. You had a little alcohol. Now you have hives. Like, I'm fine. Like, I was. I'm fine.
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I also though last night I wasn't feeling the best because of my things and Tyler was so nice and he took all four of the kids to his mom's house which was like, Tyler's never done that. Tyler's been very scared of Libby up until now. He just like doesn't. He's like, no, I'll take the bigs. You take Libby. Like that's just kind of been like our default. But it's to the point now where it's like, no, leave me all three bigs and just take Libby. Because Libby is such a terror.
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Yeah.
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And I was like, just put her in the car, she's ready for a nap. Like your mom will watch her. So they did that. Praise be. And I was able to lay in bed and I turned on the America's Next Top Model documentary. Have you heard about this?
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I have. I haven't watched it yet, but I have thoughts without watching it.
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So like first of all, like what a time and culture was America's Next Top Model. So what's very interesting about the documentary is they Tyra's in it, right. Which I'm only on episode one. And I think it definitely gets a lot more insane with what they're doing. What are your takes?
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My takes are Tyra. There's been a. People have been asking for a documentary on it because you'll. They'll re air clips from old episodes and just be like, what even the heck was this shit show?
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Yeah.
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And so this is Tyra trying to get ahead of it.
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Yeah.
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And trying to say her, her piece, whatever her I, I, whatever her piece is, like, it's crazy. She's trying to get ahead of the narrative so she can't get canceled of what she fully. I'm sorry, I don't like to cancel people. The things on that show fully deserve to be canceled.
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So, you know, it's. It's. I'm very. I'm. I'm kind of surprised that's. That's your intense reaction to it. I do agree there was some, like, insane things that happened on the show. And I feel like Tyra coming on the documentary, from what I've seen so far, she's doing herself no favors because, one, she's not taking any accountability for it, which, like, I can sympathize with. It was a different time. I'll look through it.
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Crazy for that.
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But, like, she's not even. She's not even, like, acknowledging that part of it. And then she kind of. I find that she's kind of contradicting herself because she's over here being like, you know, it wasn't easy for me. Like, I wanted. I want to change the model industry. I want to make it more inclusive. I want to make it better for women. And then, like, you let it make it so much harder for them.
B
Like, so, like, you literally torture them.
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That just, like, wasn't really. That was just very interesting. But I also think she was trying to. In her defense, I think it was done poorly. I think she was trying to stimulate or simulate some of the traumas that she and her fellow models have had in the industry. And she was trying to show, like, what actual models went through with these guinea pigs, which I think was hard because, like, the guinea pigs were just guinea pigs. Like, so. And you're saying you didn't like it, so then why are you doing it to them? But it's like she was trying to show the world, like, no, you go there and they tell you that you're fat, and they tell you you have to shave off your entire head.
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Yeah.
A
And it's like, well, you're saying you don't like this, and then why are you making a show that's doing that? But I think. But I get that you went through that and you were trying to show America that the dark. The, quote, unquote, dark side. And, you know, that's what she felt like it, quote, took to be a model. But then you were given the platform to, like, change that. And then you just, like, be the
B
change you want to see in the world.
A
Yeah. So that's where I felt. Felt like her messaging is just kind of, like, not. It's kind of. I'm just confused that that's her messaging.
B
Well, that's. That's kind of what I'm saying. Like, a lot of the stuff that they did is. It's. It is inexcusable. And so she's just, like, trying to get ahead of it, and she's trying to say, well, I was. I was trying to do this, but, like, there's just so many. And that could be true for some of the examples, but for some of
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the dates they were trying to make.
B
You're. You're just trying to have the shock factor at the end of the day.
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They were trying to make good tv, and they did it at the expense of a lot of, like, young women.
B
Young, impressionable women. Like, I saw this. I saw this reel, and it was kind of making fun of America's next hot model. And it was like, model tells Tyra in a private interview that her aunt died on a chicken bone eating a chicken bone. And then Tyra, next episode makes her pose the rotisserie chicken. Like, that's, like, crazy stuff. Like, they just, like, exploited. They exploited that.
A
No, they. They for sure did. They for sure did.
B
No, I. I do. I. I do want to watch. I do want to watch, though.
A
It's so interesting because I did love the show growing up.
B
Me too. Yeah.
A
So then I feel bad that I loved that. So I think we're. I think it's okay to be, like, it was such a different time. So, like, I can't believe we. But all sat and watched that show and were okay with it at the time to some level.
B
Well, what I. What I liked about the show, it wasn't the shock factor of making people swap races or telling.
A
Oh, that was insane.
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Telling very thin women that they need to lose weight. What I liked was seeing the glamour and their poses and their reveals and who. Like, I liked the innocent parts of it, and I didn't need your craziness.
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You're right. I like when they did makeup. They did a photo shoot.
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Like, it was like, let's pose like animals. Like, everyone had a different animal. Like, I liked those. Those factors of it.
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Yeah. So anyway, I'm watching. I'm. It's just bringing up a lot of things. And I also find that. And again, I'm only on episode one, but I find that Ms. J is, like, a totally different person. Now than they were back then. Like, he's so quiet and reserved, and I'm like, you were, like, the biggest personality on the show, and that's, like, totally not coming across so far. It's, like, very strange.
B
Well, I do also, like, assume that. What's it been, maybe 15, 20 years?
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Oh, I think it's been. Yeah, 20, 25 years. It's been forever. I do.
B
I do like to think that people can change since then.
A
Yeah.
B
So I don't know. Again, haven't seen it. Excited to watch it, though, if not just to, like, relive, like, the craziness.
A
So crazy.
B
You know what we're watching right now, Me and Maddie, is the newest season of Love is Blind.
A
Yeah. I almost thought about that.
B
And let me tell you why I think I don't like the Bachelor. I never watched the Bachelor, the Bachelorette. I don't watch Love Island. Like, I don't like a lot of reality tv. I love Love is Blind. And the reason is it's actually real people. Yeah. Like, it's not just a. Let me just get famous and become an influencer and just, like, cause chaos. It's like, real people and, like, some people. So I love real people. So it's like, okay, I fall in love with you because you're like, you're normal. Like, you're cute. And then you also see, like, the craziness of real people, and you're like, oh, my gosh, you are a horrible person.
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Yeah.
B
And it's just like, it's such good tv.
A
What city is this? Ohio?
B
I think it's Ohio. Yeah, it's Ohio. Are you, like, some things that I'm noticing. Okay. It's so fun to watch Love is Blind because some seasons, you'll be like, okay, all the girls are kind of cuckoo on this season. And then this season, it's like, a lot of the guys. It's mostly guys that are, like, the problem ones. And what I'm noticing a lot of them are saying is they will say something so mean and horrible. Kind of like Tyra actually. Like, a lot of body shaming. And then they'll say, well, I just think that, like, I would prefer a girl who, you know, does Pilates every. Every day. But that's just me being honest. And they always say, but that's just me being honest. As if, like, your honesty exempts you from being a bad person. He's like, you know what? If me saying that makes me a bad person? Like, at least I was being honest. It's like, okay. And honestly, you are scum.
A
Well, they're missing the point of the show. The point of the show is. Is love blind? Not.
B
No, I. Exactly.
A
You like the looks of girls who do Pilates also. Do you do Pilates? Like, shut up.
B
And it's. It's. It's like. It's the craziest thing. And it's like, it's so much look shaming and body shaming on, like the most pretty, normal looking girls yet. Yes, yes.
A
So they're saying this to these girls
B
faces, girls that they have hooked up with and have said, I have proposed to and have said, I love you too.
A
Oh, yeah, these boys suck.
B
No, they. They suck, but they're just being honest. So anyway, sorry if no one watches Love is Blind. I just, like, had to get that off my chest. Such a good show.
A
Okay. Interesting, interesting.
B
Anyway, that's enough rambling for today's episode. I know we wanted to get into our last three transactions where we spill our recent bank account subtractions.
A
Yes. Because, like, while we are trying not to bring junk into our home, we are still bringing things into our home. But only the things that we need. Want. Want. No, only things that we need.
B
Yeah, for sure.
A
And maybe. And maybe want. So let's do that. Because I actually have been transacting, unfortunately.
B
Do you want to start?
A
You can start.
B
Okay, well, I'm going to start with. I just place like a. A big order for like organizers within my home. Okay. Organizer, which doesn't really feel like it totally, like counts like different. Different bins and stackables and things of that nature. So I can organize the places within my house. So it's buying new stuff to make me more effective and organized. Okay.
A
I did see the things that you posted on your stories about your medicine. That was a good idea.
B
Yeah, no, they're. They're really good. Like a clear organizer. Organizers that are all the same. I mean, it just.
A
There's.
B
It feels good.
A
So I have a lot of speaking engagements coming up, a lot of filming, a lot of speaking. So I did transact quite heavily and I worked with my stylist. I like say my stylist. Like, it's bougie. It's not. I have this girl named Izzy who sometimes I'm like, hey, can you put to me there like three outfits asap? And she does that and she has me on my shopbop grind right now.
B
Shop bop. What's that?
A
So it's just like a website. I think it's just kind of like a revolve like it just carries a lot of brands.
B
Okay.
A
But I'm telling her, I'm like, I like to wear blue tones. Like blue tones. Blue tones, Blue tones. And she's like, I know you like blue tones. She's like, but we need a secondary color that's not a neutral. And I'm like, no, I don't think so. She goes, no, trust me. So she has me introducing a lot of maroon up into my upcoming speaking engagements. Okay. And I'm kind of like really excited about it. So my most. I haven't tried it on yet, but I bought like a tool maroon skirt with blue polka dots, which I know sounds kind of ugly when I'm describing it, but it's really cute. I'm trying to find a picture for you. Biebs.
B
Oh, Shop op has a maternity section.
A
So like this is what she wants me to like wear to the speaking thing.
B
Oh, interesting.
A
Or she wants me to wear like.
B
That seems more my vibe. That seems less yours.
A
This.
B
That seems more your vibe. Yeah, but the maroon's kind of fun.
A
Yeah, just like a pop on maroon.
B
Just a pop. Okay. So did you order that stuff?
A
I ordered a ton of stuff.
B
Okay.
A
So tbd.
B
Okay. Well, speaking of events, I imagine me sitting in my bed at 8pm Googling going out black maternity clothes. Because we're going to this bachelorette party at a couple in like two months. We just got the what you're supposed. What you're supposed to wear. So I need a blue swimsuit and I need a black going out outfit.
A
Oh, it's like when she wears white and you guys wear black.
B
Yeah. Yeah.
A
So what I think you should wear. You ready?
B
I think I have an. I mean obviously I ordered something, but you can tell me.
A
I think it's a black body con dress. Black jean jacket done.
B
Yeah, no, it's a black bodycon dress. It's. I actually had one from my first pregnancy and I guess I threw it away cuz I could not find it anywhere. So I did have to reorder but it's like just from Amazon. But also just goes to show if you accidentally throw something away in your purge clean out and you're like, shoot, I need that and whatever, I'm just gonna get it again. So I ordered a black bodycon dress for my.
A
Well, I think that's versatile. And then I think you like throw a shirt on over it.
B
Yeah, and I also do that. Yeah, no, for sure. Like the layering's definitely gonna be a look. And I also was looking at some too that were like a little bit more flowy and more like sundress vibes because we are going to Florida and it is a dinner and then. And then afters going out after. I do think I will skirt going out after because I don't think anyone wants to be there with like a 22 week pregnant.
A
I think it's a little alarming to show up to the club.
B
It is.
A
Yeah.
B
And I'm not. I don't.
A
It feels inappropriate. I. I know that's not what you want me to. What? You're not. You're not supposed to say that because pregnant women can do anything and you can. But like, I wouldn't go.
B
And again, like, I would. I would rather. I think I'd rather just be.
A
Get an ice cream on the way home and sit in your bed saying,
B
so anyway, I gotta dress for that.
A
Okay. Mine's. I don't have. I. My. I like wish I would have been more organized on like my recent like speaking panel things. So like that was just like such a big haul. But those haven't come in yet, so I don't feel ready to speak on them. But I did just place a big order of headbands for Hattie because Hattie has officially transitioned from bows to headbands exclusively. Which I feel like, you know, around the age five, like, I think, I mean, I know you can keep your kids in bows longer, but now that I have Libyan bows, like, I was ready for Hattie that. It's like we only had the one white bow, you know, so it's like, sorry, Libby has to wear it. So Hattie is so. And she's so beautiful in headbands. But I like the headbands that have like the, the knot at the top. I think those are the cutest. So I bought a ginormous pack off Amazon. Like every color under the sun. Like, they're so cheap. They're just like a piece of plastic with like fabric wrapped around it.
B
Yeah.
A
Now I have every color.
B
Okay. Perfect.
A
You know, she's like, they kind of hurt my ears. And I'm like, well, you have to work. And like that's fine. Like for the picture and for church. And then like, that's all like, we're not going anywhere. She doesn't wear a headband all day.
B
And there. No headbands aren't comfortable. Please.
A
That's what I'm saying when finding me a comfortable headband. My sunglasses are the most comfortable headband I have.
B
Yeah, exactly.
A
So.
B
Okay. The last thing that I got something about finding out that I was going to have another girl made me feel totally more justified in spending more money on girl clothes. Pajamas is it? Well, I'll spoil it. It was Kaden Lane order. I. I placed an order for Sloan in for James, but then I'm also like, well, this is my only boy. So I also that. That I know of. Like, I might have more kids, but, like, it kind of makes me want to splurge on him, too. So anyway, I placed a right. I did a Caden Lane order, and something I did know Kate and Lane had was they have adult pajamas, too, and they have mommy and me pajamas. So I got me and Sloan matching pajamas, but mine are like the shorts with the button up and the collared shirt, and Sloan's are also the shorts with the button up and the collared shirt. It's so cute.
A
What is the print?
B
Oh, you're going to hate it. It's like, pink and bows and it's just, like, very in your face.
A
Well, I'm happy that I'm. I feel a lot better that yours is shorts. Like, that. Yours is not like the skin tights on the skin tights. It's like, that's my. That's my beef with little sleepies. It's like, stop.
B
No, no. The print is aggressive, but it is a. Like, it gets like a ruffle short. Like, it is a cuter pajama set.
A
Well, okay, I'm interested. I. And the pajamas are not like our typical, like, they're like, loose on the top, loose on the bottom.
B
Yes, yes. They're loose on the top, loose on the bott. The type. You've seen what pajamas I wear? They're the type of pajamas I wear.
A
Yeah, I know. Okay. And see, that's very interesting because I need to find George. George needs new pajamas. And, like, I do feel like he's starting to give me a little bit of the ick and like, the little sleepies. I mean, he's not giving me the ick, but, like, I can tell. And like, we. I can tell he's starting to, like, not love them because we also spent the night with some friends a couple weeks ago, and, like, they have two boys their age and, like, their boys were not wearing the skin type pajamas.
B
I just. I hate hearing the navigating the social aspects of parenthood that you're going through.
A
No, I know. So I'm trying to find. But, like, I'm not ready to not have a matching pajama for Georgia. Just like me personally, my journey Like, I'm still would like him to have a few pairs of matching pajamas. So I'm trying to find, like, I need, like, loose pajama pants and, like, a shirt, but I literally can't find them. So maybe I'll check out Kaden Lane.
B
I have no advice to. To give you.
A
I can tell.
B
That, like, makes me want to cry.
A
No, it's okay. I feel fine.
B
Could be the pregnancy.
A
Yeah, I know. It's like, I'm ready for him to be. To be there.
B
Yeah.
A
Because I'm also, like, there. He's such a fun kid. Like, there's so many other aspects of his life I'm excited about. Like, right now, he, like, wants a pocket knife so bad. And, like, I don't know. When you buy a kid a pocket knife, like, what age do you think is appropriate for a pocket knife? Like a little Swiss army knife?
B
No, I would say the average. The average boy, in my mind would be higher. A higher age than George. George is very responsible.
A
Yeah. But, like, what if Fred gets a hold of it?
B
Right. That would be more concerned.
A
But, I mean, then it's like, well, Fred could get a hold of a kitchen knife if he really wanted to.
B
This is true.
A
So I don't know. But George is like, mom, did I have a dream, or did you say I was old enough for a pocket knife? Like, that's what he told me.
B
Then you're like, I don't know.
A
I'm like, ask your dad, George. Like, I don't know.
B
That's. Yeah, that's a dad decision.
A
But, yeah, his birthday's coming up in May, and that's all he's been talking about. He wants a pocket pocket knife. Can you just picture George, like, with jeans and a pocket knife?
B
Yeah. You know, really? Sure.
A
Like, he's really into dressing up right now. Like, and it's kind of annoying because it's like he's outshining the rest of us.
B
Like, yeah.
A
I'm wearing athlete Rono Fish. Right. I'm wearing Athleisure. Everyone else is just in, like, their play clothes. Tyler's in a hoodie, and we're like, george, come on. He's like, almost ready. Comes out cowboy hat, belt button down, tucked in in his jeans with his boots.
B
I'm just like, how can you, like, yeah. And how can you discourage that?
A
You can't. I'm like, you look great.
B
Yeah.
A
I should have probably dressed up more. Get in the car.
B
Yeah.
A
It's just so funny. Like, that's what he's into. Right now. Like, I was expecting that. Like, you've always heard of, like, a girl, like, you know, wanting to, like, wear a dress or, like, wear sparkles. No, George. Like, I picked out a polo for him to wear to church. Like, just like a long sleeve polo. And he's like, can I wear a shirt with buttons all the way down, Mom? I'm like, oh, sure, George.
B
I love that kid.
A
Okay, I think I have one more, right?
B
Yeah. Because I started.
A
Okay. I, like, not an exciting one at all. But, like, the chokehold that scrubbing that scrubby daddies have on me is unbelievable. I can't do dishes without them.
B
Really?
A
Yeah, I, like, never really bought them. And then I like, bought one at a whim. And then I was like, oh, this is unbelievable. Like, I love a scrubby daddy. Scrub daddy. That's what it's called. But, like, they don't last that long. Like, I'm probably going through eight a year at the moment. And like, 13. Yeah, no, they're probably a little less than that because I think I got a four pack, three pack for 13. So I'm just saying, like, I just had to make another repurchase on Amazon. Like, I wish I had a subscribe and save option because I'm just kind of like there with these things. But, like, I like when mine starts to, like, lose its. Lose its scrubbiness, I'm like, arg, I have to get the brush out. I don't like the brush. I like my scrub daddy.
B
I like a brush.
A
I mean, there's a reason they're viral. Like, like, I'm not sure. I'm not crazy because, like, there's a reason everyone. They're the reason. They're the most popular sponge out there right now.
B
No, yeah, you're right. So I don't like holding a wet sponge. Like, I don't like holding.
A
Well, see, I don't wear dish gloves. And mom was always a dish glove girl.
B
We never talk about that.
A
I never saw our mother. And RM takes better care of herself than we do. Probably because, like, mom will, like, get in the pool and, like, she'll keep her hands up like this because she doesn't want her hands to get in the water.
B
Yeah.
A
You notice that she does that?
B
No, I know that she does that. It's.
A
And her hands look young, so maybe she's onto something. Maybe we should be wearing gloves.
B
Well, maybe that's just the hack. It's just like, wear gloves when you're doing dishes.
A
I just don't. I don't even know if. I don't even own a pair of dish gloves. Is that crazy?
B
I do. That is crazy.
A
Do you use them, though?
B
I don't use them as often as I should. But I also think that if you're gonna wear dish gloves, like, you have to do your dishes proper, like you have to clean everything else, or just start with your dishes, like you can't keep putting them on and putting off. I think I'm a little bit too ADHD to like, sit there in front of and just do dishes.
A
Well, I think my kids are like. I think it's like I'm trying to do that and then like, Libby's, like, trying to.
B
Maybe that's it. Maybe that's it. Okay. Anyway, Kel, we have some advice questions if you want to love.
A
I'd love to.
B
This comes from Jen. Three across machine, question mark. We're tall.
A
Oh, okay. Okay.
B
Jess.
A
Jen.
B
So cute. Okay. I'm a longtime listener. Recently my husband and I were on a on a way up north to ski and it was a Friday, so naturally I turn on the podcast. My husband's a very good sport and he, and he genuinely thoroughly enjoyed it. He thinks you two are hysterical. Now he's listening on his drives to sales calls so we can chat. We are in the market for a new car. We're both over 6ft tall and have a baby. I drive a Jeep Grand Cherokee and because of our super long legs 38 inseam, we cannot get enough car seat clearance without having the passenger knees slammed into the dash. We are planning to have another baby next year and it won't be safe to have the car seat behind the driver. In addition, the Jeep had needs new brakes. Okay, so they're getting rid of the Jeep. We are planning to have three, maybe four kids. We're looking at used atlases with a bench, but man, the lack of ceiling vents makes me a tad nervous. My husband keeps saying, honey, it was the car mom car of the year. That means a lot. I think we should go for it. Our question is the Ford Explorer. Is the Ford Explorer A3 across machine? Is there another car we should be looking at? Our goal is to find a car for 35k but we could go up to 40k if necessary. My husband loves a good deal.
A
We were just talking about this.
B
I know.
A
So the 23 across machines in the midsize market are the Pilot and the Atlas. Now does that mean that other three across combos don't work? No, those are the only two cars I would buy with the intention to do in the midsize market. Those are the only two cars I would buy to do three across. I put the Ford Explorer in the category of yeah, we could. If you have that car and you have a surprise pregnancy, I could give you a combination that would work. The difference between those cars and what I would call a machine is versatility is like there's one combination in the Ford Explorer and as soon as someone's in a booster, it's going to be incredibly inconvenient. Where I feel like the Atlas and the Pilot offer more options and it's a car that grows with the family better. So like how many kids do they have now?
B
They have one baby.
A
Well, the thing is, it's like I just don't know if you're buying your car for four kids today.
B
Yeah.
A
And I know no one likes me to tell you that, but I think a more financially. So first of all, I think you, if you were pregnant with your fourth right now, I would tell you to go buy an Atlas. I think third or fourth I would. I think the Atlas has a much for as good as the pilot benches. The Atlas bench is that much better. The lack of ceiling beds is a bummer. It is a con. It is not, in my opinion a deal breaker for a couple of reasons. One, it affects rear facing kids the most and that's a short window depending on where you live. It only affects them for a portion of the season. So you're kind of talking about like, are we really not going to buy a car? Because six months out of the years for the two years that your kids rear facing so a total of 12 months and you're going to keep the car for seven years. They're going to be hot, which like you can cool the car down. Like they're also going to be fine. Yeah, to me it's a lot more of a convenience feature. Like I wish the Atlas had it, but you can't. I would, I would choose a good bench suit over the ceiling vents for sure. That's just my opinion. But I feel like a smarter option for you guys would be I would just go buy like a beater. Not even a beater, but like why don't you go buy Ford Explorers are cheap. Why don't you go buy a 2017 Ford? What year is their Jeep?
B
It's. I don't know that she didn't say.
A
Okay, well like go buy a year newer than your Jeep Ford Explorer and like keep that thing for three years, four years. And then when you're ready when you're pregnant with your third. Then let's do the three across car. Because just like any car works for two. Now, depending on how quickly you're gonna have the kids, like if you're telling me no, like we're already trying for number two and then we're gonna do three right after. Sure. Get the Atlas. But I would just say like I always caution families against trying to buy their quote unquote family car, long term car, their 10 year car, when they're such a young family like this. Because things can just change.
B
Yeah.
A
What if it's not enough room for you? The Alice was not enough room for me for four, three kids. That's when I felt like I wanted to go full size. Now that's just me. Sam on our team, she has four kids. She loves her Atlas. But like I just don't know who you are and you don't know who you are.
B
Yeah. So by the time you're ready to up to do the Atlas, Volkswagen wakes up and puts ceiling bends in the third row or in the second row. Could happen.
A
I just. You don't need an Atlas right now.
B
Yeah.
A
If you need a car, I think like let's go buy a Ford Explorer. Let's go buy a for. I think a Ford Explorer would be a great one. If you feel like you want the ceiling vents and they're cheap as chips.
B
The Ford Explorer, I think, I think you answered that well. I think you kind of like gave her her options. I think her biggest hold up is the ceiling vents. So if you think it's not that big of a deal, then she needs to make that decision herself and maybe she can hold off for them. Okay, thank you. Okay, one more. Hi Kelly and Liz, I love listening to your podcast and follow you both on insta. I have been thinking for a while about getting a new car, but I need some advice. I have two kids, 5 and 2 and do not plan to have more. I currently drive a Tesla Model Y and my husband drives a Toyota Tundra. We both love these cars, but I'm wondering if I need to upgrade to something larger. My sister lives close and we help watch each other's kids one to three times a week.
A
Week.
B
She has a two year old and a baby on the way. Three across in the Tesla is terrible. So I usually drive my husband's truck when I have my sister's kids. Now that there will be four kids, I'm wondering if it's worth it to trade in the Tesla for something Larger or just make it work for the few days a week that I have all four kids. My sister just got a Pathfinder with a third row. And switching cars is an option when I have all the kids, but it's difficult when we both leave early in the morning for work. If getting a new car is what you recommend, what car would you suggest? I like luxury cars or ones that feel that way. We usually gravitate towards Lexus, Toyota and Honda.
A
So this one's interesting because from what I'm understanding, like it's not. This is like purely a want.
B
It's kind of like a one. But it also kind of sounds like a convenience thing because like she watches her sister's kids pretty regularly, it seems.
A
Yeah. Did she say like it. Does it have to be electric or. She doesn't care about that, but she
B
didn't say anything about electricity.
A
I mean there's a lot of. There's so many different directions that you could go here. Like again, I think I would default to like. Okay, what's the most. What car offers like the most versatility that I feel like checks your boxes and your vibes. I think the Lexus TX would be. You would even get. The hybrid would be a really good option. That's a fabulous car. Like people are sleeping on that car. That's the best car in the Lexus lineup right now. The tx, like the plug in hybrid. Chefs kiss, no notes. So I think that could be a great option. You know, same thing. I think the Grand Highlander is fine. You could get that.
B
Or the Honda Pilot.
A
I don't think she's gonna like the Pilot. She like, likes luxury. She's gonna like take one look at the Honda Pilot.
B
She said they gravitate towards. The Honda is one of the brands they gravitate towards.
A
That's. Oh, well then I think you love the Pilot. You'd also love the Odyssey. Yeah, if you just like really want to like just do the most. But I think the TX would get. The TX is the most family, in my opinion, the most family friendly luxury car in the mid size market.
B
Gives her the flexibility for the occasional use. Gives her the hybrid electric vibes and gives her the luxury.
A
Yeah, I feel I'm gonna lock in
B
with that bada bang. Those are our advice questions.
A
Okay, well, now it's time for ditch the drive through. We give you an easy dinner recipe to mix it up to get you out of your dinner.
B
Ruth.
A
Now I have really been quite on the food journey with my sugar free journey because I've really just noticed that. Here's the sad part about me and food. Right now, it's becoming a less big deal to me, which is sad. And good.
B
Yeah.
A
Because it's good. Because I was obsessing, like, what am I gonna have for dinner? I wanna have something good for dinner tonight. Like, what should I make for dinner? And it was, like, taking up so much of my headspace. But then it was bad because I do think meals and cooking can be really fun and enjoyable. And I just. There's still so much you can do when you're just not eating sugar free. Like, you can basically eat anything except for sauces and sugar. But I have just kind of noticed it's like, kind of changed my excitement around food.
B
Okay.
A
So also say is I don't have that many exciting meals planned, but, like, tonight for dinner, I have pork. Pork in the crock pot. Yum. And then we are doing rice and broccoli.
B
Yeah.
A
And now I'm gonna get out the sweet baby rays. And like, if anyone wants to do, like, a pork slider, like, they can do that. I'm gonna probably throw some salsa on mine and hope that I am satiated.
B
You're kind of eating more like a bachelor.
A
Yeah, I kind of am.
B
You know, I've kind of complained about my family's eating, but there is also something that is, like, really nice about the fact that if I did just have to make, like, ground beef, like, my husband would be thrilled to have ground beef, cheese, and hot sauce. Like, that's all he needs. And there was something that bothered me at first about that because I was with you. I was like, there's so much, like, I want you to be so excited about all the toppings I'm covering up and everything I'm doing. There is something nice about, like, you're not going to be upset if it's the Bearman, because I kind of had a busy day. Well, in fact, he prefers it.
A
Yeah. And I just need to. I think that I was just like, using all foods is like, everything had to be special. Everything had to be a celebration. Not even. And not even that I was eating a bunch of junk. It was just like, let's make something fun for dinner. And it's like, no, there's nothing fun for dinner. It's a meat and a vegetable. Grab a sauce if you need one. My kids have. I mean, basically the whole family, except for, like, the kids are still having dessert and the kids are still having a lot of fruit, but we're really basically, like, eating More sugar free at night. No one's complained. Yeah, no one's complained. We might. We're gonna do burger bowls again this week because that was a really big hit last week. And then I did want to make. I want to do, like, a Thai peanut sauce bowl. And I am going to allow myself to use a little bit of honey in that sauce because, like, it just needs. You can't. It's. But it's like peanut butter. I'll do unsweetened peanut butter, soy sauce, rice vinegar, garlic, lime, and I am going to add the honey and then I'm going to do chicken. Like a. All, like the. Like, I'm gonna. I wanna get a. I saw this real. I wanna get, like, a ribbonizer for carrots and. Oh, yeah, carrots, cucumbers, chicken sprouts, peanut sauce.
B
Oh, that sounds delicious.
A
I know. Doesn't that sound good?
B
Yeah, that sounds special. Maybe. Maybe you'll only need, like, your special meals like, once or twice a week, and then every other day it's just like, protein, veggie starch.
A
Yeah. So tonight, I mean, I'm nervous about the pork because, like, I just am really gonna want. I mean, the best part about pulled pork rays.
B
Yeah.
A
So that sucks.
B
You're right.
A
But I'm gonna do salsa and sour cream and see if that does anything for me.
B
Well, and you know what smaller Sam PCOS does a lot is she will take, like, her hot sauce or her salsa and her sour cream, and she'll mix them together. So that way it's one sauce.
A
Yeah, that, that.
B
And that one's a little bit more fun.
A
Yeah, that would help me. That would help me.
B
Yeah.
A
And then I just need to place, like, a primal Kitchen thrive market order because they have so many sauces. They're just, like, so hard to find. But they have a sug tartar sauce, which I would like to try. So. Yeah, that's up with me.
B
Okay.
A
That's our episode.
B
And that's our episode. So thank you so much for listening to the carpool podcast and we'll talk to you next time. Love you. Bye.
A
Thank you for listening to the carpool podcast with Kelly and Liz. Make sure you're subscribed so you never miss an episode. And if you enjoyed riding with us, tell everybody. Everybody. You know, there's room in the car for everyone.
Episode Title: 40 DAYS OF LESS
Date: February 25, 2026
Hosts: Kelly Stumpe & Lizz St. John
In this lively episode of The Carpool, sisters and automotive experts Kelly and Lizz dive into personal journeys of "less"—from decluttering and sugar detoxes to simplifying routines and reevaluating buying habits. The conversation is a blend of humor, self-reflection, and practical advice on living with intention, all set within the context of busy mom life. Interwoven are discussions about dinner auctions, nostalgic reality TV, shopping habits, and car advice for families. The episode's tone is candid, supportive, and often hilarious, making it an easy ride for listeners seeking both practical takeaways and relatable banter.
Each host shares recent purchases and the context around them:
Lizz: Organizer bins for home decluttering; matching pajamas for herself and her daughter from Caden Lane; a black bodycon maternity dress for an upcoming bachelorette party (29:18–33:00).
Kelly: “Shopbop grind” for event outfits, including a bold maroon skirt; a huge set of headbands for her daughter Hattie, who’s transitioning from bows; a restock of Scrub Daddy sponges, which she now can't live without (30:00–39:08).
Parenting Tidbit:
Kelly discusses the challenge of finding suitable pajamas as her son George ages out of “little sleepies” into new clothing needs and their family’s humorous approach to kid fashion—especially George’s penchant for dressing up in full cowboy gear.
Quote:
"The chokehold that Scrub Daddies have on me is unbelievable. I can’t do dishes without them." – Kelly (38:58)
Family of Tall Parents with Baby (Considering Atlas, Ford Explorer, etc.)
Mom with Tesla Model Y Considering Upgrade for Occasional Four-Kid Duty
This episode stands as a relatable blend of personal growth, mom-life hacks, sisterly humor, and approachable advice. From the laugh-out-loud saga of dinner auctions and aggressive dessert peddling to sincere reflections on consumerism and simplifying life, Kelly and Lizz continue to deliver a warm, honest, and thoroughly entertaining ride.