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Everything Is Energy with Cathy Heller
Rabbi David Aaron on How to Find Spiritual Connection & Fulfillment in Everyday Life
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I want to share something that I've learned recently. It turns out that clarity is its own kind of power. I softened into the truth, and that changed everything. I stopped saving seats in my life for people who preferred the dimmed version of me. And now the room just feels different. I chose peace without guilt. I chose joy without explanation. And my whole frequency rewrote itself. When you stop performing and you start receiving, the whole world shifts around you. There's a version of me who stopped caring what wasn't hers.
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And that's who you're hearing from right now. If you're in this season, choose yourself. Choose your joy. Choose the life that actually feels like yours. And come join me. Come be a part of my membership. While it's 50% off this week for Black Friday, this is the space where you wake up different. This is the space where you shift your energy every single morning. This is the place where you stop abandoning yourself and start creating from the version of you who knows that she is a masterpiece. A piece of the master. To kathyheller.com life and use code Friday for 50% off your first month. Hey, guys, it's Kathy. Welcome back to the Kathy Heller Podcast. I hope you had an awesome weekend. It was my daughter's 14th birthday, which means, since she's my oldest, that I have been a mom for 14 years. And it's really just one of those things that it's really true that it goes by in the blink of an eye. And I'm particularly grateful this year because pulling my kids out of school for the season and being bi coastal and traveling with them, I really feel like we got off the hamster wheel and we get to spend a lot of time together. And it's truly just such a gift to really have quality time with her. And she's really becoming such an amazing person. And just watching her grow is really such a gift. She's been dressing me. I don't know if you guys have been watching anything I've been posting on Instagram, but I have, like, a whole new style. And really, I have her to thank because she comes with me shopping and she tells me to, like, try things on that I wouldn't necessarily try on, and I love it. And I was thinking about how this whole idea of, like, longevity and anti aging, this is what I'm about to say. This is some truth that might save you thousands of dollars at Sephora. The idea of anti aging is real, and it has nothing to do with your skincare routine. If you want real youth serum Be yourself like, but really for real. Like live authentically. Make the choices that you want to live. If you want to look younger, say what's true for you. If you want that lit from within, Glow. Make a decision that you're going to let go of guilt and people pleasing because that looks radiant on you. The moment you stop abandoning yourself, your whole body just calms down, the cortisol drops, your face softens, your energy gets just so much more vibrant. Your cells literally light up. So maybe that level of self honoring and truth is the ultimate collagen. Maybe authenticity is the anti aging routine and joy is a facelift. Alignment is the glow up. The version of you, the one who doesn't pretend. That's the glow that you're searching for. It's the one that comes from your soul. And the secret to longevity is simple. It's stop pretending to be anything other than who you are. I think that the radiance happens when your soul gets a chance at the microphone. And I say this because everyone keeps saying, oh my God, you look so different. It's like, yeah, if you would only know all the ways that I changed my life based upon just living from what felt true. No wonder, right? And it's amazing that I look back now and I'm like, oh my gosh, all of that was available to me but it's so unconscious. The amount of guilt or the amount of like people pleasing and we just don't, we don't even feel that we're allowed to choose what's true. And so it's been a pretty amazing season and I'm so grateful that I've been on this ride with you and thank you for supporting me. And by the way, thank you so much for buying my book. We hit the USA Today bestseller list last week and it was interesting because so Every week the USA Today list picks 150 of the top bestselling books. And these are all the books, right? Not just new releases, but of all books, 150 top selling books. And we hit the list at 111, which wasn't lost on me because the book came out on 11 11. And I'm like, wow, whenever you see 111-1111, right, you're basically seeing this angel number and, and it means that you are right where you need to be. Like you are on assignment in divine timing. And my daughter's birthday, she was born in 2011, November. So 1111. And she's the 22nd, so she's 1122 11. So I just feel like. I feel just so grateful to even be aware of signs like that. But if you needed a sign to sort of know that you're also, like, right on path, just be on the lookout. Because I feel like whenever you're available to see that, you're going to see winks like that everywhere. So today you're in for a special treat because I'm sharing a special session that we did with my really dear friend and mentor, Rabbi David Aaron. I thought that this would be a timely episode to share because we're going into Thanksgiving and we're going to talk about how do we actually find this deep level of peace and love and equanimity. You're going to hear some guidance that's going to help you let your soul lead the way. It's a beautiful conversation, and I think it's an important reminder about what's really valuable in our life. By the way, Rabbi Aaron and I host these sessions live once a month in my membership. My membership is called this Abundant Life. And this week we have a special Black Friday deal where you get 50% off your first month. Just to give you an idea of the transformations that go into the membership, here's something that one of our members just wrote. She said, I feel like my energy was holding me back and my business was just hitting a plateau. But the work that I'm doing here has absolutely brought me into full alignment and everything is growing again. My business is booming. So energy is real. It was more energy than my childhood beliefs. And I realized, crystal, clearly, that it's all a muscle. And when you stop doing all of this, your energy can plummet if you allow it to. So thank you for sharing that. One of our students shared that. But it's absolutely so true, and it's so important to have a community around you. You know, in our membership, every single day, we start with a manifestation morning. It's this special way that I help you take 10 minutes of your morning and check in and really, like, get beyond the fog of the mind so you can set your intention for the day and start summoning all that's in escrow for you and really turn your life into the most extraordinary, amazing, amaz, amazing life that you love so much. And you start feeling the synchronicities. I think that you would absolutely love being a part of the membership. And you can get it right now. For 50% off, you can go to kathyheller.com life and use the code Friday. Okay, without further ado, please welcome the one and only Rabbi David Aaron.
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Hi, guys. Welcome. I'm so excited to be with you. Thank you for being here. Rabbi Aaron, thank you for being here from Jerusalem. We are so happy to have you. I asked Rabbi Aaron if he would come in, and I asked him if he would share some of his wisdom and some of his thoughts on helping us really find our way to connect to God, to the divine. You know, it's really interesting. I see it constantly. I see it all the time where we are looking outside of ourselves for answers. We're listening to podcasts, we are scrolling through Instagram, and sometimes there's some pretty wise things out there. But the truth of the matter is that God wants to have a conversation with us. And we've each been built with a receiver within ourself. And as many of you know, and I think some of you did it this morning with Charlotte. We are really, as a community, beginning to really begin our morning with that sanctuary within ourself, like, really creating the space to have that conversation before the day tells us who to be, before the mind takes over. And so I asked Rabbi Aaron if he would come in and really share with us. I think it's fascinating how. And Rabbi Aaron, whether you know this or not, sometimes I'm talking about you behind your back, you know, obviously in all the good ways. But I said about you recently that I know so many people who wake up every day and their goal is to be successful, make money, grow their business. And I said, I often think about Rabbi Aaron's life and how success is like, did I get closer to my soul today? You know, before the sun went down, did I show up more as who I was created to be? And it's just so easy for us to get hijacked by everything that doesn't matter when really, I'll just share this last thing. I was just talking to a friend five minutes ago, and she said, I want to thank you for the conversation this weekend. Because she said, while I'm over here building the business and my husband and I are doing all the different things that we're doing. She said, you pointed out that my daughter confided in you that she was feeling not good at home. And she's like, I'm really. You're really a good friend. Because I spent all weekend, instead of doing everything on the to do list, just focusing on her, and she's like. And I. I feel right with myself this morning. That's my real assignment is the. The people in this living room. So there's all kinds of Things that distract us from the real assignment. But ultimately, when we are resourced from the world that's really our world, when we are actually connected to God, when we are actually changing the radio inside of us, then the day is like, you know, art, and we don't miss it. And we're always at the right place at the right time, and we're contributing and we're receiving, and the day is just awesome. And it's not about our bottom line. It's about the bottom of our heart, you know? So I think that we need to come back to having the capacity to have a conversation with our creator. And I would love, Rabbi Aaron, for you to share whatever you had in mind when. When we texted, and then we'll take questions after that.
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Well, first of all, thank you so much for this opportunity and all these wonderful souls joining us. You started off saying, if I could talk a little bit about that connection to God, how to make that connection. Well, the first thing we need to know is we don't make that connection because the connection is already there. And the more you think you have to make the connection, the more you're going to convince yourself that there isn't a connection. And I have to work really, really hard to make this connection. You have to actually work really, really hard to break this connection, because connection is already happening. And how do I know that? And I must have shared this before, but I asked my students, if they don't mind for the next one minute to turn off their hearts. And at the end of the minute, I'll let them know when they can turn them back on. And of course, that's ridiculous. You can't turn your heart off and on and will. But if you can't turn your heart off and on at will, then that's proof that you're not beating your heart. And if you're not beating your heart, then who is? Well, whoever that is, I suggest we stay in good contact. But what about my thinking? Let's stop thinking for 10 seconds. You can't stop thinking. What you're thinking is your choice. That you're thinking is not your choice. So I'm not the source of thinking. And what about will? Free will. How free is will? What I choose is my choice. That I choose. And then I have no choice. I have to make a choice. And the truth is, right this very Second, there are 17 muscles in my face that have to work in perfect coordination for every syllable to come out of my mouth. And I don't even know. I don't even know how to talk. I don't even know how to move. In other words, is this actually Rabbi David Aaron speaking? This is actually a partnership between the Creator who's giving me the raw powers of thinking, speaking, moving, breathing. And then I put in my part and choose where to channel that. And so the truth is, as one of the great, great gurus of the world said, every move you make in every breath you take, he's not just watching you. So when a person says, you know, Rabbi Aaron, how and when do you feel God? My question is, when do you not feel God? I feel God just in feeling at all. Just the feeling of feeling is a feeling of God because all the powers within me are not from me. And so when I speak to God, who am I speaking to? I'm speaking to the very source of speaking. I'm speaking to the very source of thinking. And why am I speaking? Why am I speaking? Not to come close, but to reveal how already close I am. You know, very often people think that, well, God is a loving being. Actually, according to Kabbalah, God is not a loving being. God is love. Love itself. You see, one of the primary principles of the Torah and the Kabbalah is that the divine is an absolute oneness. There are no seems an absolute oneness. And if someone were to say, you know, we tend to talk about God's attributes, but that actually contradicts the oneness. Because if God has attributes, that would mean there's a divine essence. And then attached to, added on to, glued to this divine essence are these good attributes like love and peace and kindness. But that's not true. God doesn't have the attribute of love. God is love. God doesn't have the attribute of peace. God is peace. God doesn't have the attribute of wisdom. I might have wisdom, but I'm not wisdom. God doesn't have wisdom. God is wisdom. So right this very second, as we share wisdom, God is that God is this presence. And so, you know, so I'm not saying that love is God because God is much more than love. God is also peace. And I'm not saying that peace is God, because God is much more than peace. Just like I am Rabbi David Aaron. But Rabbi David Aaron is not who I am because I'm more than Rabbi David Aaron. I'm a father, I'm a husband, I'm an author. These are very. I have many faces. And so too the divine has many faces. The face of love, the face of peace, the face of kindness. And therefore, when you talk To God. You're not talking to someone somewhere over the rainbow, all the way over there. Because then if you do that, then you're clearly forgetting that you're connected and that you are so close to God. You know, the Talmud says that just as God sees and is unseen, the soul sees and is unseen. Why is it that I don't see myself? None of us have seen ourselves. We've seen a reflection of our face in a mirror, but we've never seen ourselves. Because the self is doing the seeing and the seeing can't be seen. And so, too, why is it that we don't see God? Not because he's too far away. It's because he's so close. Not so close to my eyeballs. He's not in front of my eyeballs. He's actually at the very base of my eyeballs. The very ability to see is not my ability. Seeing is an experience of God. Hearing is an experience of God. What is not in the experience of God? If a person stays mindful of this, they will be in ecstasy. They will realize that they are literally connected to the power that drives the entire universe and the entire cosmos. And I am plugged in right this very second. So when you talk to God, you say, love Almighty. What should I do in this situation? Peace Almighty. What should I do in this situation? Kindness almighty. Justice almighty. Truth Almighty. And it's not like I think I'm talking to love. I'm talking to the one who is at the essence of love. Just like when you get onto a bus and you say, excuse me, bus driver, how many stops? You know you're not speaking to a bus driver. You know that there's some really warm, beautiful soul. And he's right now wearing the clothing. He's got the uniform, he's got the face of the bus driver. But when he goes home, he might be an artist, he might be a husband and a father. He might be an athlete. So you know that you're not. If you think you're speaking to a bus driver, that would be idolatry. You're speaking to the essence of the man that's being manifest as a bus driver. But you know that he has many festations, many faces. And so depending on which situation you're in, if you're in situation where you need guidance from God as the source of all love, you say, God, Love Almighty. If you're in a situation where there's conflict and, God forbid, violence or whatever, you say, peace Almighty. God, you are Peace Almighty. If I'm In a situation where I'm struggling with my integrity, I need to turn and say, God, you are truth Almighty. But the reason why we talk to God is to invite God more into our consciousness. Because existentially, essentially, we are one with the divine. We cannot not be one with the divine. That fact is a done deal. Now the question are you acting, speaking, and thinking in a way that's aligned with and is channeling the truth that's waiting to be channeled through you? And so you talk to God not to reach out to him, because if you reach out to him, you've definitely lost Him. It's like a candle looking for light. That's what it means to look for God. It's like a drop in the ocean looking for the ocean. The more you look for God, the more you lose God. Because you think you have to look. You have to realize that in the very looking itself is an experience of a power much greater than myself. I didn't teach my brain to think. I didn't give my heart to love. I am a radio. I'm a receiver, and I'm a transmitter. And I just want to tune in. And the way I tune in is by inviting God to be more present in my life, to my consciousness, God cannot be more present than right now because God is completely present in my life. In our lives right now, the question is opening our eyes to that truth. You know, there was a great Kabbalistic master who was once asked, you know, where do you find God? He said, wherever you let him in. And that's what we need to do. And by talking to God, we are letting God in. And the important thing about talking to God is hearing what we're saying to God. What do you want to say to God? What do you want to say to the Creator? It's almost like going to therapy. Because very often you go to therapy and the therapist doesn't say anything, just says, huh? And what do you think? Well, you know, if I'm going to tell you what I think, then maybe you should be paying me, you know? But what. What do you think? And just talking to one who loves, cares, is completely and only on my side is incredibly healing. The problem is that I don't know if we love and we're completely on our side, and that's getting in the way of being receptive to that love, that presence, that connection that's already there. The connection is there. You don't have to create the connection. You have to simply become mindful of it and grateful of it.
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So beautiful. I was sitting with a friend yesterday for breakfast, and at first she was, like, know, sharing with me, you know, what is it that I. I want to do? I don't know how to do it. And then, like, a second later, she was telling me that she was having a really beautiful conversation with a friend. And a friend from that conversation mentioned a podcast to her, which would be really just like, this beautiful idea that they were just talking about. And so she listened to this podcast, and she was so inspired by this depth. And so she DMed this woman while she was on an airplane, got off an airplane, walked over to this woman at baggage claim and said, you're so beautiful. You and your daughter have matching aloe sweatsuits. That's so beautiful. And as she's talking to this woman, she realizes she wasn't even at the right baggage claim. She was supposed to be at 5, and she was at 6. And she's told this woman something nice. They start talking. She realizes the woman at baggage claim is the woman she just DMed on the plane whose podcast she had just listened to, and she wasn't even at the right baggage claim. And she's telling me this story, and she goes, can you believe that? Anyway, I don't know what I'm supposed to do. I don't know how. And I go, oh, my goodness gracious. It's like, what if. Okay, let's just back up. She was like, wait, no, you're right. Isn't that crazy? I'm like, it's so the way it works. Like, what if you walked around knowing that you have full certainty that the miracle, the mystical, your relationship with your divine GPS is always exactly set, and your only job is to set down trying to figure out how you need to get into, like, the figuring of it all out. Instead, you're just. Look at you, just right there being moved right there into alignment. Into alignment. Even you went to six instead of five. You weren't. And I loved the piece of, like, she said, how pretty. This woman, she's like, you guys look so cute. Like a kindness, a word to the stranger opens up, like. And then now they're doing a collab together, right? Like, the whole thing, like, worked out so beautifully, so perfectly. Not to mention it was so meta, because the thing the podcast was about was exactly about what she wants to create in her own world, work. And so she got total validation that she should go and do exactly that, right? And so, you know, one of the things that I just really, really. And I love Rabbi Aaron, how you talked about, like, it's really just about creating our own conscious awareness of it because it's already there. So that is what I am always remembering to remember. And you know, I was talking to a friend the other day and she just, she took that big hike, the Camino de Santiago, right? It's like 500 miles or something. And she's a very, very deeply spiritual, amazing, awake, conscious, cool person. And she's like, you know, I thought my whole life that I was like really spiritually awake. And she, she has so much love. She's such a channel for so much goodness. And she goes, but, you know, it took like mile 300 and something on the hike where I realized there's this whole extra level of support. Just ask God for help like every once in a while, be like, hey, could you send me today by the end of. Could you give me some wisdom here? Like, I forget that it's available to me. I forget that God's my cfo. I forget that I can incorporate like that ass. Like, it's just. She's like, sometimes I, even though I think of myself as someone who believes in the divine, and she's like, I just, I Forget. And my 9 year old came out of her room a day after I was talking to this friend and she was counting money. She had $81, mostly in $ bills and fives. And she's putting the dollar bills and the dollars and the fives and the fives. And I looked and I know this is so obvious, but I held up the piece of the paper, the money, and I saw on it, of course, what does it say in God we Trust? Like it's on the dollar, right? Of course it is. And we know this. But like, I like, forget, I don't know, I don't think about that very often. So I took a picture and I sent it to this friend of mine who just had this conversation with me and she's like, you're right. Like, it's literally built in. Someone put it even on the dollar. Like, God is the cfo, God's the Federal Mint. There's no budget there. It's all there. It's all like. And then. But is it just lip service or is it real? Are you consciously aware that this is where it is all the time? Moving you to the right baggage claim at the right spot, always guiding you?
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Or is it just something you said one time? And I notice, and Rabbi, we've talked about this a lot because it's in your book so often we have such a, whatever relationship we developed with the divine from when we were like five, we never go back and like look at it again. And so it's something that we don't. It just feels like a nursery rhyme rather than like, wait, do I actually every single day, walking around in my life, feel supported by the consciousness, feel supported by the quantum field, really actually connect to this? Or is this something that my five year old self, ten year old self, didn't really get, maybe thought was a little bit not really for me or something. And now I'm just trying to do it all myself, like, where am I in all of that? So it behooves having the conversation. Rabbi Aaron, is there anything else that you want to add to all this?
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Yeah, I love that word assignment. You know, I think for whatever reason, you know, people have translated the Torah as having commandments, but in a much deeper way, I think another word that would, would be important to use it to translate is assignment. An assignment means that whoever is assigning me wants me to succeed and wants to be on my side. You know, like if, if I work for Google, then Google wants me to succeed and is going to give me all the training and all the tools for me to succeed. I think the mistake we make, we fail at our definition of success. That's our biggest failure, that we've got the wrong definition of what it really means to succeed. And a lot of people are feeling failures and in a certain way they really are, but not because they didn't make enough money and not because they have enough fame. It's because they have defined success in the wrong way and they failed at defining success. And the success is to live the light that you are. We are here to be living love lights for each other towards ourselves and always loving our neighbor as ourself in whatever way we can. And the more we can just be that channel for love and the support and care and empathy, the more we will just feel like, yeah, I'm doing my job. I just, you know, it's a funny thing when my wife sends me to the market and I've got my list of what I have to get and, and it's funny, like I feel a joy like, okay, I got, I had to get those tomatoes. I got it, check. You know, I got, I gotta get those cumbium. Okay, I got it, check. I said, it's so funny. I just love doing my job, you know, tell me what I gotta do and I do it. I'm just so happy to do what I Gotta do. And so when God gives me my shopping list, but it's not something I came to buy, it's something I came to give. And I'm not shopping, I'm not consuming, I'm sharing. And then you just feel great. Because there's no greater feeling than helping others have a greater feeling. And just do your job. And you can be sure that the boss wants you to succeed and is giving all the training and all the tools. And even when it looks like things are rough, it's all there. It's all training and tools so that you could succeed in giving the love that you were meant to give.
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You're gonna love this. What I'm about to tell you, that was so beautiful. You're gonna love this. So yesterday, my daughter, she's turning 14 this coming Saturday, the 22nd. And she started to cry. She's so upset. And I said, what is it that's upsetting you? And she said, my birthday. There's something about my birthday. And I don't know. I don't know. And I'm like, well, what is it you're crying? I mean, the tears were just streaming down her face. And she's like, I don't know. And I was like, let's see if we can come to the conclusion of what's breaking your heart. And she said, you know, you have a birthday, and then there's some expectation of, like, you're gonna do something great for your birthday. And she's like, I don't know. Last year, that was nice, you know, you took 12 of my friends to dinner and you took me shopping that day, and I got three things I wanted. And she goes, I don't know. Like, on a regular day, I don't have the expectation. But it gets so good. Watch what she said. She goes. And then the thing is, she goes, I don't need anything. Like, you asked me, what do you want? But you got me the bracelet last year. Then I feel guilty because I actually don't want anything. And then I feel disappointed. Like, wait, isn't. Shouldn't I have this, like, payoff of something I want that's going to get me. Excuse. I have the one necklace I wanted. You gave it to me last year. So then I'm like, looking at stuff, thinking, well, isn't there something wrong? That this doesn't make me feel like a wow. It's all just okay. I mean, I don't really need another pair of those earrings. I don't really need another pair of shoes. What's wrong with me that I don't feel the wow from a thing. I don't even feel it. Did something happen? And you asked me, what do you want for your birthday? And I went through all these websites and I was like, it's okay. And then. Is that weird? So then, watch this. She goes, I don't know. I guess there isn't anything that's gonna make do it. And then I said to her, what makes you feel so good? And she goes, I don't know. Being there for somebody else. Like, doing something for somebody else. What does that mean? I don't know. And then I said to her, wait, this is so deep. This is so beautiful. I said, you do have that necklace that you wanted for, but you already have it. So I said, what if you spent your birthday and we just did stuff for other people? And she's like. She literally said. She goes, I don't even want the recognition. I don't. I don't want the recognition, but I do want to do stuff, I guess. And so I said, what breaks your heart? Is it like, you know, is there something in the world? And you know what she said? She goes, I don't know. Like, that woman who washes our hair. We go to this one salon, and the woman's been there for 37 years. She goes, I don't know. I always cry because she's been there for 37 years, and she's so sweet, and she's kind of invisible. Like, I don't know her. I guess I just want her to feel, like, seen, I guess, her. And it was so beautiful. Like, she wasn't saying save the whales or, you know, she was just like, this one woman. And then she's like. And what about, like, our. Our nanny? Like, well, she was like our housekeeper. She's like, now that we move, like, does she have enough money? Like, who's taking care of her? I'm like, oh, my God. And I'm like, weeping at this point. I'm like, that's what we're going to do on your birthday. We're going to go visit that woman who washes our hair, and we're going to, like, just bring. She's like, I don't even want the recognition. You do it. I'm like, okay, fine. She's like. And then our housekeeper, she's like, let's just surprise her. Let's just surprise her with, like, some groceries and, you know, maybe give her $500. Like, you know, that would be really good. She starts getting all excited and she goes, remember that guy in New York City on the street? There was a guy who had these dancing. They were like, you know when music makes something move, whatever. He was playing a saxophone and all these little dancing animals. And he had such good energy from, like, Africa or something. And he was like, hello. Like, he was just so. And so I walked past him, and he had a Venmo. So I venmoed him $111. And then he saw my Venmo. So online on Venmo, he's like, I can't believe you just gave me $111. I was like, well, your energy was so amazing and so sweet. She goes, remember that guy in New York City? Would you just Venmo him for me? Like, out of nowhere, she goes, that's all I want for my birthday. And she goes, I'm so happy now. I couldn't figure out what was wrong with me. And then I felt like, do I not want attention? Is something weird? And then I had this amazing realization, and I said to her, oh, my God. First of all, I'm like, I love this conversation. And second of all, I was like, I've done you a little bit of a disservice because by always getting you, like, tell me what you want on your birthday, you do get desens. It's not that interesting. After you get the nice necklace and you get the nice bracelet and two pair. Two pairs of earring, what else do you need? She wears them all every day, the same ones, right? I'm like, okay, so the dopamine goes away, you know? And she's like, yeah. Then I felt like, what's wrong with me? I don't get the dopamine, I guess, from any of it. So is that weird? I'm like, no, because in your life, that's not actually fulfilling. What's fulfilling is what we just came to. It's doing things for other people because it's always gonna hit. It's always gonna pay off. And she's like, well, now I feel so much better. And then she comes back an hour later, she goes, but I did think of one thing I would want. Like, what? She's like, a cat. I'm like, you have four cats. She's like, but I love taking care of the cats. I'm like, we're not getting another cat. Unless. I said, unless you can convince my sister to take one. You can replace one. You can get another one. But it was, like, such an amazing conversation that at the level of being 14, you know, we get to the point where you've maxed out on the materialism. Right. And there's nothing else to gain from it. And I remember, Rabiar, you and I have talked about this where you've had experiences where people have amassed all the stuff, piles and piles, and then they're like, this is all it is, what's happening in here. So I just had to tell you that story and that just happened yesterday, sitting right over there. And so we're going to basically go on this little scavenger adventure on her birthday and just be kind of giving all these things. But I also love the very specific people she wanted to give to. Not just like, let's, you know, I mean, we could have done a million other things. We've gone to a soup kitchen that we like in particular. But it felt even more meaningful to me that she called out these specific people and she wanted to make them feel seen and not invisible.
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B
And.
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C
But I think it's exactly what you just said.
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B
Beautiful. You know, people think we came here to this world to have a good time, but we actually came to this world to do a good deed, and that's actually the best time. And, you know, how much can you have, have, have, when really we're here to be, to be kind, to be caring. And so many people are so fixated on trying to be one of a kind when we really should be trying to be one who is kind of. And that's what she's doing. And that's absolutely beautiful because that's what we came to do. We came to give, to share, to love, to lift people up. And we're, we're actually lifting ourselves up with that. And it's crazy. It's just crazy how much stuff people have. You know, I saw a bumper sticker that said, the best things in life are not things. And there are things. It's the. No things. It's love, it's peace, it's kindness, it's compassion, it's empathy. It's not about things and just having more things, more things. I mean, if I were to win a number of millions of dollars, I don't think I would change my lifestyle. I'm okay. I would feel thrilled that I can now give more and not that I have more.
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C
I think it comes from when you wake up, you know, within like four seconds of waking up, the mind is like, hello, let me tell you again how insignificant you are. And therefore, in order to feel like you're worthy, go get a lot of things outside of you. Then it will make you feel more inside of you, right? So it just becomes this hamster wheel of the ego being like, you're really in lack. So in order for you to be full, this is all the validation you need to scoop up outside of you. This is all the stuff you need to scoop up outside of you. And the soul is saying, is this a joke? Like, it's not about all that's outside of you that could ever, ever even penetrate what's going on inside of you. It doesn't work anyway. And so if we're not awake, we could spend every day, which leads to every week, which leads to every month, which leads to all the years of our life chasing down something outside of us that never, ever, ever could change anything about what's already inside of us. And the thing that's inside of us is our capacity to emanate the light of God and to channel goodness and light and kindness. And it's the most awesome thing we could ever do. And what's so amazing about it is the way that the universe was created is so abundant that just the wavelength and you're on is on the wavelength of everything that's that shiny and special and mystical. And then it just becomes, you know, like, Rabbi Aaron, how did you and I meet? I mean, I didn't figure that out. You didn't figure that out. It's just what's on your wavelength is on your wavelength, and that's the greatest. What kind of way could I even describe the gift that you've been in? My life goes way beyond a necklace, you know, God says a joke, you know, it's like, yeah, you can't define in any kind of quantity when somebody opens up your perspective to be able to actually perceive at the level of your soul and reality, the gift of that, you know, that's the gift that you brought into my life. And how was I even a match for that? I don't know. But just being on that frequency, just being on that divine dialogue, you bump into everything else that's on that dial. And it's pretty awesome to just be rerouted back to your. Your soul and to what you really. Because selfishly, that is what feels the best, is really emanating that kind of goodness, right?
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B
It's to realize that what really, really matters is not made of matter. It's made of spirit. And that's it. It's all about living in service of that light and that kindness and that peace and just doing our jobs. That's what we came to do, is build this world, turn it from a wild jungle into a royal kingdom where the king of love and peace is right there present in our lives.
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C
Rabbi Aaron, you said something earlier about how sometimes we're not on our own side. Remember you said that earlier, like God might be on our side, but we're not on our side. And I think a lot of this, what winds up playing out, that takes us off course is any kind of, you know, shame, guilt, fear, self doubt, all of that stuff. And then we just kind of try so hard to get everyone's approval or amass a lot of things or whatever it is. And I think so much of this comes back to what does it feel like to really find love within ourself. And as you always say, if you're meant to love your neighbor like yourself, you gotta start there. And one of the things that I've learned from you and I've learned from Kabbalah is that you know, God actually the way things are looked at, if you have been off course in some way and then you're able to show up at a greater level of your own integrity, that's actually a higher level in God's eyes than having always hitting it out of the park. It's like we all have the capacity, the pendulum can swing in both directions. Robin Williams was so funny because he could also be so deep. Right. So those of us who get in our own way sometimes, or self sabotage sometimes, or can run a hundred miles so fast, so intensely, but then realize we were doing it in the wrong direction. When you course correct, that's the moment and the way that God looks at that is so if you could only see the love that's coming at you when you course correct. You know, in mindfulness training, and I was trained in that the mind is always wandering. The mind is such a. It's very unrelenting, the mind. So what we learn is that when you're practicing meditation or mindfulness, the big win, literally that changes your prefrontal cortex. It's not a person who can just drop in like a monk. No. Because most people aren't like that. It's the moment you notice your brain has hijacked you and you bring your awareness back to the present moment. That moment, that moment that you notice, you bring the noticing that, oh my God, I was just ruminating on, on something and now I'm back here in this present moment. The moment you notice and come back, that's what literally it's all about. That was your bicep curl. That's the moment, that's the win. And in your life. And we talked about this rabbi yarn with you on one of our last calls. You're not going to necessarily be in your highest conscious state all day long. You're going to be like, oh, my God, why did I just get reactive? Or how did I just get pulled out of that? Or how did I get back into guilt? Or people, please. But the moment you notice and you bring it all back, it's like. It's like Rocky and like he just won that match. Right. And then you get to the next one. Whatever degree of negative comes from us getting kind of caught in what's not us, when we bring it back, it's like 10 times the amount of positive that just gets created. So I wanted to give you guys that so that you are very forgiving and very gentle with yourself. Right. In the process. And patient. Yeah. There are some questions. Should I ask you some of these questions? Yeah, for the next. Okay. The. One of the questions is, what if we don't hear or see an answer when talking to God, talking to divine, asking for guidance, do we keep asking the same question over and over?
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B
Well, you don't give up. But here's the problem. To hear the answer. Sometimes the answer is not the answer I want to hear. You know, one of my teachers explained that how is a prophet different than most people? And he said, most people hear what they've heard and see what they've seen, but the prophet hears for the first time every time and sees for the first time every time. And so what blocks us from hearing God is we've already in our heads, decided what we want to hear. You know, in the story of Abraham, his encounter with God is God says, go to you to a place that I will show you. And he doesn't know where he's going, but he goes anyways. And in order to let God into your life, you have to be willing to go where you don't know where you're going. But if you have these preconceived notions of where I should be going, where surely I know God would want me to be going. I have to be an open radio and not tell God what I should hear. You know, I gave a talk to a group of people from an ashram and a woman ran up to me and she said, what you said is exactly what our guru says. And she began to repeat what her guru said that had nothing to do with anything I had said. And I thought, this is so classic. She's hearing what she wants to hear. She's not hearing what's being said. And so too we might say, well, I'm not getting an answer from God. No, no, you don't like the answer from God. You're not really, really open for the answer from God. You know, to be open means I'm totally open. I don't come with preconceived notions. I don't have conditions. I'm just going to take this journey. I'm going to allow God to lead me. I don't know where he's taking me, but that's okay because I know who's taking me.
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C
So beautiful. Another question was, I feel good with my relationship with the divine, but I struggle with belonging and connection when it comes to relationships with other humans. Any tips?
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B
Yeah. The tip is to stop thinking there's some kind of separation between the other human beings and the divine. You meet God in people because each soul is a ray of, so to speak, of God. And so we've created this kind of fragmentation that there's God and the divine and then there's people. But God is manifest everywhere in everyone. We just have to tune into that and look for that. And there's a lot of people that they themselves are in denial about that by themselves. And the more we see it in them, the more we'll bring it out in them. I think when we create this dichotomy, there's humans and there's the divine, then of course we want the divine. But the truth is that as we mentioned before, God is love. And so when you are loving, you are literally filled with the presence of God. When you are piecing or kinding or, you know, truthing, when you're living that verb, then literally, God is that. And so people are. The opportunity to meet God is the love in your heart, the kindness in your heart, the empathy in your heart. And so it goes back to, like, where is God? And the answer is, where is he not? It's just we're blocking out the light. And because we've been so convinced that God is someone somewhere over there. So, you know, one of my students are like, I, you know, I. He said, I go to the Western Wall and people say they feel God. I don't feel God. And I said, that's because, you know that God is not someone somewhere over there. It's just marveling over feeling at all is a God moment. Just marveling over the ability to marvel at all is a God moment. What's not a God moment? Well, what's Not a God moment is when you fill your heart with hate. That's definitely not a God moment, but our relationship with people, you know, it says love your neighbor as yourself, but the end of that verse is I am God. What does I am God have to do with love your neighbor as yourself? It doesn't say I am God. The word God is not found in the Torah. It says I am the tetragrammaton, which means I am all there ever was is and ever will be. There's only one I am. And if you realize there's only one I am. When you meet somebody, that's your right hand meeting your left hand that share a shared one I am. And so when you realize that my I am and your I am are rays of colors in the spectrum of the white light of that universal great I am, then every human being is an is an opportunity to meet a little bit more of the great I am that we share so often.
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C
You know, what's happening is everybody, you know, I always say in the morning, I say to God, I'm like, all day is a divine conversation with you. So just I want to stay in that consciousness all day. And it really is amazing how certain moments, what's happening is with certain people. Yes. You know, the moment might be about offering compassion. And in other moments, what's coming up as a feeling of ugh is that you might have been self abandoning in this relationship for so long and you need to. It's knocking again at the door and making you feel that ugh. Because this is an opportunity for you to speak truth or to set down guilt or to actually create intimacy by authenticity. And all of that is working on behalf of again, whatever you need to be led to. Okay, one last question. How do we tell the difference between God responding to us versus our own thoughts? Most of the time I can't tell.
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B
Well, actually, according to the Kabbalah, God speaks through many mediums. One of them is logic. If logic says something, that's how God speaks to us. God speaks to us through us. And one of the mechanisms is logic. So if my heart says something, but it goes against logic. You know, one of my teachers said, how do you know you've met your life partner? If your heart says no, but your head says yes, don't go for it. If your head says yes. Now if your head says no and your heart says yes, don't go for it. But if your heart says yes and your head has no opinion, go for it. And if your head says yes and your Heart has no opinion, go for it. And it would be great if they both said yes. But that doesn't always happen. But there's a, like there's a little knowing, you know. So one of the ways God speaks to us is through logic. One of the ways God speaks to us is our conscience. That conscience is telling me, no, you could do better, or that was not so compassionate or that was impatient. And one of the ways God speaks to us is through other people that we meet. Like you. Like you mentioned before, you get into a conversation and specifically a thing you've been struggling with, this person just happens to mention, you go, oh, whoa, you know, or you pick up a book. You know, very often I, I like to just randomly open up a book and say God speaks to me. And it's amazing how many times it actually works where I just randomly open up a book. I have a question in my head that I would like to get some answer and very often I get the answer. If not, I open up another page. But it's really kind of funny that it's just again starting with living without conditions, unconditional living, that I'm not going to tell God what's good because I don't know for sure what's good. I just know that I want to do good and that's it. I just want to do good. I just want to be a loving person, a caring person and just want to help. And I just love to do my job. I'd like to fulfill my assignment.
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C
One thing I'd like to say about it, this question. You know, Rabbi Aaron said earlier, you know, Love Almighty, what would you do? Wisdom Almighty, what would you do? Truth Almighty, what would you do? And I think that what keeps us from actually knowing what the answer is is any kind of way that we don't drop into what is the Truth Almighty. Because the mind wants to control how we're perceived and has guilt, shame, doubt, fear, all of that stuff. But the truth is that love is all that's real. And so whatever would be the most loving. Sometimes it's hard, sometimes it's not what people want. But if it's coming from love, liberation is never a one way street. And so it comes down to like just checking in and being sovereign. What is the truth of me know? And if I then set down being responsible for all the outcomes of whatever would happen once I make this decision to tell the truth, like that's God's business, right? It's really about trusting the sovereignty of what the wisdom is that you're being told it is and then not being so controlling around how you'll then be perceived or what will be the fallout if you. It's just trusting to lead from that alignment. We often know exactly what our alignment is. And the answer is it's just the courage to choose it. It's really not a question of hearing the answer. It's the courage to choose what the answer is that you've been told. That's usually really more on point. Rabiar. And I know you have to go. I want to say thank you to everybody for coming.
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B
Everybody, thank you so much. It's such a gift that you're allowing me to share. So thank you for being so receptive. Thank you so much. And just a lot of light to you all. Thank you so much.
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C
You're such a light. Lots of love.
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A
He's so amazing. I love talking with Rabbi Aaron. Just a reminder, if you want to join these monthly calls with Rabbi Aaron, if you want to join me, plus you want to get accountability for your morning practice, if you want me to teach you Kabbalah, if you want to be with me doing these live coaching sessions, one more thing. Every single week inside the membership, because this Abundant Life, that's the name of the membership. It's really about implementing everything I write about in the book. It's really about implementing everything we talk about on this podcast and bringing it to life. One of the things that we're doing is changing your relationship with abundance, changing your relationship with money, changing your relationship with your state of being, your vibration, your frequency, helping you master manifestation. And so every single week, I give you a deeper dive on how to change your relationship with money itself. And we do live sessions in there, live coaching every other week. But one of the things I do every week in addition is send you a money drop. It's like a audio that gives you a little bit about money and then something you can practice. And so just to give you another teaser to show you why I think every single one of you who's listening should join this membership and just try it, try it for at least a month, right? Because it's month to month. You can cancel whenever you want. And this week, you can get the Black Friday deal. Use the code Friday, you get it for 50% off. Like, it's so unbelievably worth it for you to be changing your consciousness and being in this work where you are dialing in a different relationship with money. Check out this money drop. This is one thing that I do in the membership. Every single day I send you a meditation, but once a week, I send you a specific exercise about money. And then every other week, we do a live masterclass. Not to mention you're surrounded by an amazing community, and we do these incredible morning practices together. And that alone, literally, the science says when you start your morning and instead of being hijacked by your phone, but you start your morning from intention and from the way that we teach you to visualize and we do it together as a collective, you're going to see your life change. But check out this money drop. We do this also every single week in the membership. Take a listen. Money doesn't respond to effort. Money responds to resonance. And most people try to manifest from lack of they want for money, but they're really longing, which secretly broadcasts I don't have it. They usually visualize money out in the distance, which keeps it far away. They ask for abundance while feeling unworthy of receiving it. But here's the real deal. Money comes when you become a match for the version of you who already has that wholeness. So when you shift into a different level of your being, the quantum field rearranges around you. When you tune into the energy of what feels satisfied, opportunities sprint toward you. When you move into the frequency of I am already provided for. The universe says, oh, now I can finally deliver. Money is not the thing that you chase. It's the echo of your identity. It mirrors your state of being. It arrives according to your inner wealth, not your outer hustle. You don't magnetize money by begging for it. You magnetize money by being the woman for whom money is natural. That is the entire game. Identity first, reality second. So here's an exercise. This takes about three minutes. You could do it today. Step one. Close your eyes. Put your hand on your heart. Breathe into the version of you who already makes the amount of money you desire. Let her energy rise up in your chest. STEP 2. Ask one question of this version of you. Ask, how does this version of me walk into her day? Let the answer come through in a word, a posture, a feeling. An example would be relaxed, decisive, sovereign, generous, unapologetic. Step 3. Choose one action in that frequency. Not 10, just one. One decision. One email, one boundary, one conversation, one piece of content that this wealthier, whole version of you would do without hesitation. Step four. Take that action within 24 hours. That shifts your timeline. Instantly, you're sending a signal to the universe that says, I choose this version of me. I choose this story. I choose this level now. And Step five. Write down what lined up what synchronicities, what opportunities, what money signs, what ideas, and you're going to start tracking how the quantum has responded to you. If you want all of this and more, you can sign up for a membership and get the Black Friday deal at 50% off your first month. Go to kathyheller.com life and use code Friday at checkout. Okay, here are the takeaways. Number one. You don't have to make a connection to the divine because the connection is already there. You have to simply become mindful of it and grateful for it. Number two. God is not a loving being. God is love itself. Number three. You'll find God wherever you let him in. And in order to let God in, you have to be willing to go where you don't know where you're going. Be an open radio. Number four. An assignment means that whoever assigning you wants you to succeed and wants to be on your side. Number five. Success is to live the light that you are. We are here to be living love lights for each other and towards ourselves. Number six. Every human being is an opportunity to meet a little bit more of the great I am that we share. God is manifest everywhere in everyone. Number seven. We often know exactly what our alignment is. It's just the courage to choose it. It's really not a question of hearing the answer, it's the courage to choose what the answer is that you've been told. 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