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Everything Is Energy with Cathy Heller
Craig Siegel on Reinventing Your Life, Certainty Consciousness & Manifesting Miracles
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Kathy Heller
Have you ever noticed that sometimes life suddenly just opens up and the impossible starts to feel possible? On March 17, I'm teaching a special masterclass called the Spiritual Energy of Freedom. Just as we step into the powerful energy of the Aries season. Aries is the energy of courage, new beginnings, and bold movement forward. And in this class, we're going to explore how real breakthroughs, how they happen, not just through effort, but through alignment with your soul. We're going to talk about what it means to align with who. Who you really are, with your divine guidance system, and expand your capacity to shift your consciousness so that new possibilities actually reach you. Because when you reconnect with the divine presence within you and you reconnect to God, something incredible happens. Fear loosens its grip and new paths begin to appear. If you're ready for your next breakthrough, I'd love for you to join me. On March 17, I'll be teaching this live. You can sign up@kathyheller.com energy. Hey, guys, it's Kathy Heller. Welcome back to Everything Is Energy. I'm so excited about today's conversation because Craig Siegel is here, and I love him so much. And this conversation, I just think it's going to light you up in such a way. Craig is one of those people who, as soon as you're with him, you just feel like your whole frequency has shifted, because he's so generous with his energy and he's so loving, and he's just such a bright soul, and he's so wise. He is an entrepreneur. He's a keynote speaker, he is a marathoner, investor, he's a coach. He's the host of the CLS Experience podcast and someone who has helped thousands of people step into a more beautiful, bigger version of themselves. What I love most about him is the way he talks about life. And he has this beautiful way of blending personal development and spiritual wisdom and the teachings of Kabbalah into something that feel incredibly empowering and practical. We sat down and had an amazing conversation about how do you truly live with certainty? And what does it mean to actually reinvent your life? And how do you plug into the infinite energy of your creator? And why the most powerful thing you can do every single day is pause long enough to reconnect with that origin, that genesis moment. We also talk about certainty, consciousness, the difference between your ego and your soul, and how you can identify what actually determines your life and how you see yourself in your life. This conversation is deep and inspiring, and it's so fun. Craig is such a beautiful person that his energy and his enthusiasm is so contagious, and he helps you see what's possible in such an amazing way. So without further ado, please welcome the remarkable Craig Siegel.
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Craig, I'm so happy to have you on the show. We just rebranded our show after a thousand episodes, and you are such a perfect guest to have to really, like, sing the song of this message that everything is energy, because you are extraordinary at being a person. You really are. You are such a lightning rod. You are such a giver. You are so generous, and your energy is so infectious and. And so beautiful and so coherent. And from the moment I first met you, I was like, oh, my God, this guy is such a gift to all of us. Really, truly, you are such a rare resonance in this world. So thank you for being on.
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Craig Siegel
My pleasure. Thank you so much. I love what you just said. We've definitely been connected in a previous lifetime. I just want to say one thing. I was thinking, because I love everything that you share and the way that you share it, and I was getting pumped to the episode. She got back from a run, took a quick shower, and I was thinking, like, with all your experience with different modalities of personal development and obviously your extensive studies of the wisdom of Kamala. So if you think of different modalities, there's like, nlp, Law of attraction, psychology, Kabbalah, the list goes on. But Kathy Heller is her own genre. The way that you share stuff, it's so beautiful, and you just have such an amazing way of really empowering people to see what's possible. And I love that about you, and I just want to acknowledge you.
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Kathy Heller
I love you. You're so lovable. You're so loving. Thank you for saying it. That's such a kind. That's such an awesome comment. You're your own genre. I love that. Yeah. Thank you. I. I've been so fascinated watching you, because from the moment I met you, you were already on to some really good stuff. Like, you had already uncovered some of the most beautiful ways to be activated, to be in flow. And then I've just seen you continue to, like, expand, which is so fun. And it's amazing how, even though you're not local, energy is local. So I can just feel you. I can feel you from across the miles, and I'm watching the way that you are impacting others. So let's dive in a little bit to the way you see the world and the way you get yourself into flow. So what does it mean to you? You know, you talk about the reinvention formula. You have this book, you do so much incredible work with people. Let's just talk about that before you even get into the zone where you're able to reinvent. How do you plug in, how do you tap in? How do you get your energy to a place where you feel like you are actually in alignment every single day?
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Craig Siegel
So amazing. So I think about a couple things practically. I like to get grounded and centered, right? And connect with Creator and be able to channel and make sure that I don't let the ego interfere. Meaning anything that typically happens is not us doing it. And I think the moment that we think that we're responsible, it's easy to get disconnected or tap into that ego consciousness. So just to realize that I'm a conduit and to ask the Creator to please speak through me and channel whatever it is, however it is, that I can contribute impact for that day. And you never know what that could be. But it's interesting because on a different level, on a more spiritual level, if you think about it, before every creation, before any amazing thing that happened that changed the trajectory of someone's life, whether that was a historical figure, Nobel Prize winner, Steve Jobs, Walt Disney, whoever, there was a moment before the creation, a moment of stillness. And that moment of stillness is Genesis. And most of us don't take the time to question our origins. And I think most people tend to, quote, unquote, fail or not reach their potential, not because of a lack of effort or desire, but because of a misaligned origin. So really, just getting clear each and every single day and taking the time to think about what is the origin of my choices and making sure that it's in alignment with. With who we want to become and who we were meant to become. And it's a priority every single day. Very important, non negotiable.
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Kathy Heller
Oh, my gosh, that is such a deep answer. It's such a profound answer. And you said so many things that are so embodied for you that you're saying them in with such certainty. Like, as certain as you are that you're sitting here in this moment, you're saying so many things so clearly about the way you see the universe, the way you feel connected to why you're in this universe. So I would love you to share, first of all, some of those ways in which you see the world, that for you, it's just so second nature. When you say plugging in to being able to, you know, be connected to the Creator, what does that mean to you? And for People who feel like they. They're so new to that language. How will you make that make sense to them? And then we're going to unpack what you just finished with, which is really coming from this genesis of, like, where are all your choices coming from? Let's go to that next. But just the basic. The foundation of your being is that there is a certainty that you are here and the Creator is here and the two of you are working together. And I think that is number one. And so I'd love to know what. What does that mean for somebody who would love to feel that way? And how did it start to be something that you felt you could actually really lean into and embody? And it didn't just seem like a nice idea, but it felt like the truth, the reality itself.
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Craig Siegel
Yeah. How much time do we have? Right. Speak of my love language. So few things that come to mind. Number one, maybe your audience, I imagine, is absolutely familiar with the way that you utilize Creator, but just to make it even a little bit more digestible. So whether that's God, Creator, Universe, Quantum, whatever your thing is, I think one thing that we can all agree on is this is in. In endless energy. And so our bodies, us as individuals technically, are limited. We're finite, right. But when we can channel that endless energy, then essentially we become limitless. And that's the whole idea. And, you know, speaking of the wisdom of Kabbalah, essentially, for me, the way that I look at it, it's a system for understanding how reality actually works, right? So how the laws of cause and effect operate at the level of thought, energy, emotion, and even action. And so what I've experienced is that most people try to change outcomes without upgrading their operating system, Right? And I think I've heard you talk about this, but, like, you can change the environment and still run the same program. So you really need an identity overhaul. And so one thing, first and foremost, is to just realize that there's something else bigger happening here. And if we don't take the time, if we don't make the conscious effort to tap into that, to plug into that, then we're always going to be limited, we're never going to be fulfilled, and we'll always have a ceiling to an extent on what we can accomplish here in this reality. And so for anyone listening, whatever it is that your path is, I imagine it's a lot of the stuff that Kathy speaks about, that's why you're connected to. I would just say take time to plug in, find out what is the path, what is the trajectory? And then essentially every single choice throughout the course of the day is going to take you closer to that path, to that objective, that trajectory, or further away. So it's the whole battle between soul and ego every single day, by the way, spoiler.
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Kathy Heller
Every single.
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Craig Siegel
Everybody's in that battle, right? Every single day. It's good to have the awareness that you're in the battle. But awareness doesn't demand change. It creates choices. So now that we've elevated our consciousness, now we have choices in how we want to go about the day.
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Kathy Heller
I mean, it's like, no wonder that you are such a mic drop wherever you go. If you're on the subway, if you're at Starbucks. Everyone just loves being around you because your way of seeing the world and your way of being in the world is so beautiful. It is so beautiful to hear the thoughts that come out of you just pour through you. And you said so many important things, and you talked about identity and that operating system, and you talked about how when we understand, like, we are each basically a lamp, and therefore the electricity does the heavy lifting, but we could be a lamp for that electricity. And if that electricity is infinite, and then that's when we become infinite. And so really understanding Craig Siegel is maybe a part you're playing, but who you really are is a vehicle for the light, for this infinite light. And that is where you begin and where you end is knowing that that's huge. That changes everything. Right. When you understand the identity, and that's what you're saying you need an identity overhaul. I think a lot of people are walking around with this, like, old operating system of an identity that keeps them from understanding how much wants to pour through them. Right. How much they don't have to figure it out. We're so married to these old identities. And these old identities don't have the capacity that our soul has.
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Right.
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And that's what you're saying.
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Craig Siegel
Yeah. And the soul, every single day, the soul just wants one thing. To expand, to grow, to express. And the ego that we spoke about wants to contract. Right. It's fragmented. And by the way, I lived in ego consciousness for quite a long time, so.
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Kathy Heller
We all did.
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Craig Siegel
Yeah. So. So I have such contrast. And I wasn't always like this. So it's important to know that everybody that's listening, that's feeling empowered right now are encouraged. Everything can change in an instant when you start elevating your level of awareness. And one thing that you said was so beautiful is that we call it in Kabbalah, the light force, right? So it's everywhere. That's the thing that we all want to plug into. It's infinite. And so I imagine some of the listeners right now are like, okay, this sounds great, but how do I plug in? Well, plain and simple, to connect to the flow of light, you need to be like the light to act like the light. And we can obviously go deeper into that. But step number one is to begin to act like that, and then you become more of a channel. So I love what you said. So Craig Siegel's this person I'm playing, right? Kathy Hallow. We're these vehicles. Our soul is inside this body. And if it is unlimited out there. So why are we not always plugged in? Why are we not always manifesting and creating? Why do we sometimes experience turbulence, obstacles and challenges? Well, there are very specific tools. And one of the coolest parts about Cabal is it gives us a whole toolkit, a whole rule book, if you will, to be able to connect more to that energy and the byproduct of that is participating in a reality that's beyond our logic, one that's filled with the miraculous, and that's the winning ticket.
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Kathy Heller
So good. I would love you to comment on when you said, I know what it's like to live the other way. I know what it's like to be in this, like, ego consciousness. Like, I am pregnant and I have to figure this out and I have to hustle. Right. And you feel the difference between that identity and where you are now. I think about when we watch people in flow state. You know, you see Michael Jordan, you see clips of him playing basketball, or you're thinking about Michelangelo painting the Sistine Chapel. I've heard Tom Petty say, I'm playing guitar, and I'm well aware there's something greater than me playing through me. I am a vehicle for something bigger than myself, for a power greater than myself. Those are the moments where time stands still. Those are the moments where we drop this limitation of what we have to do, what we have to hustle, we have to manage, and we just are in this flow. We become a vehicle, this expanded vehicle for a force greater than ourself. And we even see it on fmri. The brain moves into gamma. There's so much happening, and we become really electromagnetic. It's like our aura actually, like, extends, and everything around us gets a biological update. But I want you to comment on what was that shift for you, or what is a way for you to express how you once Lived and what changed or how it is now versus then, like, for people who might want to hear, like, your real life experience of what is the contrast, what is the difference? And how did that shift for you?
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Craig Siegel
Yeah, oh, man, don't make me go back. But it's funny because you've been on this path for a lot longer than I have in regards to connected to the wisdom and really understanding. For me, it took a little bit longer in life. And so when I look back on my life and I just turned 40
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Kathy Heller
years on, it took us 40 years in the desert to enter the promised land. So I always tell people it starts at 40. It literally begins at 40. So welcome. Right on time.
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Craig Siegel
Already the best decade so far. And, you know, I think I've had two lives within this reality. One was prior to the pandemic, and then one was after when I. When I sort of had my awakening and began to express my soul in the way that it's. It's meant to be expressed. And so prior to the pandemic, I spent 13 years on Wall Street. And right away, when I say that word, I imagine some people are triggered, like, oh, I've seen the movie. I can only imagine. And maybe not all that's true, but a lot of it is. It's a lot of ego. It's very transactional. It's what's in it for me. It's a lot about money, materialistic stuff. And ultimately, back then, when I was connected to that, you have a different definition of success, because you don't know what you don't know. And you think that success, or at least my experience, was these things in the materialistic world. And by the way, those things are still cool. They're just not the reason that we're here. This should be a byproduct, right? And so ultimately, what would happen is I would hit goals or would make money, or I was in relationships that I knew were misaligned and I would never be fulfilled. They would always sabotage or something would always happen that had me feeling sort of empty. And so I always considered what else would be possible. But I didn't take the time, as we spoke about earlier, to create that moment of stillness, that genesis, to question my origin of my choices.
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Kathy Heller
And.
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Craig Siegel
And so the pandemic or the lockdown specifically provided me an unbelievable opportunity to really reassess this whole thing. And it was in that moment when I read books about Kabbalah throughout the years, I loved it, but I was more of a spiritual shopper. So then I'd be onto something else. But I always love the way Kabalo made me feel. In the pandemic, I really started utilizing the tools and connecting with creator, and I received downloads. That was personal development, which was an amazing tool for me that I utilize to, quote, unquote, become successful in business and marathons and different things. It occurred to me in that moment that this was more than just a tool. This is the reason that we're here, in the idea that this is how I can best express the version of my soul that the world needs to hear. And so if you just break it down like that. Our soul is the essence of who we are. Our soul is our true self. It's the extension of the light. And prior to that moment, I wasn't expressing my soul. I was detached from that. And I was plugged into this 1% reality, where it was do more as opposed to be more. What else can I get? Look at me. And so I started to understand that the light force is this infinite energy of inspiration, of love, healing, and really everything else. And then I began to plug into that, and I just started to see the world totally differently. And I started utilizing these tools such as restriction and being proactive, and my world just began to expand. Not just success, quote, unquote, success, but the way that I perceive the world, the way that the difference that I was making, the amount of fun I was having, the joy, obviously, the prosperity, the sustenance, all of that. And so it's just this big difference of really finding out what your thing is and never giving up, trying to find out what the thing and find a way to share that or express it in the world in some capacity. And that's the path that I believe that we're all on. It just took me 35 years to get in motion with that.
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Kathy Heller
I love that you shared that. And I'm not surprised that you kept feeling as though, is this all there is, because you have such a deep na. You have such a deep soul. And I think it's. Tony Robbins has that quote that success without fulfillment is the ultimate failure because you get all of these things. And like you said, there's nothing wrong with staying in a nice hotel or eating great food or having a nice towel. But it should be a byproduct because we came to the world with way bigger dreams. We have way bigger dreams than piles of things. We have way bigger dreams. And so I love what you said about how you knew that there was this, like, 1% of reality, right? This physical plane, but then there's this 99% of reality, which is this vibrational plane. And you're like, get me at that. Like, I want all of it. Like, I want to go so much deeper. And so here you are, and I want to now go back to. You have this upcoming event with this name, Genesis, and you just talked about it. I want to now, like, go into unpacking that. That's a profound thought. In fact, I've had over a thousand people on the show, you being one of them several years ago, but I don't think anyone has articulated it that well. And I have really often thought about how when we wake up in the morning, we're just like Groundhog Day. It's like the same thoughts, same feelings you're going to take, the same actions. You're almost like, why even bother? You sort of feel this set point of you can predict. You basically project the past onto the day and you say, it's going to be the kind of the same thing. And to stop and to get out of the blizzard of that mind, which is all fake news, and to really go deep into what is the genesis. What is the origin from which you want to make your intention. What are you really here to do today with this blank canvas? Talk to us about that. Talk to us about that, because I think you change your morning, you change your life, right? You change the beginning of the day. Everything changes. And I don't think most people know how to get to it because they grab their phones and the world pulls them in a million directions. They go right back into the program. So talk to us about what does it mean to be able to get leverage on the genesis of your intentions?
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Craig Siegel
So amazing, right? Because so many of us are living in the Matrix, plugged into that world, reactive, default, like the walking dead, for lack of better words.
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Kathy Heller
True. Yeah.
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Craig Siegel
Just like a robot, like, okay, go to work, come back. This is what society told me to do. And by the way, I participate in that for quite some time. And like you said earlier, I. I always considered that there was something else available. And so people don't take the time for whatever reason. We can go into that, but the. The problem is, is they don't take the time. And one of the many things that Kabbalah taught me is that where your energy goes, the life responds, right? Not morally, but mechanically. So when I stopped leaking energy into proving, into forcing, into performing or defending, I suddenly had capacity to build, to create, to receive so much more. And that starts in that stillness, in that moment of Genesis. Each and every single day. By the way, someone can put into practice immediately. So why is meditating so popular? Or how many times we got intuition? What is that? Where did that nugget come from? Where did that download come from? It definitely doesn't come from the doing or constantly grinding. It comes in, in those moments of quiet, of stillness, right? So whatever it is, by the way, if you're on a mountaintop, if you're running, it's moving, meditation, whatever your thing is, you get something and then that turns into a path and it could possibly change the world. But we don't make time for that. And that's one of the biggest things that the lockdown provided me. And by the way, for your listeners, don't wait for a global pandemic like I did. Do it proactively. After this conversation. Take the time, clear your calendar, or put in the calendar just white space and just connect and be available for what comes through. Because that's the magic, right? So if it's true that our soul is an expression of that entire life force, then don't we want it to communicate to us all the time, or at least more often? But it doesn't happen unless we create that vessel to receive that. And so each and every single day, I encourage everybody, before it gets gone, before you get quote, unquote busy, take the time, be available and connect to that, and you will receive some of the best downloads possible for yourself. And by the way, it might not happen in that moment. Maybe you ask a question and it comes through someone else in the elevator the next day. But as long as you create the vessel for it, it has to be fulfilled. So taking the time, understanding that most of us don't question our origin and getting curious about it now, we can be available for that one thought, that path that can change the entire trajectory of our life.
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Kathy Heller
I love that so much. I have said recently that, you know, people think miracles are when things happen in the environment outside of us, but everything's already been created, everything's already in escrow, everything's here. So. So the miracle is when something shifts in our awareness and all of a sudden we can perceive the miracle. Right? It's amazing how you think of a miracle as like Moses splitting the Red Sea. But very often a miracle in your life is a expansion in your consciousness. It's the capacity to perceive greater. And all of a sudden you see there's the solution or there's the opportunity, or there's the vision. And if we're not creating that white Space, or we're not plugging in, we're continuously looking outside of ourselves where there are no answers, as opposed to looking to the whisper within ourself. And so I often, you know, say to God, open my eyes and show me what you want me to see. You know, I say to the creator, show me that I'm at the right place at the right time today and open my eyes so that I may see where you would be directing me to go. Because what I want is ultimately what. What's my soul's potential? What's my soul's path, right? Not what the world tells me to be. Not what my parents told me I'm just gonna be, but what is my soul asking? And if you. If you're daring enough to ask that question, it's amazing. I've done this in rooms with thousands over the course of the last 10 years, thousands of people, they always get an answer. They always get an answer, and they realize, oh, I haven't asked that question. I haven't even stopped. You know, it's like sometimes you want to get a doctor's appointment, right? Like, I want to see an ENT right now. Something with my ear. I got to wait six weeks. The creator is always on the line. You know, you think about like, wow, I could literally get the creator of the universe on the phone right this second. And why wouldn't I? It's because you don't even realize there's a whole other dimension that is literally available to you to plug into.
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Craig Siegel
So beautiful. Two things you just said. I just really want to unpack. So you mentioned the splitting of the Red Sea, and so even that. So the Israelites were leaving Egypt. And by the way, it's an amazing story. Everyone most likely knows story of Exodus, but Egypt represents the ego, right? And so we're looking to be detached from that. And then the seed didn't split, right? Until it was basically up to their chin, until they had no choice but to express absolute 100% certainty, zero doubt. And with that tool, which is one of the best tool, one of the most amazing tools that Kamala offers, the tool of certainty, consciousness, than in split. So how many of us can change our life today just by changing our consciousness? So replacing doubt with certainty right there, you can receive a miracle just today. And the other thing you said was asking the creator, right? So. And for people that are in a relationship right now, let's say you're not sure about the relationship, even just asking the creator, right? If this person's the one Amazing. Let me know, let's make it happen in a big way. And if it's not, please somehow remove them from my movie or, or make me aware of the situation. But I'm trusting him 100%. It's in his court. Just show me, like expedite the growth. And sometimes, by the way, it's painful, but I imagine we're on the same page. Like, I would rather expedite, rip that band aid off and learn the lesson right away and expand from it than stay in something that was misaligned for an extra three years. And so just having that conversation, communicating. The nuggets that you're dropping right now are price, I mean, nine figure nuggets for anybody that's willing to apply these.
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Kathy Heller
I love the way you just said. In fact, I've heard it so many different times, but I think you just said it my favorite way. Craig, I love when you just said the tool of absolute certainty and the way you described it, it's so powerful how you just said. And that certainty, consciousness, that's the greatest miracle. And it is. Let's talk about that for a second. Because I don't think people know that story as deeply. You know, they've seen the Prince of Egypt or they watched the Charlton Heston ten Commandments. But in the Torah and the Bible, in the Old Testament, however you like to say it, the story actually goes that there was one Israelite, his name was Nachshon. He walked into the sea and up until, you know, the knees, the shoulders, and to the point where it literally was over his head. And that's the moment the C split. People don't know that detail, but that detail is everything. Because there was no choice other than to bend the 3D reality that this was then a fait accompli, right? And it's amazing how we fail to recognize that 1% of reality is the physical plane and 99% of atoms are, are vibrational. Doctors are doing amazing things now with sound waves. Everything we know is frequency. The most impressive thing in a room is somebody's energy. It's not what they're wearing. It's the vibe. It's always the vibe. That's the most tangible thing yet. We focus on the physical. And so in that moment, instead of focusing on this physical reality, there was a move, there was a quantum leap into certainty beyond the physical, whatever the logical looks like, you go beyond that. And I want you to explain that because I think for people that is, like you just said, the greatest miracle of your life is Moving into certainty, consciousness. It seems to some people like we are absurd when we say that. Like, it seems like that is the biggest spiritual bypass tool you've ever heard. And yet you and I know it. It's not a belief, it's a knowing Talk more about what the heck does it mean to have certainty. People don't know what that means. Especially when I always say, be willing to be in the unknown. They're like, so why are you talking about certainty? You keep talking about loving the unknown. How do you understand certainty? So tell us more about certainty and how great of a tool that is.
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Craig Siegel
This is amazing, by the way. And by the way, what you just said is not an either or, right? So can you be certain that the unknown is going to reveal the right path? That's it to me. That's not like you need the OR as an also end.
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Kathy Heller
Right?
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Craig Siegel
So let's even go a step further back. So Kabbalah completely flipped my understanding of desire and certainty, right? So we're taught typically to want less, need less, shrink ourselves. Yeah, that's not in the cards for me. Or I'm not worthy of that. Or yeah, that's. That's their story, not mine. But Kabbalah says the opposite, actually, that your desire is the engine of creation, certainty as well. So the issue isn't that you want too much, it's that your capacity, or as we say, our vessel, to hold what we want hasn't yet caught up. And so the work isn't just manifesting the thing, the work is becoming the person who can sustain it without self destructing. Right? And this changed everything for me. Because one of the ways that we can do that, that we can become that person, we can expand our capacity is through this idea of certainty. And it's a consciousness. So think about it like this. Just to make it practical, let's say you had employees for your listeners, entrepreneurs, and you have employees, right? Let's say the person in a specific role you knew was misaligned and wasn't getting it done, but you needed someone there to do something, but they weren't really up to your standards or the position that you set. So most people would probably let it go or try to find a replacement first. But could you, would you be willing to be so certain that if you let that person go because they were misaligned and you created the space, that the unknown or the Creator is going to send you the exact right person? Because now you made the space for it? That's very difficult for a lot of People to comprehend. Wait a minute. So I should let go? I have no one there. But I'm. I'm certain that the right one's coming. That's exactly what I'm saying. And most people aren't willing to do that. But that's one of the best ways instantly in a situation like that to begin to flex the muscle of certainty is when it's beyond logical.
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Kathy Heller
That's exactly right. And the truth is, what you said at the beginning, it's not either or actually. The whole point of certainty is the unknown. Right. It's exactly. The whole point of certainty is that you are surrendering, needing to know. You are willing to go through the looking glass. You are willing to stop saying, I'm going to figure it out. I'm going to figure it out. Instead, you look out at nature. Nothing is rushing, nothing feels urgent because we're all one with this ecosystem. And the sun and the moon and the wind and the rain and all dances together so perfectly in such perfect geometric patterns. And that's what the trees know that we don't. They can just let go of feeling the need to worry. It says, I love when Rabbi Berg says, you would do better, you would manifest better if you just took a nap. Like, if you literally just took a nap for the next nine months, like a bear in the woods, you're. You'd wake up. Everything be manifested, right? Because what's getting in the way is your lack of certainty. What's literally keeping you from allowing in the blessing is the doubt and the getting involved and the trying to move all these things when literally it's designed to move itself.
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Right?
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I love looking at a bee. The way that God created the world is so amazing. You look at the eye of a bee, it looks like honeycomb. It's like if you look at just the vascular system, the bronchial system, the complexity of that. Look at the trees. You know, we just celebrated tu bishop, this holiday of trees. You know, underneath the floor, underneath the forest floor, the trees talk to each other. They call it the wood world wide web. The wood world web. They literally, from thousands of miles away, trees are talking to each other, sending each other messages. Right? It's unbelievable. The complexity and the brilliance that's already in the fabric of the universe. So what are you doing? Why are you involved? Having the certainty of that, that you are seen, that you were taken care of, that you are being provided for. There is mana from heaven. That's what you're saying.
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Craig Siegel
It's mind blowing. And so for Example, it's funny because before we start, I was like, should I blur my screen or just keep the background open? And then I forgot about it. I left the background open. And for anyone that can see this right now, there's a couple.
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Kathy Heller
I always love it. I always amazed that this is what you chose to sit. And we get to be watching this dance. It's amazing.
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Craig Siegel
So there's birds right there on the window still in my apartment, New York City. So everyone knows, if I were to make a sound or go knock on the door, what would the birds do? Fly away. So think about the light, all the blessings and miraculous that we want. When we go into a situation with a lack of certainty. If I were to knock and the birds would fly away, that's exactly what the light would do. It would be out of your reach. So we have to replace doubt with certainty that we are connected. Creator has a plan, and then the light is with us. And so by being certain in the unknown, the amazing most divine right path will reveal itself. But when we lack certainty, when we're not sure, when we have competing desires, just like those birds that fly away, in an instant, the light will fly away. And so how do we stay plugged into the miraculous being certain?
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Kathy Heller
It's the hardest lesson. And once you get it, it makes life the easiest. It's a mind blower. Okay, so now you have this amazing way in which you could literally sit with someone, probably within the first three minutes, you've changed their life. I know you've already done it. For so many people listening right now, what does it mean that at any moment we can reinvent our life? And there are so many people when you say, is there a desire that you've still yet to fulfill? Is there something that is a goal that the hands go up, right? And they don't know how to access the reality of truly making it made manifest. And it feels as though like it's too late or I'm not enough or I don't see the evidence. So I'm just going to keep reliving whatever the past looks like. I'm going to relive that again and again. What does it mean that you, you created this reinvention formula, this kind of roadmap? How does somebody actually apply that to their life?
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Craig Siegel
So I want to ask you listeners right now, if your hands are accessible, raise your hand as you're listening. Are many of you building something right now? Okay. Are many of you feel like you're on the cusp of another chapter and how many of you have momentum, but also a little bit of friction? So I imagine most people are raising their hands right now, but yet somehow we still keep repeating similar results. Right. So it could be the same program in different packaging. Right. Because we're not taking that time to question the origin. And so first things first is to elevate our level of awareness, to realize that there is infinite. And most of us can't really comprehend how infinite the infinite really is. Right. So you said it better than I did. But the universe doesn't have a budget or everything that you want is already in escrow. Hard stop. It's all out there. So why am I not receiving it? Why am I not available for it? That's an amazing question, by the way, if you're even just asking yourself that right now. Now you're getting curious and you're on the cusp of a potential entire new trajectory for your life if you're just acknowledging that it's all out there. So how do you be more of a channel, a conduit for it? How can you share it and express it in the world and receive it? That's an amazing start.
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Kathy Heller
Sure.
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Craig Siegel
And we could even just stop there. People can begin to get curious and ask questions. But just to go a little bit deeper, beginning to understand that whatever is happening in your movie is the result of the vibration that you're offering of the connection that you're offering the world. Right. So is it possible that by understanding that if we want to go higher, we have to go deeper and just changing the way that we're thinking about the world or our situation can change what we're available for in an instant? Yes, it is true. Right. So in Kabbalah, they say that consciousness is primary. Just right now let's remove the mask, remove victim consciousness. Just taking responsibility right now for where we are now we can get really interested in what we're actually aligned to, what we like, what we're good at. What are those things that light us up that we could do all day that you have to actually set an alarm to stop doing, because. And then from there we figure out ways to bring that into the world and monetize the hell out of it. That's really the way ticket is to absolutely love what you do, have it, be impactful and be able to create a lot of prosperity from that. So you could do even more things. But just beginning to question your current situation is an amazing start, because then we begin to create a ripple in the foundation of what we thought was A reality. And so everyone, right now, I would just say practically, let's start right this moment, let's start being reasonable. Let's stop being, quote, unquote, realistic. It's just a waste of time. It's, like, depressing. Let's consider participating in a different reality, one that has endless, one that there is no limitation. And then start thinking, what would it take to be a match for that reality? And then obviously, you know, we could spend another five hours going deeper on next steps. But I think even just having people take a moment to consider that can open up entirely new trajectory.
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Kathy Heller
It's so good. I love listening to you talk. I could listen to you all day. And I feel like I'm getting, I don't know, the best spa day of my life. Everything's like, caliber. It's such an enhancer. You said earlier. And I have a perfume from Dolce and Gabbana, and they have a bunch of really beautiful ones. And I remember choosing very deliberately, they have one called Desire. So I'm like, I'm definitely getting that one, right? Because in Kabbalah, we know, like, if something's going on with a person, we just pray for their desire, right? The word in Hebrew is roth zone. We're like, I want to pray that that person has a bigger desire, right? And you said earlier, and then you just said it sort of now in such a cute and funny way, like, why are you being so reasonable? So depressing, right? Like, your problem isn't your lack in terms of. It's that you don't have a big enough desire. Meaning, like, if everything is here and you have within you, you're a masterpiece, a piece of the master, as Rabbi Aaron would say, why is your desire so small? Like, why don't you have a bigger, amazing, audacious desire? And at the same time, I think what's confusing for people is that we can't create from lack. So how do you make it make sense that we get to have.
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Craig Siegel
We.
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Kathy Heller
We are mandated to have. We are praying to have the biggest possible desire and yet not walk around feeling the lack of that desire, right? So what. I mean, I get this question a lot, so I kind of know my rant on this, but I'm curious, what do you say to somebody if they want to create from these big desires, then they're focusing on the lack of not having it fulfilled.
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Craig Siegel
So something really big that I've been so interested in over the last couple months, and it's really been a game changer for me is this Idea of showing up, wholeness versus lack, Right, Right. So it's funny because my teacher always says to me, like, if something didn't happen, or I was in the pursuit of something amazing, I felt a little short. Oh, you didn't have the vessel for it. And it's a joke, but it's also not because it's an opportunity for me to grow. And in Kamala, we. The vessel is our desire is basically what he's saying, right? So you didn't have the desire for it. So that's amazing, because as much as when he says that, it stings, it's such an opportunity for transformation, Right? And so you nailed it. We say that we want all these things, but we're chasing it from a place of the fear of not having it. Right? And so the idea is to realize that we're already whole, we're already good. And the whole idea is to desire everything yet need nothing, right? So when we need something, when there's a lack of not having it, it's tied to that ego consciousness. And it will always be a little bit out of our reach, or even if we do have our hands on it, it'll slip through the cracks. And it's like, you ever meet someone, you. You just nailed it earlier in the conversation. Like, the coolest thing about someone is their vibe, right? Is their energy when they walk in. It's the most attractive thing, right? So isn't it true that. And I'm sure everyone here has experienced that at least once and hopefully every day when you're like that, isn't it so effortless? Like, if you're single, like, people are just attracted to you, or you're striking up conversations with people at the grocery and the elevator, and they're just so, so sexy and attractive about someone being so comfortable in their own skin because they come across as lacking nothing. That's the idea. That's the vibe. And when we can get to a place, when we're operating from that, more often than not, then we can actually receive our greatest desires. And the best part, and I'll land the plane with this, is if you're not experiencing that, it's unbelievable feedback that there is some sort of crack in there, whether it's lack or some sort of fear or judgment, whatever it is. And now the real work begins. Because that's like a magnifying glass. That's the curriculum. That's the thing we want to transform.
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Kathy Heller
Oh, my God. It's so good. I can't believe it. I feel like, how do you feel about you? It feels like five minutes. And I want this conversation to be five more hours long. You know, I always say our greatest feeling of fulfillment is emulating God being like the light of the Creator. And when God creates, and God created the world and all the things, it wasn't from lack, it was from overflow, right? And so we don't walk in the room because we need something, we walk in the room to give something. And so when you already expand the consciousness and you expand the vessel, then you are whole. And now of course, you're going to 3D print the whatever it is that you could expand yourself to see and perceive and become aware of because the energetic is a match to it. That's it. So it's like as you fill up, you know, we talk about now in Aquarius and Shvat, like it's the rising of the SAP before. You see the trees in the spring. We're celebrating them now, right? Because what's happening is underneath the surface, they're all red. The. The fruit is a fait accompli because the SAP in the winter is already rising. You might not see it with your eyes, but it will bear the fruit because it's already in the consciousness of it. It's in the DNA, right? You and I are the 3D printout of DNA. That DNA was already it. It was done, right? How tall you were going to be, what your eye color was going to be, it's already done. So it's not printing you from lack, it's printing you from the energetic code of the wholeness. That's already done, right? And so that's, that's where you keep going back to. It's the identity, it's the vessel. It's how much capacity are you already, how much energy is already moving through you, right? Because then it's just being printed out there.
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Craig Siegel
Amazing. I just want to say one more thing about you because we all going through our own things, right? We all have our own challenges, obstacles. The way that you show up specifically lately, because I've noticed the shift. It's such a shining example of how not to abandon self. And it's so empowering and so attractive and it's so encouraging for anybody to really not be scared, to really be fully connected all in on you and totally aligned. And it's amazing and it takes courage. So I wanted to acknowledge on my
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Kathy Heller
heart, you're so loving and so lovable, and I so receive that. And. And as you and I both know, because we've been you know, studying the same wisdom is we. We don't do any of it for the self alone. Right. Because all that we want to receive is on behalf of the oneness that is, which is all of us. And so when one beautiful thing in the garden is pollinating, we all get to receive from that. It helps the whole ecosystem. And so thank you for saying that. I feel that from you, like, you give me energy. Just you being you, fully thriving, showing up, enjoying your relationship, enjoying your marathons, like, getting more events going. It's like I'm. I'm lit for. From your light. So, yes. And oh, my gosh, I have to have you back again because it's like this conversation needs to keep going and going.
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Craig Siegel
Well, we're having another one on my show any day now, Maybe next week.
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Kathy Heller
Amazing.
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Craig Siegel
But I can't wait.
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Kathy Heller
Can you leave us with what is one thing that when people finish listening to this, they probably should go back and listen again. But other than that, what's one thing that you would recommend that would make today so good
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Craig Siegel
for anybody listening that felt some type of way, maybe was hopefully triggered, and that's it. Why would you hope I was triggered? Because I believe being triggered with love is the most amazing way to level up, to consider what else might be possible. Right. And so all the things that Kathy and I spoke about today and one of the amazing things about the wisdom of Kabbalah Kathy and I both study is we're not looking for incremental progress. Y. That's kind of boring. We're looking for quantum leaps. Right. To grow so much, and it's so beautiful. And to transform. That's what we talked about earlier, expediting our process. And that can begin for everybody listening today. If you're open to seeing things a little bit differently, if you're just curious on some of the stuff that we've been speaking about today, and you have the desire and the willingness to just try shifting. If you take nothing else, take certainty. Where can I be more certain in my life? And don't take our word for it. Just test it out. Your life could change instantly. An entirely new trajectory. A180. So many more blessings, miracles, just a whole different reality. So I want to encourage everybody, this is what would make today better. If you guys are open to just trying out some of the tools that we spoke about today, you could experience an entirely new, more enriching reality today.
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Kathy Heller
So good.
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Where can everybody follow you and find you and listen to you and just be so in your world? Because it's such an upgrade.
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Craig Siegel
Yeah. Thank you for saying that, for asking. So not hard to find anywhere you listen to podcast the CLS experience anywhere you buy books and reinvention formula. Our website cultivate Lessing symphony.com and if you enjoy today, if it spoke to you, if you like free inspirational pieces of wisdom like this throughout the week, you could join our free texting community. Just text 917-634-3796 and text the name Kathy so that I know that you heard here and I love to connect.
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Kathy Heller
Oh my God, I love you. You're the best. You're so. You're just so bright and such a light and it's just so fun to just be with you. It's like, it's just like Candyland. It's the best. Thank you so much for this, this episode. I. I just loved it so much.
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Craig Siegel
Thank you for all that you do. I love our relationship. I love our connection and much more to come.
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Kathy Heller
All right, well, Craig is amazing. Here are some of the takeaways. Number one. Take the time to get still and get clear on the origin of your choices. Make sure that it's all in alignment with who you want to become and who you're meant to become. Number two, when we can channel the endless energy, we become limitless. Number three, as long as you create the vessel for your desire, it has to be fulfilled. Number four, One of the most amazing tools is certainty. Consciousness. By being certain in the unknown, the most amazing divine path will reveal itself. We stay plugged into the miraculous by being certain. Number five, Whatever is happening in the movie of your life is a result of the vibration and the connection that you're offering the world. Number six, let's stop being reasonable. Let's stop being realistic. Let's consider participating in a different reality, one that is endless, one where there is no limitation. And then start thinking, what would it take to be a match for that reality today? Even just considering that we can open up to that is an entire new trajectory of our life. Number seven, we're all already whole. We're already good. The whole idea is to desire everything yet need nothing. When we're operating from that place, that's when we can actually receive our greatest desires. Thank you so much for listening. I just never take it for granted that you're here. I love you. I'm so happy that the show is providing you that lantern to see your soul's path and to feel reminded of the love and the truth and the wisdom that lives within you and wants to pour through you. We have so many amazing episodes on the way, so follow along on Apple Podcasts or Spotify or wherever you're listening. And if this episode has resonated with you or any episode resonates with you, please leave us a review. Here's one that we got last week from Kimberly. She said, my journey with energy started a year ago and I have come so far, but I recently found myself stuck asking how to stay abundant despite fight a low bank balance. Then the universe delivered a wink. I saw Kathy's post using that exact word, a word I use constantly but never hear from others. In this way, it felt like a direct message from God. My wink. That was the word wink. I dove into her podcast immediately, finding the answer to my specific question waiting for me within the first episode in the title and description. I listened and something clicked. That night I dreamed I was vibrating. When I asked God for a sign the next morning to confirm my dream of reaching a higher vibration, that's when my friend brought up my wink catchphrase out of nowhere, telling me how she was using it with friends this past weekend and had to explain to them how I use it because it's such a Kim thing. Quote my jaw was on the floor. Thank you Kathy for helping bridge the gap and getting me to a higher vibration. Kimberly, I love this so much. What a cool reflection. Thank you so much for sharing this. Reading these reviews. It's such a highlight of my day. So if you haven't done so yet, please leave us a review. And finally, one more thing. On March 17th I am doing a master class about the spiritual energy of breakthroughs and Freedom because we are about to enter the month of Aries and this is such a powerful time for us to break free. If you want to be a part of this class, it'll be@kathy heller.com energy. You can hop on in. I love you so much. I think that we are about to continue to feel as though the blessings are coming in at a stronger, more rapid rate because the consciousness is rising. I'm so proud of this community. I'm so grateful that we're creating this together and I would love to see you in this workshop. Go to kathyheller.com energy and you will be a part of this masterclass on how how to leverage the energy of Aries. And we'll be doing this next week, March 17th. I love you so much and I'll talk to you soon.